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Open mike 05/04/2011

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  1. Jenny 1

    As Marty G points out, in his post here, the government is determined to recklessly promote and expand the fossil fuel industry in this country with little mandate for doing so. (except from the fossil fuel industry and other polluters)

    Other New Zealanders are doing their best to thwart this dictatorial and undemocratic imposition by big business and their political supporters in government. 

    Dear jenny,

    The flotilla opposing deep sea oil drilling arrived at the East Cape on the weekend to a rousing welcome.
    Local iwi te Whānau ā Apanui represented by 600 people welcomed skippers, crew and activists from the flotilla at the spectacular Whangaparāoa Bay.
    It was an inspiring experience on a perfect East Coast day.
    We were all reminded of what a beautiful part of the country this is, and how devastating an oil spill in this area would be.
    It was clear how strongly the people of te Whānau ā Apanui felt about the Government’s decision to allow deep sea oil exploration off their unspoiled coast.
    Iwi elders spoke movingly of the sea being their ancestral “food cupboard” for hundreds of years and to this day. Apanui’s nationally acclaimed kapa haka group gave a stirring performance.
    The flotilla skippers and Greenpeace activists present were left in no doubt as to what was at stake – the right of future generations to an environment which can still sustain them.
    We were all united and determined in our certainty that we must do everything we can to stop deep sea oil drilling in New Zealand waters.
    The Vega’s Daniel Mares, and other skippers aboard the flotilla resolved with the iwi to sail out and meet the seismic testing vessel in the protest tradition of “bearing witness” used in the Nuclear Free Pacific campaign.
    They know they are not alone. Your support, and the support of people all around New Zealand is carried with them and will be critical to our success.
    So thank you for standing with us. I will update you soon on the next steps.


     

    Steve Abel
    Climate Campaigner
    Greenpeace Aotearoa New Zealand

     

    • chris73 1.1

      How much fuel was used by the flotilla?

      • todd 1.1.1

        There are a few inflatables but the ships are sailboats, so not all that much. How much pollution did your computer make when manufactured? Did you know that you use up oxygen when you breath. You should really stop doing that.

    • ianmac 1.2

      Jenny. I saw a very good speaker on Native Affairs last night. A young woman from the East Coast spoke passionately about Petrobras and was followed by an interview with Acting Minister Parata. (Sp?)
      Native Affairs does replay but I can’t find when.

  2. PeteG 2

    The Herald says: Better a levy than a debt for rebuilding (Christchurch)

    A UMR survey taken for the Green Party has found that 40 per cent of respondents would prefer to meet the cost with a temporary tax rather than big cuts to other public expenses (29 per cent) or more borrowing (22 per cent).

    This is a stupidly simplistic (or dishonest) way of looking at it, it doesn’t have to be either/or. Why not a mix of all three? There will be some level of borrowing regardless of other choices. It’s a matter of trying to get the best balance.

    The Greens suggest “1.5 per cent on annual income above $48,000 and 3 per cent above $70,000.” What if a chunk of the 40% supporting a temporary tax earn below $48k? It looks like the Greens are manipulating a survey to promote their own opinion.
     

    • RobC 2.1

      Good Morning PeteG. Was looking forward to your daily appearance with breathless anticipation and you do not disappoint, although only 2 questions in your post today.

      “Why not a mix of all three?” Indeed. If, as you imply, the Greens are being stupidly simplistic (or dishonest), then you must agree the Govt are similarly being stupidly simplistic (or dishonest) by completely ruling out any tax/levy in their solution to pay for the Earthquake.

      Your second Q “What if …” is your classic hypothetical, unanswerable, pissing-in-the-wind Q that you offer up on a sadly all too regular basis. It is almost certain the survey didn’t have a question that asked respondents what their income level was, so keep pissing away.

      Although, given that “preference for the levy is strongest in Christchurch with 49 per cent of residents in favour of a levy, and weakest in Auckland at 34 per cent” (from a separate article) and many in ChCh don’t have jobs you might be onto something.

      Finally, Greens manipulating a survey? I suggest your accusation crosses the line. The Greens commissioned a survey from a reputable market research company. I respectfully suggest you withdraw that comment. Or, next time Curia do some market research for National you make a similar accusation on Kiwiblog.

      Oh, and P.S. – the article you link to was an editorial that just happened to use the poll results as evidence for an argument the editor was making. You do know the difference between an editorial and press release, don’t you?

      • PeteG 2.1.1

        Good morning RobC. I was expecting your daily condescension.
         
        I agree that the Government is being stupidly simplistic ruling out a tax/levy, as William says below, it’s like an ideological straightjacket.
         
        All political parties (and other organisations) manipulate surveys – by the questions they ask, and by the way they mold the results to suit their own purposes.  I don’t think the Greens are any different here. Yes, I was aware it was an editorial, that happened to detail the survey results and the resulting Green proposal.
         
        The last time DPF posted on a survey done by Curia (albeit not for National)  I queried the narrowness of the questioning – but the surveyors are doing what their clients want.  I specifically asked for confirmation of the limits of the question.

        • RobC 2.1.1.1

          Cheers for the reply and actually, I’m going to agree with you that all political parties are, to varying degrees, simplistic, dishonest and manipulative, leave it there and go and do some work. Have a good day.

        • Pascal's bookie 2.1.1.2

          The Greens suggest “1.5 per cent on annual income above $48,000 and 3 per cent above $70,000.” What if a chunk of the 40% supporting a temporary tax earn below $48k? It looks like the Greens are manipulating a survey to promote their own opinion.

          If there wasn’t a chunk of the sample earning under 48k then the sample would obviously be biased. The poll is trying to work out what the electorate thinks. Removing groups from the sample would be legitimate, how? Do the opinions of people earning less than 48K not count? Why not, don’t they get a vote? Should they not?

          • PeteG 2.1.1.2.1

            The survey didn’t find that 40% of the electorate thought that only higher earners should contribute to the levy, the Greens seem to be deciding that part for themselves.
             
            As I hear often enough that the rich avoid paying any tax they can wheedle their way out of I presume they must all be absent from the 40% – so it must be more moderate earners that support the levy.

            • Pascal's bookie 2.1.1.2.1.1

              The survey didn’t find that 40% of the electorate thought that only higher earners should contribute to the levy, the Greens seem to be deciding that part for themselves.

              http://www.greens.org.nz/sites/default/files/poll_results_for_chch_earthquake_recovery_levy.pdf

              Looks like they specifically asked about their proposal.

            • Pascal's bookie 2.1.1.2.1.2

              “The survey didn’t find that 40% of the electorate thought that only higher earners should contribute to the levy, the Greens seem to be deciding that part for themselves.”

              Looks to me like that is what the survey found. You seem to be making acusations of bad faith based on nothing much at all.

              http://www.greens.org.nz/sites/default/files/poll_results_for_chch_earthquake_recovery_levy.pdf

              (sorry if this duplicates, previous comment seems to have been eaten.

            • felix 2.1.1.2.1.3

              As I hear often enough that the rich avoid paying any tax they can wheedle their way out of I presume they must all be absent from the 40% – so it must be more moderate earners that support the levy.
               

              If the levy were the most tax intensive option then you’d have a point.
               
              But seeing as borrowing the same amount offshore necessarily costs far more – which all has to be paid for by taxes of one sort or another – you’ve actually argued (again) the exact opposite of what you intended.
               
              Maybe it’s time you took a wee break. You’re both really sucking at this.

        • mickysavage 2.1.1.3

          PeteG
          I agree that the Government is being stupidly simplistic ruling out a tax/levy
          Good on you PeteG.  Though about changing your vote yet?  It is a hell of an ideological straightjacket that is going to cause huge hardship to many kiwis.
           

          • PeteG 2.1.1.3.1

            I’m always thinking about how I might vote. I won’t decide until November.
             
            It’s as bad an ideological straightjacket as “we mustn’t reduce any spending in the public service”.

            • McFlock 2.1.1.3.1.1

              BTW Pete, are you paid by the post or is The Standard nested in a number of other duties in your job description?
               
              Whoops, I forgot – you’re a political undecided who is obsessively interested in politics but still can’t tell if he’s more likely to vote Nat, ACT or Libertarianz.

              • PeteG

                No, I’m paid by the stupid response. Thanks.

                • McFlock

                  Well, stupidity does seem to be the means of exchange in NACTland…

                • Pascal's bookie

                  Read them UMR/Green Party poll results yet?

                  Re:

                  “The survey didn’t find that 40% of the electorate thought that only higher earners should contribute to the levy, the Greens seem to be deciding that part for themselves.”





    • The Voice of Reason 2.2

      Pete, I warned you yesterday about posting in the morning before you’ve had enough coffee. Ok, it’s fun for the rest of us, but really, dude, you shouldn’t demean yourself in this way. Still, great to see that you are a supporter of MMP.

      • PeteG 2.2.1

        I don’t drink coffee. You could try a positive contribution to the blog yourself.
         
        I support MMP as the best of the options on offer – I think our version of MMP could be improved, but no matter what system we have it’s still up to the attitudes of parties and voters, and the quality of the available candidates (which I think is our biggest problem).

    • William Joyce 2.3

      National would need to be backed into a corner, with no way out, before they will ever agree to a levy. Even then I would not hold out hope.
      You have to understand who you’re dealing with – these people are so stuck in a set way of thinking. They only have a one-trick pony in their little show. That’s it. Nothing else.
      When your only economic plan (and the only thing you understand) is tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts, then to introduce a new tax says you have got it wrong and that sometimes taxes are useful.

  3. Bored 3

    Just read Kunstler this morning and found a line that resonated with yesterdays column on “Kiwis want buses,not holiday highways”. JK is always good on getting at the root of the issue and he would probably agree that Kiwis really want cars which is why we are in general in energy denial. From this mornings column, enjoy…
    The reason for this obvious idiocy is that it’s all about the cars. That’s all we care about in the USA, the cars. We can’t get over the cars. We can’t talk about anything except how we’ll find magical new ways to run all the cars. This is a very tragic sort of stupidity and if we don’t change our thinking about it, from the highest level on down, history is going to treat us very cruelly.

  4. Jim Nald 4

    $1.2b bailout blowout Bill –
     
    Looking for support for a proposal I am considering about forming a group to demand the new Government on 27 Nov to pass a law seeking to:
     
    1. Seize Bill’s and all his family’s assets, and nationalise them
     
    2. Revoke Bill English’s passport so that he cannot leave the country
     
    3. Put him in a cangue for the rest of his life and he can wander up and down the country hoping some of us might help him eat or drink.

      • Jim Nald 4.1.1

        Heh!  Well, getting there but still some way to go – Dipton needs to have the weight and size of that cangue doubled. For consistency. And greed.
        And yes, shonky and his mates who have played the financial system so hot till it melt down need to be put into cangues as well.

    • Deadly_NZ 4.2

      Why just Bill????  You forgot his boss Ol’ Shonkey

  5. I thought I’ give a few links about the developments at the Fukushima plant seeing as our MSM has al but stopped covering the catastrophic events at the plant.

    First of all it appears that the workers (funny how the management has declined the opportunity to lead by example) are attempting to stem a bloody great big leak of radioactive water to the Pacific with paper clippings, sawdust and diaper like materials.

    Second I’d like to introduce you to a man called Arnold Gunderson. He is a former Nuclear industry exec and was an expert witness for the three mile Island investigation.

    He releases short video’s on his website (Which is understandably totally overrun so I link to the video’s on Youtube) Fairwinds ass. with his analysis of the available video and photo material.
    So far his conclusions are that spent fuel rods (i.e. entire pools full of them and the pools or absent leaking so without water to cool and shield them)have been and still are exposed to the air, there are intermittent uncontrolled (No human intervention) chain reactions taking place and Plutonium is being released into the atmosphere (You’ll be happy to know that Plutonium is named after the god of hell and only one pound of it freed up into the atmosphere into nano particles will kill everyone on earth and will do so the next oh, the 23.000 years or so and yes, Lanthanide I know the material is so heavy it won’t travel far but that doesn’t stop this shit from getting into our ecosystems doesn’t it)

    He is also the man who coined the phrase: This could become Chernobyl on steroids.

    And while all this is happening you’ll be relieved to know that the health and safety experts have been recalculating the danger of exposure to radiation and found that just in time they made a mistake all those years ago and that in fat we can handle much more radiation than was previously thought safe in our food, milk and drinking water.

    I feel better already don’t you?

    (Again awesome interface Iprent, thanks. The only thing missing is a preview option so you can check your links etc. Also it doesn’t seem to honour inserted paragraphs)
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

  6. William Joyce 6

    Congrats to David Cunliffe on Morning Report. Emphatic, forceful and sounded suitably pissed off.
    I do think he could have focused, not on selling the SCF loan book, but on the fact that John & Bill knew from day one SCF was in trouble and, not just once, but repeatedly (about 4x) signed it into the guarantee scheme – knowing/suspecting that this was giving licence to profiteers from making a killing with other people’s money.
    Labour needs to come out fighting and delivering punch after punch. It’s not as though there is a lack of material.

    • vto 6.1

      Shame I missed it. It would seem that the issue of SCF’s participation in the guarantee is one with the potential of major scandal exposure. Why would Labour not chase this hard? Does it make people’s eyes glaze over? Is everyone in labour too busy talking about talking? Is everyone in labour too busy planning for the planned post-election blood-letting outlined by Trotter this morning? Has everyone in labour simply given up, also as Trotter outlines?

      I mean, $300million, is almost $100 for every manwoman and child in NZ. How much money does that mean your household has just paid out to these greedy SCF investors who expect greater return without the risk?

      No wonder black markets do so well…

        • marty mars 6.1.1.1

          Jeepers I just heard key say that if labour want a snap election – let’s go for it.

          Old kingkey is getting quite cocky. I hope labour don’t live to regret the ‘resign’ challenge – it’s an escalation in rhetoric that is high stakes at this stage of the game.

          • Samuel Hill 6.1.1.1.1

            Thats one way to get rid of Goff.

            • marty mars 6.1.1.1.1.1

              The more I think about it the more a snap election makes sense for the gnats – it stops the political erosion they are already experiencing – shit key has been booed already. It bolsters the maori party and attempts to cut the legs off Hone’s new left Maori Party.

              As I’ve worded it

              “key is the man, he tells himself that, his advisers tell him, the media tells him and many voters tell him that HE IS THE MAN. The man can trust his instincts and the man can make the call – it’s what he does, it’s what the man does.”

              As an aside – the new interface is awesome lprent.

              • Colonial Viper

                The LAB answer to a snap election could be:

                Hold English responsible for his incompetence first. Sack him, effective immediately. Commit to not giving him any other Cabinet level posts. Order a full investigation into what has happened and where the money has gone.

                Then once English has been held to account for his epic fail to the tax payer, bring on the snap election

                If Key refuses to sack English before the snap election, it becomes a referendum on the $1.2B SCF loss, it becomes a referendum on rebuilding Christchurch infastructure, it becomes referendum on building Auckland infrastructure.

                Very high risk strategy 🙂

          • Jim Nald 6.1.1.1.2

            aah .. John Cockey 🙂
            well, when you have a huge picture book after all those photo ops, you can afford to be

            • ianmac 6.1.1.1.2.1

              John Key said later that he couldn’t have a snap election because the date had already been announced.

              • Colonial Viper

                Ignore Key’s pull back and agree to the snap election on the condition that English pays the price first.
                When Key says that he wasn’t being serious – stare him down and say: our democracy is not something to be played with like a joke.

                • Pascal's bookie

                  It’s a hail mary pass , so if you are going to throw it, you have to throw it hard and clean.

                  The point would be to make Key look bad/weak/chicken/unserious right? So don’t attach any strings that give him an opt out clause.

                  When Key says he wasn’t being serious, just point, laugh at him and say he’s just afraid that the electorate hasn’t forgotten about the assett sales policy yet.  When he says that you are being ridiculous given the polls, then ask him, again, why he chickened out of his offer of a snap election. It’s because he needs a world cup sized distraction between his Billy club budget and the polling booth.

    • higherstandard 6.2

      It appears that several people should be in jail for outright fraud and that a number of the Hubbarb company associates and management should have the assets seized and sold off under the proceeds of crime legislation.

      “The taxpayers’ bill for the South Canterbury Finance failure rose by a further $300 million to $1.2 billion yesterday as a result of loans to company insiders going sour”

      Mr Key emphasised the shortfall in recoveries related to South Canterbury’s loans to “related party” borrowers. That includes the company’s management as well as friends and associates of Mr Hubbard.

      South Canterbury’s Government-appointed receiver Kerryn Downey said the new losses were calculated by Treasury from information he provided relating to 30 loans, some of which were already under investigation by the SFO.
      “Some of these parties I presume have been friends of Hubbard and so forth and likely had difficulty raising financing from elsewhere, but that’s guesswork on my part,” he told Radio New Zealand.

      http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=10717139

      • vto 6.2.1

        ““Some of these parties I presume have been friends of Hubbard and so forth and likely had difficulty raising financing from elsewhere, but that’s guesswork on my part,” he told Radio New Zealand.”

        That is only described as guesswork to cover his arse. For the receiver to say that at this time means it is 100% true. It was well known.

        You are right HS in that there has been gross breach of obligations. These people need to stand and answer. And/or be pursued.

        This is of course additional to the issue of Key letting SCF into the guarantee scheme when he knew it was going broke from the day he became PM.

        • William Joyce 6.2.1.1

          “This is of course additional to the issue of Key letting SCF into the guarantee scheme when he knew it was going broke from the day he became PM.”
          Such an own goal admission by Key – a crack in the Smile and Wave facade that the left need to bust open.
          The “facade” can obviously be rattled when the people scream back at him and call him names.
          Perhaps he needs to be faced with more pissed off NZdrs?

          • Bored 6.2.1.1.1

            VTO / William J….we need to ask the question , “Why are we surprised?” The whole finance industry has we the taxpayer by the balls and we act all outraged but keep paying. From the Automaticearth today consider this synopsis of the global finance industry and ask, “Whats so different here”?
            In fact, every single natural and/or man-made crisis in the last three years (see sub-prime housing meltdown, Haiti EQ, Pakistan floods, Russian drought, European sovereign debt crisis, MENA revolutions, Japanese EQ/flood/nuclear meltdown) has been used as justification for further taxpayer subsidies to the financial industry. Governments and private individuals simply do not have enough funds for relief efforts, so they must finance a large majority of them……

            People are dying and something must be done, but, given the current monetary paradigm, governments can only take action through the issuance of more debt and the payment of more interest to private banking cartels. It is no wonder, then, that certain Wall Street executives are earning millions in salaries and bonuses while the rest of the world quickly crumbles into little bits and pieces.

            The “plan” was not to blindly chase risky investments until everything crashes and everyone goes broke, but to make large sums of money while also gutting the productive economy and deliberately plunging the entire world into a state of hopeless dependency.

            If that is really a recipe for long-term gain, then I must take my hat off to the financial masters of our world. That would mean they have managed to subjugate billions of productive workers around the world and steal what little wealth these workers have left, without generating any real threats to their own wealth or power in the process.

            The above is a giant J’accuse. There is enough ammo there for Cunliffe to give the banker Key nightmares, except it wont. Finance and their cronies will just ignore our outrage and continue to take until the whole edifice collapses. Human nature?

            • William Joyce 6.2.1.1.1.1

              You’re right we shouldn’t be surprised. Your quote points to the machinations of those tricksy little finance hobbites.
              Paul Krugman in the NYTimes did an op-ed on the attack on Elizabeth Warren (who is Obama’s go-to on finance reform). He points out how the right, instead of acknowledging the obvious and taking the blame……

              “Let me expand on that for a moment. When the 2008 financial crisis struck, many observers — myself included — thought that it would force opponents of financial regulation to rethink their position. After all, conservatives hailed the debt boom of the Bush years as a triumph of free-market finance right up to the moment it turned into a disastrous bust.
              But we underestimated the speed and determination with which opponents of regulation would rewrite history. Almost instantly, that free-market boom was retroactively reinterpreted; it became a disaster brought on by, you guessed it, excessive government intervention.”

              • Bored

                Tricksy might easily be replaced by nasty….reminds me of the extremist RWNJs who obsessively say “if only we had a truly free market it would all be OK…we have to do it harder and we will get a different result”. They are the true inheritors of that other rationalist creed, Stalinist socialism where you created paradise on earth by shooting more and more people on the premise that you could not make an omelet without cracking eggs. Meanwhile the criminals, whether apparatchiks or bankers get fat.

            • vto 6.2.1.1.1.2

              The world of money manufacture is certainly the castle that needs storming.

              My understanding is not great at this point, but I have always wondered where the interest paid on loans from banks goes to.. Pay say $10,000 per year to a bank in interest for a loan – where does that $10,000 end up eventually?

              I have asked this question many times over the years and usually I get blank stares, even from my bank manager! I would have thought the answer is simple?

              • Bored

                I have a distinct feeling that the finance industry is not interested in repayment, what they want is constant boondage for debtors in which they either take ownership by foreclosure, or manage the serfs to their benefit. It is a form of feudalism.

                • freedom

                  i beleive Economic Fascism is more accurate a handle

                  A version of economic fascism was in fact adopted in the United States in the 1930s and survives to this day. In the United States these policies were not called “fascism” but “planned capitalism.” The word fascism may no longer be politically acceptable, but its synonym “industrial policy” is as popular as ever.
                   
                  http://www.lewrockwell.com/dilorenzo/dilorenzo85.html

              • Lanthanide

                Basically banks charge you interest because they expect a return on their money. Businesses borrow money, and pay interest on it, because they are taking a risk that they can earn extra profit margin over the cost of their borrowing to make it worth while.

                So the bank loans out $100,000 to a business at 10% interest rate, because they have so much money that they don’t need to get the highest returns out of it and they\’re happy with just making $10k from an office job – they don’t want to get into manufacturing of widgets and marketing them etc. The business takes the money and invests it into their company, and they generate sales of widgits and profits. It turns out from the money they borrowed that they earn 20% return on it, so after paying the 10% interest, they\’re left with 10% profit on the original $100k investment.

                So the bank simply takes the $10k interest as profit. It’s essentially the same as with a mortgage, but in this case your purpose for borrowing the money is not “to make a business investment to sell widgets and profit”, but “to have somewhere to live”. The interest payments you pay to the bank are simply their profit from their business – making loans to people.
                 
                Lynn – it looks like if you fail to enter the captcha properly, when you get the new page saying “copy and paste your comment”, if you fail to do so and press back, then you lose it, whereas with the old commenting system it would save it.

                • vto

                  Hi Lanthanide, I understand that but my question was where does that $10,000 end up eventually?

                  The bank doesnt keep that 10k as profit as it has to pay for the money too. Generally bank margins on loans in NZ are I think about 2%? So, of that $10,000 in annual interest only $2000 is gross profit.

                  Where does the other $8,000 go? Well, of course it depends on where the bank got the money itself. So if it raised it from the Reserve Bank of NZ then the $8,000 goes there. And then where does it go once it reaches the Reserve Bank? That is my question.

                  If the bank got the money from some foreign bank, like some US bank, then the $8,000 goes there. From there then? To the issuers of money in the US? i.e. the rothschilds etc? That is my question.

                  Where is the final resting place of interest.

                  I think the question is simple but the answer quite difficult.

                  • Bored

                    Its a Ponzi scheme, it goes down as far as the fractional banker at the point of credit creation. The only known functioning “trickle down” effect. And they are so big that they are not allowed to fail..they say to governments “you must allow us to create more liquidity by guaranteeing us that you (via the citizens) will pay us to prop up the whole edifice.

                  • Lanthanide

                    Basically you’re asking where the ultimate creation of money comes from.

                    Wikipedia has two articles on it:
                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_creation
                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fractional-reserve_banking
                     
                    After you read the fractional reserve banking article, you’ll probably think that it’s a ponzi scheme. It is.

                    The other related idea is “where does someone get money to pay the interest back”, and that’s through wealth-creation, which is essentially someone spending time, effort and skill (broadly) to create something valuable out of something else. So a potter might take some clay, worth $5, and make it into a ceramic mug, and sell it for $15.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      There are a couple of other things to consider

                      – Almost all the money in circulation in our economy is based on bank credit. It is money created out of thin air by banks, through the process of issuing loans ( = creation of debt). Only a tiny amount of money exists in the form of Government issued notes and coins (think about it – when you take out a $200,000 mortgage you get it in electronic numbers and when you pay the vendor, you transfer over electronic numbers. No notes and coins).

                      – So when a bank gives you a loan, say for $10,000, all it does is electronically add $10,000 to your bank account. And it does not need to have that money on hand, in order to be able to do that (it can go looking for those funds later). It offsets the credit it has given you by noting on its balance sheet that you owe it money.

                      – You start owing interest on the loan principle immediately. In fact, new money has to be found to pay that interest. By the time you fully pay back the $10,000 in principal, you may also have had to pay back say $5000 in interest. $15,000 total.

                      – That extra $5000 has to be produced from somewhere. Yes you guessed it, from money created through more debt. The need to create more and more debt to service the economy with more and more money is one of the primary drivers for requiring “economic growth”.

                      Now if this seems more and more like a ponzi scheme, but you are not yet convinced read this for a true mind frakking
                      http://www.debtdeflation.com/blogs/2009/01/31/therovingcavaliersofcredit/
                       
                       

                • lprent

                  Lynn – it looks like if you fail to enter the captcha properly, when you get the new page saying “copy and paste your comment”, if you fail to do so and press back, then you lose it, whereas with the old commenting system it would save it.

                  Ok. That would figure. The javascript doesn’t push the text into the textbox until it is in posting mode after the submit is pressed. Ummm that could be irreconcilable with tinymce and I suspect with the two other editors I have tested with normal coding. I’ll have to test pushing the text into the textbox with my own js to ensure it gets picked up by the browser history.

                  Alternatives… the captcha gets checked at the server side. I could override the post comment logic to fix that error behavior. Get it to send the textbox back with the sent text. That is a weekend job.

                  The immediate work around would be just to login. Then you lose the captcha.

                  I got distracted by some other work last night. I fixed the other parts of the editor, but didn’t put up because the activity was a bit high and I went to bed before it slowed down. Tonight…

                • Draco T Bastard

                  Basically banks charge you interest because they expect a return on their money.

                  Except it’s not “their money”. They didn’t actually have any when they “loaned” it to you – they merely printed it and so the returns from interest that they get are on something that they never had.

              • MrSmith

                As I understand it VTO The interest is created out of thin air so in other words it doesn’t exist till you start paying it, then this leads to another problem because now you have a shortage of money so there is never enough money to go around. Try this movie for some answers it’s free online http://www.zeitgeistthefilm.com/ there are three movies start with ‘Zeitgeist the movie’.

                • Mr Smith,
                  The main sum is created out of thin air. The interest comes from your hard slog.

                  • MrSmith

                    No Travellerev the interest is created the moment it is due.

                    Now you could pay it ‘the interest’ with interest you just received on money you had in the bank or you could have stolen the money to pay the interest, yes you may have had had to slog for that, I understand your point though.

                    I was only trying to help answer VTO”S question, the fractional reserve monetary system that we have in new zealand is very interesting though, but complicated (just the way they like it) I am still trying to understand it as we speak.

    • William Joyce 6.3

      Just watched Breakfast (which I record so I can to filter out the crap! 2.5 hours of television and such little substance!).
      Brian Gaynor says that the $1.2 billion is only the beginning of the loss to the tax payer.
      Even Bill English said he can’t rule out the prospect that it’s going to get worse.
      Your right vto – this story has got legs – big hairy legs.
      One can only hope that this takes on the dimensions of the Whitlam govt loans scandal.
      ps. Phil showed some balls and his a good chord – NZdrs are sick of people making money, pissing off and leaving the tax payers to pick up the bill – he used the case of property developers and leaky homes; and the case of asset sales, stripped and bought back by the tax payer (AirNZ & Rail).
      NZdrs getting ripped off by white-collars / big-business also has legs as election rhetoric.

      • mickysavage 6.3.1

        Your right vto – this story has got legs – big hairy legs
         
        Agreed entirely.
         
        Miracle worker had some interesting comments and sources that he made the other day.
         
        One rumour that I heard was that one of the major creditors had been buying up debentures at 70c in the dollar from mum and dad investors who had mistakenly thought their investment was threatened and did not understand how the guarantee worked.
         
        Why the guarantee was extended to the purchasers of securities is another issue that needs a really hard look at it.
         
        David Cunliffe is onto something here. 

        • grumpy 6.3.1.1

          Most of these “related party” loans were interest only with the principle only being repaid at the end of the project.  These are very difficult for the receiver to collect.

          We must demand serious asset seizures and criminal charges.  More investigation of the “Torchlight” rort would help.

        • chris73 6.3.1.2

          Yes, hes sounding like a leader of a political party

        • Zaphod Beeblebrox 6.3.1.3

          I’m wondering what to make of the Treasury advice that SCF was in trouble up to a year before the government acted. I guessing English and Key were in the loop- what did they do about it?

          What else has Cunliffe up his sleeve?

          • Jim Nald 6.3.1.3.1

            Slow burn and letting them walk wounded?

            • Colonial Viper 6.3.1.3.1.1

              I reckon that this is the opening act to the big Budget curtains up. If English isn’t feeling the pressure yet, he soon will.

  7. Draco T Bastard 8

    Rogue Capitalism

    Making $56 million in an afternoon out of $230,000 worth of the electricity that was generated to power our homes is wrong, plain and simple.

    The truth of the market is showing itself in our electricity sector and this government wants to put my incentives for such theft in place by selling it off to private profiteers.

  8. Herodotus 9

    More support against asset sales, and that for us Kiwis we had better start preparing for a decrease in living standards. The great times of the 50’s and 60’s are gone. And why even with boom time underthe 5th Lab govt most of us did not fell any wealthier, and those that did can see how fickled and illusionary it was. It was an illusion with mirrows, the better than many others catch on to what happened, will then place pressure for an effective strategy can be devised to min the pain we are feeling and are to feel. Instead of the partisian “our team” and blindly accepting that all was good under their reign… Sorry folks it wasn’t. then we can depa=mand some real action  and move forward…

  9. vto 10

    Pike River Coal has said, on the very first day of the Royal Commission of Inquiry, that it has no money to participate in the Inquiry and so wont be.

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    All of the shareholders, directors and promoters of PRC are pieces of shit.

    This on top of the Dept of Labour’s refusal to hand over documents related to the mine’s operation.

    Farce

    • Pascal's bookie 10.1

      Faaaark.

      reminds me of the winebox enquiry when lawyer for European Pacific said “We may be here for some purposes and not for others”

      • Oleolebiscuitbarrell 10.1.1

        I am pretty sure that was Richard Craddock QC who, coincidentally, died this week.

    • Draco T Bastard 10.2

      Obviously, some people just don’t want the truth to come and so are doing their utmost to prevent it. Obviously, we should be jailing all of them for obstruction of justice.

      • vto 10.2.1

        You pulling my tit mr b? Is that how I come across? Probably.

        Anyways, my point is that the Inquiry is already showing signs of being unable to expose the truth. Wasn’t it Brownlee who said “everything will be n the table”? Well it aint. Two of the main players have stated that they cannot or will not fully participate – one of which is a government department.

        In addition Nic Davidson QC said earlier that there are potential and serious problems with evidence provision by participants if the issue of prosecution vs inquiry is not properly resolved. In other words, if people and organisations at the Inquiry are not immune from prosecution then they will not give their evidence.

        The smells continue..

        • Pascal's bookie 10.2.1.1

          Not how you come across at all v, I was reminded of EP’s lawyer by PRC and DOL. 

          • vto 10.2.1.1.1

            oh I meant the other mr b…

            And yes I don’t see how such things are optional either. It is a Royal Commision of Inquiry – isn’t that about the heaviest type of inquiry around? With substantial powers of enquiry? Power to subpoena and the like?

            I watch with intense interest…

        • Pascal's bookie 10.2.1.2

          And as for this ‘not giving their evidence’ business, I can’t see why it should be optional.

          The Inquiry should be aimed at finding out what happened. If prosecution seems appropriate from those facts, then it’s up to the justice system to determine what mitigating circumstances there are and whether or not people should get their prompt cooperation taken into account. Or otherwise, as the case may be.

          • mickysavage 10.2.1.2.1

            They (the company’s officers) will be forced to take part but rather than have prepared statements will have to be questioned.  This adds quite a bit of time.  This is surprising as I thought they would want to prepare their case to add their spin to things.
             
            There is potentially personal responsibility so the directors would be well advised to have proper registration.
             
            A bit of an insult to the commission really.
             
             

  10. Draco T Bastard 11

    An Exercise in Dishonesty

    Long isn’t alone; this is mainstream thinking among National. And that should concern all of us. When one of our major political parties thinks our system is “too” democratic, that it should have power disproportionate to its share of the vote, and that the electoral system should be changed to ensure this, we are all under threat.

    National have been complaining about MMP since it was first suggested back in the 1980s and now that it’s starting to look like they’ll be out of power more often than under the previous FPP system they’re agitating to bring an undemocratic system electoral system back in.

  11. joe90 12

    More Cryptome images, inside the Fukushima Daiichi plant and a collection of overhead images of other Japanese nuclear plants.

  12. Pascal's bookie 13

    Gettin a bit tired of hearing the old men on NatRad’s porch going on and on and on and on about how it’s all about values don’t you think or maybe it is and the question needs to be asked about values and was it good to just ditch all the values?

    just spit it out will ya.

    What are these values?  They never seem to get around to saying. 

    ‘just a domestic’ (aka ‘a man’s home is his castle’)

    ‘the cops used to sort this out with a clip round the ears’ (and don’t you say nuffin neither coz who are they going to believe you or me, missy).

    ‘she consented at the wedding’ 

    ‘seen and not heard’

    ‘don’t make a fuss’

    ‘do as your fucking told’

  13. Samuel Hill 14

    I am wondering if somebody can provide us with geographic details of where Petrobras have been given clearance from the NZ goverment to do seismic testing. Can someone explain where these potential oil reserves are? Or even just tell us where they are working. Thanks.

    • ianmac 14.1

      Petrobras are not carrying out an expensive survey without the guarantee that should they discover oil, they would have the right to extract it. So for Government saying it only a survey, is at least misleading. If they get positive results it must follow that they will drill. No doubt.

      • MrSmith 14.1.1

        These surveys have been going on for Years on both coasts of the north island.

        When I was crusing around the north island I would run into survey vessels at times and have to alter course, they are usally towing a cable miles long and where griding an area. 

        I think they then sell the info to the oil companies or whoever will buy it.

        • ianmac 14.1.1.1

          “I think they then sell the info to the oil companies or whoever will buy it.”

          But my point stands. Petrobras would not begin unless, after finding oil they would expect drilling to follow. Otherwise why bother exploring?

  14. Mac1 15

    A quote from a letter to the Editor in the Marlborough Express today.
    “I have never been able to figure out why my grocery bill in London is far less than in Blenheim. It’s not just milk ($1 a litre) that is cheaper here.”
    This person’s shopping included Vogel’s bread $2, 400 gms cheese $2.60, 1 kg bananas ($1.50), 500 gms Greek yoghurt ($2), half shoulder of NZ lamb ($8), 400gm mince ($5), 500 gms salad greens ($2), new potatoes ($3 kg), tomatoes $3 kg.
    She concludes by saying that Blenheim is far more expensive than London, and rising, and will return home when the food prices are in line with the rest of the world.
    How can these prices be? Food passes through Blenheim in transit to ChCh and is more expensive in Blenheim supermarkets- said to be as expensive as anywhere in NZ, if not more. Milk is at cheapest $6.60 for four litres. Bread closer to $4, bananas $2.50, salad greens $23. Mince is cheaper at $10 a kg.

  15. Campbell Larsen 16

    Its hardly new, but sometimes it is useful to see how little has changed, and how global our current predicament really is:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_totalitarianism
    http://www.thenation.com/article/inverted-totalitarianism
    Here’s a suggestion: require all political parties to table all of their proposed law/ regulation/ economic changes prior to the election. No surprises.
    Research/ consultation resources could be distributed amongst the differing political factions (according to % of vote) and they could all give themselves fancy working group names and then we could decide who to believe.
    Seem like too much work to prepare in advance for a three year term? Then reduce the term of government – if 90 day trials are appropriate for the rest of us then why not the government?  After all a government that is doing a good job has nothing to fear.
    Vote and trust? Sounds a bit like ‘bend over and spread cheeks to take further ramming’
    The MSM may still be a problem – But has anyone with some programming nous ever considered scripting something which can recognize associations ie ‘National showed courage’ (and other such pap) and run analysis on MSM articles/ headlines? – I think a pattern is clearly apparent – even the use of emotive descriptors  is questionable in my book and we sure do have a lot of that.
    Maybe farming that task out to some journalism students (before they got jobs and become PR professionals) is the way to go – most journalism students are idealistic – at least initially!
    Some suggestions anyway, seems like its about time we demanded better from our elected representatives and a system which permits their abuses and excuses their dishonesty.

    • PeteG 16.1

      I don’t think we’ll see any major changes unless we are lucky enough to strike two real leaders at the same time, both National and Labour leaders getting together, deciding to have a scheduled, fair hard fought election, and then the best of both sides plus the pickings of the small parties getting together and doing the best they can for the country rather than getting bogged down playing petty political games with nearly have of the elected representatives wasdting most of their time.
       
      The $32M looks like an easier bet, must buy a ticket.

      • Campbell Larsen 16.1.1

        PeteG – it seems that you didn’t take the time to read the links – you really should. In particular the parts relating to the disengagement of the voting population due to exactly the kinds of sentiment that you have expressed. Comparing our chances of political reform to winning lotto is not doing anything to counteract this worrying trend.
        You claim that we need two real leaders or change will never occur.  That sounds a bit like you are still trying to push the Goff is weak PR spin – so last week. I would prefer that we had an effective, just and accountable political system and merely competent leaders rather than an ineffective, flawed and secretive political system even if Superman and Wonder Woman were at the helm.
        Suggestions as to how we can improve things. actions that can be taken, that’s the sort of comment that is useful – asserting that things will never change and that we should not bother as a result is exactly the sort of poison that has got us in this sorry state.

  16. Colonial Viper 17

    Bernard Hickey talks about the precarious economic situation that NZ finds itself in. And raises the idea of printing money as an option we should at least talk about. Serious stuff.
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10717168

  17. Samuel Hill 18

    Ummm…. there is no way Labour will win right now. If the election was today, or in 6 weeks time. National will win. The only hope for the left to take power this election would be for a paradigm shift in how people see John Key. They have to despise him like they despised Muldoon. End of story. Just because the people who use this board have a higher understanding of the political battlefield, doesn’t mean that younger, and less educated or open minded people don’t see it as simply John’s happy-go-lucky party/lets give John his turn vs Goff’s gaytime/sensitive approach.

  18. prism 19

    What has happened to real men drinking real scotch whisky?   The chap this morning on Radionz commenting on the brew that was in Scott’s freezer talked about flavours of pears and honeysuckle for goodness sake.  What sort of pantywaists go on in this fashion?
    A joke about the old days gives a good indication of what real men expected from their whisky.   A wife deserted by her whisky drinking husband every night, faced him and said she too was going to have some of this marvellous drink. She took a gulp and fell to the floor groaning “Frank how can you bear that stuff”.  He replied smugly “There now, you thought I was out enjoying myself didn’t you.”

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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Media impartiality
    Sky's economics editor, Ed Conway has posted a Twitter thread responding to a claim that - as far as I can see - Labour never made:
    Are NHS operation cancellations at an all-time high? That's the impression you might have been left with if you read this story from the ...
    1 week ago
  • Finish what’s on your plate
    Murray Cox Do I have to finish my favourite genome? That’s an often-asked question. Geneticists generally strive to produce high-quality genomes that sequence every last gene, making full use of the state-of-the-art technologies coming on stream. Sequencing DNA means determining the order of the four chemical building blocks – called ...
    SciBlogsBy Genomics Aotearoa
    1 week ago
  • Gainful Employment: A Cautionary Tale.
    Transformative Politics: The idea is to turn each recipient into an unwitting accomplice in their own transformation. From interested observer to hyped-up activist, sharing our messages promiscuously with ‘friends’. You’ll be part of an ever-expanding circulatory system, Jennifer, for the ideas that will win us the election.”JENNIFER SKITTERED her chair ...
    1 week ago
  • New Zealand should not fund bigotry
    Two years ago, the Cook Islands government announced that it was planning to join the civilised world and decriminalise consensual homosexual sex between men. Now, they've reversed their position, and decided to criminalise lesbians into the bargain:Two years ago, in a step welcomed by many people including the gay and ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • New Fisk
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • More tyranny in Australia
    The boycott is a fundamental tool of protest. By choosing who we buy from, we can send a message, and hopefully change corporate behaviour. Historically, boycotts have been effective, for example over apartheid in South Africa and Israel, in forcing divestment from Myanmar, and in ending bus segregation in the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Submission for rationality and science against the assaults of pre-modernism and post-modernism
    Jan Rivers spoke at the Abortion Legislation Select Committee in favour of the bill, but in opposition to calls from other submitters to exchange the word ‘woman’ for ‘person’ throughout the bill. Jan is a supporter of the feminist group Speak Up For Women and has recently written an excellent ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • My loyal readership of … Cam girls and Pornbots?
    I checked my traffic stats:I was intrigued by 'monica29' - who was this very dedicated individual?  I clicked on the link, to be greeted with ...Ho, hum.Spreadin' the word, spreadin' the word.  Doesn't matter who hears it, as long as it gets out there. ...
    1 week ago
  • Worth repeating forever
    There have been three polls since the election was announced, and I will shamelessly steal YouGov / UK Polling Report's Anthony Wells' summary of them:Survation – CON 34%, LAB 26%, LDEM 19%, BREX 12%, GRN 1% Ipsos MORI – CON 41%, LAB 24%, LDEM 20%, BREX 7%, GRN 3% YouGov ...
    1 week ago
  • Lutte Ouvriere on the explosion in Chile
    The following article is translated from Lutte Ouvrière, the weekly newspaper of the organisation usually known by the same name in France. When, for the second time this year, Chilean President Piñera announced an increase in the price of Metro tickets from 800 to 830 pesos, students in the high ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Wage theft – I’m fucking over it.
    Today, a worker contacted me asking if she could go to the police over her employer stealing thousands of dollars from her in unpaid wages. The employer also did not pay this worker’s taxes or student loan which amounts to tax fraud. As a workers rights activist, who founded the ...
    PosseBy chloeanneking
    1 week ago
  • On The Rebound.
    Signed, Sealed, Delivered, They're Yours: Is there any person more vulnerable than a jilted lover on the rebound? Or, anything more certain than that the charmer, the predator, the glib spinner of lies and promises will seek such broken people out? Yes, of course, he will love every one of ...
    1 week ago
  • Rabbi urges congregation to vote against Corbyn
    Though Jonathan Romain is a fairly high profile Rabbi, writing in several papers and popping up on TV and the radio, this story doesn't seem to have made it to the Guardian yet, so I'll take the unusual step of linking the Stephen Pollard edited Jewish Chronicle:Rabbi Dr Jonathan Romain ...
    2 weeks ago
  • My absurdly optimistic prediction
    There's an election afoot, and that is when noted opinion formers such as myself get to make wild fools of ourselves by pretending we have the faintest idea what will happen.So, here is my absurdly optimistic prediction:Labour - 285Conservative - 262SNP - 53Lib Dems - 20PC - 5Ireland - 18 ...
    2 weeks ago
  • October ’19 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
    Image Credit: Increase Social Media Traffic & Website Traffic I notice a few regulars no longer allow public access to the site counters. This may happen accidentally when the blog format is altered. If your ...
    2 weeks ago
  • A mountain of a challenge in banning glyphosate
    Belinda Cridge I was reading my son a story last night. A great tale of derring-do of five mountaineers scaling the Matterhorn for the first time. One in the party had tried six times previously and failed, this was the last attempt before winter closed another season. They tried a ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    2 weeks ago
  • This government has a problem with secrecy
    As introduced, the Zero Carbon Bill included an expansive secrecy clause, which would have covered virtually all decisions by the Climate Change Commission over our most important policy area. The Ministry for the Environment admitted this was a mistake (or as they put it, an "oversight"), and the select committee ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • A small New Zealand songbird that hides food for later use provides insights into cognitive evolutio...
    Rachael Shaw, Victoria University of Wellington When we think about animals storing food, the image that usually comes to mind is a squirrel busily hiding nuts for the winter. We don’t usually think of a small songbird taking down an enormous invertebrate, tearing it into pieces and hiding these titbits ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    2 weeks ago
  • Referenda on Euthanasia – NZ First’s Victory – or a Major Miscalculation?
    . . NZ First’s success in putting the euthenasia bill to a public referenda may not be the victory they believe it to be. They may even have sounded the death-knell for a second Labour-NZ First-Green coalition. On 23 July this year, NZ First MP, Jenny Marcroft, submitted a Supplementary ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    2 weeks ago
  • Corbyn the Mighty vs BoJo the Clown
    Interesting contrasting pictures in the Guardian:Corbyn gets the classic positive shot - low angle and a clear background, making him look authoritative (of course, being Corbyn, he doesn't do authoritative very well).Where as Johnson gets pictured with children at some sort of mad-hatters' tea party:Begging the question, who is the ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Public health, externality, and vaccination
    Paternalism is contentious. Arguments for state action to protect us from ourselves are fraught. I come down pretty heavily on the anti-paternalism side of the argument, but I’ve heard respectable defences of paternalism. But policy around vaccination is hardly paternalistic. There’s a clear market failure that could be pointed to ...
    SciBlogsBy Eric Crampton
    2 weeks ago
  • Happy Halloween
    Its Halloween, so its time for annual pumpkin trepanning and chocolate eating ritual. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Twenty thousand leagues under the sea
    I’ve been reading Jules Verne’s novel Twenty thousand leagues under the sea, considered as one of the very earliest science fiction stories. In brief, Monsieur Aronnax and a couple of sidekicks are taken prisoner by Captain Nemo and his mysterious crew and treated to an underwater voyage around the world ...
    SciBlogsBy Marcus Wilson
    2 weeks ago
  • Climate Change: Disclosing the risks
    The climate crisis is going to mean some pretty big changes in our country, both from its impacts and the policies required to address them. Most obviously, whole suburbs are going to be underwater by 2100, meaning people and businesses are going to have to relocate to higher ground. But ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • MPI fails again
    Yesterday a dairy company was fined $483,000 for repeatedly failing to report listeria in its facility. Its a serious fine for a serious crime: listeria is a serious disease, and they were effectively trying to kill people with it. But there's another story hidden in there, and its not a ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Gay Men Address Gender Identity
    Gay men see the excesses of trans activism and are increasingly speaking out.  A new Facebook group addressing ‘gender identity’ and contemporary trans activism has been set up for gay men, by gay men. The following is the group’s Statement of Intent, Group Rules, and link to the group for ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • National’s Going Gangbusters.
    Criminal Enterprises: Gangs are not welfare institutions. Nor are they a substitute for the family their members never had. They are ruthless, violent, criminal money-making machines. That is all.OKAY, first-things-first. Gangs exist for one purpose – and only one. They are a sure-fired, time-tested institution for making crime pay – ...
    2 weeks ago
  • “Action for Healthy Waterways”: Some big ticket actions that the Government has neglected
    Prof Nick Wilson, A/Prof George Thomson, A/Prof Simon Hales, Prof Michael Baker The NZ Ministry for the Environment has produced a valuable discussion document with many good ideas for improving the health of waterways in New Zealand. But there are important gaps. In this blog we consider three big-ticket items ...
    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    2 weeks ago
  • ADHD and fluoride – wishful thinking supported by statistical manipulation?
    Finding reality needs more than wishful thinking. The problem is that statistical arguments often provide a jargon to confirm biases. Image credit: Accurate Thinking Versus Wishful Thinking in Gambling I worry at the way some ...
    2 weeks ago
  • “Line the wasters up!”: Yes, NZ, it’s “bash the poor!” time again with ya mate Simon…
    This really shouldn’t need to be said, but hell… looks like we need to do it all over again: Simon Bridges, and the National Party shock politics doctrine, seems to demand every time that its Leader, its Party and anyone seemingly involved with it, cannot get real traction on real ...
    exhALANtBy exhalantblog
    2 weeks ago
  • A partial release
    The Ombudsman has ruled on the issue of Julie-Anne Genter's letter to Phil Twyford on the "Let's Get Wellington Moving" policy, and forced the release of some information. The Ombudsman's statement is here. The key point: the letter was written in part in a Ministerial capacity, and was official information ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Climate Change: California burning
    Its fire season in California, and the state is on fire again, with tens of thousands evacuated and millions without power as forests and homes burn. And its so bad now that some are asking whether parts of the state are now too dangerous to inhabit:Three years in a row ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • To Save Democracy, We Must Make The Media Our Own.
    New Zealanders' Television: Obliterated almost completely from New Zealanders’ collective memory is the amazing collection of creative talent which was all-too-briefly assembled in the purpose-built Avalon television studios (above) situated ten miles north of the capital. If this period is recalled at all it is only for the purposes of ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Again on Child Poverty
    by Don Franks When the poor finally explode in frustration and seize what they want, police deal to it. With clubs, if needed, with guns. Looting riots are rare in New Zealand, most recent was in 1932. Unemployed Aucklanders, provoked by police bashing their speaker, smashed shop windows and stole. ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago

  • Week That Was: Historic action on climate change
    "Today we have made a choice that will leave a legacy... I hope that means that future generations will see that we, in New Zealand, were on the right side of history." - Jacinda Ardern, Third Reading of the Zero Carbon Bill ...
    4 days ago
  • Tax-free deployments for Kiwi troops
    Darroch Ball, New Zealand First List MP A Member’s bill has been proposed that would provide income tax exemptions for all New Zealand Defence Force (NZDF) personnel while on operational deployment overseas. The Income Tax (Exemption for Salary or Wages of NZDF Members on Active Deployment) Amendment Bill proposed by New Zealand First ...
    4 days ago
  • A balanced Zero Carbon Bill passed
    Rt Hon Winston Peters, New Zealand First Leader New Zealand First is proud to have brought common sense to the Climate Change Response (Zero Carbon) Amendment Bill, which passed its final reading in Parliament today. Party Leader Rt Hon Winston Peters says months of hard work went into negotiating a balanced ...
    5 days ago
  • Paramedics’ status to be recognised
    Jenny Marcroft MP, Spokesperson for Health New Zealand First has listened to calls to recognise paramedics as registered health professionals under the Health Practitioners’ Competence Assurance Act (the Act). Today, the Coalition Government announced plans for paramedics to be registered as health practitioners under the Act, and the establishment of a ...
    1 week ago
  • Week That Was: 2,000 teachers in two years
    We began the week by commemorating the New Zealand Wars and celebrating a major increase in the number of teachers. Then, we were busy supporting offenders into work and getting our rail back on track after years of underinvestment. And that's just the start! ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Winning an election one conversation at a time
    In October I was sworn in as the Mayor of Lower Hutt. It’s the privilege of my life to serve Hutt people as their Mayor. There is something really special to be able to serve the community where I was raised, and where I live.   ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Closer cooperation with Korean horse racing industry
    Rt Hon Winston Peters, Deputy Prime Minister, Minister for Racing Racing Minister Winston Peters met with Korea Racing Authority Chairperson Nak Soon Kim in Seoul today to discuss closer cooperation between the New Zealand and Korean horse racing industries. As part of the visit to the Seoul Racecourse, Mr Peters witnessed ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Otago to lead digital creativity
    Hon Shane Jones, Minister for Regional Economic Development The Provincial Growth Fund (PGF) is investing $10 million to establish Otago as the centre of New Zealand’s creative digital industry over the next ten years, Regional Development Minister Shane Jones announced today. “The initiative will bring us closer to the vision of ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Young Otago students encouraged to take on forestry careers
    Hon Shane Jones, Minister for Regional Economic Development The Provincial Growth Fund (PGF)’s skills and employment programme will help young Otago people into long-term forestry careers, Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones announced today. Te Ara Mahi will invest $63,000 in the 2020 school year to support eight 17 and 18 ...
    2 weeks ago
  • PGF backing Dunedin’s waterfront ambitions
    Hon Shane Jones, Minister for Regional Economic Development The Provincial Growth Fund (PGF) will support local plans to revitalise and stimulate economic development opportunities in Otago, Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones has announced. The four Regional Economic Development Ministers have approved an in-principle investment of $19.9 million towards the region’s ...
    2 weeks ago
  • M. Bovis eradication progress welcomed
    Mark Patterson, Spokesperson for Primary Industries New Zealand First is pleased to have received the Technical Advisory Group (TAG) report on the Coalition Government’s Mycoplasma bovis eradication efforts, which shows significant progress in the fight against the disease. New Zealand First Spokesperson for Primary Industries, Mark Patterson, says the report’s findings ...
    2 weeks ago
  • PGF boosts Otago’s engineering and manufacturing sector
    Hon Shane Jones, Minister for Regional Economic Development Hon David Parker, Minister for Trade and Export Growth The Provincial Growth Fund (PGF) is investing to support economic growth opportunities for Otago’s engineering and manufacturing sectors, Regional Development Minister Shane Jones and Trade and Export Minister David Parker announced today. Almost $20 million ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Minister Peters discusses Pacific challenges and denuclearisation in Seoul
    Rt Hon Winston Peters, Deputy Prime Minister, Minister of Foreign Affairs Foreign Minister Winston Peters and his South Korean counterpart, Kang Kyung-wha, discussed in Seoul today opportunities to work more closely in the Pacific and the situation on the Korean Peninsula. Mr Peters and Minister Kang confirmed New Zealand and the ...
    2 weeks ago
  • PGF supports high speed broadband for marae at Parihaka Pa
    Hon Shane Jones, Minister for Regional Economic Development  Hon Nanaia Mahuta, Minister for Māori Development The three marae in the historic Parihaka Pa complex in Taranaki have been upgraded to high speed broadband with the support of the Provincial Growth Fund (PGF), Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones announced today. “Connecting the ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Advancing Pacific Partnerships 2019 launched
    Hon Ron Mark, Minister of Defence Minister of Defence Ron Mark will today launch the Advancing Pacific Partnerships 2019 Defence Assessment  during a speech at Te Papa.  The Assessment outlines how Defence will partner with our Pacific Island neighbours and invest in Pacific regional security architecture. The Plan aligns with the Coalition ...
    2 weeks ago
  • PGF funding could transform Gisborne company into “beacon of employment” in two years
    A new Provincial Growth Fund investment could create about 80 new jobs in Gisborne over the next two years, turning a local small business into a “beacon of employment” in the process. Regional Economic Development Parliamentary Under-Secretary Fletcher Tabuteau said the PGF’s Te Ara Mahi funding stream would provide $1.6m ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Week That Was: Two years of progress
    This week, we’re taking action on climate change, expanding trades education – and celebrating two years of progress! ...
    3 weeks ago
  • Minister of Foreign Affairs to visit the Republic of Korea and Japan
    Rt Hon Winston Peters, Deputy Prime Minister, Minister of Foreign Affairs Minister of Foreign Affairs Winston Peters will travel to the Republic of Korea and Japan next week. “The Republic of Korea and Japan are two of New Zealand’s closest partners in the region with whom we share common values and ...
    3 weeks ago
  • New Zealand to lead Bougainville Referendum Regional Police Support Mission
    Rt Hon Winston Peters, Deputy Prime Minister, Minister of Foreign Affairs Minister of Foreign Affairs Winston Peters has announced today that New Zealand is leading a police support mission in Bougainville as the region prepares to vote in a non-binding referendum on its political future. “New Zealand has accepted an invitation ...
    3 weeks ago
  • We’re taking action on climate change
    “I refuse to accept the challenge of climate change is too hard to solve.” – Jacinda Ardern ...
    3 weeks ago
  • Shane Jones annoyed at “elevated sense of entitlement from a lot of immigrant leaders”
    New Zealand First MP Shane Jones is defending Immigration New Zealand (INZ) after it instructed officials to stop granting visas as an exception to instructions. He has also lashed out at immigrant leaders upset with the tightening of the rules, saying they had an “elevated sense of entitlement”. Members of ...
    3 weeks ago
  • New Zealand public likely to vote on euthanasia bill thanks to NZ First
    A change to the End of Life Choice Bill was passed in Parliament, meaning if politicians decide to vote for the law it must be approved by the public first. A binding referendum was a condition insisted on by New Zealand First, and Jenny Marcroft’s supplementary order paper (SOP) successfully ...
    3 weeks ago
  • Tairāwhiti Workforce development projects get $1.6m PGF boost
    Fletcher Tabuteau, Parliamentary Under-Secretary for Regional Economic Development The Provincial Growth Fund (PGF), through its skills and employment programme, Te Ara Mahi, is investing a further $1.6m into Tairāwhiti’s workforce development, said Parliamentary Under Secretary for Regional Economic Development Fletcher Tabuteau. “This PGF funding follows on from significant PGF investment earlier this ...
    3 weeks ago
  • NZ First welcomes primary sector support for climate change plan
    Rt Hon Winston Peters, New Zealand First Leader New Zealand First Leader Rt Hon Winston Peters says the Government’s steps to reduce farm livestock emissions are necessary and timely. Today the Government and farming leaders announced a plan to measure and price emissions at the farm level by 2025. “Many farmers ...
    3 weeks ago
  • Shane Jones hits back at activists upset with immigration changes
    New Zealand First MP Shane Jones has hit back at those who are upset over a change in approach to partnership visas. There has been a specific government directive to stop waiving requirements such as couples needing to have lived together for 12 months - a test Indian couples who have ...
    3 weeks ago
  • Next steps in Northland line upgrade underway
    The North Auckland Line rejuvenation kicks off with teams surveying the rail corridor and Northland construction contractors are showing interest in the project. KiwiRail provided an industry briefing for Northland contracting and construction companies about future work opportunities on rejuvenating Northland’s rail lines. The briefing session in Whangarei was held to ...
    3 weeks ago

  • Tighter firearms law to further improve safety
    Tougher gun laws designed to improve public safety through firearms prohibition orders are proposed in a new document released for public input. Police Minister Stuart Nash says firearms prohibition orders (FPOs) would give new powers to Police to ensure high-risk individuals come nowhere near firearms. “We have already prohibited the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    18 hours ago
  • New TVNZ chair & directors confirmed
    Andy Coupe has been confirmed as TVNZ’s new Board Chair. “Mr Coupe has strong commercial and capital markets experience and TVNZ has benefited from his technical knowledge of business and finance, as well as his extensive governance experience,” the Minister of Broadcasting, Communications and Digital Media Kris Faafoi said.  Andy ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    21 hours ago
  • Hutt Road cycle path officially opened
    Associate Minister of Transport Julie Anne Genter today officially opened a separated pathway, following the completion of the Kaiwharawhara Stream bridge, which will improve safety for cyclists and pedestrians along Hutt Road.  The $6.8m Hutt Road project provides a separated path for cycling and pedestrians, the replacement of informal parking ...
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    1 day ago
  • Announcement of new Ambassador to Russia
    Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters today announced the appointment of career diplomat Si’alei van Toor as New Zealand’s next Ambassador to Russia. “I’m pleased to appoint Ms van Toor to this position. She brings a wealth of experience to the role having previously served as Senior Trade Adviser to the ...
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    4 days ago
  • Half Year Economic and Fiscal Update
    The Treasury’s 2019 Half Year Economic and Fiscal Update (HYEFU) will be released on Wednesday December 11, Finance Minister Grant Robertson says. The Coalition Government will publish the 2020 Budget Policy Statement at the same time, outlining the priorities for Budget 2020. Further details on arrangements for the release will ...
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    4 days ago
  • Giving a Boost to Kiwi small businesses
    A new initiative to better support small businesses through hands-on mentoring and advice has been launched by the Minister for Small Business. The first event in the Kiwi Business Boost series of regional workshops and online tools has been launched in Wairoa by Stuart Nash. “The Business Boost initiative combines ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Nearly three quarters of Rolleston connected to UFB
    The latest Quarterly Connectivity Report shows that more and more New Zealanders are moving to Ultra-fast Broadband (UFB), with Rolleston having the highest uptake at 74 per cent, as at the end of September. “This means that nearly three quarters of Rolleston’s households and businesses have moved to ultra-fast services. ...
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    4 days ago
  • Historic day for landmark climate change legislation in New Zealand
    The passing of the Climate Change Response (Zero Carbon) Amendment Bill will help ensure a safe planet for our kids and grandkids, the Minister for Climate Change James Shaw said today. The landmark legislation which provides a framework to support New Zealanders to prepare for, and adapt to, the effects ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Release of Oranga Tamariki Practice Review
    The review of Oranga Tamariki practice around the planned uplift of a Hastings baby in May shows significant failings by the Ministry and that the planned and funded changes to shift from a child crisis service to a proper care and protection service need to be accelerated, Children’s Minister Tracey ...
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    5 days ago
  • Minister wishes students success in exams
    Education Minister Chris Hipkins has wished students the best of luck for this year’s NCEA and New Zealand Scholarship exams which start tomorrow. Around 140,000 students will have participated in 119 NCEA and New Zealand Scholarship exams by the end of the exam period on 3 December. “I want to ...
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    5 days ago
  • New High Commissioner to the United Kingdom announced
    Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters today announced the appointment of Bede Corry as New Zealand’s next High Commissioner to the United Kingdom. “The appointment of a senior diplomat to this important role underlines the significance New Zealand places on our relationship with the United Kingdom,” said Mr Peters. “The United ...
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    5 days ago
  • New Police recruits making Auckland safer
    An innovative approach to boosting the number of frontline Police has seen 20 new officers graduate from one of the uncommon training wings in Auckland. Police Minister Stuart Nash says the graduation of 20 constables today means that 1,765 new Police officers have been deployed since the coalition government took ...
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    5 days ago
  • Over 1.2 million hours of community work helps local communities
    Corrections Minister Kelvin Davis says the 1.2 million hours of community work completed by offenders in the last financial year has helped local communities right across the country. “Community work sentences are a great way for people to pay something positive back to society. There is a massive benefit to ...
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    5 days ago
  • Te Huringa o Te Tai – Police Crime Prevention Strategy
    "A pathway for Police in leadership with Iwi Māori, to achieve the aspirations of Māori whānau." Police launch of Te Huringa o Te Tai, Pipitea Marae,  Thorndon Quay, Wellington Nau mai, haere mai. Tēnā koutou, tēnā koutou, ka nui te mihi, ki a koutou. Hello everyone, warm greetings to you all. ...
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    6 days ago
  • Kiwis getting higher pay
    Working New Zealanders are getting more in their back pockets under the Coalition Government’s economic plan. Stats NZ data today shows average weekly ordinary time earnings are up by $83 since the Government took office. This shows that working New Zealanders are getting higher take-home pay, and that employers are ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • More support for schools to reduce energy consumption and environmental impact
    The Government is supporting schools to cut down their energy consumption and reduce environmental impacts, with a quarter of all schools having their lights replaced with LEDs, a sustainability contestable fund and a plan to improve the environmental sustainability of all schools in the future. Education Minister Chris Hipkins and ...
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    6 days ago
  • New Zealand’s manaakitanga highlighted in China
    Tourism Minister Kelvin Davis heads to China on Friday to lead the New Zealand Government presence at the China-New Zealand Year of Tourism closing ceremony. The ceremony will take place at Canton Tower in Guangzhou on Sunday 10 November. “The Year of Tourism has been mutually beneficial for both New ...
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    6 days ago
  • Climate change research boost
    Should we plan for drought or deluge and how is CO2 released from the ocean’s floor? Several climate change projects were given a boost in the latest Marsden Fund investment of $83.6 million, Research, Science and Innovation Minister Megan Woods said today. “Climate change is long-term challenge that requires out-of-the-box ...
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    7 days ago
  • Significant progress on Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership (RCEP)
    Leaders of 16 countries negotiating the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership (RCEP) have announced the completion of negotiation on the text as well as agreement on virtually all market access issues between 15 countries. The leaders said they will work with India to resolve its outstanding concerns in a way that ...
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    7 days ago
  • Learn how to stay safe on World Tsunami Awareness Day
    Civil Defence Minister Hon Peeni Henare says World Tsunami Awareness Day today (5 November) is a chance for all New Zealanders to learn more about the tsunami risk in our regions and the right actions to take to stay safe. “All of New Zealand’s coastline is at risk of tsunami. ...
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    1 week ago
  • Formal recognition at last for paramedics’ frontline medical role
    New Zealand’s more than 1000 paramedics are to have their role as key frontline health professionals formally recognised and regulated in the same way as doctors and nurses, Health Minister David Clark says. The Government has agreed to regulate paramedics under the Health Practitioners Competence Assurance Act 2003. “Paramedic leaders ...
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    1 week ago
  • Government improving protections for consumers and workers when businesses fail
    Changes to insolvency law announced by the Government today will include requirements to honour up to 50 per cent of the value of gift cards or vouchers held by consumers, Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister Kris Faafoi says. “When a business is insolvent, these consumers are often left out of ...
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    1 week ago
  • Outstanding public service recognised
    Six New Zealanders tonight received medals for their meritorious work in the frontline public service. The Public Service Medal, established by Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, is awarded annually. “For the second year this Government has recognised public servants who have made a real difference to the lives of New ...
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    1 week ago
  • Global trade, business promotion focus of Shanghai meetings
    Minister for Trade and Export Growth David Parker heads to Shanghai today for the China International Import Expo and meetings focused on reforming the WTO. Over 90 New Zealand companies will be exhibiting at the second China International Import Expo (CIIE), which runs from 5-10 November. “China is one of New Zealand’s ...
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    1 week ago
  • Drivers to get more time to gain full licence
    Drivers holding a current five-year learner or restricted car or motorbike licence, expiring between 1 December 2019 and 1 December 2021, will receive an automatic two-year extension, Associate Transport Minister Julie Anne Genter announced today. Over 144,000 drivers’ time-limited licences are due to expire in the next two years; 67,000 ...
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    1 week ago
  • NZ-China FTA upgrade negotiations conclude
    Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and Minister for Trade and Export Growth David Parker have announced the conclusion of negotiations to upgrade New Zealand’s existing free trade agreement with China.   “This ensures our upgraded free trade agreement will remain the best that China has with any country,” Jacinda Ardern said.   She ...
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