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Open mike 05/06/2012

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127 comments on “Open mike 05/06/2012”

  1. For those of you who, according to Gosman, know nothing about Derivatives and who like me think that all of this countries finances should be clear, transparent and on the books, here is an excellent article from the prominent blog Washington’s post about how Derivatives to the tune of 20x the Global GDP is going to blow up in our faces and that includes the $ 112 Billion OFF THE BOOKS Derivatives this government has build up over the last couple of years.

    Here is an interesting timeline for the Derivatives market and Oops it turns out that Bankers trust bank created the first Credit Default Swap right a the time John Key was working there and that is exactly the Derivative sold to the muppets as the Hedge against the other gabling tools!

    Added to that here is an interesting list of people who visited the Bilderberg conference this year. Royalty, Bankers, Ministers (Even the prime minister of Holland) and people like Kissinger all sitting in small rooms discussing how to get rid of the cockroaches.

    No conspiracies of course. That would not happen. Our leaders love us.

    • Bored 1.1

      I wonder if the elite of the Ancien Regime ever got together for secret meetings at Versailles before the revolution. If so it did not prevent their appointments with thhe “national barber”.

      • travellerev 1.1.1

        Funny you should ask. I’m currently working on a post comparing the current circumstances with those of the Ancien Regime. 

    • vto 1.2

      I see Chris Trotter in the Press this morning describing how banks simply print money they do not have (fractional reserve banking) and calling for the money-printing factories to be taken out of private hands and placed into public ownership.

      It is rare to see a ommentator of any kind raising the subject of fractional reserve banking and its private ownership. This is a sign of the ebbing tide.

  2. Join the cross-party cross-media campaign to push for addressing our Super issues. We need action this term, it can’t wait until 2015 – or 2018.

    Summary and bloggers: ADASS
    Facebook: FADASS
    Twitter: @TADASS1

    • Te Reo Putake 2.1

      Real world: LAMEASS

      • alex 2.1.1

        Not fair, Super does need to be adjusted. However, of more pressing concern is a cross party consensus on child poverty.

        • Pete George 2.1.1.1

          I agree that cross-party on poverty is important, but it is a much wider, more complex issue. And you could say that the ballooning cost of Super is a significant influence on that.

      • BLiP 2.1.2

        .

        Whole lotta shakin’ going on . . . I see you baby

      • Pete George 2.1.3

        Te Reo Putake, I’ll throw LAMEASS straight back at you.

        I’m not sure what’s worse, apathy, or active anti attempts to achieve anything.

        • Te Reo Putake 2.1.3.1

          “I’m not sure what’s worse, apathy, or active anti attempts to achieve anything.”
           
          Tosspot, meet kettle.

          • Vicky32 2.1.3.1.1

            Tosspot, meet kettle.

            Wearying. Do grow up! You may disagree with PG, but spewing insults around is no way to make your point.

            • Te Reo Putake 2.1.3.1.1.1

              It’s a perfectly fine way to make my point, thanks Vicky. Pete loves it when I talk dirty to him.

    • BLiP 2.2

      .

      There’s a whole lotta shakin’ going on . . . oh, yeah!!

    • Dr Terry 2.3

      Perhaps I missed it, but can somebody explain to me exactly WHY Key has taken this intransigent stance concerning Super? I cannot believe it is a sign of “caring” from him. Is it that there are too many wanting to retire who have the vote (he can sagely punish the young who have no vote, of course). The trouble is that many who want to retire continue to demand that “right” at 65 years. This cannot continue, and is in a number of cases selfish. Some government is going to have to “face the music” – and by delaying, Key is making it ever harder for that future body, whoever it might be.

      • Pascal's bookie 2.3.1

        Have a look at who votes for National, and how old they are. There’s your answer.

        As long as someone else reforms super, they’ll keep voting tory.

    • felix 2.4

      Who gives a fuck what Peter Dunne thinks about this?

      As Pete pointed out on yesterday’s open mic, if any issue has budgetary implications then Dunne has to vote however National wants anyway.

    • Penny Bright 2.5

      In defence of ‘freedom of speech’ – can you see why the NBR should effectively censor this comment – by removing it after it was initially published?

      What’s YOUR view Pete George on the OPENING OF THE BOOKS and CUTTING OUT THE CONTRACTORS who are dependent on ‘corporate welfare’?

      http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/nbr-online-poll-massive-support-pension-age-change-gb-120388

      How about pushing for OPENING THE BOOKS so the public can see the ‘devilish detail’ which explains EXACTLY where our public monies are being spent at central (and local) government level – so we can look at where the scalpel can be taken to long-term ‘corporate welfare’ beneficiaries?

      What are the NAMES of all the consultants and private contractors carrying out work that used to be provided ‘in-house’ by staff directly employed across the full range of central government services?

      What is the SCOPE, TERM and VALUE of these private sector contracts?

      If the recent USA research is anything to go by, could NZ cut our central government budget in half by ‘cutting out the contractors’?

      http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1111/S00095/wheres-nationals-corporate-welfare-reform.htm

      Could NZ save over $40 BILLION by ‘cutting out the contractors’?

      Wouldn’t that leave a LOT more public money for public ‘social’ welfare if huge cuts were made to private ‘corporate welfare’?

      Wakey wakey folks!

      Penny Bright
      ‘Anti-corruption campaigner’

      http://www.dodgyjohnhasgone.com

  3. DH 3

    A great example of how devious the thinking is from spin merchants;

    “Puzzle of Key’s extra casino jobs”

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10810802

    This bit here is strange….

    “The original Horwath report said 150 jobs could be created over a five-year construction period for a total of 750.”

    I read that as saying there are only 150 actual jobs. Surely they wouldn’t be so dishonest to calculate jobs as total employees multiplied by the number of years the jobs last…..

    • Crooked in the extreme

    • prism 3.2

      DH Smoke and mirrors, and legerdemain. Casinos and government have that in common.

      About the Greens and Russel Norman I question your careless approach to the environment and naive approach to free market economics as when you say –

      When the NZ economy recovers sufficiently we can get rid of mining & fix all the environmental problems

      • DH 3.2.1

        What’s careless about it? People have more to worry about than just the environment. We need to feed & clothe ourselves, pay the bills, raise our kids, save for our retirement… lead a life. Attempts to change this country into a more environmentally friendly one have to work in with that, no-one is prepared to go on the breadline even to save the planet. The naive approach is thinking the Greens can change the country overnight or even in an election cycle. There’s a need for common sense here and IMO the Greens are showing some. I think it’s quite refreshing.

        • prism 3.2.1.1

          DH I can’t be bothered to read past your first sentence of 10.07am comment.
          What’s careless about it? People have more to worry about than just the environment. We need to feed & clothe ourselves, pay the bills, raise our kids, save for our retirement… lead a life.

          The environment fashions our life can’t you understand you fool. Our food, our health, our living conditions, our everything.

          • DH 3.2.1.1.1

            You’ve lost the plot there mate. Like most people I’m fully supportive of protecting our environment. The discussion is about how we’re to achieve it, not whether we need to.

          • DH 3.2.1.1.2

            You’ve lost the plot a bit there. Like most people I’m fully supportive of protecting our environment. The discussion is about how we’re to achieve it, not whether we need to.

  4. BLiP 4

    WTF – That Norman has gotta go!!

    The Green Party will review its policy on mining after acknowledging the importance of the industry to the economy.

    Greens co-leader Russel Norman told TV3’s The Nation today the party would consider approving some mining, which he described as “part of life” for the country’s economy.

    “You can’t escape it.”

    He said the party did not support new coal mines but “case by case” was unopposed to mining for other minerals.

    “I mean obviously you’ve gotta look at the localised environmental impact of a particular mining operation,” he said.

    Mr Norman said a transition away from mining for fossil fuels needed to begin: “If we don’t make that transition now it’s going to be very expensive later”.

    • DH 4.1

      Why? He’s right, it is an important part of the economy. You can’t turn a country green overnight. When the NZ economy recovers sufficiently we can get rid of mining & fix all the environmental problems. Until such time we have to get by on what we have. I think it’s great that the Green Party seem to recognise this. Labour need to start watching their back, if they don’t get their act together they might be a minor coalition partner after the next election.

      • Yup. There’s ideological blindness and then there is political reality. BliP suffers from the first, Norman understands the second.

        • McFlock 4.1.1.1

          Actually, it’s a clear indication of what some people here are saying is wrong with the Greens at the moment: moving towards the center.
               
          Basically, the greens as a one-issue party can achieve significant environmental improvement by refusing to recognise economic realities, so the realities have to be proved rather than just being accepted.
             
          Look at the Maori Party: by being focussed on one issue they are actually managing gains for Maori even out of a nat govt. The Greens can do more in coalition with labour as the extreme minority party than they can as a broad-focus party on 20+%. The reason being that to get the broader focus, they need to water down their principles.
               
          Look at “Labour”: nine years’ moderate progress undone in less than four, simply because they didn’t want to alienate their broad support with sweeping changes. The nats don’t really care – they know that the policy outcome (money for their mates) is the objective, so they’ll spend their support on getting policy in for their mates.  
                 
          You can have a Green minor party, or a majority party “Green” in name only. Going for broader support by definition lessens its focus on principle. 

          • Pascal's bookie 4.1.1.1.1

            I can’t see any movement in this though.

            What’s the policy change?

            • KJT 4.1.1.1.1.1

              Yes. What Green policies have actually changed.

              Greens always have been a party for social as well as environmental sustainability.

              You cannot have one without the other.

              Russel is just “telling it like it is”.

            • McFlock 4.1.1.1.1.2

              Not so much a policy change as a change in emphasis. Slightly more business-friendly, slightly less adamant about environmental principles.
                       
              But given that I’ve never voted for them, I don’t really care. I’m just not sure how “green” they’ll be in ten or fifteen years if they start consistently getting 20-30% in the polls.
                     
              Personally I think the Left could do more with 5 issue-based parties with 11% each than two or three broad-appeal parties with ~20% each.

        • Draco T Bastard 4.1.1.2

          It’s not even a political reality, merely reality. We do need to do some mining to maintain the resources that we need but we don’t need to mine as much as we do.

          • McFlock 4.1.1.2.1

            The Greens of all people should know that if you give the bastards an inch, they’ll take a strip mine. 

            • Draco T Bastard 4.1.1.2.1.1

              There is that problem so we’ll need to ensure that they can’t take the strip mine.

              • McFlock

                But if the Greens go moderate (sorry, “recognise the practicalities”), who shift the debate beyond the practical into the aspirational?
                    
                Yeah, the nats have given “aspirational” a bad rap by using it as a euphamism for “failed to achieve even the most simple task”, but I think true policy change comes from a mixture of the idealogues and the practical – the apirational keep the practical from being merely mediocre.

    • prism 4.2

      Are the Greens against deep sea drilling for oil?
      Deep sea drilling for minerals? And if so can it be done with less danger of pollution from blowouts etc than with oil and gas which tend to go together I understand?

    • Dr Terry 4.3

      Some mining is fine, probably essential, with the proviso that it is NOT on “conservation land”. Greens have assured me that this is a rule they would abide by.

      • Fact is if you want your metals, your computers, your batteries and many if not all of your modern conveniences you need to mine somewhere for something. 

        • Bill 4.3.1.1

          Just idle speculation. I agree that certain resources must be mined from somewhere. But what quantity was simply landfilled in various forms during the past 50-60 years? And if the quantity is substantial, how recoverable would it be?

          • felix 4.3.1.1.1

            The real question is how recoverable it is relative to natural deposits. There must be a point where the former becomes cheaper than the latter.

    • Vicky32 4.4

      The Green Party will review its policy on mining after acknowledging the importance of the industry to the economy.

      Pretty much as expected… Whether he’s right or wrong, he’s showing his true colours – blue-green!
      The Greens are all about identity politics and the baubles of office.

  5. Katy 5

    Seems like the Prime Minister has been economical with the truth once again, this time with the number of jobs that the Sky City convention center would provide.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10810802

    This whole Sky City convention center idea appears to be giving of an aroma that is far from plesant. What with Banks undeclaired donations, increaseing the number of gambling machines for problem gamblers to play with in return for a new bute convention center, and now we hear that Mr Keys assesment of available work and job creation for this project are exagerated.
    What else is going to come out of this? and do we need it.

    • ianmac 5.1

      Katy. Another illuminating column by David Fisher. Of course it won’t be Mr Key’s fault that he grossly inflated the figures for Sky City so someone else will front the spin-explanation.
      If you employ 100 people for 10 years, then clearly that is 1,000 jobs. Simple.

  6. prism 6

    Housing problems were referred to on Radionz this morning. An advocate for needy families talked about their having to resort to caravans in their driveways to provide bedrooms and how cold and damp they are. Response from NZ Housing from one Ms Fink (good name) – a statement about this being against the tenancy agreements and that this use of caravans would result in an order to summarily remove them or else… What a vicious cold-blooded approach to essential need from what was once a welfare provision department providing state houses.

    And it is interesting how many women are getting into positions of power that detract from living conditions for poorer people. The judgmental model of early colonial days seems a default position for so many university trained women coming to notice through the media. Is that what the feminist movement in the 1970’s was about – agitating so that individual middle class women could get better opportunities and pay rather than out of concern for improvements in conditions for all women and society in general?

    • Carol 6.1

      prism, I agree with the concerns you express in the first paragraph.

      But your second paragraph? WTF?! Long-bow, much!? Would you follow any comment about the callousness of JK, Brownlee, English etc, with the failure of the women’s women to prevent the rise of such types?

      And what of such university educated women campaigning against poverty? Sue Bradford, Metiria Turei, Annette King et al….?

      And on the issue of lack of adequate housing in Sth Auckland and elsewhere…. doesn’t the buck stop with the Minister of Housing, Phil Heatley? And it’s more a feature of comfortably-off Tories, male and female, to have such a callous attitude to the less well off.

      But this is a crucial issue. Adequate housing for all should be a priority in a democracy. And there should be much more attention paid to it by the media and government. Instead, we get much more attention being given to the housing market – something of most interest to the wealthier classes. Those at the bottom of the income/wealth hierarchy just want somewhere warm, dry and safe to rent.

      • prism 6.1.1

        Hi Carol
        I have an uneasy feeling about women’s advance in the world since feminism and how I seem to hear female voices saying all the mean things there are to say from business and government (I note that the women you refer to are all politicians!). No figures to support it. I just know I hate hearing prissy, judgmental women who have found a place in the paid work force which apparently suits them, ie not being forced to do and say things from the urgent necessity to get any job.

        I was interested! to see that Dame Margaret Bazley got another gong – she was already a Dame wasn’t she? I think handing out recognition for being one of these judgmental prissy-lipped women as one of the handy small cleaner fish suckers to the great body of government detracts from their lustre.

        • Carol 6.1.1.1

          “an uneasy feeling” not based in any figures? Could that be just a wee bit of prejudice?

          One thing that is clear with this, and many past, Tory governments, is that they allocate women to front the nastiest of their social policies, while the main power behind them, pulling all the strings, are mostly men.

          I have long been a feminist, but for as long, or even longer, I have been left wing. As far as I am concerned, feminism means fair access for ALL women (and men) to all that’s necessary to live in our society. It has always been my understanding that was also the aim of the 2nd wave women’s movement. Successful Tory women don’t seem to subscribe to that view. They seem to be first and foremost, Tories.

          • Dr Terry 6.1.1.1.1

            Thanks Carol, a sound response.

          • prism 6.1.1.1.2

            Carol

            What’s careless about it? People have more to worry about than just the environment. We need to feed & clothe ourselves, pay the bills, raise our kids, save for our retirement… lead a life.

            I have a feeling that you are right though I haven’t figurers to back it.

            • prism 6.1.1.1.2.1

              Don’t know what I did here at 7.24pm. It’s a mess and meaningless.

              • Carol

                Yes, I figured there was some glitch there, prism. Meanwhile, my last long comment on the topic is stuck below in moderation. Maybe because it includes the com….ism word? It took a while to put together, too.

                I think, I’m done on this topic for tonight.

        • Olwyn 6.1.1.2

          What I am going to say takes in a thread from yesterday as well, about John Pilger and gay marriage. In the nineteenth century, in the English-speaking world, protestant Christianity provided the set of ideas with which power clothed itself. Ministers gave homilies on how the poor must know their place, and the same sort of women who now occupy boardrooms and government benches issued the same sort of spite at tennis parties and the like, usually with spurious Christian justifications. In the present day, the garment that clothes power has become a similarly degraded form of liberalism. It is not degraded that gay people should get married, but it is degraded to use gay marriage to divert eyes from very grave injustices. It is not degraded for women to share power, but it is degraded when that power is used to crush the vulnerable, and the inclusion of female crushers is presented as reason for self-congratulation.

          In the face of this, liberals can do as Dickens did in relation to Christianity, and distinguish the purer, more progressive form of liberalism from its degraded equivalent. But you cannot get away from the fact that the degraded version now provides quasi-justification to an increasingly nasty status quo.

        • joe90 6.1.1.3

          One thing that is clear with this, and many past, Tory governments, is that they allocate women to front the nastiest of their social policies, while the main power behind them, pulling all the strings, are mostly men.

          In a nutshell : Why the Pope Hates Nuns

          It’s tempting to simply view the church hierarchy as a cult of misogyny. But at its heart, it’s a cult of power; misogyny is but one tool for securing that power.

      • fatty 6.1.2

        “And it is interesting how many women are getting into positions of power that detract from living conditions for poorer people. The judgmental model of early colonial days seems a default position for so many university trained women coming to notice through the media. Is that what the feminist movement in the 1970′s was about – agitating so that individual middle class women could get better opportunities and pay rather than out of concern for improvements in conditions for all women and society in general?”

        I think this is a good point, as I see the feminist movement and Maori sovereignty movement helping to create neoliberalism.
        The feminist movement not bad itself, it was needed, but its outcome has been a disaster. Women may have found greater degree of freedom, but many are now incarcerated by our economic system…many of them went from one kind of oppression to another. The previous for of oppression was hard-power….now it is a soft-power which uses stigmatised assumptions…our myth of equality does not exist, but there are claims we are all equal and this just perpetuates the notion of individual responsibility.

        “And what of such university educated women campaigning against poverty? Sue Bradford, Metiria Turei, Annette King et al….?”

        True, but I would call Annette King one of the perpetrators, her and Helen Clark could have made a massive difference considering how long they were in power. (but I’m harsh on those two cause I consider the 5th Labour Govt to be one of our worst ever)

        Carol….didn’t you make a comment the other day about how women in the National are used to front nasty policies? That was a good point and I think that’s what prism was alluding to.

        • Carol 6.1.2.1

          Carol….didn’t you make a comment the other day about how women in the National are used to front nasty policies? That was a good point and I think that’s what prism was alluding to.

          Could be, fatty, but it seemed to me prism was going further than that and putting the blame on women and feminism generally.

          I do think there’s evidence that women’s movement into the workforce in numbers, has resulted in a re-working of gendered power relations – women have been accepted more strongly in PR,and HR occupations, and less so in the more dominant positions in business and public services.

          Olwyn:
          In the face of this, liberals can do as Dickens did in relation to Christianity, and distinguish the purer, more progressive form of liberalism from its degraded equivalent. But you cannot get away from the fact that the degraded version now provides quasi-justification to an increasingly nasty status quo.

          Well, to me liberalism is a philosophy based on individualism. Liberal feminism was always stronger in the US than in the UK and NZ. In the UK, particularly, socialist feminism was a more dominant part of the women’s movement. Thatcher et al looked to the US form of capitalism, to perpetuate a top-down reworking of the dominant discourses and institutions in the UK, in the form of neoliberalism. (see Stuart Hall’s “The Great Moving Right Show”). Thatcher’s/their aim was to eradicate the more bottom-up, grass-roots, and thriving socialist networks that incorporated feminism, as well as the gay and anti-racist movements.

          I think this is a good point, as I see the feminist movement and Maori sovereignty movement helping to create neoliberalism.

          We’ve been here before, fatty, and I think we will never agree on this. To me you seem to have a one-dimensional, uni-linear view of history, which starts with the 60s (maybe the 50s), and where boomers were the prime-instigators of all that followed. History didn’t begin with some all-powerful boomer generation – that period was one phase of the ebbs and flows of a long struggle.

          I see history more as a series of struggles with some progressive changes as the result of grass-roots agitation from below, followed by various backlashes and attempts by the dominant elites to regain the hegemony (h/t to Gramsci).

          One of the achievements of neo-liberalism was to separate the dominant feminist discourses from socialist discourses. They did this in the face of a lot of counter-struggles from feminists and the left generally – ditto for the struggle for Maori sovereignty and by the gay movement. The elites were able to do this by consolidating, co-ordinating and exercising their access to power in various inter-related institutions – government, education, media, financial institutions etc.

          The way forward is not to keep accepting this split of feminist causes, Maori movement, LGBT movement etc, from the left, but to re-unite the inter-related, overlapping (sometimes conflicting) issues and work together (i.e. a focus on intersectionality).

          • Olwyn 6.1.2.1.1

            Carol: Yes liberal is an ambiguous word. I was using it in distinction from rigid conservatism, but I take your point re the difference between the more individualistic liberal feminism and socialist feminism. I guess the subtext of my post is that tories make very good use of ambiguous concepts in their pursuit and defence of power, wherever they garner them from.

            • Carol 6.1.2.1.1.1

              I guess the subtext of my post is that tories make very good use of ambiguous concepts in their pursuit and defence of power, wherever they garner them from.

              Indeed they do. But also, the right can be challenged via their own conflicts and contradictions: e.g. the uneasy relationship between neo-liberal libertarians, neo-conservatives and old style nationalistic conservatives.

              PS: while Dickens did throw some light on class inequalities, I think he was more of an individualistic liberal than a socialist.

            • Draco T Bastard 6.1.2.1.1.2

              I guess the subtext of my post is that tories make very good use of ambiguous concepts in their pursuit and defence of power, wherever they garner them from.

              In other words, they lie through ambiguity. Use words that sound supportive of democracy and freedom while meaning the exact opposite.

          • fatty 6.1.2.1.2

            “To me you seem to have a one-dimensional, uni-linear view of history, which starts with the 60s (maybe the 50s), and where boomers were the prime-instigators of all that followed.”

            …as you say “We’ve been here before, fatty,”…and you know that I have said before that the boomers obsession on social liberalisation was a response to oppressive social conservatism. I have never had a problem with boomers movements for social liberalisation (I am glad that changed)…but I have blamed boomers for economic liberalisation.

            “I see history more as a series of struggles with some progressive changes as the result of grass-roots agitation from below, followed by various backlashes and attempts by the dominant elites to regain the hegemony (h/t to Gramsci).”

            I agree…that is a good description of what has been happening. If we want that to keep on happening, then we are heading down the right track.
            But we need to put the work of past theorists in perspective.Marxist theory is good for pointing out power inequalities, but it was also developed largely before the TINA mantra became embedded in our psyche, so it is not much use for moving forward. It was more useful when there was another option to capitalism. To apply a Marxist perspective within a capitalist system is perpetuating hegemony, not challenging it. I think Gramsci would focus on attacking capitalism if he were alive today…so he would be critical of the direction and achievements of the 60s & 70s feminists. My guess is he would be critical of how social ideals within the feminist movement liberalised economics.
            I see the ‘good vs bad’ framing as often being detrimental when striving for social justice, and its a bit one-dimensional for me

        • muzza 6.1.2.2

          “”The feminist movement not bad itself, it was needed, but its outcome has been a disaster. Women may have found greater degree of freedom, but many are now incarcerated by our economic system…many of them went from one kind of oppression to another.”

          –This is right Fatty, although the elites will not view the feminist movement as a disaster, given that they funded it, I can be reasonable certain that the likely outcomes of feminism will have been well understood in advance. The real trick lies in fooling people into believing it was an “organic” movement!

          A disaster it has certainly been for the masses on balance, and using stats to show its been a success (if thats possible), would be moot, as the evidence of its failure for the majority is all around us. This is not a comment agsinst the womans rights, which were necessary to have changed/improved, my commentary is only about the vehicle which was “used”, in order to achieve known outcomes!

          Where the real trick comes in, is in that for those who buy into “any given movement”, is to sell it as something it was never going to be, so once the true outcomes/consequences come become apparant, those who climbed into the movement, with all good intentions do not see themselves as having contributed to, what is, as you say a huge failure! This technique can be applied to any/all movements, and its easy to see the play book repeated for those groups you refer, and many others!

          The basic premise behind engineering outcomes, is to use groups by “selling” a product which to who know they will buy into. Once buy in has been achieved, you can then direct the journey, hence the outcomes

          Its all very simple, if only in that, being able to know how to understand human beings, and the fundamental desires we all share. The elites have been studying humanity since day 1, and as such they are almost completey able to sell night as day

          Lack of self awareness provides elites the space, to continue to execute such transparent plans, egos and narcissism provide the blockages to people seeing through them!

          • Carol 6.1.2.2.1

            Unbelievable!… needless to say, I do not agree with this flight of fantasy, having been involved in the movement, where the elites did their best to undermine it, through police suppression etc, etc.

            • muzza 6.1.2.2.1.1

              Hi Carol, in no way are my comments aimed at any individual.

              Who has really gained the most from the movement…I mean the majority of the benefits, not the bits and pieces. Woman did make some (deserved) ground, if thats what it was all about, but the elites have benefitted in multiple ways, and society/families/communites look as though they lost overwhelmingly.

              As I said…night as day, outcomes known!

              • Carol

                muzza, the most recent outcomes are not evidence of what the movement was about, nor of who supported it in it’s main activities and activism. As I’ve said above, it’s part of a long struggle. The stuff you are alluding to is just part of the way the elites have since appropriated part of the movement (and other movements), in their strive to regain control and maintain power.

                There has been some appropriation and commodification of feminism by the wealthy powerful pollies and corporates since the 80s. This was part of a backlash that also included demonising the women’s movement proper, then cherry-picked the parts of it most acceptable to the elites molded it into a saleable kind of feminism (see Madonna).

                You may not mean to, but with your line of argument you are just buying into this dismissal, demonisation and belittling re-packaging of the wider feminist movement.

                • just saying

                  I don’t think it is in any way true that the products of neoliberalism are the result of feminism. The latest outcomes of feminism, as far as I’m concerned, are greater recognition of (and resistance to) rape culture, a wee bit of paid parental leave, and a kick-arse new generation of young feminists.

                  And my life has benefited enormously from the last hundred years of the women’s movement.

                  • rosy

                    +100 js.
                    It never ceases to amaze me though, that women (and any other group that manages to grab a bit of power) is seen as an amorphous blob that should act differently to the traditional power – in our society white rich men.

                    Clearly there are a range of opinions and practices that are taken for granted in men, even the rich white ones, we have business leaders, community leaders, stay at home daddies… all sorts. Yet women, Maori and whoever else are meant to be this righteous touchy-feely group walking around with one aim to change/protect the world and save the powers that be from themselves. If that doesn’t happen the movement is seen as a failure.

                    The very fact that some from the group have a business bias gives people who have never had a vested interest in the movement an ‘I told you so’ moment when that is not the case at all.

                  • Carol

                    And my life has benefited enormously from the last hundred years of the women’s movement.

                    Ah, indeed, it has been a long period of struggle, with many gains, but also setbacks, periods of progress, of consolidation, and of viscous backlashes.

                    I think a linear perspective doesn’t really show how there have been some long term gains for feminists. Often its 2 steps forward and one step back… or 1 forward and 2 back. That is why feminism is talked about as occurring in waves.

                    First wave feminists, around the turn of the 19th to 20th century, raised and agitated for a wide rang of issues, but in popular history, it has been relegated to a narrow struggle over votes by middle/upper class women.

                    In fact, what many 2nd wave feminists learned was that, on further investigation, a lot of the issues they were struggling for, had already been taken up by 1st wave feminists….. but then a lot of it was written out of mainstream history, and popular knowledge.

                    Many 1st wave feminists were agitating for a complete transformation of society, with a broad change in gender roles and relationships, in the family, in work etc. Though in the US and UK, there was a dominant liberal strand, there were also socialist feminist strands, and activism by and for working class and black women. In the UK and Europe, there were a lot of the same strands, but there was more focus on class struggles.

                    Many of these ideas were taken up again with each successive wave of feminism, debated, reworked and new ways sought to continue the struggles. And still we continue…..

                    http://www.sagepub.com/upm-data/6236_Chapter_1_Krolokke_2nd_Rev_Final_Pdf.pdf

                    See for instance, Charlotte Krolokke & Anne Scott Sorenson, Gender, Communication Theories and Analysis (2005)

                    First-wave feminism arose in the context of industrial society and liberal politics but is connected to both the liberal women’s rights movement and early socialist feminism in the late 19th and early 20th century in the United States and Europe. Concerned with access and equal opportunities for women, the first wave continued to influence feminism in both Western and Eastern societies throughout the 20th century.
                    […]
                    Parallel to this strand of liberal first-wave feminism, a distinct socialist/Marxist feminism developed in workers’ unions in the United States, in reformist social-democratic parties in Europe, and during the rise of communism in the former Soviet Union.
                    […]
                    Radical second-wave feminism cannot, however, be discussed separately from other movements of the 1960s and 1970s. In fact, it grew out of leftist movements in postwar Western societies, among them the student protests, the anti–Vietnam War movement, the lesbian and gay movements, and, in the United States, the civil rights and Black power movements. These movements criticized “capitalism” and “imperialism” and focused on the notion and interests of “oppressed” groups: the working classes, Blacks, and in
                    principle, also women and homosexuals. In the New Left, however, women found themselves reduced to servicing the revolution, cut off from real influence and thus, once again, exposed to sexism.

                    It was a long struggle to get feminist, ‘race’ and LGBT issues to be taken seriously within the left…. and still that struggle continues it seems.

                    • fatty

                      Thanks for the link carol…I don’t dispute those goals of 2nd wave feminism. But I still see 2nd wave feminism as being one of the key ingredients in the evolution of neoliberalism.

                      Nancy Fraser critiques what 2nd wave feminism has transformed into…she notes the links between neoliberalism and feminism….and suggests there needs to be more discussion around to what degree did second wave feminism produce neoliberalism. As she says:
                      “Was it mere coincidence that second-wave feminism and neoliberalism prospered in tandem? Or was there some perverse, subterranean selective affinity between them? That second possibility is heretical, to be sure, but we fail to investigate it at our peril” (pg 108)

                      Here is Nancy in a radio interview explaining the article…@25mins is where it gets interesting, but the whole thing is worth listening to.
                      http://www.againstthegrain.org/program/274/id/041516/wed-1-27-10-feminism-and-neoliberalism

                      Nancy’s article (Feminism, Capitalism and the Cunning of History) can be downloaded here: http://www.newschool.edu/nssr/faculty.aspx?id=10288

                • fatty

                  “You may not mean to, but with your line of argument you are just buying into this dismissal, demonisation and belittling re-packaging of the wider feminist movement.”

                  I completely refuse that…I won’t speak on Muzza’s behalf, but as for me, pointing out mistakes is not the same as “just buying into this dismissal, demonisation and belittling re-packaging of the wider feminist movement”. That’s the same as someone bagging Labour and then being called a RWNJ…when in fact they think Labour is too neoliberal.
                  I am saying that the feminist movement has been misdirected and an overall failure…not a complete failure. Nobody here is trying to frame feminism in pure binary terms as either good, or bad
                  If we look at how women are still treated in society, then we must be critical of feminism.
                  Feminism has not been able to challenge modern capitalism, and for the most part has not even attempted to challenge thirdway/neoliberalism.

                  “the most recent outcomes are not evidence of what the movement was about, nor of who supported it in it’s main activities and activism.”

                  Today’s outcomes are evidence that feminism has missed the point. I don’t oppose the goals of feminism, or the movement, or the people involved…I oppose how they attempted to achieve them.
                  In my opinion feminists need to strongly resist capitalism…alongside environmentalist, the Maori movement, unions and anyone else concerned over social injustice.

                  • just saying

                    It’s worth pointing out that not all feminists are socialists or social democrats, so blaming feminism for not preventing neoliberalism is a bit like bagging the women’s health lobby for not championing male health causes – that wasn’t necessarily what it set out to do.

                    Many feminists (most in my experience) however, are against neoliberalism and are involved in activisim on a a number of political fronts in addition to feminism.
                    Unfortunately, to date, those opposed to neoliberalism, including socialist feminists, haven’t had the numbers.

                    Today’s outcomes are evidence that feminism has missed the point. I don’t oppose the goals of feminism, or the movement, or the people involved…I oppose how they attempted to achieve them

                    Explicitly what outcomes and what methods are you criticising here?

                    If we look at how women are still treated in society, then we must be critical of feminism
                    Maybe the problem has been about the resistance to feminism, and again, the lack of numbers of feminists, rather than feminism itself. This is a bit like blaming, for example, prison reform activists for the terrible treatment of prisoners, rather than the perpertrators of the ill treatments, and people with the power the actually change things.

                    Finally, here is a link to the Hand Mirror, a blog of NZ socialist feminists. If you go back through the posts, you’ll find a wealth of activism on poverty, inequality, racism, heterosexism, etc. etc. Maybe this is the kind of feminism you could support.

                    http://thehandmirror.blogspot.co.nz/

                    • Carol

                      Thanks, just saying. Well said!

                      The Hand Mirror does a good job in putting discussion and information out there on various important issues.

                    • fatty

                      “It’s worth pointing out that not all feminists are socialists or social democrats, so blaming feminism for not preventing neoliberalism is a bit like bagging the women’s health lobby for not championing male health causes – that wasn’t necessarily what it set out to do.”

                      Its not like that at all…’male health causes’ is not a system that will constrict women’s health. But neoliberalism is a system which resists and constricts feminist’s aims/goals.

                      “Explicitly what outcomes and what methods are you criticising here?”

                      The method is that feminism has been aiming to make a more gender-equal capitalism, but capitalism is a sexist-system. (i know its not all feminists accept capitalism)

                      There are social outcomes – single mothers are stigmatized and this will get worse as the economy continues to stagnate. Women’s bodies are more sexualised than ever before, its a result of capitalism. That’s consumerism and advertising. Gender stereotyping around unpaid work still exists, even though many women work as well. etc
                      economic outcomes – Women have been used for ‘flexibility’, poor wages, temporary work. Consumerism is aimed at women, to make money for men. Top job’s with power is often just tokenism. White men controlled resources 100 years ago, not much has changed. We still use childbirth as an excuse to force women into poverty. Women are disproportionally affected by capitalist crises, etc

                      Those outcomes are difficult to improve under capitalism. My critique of feminism, culturalism, environmentalism and other identity politics is not their demands, because I support them…its when there methodology is trying to achieve them under thridway/neoliberalism/capitalism

                      yeah, handmirror is good…I like reading QOT on http://ideologicallyimpure.wordpress.com/

          • just saying 6.1.2.2.2

            Lack of self-awareness
            Your problem on this issue in a nutshell Muzza.

            • muzza 6.1.2.2.2.1

              “And my life has benefited enormously from the last hundred years of the women’s movement”

              –JS – Unfortunately you showed your bias in the above comment, which is where the lack of self awareness I refer to comes in.

              Very few people are able to disassociate themselves from their bias in order that they can be neutral on a topic which has touched them directly..

              @ Carol, I also refute your comment – Fatty’s response to it, covers off the main reason for me around complexity, and why its not simply a case of 2 dimensional thought!

    • Treetop 6.2

      I to heard this segment on about 8.40 am. Caravans have mushroomed in Sth Auckland in the last 36 months. 14 day notices to remove them or else a Tenancy Tribunal hearing. 15 – 25 people crammed into a dwelling. The way HNZ is being run, it is a NATIONAL DISGRACE.

      What is going to happen with the people housed in the caravans?

      The only solution I can come up with and it is a bad one, is to open up a HNZ caravan park.

      A relative who recently applied told me that HNZ sent them to WINZ for WINZ to do an assessment and they were told that they did not qualify for HNZ housing. What a load of BS as I qualified last September and I am in a better financial situation than my relative and her health is a bit worse than mine and we live in the same region. Basically they were told that they have a flat to live in.

      What is going on with WINZ doing HNZ assessments?

      Are WINZ topping up the benefit using TAS for accommodation (renewal required every three months) more than they used to, to disguise the shortage in housing?

      Who are they and why are desperate people not being housed by HNZ?

      • Carol 6.2.1

        Thank-you, Treetop, for that info. It’s a disgraceful situation! And, in the long-run, is bad for all of us, not just those suffering most.

      • Treetop 6.2.2

        Something did not quite seem right about WINZ doing HNZ assessments so I have done some checking. It turns out that a person from HNZ comes into the WINZ office regularly.

  7. Pascal's bookie 7

    faaaarking check this shit out:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jun/04/jubilee-pageant-unemployed

    …long-term unemployed jobseekers were bussed into London to work as unpaid stewards during the diamond jubilee celebrations and told to sleep under London Bridge before working on the river pageant.

    • John72 7.1

      Perhaps there were not any beds available. Have a look around Christchurch after an earhquake. At least it was Summer.
      Some people are habitual complainers.

      • Pascal's bookie 7.1.1

        Indeed. Ungrateful sods should have been grateful just doing their unpaid duty. Free trip to the city on top.

      • Jackal 7.1.2

        You would complain as well if you weren’t paid and told to sleep under a bridge.

      • Draco T Bastard 7.1.3

        And some people are habitually blind to the truth.

      • Vicky32 7.1.4

        Some people are habitual complainers.

        Are you serious? I do hope not, but I fear that you are. Words fail me… 🙁

  8. Here is a nice bit of gossip you won’t find in the News papers
    After John Key’s surprise of signing a partnership with NATO he will have dinner with Prime Minister Harper of Canada who will arrive fresh from the 2012 Bilderberg meeting in Virginia at the pad of another known Bilderberger Prime Minister Cameron. Still feel John Key has the best interests of New Zealanders at heart?

    • muzza 8.1

      “”We want to be even more closely connected with countries that are also willing to contribute to global security, where we all have a stake.”

      –All sounds very caring…I wonder what we have be signed into now, my someone who does not have the authority to sign us up for….Maybe the lawyers on here, can explain just where the authority originates from!

      • travellerev 8.1.1

        One word. Bilderberg!
         

        • vto 8.1.1.1

          Who is Bilderberg and what do they do? Maybe I just google or wiki it …

          • felix 8.1.1.1.1

            Oh, just the top couple of hundred of the world’s heads of industry, banking, and government meeting in secret annually for the last 50 years by invitation only and with zero media attention and zero accountability.

            Nothing to worry about.

        • muzza 8.1.1.2

          Its not likely that a group made up of so many “influencial” people, is simply having a get together, but given that there is much spotlight on it these days, it would not surprise me if its become a smoke screen.

          What is certain, is that there is much which happens, be it at Bilderberg or elsewhere, that the peasants will never be allowed to know about, but which will greatly impact negatively, many!

          People just need to take a look around the globe at the horrors being waged, via (all types of) wars, genetic engineering, domination of equities/commodities markets, and the resulting misery created by such entities as the I.C.E.

          Its little more than a game of chess to the elite, and human lives simply expendable!

          • Treetop 8.1.1.2.1

            Without contradicting myself in 8.2, any gathering would have the subject of Greece leaving the EC and not repaying the borrowed euros. I think that Greece will revert back to their pre EC currency.

      • joe90 8.1.2

        @ Treetop.

        Here’s Max Kaiser talking to Hugo Salinas Price about Greece reverting to a silver standard.

    • Treetop 8.2

      Still feel John Key has the best interests of New Zealanders at heart?

      Key only has self interest jetsetting around the globe and partying up in London using the Queen’s 60th Anniversary on the throne as an excuse.

      Do you know where Gillard is?

      She is currently in Australia running the country with a paper thin majority. Key needs to be in NZ sorting out HNZ, education, corporate fraud, ACC, EQC/insurance and John Banks.

    • Adders 8.3

      “. . . surprise of signing a partnership with NATO . . . “

      Oddly enough, this was foreseen on The Standard 3 years ago.

      Key’s to-do list

      • travellerev 8.3.1

        Good for you. Did you hear anything about let’s talk about this before we decide to join the biggest group of war criminals like a good democracy should have?

    • muzza 9.1

      There it is again…Smells like more consolidation to me, which of course takes competition out of the market..

      Argh, the sweet smell of the free market /sarc

  9. ianmac 10

    “Police have confirmed they will not press charges against Bronwyn Pullar, the former National Party insider at the centre of a massive privacy breach at ACC.”
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/crime/news/article.cfm?c_id=30&objectid=10810873

    • Anne 10.1

      ACC chairman John Judge said:

      ”We’re completely satisfied that the report was correct and factual.

      ”Our staff at the meeting considered a threat had been made.”

      So his staff felt intimidated by the two well dressed (no doubt) intelligent and articulate women sitting in front of them. Political bias aside, how dare two well dressed, intelligent etc. women confront his ‘sensitive wee souls’ and make then cry. Hilarious.

  10. Jackal 11

    A Labour/Greens coalition on the cards

    The current averaged polling shows that a Labour/Greens coalition at 54 seats could potentially govern alone… And a Labour/Green/Mana/NZFirst coalition on 65 seats would easily beat a Nat/UF/Maori coalition on 56 seats…

  11. freedom 12

    http://rt.com/usa/news/megaupload-us-court-rothken-964/

    It does appear that our Attorney and Solicitor Generals just took the US Government’s word that we could proceed with the illegal raid and detention of a NZ citizen and seize that citizen’s business.

    I imagine the NZ end of the phone call went something like this: “Hi guys, how’s Virginia?”-” Sweet bro, what can we do for y’all?”- ” Arrest who”, oh yeah Johnny said he’s a fun guy. What is he charged with?” – “oh ok, but doesn’t MegaUpload run out of Hong Kong?” – ” You don’t care about international law anymore? So, ummm, moving on, and under what law exactly is the warrant to be processed?” – ” you will add the law later? i guess that’s ok then, we’ll meet with him at his offices in a few days ” – ” woah chill dude, you want us to what? raid his house and round the whole family up with automatic weapons and dogs and flashbangs?? Isn’t that a bit of an over reaction to what is really a white collar crime?” – ” it isn’t, oh our bad then! No problem, we’ll nab the evildoer for ya, scratch our back on the TPP eh?”-” what do you mean we better just do what you say and cut the backchat? (unclear noises emanate from the ninth floor) yes Sir, right away sir, consider it done.” endcall. the rest as they say is deleted history.

  12. joe90 13

    America, you have a problem.

  13. Jackal 14

    ACC’s false police complaint against Bronwyn Pullar

    Clearly the complaint to the Police was not made in good faith. ACC would have known that Bronwyn Pullar had not tried to blackmail them, as the recording would have categorically proven…

    • Te Reo Putake 14.1

      They didn’t have the recording to rely on when they laid the complaint, Jackal. They still don’t, as Camp Boag won’t let them have a copy. They went to the fuzz on the reports of the senior managers at the meeting, who felt they were subject to a shakedown. Maybe they got that wrong, but if it was an honestly held belief, then they had no choice but to go to the police. That’s ethical behaviour, even if they were mistaken.
       
      I don’t expect the same ethical standards from a National Party hack though. Particularly when the target is the cornerstone of our workers’ health and safety and a world leader in worker’s accident comp resolution and rehab. And it’s ours, Jackal. Yours and mine. It’s a public entity, delivering 100% for the public good. Which the advocate at the centre of this issue is 100% opposed to. Cui bono, Jackal?

      • Jackal 14.1.1

        You make a good point Te Reo Putake, in that all of this is damaging ACC, which is in my opinion what National want the most. If the devious little Nats can damage ACC enough, they think the public will be more accepting of privatisation.

        But there cannot be any question about senior management making false claims about Bronwyn Pullar trying to blackmail ACC. It’s not ethical behaviour when they knew a false police complaint was being made… That’s a serious crime, and somebody in ACC should be held to account.

        • Te Reo Putake 14.1.1.1

          In what way is it a false complaint? How could they know that the tape does not contain a specific threat that meets the test for prosecution if they don’t have a copy? They relied on the recollections and judgement of their managers and obviously still do. Laying the complaint was the right thing to do.

          • Jackal 14.1.1.1.1

            You’re arguing that senior managers don’t know what blackmail is, and perhaps that they were not aware that a false police complaint was being made… I find both contentions rather spurious! ACC doesn’t need to have the recording to know if the claims of blackmail are true… because they were at the meeting with Boag and Pullar.

            I don’t think it’s mere forgetfulness or improper judgement by senior ACC staff… as they promoted the claims of blackmail. There has been no attempt to retract the claims, or requirement to do so by the Minister of ACC, Judith Collins, even after what the tape recording contained became public knowledge.

            You don’t simply misconstrue what somebody means when they try to blackmail. ACC even made claims about what Pullar said, which if true would have been blackmail. The law is very clear, you cannot fabricate evidence by any means. If you knowingly allow somebody else to make a false statement, you are conspiring to bring false accusation.

            The punishment for somebody who commits blackmail is imprisonment
            for a term not exceeding 14 years. A person who conspires to bring false accusation against somebody for blackmail faces the same sentence.

            • Te Reo Putake 14.1.1.1.1.1

              Blackmail? Says who? ACC reported what appeared to be an attempt to coerce senior management to the police, not a case of blackmail. Its the cops who decide what charges are made, if any, not ACC. Its blackmail when the cops say it is. Not that I think ACC ever said it was anyway.
               
              Look, Jackal, I’m not trying to make a big deal out of your buying the Boag line, just pointing out the nature of the person promoting the attack on ACC your post supports and the political implications that flow from trusting that quarter.

              • Jackal

                You would expect ACC to gain legal advice, before making a police complaint. I don’t think you can make a complaint concerning coercion in New Zealand, unless it’s to do with trafficking in people.

                It’s not legally known as coercion… It’s known as blackmail. ACC claimed that Ms Pullar threatened to go to the media about the privacy breach unless she was given a two year guaranteed benefit… the law would class that as blackmail and the police would normally require a complaint to conform to the law.

                Jackal, I’m not trying to make a big deal out of your buying the Boag line, just pointing out the nature of the person promoting the attack on ACC your post supports and the political implications that flow from trusting that quarter.

                What the? I don’t trust Boag, and have not purchased her line. Even if I did, there are no political implications. I trust what is on the tape and simply don’t by into all the faction bullshit that is being spun. I think this is about ACC bullying a claimant, which happens all too regularly these days.

              • Anne

                According to this stuff article, Puller provided ACC with a tape recording of the meeting in April. It also says ACC’s lawyers and chief executive Ralph Stewart were sent a transcript of the tape recording.

                I don’t recall the time lines involved so in the first instance ACC may have laid the police complaint before knowing the content of the recording. But they have had a chance to listen/read since. It seems strange to me they havn’t altered their stance given, we have been told, there was no evidence of coercion/blackmail (call it what you will) on that tape.

                http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/7045339/No-extortion-charges-against-ACC-whistleblower

                • Te Reo Putake

                  That’s not the case, Anne. Boag has never supplied a copy of the tape to ACC, though a single ACC staffer was allowed to listen to it one time only. Not a lawyer, either.

      • Carol 14.1.2

        Cui bono, Jackal?

        Yes, I worry about what Pullar and Boag’s agenda is here. It looks to be based in a c0ck-up by ACC, but, I think there’s some opportunism there from the Key/Nact fan club.

        And all the c0ck-ups etc are as likely to be from problems to do with underfunding of ACC, and, more recently, in manipulating it for privatisation, as from the basic premise of ACC serving the people.

        • Jackal 14.1.2.1

          The scandal is having a devastating effect on ACC:

          The average ranking for agency performance was 4.1 (down from 4.3 last year) and 4.4 for chief executive performance (down from 4.6).

          At ACC, the chief executive’s rating dropped from 4.5 to 3.7 and the agency overall went from 4.4 down to 3.7.

          Ralph Stewart replaced Dr Jan White in charge of ACC in September last year, and has since overseen a series of privacy blunders, including the accidental emailing of the personal details of thousands of ACC clients to Bronwyn Pullar.

          The Trans Tasman review suggested inquiries into privacy breaches at ACC were “likely to expose a lax attitude towards privacy issues” and very little in the way of systemic safeguards.

  14. ..so here’s my mother (74), this morning, lying on the bed in the treatment room of her GP, (soon to be diagnosed with congestive heart failure at the local hospital) about to get an ECG. While desperately trying to get some air into her lungs, gets told by the person conducting the ECG, “We notice that you don’t owe us any money so you will be able to pay this off in installments.”
     
    WTF!

  15. Jenny 17

    “People make a mess”

    Like the character Nick Taylor in the movie, ‘Thank You For Smoking’

    Self admitted “Oil lobbyist”, David Robinson is a highly paid apologist for the fossil fuel lobby.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10810727

    Robinson’s job is to counter the environmental movement on one hand, and encourage the big investors to put money into expanding mining, drilling and fracking on the other.

    “The industry not only has to deal with opponents here, it needs to make itself highly visible to big players overseas.”

    David Robinson

    We, Robinson’s opponents, need to make our opposition, ‘highly visible to these same big players overseas’, – to discourage them.

    Painting himself as an admirer of the Green Movement, Robinson’s smooth veneer only starts to slip at the mention of the high profile campaign against fracking.

    “Fracking is the word du jour for people who are anti-oil and gas and there’s nothing more to it than that,”

    David Robinson

    Robinson keeps a USB stick in his pocket in defence of fracking. But concedes he wouldn’t want fracking anywhere near where he would personally live. And of course he won’t have to, with the salary he is on. Just as those who invest in coal mining never have to touch the stuff. No doubt, Robinson will make sure that he lives as far away from the results of his day job advocacy, as possible.

    In a parting piece of apologist misdirection, Robinson tries to get the spotlight off oil and gas and coal mining, to the pollution created in cities. “People make a mess.” he says.

  16. felix 18

    How much do kiwis really know about their PM?

    What are his hobbies and interests?

    Does he have any?

    • rosy 18.1

      He drinks beer, makes money, tells non-PC jokes and likes to big note about the vips he meets. Seems like there are not many people who need to know more.

      • felix 18.1.1

        That’s about all I could think of too. I ask because I just saw some footage of Lange indulging his passion for motor racing.

        It occurred to me that Key, by contrast, would be on the sidelines drinking. And gambling, probably.

        • Carol 18.1.1.1

          He has his swimming pool. He played squash when he was young.

          • rosy 18.1.1.1.1

            Oh – he did learned to play golf when he was a boy because rich people play golf. Not that I’ve any knowledge that he actually does that on his days off… agree he’d be on the sidelines drinking.

            • Carol 18.1.1.1.1.1

              Obviously we don’t follow/read the right media:

              http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=10697001

              John Key, Prime Minister of New Zealand
              What is your hobby?

              Golf – when I have time.

              Why did you choose that?

              It’s a game played on courses in some of the most beautiful parts of New Zealand. It offers challenge, and gives me a chance to reflect and at the same time enjoy the great outdoors.

              What do you enjoy about it?

              My son Max and I sometimes play golf together, so it can be family bonding time.

              And his daughter?

              So plays golf…..

              Or does he?

              http://www.wildtomato.co.nz/articles/key-to-the-kingdom-%E2%80%93-john-key-tells-his-story.aspx

              His stated hobbies of cooking, playing golf and watching rugby cater to voters of all persuasions – there must be more to him than that. But he stands by cooking as something he really likes doing: “Even the Good Morning show commented that I was one of the few politicians that could cook and talk at the same time”. He does enjoy golf but doesn’t have the time to play, and he’d love to learn to fly “but my wife has banned it until I’ve given up politics”.

              Huh?

              Oh, well, pah for the course… JK seems to give a different answer to the hobby question to each person who asks.

              http://www.stuff.co.nz/waikato-times/news/6323625/John-Key-likely-to-visit-Parachute

              His hobbies, he said, included cooking and reading.

              “My speciality is beef stroganoff,” he said,

              But some people think JK’s hobby is being a PM.

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    If you like any article please help promote it (and the blog). Link to it on facebook and other social media, write about it anywhere or re-blog it. We’re very happy to have other people re-blog our material, all we ask is that you mention the original source and put ...
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    1 day ago
  • Pronouns etc
    by The Council of Disobedient Women   John Fenaughty is a senior lecturer in the Faculty of Education and Social Work at the University of Auckland. In a recent column Fenaughty suggested that school teachers should use students’ “correct names and pronouns (e.g., he, him, they, them, she, her, etc.)” ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 day ago
  • “People’s Faces” by Kate Tempest
    Heard this on Radio NZ this afternoon. Perfectly captures how I'm feeling just now.It's always good to find new music, though it would be nice to be hearing something celebratory. Even "Things Can Only Get Better" would be welcome, if it was accompanied by a thumping Labour victory. ...
    1 day ago
  • A reflection on the British general election
    by Don Franks Like New Zealand, Britain is officially a country of equal opportunity under the rule of law, with increasing hardship for those at the bottom. When there’s an election, and the party most obviously callous towards poor people wins, decent folks are dismayed and bewildered. “What the hell ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 day ago
  • Well, crap
    UKanians went to the polls yesterday in early elections aimed at resolving the Brexit impasse. And they certainly have, delivering a huge majority to the Tories, and (barring internal rebellions of the sort which delayed Brexit) giving them the power to do whatever they want. And thanks to the UK's ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Austerity meets fresh resistance in Iran
      by Karim Pourhamzavi Mass protests are occurring across Iran, taking place in over 100 cities.  The protests have been sparked by the government’s cutting of fuel subsidies, a measure which caused fuel prices to double overnight. Mass protests are hardly new in Iran, but there is an important difference ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 days ago
  • Oh No! It’s a …..
    What other song could we play as the UK's political rule book gets torn up and thrown away?Video courtesy of YouTubeThis post is exclusive to Bowalley Road. ...
    2 days ago
  • Election 2019 – The Legendary Liveblog
    Legendary in my own mind, I mean.  All times are NZ, which is an hour10.00am (NZ) There's about an hour to go until the exit poll is released.  At that point, half of the British voting public will devastated, and the other half celebrating wildly.  Unless everyone is simply confused.Turnout seems ...
    3 days ago
  • Some Thoughts On Socialism As Jeremy Corbyn Loses The UK General Election.
    Forlorn Hope: When the call came down to make Corbyn unelectable, the Establishment's journalists and columnists rose to the challenge. Antisemitism was only the most imaginative of the charges levelled against the old democratic-socialist. There were many more and, sadly, they appear to have worked. Boris Johnson may not be much ...
    3 days ago
  • Cartoonist David Low’s Radical Sympathy.
    "Rendezvous" by David Low, September 1939.DUNEDIN IS THE BIRTHPLACE of, for my money, the world’s greatest cartoonist, David Low. At the height of his powers, in 1930s London, Low’s cartoons represented the visual conscience of the civilised world. His most famous cartoon, “Rendezvous”, penned a few weeks into the Second ...
    3 days ago
  • The UK has a choice as to whether it chooses to be manipulated… or not.
    If you want to study propagandist techniques, you are typically told to study Dictatorships. Not unfair, but what’s always been more interesting to me is so-called “democratic” countries and their broader information systems. Why? Because people opt for it, even as they decry “totalitarian regimes!”.. It’s quite an eye ...
    exhALANtBy exhalantblog
    3 days ago
  • Today’s secrecy legislation
    Introducing legislation which shits on the public's right to know seems to have become a daily occurrence for this government. Today's example is the Infrastructure Funding and Financing Bill. The bill establishes a framework for the establishment of "special purpose vehicles" (SPVs) to hide debt from local government balance sheets ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Hard News: Public Address Word of the Year 2019: Time to vote!
    Below is the longlist of words and phrases generated in the korero phase of Public Address Word of the Year 2019, with some editorial moderation. Now it's time to vote. As you'll doubtless be able to see, you get three ranked choices. Use your power wisely. Or frivolously, whatever.As usual, ...
    3 days ago
  • Encryption, passwords, and self-incrimination
    The University of Waikato and New Zealand Law Foundation have released a report today on the law around encryption in New Zealand. There's stuff in there about principles and values, and how proposed government policies to provide for "lawful access" by creating backdoors would destroy the trust which makes encryption ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Drawn
    A ballot for two Member's Bills was held today, and the following bills were drawn: Insurance (Prompt Settlement of Claims for Uninhabitable Residential Property) Bill (Stuart Smith) Social Security (Exemption for Ex Gratia and Compensation Payments) Amendment Bill (Willow-Jean Prime) Neither bill seems likely to be particularly controversial. This is ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Bougainville votes for independence
    Earlier in the month, Bougainvilleans went to the polls in a landmark referendum to decide on whether they would remain part of Papua New Guinea or become independent. Yesterday, the results came in, with over 97% support for independence. The referendum wasn't binding - instead it means negotiations with the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Bus strikes, suspensions and solidarity
    by Daphna Whitmore This week 800 unionised bus drivers in Auckland were suspended from work after they refused to collect fares as part of a campaign of industrial action. Drivers working for Auckland’s largest bus company NZ Bus are asking for more pay and better working conditions after being offered ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    4 days ago
  • How to support after the Whakaari/White Island volcanic eruption
    As details emerge about what unfolded on Whakaari / White Island two days ago, my thoughts go out to all the families affected by this terrible event. My thoughts are also with the first responders who worked in perilous circumstances to assist and protect those affected. Both local and ...
    SciBlogsBy Sarb Johal
    4 days ago
  • Final BMG poll – nothing to see here
    BMG research have unleashed their final poll of the 2019 campaign:Westminster voting intention: CON: 41% (-)LAB: 32% (-)LDEM: 14% (-)GRN: 4% (-)BREX: 3% (-1)via @BMGResearch , 06 - 11 Dec Chgs. w/ 06 Dec That's a bit of a "Dunno why we bothered" sort of poll. "Phillip, I'm afraid I've been a ...
    4 days ago
  • Grant Robertson Spends Up Large – On The Establishment!
    Grant Keeps On Trucking: Out of the $12 billion Robertson has announced for infrastructure investment, $8 billion will be allocated to specific projects, with the balance of $4 billion held in reserve. What does it say about this Government's "transformational" ambitions that 85 percent of that $8 billion is to ...
    4 days ago
  • Boris Johnson … Hides … In a Fridge
    I am not making this up.First few lines of the Dail Mail write up:Boris Johnson's exasperated media minder swore on live TV today as the PM refused to speak to Good Morning Britain before trotting into a fridge as he started an early milkround in Yorkshire. Piers Morgan was visibly ...
    4 days ago
  • Shy Labour Voters?
    In previous elections pollsters have bemoaned the 'shy Tory' - the respondent who is so fearful of being judged as a cruel and heartless bastard by an anonymous pollster, or their spouses, workmates and friends, that they lie about their intention of voting Conservative, skewing the poll figures in Labour's ...
    4 days ago
  • Seven reasons to be wary of waste-to-energy proposals
    Climate Explained is a collaboration between The Conversation, Stuff and the New Zealand Science Media Centre to answer your questions about climate change. If you have a question you’d like an expert to answer, please send it to climate.change@stuff.co.nz I was in Switzerland recently and discovered that they haven’t ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    4 days ago
  • Reviewing the whitewash
    Back in 2015, then Ombudsman Beverley Wakem conducted a review of the OIA, Not a game of hide and seek. The "review" was a whitewash, which found no need for legislative change, and instead criticised the media and requesters - which destroyed Wakem's reputation, and undermined that of the Office ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • You Gov MRP Poll Out
    So, You Gov's MRP poll - the weird one that tries to reflect what will happen at a constituency level and which pretty much nailed the hung parliament in 2017 - is not looking too good for Labour:
    UK #GE2019 MRP seat projection:CON: 339 (-20)LAB: 231 (+20)SNP: 41 (-2)LDEM: 15 ...
    4 days ago
  • Climate Change: Accountability?
    We've known about climate change for over forty years now,and it has been a major political issue for twenty. And yet fossil fuel companies have kept polluting with impunity, while government have looked the other way and twiddled their thumbs and refused to do anything because "the economy", or just ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Delusional And Irrational: The Rise Of Paranoid Politics In New Zealand.
    Sheer Loopiness: Many of those expressing bemusement at the antics of these #turnardern effacers, were convinced that they were yet another expression of the National Party’s increasingly spiteful anti-government propaganda campaign. They marvelled at the oddness of the perpetrators’ mindset and questioned the common-sense of allowing the rest of New Zealand ...
    5 days ago
  • Things to know about Whakaari/White Island
    Brad Scott, GNS Science VolcanologistThis post was originally published by GeoNet. Following the 9 December devastating eruption at Whakaari/White Island we have put together some information about the island. New Zealand’s most active volcano Whakaari/White Island is currently New Zealand’s most active volcano, it has been since an eruptive episode ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    5 days ago
  • Status quo supports status quo
    The Justice Committee has reported back on its Inquiry into the 2017 General Election and 2016 Local Elections, with a host of recommendations about how to improve our electoral systems. Some of their recommendations are already incorporate din the Electoral Amendment Bill currently before Parliament, but there's also a recommendation ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • The Greens abandon NeoLiberalism
    Back in 2017, in order to make themselves "electable" in the eyes of rich people who oppose everything they stand for, the Greens signed up for NeoLiberalism, adopting a restrictive set of "Budget Responsibility Rules" which basicly prevented them from using government to make things better. Now, they're finally abandoning ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Lying about a failed war
    Since invading in 2001, the US has consistently claimed that their war in Afghanistan has been going well, even when it continued year after year after year. Of course, they were lying, and thanks to the Washington Post and the US Freedom of Information Act, we get to see just ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Artificial Intelligence and You
    How should we think about artificial intelligence and the implications that it has for our work and leisure? There are many articles on artificial intelligence and its potential impacts on jobs, and the ethics of applications. These are important topics, but I want to focus on some less discussed aspects, ...
    SciBlogsBy Robert Hickson
    5 days ago
  • Statistical manipulation to get publishable results
    I love data. It’s amazing the sort of “discoveries” I can make given a data set and computer statistical package. It’s just so easy to search for relationships and test their statistical significance. Maybe relationships which ...
    6 days ago
  • More lies on the Twitter (Dan Hodges edition)
    The other big story concerning Leeds Hospital is Boris Johnson's bizzare behaviour at Leeds Hospital, where he was confronted by a journalist and challenged about a four year old boy with suspected pneumonia who was left sleeping on the floor, rather than getting  abed like a sick kid would in ...
    6 days ago
  • LabourActivistPunchedMattHancock’sSPADGate
    So, for a brief period of history, it was alleged that a protester had punched Matt Hancock's SPAD (not a euphemism; special adviser) when Hancock visited Leeds Hospital.This was reported by the likes of Robert Peston and Laura Keunssberg, as well as the less credible Guido Fawkes.  It also quickly ...
    6 days ago
  • France’s anti-Zionism is anti-liberté
    by Daphna Whitmore Last week France passed a law that equates anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism. It is based on a definition of anti-Semitism that includes criticism of Israel such as: “Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    6 days ago
  • Another bus lockout
    Over the past year we've seen major bus problems in Hamilton and Wellington, as drivers have sought better wages and an end to the bullshit of split shifts, which basicly see them "married to the job". And now its Auckland's turn. When NZBus's drivers planned low-level strike action of not ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Climate Change: Showing us how its done
    The government has been congratulating itself over the passage of the Zero Carbon Act, which sets out long-term emissions targets. But those targets are insufficient. Meanwhile, Denmark is showing us how its done:Denmark’s parliament adopted a new climate law on Friday, committing to reach 70% below its 1990 emissions in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • New Fisk
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Public sector dysfunction should not be allowed to undermine freedom of information
    Another day, another piece of legislation with a secrecy clause. This time its the innocuous-seeming Mental Health and Wellbeing Commission Bill, which (after establishing a new body and making it subject to the OIA in three different ways) includes the rapidly-becoming-standard clauses enabling it to request information from other public ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • “This is England, this knife of Sheffield steel…”
    The state of the United Kingdom is fractured, torn up, shredded. The Empire is gone, it died a long time ago. And yet, the country is still tracking with a lead in favour of the ones who play to the ingrained, class-bound division for political gain. It is a disgrace ...
    exhALANtBy exhalantblog
    1 week ago
  • CORSIA, coming soon to an airport near you
    On 27 September, Greta Thunberg addressed a crowd of 500,000 at the School Strike for Climate in Montreal, saying: “You are a nation that is allegedly a climate leader. And Sweden is also a nation that is allegedly a climate leader. And in both cases, it means absolutely nothing. Because ...
    SciBlogsBy Robert McLachlan
    1 week ago
  • Cloaking hate speech and fake news in the right to free expression.
    It should be obvious by now but let’s be clear: The same folk who regularly traffic in disinformation, misinformation and “fake news” are also those who most strongly claim that their freedom of expression rights are being violated when moves are made to curb hate speech (as opposed to protected ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    1 week ago
  • The Physics (and Economics, and Politics) of Wheelchairs on Planes
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    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    1 week ago
  • To Advance Civil Rights, Oppose Transgender Extremism
    We are very pleased to publish this submission is from Lucinda Stoan. She is a social justice activist, mother, and educator, based in Washington State in the  US.   This detailed and comprehensive source-linked overview of trans issues and what is at stake will be useful for many people, especially in ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Faafoi should be fired
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Adrian Orr – The Reserve Bank’s Revolutionary Governor?
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    1 week ago
  • Driving Us Up The Poll.
    Rubbish In, Rubbish Out: Put all this together, and it’s difficult to avoid the conclusion that anyone who responds positively to a pollster’s request to “answer a few questions” is just ever-so-slightly weird. Desperately lonely? Some sort of psephological train-spotter? Political party member primed to skew the poll for or against ...
    1 week ago
  • Jordan Williams, Colin Craig podcast series announced
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    The PaepaeBy Peter Aranyi
    1 week ago
  • How plant-based meat is stretching New Zealand’s cultural and legal boundaries
    Samuel Becher, Victoria University of Wellington and Jessica C Lai, Victoria University of Wellington Earlier this year, the New Zealand-based pizza chain Hell Pizza offered a limited-edition “Burger Pizza”. Its customers weren’t told that the “meat” was plant-based. Some customers complained to the Commerce Commission, which enforces consumer law in ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    1 week ago
  • Scientific integrity requires critical investigation – not blind acceptance
    Some people seem to want to close down any critical discussion of the current research into the relationship between water fluoride and child IQ. They appear to argue that claims made by researchers should not be open to critical review and that the claims be accepted without proper consideration ...
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: The shameful reality
    The government has been congratulating itself over the passage of the Zero Carbon Act, which sets out long-term emissions targets. Meanwhile, Climate Action Tracker has the shameful reality: those targets are insufficient:While New Zealand is showing leadership by having passed the world’s second-ever Zero Carbon Act in November 2019, under ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • More secrecy
    The government introduced a Racing Industry Bill today. As an urban who horse racing as pointless-to-cruel, and gambling as a tax on stupidity and/or hope, this isn't normally a bill which would interest me in the slightest, beyond grumpiness at more government money for a dying industry. But there is ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Unlikely online bully, Liam Hehir
    Check. Check. One, two, three, four. Is this thing ON? Hello readers, I logged in last night (yeah, it’s been a while) to mark THE END of the landmark legal case, Jordan Williams v Colin Craig, which (gulp) reached The Supreme Court, in which New Zealand’s most-defamed man was suing the politician he ...
    The PaepaeBy Peter Aranyi
    1 week ago
  • The Birth Of Israel: Wrong At The Right Time.
    Before The Birth: Israel’s most fervent supporters set their clocks ticking in Biblical times. They cite the kingdoms of David and Solomon as proof that, in the words of the Exodus movie’s theme-song: “This land is mine.” The majority of Israel’s backers, however, start their clocks in 1933 – the year Adolf ...
    1 week ago
  • Hard News: Public Address Word of the Year 2019: Korero phase
    In an unreliable, strange and confusing world, Public Address is proud to present a measure of comfort and stability by annually asking everyone what words or phrases sum up the year that's been – and then giving some of them consumer goods as prizes for being clever or simply lucky.Well, ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Generalist to specialist
    Both my parents are pretty handy – and they seem to have the right tools for most jobs in the garage and they know how to fix practically anything. A similar story could be told about their generation’s experience in the workforce – being a generalist was not unusual and ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    2 weeks ago
  • A “coincidence”
    When it was revealed that NZ First had tried to enrich itself from public office via the Provoncial Growth Fund, the Prime Minister assured us that everything was OK as Shane Jones, the Minister responsible for the fund, had recused himself. Except it seems that that recusal came very late ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Member’s Day
    Today is a Member's Day, and probably the last one of the year. After the marathon of the End of Life Choice Act, most of the bills up for debate today are uncontentious. First up is the second reading of Chlöe Swarbrick's Election Access Fund Bill. This will be followed ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Worse than I thought
    The Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade Committee has reported back on the government's odious and tyrannical control orders bill. As expected, the fraudulent select committee process has made no significant changes (partly because they couldn't agree, but mostly because it was a stitch-up from the start, with no intention of ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • The cannabis bill and the referendum
    Yesterday, the government released its draft Cannabis Legalisation and Control Bill, which will be put to a non-binding referendum at the next election. I'm not a drug policy expert, but Russell Brown is, and he thinks its pretty good. And pretty obviously, it will be a massive improvement on the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Hard News: The Cannabis Legalisation and Control Bill: pretty good so far
    As you're probably aware, the draft bill outlining the proposed legal cannabis regime to be put to a referendum late next year was published yesterday, and has already attracted a flurry of comment. It's notable that a good deal of the comment is about proposals that aren't actually new.A minimum ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Climate Change: Alignment
    One of the big problems in New Zealand climate change policy is the government working at cross-purposes with itself. It wants to reduce fossil fuel use, but encourages oil and gas exploration. It wants to reduce transport emissions, but then builds enormous new roads. The problem could be avoided if ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • How climate change will affect food production and security
    Climate Explained is a collaboration between The Conversation, Stuff and the New Zealand Science Media Centre to answer your questions about climate change. If you have a question you’d like an expert to answer, please send it to climate.change@stuff.co.nz According to the United Nations, food shortages are a threat ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    2 weeks ago
  • More bad faith
    Last year, the government announced it was ending offshore oil exploration by no longer issuing new permits. The idea was that the industry would then die off as permits expired. Except almost immediately the government revealed its bad faith, by saying they would extend permits and alter conditions to keep ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Banning foreign money from our elections
    The government has said it will ban foreign donations to political parties and candidates, and will be introducing legislation to be passed under all-stages urgency this afternoon. While I agree with the goal, I don't see a particular case for urgency, unless the government is concerned about a flood of ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Reforming the Education Acts
    The government introduced the Education and Training Bill to Parliament yesterday. Its a massive bill, which replaces both existing Education Acts, as well as various other bits of legislation (including some which are still proceeding through the House). I'll leave the serious analysis to teachers and people who actually know ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Bite-sized learning
    Amelia SharmanThere’s no one-size-fits-all when it comes to micro-credentials, those bits of bite-sized learning that can help workers stay on top of technological change.  What’s a micro-credential? While definitions vary, micro-credentials can be understood as short courses that allow people to learn new skills or have an existing competency recognised. ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    2 weeks ago
  • “Not The Labour Party We Once Knew.”
    All Smiles Now: Claire Szabo is taking up her presidential role after serving as the CEO of Habitat For Humanity. Which is absolutely perfect! After KiwiBuild was so comprehensively mismanaged by Phil Twyford, the party has not only elected a new president from a thoroughly respectable not-for-profit, but one who ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Marxist versus liberal methodology on transgender ideology/identity politics
    While much of the NZ left has transitioned to postmodern and identity politics in relation to transgender ideology, there are some very good articles about that deploy Marxist methodology in relation to this subject.  The one below is from the British marxist group Counterfire and appeared on their site here ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Book review: The Farm by Joanne Ramos
    by Daphna Whitmore At Golden Oaks, a luxurious country retreat in the Hudson Valley, pregnant women have the best care money can buy. From the organic food, personalised exercise programmes, private yoga instruction and daily massages Golden Oaks looks like a country lodge for the upper class. Set some time ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • Loosening the purse strings
    When Labour was running for election in 2017, it felt it needed to demonstrate "fiscal responsibility" and signed itself up to masochistic "budget responsibility rules". It was a fool's errand: the sorts of voters who demand fiscal responsibility are also the sorts of voters who believe that labour can never ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Climate Change: How to get there
    Writing in Stuff, Joel MacManus looks at what we need to do to meet the Zero Carbon Act's targets. The core of it:1. Convert 85 per cent of vehicles on the road to electric. 2. Eliminate fossil fuels from all industrial heating up to 300 degrees Celsius. 3. Double our ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • anti-vaxxers in a measles epidemic: so many ways to be untruthful
    “Anti-vaxers are a pro-death movement,” those comments from Dr Helen Petousis-Harris speaking about six more Measles related deaths in Samoa over the past twenty-four hours. “Anti-vaxers are a pro-death movement,” those comments from Dr Helen Petousis-Harris speaking about six more Measles related deaths in Samoa ...
    SciBlogsBy Alison Campbell
    2 weeks ago

  • Record export highs picked for primary sector
    Sustained high growth in primary industry exports looks set to continue over the next two years with strong prices predicted for farmers, fishers, growers and rural communities. Minister of Agriculture and Minister of State for Trade and Export Growth Damien O’Connor today released the latest Situation and Outlook report for ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    13 hours ago
  • New partnership to boost screen sector job opportunities
    Auckland’s growing screen sector is the catalyst for a new partnership between the Ministry of Social Development and Auckland’s economic development agency Auckland Tourism, Events and Economic Development (ATEED). The launch today at FilmFX in Henderson, is to celebrate the partnership which looks to capitalise on the social and economic development opportunities ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • A minute’s silence for Whakaari White Island victims
    A minute’s silence will be observed at 2.11pm on Monday 16 December in honour of the victims of the Whakaari White Island eruption, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has confirmed. “Wherever you are in New Zealand, or around the world, this is a moment we can stand alongside those who have ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • NZ to help fund fight against measles in the Pacific region
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters has announced New Zealand will contribute NZ$1 million of funding towards the joint United Nations Fund for Children (UNICEF) and World Health Organisation (WHO) Pacific Regional Action Plan for Measles.   “Prevention through vaccination is the most effective way of avoiding illness and a costly health emergency. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • New Zealand remembers Sir Peter Snell
    New Zealand is today remembering one of our true sporting heroes, triple Olympic gold medal winner Sir Peter Snell. “He was a legend, here and around the world,” Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said. “Our thoughts are with Sir Peter’s wife Miki and their family.” “Sir Peter is recognised as New ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • PM congratulates Boris Johnson on election victory
    Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has congratulated United Kingdom Prime Minister Boris Johnson on his election victory.  “New Zealand and the United Kingdom are close friends and despite our distance we are strongly connected by our history and people,” Jacinda Ardern said.  “I look forward to continuing to work with Prime ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Building a platform for the future of rail
    The Government has released its long term vision for a sustainable 21st Century rail network that gets our cities moving, connects our regions and gets more freight off the roads.   Deputy Prime Minister and State Owned Enterprises Minister Winston Peters said the Government is committed to rebuilding New Zealand’s ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Prime Minister statement Whakaari White Island recovery operation
    I want to start by acknowledging the families who have experienced such grief and such loss since the extraordinary tragedy on Monday. Today was all about reuniting them with their loved ones. We've just come from the airport where many of them were gathered and in amongst what you can ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • New Zealand medical specialists to provide further support to Samoa
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters today announced further support for Samoa’s longer term needs as it continues to respond to a devastating measles epidemic. “Samoa’s health system has experienced massive strain in the wake of the measles epidemic. The volume of patients needing care during this outbreak, and the number of ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Discounted electric-bikes offered to public sector workers
    Discounted electric bikes will be offered up to public sector staff across the country as part of the Government’s work to reduce transport emissions and support healthier transport options.  Associate Minister of Transport Julie Anne Genter officially launched the new initiative at Wellington Hospital today.  “The Government has negotiated bulk-purchase ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Australia and New Zealand confirm joint bid for FIFA Women’s World Cup
    The Australian and New Zealand Governments today launch an historic joint bid to bring the FIFA Women’s World Cup to the Southern Hemisphere for the first time. Australian Minister for Youth and Sport, Richard Colbeck and New Zealand Minister for Sport and Recreation Grant Robertson will announce the bold campaign, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
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