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Open mike 06/06/2010

Written By: - Date published: 6:00 am, June 6th, 2010 - 16 comments
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16 comments on “Open mike 06/06/2010 ”

  1. Zorr 1

    Vote Green – it is the only choice. I really do love me some Metiria Turei.

    • Bill 1.1

      From your link, Norman claims that clean and green is the basis of ‘our’ economic success.

      But the ‘Clean/Green’ was always a lie…a spin. So wtf is he saying exactly?

      If NZ had anything like the population densities of Europe it would take Britain’s title ( the Dirty Man of Europe) by a clear country mile.

      As it is, I’d reckon NZ to be right up there in the Pacific ‘Dirty Man’ stakes.

      Which is not to say that I agree with the Nats dismissal of Clean and Green, but is to point out that nobody really got too serious about making it an actuality…and this apparent inclination of the Greens to trade on a lie is somewhat less than laudable.

      • Name 1.1.1

        It is New Zealand’s ‘clean green’ image that sells, not the reality. We can foul the place up as much as we like as long as we do it quietly.

  2. Rozz 2

    Yup, it was good to hear some plain speaking
    from Metiria at the Greens conference about John Key .. calling a spade a spade.

    • That may be so. The trouble is the first statment from Norman was to critizise

      • This may be so, however the first statement from Norman was to critisise Labour. When will they ever learn. To be the Government we need each other. Greens and Labour are natural partners and we could become a very,very successfull government. So lets cut the harping ,the enemy for both of us is the Nats. lets concentrate on that. Any differences between Labour and Greens should be settled in private. Come on Russell Norman lets get together and defeat this awfull lot..

  3. prism 3

    The Rachel Corrie got ushered into Israel, not searched at sea and then allowed to enter Gaza’s port. Israel has offered to check the cargo and pass over any that they find suitable to Palestine. Yeah right. They have been denying Palestine so much for so long, why should they make an exception for this shipment. Palestine doesn’t want handouts and social insecurity Israeli-style.

    This is a great moment in history. There are not many eruptions of selfless concern for others in the world on this scale. We shouldn’t get too excited about the USA making noises of disagreement. They like to send an envoy who shakes the finger at them, you people are very bad, bad children, and we will have to put you in the naughty corner if you keep going against our rulings.

    What’s in it for Israel to make change anyway? They have lost any high ground they might have once had, no excuses now for fascist approaches, and they are wallowing in the criminal rut that is the sorry end for their great ideal and hopes.

    • Name 3.1

      If Israel passes as much of the Rachel Corrie’s cargo into Gaza “as they find suitable” it won’t be much. A list of the 81 items presently being allowed into Gaza by Israel can be seen at:

      http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/30_04_10_gaza.pdf

      No item not on the list is allowed in.

      The stupidity is that this blockade has destroyed the legitimate economy of Gaza, with mass unemployment. This has caused the creation of a massive black economy based on goods smuggled in from Egypt through tunnels. As with Somali piracy this smuggling is the only source of income for many. Moreover Hamas has adopted a Mafia-like control of the tunnels and imposes a tax on smuggled goods, some of which income is used to help the population, some is siphoned off in corruption and much is used to buy and smuggle in (through the tunnels which have become Gaza’s life-line) the very weapons and rockets Israel is supposed to be stopping with the blockade.

      This is a blockade imposed by blockheads.

      • prism 3.1.1

        ” Moreover Hamas has adopted a Mafia-like control of the tunnels and imposes a tax on smuggled goods, some of which income is used to help the population, some is siphoned off in corruption and much is used to buy and smuggle in (through the tunnels which have become Gaza’s life-line) the very weapons and rockets Israel is supposed to be stopping with the blockade.”

        You mention Mafia-like tactics by Hamas. It is interesting that as I understand it, the Mafia got established in Sicily when it was being crushed by serial invasions. The people turned to whatever authority was available, and the mafia was a help in holding the island people together against bigger forces. People tend to react the same everywhere.

        Hamas is the all-purpose organisation that seems to provide survival and policies for Palestine and ways of displaying defiance against Israel.

  4. Well I see some of Key’s mates and MPs have once again “played up”
    Eagleson and Sowry living it up in some very sleazy places .Possibly on taxpayers money . Top minister Grosser accused r being under the influence of too much drink and making a nuisance of himself. Jonathen Young caught in another non- disclosure scandal. NZ whale champion being left in the lurch . and the Haden scandal going around the world. And guess what where do you think the PM is whilst this is this is going on ? Well he’s on holiday .On holiday ? but hes just recently come back from a holiday in Hawaii !!!.

  5. Santi 5

    What about hopeful Len Brown caught red-handed using his official credit card on personal expenses. The comrade is so honest!

  6. BLiP 6

    John Key and Andy Haden might feel more at home in Arizona . . .

  7. prism 7

    Interesting point about Israel and Palestine relations, and why they continue to be hostile.

    Groups like Amnesty International and even the recent Goldstone report have come down hard on the disproportionate use of power by Israel over the Palestinians and, as evidenced by the fact that Israel has violated more United Nations’ resolutions than any other country, that condemnation is not unwarranted.
    http://www.santafenewmexican.com/opinion/My-View–Israel-Palestine-discussion-has-gotten-out-of-hand

  8. prism 8

    Interesting comments on Israel and Palestine issued.

    Groups like Amnesty International and even the recent Goldstone report have come down hard on the disproportionate use of power by Israel over the Palestinians and, as evidenced by the fact that Israel has violated more United Nations’ resolutions than any other country, that condemnation is not unwarranted.
    http://www.santafenewmexican.com/opinion/My-View–Israel-Palestine-discussion-has-gotten-out-of-hand

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