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Open mike 09/08/2011

Written By: - Date published: 6:00 am, August 9th, 2011 - 39 comments
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  1. Herodotus 1

    Bad management practices are not limited to NZ. Yet another example of maximizing profits at the expense of the disposable worker !!!

  2. Peter 2

    “These are very strong assets that New Zealanders will want to own,” Mr key said. NZ Herald 8/8/11

    Mr Key they already own them and by your own admission they are doing well so why sell?

    • Lanthanide 2.1

      Let me rephrase for what he was really saying:

      “These are very strong assets that some New Zealanders will want to own more of to the exclusion of other New Zealanders”

  3. Tony Parker 3


    Why is our new Chief Executive and Secretary of Education someone from England with no experience in NZ education but plenty of experience in bringing about “change”?

    For an informed opinion read here.

  4. True Blue 4

    Happy 50th birthday to our most popular PM ever, enjoy your day Mr Key.

    • marsman 4.1

      ‘The First Lady’ (sic) according to the Dom Post did not know what to buy a man who retired at 40 and bought himself a Prime Ministership as a retirement hobby. Buy him a $2 Shop tiara!

    • The Voice of Reason 4.2

      “Most popular PM ever.”
      Get back to us when pensioners hang his portrait in their hallways, TB.

  5. millsy 5

    Some pom wants us to pay every time we use a road.

    All tolls roads do is price people off the road, so they cannot go anywhere. And I shudder at the thought of privately owned roads.

    Keep our roads free and in public ownership.

    And piss off back to pom-land Mr Buchanan. We dont want your kind here. Go and tell the army of cleaners what commute from South Auckland to the city each night why they should fork out more and more and more to use the road.

    • Ianupnorth 5.1

      Yesterday it was an economist from Oklahoma telling us we needed to sell assets, today it is an economist from the UK telling us to toll the roads. The biggest crime is that the herald gives them media space!

  6. Campbell Larsen 6

    The Herald really should have ‘authorized by the National party’ on the front.
    Totally gutted that my $2 is helping them produce this spin.
    Defiantly time to stop buying these party political broadcasts.

  7. john 7

    Key’s so funny

    He said he was expecting a congratulatory phone call from Russian President Dmitry Medvedev today.

    They sat next to each other at a dinner, during which Mr Key asked the Russian how long it would take for a missile to reach NZ from Moscow.

    Mr Medvedev reportedly quipped: “Twenty-two minutes, but I’ll ring you beforehand.”

    WTF do we get nuked for your b/day?


  8. Bored 8

    Biggest laugh of the week…..Standard and Poors “credibility”……

    So yesterday they announce a downgrade for the USA, and surprise surprise, everybody, absolutely everybody mainstream, media, political, economic gurus etc…all take them seriously. What a fekkin joke.

    Kunstler summed it up nicely “I’m not the only one in America asking where do these S and P punks get off downgrading US bonds when three years ago they wore out their Triple-A rubber stamps on the cartloads of stinking offal that Angelo Mozillo and other mortgage rustlers were pawning off as bond-fodder on every Frankenstein “investment opportunity” pumped out of the Wall Street CDO mills. Government officials were righteously seething over S and P’s chutzpah, but I suppose when they tried to ring-up Eric Holder over at the DOJ they got connected to some call center in Uttar Pradesh where a friendly fellow named “Dale” picked up.

    On the New York Times today Krugman said similar S.& P. itself has even lower credibility; it’s the last place anyone should turn for judgments about our nation’s prospects…….Let’s start with S.& P.’s lack of credibility.

    America’s large budget deficit is, after all, primarily the result of the economic slump that followed the 2008 financial crisis. And S.& P., along with its sister rating agencies, played a major role in causing that crisis, by giving AAA ratings to mortgage-backed assets that have since turned into toxic waste. Notoriously, S.& P. gave Lehman Brothers, whose collapse triggered a global panic, an A rating right up to the month of its demise. And how did the rating agency react after this A-rated firm went bankrupt? By issuing a report denying that it had done anything wrong…..So these people are now pronouncing on the creditworthiness of the United States of America?

    And then there are us lot in little old NZ with a PM who gives credence to this nonsense because he has been one of them, at the heart of this deliberate blind eye fraudulent malificence. And as the MSM dish it up Kiwis still “trust” this joke of a man and his “market” cronies. Thats the blackest sickest part on our patch. Kiwis have to be crazy.

  9. freedom 9

    Here’s a question…. If Sky buys MediaWorks do we get our $48 million back?

  10. Draco T Bastard 10

    What economists don’t know about productivity

    Judged by their ”revealed preference” – what they do, not what they say – economists don’t have much genuine interest in productivity. They have a pet solution that does no lasting good, and if you’re not prepared to swallow their nasty medicine – which no prime minister or premier since Keating’s era has been – that’s a sign of your lamentable moral weakness.

    Don’t agree with everything he said in the article but that bit rings true. Economists do have their pet theory about how things should be and won’t change it no matter what the evidence shows.

  11. Excuse my ignorance but who the hell is Standards and Poor.How can a group of faceless men (its bound to be men) bring a country as wealthy as the USA. to its knees.

  12. freedom 12

    this is the sort of crap that simply has no place in the press, read the ‘PM’ headline


    fairly emphatic statement with a very clear meaning, now read the article


    spot the difference ?

  13. Ed 13

    I have been amazed at the rehabilitation of Whaleoil – from being a virtual pariah to all, he appears to now be embraced as a legitimate commentator by the news media; whereas blogs like No Right Turn are only mentioned when it is impossible to ignore good research that disscoveres facts that a good press would have discovered for itself. Whaleoil is gossip on speed, clearly fed (like Farrar) by others, but as with the Sewer inviting responses that are intended to be outrageous, with the advantage for those feeding the swill through that he is ultimately deniable.

    Good on The Standard for acknowledging a number of different authors, and for putting forward different opinions. I do not agree with all of them – and some appear to be trying to hurt the left by unnecessary dissent about trivia – but I do value the thinking that goes into most posts – the real analysis (even if some sources are still not given) and enlightened way data is presented.

    I use the Links to other blogs – one improvement would be a feed of recent posts from ‘favoured’ other sites – many of the linked blogs have little traffic.

    • lprent 13.1

      Been thinking about it.

      Problem is that upper screen space is at a premium. However these days there are so many comments on the average that I can probably push them in above the “Public service advertisements by The Standard” on the rhs. It won’t look too out of place.

      I have some work that will have to go on RSS shortly – mostly to prevent replies by RSS because some people are stuffing in ‘replies’ that aren’t threaded. But also to shift all of the RSS across to FeedBurner to offload more processing. I’ll have a look at incoming RSS feeds then.

  14. Morrissey 14

    Right wing blogger blathers a lot about free speech but…


    I was led onto Oswald Bastable’s illiterate, muddled, pathetic little blog after reading on The Standard that he and his moronic readers were making excuses for the Norwegian mass-murderer Andres Breivik.

    I found that Oswald Bastable’s blog was even worse than I feared it would be. The almost total lack of intelligent writing was pretty much what you would expect from a far right site like it, but what really affronted me was that he compared Breivik to Che Guevara.

    I duly made my debut on Oswald Bastable’s site by posting off a quick reply:

    “Che Quevara was a guerilla who sided with the oppressed. That you equate him with that moronic mass murderer from Oslo shows only that you don’t read and you don’t think. In fact, you’re clueless. You’re way out of your depth, my friend. And…you support Mr Breivik, I presume?”

    There were two less-than-eloquent replies to my quibble…

    1.) “Are you fucking mad as well as totally ignorant of history! Reader, above is an example of the totally blinkered and brainwashed (or braindead) left and I shall leave the post up as an example of what we are dealing with.—Oswald Bastable

    2.) “That is the classic- ‘It’s OK when WE do it'”—Oswald Bastable

    A few minutes ago, I replied to the first of Mr Bastable’s magisterial aperçus: “Fucking mad…totally ignorant…totally blinkered…brainwashed…braindead. That’s five abusive but ineffective adjectives you’ve used that do nothing except raise questions about your ability to formulate any sort of a rational argument. Your use of the dire and puerile adverb totally—not just once, but twice—enervates your sentences even more.”—Morrissey · 1 minute ago

    Now look how Oswald Bastable, champion of free speech, treated my masterpiece…

    This comment has been deleted by the administrator.


    • millsy 14.1

      I remember Oswald Bastable from my days on the Xtra News Community – which was powered by msn groups back in the good old days of 2001-02 before political blogging became commonplace. He was just a regular RWNJ back then but it looks like he’s gotten more feral as the years go by.

      • Morrissey 14.1.1

        He was just a regular RWNJ back then but it looks like he’s gotten more feral as the years go by.

        Feral, but unfortunately dull and uninteresting. I only went to his blog because of something I read here on The Standard, and I was goaded into replying because of the obscene lack of common sense (actually the lack of basic knowledge) he exhibited when he compared Anders Breivik, who he plainly supports, to a popular resistance fighter he neither supports nor understands.

        I note that in addition to deleting my reply to him, he has deleted another reply I made to somebody called “The Gantt Guy”.

        Debate—who needs it? Certainly not the extreme right winger who runs the Oswald Bastable blog.

  15. Sookie 15

    I know this is small potatoes in the scheme of things, what with our lameass government, the world economy tanking AGAIN and riots in my old London neighbourhood, but whoever shot those Keas in Arthurs Pass (see 3 News), you are just one of a number of pathetic feral, inbred scumbags infesting rural New Zealand who richly deserve your beloved shotgun shoved up your ass. Seriously, who the hell DOES that?

  16. Jum 16

    What cunning hypocrites Act mps are.

    Firstly, they demanded voluntary student union membership so students could have freedom to choose, whether they wanted it or not. Freedom has no place for the weak and the vulnerable.

    Secondly, they demanded enforced youth pay rates so students could get a job even though there is no evidence to say a low rate of pay would help them and other New Zealanders into more jobs.

    This shows two facts.

    1. Act mps are cunning hypocrites
    2. Employers don’t choose the best person for the job. They choose cheap and endanger the more experienced workforce’s pay rates. As soon as they can National will reduce the pay rates for youth, then they will be pressuring adults to take lower pay rates to get a chance at any jobs. If adults don’t help students to fight their battles, it will serve adults right when their turn comes to be disenfranchised.

    • Draco T Bastard 16.1

      2. Employers don’t choose the best person for the job. They choose cheap and endanger…

      Anybody with any connection to the building industry in Auckland already knew that.

    • millsy 16.2

      Not to mention the fact that as soon as a youth worker is eligible for the min. wage, he is out the door. Something that ACT fails to mention.

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