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The wreck of the Monowai
The elephant in the front room
It's grey and it's big and it can't be missed or ignored.
Thank God it is out of sight now!
This may have been the thinking behind trying to get the ship off the reef rather than leaving it stranded there, as a major, highly visible embarrassment, that couldn't be ignored, no matter how hard you tried, right in front of a globally important international conference, attended by high profile dignatories, like Prince Charles, and global media.
Where did the order come from to try and get the ship off the reef?
Was it the captain's decision?
Or was she ordered to by higher ups?
When did the water start coming in?
Before of after the ship was on the reef?
Did the first attempt at the "arse covering", begin when the ship sank beneath the waves, instead of being left on the reef, for later recovery and refloating?
From Tim Selwyn at the Daily Blog:
https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2024/10/08/hmnzs-manawanui-new-zealands-reputation-sunk-with-her/#comment-885044
(Well worth a read)
Monowai? That was the previous survey ship decommissioned in the 1990's.
I think you are repeating a lot of misinformation there Jenny. Be aware that a lot of what is being put out by people on this matter, who think they know better, is based on supposition rather than fact.
By the way I was deeply involved in the training of all personal prior to the commissioning of HMNZS Monowai in the early 1980s. A revolutionary ship for her time and again a second hand vessel converted to a hydrographic survey ship on the Clyde. The last ship through their dockyards. The resulting fires during the conversion resulting in the completion date moving to the right by about a year. Thereby extending the workers pay for a year, before they were laid off. 😸
Do you know Larry Robbins?
Yes I did!
Jenny you are being ridiculous. All ships have a captain on board. With naval vessels the Captain out ranks God. The naval officers know what to do, unlike armchair admirals such as yourself. Anyone who has ever been to sea knows the sea is a cruel mistress. By all means play with your boats in your bathtub. Please leave this to the experts.
Selwyn's article is a mish mash of ill informed conjecture, as is your comment above, like most of the commentary on the Manawanui so far.
"My experience as a mariner was primarily rowing a 12 foot fryan dinghy solo around Shoal Bay in the inner Waitemata harbour as a teenager". FFS.
Based on that criteria, I too am an expert mariner /sarc/
I've also rowed a dinghy (with passengers!) around Little Shoal Bay, as a teenager.
About the level of qualifications of most of the commentators on the Manawanui.
I will wait for more accurate information.
12pm today if you are in Whangārei – come to the civic center on Rust Ave for a PROTEST RALLY!
Disabled organised and Disabled led, to protest against the stupid economic policy of austerity.The impact it is already having on the lives of disabled people, the suffering, pain, and death. Come and stand in solidarity against the ideological fools who are wreaking our society by punching down.
Ingognito, has supplied us this link from Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum
"Argumentum ad populum"
'Appeal to the people'
Adam, if your 'PROTEST RALLY' in Whangarei against austerity by the disabled, is ignored by the authorities, (As I expect it will be).
You and your supporters need to make your appeal to the people.
Turn up to the CTU rally on October 23 and aske the meeting of trade unionists to put a motion to oppose government cuts to disability assistance.
Effect of Govt cuts on disabled people ‘cruel’ – report
https://newsroom.co.nz/2024/05/29/effect-of-govt-cuts-on-disabled-people-cruel-report/
by Laura Walters 29/05/2024
"Power companies’ spending on new renewables fell off a cliff," by David Williams.
Anger making. David goes through the disastrous sell off of the Gentailers. Their plan is to keep prices up by limiting electricity supply and thereby increasing dividends to shareholders. Why build new producers of power when they can make huge profits without spending on capital works?
Charts, graphs, data. Well done David, and my curses on the Key years.
https://newsroom.co.nz/2024/10/07/power-companies-spending-on-new-renewables-fell-off-a-cliff/?utm_source=Newsroom&utm_campaign=c7ca1398d6-Daily_Briefing+11.10.2024&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_71de5c4b35-c7ca1398d6-95522477&mc_cid=c7ca1398d6&mc_eid=88a3081e75
curses on Max Bradford and his colleagues too.
TBF, while we are tossing curses about, every government since the Bradford reform.
In particular the one that thinks a
state funded subsidy for dividendswinter energy payment is the answer.We warned this would happen. Borrowing to pay shareholder dividends.
This had previously been seen in the practices of privatised water companies in the UK in particular.
Labour oops sorry the Greens (cause Labour are neo-liberal), needs to remove from legislation that the primary responsibility is to shareholders and put it back to customers.
Better still nationalise the whole lot of them like France has done.
If we, the power paying public, realised that our high power prices were the result of Key/National antics, would we protest strongly? How do we tell ourselves?
Maybe there are too many moving targets.
My reckons say it's an easy sell for Labour, explain why the electrity 'market' doesn't work for consumers, why they will nationalise it and how the citizenry will benefit.
McDonnell Douglas merged with Boeing because their shareholder first policy ruined their reputation. Unfortunately their intent was to continue on their course and now Boeing's reputation is at risk.
This change, as per the power companies, came with the share sale by government.
Its not just the shareholders, its the 20+ high paid CEOs and execs, marketing departments and advertises all bludgeing off our need for power. I'm sure it would be cheaper to just reassign them to the dole.
From the NYT
https://archive.is/O9p7F
Michael Bradley is a managing partner at Sydney firm Marque Lawyers and writes for Crikey.
He's written a perceptive article about resolution pathways for this terrible situation, and shares my despair that this won't happen until they 'find a way to remember what they have in common: humanity'. And I have almost no hope this will happen.
https://www.crikey.com.au/2023/10/10/laws-absence-resolution-pathways-israel-palestine/
Perhaps the excuse is that those kids were actually Hamas soldiers in disguise. Sickening!
The Kiwi citizen exodus out of here continues apace.
And migrant inflow numbers continue to fall.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/immigration-a-record-81200-kiwis-departed-in-year-to-august-as-fewer-migrants-arrived/E4L2PIZNYZAZDDDGVLD7OYY6VY/
The COCs plan to reduce national green house gas emissions, reduce the countrys population
The ability to digitally connect to the regions (establish a network that could interface with the hospital/health centre – this includes information systems and finance) was one of the main 21st C developments.
As was professional to patient online interface – teleservices.
Dis-established, two positions (means merger into another management oversight, not hired for their competence in either area).
https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350448891/margie-apa-swings-axe-top-health-nz-two-executive-roles-gone
One of the best plans of Te Whatu Ora was a unification of computer systems. At present not one of the former DHB,s computer systems can interact with any other DHB. Nor can one service within a DHB connect with another service within the same DHB. For instance if a consumer within Otago is admitted elsewhere and that DHB wants access to clinical notes you have to download, print, scan, email or fax the information. Third world stuff.
It’s all deeply and sadly ironic.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/top/530005/how-did-health-nz-go-from-500-million-of-savings-to-a-1-billion-hole
Israel tweeted lots of videos of its own strikes on Gaza. @airwars looked at what they bombed and who they actually killed.
https://idf-tweets-gaza.airwars.org/
https://airwars.org/