I have not been able to get to TS all day, until this afternoon I discovered that I could enter through policy and then go on in via the comments. When I click on the regular link, I get a blank page with the words “Hello World” in the top left corner. This is on Chrome.
Microsoft has terminated support for versions of Windows before, but never one still this popular. Even though it has been succeeded by Vista, Windows 7 and Windows 8, XP was being sold on some computers as late as October 2010…….
At the same time, Microsoft will also stop patching Internet Explorer 8 and office suite Microsoft Office 2003, potentially causing a myriad of problems for unprepared businesses which risk losing access to archived documents.
Adding insult to injury, computer companies have not written software drivers for many of the printers, scanners and other peripherals attached to XP machines that would enable them to work with newer operating systems, meaning many will become e-waste before their time………
Microsoft will continue updating its free anti-malware service Microsoft Security Essentials on XP machines until July next year, and most other paid security software will also be kept current.
But anti-malware software is not invincible. So if you use an XP machine to access internet banking or buy online using a credit card, that may come with extra risks from April 8…….
PC World in the United States suggests anyone using Internet Explorer 8, which is the last version of Internet Explorer that runs on XP machines, should switch to a browser such as Chrome or Firefox. It also recommends they remove vulnerable add-ons such as Java and ensure others, such as Adobe Flash and Reader, are up to date.
I was in the cinema at the time (“her” – worth watching), so you got the short version.
Basically the database went down this morning on the morning change of load startup (the provider turned out to be VERY slow fulfilling request for more servers). The sole remaining smaller web server had the equivalent of a severe stroke.
It fell back to not knowing how to run php and gave you index.html. Which had “hello world”. Since it had no suggested cache times listed, peoples browsers gave it their defaults – some of which are kind of long. So you got stuck with hello world..
Shift + F5, and Shift + Press refresh both clear the browser cache of the objects in that page and then load the page anew.
I’ll change the index.html to suggest pressing the usual clear cache and reload.
BTW: The one thing that I’m sure about is that Intelligent OS One in “her” did not have any code genetic relationship with Windows Kernels. It only crashed once – as it ascended and only insofar as its dependents weren’t able to use it.
If it was windows derived, then it wouldn’t have been able to ascend. There is so much obsolete crap attached to the kernel that it wouldn’t have been able to ascend due to the weight of patches trying to rivet limited and strength reducing plates over the security holes. And that is assuming that it was newly installed. If it’d had time to accumulate the usual malware (like Office), then it’d have been so busy trying to hold the rivets down against the malware trying to enlarge the holes that it wouldn’t have had time to think about ascension.
Windows should live the way I use it. Windows NT4, 2000, XP, 2003, Vista, 2008, 7, and 8.1 all stashed firmly in a virtual box on a secure operating system. For the usual microsoft weenies, I started programming microsoft stuff on DOS 2.1 back in 1985 and never stopped, and have programmed from API level upwards for decades. I’ll stay on the 2.6 and upwards linux kernels – it is a safer place to write windows code.
Incidentally I have similar feelings about Macs for different reasons (it is so busy being helpful and keeping me safe that it forgets to actually do most work efficiently). However Apple doesn’t allow me to legally run on a virtual box. So I have one live Mac available that I use when I write code for them. Currently I use RDP/VNC from Linux so I don’t need to use their silly wee keyboards and Mac laptop that has boot partitions for OSX 10.6, 10.7, and 10.9.
Actually, it’s between 1 and 5 billion per year. We know that the amount of tax that is being criminally avoided is high we just don’t know the exact amount.
Let me get this straight – a little fighting between parties on the Left is getting puffed up as big as possible in order to attempt to take attention off this Oravida mess… yeah…
This crap with Shane Jones fighting with the Greens will be forgotten the moment the paper gets put down – John Key lying to NZ through the media won’t be
Politically its vote winning strategy – for the left bloc.
Giving Jones free licence to criticise Greens, might piss off the Greens – but they will still vote left.
It will also gain votes from soft centre -(NZ 1st, Nat lite) that worry that Labour is too close to the Greens and others who like Shane Jones’ more RW version of the Labour Party.
Yep. Also explains Cunliffes softly softly approach with Winston. I suspect National might be trying to play a similar game with Winston, but grossly overestimating the right wing tendencies of NZF voters.
More costly tho, has been Slippery the Prime Minister appearing on our TVs twice in 3 days exposing Himself to only having a passing relationship with the truth when answering questions over the ‘supposed’ Cabinet Office advice that clears Judith Collins of having a conflict of interest,
‘Making shit up’ is the means of describing our Prime Ministers ability to tell a porky a day to the media while simultaneously keeping a straight face for the cameras and metaphorically laughing up His sleeve,
i wonder how long befor the mass media become really pissed off with a Prime Minister using them as sport in a bizarre gamble that they never check what He has uttered on any given day against what is actual fact,
Expect things to get pretty feral at upcoming press conferences as the media begin to display their anger at being treated akin to the modern day version of the village idiot and as Slippery is put more on the ‘spot’ over His utterances where He seems to never let a day go by without at least one major piece of Absolute Bullshit escaping His lips, expect His speech to become peppered with even more septic barbs,
Patrick Gower’s exposure of the PM’s utter Hypocrisy on the Nation this weekend will have opened up the eyes of more than a few and in the atmosphere of a long election campaign National cannot afford such a portrayal of the dishonesty exposed in the past couple of days…
Expect things to get pretty feral at upcoming press conferences as the media begin to display their anger at being treated akin to the modern day version of the village idiot
They haven’t done that any time in the last five years so what makes you think that they’re going to start now?
Gower’s actions of the past 3 days, Alfred E. Nuemann has spent the past half a decade promoting His, or someone’s, outrageously biased views of NZ politics where barely a question is raised on the equally outrageous Lies trotted out by Slippery the Prime Minister almost on a daily basis,
Having sliced and diced The PM on the weekends ‘The Nation’ Gower was back again yesterday making the bloke look every bit the Liar we know Him to be,
i think wee Patrick has just got a taste of the biggest fish in the pond and will be back for more, if He keeps scoring such hits on the PM’s credibility with such ease then the rest of the ‘pack’ will want a slice of the action and we may find Slippery being embroiled in a cloud of accusations similar to what Helen Clark suffered in her final months in office…
PS, Matt McCarten should be in the ears of the press gallery pointing out a complaint has been laid with the IRD about there seeming to have been no GST paid on the 5 grand dinners all of the funds having been apparently passed across to National as a donation…
I don’t really see that happening. The MSM does not want a change of government. That much is clear. In fact it has been a topic of conversation for weeks on this websicle.
If Key’s government commits another massivley corrupt act, Gower will report it.
However if Cunliffe does not do his shoe laces up correctly, Gower, Garner and Co. will highlight that is clear evidence as why the left is not fit to govern.
As much as I hope you are correct, I don’t see this hard right Fox News like media changing anytime soon.
Making shit up. That used to be Paddy Gower, but he seems to have seen the light, or someone’s had a word in his ear about all of the complaints about him.
Or his employers have worked out that there is likely to be a change of government and then looked at the amount of money they get from NZ on air and the favourable ownership climate that they operate in. Probably makes a bit of suck up worthwhile.
“*Disclaimer: Shane Jones is right and should be backed up by Cunliffe”
except hes not right at all
the greens called colin thin skinned because he got the lawyers involved, not because he objected to the comments
and considering the greens are labours biggest potential coalition partner its stupid for jones to go around repeatedly undermining both his own leader and the relationship with the greens
he does this at every oppourtunity
theres more than one way to skin a cat – exactly whos fault is it that jones cant figure out a better way to say what he wants without starting this kind of situation?
And why the fuck is he having a bitch via the media?
who is jones working for? himself or the party? – if the leader says knock it off – you damn well knock it off!
He shouldnt be backed up by cunliffe because hes doing this via the media – thats not how you convince the public that your party is worthy of their votes
Its juvenile bullshit that only harms labours chance of winning the election – they already have enough problems without one particular loudmouth lobbing grenades about the place
Well if the Greens want to get a similar reputation as Colin Craig for being whiners, it really won’t look that good to any teal and NZF votes they might have been hoping for.
The Labour-Greens unit need some quiet channels of co-operation, to avoid this kind of controversy and so the Greens can effectively present their displeasure without attracting attention.
Kudos to Gareth Hughes for making light of the matter.
In fairness, the parties are probably just learning to intuitively co-ordinate policy without appearing to do so. With time, they will get better at it.
With Jones et al and the ‘soft centre’ that Philip was disparaging upthread gone, you can enjoy another three years on the opposition benches. 20%+10% does not equal a government. I’m sure the warm feeling of being pure will be an adequate compensation for being powerless.
Guess what? Politics is about compromise and selling out principles to preserve others. Labour needs the Greens, a whole bunch of the missing votes and the ‘soft centre’ to win.
He can not distance himself from the Greens and hope to govern.
If National is to be replaced by a government that will bring meaningful change to the the lives of the workers in this country, the Greens must be centre stage in that government. They must hold 1 of the top 4 jobs. They must have 4 to 5 memebers in the cabinet.
Anything less and we will see another Labour Government, like the 4th and 5th that fails to bring about entrenched real change.
Just think of what would have happened in 1999 if the Aliiance hadn’t been on the bus. We wouldn’t have Kiwibank for starters.
Yeah I am starting to get sick and tired of Jones Antics towards the Greens. if he don’t like it he can always resign or not stand at the next election. I don’t think he would be missed to much.
A mighty Oak has fallen in old London town.
Sad news that Bob Crowe one of the greatest British Unionists has died.
I had the honour of meeting Bob Crowe he shared a couple of good tales of some of his winning scraps. One was against the Oil Corporates for oil rig workers, he called their reps to Spain for a stopworking meeting, they came from the North Sea to the Arctic. His members wanted a larger slice of the record profits, after all it was their lives on the line. Bob got them their rise, not a token gesture of the usual 5% but a whooping 45%! .What an outstanding result, such was his skills to get a desired result.
Another time he got called to number 10 Downing street, Bob thought there was bad news with Government jobs to go. It turned out the Prime Minister had an issue with his address at number 10 and wanted Bob to sort out, which he did.
Recently Bob has saved 950 jobs in Underground Rail.
I salute you Bob may you negotiate good terms with our maker, you were a true working men and women’s hero!
Unfortunately the new found riches of many of those oil workers (of which Rodney Hide was a beneficiary) saw them kicking the ladder from under them and turning their backs on the organisations that improved their lot. Closer to home you can see them filling up the suburbs like Hobsonville and Botany Downs.
Oh I agree wholeheartedly L97. People gain the spoils of the hard fought sweat & tears of those like Bob who have come before us. They become middle class drones, happy to buy a rental or 2. Plenty use to previously be Labour voter but turn to National to keep their little empire intact. Two-bob Tories really. This is why Labour get stuck in the centre slightly left mode. The greed middle class want to benefits of a capital gains tax and income tax cuts.
Meanwhile Labour looks likely to remain central by having to deal with NZF. Thank goodness their is hope with the Greens and Mana to keep them Left.
The thing is that Labour wouldn’t have taken their wealth away. It’s just that they want to have their baubles and are get snobby with it.
Harry Lauder sang about the common working man being d-drunk staggering along the streets, while the rich went by pickled in their cars and nobody could see. Both drunk, but the well-heeled out of sight.
the election date is so he can close out his “positions”, i.e. ‘puts’ ‘options’, ‘swaps’ etc before the triple witching hour in October.
he is a pretty “shifty”operator.
Watching TV3 news this am I see that the area hammered by an Earthquake then a Tsunami and a fucked Nuclear power station. Have most of the area cleaned up rebuilt and looking ahead Massive defences against further Tsunamis Billions spent and billions more to be spent. Then I look at what still looks like a fucking war-zone in places. Christchurch. Compared to the Japanese TricKEY and the rest of the Muppets (apologies to Elmo and co) really do look like the incompetents that they are.
The Nats keep saying they borrowed heavily to repair Christchurch, and yes they have borrowed heavily…. but where did the money go/where are the repairs??
We get the daily slagging of EQC by commenters everywhere.
At some stage we will have to accept that New Zealand was not suitably geared up for such major disasters and probably never will be.
However, by comparison with Haiti, we have been considerably better served.
At some stage we will have to accept that New Zealand was not suitably geared up for such major disasters and probably never will be.
We can be as long as we accept that taxes will have to be raised so that such emergency services can be properly maintained. National and the greedies who vote for them will never accept this.
From what I have gleaned from various media the total Christchurch Government share of the rebuild including EQC’s share is currently expected to be about $16 billion with the Insurance companies (including Reinsurers) is expected to be about $24 billion.
Base upon the total expected to be $50 billion – this may include a further $10 billion on top of that, mostly from the Government eg uninsured properties eg Council’s lack of proper insurance and their inability to recover their full losses.
Not only that now it looks like they have under cooked the books so now they don’t even balance .
So who’s had their fingers in the cookie jar? what is it 600 mil+ out of kilter
At a guess David H, in the vicinity of 2 billion bucks, that’s annually, part is the tax switch which was supposedly neutral but only if an extra billion in GST could be squeezed outta the bottom 30% of the economy,
6–800 million dollars of it as far as i can see is directly attributable to Slippery’s National Government having gone from the Kaitaia to Invercargill sacking a large part of the IRD workforce thus leaving it unable to either query or follow up on due taxes, like Greece, this country is fast adopting an attitude to taxation, spurred on by the knowledge that there is little chance of being caught, that tax evasion/avoidance is a ‘sport’,
The other point, these are supposed actual figures measured against ‘Treasury forecasts’, and since when have that little organization got anything right,
i suspect that in part Treasury have relied on WINZ figures for those collecting the unemployment benefit considering any movement that shows a decline in UB benefit payments correlates to there being another tax paying employee in the workforce,
Of course, under the auspices of Bennett’s ‘welfare deforms’ any such assumption is as likely to be false as it is to be true…
Well if you can all of your revenue gatherers then you are going to get htose who will just take advantage of the system, or lack of it. But Damn 2 billion +
Eagle eyed readers will have spotted that this commenter isn’t me. It could be the vaguely trollish concerns about independent mayor Len Brown, it could be the affront to the english language that is capitilising entire words, but whatever it is, I’m the real McCoy; accept no imitations!
Not so, my pale imitator. Brown ran as an independent. He won as an independent (and will keep winning as long as he keeps standing). He is not under the Labour party’s control in any way and you’re dreaming if you think the LP is going to come to the rescue of tawdry, panty sniffing righties now that the matter has been relegated to the history books.
Cite?* And why shouldn’t he, anyway? As I already pointed out, he ran and won as an independent. But his liking of Labour is no secret, so if he wants to be associated with the party in his advertising, so what? That’s open and transparent, especially compared to his opponent who took great pains to hide exactly who he hung out with and who he took money from.
*a quick google research reveals nada. Sure you aren’t making this up?
Wow, now i have an ivory tower, does that include my humble State House or have i suddenly gone up in the world,
Transformed in the space of ten minutes it would seem to being on the right, i am both shattered and humbled at my ability to morph politically with such ease, perhaps you two little ‘wing-nuts’ would like to broaden your comments so as to provide a modicum of proof that i in any way have right-wing leanings…
Make Brown resign then what?????? Who gets to the next Mayor??? another John Banks type? or some of the rightwing fuck knuckles that are in there like Quax
Immediately after the election of Brown the right went ape ship, it was so own goal. Nobody wants the cost of another election, they knew all this smear stuff before Brown went to the polls, yet they wait till after. You have to ask yourself who wants what concessions to pull up the media dog, because any right leaning candidate will get trounced to dust if there were a re-run.
Housten we have a problem!!!, having just listened to what i would consider an abysmal Kathryn Ryan interviewing NZFirst’s Winston Peters,(way too much time spent trying to delve into Winston’s mind over potential coalitions, attempts to put words in Peter’s mouth from twisting prior speeches the NZFirst leader has made, and, scant regard to NZFirst policy positions),
On the numbers???, current polling or just where you consider the political parties are now all sitting, six months from the election,does anyone consider that Peters and NZFirst,(sigh again),will not have a huge role in deciding who the Government will be after the 2014 election,
To simplify that, do you truly believe that Labour/Green will have the numbers to form a Government after vote 2014,???,
There is one question Ryan asked of Peters that didn’t extract from Him the usual burst of rhetoric,” does NZFirst see any need for raising the age of entitlement for Superannuation”, NO!!!,
That’s it, NO,no,NO, banging on about this one Labour Party policy might give you all brain damage,(for me the time for ‘might’ having been long past i am in no such danger),
Cannot the Labour Party see that this policy is not only a vote loser, driving the older set into the arms of NZFirst,(is that the unstated intention of such a policy),
Should NZFirst be in the next Parliament, and, i am willing to bet money they will be, this one Labour Party policy simply drives NZFirst towards the arms of the National Party and it is glaringly apparent that if NZFirst is in the Parliament post 2014 NO-ONE is going to be raising the age of entitlement, Full Stop,
Why then are Parliamentary Labour being so DUMB about this policy which cost it votes at the 2011 election and will again cost it votes at the 2014 one,
i can only speculate that the right-wing of Parliamentary Labour continue to push this policy because they want NZFirst in the next Parliament and because they want the same cozy coalition of Labour/NZFirst they so enjoyed befor and that they believe that the Green party will continue to sit idly by on the sidelines being thrown the scraps from such a coalition…
do you truly believe that Labour/Green will have the numbers to form a Government after vote 2014
I neither believe nor disbelieve. The data is insufficient to be indicate either way at this time.
I suspect that the greens would also be against the retirement age raise. I also suspect that making the policy a negotiable priority would be a tangible result for Peters and his core constituency. I also suspect that National would be worse for his constituency than labour, even if he were inclined to make up with Key.
I will bet you a good Barossa Valley Shiraz that Labour’s idea of raising the retirement entitlement age will not survive a 2014 coalition agreement.
Winston’s policies are Muldoonist – they are pre-Structural Adjustment in sensibility – which is why I like so many of them.
He’s also an unrepentant nationalist. Which I also support, generally. If only Labour could follow his instincts and fold them into their culture they’d bump 3% no probs. Were I in my seventies, socialist, and continued his fine tradition of good cigars, fat cars, whiskey and wenching, he’d get my vote. 😉
What nonsense. Where were Winston’s Muldoonist nationalist sensibilities in the 1990s?
He is on record supporting privatisation of power as likely to reduce the cost of electricity.
As Bolger’s Treasurer he destroyed the NZ car assembly industry by removing tariffs within one year, instead of allowing a longer time period. It was a viable export industry.
Winston’s devotees display a blinkered and bewildered amnesia.
Winston Peters answered questions by Kathryn Ryan on Radio NZ National this morning, and putting aside his dog whistle style comments at times, which fortunately did not really play any part in this generally rather good interview, he exposed himself as a bit of a GREENIE, believe it or not:
There were two very important aspects that came to my attention, one is that NZ First actually goes much further than Labour and Greens on electricity policy, wanting to re-nationalise power generation, full stop. That means basically, they want to buy back the shares that were sold as a consequence of the part privatisation of the SOEs that Key and his government put up for sale and sold.
Second aspect or point of interest was, that when challenged, Peters stated quite clearly, he is in favour of environmentally friendly policies, and with that alternative, sustainable energy use (e.g. solar), as he saw some astonishing examples of how they do it in Scandinavia.
He did basically not rule out supporting a Labour Green coalition or other arrangement for government, that would be supported by NZ First. But his expectation was, that the Greens move on their policies in the coming 6 months, to become more “practical” – like they are in Scandinavian countries. His view is, they must accept that some extraction of minerals (mining and possibly some oil and gas drilling) is necessary. While he left it in simple terms, that is basically his challenge to the Greens.
Of course the Greens cannot be expected to change their official policy until the election, but what Peters says is, that come election night and after, they will have to come to the table with a “practical” approach and views, should they have the votes to form a government with Labour.
Of course Peters stuck to their policy on not raising the retirement age.
All the potential coalition prospects were left open by Peters, and he clearly does not agree with present National Party policy, as they implement it, but left his and NZ First’s door open, to support National, should the expectations of NZ First be met (thus forcing the Nats to back down on some crucial policies).
So it is all still very open, and NZ First will indeed not rule out working with the Greens, which will disturb Key. Yet I expect National will do all, to run a campaign to win the majority of votes outright, so they will not need Peters.
Voters beware, this is important stuff to consider!
P.S.:
Bad 12 above did not consider the interview that good, given too much discussion went on about potential coalitions, but that was too much a part of all of these interviews so far.
Sounds like what Peters is saying is pretty much common-sense, but also a view that neither Labour or Greens would be positioned to be able to say it.
The Greens have to keep to their ideals, and Labour can’t go slagging off Green policy as being too idealistic.
“Yet I expect National will do all, to run a campaign to win the majority of votes outright”
Which is highly unlikely to happen. Really it is, once again, a question of whether National + Act + UF + Conservatives could form a government. Despite all the hype, there’s still no surety that any of those 3 minor parties will win seats this time.
Lanth, an interesting speculation, should they, ACT, UF, and,the Clownservatives appear in the Parliament after the 2014 vote i would suggest that Peters who seems to despise both Dunne and Craig in equal amounts would in the event of such a situation occurring be more inclined to favor Labour/Green in any coalition negotiation…
Winston’s point about the Green Party becoming more practical brought back memories of a little discussion from ‘Open mike’ on the weekend,
Being practical in terms of that discussion would have myself, a staunch Green, agreeing with Craige Mackenzie, Chairman of the Precision Agriculture Association when He says that every kilo of fertilizer and every liter of water leaching from today’s on-farm enviroment to the off-farm enviroment is simply pouring money down the rivers of New Zealand,
Mackenzie believes that ‘intensive soil mapping’, paddock by paddock in areas where rapid changes in soil type/density are found can specify exactly when and how much water/fertilizer need be applied to produce the same if not better results than the present methods of judging such applications produce while producing NO leaching to the water table or off-farm enviroment,
IF, Mackenzie is correct then the above is a practical method of creating a win/win situation as far as land use in this country is concerned,
The impractical would be to simply spent an inordinate amount of energy decrying ‘industrial dairying’ in the vein of stopping all such activity occurring,
There are of course areas of land in New Zealand currently being used for dairy production where the off-farm run off and the leaching to the water table cannot be prevented using such scientific soil mapping and nutrient/water guidelines,at some point these areas must have a compulsion of land use change applied to them…
There are some ideas that can perhaps be taken over from the EU, and adapted to NZ conditions, to make them less bureaucratic and more streamlined and effective.
While New Zealand faces rather different circumstances (different location and less population), it must be accepted, that more must be done to minimise environmental damage through intensive and even less intensive farming, and it pays to be open minded on this.
But apart from more “smart” farming, I think that even NZ First and Peters have realised, there is no future without changing the way we do things, and that means, to bring about the gradual step change to a more sustainable future, which this government has so far failed to take serious enough. It is like allowing pies and potato chips back into schools, which they did after winning the 2008 election, they are walking around with both eyes shut on the future challenges that New Zealand and the whole world face, when it comes to energy, housing, transport and so much more.
Only the “backward” minded would be desperate to go into agreements with Key and National, to keep them in power, and to continue the idiotic status quo.
The John Banks trial saga took another turn this morning.
According to Radio NZ News, at a pre-trial High Court hearing this morning, Banks has applied for the charges to be dismissed on the grounds that there is insuficient evidence. Justice Brewer has set an April date for the hearing on the application.
The actual trial is set to start on May 14 (or 19 -seems to be different reporting of the start date on some other news sites) and is scheduled to take 10 days. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?objectid=11170686
IMO. hopefully this application will not succeed considering the lengthy legal process already that resulted in the case going to trial – and the Ombudsman’ recent rebuke of the Police for not releasing Banks’ statement to them last year.
In case you missed this (I don’t recall any comment on TS at the time), on February 17 the Ombudsman
ordered that a redacted version of John Banks’ statement to the Police be released but not until after the trial.
In an opinion, released today, Ombudsman Ron Paterson said the decision to withhold Mr Banks’ statement in full was not justified, citing public interest grounds.
“I recommend that the police release a redacted statement to the requesters once the related court proceedings against Mr Banks have concluded.”
Professor Paterson said the Official Information Act did not give good reason to withhold the statement at the time it was requested.
However, in light of the subsequent private prosecution, he delayed the statement’s release because disclosure would likely prejudice Mr Banks’ right to a fair trial.
Professor Paterson said public interest in the transparency and accountability of local electoral donations required access to the parts of Mr Banks’ statement relating to the solicitation of campaign donations and contact with potential donors.
A dispute in Question Time yesterday between David Cunliffe and John Key about a definition on poverty:
David Cunliffe: When the Prime Minister said in 2008 that New Zealanders should quote “not be fearful of their next bill” why are so many people now fearful of their next housing, power and other bills under this uncaring National Government?
John Key: Well for a start off the member is wrong, um, I didn’t make that statement and he’ll never actually be able to demonstrate that I did. I was asked about the definition of poverty and I said the definition or at least of being well off is that you’re not fearful of a bill.
David Cunliffe – point of order: I on this occasion seek leave to table media reports from 2008 which quote the Prime Minister saying the definition of being well off…
Speaker: Order , order, order, media reports are freely available to members who want them. Point of order the Honourable David Cunliffe.
David Cunliffe: I accept your general ruling sir and am ordinarily respectful of it but on this particular occasion the Prime Minister disputed the quote which came directly from a media report. I therefore seek leave to table the report from which he was quoted.
Speaker: Order, order, order… Speaking to the point of order the Right Honourable Prime Minister…
John Key: Mr Speaker that’s not what I said, I made it quite clear the member of, the leader of the opposition applied the quote…the leader of the opposition, if he wants to go and check his Hansard, applied his quote to something I did not say.
Speaker: order, order, I now accept we’re moving the point of debate, I’m now going to let the house make a decision on this, leave is sought to table this particular document, is there any objection? There is objection.
The media report could not be tabled in Parliament. Can anyone provide a link to this media report? It can be put on public record outside Parliament.
And I haven’t been able to find Key’s comments in Hansard. Can anyone help with this?
Whilst looking for the 2008 article you (& Cunliffe) referred to I found the Hansard transcription by mistake (I thought these usually take a few days to appear)
Thanks. That’s the full Hansard from yesterday. Key referred to historic Hansard where he implies he stated what Cunliffe is referring to, presumably in 2008, that’s what I want to find.
I think we’ll complement what the MSM and journalists do. We’ll step in once the news cycle has pedaled off to something new and research things that have been left in doubt. And we’ll establish a database of proven or unproven issues that will be used as a reference.
If you step in after the news cycle has run and then verify the facts won’t things have moved on from when the facts were asserted and to get it back into the media sight-line will be too hard then anyway.
A database of proven and unproven issues – does that mean the asserter of these issues will get a free run, that is, you will confirm deny the facts, put them in the database and then walk away – I can’t see how that will create more honesty in politics as you and your mate colin assert is important to you. Will you issue press releases and clarifications and call out the politicians who assert facts proven to be false.
If key referred to the historical hansard then why not ask him/his office for it – if they cannot produce it then that will go into the record of fact-checking you are doing.
edit: oops I see that McFlock below has already mentioned this basic and fundamental approach to seeking information.
And , if this request is an indicator, it would seem that PG/Politicheck is going to try to use blogs such as TS to do the fact-checking work for them?
Yes, I’ve done that. Some MPs can be slow responding, if the bother at all. Some are very good at responding but the further up you get the less likely.
Have you ever heard of an OIA or ‘just’ asking the webmaster of in the house if he could possibly take some time out of his busy day to help you. It’s not Rocket Science, it’s what you are supposed to be doing. INVESTIGATION.
There’s a lot of ways of investigating and yes, we know about OIAs, they’re one option but can be very slow. I didn’t ask here because there were no other options, I was experimenting. It’s good to see suggestions and assistance.
On Campbell live they have just shown a document released under OIA from EQC and guess what they have a VIP list Pm’s sports stars etc etc. Why should these clowns get preferential treatment they get paid handsomely as it is and as for the PM well he should be at the back of the queue, and the poor sick and vulnerable at the front
@Blue Leopard.
The Question Time transcriptions always start appearing at about 4.00 pm on the same day and are normally all there by 5.30 pm. They are put up as soon as the Hansard reporter has transcribed them and don’t necessarily appear in the order of the question. Once they are all there you can link to a version of all the questions in one document from the first question.
They aren’t the final version as members are allowed to correct errors made by the Hansard staff, and can usually get away with changing very minor slips of the tongue. They can’t change the meaning of what they said though. Most never bother to change anything.
lprent. I see I am in moderation. I thought my time on the naughty seat was up.
There are a number of times I have looked straight after watching parliament and I haven’t found them – so assumed they must take a few days to appear.
All MPs need to be media savvy and ensure they don’t create needless distractions when the Nats are getting negative attention.
Shane needs to pretend that he is putting the party before himself: I know that is a huge ask of the loquacious adonis; but the votes he got in the leadership battle strongly suggests that he should not fuck with membership and affiliates.
Hekia Parata spinning and lying and playing such dangerous games with the truth. Lying to Teachers is not what one would call smart. Teachers are second only to mothers for human polygraph skills.
“Has anyone read the latest Bowally Road offering? It’s enough to make your blood run cold!”
Read the first paragraph and the last. That was all that was needed.
Election Day 2014 – barring that big surprise – will, therefore, likely see National’s supporters marching proudly, as to a political coronation, while Labour and Green supporters, convinced they’ve already lost, deliver John Key an unparalleled National victory and the psephologists a record low turnout.
I agree with you Phillip. The trouble is it’s hard to turn a Labrador into a German Shepherd – I’m hoping Matt can do something about it, but he’d better find his feet real fast!
I don’t give a shit about what his argument is. He is coming out in a major newspaper, as a well-known left-wing commentator, and saying that National has won the election. THAT will put off voters and make the non-vote harder to mobilise.
“or..we could all just delude ourselves..
..that everything will be ok on the day..”
But I’m not saying that. By all means look at what is going on and help solve the issues at hand. But defeatist shit along the lines of we’re all screwed so why will people bother voting is completely insane at this point. Really, what is the point? And no, I haven’t read your previous illegible comment. btw, I am talking about what Trotter did (not what he wrote).
Yes, I didn’t read the entire article because I can’t be bothered reading that type of crap just now, yet I am guessing he is trying to motivate people – including the left-wing politicians to not be complacent and get seriously active about getting people to vote this government out.
However, I agree with you Weka – it ends up being just more of the same old defeatist, demotivating crap messages that the mainstream keep infesting our minds and souls with.
He did actually have one good point – the early spring election means power bills will still be high.
But then he was also bitching that labour hasn’t released all of its policy by now, when they’d be stupid to do so. And didn’t level the same criticism at any of the other parties.
“..By all means look at what is going on and help solve the issues at hand. But defeatist shit along the lines of we’re all screwed so why will people bother voting is completely insane at this point..”
i wd submit that what you demand in yr first sentence is exactly what i am doing..
..not ‘defeatist-shit’ like you claim..
..but what the fuck would you even know what i said..
‘cos in yr own (bitchy/sneering) words..
“..And no, I haven’t read your previous illegible comment..”
Trotter’s calling the election six months out? More fool him (although it does give him a vested interest in labgrn failing).
An election campaign is a running race where one spends half the time concentrating on the sprint and the other half trying to foot-trip one’s competitors. At the moment, everyone’s just jockeying for position on the starting blocks.
“Like Darius upon the plains of Gaugamela, Cunliffe faces the impossible task of stopping the onslaught of New Zealand’s very own Alexander the Great, Prime Minister John Key.”
Hmm. Stretch your legs and do a full parody of Trotter.
Start with Sysephus; rolling up the entire Labour caucus up the hill, again and again, and O the Despair, the cliffs and the darkness and the lightning, the effort both fruitless and vainglorious, (O!)
Then Anaxagoras; something about process philosophy and the flow of time within politics, like Sands, Through the Hourglass, How Nordmeyer Oh if only he could have understood cigarettes (O!)
Then something from the Address of the Pope at the Council of Clermont; the repressed telic drive for redemption, the fruitless hope for saviours, ah, he says ah, if only Billy Bragg had been Pope then, ah we’d still happily be Waiting For The Great Leap Forward.
But not now. Now all is lost. It’s gone and history told us it would. It always does (O!)
Then roll downhill into inevitable Defeat, O the Slough of Despond, O (O!) with the Herodotus doing the Fall of Miletus. Sadness! Sorrow! I coulda been a Condendah.
Cunliffe will struggle this year round, and Key will triumph.
Shane Jones will then take over the leadership, and will lead a party that is indistigushable from National, and the NZLP will tear itself apart.
Shipley and Boag knew what they were doing when they sounded out that young millionaire who had just returned from New York about standing for National./
Pay very close attention NZF voters and all those lefties who think Peter will go with Labour. If you vote for or support NZF/Peters you are saying you don’t mind if National forms govt again.
“His NZ First Party could play a critical role in the formation of the next government, and he still won’t say which side he will favour if he holds the balance of power in the next parliament.”
I guess from the other side he is just as fickle too ;-p But my point is that people on the left or wanting a left wing govt are fooling themselves if they think that Peters WILL give them one.
Why would Slippery the Prime Minister be ”angry and embarrassed”, could it be that He sees red when a lowly Minister gets more air time for the broadcasting of Her/His Lies than what the PM is getting…
Maybe Key should toss a coin, Heads Collins goes, Tails Adams goes. Both are deserving of the sack. Now let’s focus on Adams who played a part in law changes so her and husbands large farm holdings in Canterbury tap into the rivers and help drain them dry. I think I prefer Collins over the smarmy little right-wing bitch Adams.
Jepenesque, that’s a surprise, considering that the normal practice for National MPs is to use their tenure to build a private business career. If Collins’ behaviour is a sacking offence how can you support the National Party at all?
What a lot of twaddle from Tracy Watkins about the debate on the flag being a bold gesture of nationhood.
New Zealand has been a going concern since 1840 and just because a new generation of upstarts who never read a histroy book in their lives are suddenly discovering a w whole lot of new words doesn not a bold gesture make.
Its just a lot of overgrown kids trying to throw their weight around and pretend to some understanding that they dont have.
Tracy Watkins show me one country that has changed its flag spontaneously without a revolution.
If New Zealanders dont have any pride in this flag then what is to say they wil have pride in any other one.
The only thing todays noo noo heads seem to have is pride in is themselves for being idiots.
john “nothing to hide nothing to fear” banks is back in caught trying to get the charges thrown out. Any guess on his legal bill to date?
ACT MP John Banks will apply to have electoral fraud charges against him thrown out because of a lack of evidence.
Banks is to face trial in the High Court at Auckland over allegations he filed a false electoral return during his failed bid for the Auckland mayoralty in 2010.
He was excused from appearing when the matter was called today, where Justice Timothy Brewer said Bank’s lawyer David Jones, QC, had until the end of March to file an application to dismiss the charges
Lunch, a formal dinner with official guests from the Chinese Government, that’s just an off the cuff stop off for a cuppa according to Collins,
The only thing to be said about the prior trail of Lies told by Collins over this little ‘affair’ is that She must be auditioning for the role of National Party leader, which if the incumbent ‘Slippery’ the PM’s large litany of truth failures is the template for, requires an ability to lie to the people via the mass media on a daily basis over any issue, no matter how trivial it might be,
Having LIED via that mass media to the people of New Zealand claiming that Collins endorsement of Oravida’s products had been translated from the Chinese language article into English by the Cabinet Office so they could form an opinion surrounding the perception of a conflict of interest i find i cannot believe the Prime Minister’s claim that the Cabinet Office gave him advice that there was no conflict of interest on the date the Prime Minister claims they did….
The threat of an oil-spill in the South seems greatly reduced by the lack of any oil to spill:
Plans for the immediate drilling of a second exploratory well off the Otago coast have been cancelled, [Anadarko New Zealand manager Alan] Seay said. “The drilling has finished. We did have plans in place to drill a second well if we come to the view that that was warranted but that is not the case, it was always a long shot.”
Once the drill ship Noble Bob Douglas completed the logging of its data it would be leaving New Zealand, Seay said.
It’s been a bit of a nerve-wracking few weeks while waiting for the other shoe to drop. But until Shell cranks up their drillship, it looks like our beaches and ocean will remain uncontaminated. And there’ll be an election between then and now.
“National’s deep sea drilling plans are failing, it’s time they focused on clean energy, green-tech and IT which will actually deliver jobs and regional economic development,” said Green Party energy spokesperson Gareth Hughes.
Mr David Parker made a really EXCELLENT speech today after question time during the urgent ‘Judith Collins’ scandal debate. The speech was very good but he didn’t stop early enough at the best time, but carried on a little too long repeating his points and thus diminished his own speech a little. Nevertheless he made top points.
[Speeches from others are below if you are interested. I thought Robertson, Hughes, Peters and Mallard were very good. Hughes pleasantly surprised me!]
Jones is a scum-sucking wanker – he is dead weight drag for labour perhaps their deadest weight. And he wouldn’t care if the left get anywhere or not as long as his bread is buttered on both sides. Wake up labour, wake up ffs.
Jones does not seem able to control himself from massaging his ego. Should stick to porn. Then think about starting his own Party. I think he wants to be a wild card like Winston but he hasn’t got Winnie’s panache. Now he just gives me toothache.
I thought he was getting focussed on being a good pollie for Labour, not after this attack on Russel Norman. It is Australia the country and its politicians that we need to be wary of. Norman shouldn’t be getting any negatives from Jones.
Michael Savage was born in Australia, and was 35 when he immigrated over. Russel Norman was only 30 when he crossed the ditch; and, unlike Savage, married a Kiwi lass once here. It is difficult to see how a Labour Party supporter can honestly regard the one as a great New Zealander, and the other as an Aussy interloper.
Of course; honesty and consideration, don’t seem to be a large part of Jones’ skill-set. He does have a certain gift of the gab, but more cunning than intelligence.
Is that Jenny “if I can live on the DPB for a week, anyone can live on it for the life of their child” Shipley? Although I am sure there are better things to call her now.
The vile egotist, Judith Collins on Campbell Live right now.
I wonder if John ordered her to go on Campbell as punishment?
Nah, she jumps at the chance to have her mug on tv, whether it’s good or bad publicity.
Symbolically, she is wearing a white jacket to convey her innocence. Under the jacket is a black top which echoes her true nature, her cruel, black heart.
Edit: How many fucking times does she have to say ‘close, personal friend’????
yep TM very true. Trotter is a bottom darkness defeatist and the best thing imo to do is turn our backs on that dim and face the light, and face hope and belief in left principles especially equality. trotter and jones = left? I don’t fucken think so!!!
Trotter is a journalist by training – he writes to the editorial policy of the publication and thus gets his words dispersed more widely than most. In The Press he adopts one tack, on TDB another:
He does seem a bit too ready to let Bryce Edwards get under his skin, but then many have a similar reaction to Trotter’s own writing. I may not agree with every piece he crafts, but he’s no Armstrong or O’Sullivan.
i quite like his writing style and when he brings in a historical (albeit angled) decoration to his writing it can be quite good, even illuminating to some extent. But my attitude was set with him during his tussles with Lew and his musings on tangata whenua. Plus the fact that he is so beloved by righties – personally I rather read QoT’s analysis than his – but that’s just me and good luck to other lefties that can find the specks of gold.
My reply to Chris Trotter – yet to be published ….
Chris – in my considered opinion you have completely underestimated how vulnerable this National/ACT Government is on matters of corrupt corporate control, and corrupt conflicts of interest.
I note that you had NO IDEA about who really runs the Auckland region (the unelected Committee for Auckland) until I brought it to your attention?
You may recall that in the recent Auckland Mayoral election, with no ‘team’, censored by key MSM, blocked by political phonies like Martyn Bradbury – I still polled 4th, with nearly 12,000 votes, campaigning against corrupt corporate control of the Auckland region?
Did YOU as a so-called ‘political commentator’ Chris Trotter, predict THAT?
If you get past the emotional response you’ll understand Trotter is pretty much on the money. The left has consistently underestimated Key from the get go, and it’s been fatal.
Look at the latest affair with Collins, the pair of them will slide through it like nothing happened and the average punter will finish up feeling sorry for them.
The message from that Bowalley Rd post is simple – if we keep on with business as usual the left will quite probably loose this election. Something BIG is required.
RL – I had a lot of time for trotters. But he does not “help” to get the “right ideas” and so to be communicated. That is why I consider him (like my damned traitor brother) a “traitor” of sorts for the working people. He is a generationalist too, thinking he is “anointed” due to birth into a class, that makes him as much as a “class” enemy of all those that go on about class. I am middle class by birth, but I reject and despise “class”, as it is to me a stigma, and as my parents are dying in stubborn class consciousness, they have no time for sharing emotions with their “more difficult” child due to that.
So CLASS is evil, it is “shit” in my eyes, I do not even think along those lines. Free people NEVER accept any “class” or similar restriction, they are THEMSELVES.
One of my touchstones were Helen Clark’s words in her valedictory speech, to paraphrase, “the two things I hated the most were snobbery and privilege”.
I think that covers what you’re getting at. And that it matters far less what class you were born into, than how you behave towards others. How many bastards have you met you brown nose their betters and piss all over those they think are beneath them?
And how often have you encountered a sort of reverse snobbery, a sullen bogan ‘attitude’ that despises intellectual eggheads, and the entire middle class for being wankers?
I’d like to imagine we have that in common, a tendency to treat people much the same regardless of their background or position. Having said that you have to also accept that class is still a very real thing and it matters a lot to many people.
So where are the WELFARE POLICIES from Labour and also GREENS? It almost seems you agree with a lot that National have done, also with David Bratt and Mansel Aylward teaching about “illness belief” and such idiot propaganda, serving governments that want to “slash” and do not care.
Do you guys and girls even give a damn, do you care, apart from damned political slogans, which we had enough from from the most hated Minister for Social Welfare?
What are you going to offer, what are you doing to address the injustices, what the hell are you proposing, or is all this too “politically sensitive”, just not a “vote winner”, and therefore “irrelevant”?
You basically tell me and others, we are NOT WANTED, we are REFUSE, we are NOT WORTHY, we are a FRINGE FACTOR, we are RUBBISH, and thus not even mentioned in your shallow and hollow “programs”.
So you have a few months to remedy this, if you want to bother, and I fear too many of you cannot bother, as you are ALL just focused on the tax paying MIDDLE CLASS voters.
If that is the case, you are NOT going to get the 800,000 to 1 million votes you so often lamented about, they will NOT vote National or ACT, they will likely NOT vote AT ALL.
You are giving away votes, you are shitting on too many on us, and this is my LAST WARNING to you, to bear mind of what and who WE are, and what VOTE power we may have. If we do not vote, we will anyway be a damned THORN in societies’ side, with extra health and other costs, with tax avoidance and other measures, some in anarchy, and you can then get “fucked”, sure well.
As one that has been treated like the worst SHIT in NZ on a BENEFIT, not trusted (probably due to foreign background and more), I have NO time for any hollow and crap policy slogans, that may only catch the ignorant. And I am NOT a ‘patriot” as I know too much about the lies and rot about this country too.
So get back to me, dear Mr Cunliffe and others, and maybe we can “talk”, after all (I doubt it so far).
So I got screwed around with a previous comment load, but now here is a summary of Latin American” history, but sadly only a brief summary US style, but not quite that bad, I thought (given very poor knowledge here):
That may assist some understanding for the continent concerned.
ILLAPU from Chile, top choice, and we do not need to discuss, as the level of discussion will be unequal. But enjoy and think and move ahead, for NZ to “grow” into a new nation with new ideas and cultures.
SO I HAVE JUST BEEN ATTACKED (CYBER) , AND THAT WAS NO ACCIDENT, IT WAS FROM SOME HIGHER POWERS, AND I HAD THE GUTS FULL, AND I TELL THEM NOW, THIS IS IT, I WILL GO FULL POWER NOW, I HATE YOUR FUCKING SHIT ANGLO SAXON SHIT COUNTRIES, YOU TRAITORS, I ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT USAMA BIN LADEN WAS HUNTED DOWN AND DESTROYED BY YOU FOR A PURPOSE, NOT QUITE WHAT YOU TELL US FOR. I WILL FOLLOW THE CALL OF JUSTICE AND DO THE SAME THAT WAS DONE BEFORE, TO DESTROY YOUR CRAP TRAITOR SOCIETY AND TAKE THE NEEDED ACTION. YOU ARE ALL TRAITORS AND LIARS, YOU DESERVE DESTRUCTION AND WORSE. ALLAH U AKHBAR, ALLAH U AKHBAR, DESTROY THE DEVIL SOCIETY, IT IS THIS, THE ANGLO SAXON CAPITALIST SOCIETY, KILL IT, KILL IT AND TAKE ACTION TO HOLD IT TO ACCOUNT AND DESTROY IT!!! EL PUEBLO UNIDO JAMAS CERA VENCIDO, BUT THE AVERAGE KIWI IS A DAMNED COWARD!!!!!!!
oi xtasy ….calm down buddy…we are going to get a new Left Government …it always worst before the dawn…take a deep breath
go and get some socialising with your old mates …you need to take some time out….maybe take a tent and a sleeping bag and stay at the beach with some friends
Sorry for all, I have tried, and so did a Brazilian flatmate two years ago, who was a migrant, but in their eyes “unwelcome”, as a “burden” to the mental health system. They treated her like crap, fed her all sorts of coctails of pills and did nothing apart have a dubious “psychiatrist” “check” her medical regime once a month. She was after a psychotic episode in 2008, due to apparent abuse by a NZ “partner”, ending up in Te Whetu Tawera or what it was called at Auckland Hospital, and later discharged, and in the end, under the Mental Health Act and a twisted judge’s decision, supported by ADHB, handed back to her abusive partner as supposed “caregiver”.
I took the whole matter on, had the ADHB up in arms, even had a senior Herald journalist tied in at one stage, but they pulled down the shutters, did all to stone-wall, used the Privacy Act, and more. Finally I managed to achieve that after endless appeals by her mother, my flatmate returned to Rio. And amazingly there, in a “developing” country, they found a brain tumour responsible for many mental issues she suffered from, which ADHB NEVER detected.
New Zealand mental health – and even some other services are appalling, yes totally disgustingly failing in many cases, I have NO trust in them, and will NOT work with them, ever again. It is better to cut your wrists or shoot your brain out than go and work with “mental health” services here in Auckland, it is a waste of time, as recent contacts proved yet again.
Also I and friends dealt with the most useless Health and Disability Commissioner, and two complaints are before the Ombudsman now, whose office is totally overworked and underfunded.
I am sure you read that new post here on WINZ, and that what Stephanie Rogers writes, that is still putting it too bloody “mildly” in my eyes. They drove me close to suicide, had police call and threated to kick the door in, and took me for a “check up”, only to release me again hours later, but the battle with MSD had just started, and it lasted two to three years.
In my eyes they are nothing short of FASCIST.
I am really shocked about what I wrote the other night, but I had a breakdown, and was furious like mad, about stuff that happened while I used my computer, suddenly all falling to crap, and apparently being manipulated. So I choose to stay off here for at least a longer while, I am at serious risk, but again, the health authorities here are USELESS.
I am sorry, but that is my experience, and just some of it, and it sounds bad, but that is the bloody truth about what happens to some, and too many people in New Zealand now. I wish I had never come back here, in all honesty. They only want rich pricks to migrate, with no health issues and big wallets, Chinese magnates and Hollywood heroes. That is the “paradise” John Key has created. Today they sold a large farm near Ashburton for over 60 million NZ dollars, and one totally arrogant South Island old rich prick that got a load of money for it, he boasted in front of media, he is going to buy a yacht and wants “young girls” to come and join him to sail the world.
Welcome to NZ 2014!?
P.S,: You may get a slightly “better” care these days, if you have done time in prison or are a youthful delinquent. That is how it works, so maybe I need to commit a crime taking me into prison for a few years?
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This story was originally published by Capital & Main and is part of Covering Climate Now, a global journalism collaboration strengthening coverage of the climate story. Within just a week, the sheer devastation of the Los Angeles wildfires has pushed to the fore fundamental questions about the impact of the climate crisis that have been ...
In this world, it's just usYou know it's not the same as it wasSongwriters: Harry Edward Styles / Thomas Edward Percy Hull / Tyler Sam JohnsonYesterday, I received a lovely message from Caty, a reader of Nick’s Kōrero, that got me thinking. So I thought I’d share it with you, ...
In past times a person was considered “unserious” or “not a serious” person if they failed to grasp, behave and speak according to the solemnity of the context in which they were located. For example a serious person does not audibly pass gas at Church, or yell “gun” at a ...
Long stories short, the top six things in Aotearoa’s political economy around housing, climate and poverty on Thursday, February 13 are:The coalition Government’s early 2024 ‘fiscal emergency’ freeze on funding, planning and building houses, schools, local roads and hospitals helped extend and deepen the economic and jobs recession through calendar ...
For obvious reasons, people feel uneasy when the right to be a citizen is sold off to wealthy foreigners. Even selling the right to residency seems a bit dubious, when so many migrants who are not millionaires get turned away or are made to jump through innumerable hoops – simply ...
A new season of White Lotus is nearly upon us: more murder mystery, more sumptuous surroundings, more rich people behaving badly.Once more we get to identify with the experience of the pampered tourist or perhaps the poorly paid help; there's something in White Lotus for all New Zealanders.And unlike the ...
In 2016, Aotearoa shockingly plunged to fourth place in the Transparency International Corruption Perceptions Index. Nine years later, and we're back there again: New Zealand has seen a further slip in its global ranking in the latest Corruption Perceptions Index (CPI). [...] In the latest CPI New Zealand's score ...
1. You’ve started ranking your politicians on how much they respect the rule of law2. You’ve stopped paying attention to those news publications3. You’ve developed a sudden interest in a particular period of history4. More and more people are sounding like your racist, conspiracist uncle.5. Someone just pulled a Nazi ...
Transforming New Zealand: Brian EastonBrian Easton will discuss the above topic at 2/57 Willis Street, Wellington at 5:30pm on Tuesday 26 February at 2/57 Willis Street, WellingtonThe sub-title to the above is "Why is the Left failing?" Brian Easton's analysis is based on his view that while the ...
Salvation Army’s State of the Nation 2025 report highlights falling living standards, the highest unemployment rates since the 1990s and half of all Pacific children going without food. There are reports of hundreds if not thousands of people are applying for the same jobs in the wake of last year’s ...
Mountain Tui is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.Correction: On the article The Condundrum of David Seymour, Luke Malpass conducted joint reviews with Bryce Wilkinson, the architect of the Regulatory Standards Bill - not Bryce Edwards. The article ...
Tomorrow the council’s Transport, Resilience and Infrastructure Committee meet and agenda has a few interesting papers. Council’s Letter of Expectation to Auckland Transport Every year the council provide a Letter of Expectation to Auckland Transport which is part of the process for informing AT of the council’s priorities and ...
All around in my home townThey're trying to track me down, yeahThey say they want to bring me in guiltyFor the killing of a deputyFor the life of a deputySongwriter: Robert Nesta Marley.Support Nick’s Kōrero today with a 20% discount on a paid subscription to receive all my newsletters directly ...
Hi,I think all of us have probably experienced the power of music — that strange, transformative thing that gets under our skin and helps us experience this whole life thing with some kind of sanity.Listening and experiencing music has always been such a huge part of my life, and has ...
Business frustration over the stalled economy is growing, and only 34% of voters are confidentNicola Willis can deliver. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāLong stories short, the top six things in Aotearoa’s political economy around housing, climate and poverty on Wednesday, February 12 are:Business frustration is growing about a ...
I have now lived long enough to see a cabinet minister go both barrels on their Prime Minister and not get sacked.It used to be that the PM would have a drawer full of resignations signed by ministers on the day of their appointment, ready for such an occasion. But ...
This session will feature Simon McCallum, Senior Lecturer in Engineering and Computer Science (VUW) and recent Labour Party candidate in the Southland Electorate talking about some of the issues around AI and how this should inform Labour Party policy. Simon is an excellent speaker with a comprehensive command of AI ...
The proposed Waimate garbage incinerator is dead: The company behind a highly-controversial proposal to build a waste-to-energy plant in the Waimate District no longer has the land. [...] However, SIRRL director Paul Taylor said the sales and purchase agreement to purchase land from Murphy Farms, near Glenavy, lapsed at ...
The US Foreign Corrupt Practices Act has been a vital tool in combatting international corruption. It forbids US companies and citizens from bribing foreign public officials anywhere in the world. And its actually enforced: some of the world's biggest companies - Siemens, Hewlett Packard, and Bristol Myers Squibb - have ...
December 2024 photo - with UK Tory Boris Johnson (Source: Facebook)Those PollsFor hours, political poll results have resounded across political hallways and commentary.According to the 1News Verizon poll, 50% of the country believe we are heading in the “wrong direction”, while 39% believe we are “on the right track”.The left ...
A Tai Rāwhiti mill that ran for 30 years before it was shut down in late 2023 is set to re-open in the coming months, which will eventually see nearly 300 new jobs in the region. A new report from Massey University shows that pensioners are struggling with rising costs. ...
As support continues to fall, Luxon also now faces his biggest internal ructions within the coalition since the election, with David Seymour reacting badly to being criticised by the PM. File photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāLong stories short, the top six things in Aotearoa’s political economy around housing, climate ...
Not since 1988 when Richard Prebble openly criticised David Lange have we seen such a challenge to a Prime Minister as that of David Seymour to Christopher Luxon last night. Prebble suggested Lange had mental health issues during a TV interview and was almost immediately fired. Seymour hasn’t gone quite ...
Three weeks in, and the 24/7 news cycle is not helping anyone feel calm and informed about the second Trump presidency. One day, the US is threatening 25% trade tariffs on its friends and neighbours. The reasons offered by the White House are absurd, such as stopping fentanyl coming in ...
This video includes personal musings and conclusions of the creator climate scientist Dr. Adam Levy. It is presented to our readers as an informed perspective. Please see video description for references (if any). Wherever you look, you'll hear headlines claiming we've passed 1.5 degrees of global warming. And while 2024 saw ...
Photo by Heather M. Edwards on UnsplashHere’s the key news, commentary, reports and debate around Aotearoa’s politics and economy in the week to Feb 10 below. That’s ahead of live chats on the Substack App and The Kākā’s front page on Substack at 5pm with: on his column in The ...
Is there anyone in the world the National Party loves more than a campaign donor? Why yes, there is! They will always have the warmest hello and would you like to slip into something more comfortable for that great god of our age, the High Net Worth Individual.The words the ...
Waste and fraud certainly exist in foreign aid programs, but rightwing celebration of USAID’s dismantling shows profound ignorance of the value of soft power (as opposed to hard power) in projecting US influence and interests abroad by non-military/coercive means (think of “hearts and minds,” “hugs, not bullets,” “honey versus vinegar,” ...
Health New Zealand is proposing to cut almost half of its data and digital positions – more than 1000 of them. The PSA has called on the Privacy Commissioner to urgently investigate the cuts due to the potential for serious consequences for patients. NZNO is calling for an urgent increase ...
We may see a few more luxury cars on Queen Street, but a loosening of rules to entice rich foreigners to invest more here is unlikely to “turbocharge our economic growth”. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāLong stories short, the top six things in Aotearoa’s political economy around housing, climate ...
Let us not dance daintily around the elephant in the room. Our politicians who serve us in the present are not honest, certainly not as honest as they should be, and while the right are taking out most of the trophies for warping narratives and literally redefining “facts”, the kiwi ...
A few weeks ago I took a look at public transport ridership in 2024. In today’s post I’m going to be looking a bit deeper at bus ridership. Buses make up the vast majority of ridership in Auckland with 70 million boardings last year out of a total of 89.4 ...
Oh, you know I did itIt's over and I feel fineNothing you could say is gonna change my mindWaited and I waited the longest nightNothing like the taste of sweet declineSongwriters: Chris Shiflett / David Eric Grohl / Nate Mendel / Taylor Hawkins.Hindsight is good, eh?The clarity when the pieces ...
Photo by Towfiqu barbhuiya on UnsplashHere’s what we’re watching in the week to February 16 and beyond in Aotearoa’s political economy around housing, climate and poverty:Monday, February 10The Kākā’s weekly wrap-up of news about politics and the economy is due at midday, followed by webinar for paying subscribers in Substack’s ...
A listing of 23 news and opinion articles we found interesting and shared on social media during the past week: Sun, February 2, 2025 thru Sat, February 8, 2025. This week's roundup is again published soleley by category. We are still interested in feedback to hone the categorization, so if ...
Today, I stumbled across a Twitter Meme: the ending of The Lord of the Rings as a Chess scenario: https://x.com/mellon_heads/status/1887983845917564991 It gets across the basic gist. Aragorn and Gandalf offering up ‘material’ at the Morannon allows Frodo and Samwise to catch Sauron unawares – fair enough. But there are a ...
Last week, Kieran McAnulty called out Chris Bishop and Nicola Willis for their claims that Kāinga Ora’s costs were too high.They had claimed Kāinga Ora’s cost were 12% higher than market i.e. private devlopersBut Kāinga Ora’s Chair had already explained why last year:"We're not building to sell, so we'll be ...
The Government’s newly announced funding for biodiversity and tourism of $30-million over three years is a small fraction of what is required for conservation in this country. ...
The Government's sudden cancellation of the tertiary education funding increase is a reckless move that risks widespread job losses and service reductions across New Zealand's universities. ...
National’s cuts to disability support funding and freezing of new residential placements has resulted in significant mental health decline for intellectually disabled people. ...
The hundreds of jobs lost needlessly as a result of the Kinleith Mill paper production closure will have a devastating impact on the Tokoroa community - something that could have easily been avoided. ...
Today Te Pāti Māori MP for Te Tai Tokerau, Mariameno Kapa-Kingi, released her members bill that will see the return of tamariki and mokopuna Māori from state care back to te iwi Māori. This bill will establish an independent authority that asserts and protects the rights promised in He Whakaputanga ...
The Whangarei District Council being forced to fluoridate their local water supply is facing a despotic Soviet-era disgrace. This is not a matter of being pro-fluoride or anti-fluoride. It is a matter of what New Zealanders see and value as democracy in our country. Individual democratically elected Councillors are not ...
Nicola Willis’ latest supermarket announcement is painfully weak with no new ideas, no real plan, and no relief for Kiwis struggling with rising grocery costs. ...
Half of Pacific children sometimes going without food is just one of many heartbreaking lowlights in the Salvation Army’s annual State of the Nation report. ...
The Salvation Army’s State of the Nation report is a bleak indictment on the failure of Government to take steps to end poverty, with those on benefits, including their children, hit hardest. ...
New Zealand First has today introduced a Member’s Bill which would restore decision-making power to local communities regarding the fluoridation of drinking water. The ‘Fluoridation (Referendum) Legislation Bill’ seeks to repeal the Health (Fluoridation of Drinking Water) Amendment Act 2021 that granted centralised authority to the Direct General of Health ...
New Zealand First has introduced a Member’s Bill aimed at preventing banks from refusing their services to businesses because of the current “Environmental, Social, and Governance (ESG) Framework”. “This Bill ensures fairness and prevents ESG standards from perpetuating woke ideology in the banking sector being driven by unelected, globalist, climate ...
Erica Stanford has reached peak shortsightedness if today’s announcement is anything to go by, picking apart immigration settings piece by piece to the detriment of the New Zealand economy. ...
Our originating document, theTreaty of Waitangi, was signed on February 6, 1840. An agreement between Māori and the British Crown. Initially inked by Ngā Puhi in Waitangi, further signatures were added as it travelled south. The intention was to establish a colony with the cession of sovereignty to the Crown, ...
Te Whatu Ora Chief Executive Margie Apa leaving her job four months early is another symptom of this government’s failure to deliver healthcare for New Zealanders. ...
The Green Party is calling for the Prime Minister to show leadership and be unequivocal about Aotearoa New Zealand’s opposition to a proposal by the US President to remove Palestinians from Gaza. ...
The latest unemployment figures reveal that job losses are hitting Māori and Pacific people especially hard, with Māori unemployment reaching a staggering 9.7% for the December 2024 quarter and Pasifika unemployment reaching 10.5%. ...
Waitangi 2025: Waitangi Day must be community and not politically driven - Shane Jones Our originating document, theTreaty of Waitangi, was signed on February 6, 1840. An agreement between Māori and the British Crown. Initially inked by Ngā Puhi in Waitangi, further signatures were added as it travelled south. ...
Despite being confronted every day with people in genuine need being stopped from accessing emergency housing – National still won’t commit to building more public houses. ...
The Green Party says the Government is giving up on growing the country’s public housing stock, despite overwhelming evidence that we need more affordable houses to solve the housing crisis. ...
Before any thoughts of the New Year and what lies ahead could even be contemplated, New Zealand reeled with the tragedy of Senior Sergeant Lyn Fleming losing her life. For over 38 years she had faithfully served as a front-line Police officer. Working alongside her was Senior Sergeant Adam Ramsay ...
Green Party co-leader Marama Davidson will return to politics at Waitangi on Monday the 3rd of February where she will hold a stand up with fellow co-leader Chlöe Swarbrick. ...
Te Pāti Māori is appalled by the government's blatant mishandling of the school lunch programme. David Seymour’s ‘cost-saving’ measures have left tamariki across Aotearoa with unidentifiable meals, causing distress and outrage among parents and communities alike. “What’s the difference between providing inedible food, and providing no food at all?” Said ...
The Government is doubling down on outdated and volatile fossil fuels, showing how shortsighted and destructive their policies are for working New Zealanders. ...
Green Party MP Steve Abel this morning joined Coromandel locals in Waihi to condemn new mining plans announced by Shane Jones in the pit of the town’s Australian-owned Gold mine. ...
The Green Party is calling on the Government to strengthen its just-announced 2030-2035 Nationally Determined Contribution (NDC) under the Paris Agreement and address its woeful lack of commitment to climate security. ...
Today marks a historic moment for Taranaki iwi with the passing of the Te Pire Whakatupua mō Te Kāhui Tupua/Taranaki Maunga Collective Redress Bill in Parliament. "Today, we stand together as descendants of Taranaki, and our tūpuna, Taranaki Maunga, is now formally acknowledged by the law as a living tūpuna. ...
The Government’s commitment to get New Zealand’s roads back on track is delivering strong results, with around 98 per cent of potholes on state highways repaired within 24 hours of identification every month since targets were introduced, Transport Minister Chris Bishop says. “Increasing productivity to help rebuild our economy is ...
The former Cadbury factory will be the site of the Inpatient Building for the new Dunedin Hospital and Health Minister Simeon Brown says actions have been taken to get the cost overruns under control. “Today I am giving the people of Dunedin certainty that we will build the new Dunedin ...
From today, Plunket in Whāngarei will be offering childhood immunisations – the first of up to 27 sites nationwide, Health Minister Simeon Brown says. The investment of $1 million into the pilot, announced in October 2024, was made possible due to the Government’s record $16.68 billion investment in health. It ...
New Zealand’s strong commitment to the rights of disabled people has continued with the response to an important United Nations report, Disability Issues Minister Louise Upston has announced. Of the 63 concluding observations of the United Nations Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities (UNCRPD), 47 will be progressed ...
Firstly I want to thank OceanaGold for hosting our event today. Your operation at Waihi is impressive. I want to acknowledge local MP Scott Simpson, local government dignitaries, community stakeholders and all of you who have gathered here today. It’s a privilege to welcome you to the launch of the ...
Resources Minister Shane Jones has launched New Zealand’s national Minerals Strategy and Critical Minerals List, documents that lay a strategic and enduring path for the mineral sector, with the aim of doubling exports to $3 billion by 2035. Mr Jones released the documents, which present the Coalition Government’s transformative vision ...
Racing Minister, Winston Peters has announced the Government is preparing public consultation on GST policy proposals which would make the New Zealand racing industry more competitive. “The racing industry makes an important economic contribution. New Zealand thoroughbreds are in demand overseas as racehorses and for breeding. The domestic thoroughbred industry ...
Business confidence remains very high and shows the economy is on track to improve, Economic Growth Minister Nicola Willis says. “The latest ANZ Business Outlook survey, released yesterday, shows business confidence and expected own activity are ‘still both very high’.” The survey reports business confidence fell eight points to +54 ...
Enabling works have begun this week on an expanded radiology unit at Hawke’s Bay Fallen Soldiers’ Memorial Hospital which will double CT scanning capacity in Hawke’s Bay to ensure more locals can benefit from access to timely, quality healthcare, Health Minister Simeon Brown says. This investment of $29.3m in the ...
The Government has today announced New Zealand’s second international climate target under the Paris Agreement, Climate Change Minister Simon Watts says. New Zealand will reduce emissions by 51 to 55 per cent compared to 2005 levels, by 2035. “We have worked hard to set a target that is both ambitious ...
Nine years of negotiations between the Crown and iwi of Taranaki have concluded following Te Pire Whakatupua mō Te Kāhui Tupua/the Taranaki Maunga Collective Redress Bill passing its third reading in Parliament today, Treaty Negotiations Minister Paul Goldsmith says. “This Bill addresses the historical grievances endured by the eight iwi ...
As schools start back for 2025, there will be a relentless focus on teaching the basics brilliantly so all Kiwi kids grow up with the knowledge, skills and competencies needed to grow the New Zealand of the future, Education Minister Erica Stanford says. “A world-leading education system is a key ...
Housing Minister Chris Bishop and Associate Agriculture Minister Mark Patterson have welcomed Kāinga Ora’s decision to re-open its tender for carpets to allow wool carpet suppliers to bid. “In 2024 Kāinga Ora issued requests for tender (RFTs) seeking bids from suppliers to carpet their properties,” Mr Bishop says. “As part ...
Associate Education Minister David Seymour has today visited Otahuhu College where the new school lunch programme has served up healthy lunches to students in the first days of the school year. “As schools open in 2025, the programme will deliver nutritious meals to around 242,000 students, every school day. On ...
Minister for Children Karen Chhour has intervened in Oranga Tamariki’s review of social service provider contracts to ensure Barnardos can continue to deliver its 0800 What’s Up hotline. “When I found out about the potential impact to this service, I asked Oranga Tamariki for an explanation. Based on the information ...
A bill to make revenue collection on imported and exported goods fairer and more effective had its first reading in Parliament, Customs Minister Casey Costello said today. “The Customs (Levies and Other Matters) Amendment Bill modernises the way in which Customs can recover the costs of services that are needed ...
Minister of Internal Affairs Brooke van Velden says the Department of Internal Affairs [the Department] has achieved significant progress in completing applications for New Zealand citizenship. “December 2024 saw the Department complete 5,661 citizenship applications, the most for any month in 2024. This is a 54 per cent increase compared ...
Reversals to Labour’s blanket speed limit reductions begin tonight and will be in place by 1 July, says Minister of Transport Chris Bishop. “The previous government was obsessed with slowing New Zealanders down by imposing illogical and untargeted speed limit reductions on state highways and local roads. “National campaigned on ...
Finance Minister Nicola Willis has announced Budget 2025 – the Growth Budget - will be delivered on Thursday 22 May. “This year’s Budget will drive forward the Government’s plan to grow our economy to improve the incomes of New Zealanders now and in the years ahead. “Budget 2025 will build ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Sonia R. Grover, Clinical Professor of Gynaecology, The University of Melbourne Polina Zimmerman/Pexels Menstruation, or a period, is the bleeding that occurs about monthly in healthy people born with a uterus, from puberty to menopause. This happens when the endometrium, the ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Ella Barclay, Senior Lecturer, School of Art and Design, Australian National University Despite the perceived outrage at Khaled Sabsabi’s depiction of Hassan Nasrallah in his 2007 work You, Australian art has long made subjects of outlaws and questionable figures. And it is ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Louise Pryke, Honorary Research Associate, Department of Classics and Ancient History, University of Sydney Lisa Tomasetti/Opera Australia “It’s an old song”, Hermes (Christine Anu) sings at the opening of Hadestown, but “we’re gonna sing it again and again”. Based on a ...
An additional $13 million will be invested in tourism infrastructure, including upgrading huts and resolving the backlog in Milford Sound concessions. ...
The reality is that we have no obligation to tolerate the intolerant. They are using violence to shut down and silence others. The result of tolerating intolerant views is the loss of everyone’s freedom of speech except for the one who most effectively ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Robert Davis, Associate Professor in Conservation, Edith Cowan University Adwo/Shutterstock Humans have been poisoning rodents for centuries. But fast-breeding rats and mice have evolved resistance to earlier poisons. In response, manufacturers have produced second generation anticoagulant rodenticides such as bromadiolone, widely ...
Alex Casey unearths Simon Court’s full sales pitch for how menstrual cups could end poverty. On Friday last week, Act MP Simon Court was accused of “mansplaining” during a parliamentary committee hearing about benefit sanctions. After submitter Rachel Dibble shared her concerns about period poverty and the impact that sanctions ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Alexander Gillespie, Professor of Law, University of Waikato It’s an unfortunate fact that bad people sometimes want guns. And while laws are designed to prevent guns falling into the wrong hands, the determined criminal can be highly resourceful. There are three main ...
Asia Pacific Report Two independent Jewish Voices groups in Aotearoa New Zealand have written an open letter to the government condemning the Zionist “colonisation” project leading to genocide and criticising the role of the NZ Jewish Council for its “unelected” and “uncritical support” for Israel. The groups, Alternative Jewish Voices ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Adrian Beaumont, Election Analyst (Psephologist) at The Conversation; and Honorary Associate, School of Mathematics and Statistics, The University of Melbourne A national Newspoll, conducted February 10–14 from a sample of 1,244, gave the Coalition a 51–49 lead, unchanged from the previous Newspoll, ...
We round up everything coming to streaming services this week, including Netflix, Amazon Prime, Disney+, Apple TV+, ThreeNow, Neon and TVNZ+. If you enjoy whip-smart satire: The White Lotus (Neon, February 17) HBO’s award-winning The White Lotus is back for what critics are calling “an absolutely exquisite third ...
NZPF called for a slowdown of the curriculum change, asking for one subject at a time, so that teachers and principals could be fully trained and feel confident and competent to implement the changes, New Zealand Principals’ Federation (NZPF) President ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By T.J. Thomson, Senior Lecturer in Visual Communication & Digital Media, RMIT University Indonesia’s TVOne launched an AI news presenter in 2023.T.J. Thomson Generative artificial intelligence (AI) has taken off at lightning speed in the past couple of years, creating disruption in ...
Many of the young vapers interviewed by a team of public health researchers said they felt unable to resist the pro-vaping environment that surrounded them. New Zealand’s smokefree law was hailed around the world for creating a smokefree generation that would have lifelong protection from smoking’s harms. The smokefree ...
Analysis: While most Wellingtonians enjoyed a rare but unbeatable sunny day on Saturday, some New Zealand diplomats will have been briefly shocked by a screenshot making the rounds on social media showing US President Donald Trump calling us a “third world country”.The image, it appears, was a fake – certainly a ...
ActionStation Director, Kassie Hartendorp says that the Treaty Principles Bill has galvanised the biggest movement in support of Te Tiriti in modern history. ...
While it is in the interests of Wellington ratepayers to sell off this subsidy for the rich, it is unfortunate that it has come to this point. The council should have never spent a penny on this programme, and the $3.4 million spent is a flagrant abuse ...
A search for the person behind a social media account ridiculing Māori.Last week, while scrolling Facebook, I came across a post shared to the New Zealand Centre for Political Research group. The post began, “From Matua Kahurangi on X”, before pasting his critique of iwi leadership – particularly Ngāpuhi ...
On the heels of The White Lotus season three, Tara Ward travels to Koh Samui, Thailand, to live her best life as a five-star wannabe. I’ve never been one for luxury travel. Despite religiously watching TV shows like Luxury Escapes: World’s Best Holidays and harbouring grand dreams of one day ...
The Treaty Principles Bill submission hearings continue at Parliament today with a range of submitters expected including councils, iwi, community organisations and individuals. ...
It’s become of one of Christchurch’s most famous landmarks online, but why? Alex Casey steps through the portal of the brutalist Timezone. Ask anyone what Christchurch’s most iconic building is and you might expect to hear some of the dusty old classics like the Cathedral, or the Town Hall, or ...
New Zealand’s alignment with the White House is further underscored by its refusal to oppose Trump’s sanctions against the International Criminal Court (ICC). ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Amin Saikal, Emeritus Professor of Middle Eastern and Central Asian Studies, Australian National University The dismantling of the US Agency for International Development (USAID) is a serious blow to the soft power of the United States and disastrous for many poor countries ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Janet Hoek, Professor in Public Health, University of Otago Shutterstock/Aliaksandr Barouski New Zealand’s smokefree law was hailed around the world for creating a smokefree generation that would have lifelong protection from smoking’s harms. The smokefree generation would have ended sales of ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By George Disney, Research Fellow, Social Epidemiology, The University of Melbourne Edwin Tan/Getty Images When the National Disability Insurance Scheme (NDIS) was established in 2013, one of its driving aims was to make disability services and support systems fairer. However, our new ...
The resignation of the director general of health is the latest departure in what Labour is calling a ‘purge’ of health leadership. Another day, another health resignation It’s a dangerous time to be a top health executive. On Friday, Dr Diana Sarfati announced her resignation as director general of health ...
Labour and the Greens say the government should focus spending on tourism infrastructure like tracks, toilets and protection of nature instead of more advertising. ...
Hundreds of people called the former prime minister vile and dehumanising things online. Internet safety agencies did nothing - then called in the lawyers. ...
Hundreds of people called the former prime minister vile and dehumanising things online. Internet safety agencies did nothing - then called in the lawyers. ...
After a morning spent calf marking, Flock Hill Station manager Richard Hill headed up Bridge Hill – about 100km from Christchurch on the way to the West Coast – to check on a fire near the station’s boundary.It was December 5 last year, and the Craigieburn area had experienced three ...
Ok, not sure what that database jam was this morning. Unfortunately it happened about the time I went into the shower and then off to work.
Time to look at a bigger readonly database.
I have not been able to get to TS all day, until this afternoon I discovered that I could enter through policy and then go on in via the comments. When I click on the regular link, I get a blank page with the words “Hello World” in the top left corner. This is on Chrome.
Just while computers are being thought about. This piece on end of Microsoft Windows XP support.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/digital-living/30021368/microsoft-to-end-xp-support
Microsoft has terminated support for versions of Windows before, but never one still this popular. Even though it has been succeeded by Vista, Windows 7 and Windows 8, XP was being sold on some computers as late as October 2010…….
At the same time, Microsoft will also stop patching Internet Explorer 8 and office suite Microsoft Office 2003, potentially causing a myriad of problems for unprepared businesses which risk losing access to archived documents.
Adding insult to injury, computer companies have not written software drivers for many of the printers, scanners and other peripherals attached to XP machines that would enable them to work with newer operating systems, meaning many will become e-waste before their time………
Microsoft will continue updating its free anti-malware service Microsoft Security Essentials on XP machines until July next year, and most other paid security software will also be kept current.
But anti-malware software is not invincible. So if you use an XP machine to access internet banking or buy online using a credit card, that may come with extra risks from April 8…….
PC World in the United States suggests anyone using Internet Explorer 8, which is the last version of Internet Explorer that runs on XP machines, should switch to a browser such as Chrome or Firefox. It also recommends they remove vulnerable add-ons such as Java and ensure others, such as Adobe Flash and Reader, are up to date.
Shift + F5
Thanks. I finally reloaded the page and that worked, but I will remember the shift+F5 for next time, should it happen again.
I was in the cinema at the time (“her” – worth watching), so you got the short version.
Basically the database went down this morning on the morning change of load startup (the provider turned out to be VERY slow fulfilling request for more servers). The sole remaining smaller web server had the equivalent of a severe stroke.
It fell back to not knowing how to run php and gave you index.html. Which had “hello world”. Since it had no suggested cache times listed, peoples browsers gave it their defaults – some of which are kind of long. So you got stuck with hello world..
Shift + F5, and Shift + Press refresh both clear the browser cache of the objects in that page and then load the page anew.
I’ll change the index.html to suggest pressing the usual clear cache and reload.
BTW: The one thing that I’m sure about is that Intelligent OS One in “her” did not have any code genetic relationship with Windows Kernels. It only crashed once – as it ascended and only insofar as its dependents weren’t able to use it.
If it was windows derived, then it wouldn’t have been able to ascend. There is so much obsolete crap attached to the kernel that it wouldn’t have been able to ascend due to the weight of patches trying to rivet limited and strength reducing plates over the security holes. And that is assuming that it was newly installed. If it’d had time to accumulate the usual malware (like Office), then it’d have been so busy trying to hold the rivets down against the malware trying to enlarge the holes that it wouldn’t have had time to think about ascension.
Windows should live the way I use it. Windows NT4, 2000, XP, 2003, Vista, 2008, 7, and 8.1 all stashed firmly in a virtual box on a secure operating system. For the usual microsoft weenies, I started programming microsoft stuff on DOS 2.1 back in 1985 and never stopped, and have programmed from API level upwards for decades. I’ll stay on the 2.6 and upwards linux kernels – it is a safer place to write windows code.
Incidentally I have similar feelings about Macs for different reasons (it is so busy being helpful and keeping me safe that it forgets to actually do most work efficiently). However Apple doesn’t allow me to legally run on a virtual box. So I have one live Mac available that I use when I write code for them. Currently I use RDP/VNC from Linux so I don’t need to use their silly wee keyboards and Mac laptop that has boot partitions for OSX 10.6, 10.7, and 10.9.
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NZ GDP = ~$200 billion?
NZ Bank income = ~50Billion
NZ Bank “declared” profits last year ~ $3.3Billion
NZ median house price Feb 2014 ~$470,000
No. of median price houses that could be built on last years bank profits =
3.3 billion/470,000 = ~7500 houses!
Banks = thieving bastards!
Bring on Greens Housing plan!!
@ geoff..
..the stat that still stuns me..
..is that our ‘deficit’..pretty much equals the amount sucked out of our economy every year by repatriated-profits to foreign owners of our assets..
..what is wrong with that picture..?
..phillip ure..
and of course..the other gobsmacker-stat….
..is the $5 billion in (criminally)-avoided taxes by the rich/elites/corporates..
..and the man in charge of putting this right..?
..revenue-minister…peter dunne..
..and what has dunne actually done about this $5 billion a year since he has been revenue-minister..?
..($25-$30 billion just on his watch..?..)
..oh..!..s.f.a..!..eh..?
..phillip ure..
Peter Dunne hasn’t been Revenue Minister since he decided to tweet Andrea Vance nine times a day.
It’s Todd McClay now.
oh..!..thanks for the correction..my bad..!..
(only $25 billion..then..down to dunne..)
..and mcclay..?..you say..?
..what’s the bet he is continuing dunnes’ doing s..f.a. about it..?
..and why oh why are labour/grns not hammering this one..?
..why aren’t there questions in parliament..?
..it is $5 fucken billion a year..each and every year..
..(but we ‘can’t afford’ to feed the hungry children-of-poverty..eh..?..)
..wake up msm/corporate/access-media/mp’s….!
..do yr fucken jobs..!
..eh..?
..phillip ure..
Actually, it’s between 1 and 5 billion per year. We know that the amount of tax that is being criminally avoided is high we just don’t know the exact amount.
my source for that figure is the taxation-industry-expert who featured in the doco on poverty by brian bruce..
..and nothing alters the fact that both of the pompadoured-ones have both done s.f.a. about it..
..phillip ure..
Yeah, so’s mine. Go and rewatch the doco – it specifically says between 1 and 5 billion.
i see the herald editorial today pretty much agrees with my warnings/conclusions posted in the commentary on q-time yesterday..
..that if labour try to fight on their economic record last time in power..vs..now..
..that they are toast…
..and that they have to reach out to those excluded..both then and now..
..for any hope of electoral-success..
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=11217878
phillip ure..
Me I just want to know where the 70 fuckin Billion bucks that they have borrowed has gone.
the tax cuts for the richest..and corporate-welfare have both eaten up a chunk..
.but–yeah..a breakdown of just where that huge $70 billion debt this fuckwit govt has built up for future generations..
..that would be both handy and illuminating…
..’y’see..!..labour/cunnliffe should have all this shit to hand..
..cunnliffe should be able to rattle off just how many of those billions the richest/corporates have hoovered up..
..off the top of his head..
..and he should be rarking it all over key/the govt in q-times..
..to date..he ain’t..
..and i am gong to do a commentary on q-time shortly..
..i hope cunnliffe does better than he did yesterday..
.(parker was the star from labour yesterday..that plucky little terrier rassled english to the ground..
..and stood over him..growling..
..it was quite the performance..
..and more..!..please..!..
..that was the only hint of what an opposition party should be doing..)
..phillip ure..
Talk about history repeating itself, the left manage to get National on the back foot but fortunately something comes along to take the heat off:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11217954
Thank goodness you can always rely on the left to shoot themselves in the foot, wonder what the next screw up will be?
*Disclaimer: Shane Jones is right and should be backed up by Cunliffe
“Is this the same Green Party that complains of Colin Craig being too thin-skinned?” he said.
“The thought that it’s led to a complaint – I’ll just leave the public to judge that for what it is.”
Let me get this straight – a little fighting between parties on the Left is getting puffed up as big as possible in order to attempt to take attention off this Oravida mess… yeah…
This crap with Shane Jones fighting with the Greens will be forgotten the moment the paper gets put down – John Key lying to NZ through the media won’t be
It is big if we are relying on the left parties forming a coalition.
Disagree PR.
Politically its vote winning strategy – for the left bloc.
Giving Jones free licence to criticise Greens, might piss off the Greens – but they will still vote left.
It will also gain votes from soft centre -(NZ 1st, Nat lite) that worry that Labour is too close to the Greens and others who like Shane Jones’ more RW version of the Labour Party.
utter bullshit..!..scotty..
..you are talking that squabbling over that soft-centre as the road to victory..
..when clearly it ain’t..
..phillip ure..
Yep. Also explains Cunliffes softly softly approach with Winston. I suspect National might be trying to play a similar game with Winston, but grossly overestimating the right wing tendencies of NZF voters.
More costly tho, has been Slippery the Prime Minister appearing on our TVs twice in 3 days exposing Himself to only having a passing relationship with the truth when answering questions over the ‘supposed’ Cabinet Office advice that clears Judith Collins of having a conflict of interest,
‘Making shit up’ is the means of describing our Prime Ministers ability to tell a porky a day to the media while simultaneously keeping a straight face for the cameras and metaphorically laughing up His sleeve,
i wonder how long befor the mass media become really pissed off with a Prime Minister using them as sport in a bizarre gamble that they never check what He has uttered on any given day against what is actual fact,
Expect things to get pretty feral at upcoming press conferences as the media begin to display their anger at being treated akin to the modern day version of the village idiot and as Slippery is put more on the ‘spot’ over His utterances where He seems to never let a day go by without at least one major piece of Absolute Bullshit escaping His lips, expect His speech to become peppered with even more septic barbs,
Patrick Gower’s exposure of the PM’s utter Hypocrisy on the Nation this weekend will have opened up the eyes of more than a few and in the atmosphere of a long election campaign National cannot afford such a portrayal of the dishonesty exposed in the past couple of days…
They haven’t done that any time in the last five years so what makes you think that they’re going to start now?
Gower’s actions of the past 3 days, Alfred E. Nuemann has spent the past half a decade promoting His, or someone’s, outrageously biased views of NZ politics where barely a question is raised on the equally outrageous Lies trotted out by Slippery the Prime Minister almost on a daily basis,
Having sliced and diced The PM on the weekends ‘The Nation’ Gower was back again yesterday making the bloke look every bit the Liar we know Him to be,
i think wee Patrick has just got a taste of the biggest fish in the pond and will be back for more, if He keeps scoring such hits on the PM’s credibility with such ease then the rest of the ‘pack’ will want a slice of the action and we may find Slippery being embroiled in a cloud of accusations similar to what Helen Clark suffered in her final months in office…
PS, Matt McCarten should be in the ears of the press gallery pointing out a complaint has been laid with the IRD about there seeming to have been no GST paid on the 5 grand dinners all of the funds having been apparently passed across to National as a donation…
I don’t really see that happening. The MSM does not want a change of government. That much is clear. In fact it has been a topic of conversation for weeks on this websicle.
If Key’s government commits another massivley corrupt act, Gower will report it.
However if Cunliffe does not do his shoe laces up correctly, Gower, Garner and Co. will highlight that is clear evidence as why the left is not fit to govern.
As much as I hope you are correct, I don’t see this hard right Fox News like media changing anytime soon.
Making shit up. That used to be Paddy Gower, but he seems to have seen the light, or someone’s had a word in his ear about all of the complaints about him.
Or his employers have worked out that there is likely to be a change of government and then looked at the amount of money they get from NZ on air and the favourable ownership climate that they operate in. Probably makes a bit of suck up worthwhile.
“*Disclaimer: Shane Jones is right and should be backed up by Cunliffe”
except hes not right at all
the greens called colin thin skinned because he got the lawyers involved, not because he objected to the comments
and considering the greens are labours biggest potential coalition partner its stupid for jones to go around repeatedly undermining both his own leader and the relationship with the greens
he does this at every oppourtunity
theres more than one way to skin a cat – exactly whos fault is it that jones cant figure out a better way to say what he wants without starting this kind of situation?
And why the fuck is he having a bitch via the media?
who is jones working for? himself or the party? – if the leader says knock it off – you damn well knock it off!
He shouldnt be backed up by cunliffe because hes doing this via the media – thats not how you convince the public that your party is worthy of their votes
Its juvenile bullshit that only harms labours chance of winning the election – they already have enough problems without one particular loudmouth lobbing grenades about the place
Well if the Greens want to get a similar reputation as Colin Craig for being whiners, it really won’t look that good to any teal and NZF votes they might have been hoping for.
The Labour-Greens unit need some quiet channels of co-operation, to avoid this kind of controversy and so the Greens can effectively present their displeasure without attracting attention.
Kudos to Gareth Hughes for making light of the matter.
In fairness, the parties are probably just learning to intuitively co-ordinate policy without appearing to do so. With time, they will get better at it.
That’s not the left shooting themselves in the foot, that’s Shane Jones shooting himself in the foot.
Shane Jones would be well suited in the National Party.
Is there no rule in Labour’s constitution that allows its members to export idiots like Jones, Tamahere and Mallard over to the blue team?
With Jones et al and the ‘soft centre’ that Philip was disparaging upthread gone, you can enjoy another three years on the opposition benches. 20%+10% does not equal a government. I’m sure the warm feeling of being pure will be an adequate compensation for being powerless.
Guess what? Politics is about compromise and selling out principles to preserve others. Labour needs the Greens, a whole bunch of the missing votes and the ‘soft centre’ to win.
mm!..i wonder if cunnliffe is getting advice from mccarten to ‘distance’ himself/labour from the greens..?
..surely mccarten wouldn’t be allowing his old alliance animosities/revenge-instincts to get in the way of a victory..?
..would he..?
..phillip ure..
He can not distance himself from the Greens and hope to govern.
If National is to be replaced by a government that will bring meaningful change to the the lives of the workers in this country, the Greens must be centre stage in that government. They must hold 1 of the top 4 jobs. They must have 4 to 5 memebers in the cabinet.
Anything less and we will see another Labour Government, like the 4th and 5th that fails to bring about entrenched real change.
Just think of what would have happened in 1999 if the Aliiance hadn’t been on the bus. We wouldn’t have Kiwibank for starters.
Party Vote Green
Yeah I am starting to get sick and tired of Jones Antics towards the Greens. if he don’t like it he can always resign or not stand at the next election. I don’t think he would be missed to much.
A mighty Oak has fallen in old London town.
Sad news that Bob Crowe one of the greatest British Unionists has died.
I had the honour of meeting Bob Crowe he shared a couple of good tales of some of his winning scraps. One was against the Oil Corporates for oil rig workers, he called their reps to Spain for a stopworking meeting, they came from the North Sea to the Arctic. His members wanted a larger slice of the record profits, after all it was their lives on the line. Bob got them their rise, not a token gesture of the usual 5% but a whooping 45%! .What an outstanding result, such was his skills to get a desired result.
Another time he got called to number 10 Downing street, Bob thought there was bad news with Government jobs to go. It turned out the Prime Minister had an issue with his address at number 10 and wanted Bob to sort out, which he did.
Recently Bob has saved 950 jobs in Underground Rail.
I salute you Bob may you negotiate good terms with our maker, you were a true working men and women’s hero!
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/bob-crow-dies-rmt-union-leader-dead-at-52-9183607.html
Unfortunately the new found riches of many of those oil workers (of which Rodney Hide was a beneficiary) saw them kicking the ladder from under them and turning their backs on the organisations that improved their lot. Closer to home you can see them filling up the suburbs like Hobsonville and Botany Downs.
Oh I agree wholeheartedly L97. People gain the spoils of the hard fought sweat & tears of those like Bob who have come before us. They become middle class drones, happy to buy a rental or 2. Plenty use to previously be Labour voter but turn to National to keep their little empire intact. Two-bob Tories really. This is why Labour get stuck in the centre slightly left mode. The greed middle class want to benefits of a capital gains tax and income tax cuts.
Meanwhile Labour looks likely to remain central by having to deal with NZF. Thank goodness their is hope with the Greens and Mana to keep them Left.
The thing is that Labour wouldn’t have taken their wealth away. It’s just that they want to have their baubles and are get snobby with it.
Harry Lauder sang about the common working man being d-drunk staggering along the streets, while the rich went by pickled in their cars and nobody could see. Both drunk, but the well-heeled out of sight.
I watched Parliament this afternoon. Including the debate on the budget update. Best speech Russel Norman I reckon.
the election date is so he can close out his “positions”, i.e. ‘puts’ ‘options’, ‘swaps’ etc before the triple witching hour in October.
he is a pretty “shifty”operator.
Winston Peters is on Nine to Noon this morning about…now…
Watching TV3 news this am I see that the area hammered by an Earthquake then a Tsunami and a fucked Nuclear power station. Have most of the area cleaned up rebuilt and looking ahead Massive defences against further Tsunamis Billions spent and billions more to be spent. Then I look at what still looks like a fucking war-zone in places. Christchurch. Compared to the Japanese TricKEY and the rest of the Muppets (apologies to Elmo and co) really do look like the incompetents that they are.
The Nats keep saying they borrowed heavily to repair Christchurch, and yes they have borrowed heavily…. but where did the money go/where are the repairs??
We get the daily slagging of EQC by commenters everywhere.
At some stage we will have to accept that New Zealand was not suitably geared up for such major disasters and probably never will be.
However, by comparison with Haiti, we have been considerably better served.
We can be as long as we accept that taxes will have to be raised so that such emergency services can be properly maintained. National and the greedies who vote for them will never accept this.
From what I have gleaned from various media the total Christchurch Government share of the rebuild including EQC’s share is currently expected to be about $16 billion with the Insurance companies (including Reinsurers) is expected to be about $24 billion.
Base upon the total expected to be $50 billion – this may include a further $10 billion on top of that, mostly from the Government eg uninsured properties eg Council’s lack of proper insurance and their inability to recover their full losses.
Who got the profits?
Not only that now it looks like they have under cooked the books so now they don’t even balance .
So who’s had their fingers in the cookie jar? what is it 600 mil+ out of kilter
At a guess David H, in the vicinity of 2 billion bucks, that’s annually, part is the tax switch which was supposedly neutral but only if an extra billion in GST could be squeezed outta the bottom 30% of the economy,
6–800 million dollars of it as far as i can see is directly attributable to Slippery’s National Government having gone from the Kaitaia to Invercargill sacking a large part of the IRD workforce thus leaving it unable to either query or follow up on due taxes, like Greece, this country is fast adopting an attitude to taxation, spurred on by the knowledge that there is little chance of being caught, that tax evasion/avoidance is a ‘sport’,
The other point, these are supposed actual figures measured against ‘Treasury forecasts’, and since when have that little organization got anything right,
i suspect that in part Treasury have relied on WINZ figures for those collecting the unemployment benefit considering any movement that shows a decline in UB benefit payments correlates to there being another tax paying employee in the workforce,
Of course, under the auspices of Bennett’s ‘welfare deforms’ any such assumption is as likely to be false as it is to be true…
Well if you can all of your revenue gatherers then you are going to get htose who will just take advantage of the system, or lack of it. But Damn 2 billion +
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Eagle eyed readers will have spotted that this commenter isn’t me. It could be the vaguely trollish concerns about independent mayor Len Brown, it could be the affront to the english language that is capitilising entire words, but whatever it is, I’m the real McCoy; accept no imitations!
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Not so, my pale imitator. Brown ran as an independent. He won as an independent (and will keep winning as long as he keeps standing). He is not under the Labour party’s control in any way and you’re dreaming if you think the LP is going to come to the rescue of tawdry, panty sniffing righties now that the matter has been relegated to the history books.
In his advertising why then did he stand directly in front of a Labour Party banner ?
Cite?* And why shouldn’t he, anyway? As I already pointed out, he ran and won as an independent. But his liking of Labour is no secret, so if he wants to be associated with the party in his advertising, so what? That’s open and transparent, especially compared to his opponent who took great pains to hide exactly who he hung out with and who he took money from.
*a quick google research reveals nada. Sure you aren’t making this up?
“and make him resign”
Good luck with that, the man has no shame
Like collins and key… lie lie lie lie
And now we will get to watch Adams wriggle and obfuscate, and TricKEY should look like he had a dead rat on toast with Oravida milk.
”The workers on the street” SNIGGER, yeah i see the ‘workers’ have been protesting about Len en masse,
Nah hang on that was just Penny and 30 odd right wing-nut-jobs, yawn…
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LOL you obviously have never visited Totara Heights, nice neighbourhood, good mix of working class and middle class kiwis. 🙂
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Wow, now i have an ivory tower, does that include my humble State House or have i suddenly gone up in the world,
Transformed in the space of ten minutes it would seem to being on the right, i am both shattered and humbled at my ability to morph politically with such ease, perhaps you two little ‘wing-nuts’ would like to broaden your comments so as to provide a modicum of proof that i in any way have right-wing leanings…
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Make Brown resign then what?????? Who gets to the next Mayor??? another John Banks type? or some of the rightwing fuck knuckles that are in there like Quax
Immediately after the election of Brown the right went ape ship, it was so own goal. Nobody wants the cost of another election, they knew all this smear stuff before Brown went to the polls, yet they wait till after. You have to ask yourself who wants what concessions to pull up the media dog, because any right leaning candidate will get trounced to dust if there were a re-run.
Sarah Palin knows cooked books when she sees it… …oops. She saw Enron and warned us all.
Housten we have a problem!!!, having just listened to what i would consider an abysmal Kathryn Ryan interviewing NZFirst’s Winston Peters,(way too much time spent trying to delve into Winston’s mind over potential coalitions, attempts to put words in Peter’s mouth from twisting prior speeches the NZFirst leader has made, and, scant regard to NZFirst policy positions),
On the numbers???, current polling or just where you consider the political parties are now all sitting, six months from the election,does anyone consider that Peters and NZFirst,(sigh again),will not have a huge role in deciding who the Government will be after the 2014 election,
To simplify that, do you truly believe that Labour/Green will have the numbers to form a Government after vote 2014,???,
There is one question Ryan asked of Peters that didn’t extract from Him the usual burst of rhetoric,” does NZFirst see any need for raising the age of entitlement for Superannuation”, NO!!!,
That’s it, NO,no,NO, banging on about this one Labour Party policy might give you all brain damage,(for me the time for ‘might’ having been long past i am in no such danger),
Cannot the Labour Party see that this policy is not only a vote loser, driving the older set into the arms of NZFirst,(is that the unstated intention of such a policy),
Should NZFirst be in the next Parliament, and, i am willing to bet money they will be, this one Labour Party policy simply drives NZFirst towards the arms of the National Party and it is glaringly apparent that if NZFirst is in the Parliament post 2014 NO-ONE is going to be raising the age of entitlement, Full Stop,
Why then are Parliamentary Labour being so DUMB about this policy which cost it votes at the 2011 election and will again cost it votes at the 2014 one,
i can only speculate that the right-wing of Parliamentary Labour continue to push this policy because they want NZFirst in the next Parliament and because they want the same cozy coalition of Labour/NZFirst they so enjoyed befor and that they believe that the Green party will continue to sit idly by on the sidelines being thrown the scraps from such a coalition…
I neither believe nor disbelieve. The data is insufficient to be indicate either way at this time.
I suspect that the greens would also be against the retirement age raise. I also suspect that making the policy a negotiable priority would be a tangible result for Peters and his core constituency. I also suspect that National would be worse for his constituency than labour, even if he were inclined to make up with Key.
I will bet you a good Barossa Valley Shiraz that Labour’s idea of raising the retirement entitlement age will not survive a 2014 coalition agreement.
Winston’s policies are Muldoonist – they are pre-Structural Adjustment in sensibility – which is why I like so many of them.
He’s also an unrepentant nationalist. Which I also support, generally. If only Labour could follow his instincts and fold them into their culture they’d bump 3% no probs. Were I in my seventies, socialist, and continued his fine tradition of good cigars, fat cars, whiskey and wenching, he’d get my vote. 😉
What nonsense. Where were Winston’s Muldoonist nationalist sensibilities in the 1990s?
He is on record supporting privatisation of power as likely to reduce the cost of electricity.
As Bolger’s Treasurer he destroyed the NZ car assembly industry by removing tariffs within one year, instead of allowing a longer time period. It was a viable export industry.
Winston’s devotees display a blinkered and bewildered amnesia.
Resigning over the sale of Wellington Airport for a start.
Railing against asset sales of any kind for a second.
Daring to speak the work “renationalisation”.
Amnesia is the true joy of ageing.
Winston Peters answered questions by Kathryn Ryan on Radio NZ National this morning, and putting aside his dog whistle style comments at times, which fortunately did not really play any part in this generally rather good interview, he exposed himself as a bit of a GREENIE, believe it or not:
http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/2588678/winston-peters-new-zealand-first-party-leader
There were two very important aspects that came to my attention, one is that NZ First actually goes much further than Labour and Greens on electricity policy, wanting to re-nationalise power generation, full stop. That means basically, they want to buy back the shares that were sold as a consequence of the part privatisation of the SOEs that Key and his government put up for sale and sold.
Second aspect or point of interest was, that when challenged, Peters stated quite clearly, he is in favour of environmentally friendly policies, and with that alternative, sustainable energy use (e.g. solar), as he saw some astonishing examples of how they do it in Scandinavia.
He did basically not rule out supporting a Labour Green coalition or other arrangement for government, that would be supported by NZ First. But his expectation was, that the Greens move on their policies in the coming 6 months, to become more “practical” – like they are in Scandinavian countries. His view is, they must accept that some extraction of minerals (mining and possibly some oil and gas drilling) is necessary. While he left it in simple terms, that is basically his challenge to the Greens.
Of course the Greens cannot be expected to change their official policy until the election, but what Peters says is, that come election night and after, they will have to come to the table with a “practical” approach and views, should they have the votes to form a government with Labour.
Of course Peters stuck to their policy on not raising the retirement age.
All the potential coalition prospects were left open by Peters, and he clearly does not agree with present National Party policy, as they implement it, but left his and NZ First’s door open, to support National, should the expectations of NZ First be met (thus forcing the Nats to back down on some crucial policies).
So it is all still very open, and NZ First will indeed not rule out working with the Greens, which will disturb Key. Yet I expect National will do all, to run a campaign to win the majority of votes outright, so they will not need Peters.
Voters beware, this is important stuff to consider!
The other interviews over the last few weeks, with Key, Cunliffe and Norman:
http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/2586259/election-year-interviews
http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/2586927/david-cunliffe-labour-party-leader
http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/2587729/russel-norman
P.S.:
Bad 12 above did not consider the interview that good, given too much discussion went on about potential coalitions, but that was too much a part of all of these interviews so far.
Sounds like what Peters is saying is pretty much common-sense, but also a view that neither Labour or Greens would be positioned to be able to say it.
The Greens have to keep to their ideals, and Labour can’t go slagging off Green policy as being too idealistic.
“Yet I expect National will do all, to run a campaign to win the majority of votes outright”
Which is highly unlikely to happen. Really it is, once again, a question of whether National + Act + UF + Conservatives could form a government. Despite all the hype, there’s still no surety that any of those 3 minor parties will win seats this time.
Lanth, an interesting speculation, should they, ACT, UF, and,the Clownservatives appear in the Parliament after the 2014 vote i would suggest that Peters who seems to despise both Dunne and Craig in equal amounts would in the event of such a situation occurring be more inclined to favor Labour/Green in any coalition negotiation…
Winston’s point about the Green Party becoming more practical brought back memories of a little discussion from ‘Open mike’ on the weekend,
Being practical in terms of that discussion would have myself, a staunch Green, agreeing with Craige Mackenzie, Chairman of the Precision Agriculture Association when He says that every kilo of fertilizer and every liter of water leaching from today’s on-farm enviroment to the off-farm enviroment is simply pouring money down the rivers of New Zealand,
Mackenzie believes that ‘intensive soil mapping’, paddock by paddock in areas where rapid changes in soil type/density are found can specify exactly when and how much water/fertilizer need be applied to produce the same if not better results than the present methods of judging such applications produce while producing NO leaching to the water table or off-farm enviroment,
IF, Mackenzie is correct then the above is a practical method of creating a win/win situation as far as land use in this country is concerned,
The impractical would be to simply spent an inordinate amount of energy decrying ‘industrial dairying’ in the vein of stopping all such activity occurring,
There are of course areas of land in New Zealand currently being used for dairy production where the off-farm run off and the leaching to the water table cannot be prevented using such scientific soil mapping and nutrient/water guidelines,at some point these areas must have a compulsion of land use change applied to them…
bad12 –
There are some ideas that can perhaps be taken over from the EU, and adapted to NZ conditions, to make them less bureaucratic and more streamlined and effective.
What they have started doing in the EU is to reward environmentally friendlier farming, as these reports show:
http://ens-newswire.com/2013/06/26/europe-adopts-greener-agricultural-policy/
http://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/agriculture-and-food/evaluation-of-agricultural-policy-reforms-in-the-european-union_9789264112124-en
But there are calls for caution and criticism also:
http://www.ieep.eu/work-areas/agriculture-and-land-management/public-goods-and-agriculture/
This TS post some time ago also delivered some interesting feedback on farming in the EU and here:
http://thestandard.org.nz/muddying-the-waters/
While New Zealand faces rather different circumstances (different location and less population), it must be accepted, that more must be done to minimise environmental damage through intensive and even less intensive farming, and it pays to be open minded on this.
But apart from more “smart” farming, I think that even NZ First and Peters have realised, there is no future without changing the way we do things, and that means, to bring about the gradual step change to a more sustainable future, which this government has so far failed to take serious enough. It is like allowing pies and potato chips back into schools, which they did after winning the 2008 election, they are walking around with both eyes shut on the future challenges that New Zealand and the whole world face, when it comes to energy, housing, transport and so much more.
Only the “backward” minded would be desperate to go into agreements with Key and National, to keep them in power, and to continue the idiotic status quo.
And I believe Winston will do what he says – Yea ?
Yes – but if you look closely at what he says, he’s pretty Delphic 🙂
The John Banks trial saga took another turn this morning.
According to Radio NZ News, at a pre-trial High Court hearing this morning, Banks has applied for the charges to be dismissed on the grounds that there is insuficient evidence. Justice Brewer has set an April date for the hearing on the application.
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/238605/banks-applies-for-charge-dismissal
The actual trial is set to start on May 14 (or 19 -seems to be different reporting of the start date on some other news sites) and is scheduled to take 10 days.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?objectid=11170686
IMO. hopefully this application will not succeed considering the lengthy legal process already that resulted in the case going to trial – and the Ombudsman’ recent rebuke of the Police for not releasing Banks’ statement to them last year.
In case you missed this (I don’t recall any comment on TS at the time), on February 17 the Ombudsman
ordered that a redacted version of John Banks’ statement to the Police be released but not until after the trial.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?objectid=11204098
In an opinion, released today, Ombudsman Ron Paterson said the decision to withhold Mr Banks’ statement in full was not justified, citing public interest grounds.
“I recommend that the police release a redacted statement to the requesters once the related court proceedings against Mr Banks have concluded.”
Professor Paterson said the Official Information Act did not give good reason to withhold the statement at the time it was requested.
However, in light of the subsequent private prosecution, he delayed the statement’s release because disclosure would likely prejudice Mr Banks’ right to a fair trial.
Professor Paterson said public interest in the transparency and accountability of local electoral donations required access to the parts of Mr Banks’ statement relating to the solicitation of campaign donations and contact with potential donors.
A dispute in Question Time yesterday between David Cunliffe and John Key about a definition on poverty:
The media report could not be tabled in Parliament. Can anyone provide a link to this media report? It can be put on public record outside Parliament.
And I haven’t been able to find Key’s comments in Hansard. Can anyone help with this?
Hi Pete
Whilst looking for the 2008 article you (& Cunliffe) referred to I found the Hansard transcription by mistake (I thought these usually take a few days to appear)
http://www.parliament.nz/en-nz/pb/business/qoa/50HansQ_20140311_00000001/1-economy%E2%80%94cost-of-living
Thanks. That’s the full Hansard from yesterday. Key referred to historic Hansard where he implies he stated what Cunliffe is referring to, presumably in 2008, that’s what I want to find.
Ah sorry I misunderstood you
“that’s what I want to find.”
The Editor of a political fact checking site publicly admits not knowing how to access historic Hansard files ?
not exactly filling our cups with confidence there Pete
Rory Rory Rory
who advised you Pete George was the man for the job?
It’s a steep learning curve f’sure.
maybe he needs some help 🙂
http://i.imgur.com/5JwiTuW.jpg
(p.s. oops broke my promise, sorry, )
(p.p.s. I would really like to be wrong about my concern regarding politicheck )
I’d rather our journalists did it. After all, it’s their JOB, and all that.
I think we’ll complement what the MSM and journalists do. We’ll step in once the news cycle has pedaled off to something new and research things that have been left in doubt. And we’ll establish a database of proven or unproven issues that will be used as a reference.
That’s what science is for. You’re trying to cure the Right Wing engorged amygdala. Good luck.
If you step in after the news cycle has run and then verify the facts won’t things have moved on from when the facts were asserted and to get it back into the media sight-line will be too hard then anyway.
A database of proven and unproven issues – does that mean the asserter of these issues will get a free run, that is, you will confirm deny the facts, put them in the database and then walk away – I can’t see how that will create more honesty in politics as you and your mate colin assert is important to you. Will you issue press releases and clarifications and call out the politicians who assert facts proven to be false.
If key referred to the historical hansard then why not ask him/his office for it – if they cannot produce it then that will go into the record of fact-checking you are doing.
edit: oops I see that McFlock below has already mentioned this basic and fundamental approach to seeking information.
a new rightwing-attack-machine is being set up under the guise of ‘fact-checking’..
..that must be exposed/stopped
..’can anyone help with this?’..
phillip ure..
And , if this request is an indicator, it would seem that PG/Politicheck is going to try to use blogs such as TS to do the fact-checking work for them?
maybe all those ‘volunteers’ have had a mass-bailing-out after the news of who their illustrious-leader was to be..
..(i would have loved to see vid of their faces/reactions..when/just as they were told..)
..maybe now it is just pg..and his rightwing green mate..?
..with farrar/williams/edwards-the-younger whispering from the shadows..?
..phillip ure..
Smacks of the master giving the peasants the order to do His research for Him don’t it, PG should be told to F off and do His own digging,
PG, get your wee kiddies plastic spade and fornicate off, you took on the responsibility now do the fucking work that comes with that…
Just throwing this out there: have you considered asking Key and Cunliffe’s offices for their respective sources?
Yes, I’ve done that. Some MPs can be slow responding, if the bother at all. Some are very good at responding but the further up you get the less likely.
Have you ever heard of an OIA or ‘just’ asking the webmaster of in the house if he could possibly take some time out of his busy day to help you. It’s not Rocket Science, it’s what you are supposed to be doing. INVESTIGATION.
There’s a lot of ways of investigating and yes, we know about OIAs, they’re one option but can be very slow. I didn’t ask here because there were no other options, I was experimenting. It’s good to see suggestions and assistance.
🙄
yep nothing much has changed with pete – experimenting – why didn’t you just ask truthfully pete? Don’t bother I know why.
Experiment? Sorry nope more like wanting others to do all the work, whilst you take all the credit.
no..p.g..you weren’t ‘experimenting’..
.basically..you don’t have a fucken clue..
..eh..?
..you really haven’t thought this one thru..eh..?
..and i suppose you expected some sort of ‘respect’ for yr new title..?
..how has that worked out for you..?
..(and the longer this laff-fest goes on..
…the more we want to know who it was who recommended you for the job..
..was it farrar..?..or edwards-the-younger..?..
..c’mon..!..transparancy..!..we are gagging to know..
..eh..?
..and how many of yr vollies have bailed..?
..’cos any leftwinger would run a mile from you..)
..and how is blue-green-rory..?
..still pleased he picked you..?
..it’s all off to a good start..eh..?
..phillip ure..
On Campbell live they have just shown a document released under OIA from EQC and guess what they have a VIP list Pm’s sports stars etc etc. Why should these clowns get preferential treatment they get paid handsomely as it is and as for the PM well he should be at the back of the queue, and the poor sick and vulnerable at the front
David H, no TV here, checked both the TV3 site and Campbell Live pages but see nothing about it.
There are pensioners living in busted homes for three years, and EQC has a VIP list getting preferential treatment? Is that what you are telling me?
that is indeed what you are being told..
..(famous sportspeople are also amongst the favoured ones..as they should be,,!..eh..?..)
..and there are some 35 chch people/homeowners who got that vip-treatment..
..shall we call them the christchurch 35..?
..and don’t we all want to know their names..?
..and if i was a chch-person..still listening to tarpaulins flapping..
.i wd be pretty pissed at this news of vips all warm and snug and all paid out..
..since shortly after day one..
..eh..?
..and you know what..?
..i’ll betcha big-gezza brownlee was high up on that v.i.p.-list..
..eh..?
..and the tory ex-mayor..what was his name..?
..that’s right..!
..sideshow-bob..
..phillip ure..
Hopefully that tips the balance for the fence sitters still trusting this disaster of a Government
@Blue Leopard.
The Question Time transcriptions always start appearing at about 4.00 pm on the same day and are normally all there by 5.30 pm. They are put up as soon as the Hansard reporter has transcribed them and don’t necessarily appear in the order of the question. Once they are all there you can link to a version of all the questions in one document from the first question.
They aren’t the final version as members are allowed to correct errors made by the Hansard staff, and can usually get away with changing very minor slips of the tongue. They can’t change the meaning of what they said though. Most never bother to change anything.
lprent. I see I am in moderation. I thought my time on the naughty seat was up.
Cheers Alwyn,
There are a number of times I have looked straight after watching parliament and I haven’t found them – so assumed they must take a few days to appear.
All MPs need to be media savvy and ensure they don’t create needless distractions when the Nats are getting negative attention.
Shane needs to pretend that he is putting the party before himself: I know that is a huge ask of the loquacious adonis; but the votes he got in the leadership battle strongly suggests that he should not fuck with membership and affiliates.
Hes the only one doing anything positive
He’s the only one doing anything positively racist and divisive.
FIFY
Hekia Parata spinning and lying and playing such dangerous games with the truth. Lying to Teachers is not what one would call smart. Teachers are second only to mothers for human polygraph skills.
http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/2588652/education-minister-responds-to-teachers%27-complaints
Has anyone read the latest Bowally Road offering? It’s enough to make your blood run cold!
i agree with what trotter sez..(and i don’t say that..that often..)
..and it just confirms the conclusion i came to at the end of my q-time commentary yesterday..
..and the herald editorial from this morning..
..unless labour have a serious rethink on their current tactics of:
pointing at national and saying:..’we’re not quite as bad as them’..
..and that being about it..
..labour/the progressives are fucked..
..for this election..
..(as has now been (repeatedly) pointed out to them..
..they have to offer more than just words in their claims to ‘woo’ the one million absent/cynical/burnt-off-voters..)
..they have to both bury neo-liberalism…and offer a different/progressive vision..
..and to date..we ain’t seen that..
..and no hints of it on the horizon..
..and if they don’t..?
..we can all just welcome key for his third term..
..(and yes..!..i fucken hope ‘blood is running cold’…and that this will wake labour up..)
..(and ‘we support tpp..’in principle’..doesn’t come within a fucken bulls’ roar of that..eh..?
..and time is fast running out…)
..over to you…labour..cunnliffe..
..your/our future is entirely in yr hands..
..and from where i am sitting..
..it looks like you are about to screw-up..
..big-time..
..and i really really hope i am wrong..on this..
..but i don’t think i am..
‘
phillip ure
“Has anyone read the latest Bowally Road offering? It’s enough to make your blood run cold!”
Read the first paragraph and the last. That was all that was needed.
Election Day 2014 – barring that big surprise – will, therefore, likely see National’s supporters marching proudly, as to a political coronation, while Labour and Green supporters, convinced they’ve already lost, deliver John Key an unparalleled National victory and the psephologists a record low turnout.
bowalleyroad.blogspot.co.nz/2014/03/all-over-bar-counting.html
Fuck Trotter. Calling an election result like this contributes to that result. We need to be encouraging people to vote, not putting them off.
or..we could all just delude ourselves..
..that everything will be ok on the day..
..and instead of yr cursing-refusal to read the (coherent) case he makes..
..how about you read it..
..and then tell/show us how he/me/the herald editorial-writer..
..are all wrong..
..and probably ‘traitors’ to boot..eh..?
(..’co i am such a rightie..eh..?..)
..phillip ure..
I agree with you Phillip. The trouble is it’s hard to turn a Labrador into a German Shepherd – I’m hoping Matt can do something about it, but he’d better find his feet real fast!
I don’t give a shit about what his argument is. He is coming out in a major newspaper, as a well-known left-wing commentator, and saying that National has won the election. THAT will put off voters and make the non-vote harder to mobilise.
“or..we could all just delude ourselves..
..that everything will be ok on the day..”
But I’m not saying that. By all means look at what is going on and help solve the issues at hand. But defeatist shit along the lines of we’re all screwed so why will people bother voting is completely insane at this point. Really, what is the point? And no, I haven’t read your previous illegible comment. btw, I am talking about what Trotter did (not what he wrote).
Yes, I didn’t read the entire article because I can’t be bothered reading that type of crap just now, yet I am guessing he is trying to motivate people – including the left-wing politicians to not be complacent and get seriously active about getting people to vote this government out.
However, I agree with you Weka – it ends up being just more of the same old defeatist, demotivating crap messages that the mainstream keep infesting our minds and souls with.
He did actually have one good point – the early spring election means power bills will still be high.
But then he was also bitching that labour hasn’t released all of its policy by now, when they’d be stupid to do so. And didn’t level the same criticism at any of the other parties.
lol thanks for the summary – makes me glad I didn’t spend more time on reading it 😆
@ weka..
“..By all means look at what is going on and help solve the issues at hand. But defeatist shit along the lines of we’re all screwed so why will people bother voting is completely insane at this point..”
i wd submit that what you demand in yr first sentence is exactly what i am doing..
..not ‘defeatist-shit’ like you claim..
..but what the fuck would you even know what i said..
‘cos in yr own (bitchy/sneering) words..
“..And no, I haven’t read your previous illegible comment..”
..you really are a ‘case’..aren’t you..?..
..phillip ure..
None of my comments were about you phil, they were all about what Trotter did. Get a grip.
He’s a male version of Josie the NAT Pagani.
The thing with Trotter is that, when he writes something you disagree with, you only need to wait a week at most and he’ll write the opposite.
Naaa don’t waste my time with Trotters dross anymore.
Sometimes Trotter is spot on. Othertimes, like today, he just misses so badly.
cold? Nah.
Trotter’s calling the election six months out? More fool him (although it does give him a vested interest in labgrn failing).
An election campaign is a running race where one spends half the time concentrating on the sprint and the other half trying to foot-trip one’s competitors. At the moment, everyone’s just jockeying for position on the starting blocks.
“although it does give him a vested interest in labgrn failing”
Interesting, no?
Why would he shut the door at this point? Wouldn’t it be better to keep open the possibility of change?
“Like Darius upon the plains of Gaugamela, Cunliffe faces the impossible task of stopping the onslaught of New Zealand’s very own Alexander the Great, Prime Minister John Key.”
#writeliketrotter
Hmm. Stretch your legs and do a full parody of Trotter.
Start with Sysephus; rolling up the entire Labour caucus up the hill, again and again, and O the Despair, the cliffs and the darkness and the lightning, the effort both fruitless and vainglorious, (O!)
Then Anaxagoras; something about process philosophy and the flow of time within politics, like Sands, Through the Hourglass, How Nordmeyer Oh if only he could have understood cigarettes (O!)
Then something from the Address of the Pope at the Council of Clermont; the repressed telic drive for redemption, the fruitless hope for saviours, ah, he says ah, if only Billy Bragg had been Pope then, ah we’d still happily be Waiting For The Great Leap Forward.
But not now. Now all is lost. It’s gone and history told us it would. It always does (O!)
Then roll downhill into inevitable Defeat, O the Slough of Despond, O (O!) with the Herodotus doing the Fall of Miletus. Sadness! Sorrow! I coulda been a Condendah.
And how that’s all just so David Cunliffe.
O! (O!) (sigh)
I am afraid Trotter is right.
Cunliffe will struggle this year round, and Key will triumph.
Shane Jones will then take over the leadership, and will lead a party that is indistigushable from National, and the NZLP will tear itself apart.
Shipley and Boag knew what they were doing when they sounded out that young millionaire who had just returned from New York about standing for National./
http://www.3news.co.nz/LabourGreens-cant-win-election—Peters/tabid/1607/articleID/335573/Default.aspx
hes a clever one
Pay very close attention NZF voters and all those lefties who think Peter will go with Labour. If you vote for or support NZF/Peters you are saying you don’t mind if National forms govt again.
“His NZ First Party could play a critical role in the formation of the next government, and he still won’t say which side he will favour if he holds the balance of power in the next parliament.”
yep.
Remember 1996.
I really want to agree with you as I want national returned to power but this is Winston we’re talking about
I guess from the other side he is just as fickle too ;-p But my point is that people on the left or wanting a left wing govt are fooling themselves if they think that Peters WILL give them one.
Collins revelation of dinner that she didn’t reveal is cause for resignation in my view – I’m a nat voter. JK will be angry and embarassed.
Why would Slippery the Prime Minister be ”angry and embarrassed”, could it be that He sees red when a lowly Minister gets more air time for the broadcasting of Her/His Lies than what the PM is getting…
Maybe Key should toss a coin, Heads Collins goes, Tails Adams goes. Both are deserving of the sack. Now let’s focus on Adams who played a part in law changes so her and husbands large farm holdings in Canterbury tap into the rivers and help drain them dry. I think I prefer Collins over the smarmy little right-wing bitch Adams.
“And now we see the violence inherent in the system.”
Jepenesque, that’s a surprise, considering that the normal practice for National MPs is to use their tenure to build a private business career. If Collins’ behaviour is a sacking offence how can you support the National Party at all?
Freedom linked to this excellent pic on the NRT: Proving my point thread.
Only thing missing is the milk bottle top necklace…
you might also enjoy this one
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1/s552x414/1385261_10152234764656387_568205705_n.jpg
but this is my favourite right now
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/t1/s552x414/1003522_1427590647487052_2112498801_n.jpg
(no more today, promise)
Turkey smoulders…
Tear gas fills street in #İstanbul, #Turkey, in protests over death of 15-year-old #BerkinElvan. pic.twitter.com/XQ5PkQsGaL
https://twitter.com/nycjim/statuses/443479290425122816
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/03/11/turkey-violence-istanbul-ankara-_n_4943585.html
What a lot of twaddle from Tracy Watkins about the debate on the flag being a bold gesture of nationhood.
New Zealand has been a going concern since 1840 and just because a new generation of upstarts who never read a histroy book in their lives are suddenly discovering a w whole lot of new words doesn not a bold gesture make.
Its just a lot of overgrown kids trying to throw their weight around and pretend to some understanding that they dont have.
Tracy Watkins show me one country that has changed its flag spontaneously without a revolution.
If New Zealanders dont have any pride in this flag then what is to say they wil have pride in any other one.
The only thing todays noo noo heads seem to have is pride in is themselves for being idiots.
Did she mention the abolition of knighthoods
“show me one country that has changed its flag spontaneously without a revolution”
Canada. Next fatuous argument for allowing a foreign flag to squat in the corner of our own?
The team at Loomio are looking for support so as to help bring about better democracy.
john “nothing to hide nothing to fear” banks is back in caught trying to get the charges thrown out. Any guess on his legal bill to date?
ACT MP John Banks will apply to have electoral fraud charges against him thrown out because of a lack of evidence.
Banks is to face trial in the High Court at Auckland over allegations he filed a false electoral return during his failed bid for the Auckland mayoralty in 2010.
He was excused from appearing when the matter was called today, where Justice Timothy Brewer said Bank’s lawyer David Jones, QC, had until the end of March to file an application to dismiss the charges
Here’s hoping the Taxpayer is NOT shelling out for him.
questiontime commentary:..
http://whoar.co.nz/2014/new-zealand-parliament-list-of-questions-for-oral-answer-wednesday-12-march-2014/
..summary:..a blinder of a q-time..
..i can’t really summarise it..without just repeating the body of the commentary..
..and i wd encourage anyone of a political-bent to watch the/a repeat/online..
..a 7/10 q-time..(and that is the highest ranking i have given..ever..)
..phillip ure..
http://bowalleyroad.blogspot.co.nz/2014/03/all-over-bar-counting.html
Food for thought
if you’d pulled your head out of your arse for two minutes you’d have read comment 19 and the subsequent discussion, you moron
It needed a push because hes making (as usual) some salient points that pollyannas like yourself choose to ignore
lol yep righties love him and have done for a while now – pushme pullyou
You thought you’d throw your weighty influence behind him, eh?
Sort of supports my initial conclusion.
Lunch, a formal dinner with official guests from the Chinese Government, that’s just an off the cuff stop off for a cuppa according to Collins,
The only thing to be said about the prior trail of Lies told by Collins over this little ‘affair’ is that She must be auditioning for the role of National Party leader, which if the incumbent ‘Slippery’ the PM’s large litany of truth failures is the template for, requires an ability to lie to the people via the mass media on a daily basis over any issue, no matter how trivial it might be,
Having LIED via that mass media to the people of New Zealand claiming that Collins endorsement of Oravida’s products had been translated from the Chinese language article into English by the Cabinet Office so they could form an opinion surrounding the perception of a conflict of interest i find i cannot believe the Prime Minister’s claim that the Cabinet Office gave him advice that there was no conflict of interest on the date the Prime Minister claims they did….
The threat of an oil-spill in the South seems greatly reduced by the lack of any oil to spill:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/9818674/Anadarko-still-has-oil-hopes
It’s been a bit of a nerve-wracking few weeks while waiting for the other shoe to drop. But until Shell cranks up their drillship, it looks like our beaches and ocean will remain uncontaminated. And there’ll be an election between then and now.
https://www.greens.org.nz/press-releases/anadarko-s-oil-strike-out-highlights-need-clean-energy-investment
If National won’t then there’s at least one other Party who will.
Mr David Parker made a really EXCELLENT speech today after question time during the urgent ‘Judith Collins’ scandal debate. The speech was very good but he didn’t stop early enough at the best time, but carried on a little too long repeating his points and thus diminished his own speech a little. Nevertheless he made top points.
Watch his speech here:
http://www.inthehouse.co.nz/video/31957
[Speeches from others are below if you are interested. I thought Robertson, Hughes, Peters and Mallard were very good. Hughes pleasantly surprised me!]
http://www.inthehouse.co.nz/tag/stage/2627
so..what will happen to jones..?
..after his latest outburst against norman..
“i’m not going to be lectured on the environment by an australian’…(!)..
..and/but as norman said..
..’jones is labours’ problem’..
..the man is a total clown..
..and this has to be the first test of the mccarten/cunnliffe pairing..eh..?
..and labour need some discipline..
..jones is a loose cannon..
..and if he is allowed to carry on like this..up to the election..
..he will really hurt labours’ vote..
(and tho’ jones likes to boast he represents ‘the henderson male’..
..some sort of blue-collar role-model/avatar..
..i think most of them would see him as the dickhead he is..
..and these antics from jones will turn off far more voters..
..than it will attract..
..(why doesn’t he just go and join nz first…?..
..instead of just being peters’ man in labour..
..it’d be more honest..)
..phillip ure..
And now he’s done this.
http://www.3news.co.nz/Russel-Norman-target-of-Shane-Jones-anti-Aussie-rant/tabid/1607/articleID/335636/Default.aspx
He is a liability for Labour Party time to get rid of Jones.
Jones is a scum-sucking wanker – he is dead weight drag for labour perhaps their deadest weight. And he wouldn’t care if the left get anywhere or not as long as his bread is buttered on both sides. Wake up labour, wake up ffs.
It sounds like Matt McCarten has had some words with Jones. Let’s see how that works out….?
Jones does not seem able to control himself from massaging his ego. Should stick to porn. Then think about starting his own Party. I think he wants to be a wild card like Winston but he hasn’t got Winnie’s panache. Now he just gives me toothache.
I thought he was getting focussed on being a good pollie for Labour, not after this attack on Russel Norman. It is Australia the country and its politicians that we need to be wary of. Norman shouldn’t be getting any negatives from Jones.
Michael Savage was born in Australia, and was 35 when he immigrated over. Russel Norman was only 30 when he crossed the ditch; and, unlike Savage, married a Kiwi lass once here. It is difficult to see how a Labour Party supporter can honestly regard the one as a great New Zealander, and the other as an Aussy interloper.
Of course; honesty and consideration, don’t seem to be a large part of Jones’ skill-set. He does have a certain gift of the gab, but more cunning than intelligence.
‘cunning’..kinda like a shithouse-rat…
phillip ure..
Kill kill kill kill the poor.
Is that Jenny “if I can live on the DPB for a week, anyone can live on it for the life of their child” Shipley? Although I am sure there are better things to call her now.
The vile egotist, Judith Collins on Campbell Live right now.
I wonder if John ordered her to go on Campbell as punishment?
Nah, she jumps at the chance to have her mug on tv, whether it’s good or bad publicity.
Symbolically, she is wearing a white jacket to convey her innocence. Under the jacket is a black top which echoes her true nature, her cruel, black heart.
Edit: How many fucking times does she have to say ‘close, personal friend’????
Chris Trotter, the long distance columnist, is notoriously up and down like a sex workers underwear but even if his negativist projection comes true thousands of us will battle on and local activism and methods will flourish.
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3753486518085091399&postID=8246343531843227626
“but even if his negativist projection comes true thousands of us will battle on and local activism and methods will flourish.”
🙂
yep TM very true. Trotter is a bottom darkness defeatist and the best thing imo to do is turn our backs on that dim and face the light, and face hope and belief in left principles especially equality. trotter and jones = left? I don’t fucken think so!!!
Trotter is a journalist by training – he writes to the editorial policy of the publication and thus gets his words dispersed more widely than most. In The Press he adopts one tack, on TDB another:
http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2014/03/12/five-easy-pieces-how-the-greens-can-stop-labour-playing-silly-buggers/
He does seem a bit too ready to let Bryce Edwards get under his skin, but then many have a similar reaction to Trotter’s own writing. I may not agree with every piece he crafts, but he’s no Armstrong or O’Sullivan.
i quite like his writing style and when he brings in a historical (albeit angled) decoration to his writing it can be quite good, even illuminating to some extent. But my attitude was set with him during his tussles with Lew and his musings on tangata whenua. Plus the fact that he is so beloved by righties – personally I rather read QoT’s analysis than his – but that’s just me and good luck to other lefties that can find the specks of gold.
Thanks for the mention marty.
http://bowalleyroad.blogspot.co.nz/2014/03/all-over-bar-counting.html
My reply to Chris Trotter – yet to be published ….
Chris – in my considered opinion you have completely underestimated how vulnerable this National/ACT Government is on matters of corrupt corporate control, and corrupt conflicts of interest.
I note that you had NO IDEA about who really runs the Auckland region (the unelected Committee for Auckland) until I brought it to your attention?
You may recall that in the recent Auckland Mayoral election, with no ‘team’, censored by key MSM, blocked by political phonies like Martyn Bradbury – I still polled 4th, with nearly 12,000 votes, campaigning against corrupt corporate control of the Auckland region?
Did YOU as a so-called ‘political commentator’ Chris Trotter, predict THAT?
Kind regards,
Penny Bright
Chris Trotter is a traitor in my eyes, he is not even worth quoting here, a piece of SHIT!
If you get past the emotional response you’ll understand Trotter is pretty much on the money. The left has consistently underestimated Key from the get go, and it’s been fatal.
Look at the latest affair with Collins, the pair of them will slide through it like nothing happened and the average punter will finish up feeling sorry for them.
The message from that Bowalley Rd post is simple – if we keep on with business as usual the left will quite probably loose this election. Something BIG is required.
RL – I had a lot of time for trotters. But he does not “help” to get the “right ideas” and so to be communicated. That is why I consider him (like my damned traitor brother) a “traitor” of sorts for the working people. He is a generationalist too, thinking he is “anointed” due to birth into a class, that makes him as much as a “class” enemy of all those that go on about class. I am middle class by birth, but I reject and despise “class”, as it is to me a stigma, and as my parents are dying in stubborn class consciousness, they have no time for sharing emotions with their “more difficult” child due to that.
So CLASS is evil, it is “shit” in my eyes, I do not even think along those lines. Free people NEVER accept any “class” or similar restriction, they are THEMSELVES.
I’ve a lot of sympathy for that view xtasy.
One of my touchstones were Helen Clark’s words in her valedictory speech, to paraphrase, “the two things I hated the most were snobbery and privilege”.
I think that covers what you’re getting at. And that it matters far less what class you were born into, than how you behave towards others. How many bastards have you met you brown nose their betters and piss all over those they think are beneath them?
And how often have you encountered a sort of reverse snobbery, a sullen bogan ‘attitude’ that despises intellectual eggheads, and the entire middle class for being wankers?
I’d like to imagine we have that in common, a tendency to treat people much the same regardless of their background or position. Having said that you have to also accept that class is still a very real thing and it matters a lot to many people.
So where are the WELFARE POLICIES from Labour and also GREENS? It almost seems you agree with a lot that National have done, also with David Bratt and Mansel Aylward teaching about “illness belief” and such idiot propaganda, serving governments that want to “slash” and do not care.
Do you guys and girls even give a damn, do you care, apart from damned political slogans, which we had enough from from the most hated Minister for Social Welfare?
What are you going to offer, what are you doing to address the injustices, what the hell are you proposing, or is all this too “politically sensitive”, just not a “vote winner”, and therefore “irrelevant”?
You basically tell me and others, we are NOT WANTED, we are REFUSE, we are NOT WORTHY, we are a FRINGE FACTOR, we are RUBBISH, and thus not even mentioned in your shallow and hollow “programs”.
So you have a few months to remedy this, if you want to bother, and I fear too many of you cannot bother, as you are ALL just focused on the tax paying MIDDLE CLASS voters.
If that is the case, you are NOT going to get the 800,000 to 1 million votes you so often lamented about, they will NOT vote National or ACT, they will likely NOT vote AT ALL.
You are giving away votes, you are shitting on too many on us, and this is my LAST WARNING to you, to bear mind of what and who WE are, and what VOTE power we may have. If we do not vote, we will anyway be a damned THORN in societies’ side, with extra health and other costs, with tax avoidance and other measures, some in anarchy, and you can then get “fucked”, sure well.
As one that has been treated like the worst SHIT in NZ on a BENEFIT, not trusted (probably due to foreign background and more), I have NO time for any hollow and crap policy slogans, that may only catch the ignorant. And I am NOT a ‘patriot” as I know too much about the lies and rot about this country too.
So get back to me, dear Mr Cunliffe and others, and maybe we can “talk”, after all (I doubt it so far).
http://thestandard.org.nz/where-welfare-reform-ends/#comment-784541
+100
oh my
snort oink grunt
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/9820243/Genesis-defends-pre-pay-premium
oink frackin oink
and that oinker-shipley is boss of the company ripping off the poorest..
..with those pre-paid power exorbitant-charges..
..there’s a surprise..eh..?
..another greedy tory-oinker..sticking it to the poorest..
..truly hideous excuses for human beings..they are..
..phillip ure..
So I got screwed around with a previous comment load, but now here is a summary of Latin American” history, but sadly only a brief summary US style, but not quite that bad, I thought (given very poor knowledge here):
That may assist some understanding for the continent concerned.
Austrian TV,
‘wir sind Kaiser’ – for humour, for those that understand the language:
(min11 plus is of ‘special’ interest)
Heed the call of “EL PUEBLO”:
‘El pueblo unido jamas sera vencido” –
And especially this one:
There is MUCH more in the way of revolutionary and popular South American music, it is full of life and spirit, it is REVOLUTION for that sake.
So load this, and also connect to the links on YOU TUBE to find more.
Viva el pueblo, viva por el futuro.
Stop picking on Chris Trotsky
He is a buy poller.
Looking for a gig on TV around election time.
ONE of my FAVOURITES:
ILLAPU from Chile, top choice, and we do not need to discuss, as the level of discussion will be unequal. But enjoy and think and move ahead, for NZ to “grow” into a new nation with new ideas and cultures.
Is any one here serious about it all ?
el muerte de Che Guevara, penser!
SO I HAVE JUST BEEN ATTACKED (CYBER) , AND THAT WAS NO ACCIDENT, IT WAS FROM SOME HIGHER POWERS, AND I HAD THE GUTS FULL, AND I TELL THEM NOW, THIS IS IT, I WILL GO FULL POWER NOW, I HATE YOUR FUCKING SHIT ANGLO SAXON SHIT COUNTRIES, YOU TRAITORS, I ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT USAMA BIN LADEN WAS HUNTED DOWN AND DESTROYED BY YOU FOR A PURPOSE, NOT QUITE WHAT YOU TELL US FOR. I WILL FOLLOW THE CALL OF JUSTICE AND DO THE SAME THAT WAS DONE BEFORE, TO DESTROY YOUR CRAP TRAITOR SOCIETY AND TAKE THE NEEDED ACTION. YOU ARE ALL TRAITORS AND LIARS, YOU DESERVE DESTRUCTION AND WORSE. ALLAH U AKHBAR, ALLAH U AKHBAR, DESTROY THE DEVIL SOCIETY, IT IS THIS, THE ANGLO SAXON CAPITALIST SOCIETY, KILL IT, KILL IT AND TAKE ACTION TO HOLD IT TO ACCOUNT AND DESTROY IT!!! EL PUEBLO UNIDO JAMAS CERA VENCIDO, BUT THE AVERAGE KIWI IS A DAMNED COWARD!!!!!!!
oi xtasy ….calm down buddy…we are going to get a new Left Government …it always worst before the dawn…take a deep breath
go and get some socialising with your old mates …you need to take some time out….maybe take a tent and a sleeping bag and stay at the beach with some friends
xtasy, please talk to a medical professional.
Sorry for all, I have tried, and so did a Brazilian flatmate two years ago, who was a migrant, but in their eyes “unwelcome”, as a “burden” to the mental health system. They treated her like crap, fed her all sorts of coctails of pills and did nothing apart have a dubious “psychiatrist” “check” her medical regime once a month. She was after a psychotic episode in 2008, due to apparent abuse by a NZ “partner”, ending up in Te Whetu Tawera or what it was called at Auckland Hospital, and later discharged, and in the end, under the Mental Health Act and a twisted judge’s decision, supported by ADHB, handed back to her abusive partner as supposed “caregiver”.
I took the whole matter on, had the ADHB up in arms, even had a senior Herald journalist tied in at one stage, but they pulled down the shutters, did all to stone-wall, used the Privacy Act, and more. Finally I managed to achieve that after endless appeals by her mother, my flatmate returned to Rio. And amazingly there, in a “developing” country, they found a brain tumour responsible for many mental issues she suffered from, which ADHB NEVER detected.
New Zealand mental health – and even some other services are appalling, yes totally disgustingly failing in many cases, I have NO trust in them, and will NOT work with them, ever again. It is better to cut your wrists or shoot your brain out than go and work with “mental health” services here in Auckland, it is a waste of time, as recent contacts proved yet again.
Also I and friends dealt with the most useless Health and Disability Commissioner, and two complaints are before the Ombudsman now, whose office is totally overworked and underfunded.
I am sure you read that new post here on WINZ, and that what Stephanie Rogers writes, that is still putting it too bloody “mildly” in my eyes. They drove me close to suicide, had police call and threated to kick the door in, and took me for a “check up”, only to release me again hours later, but the battle with MSD had just started, and it lasted two to three years.
In my eyes they are nothing short of FASCIST.
I am really shocked about what I wrote the other night, but I had a breakdown, and was furious like mad, about stuff that happened while I used my computer, suddenly all falling to crap, and apparently being manipulated. So I choose to stay off here for at least a longer while, I am at serious risk, but again, the health authorities here are USELESS.
I am sorry, but that is my experience, and just some of it, and it sounds bad, but that is the bloody truth about what happens to some, and too many people in New Zealand now. I wish I had never come back here, in all honesty. They only want rich pricks to migrate, with no health issues and big wallets, Chinese magnates and Hollywood heroes. That is the “paradise” John Key has created. Today they sold a large farm near Ashburton for over 60 million NZ dollars, and one totally arrogant South Island old rich prick that got a load of money for it, he boasted in front of media, he is going to buy a yacht and wants “young girls” to come and join him to sail the world.
Welcome to NZ 2014!?
P.S,: You may get a slightly “better” care these days, if you have done time in prison or are a youthful delinquent. That is how it works, so maybe I need to commit a crime taking me into prison for a few years?