Guyon Espiner reckons you’re the left’s equivalent of Whaleoil. I’m suspicious; there are so many similarities. You both blog, you both go on holiday at the same time, and to the best of my knowledge you’ve never been seen in the same room at the same time. Is there something we should be told?
Your assertion does not appear to correspond to reality. Bomber points to the differences; between himself and Slater, which he has no wish to emulate, in a post this very morning:
This line of attack that the Left blogs somehow get up to the same level of dirty tactics that the right do is an utter lie. I am in contact with all the Left wing Parties all the time, but sweet Christ I don’t get briefings from the SIS! I don’t trawl brothels to try and entrap Len Brown, John Boscowan, Labour MPs, the Herald’s editors or Duncan Garner! I don’t blackmail MPs into standing down! I don’t hack political party computers, I don’t arrange to have prisoners moved to remote prisons who then attempt suicide. I don’t go onto Wikipedia and edit in sexual smears about MPs! I don’t get police evidence from the Minister of Fucking Police to publish on TDB and I don’t get OIA requests that are worded for me!
You were mentioned on National Radio as an example of an anonymous Labour Party blogger Micky, though everyone knows your name and that you are not a member of Mr Cunliffe’s staff.
So according to Joyce the Hager book is all old stuff and nothing to be ashamed of. Poor Mr Key was on a very long flight to somewhere and unable to talk to anyone.
I can honestly say I do not get paid to blog, especially from the likes of British Tobacco or Fonterra. I do it in the hope that my contribution to the standard helps the progressive movement.
My actual identity is well known. I outed myself nearly 4 years ago.
The only similarity between me and Slater is that we are bipedal males.
Though he’s not so fat, Jabba the Hutt always comes to mind when slater’s photo appears.
edit: hmm. I appear to have been imprecise as to the subject of the sentence. Better change it otherwise tories will be all pc about fat-shaming and probably call me anti-Semitic to boot:
Though slater’s not so fat, Jabba the Hutt always comes to mind when slater’s photo appears.
Headline news at 7
Yes it’ll be very interesting to see how the MSM handle this story.
As they repeat many of the stories sourced from these dubious origins, they are compromised.
Saw tvnz news at 10.30 where big head boyed had a go at discrediting hager and asking about the left and their dirty politics even cut him off which is very sloppy even by tvnz standards.
hager handled it ok you can see the counter measures and note to tvnz; a pre recorded interview should be edited if practical to remove the impatience and bias of the churnalist.
I laughed like crazy at the Key accusation of “left wing conspiracy theorist”…so John, tell me the bits he has not got right so far? He has been right on the ball on everything to date.
Nicky Hagar wasn’t feeling particularly left wing when he wrote seeds of distrust……….And as it was pointed out by Liam Luff on the radio this morning, if it weren’t for Nicky Hagar, Key wouldn’t be in job now, after The Hollow Men exposed Brash and the Crosby Textor tactics, and everything turned to custard for Brash
Yes he would. Brash said in his autobiography that he stitched up a deal with Key that Key would replace him as PM after about a year of him winning the 2005 election.
Can’t say I’ve ever read Brash’s biography so wasn’t aware of that little gem.
Remember the expose on Brash contributed to his downfall. Had Hollow Men not been published and life had trundled on normally for the National Party, then in an alternate universe they won with Brash at the helm in 2008, imagine the damage that could have been done under him within a year would have even been worse that it had been in that first year under Key.
Even if Brash would have been replaced by Key within a year as you say, at least the Hollow Men fast tracked the demise of Brash, putting Key in the job well before he would have been other wise.
Key emerged from Brash’s ashes as the New Golden Leader, so funnily enough he does owe his fortunes, in part, to Hagar.
I, of course, haven’t read it either. It came out in the publicity for it.
And yes, Key’s rise to power as opposition leader was probably cleaner than a coup for the PM would have been, but the fact that they considered it is par for the course for the nats.
Personally, I have always suspected that Key was the one who leaked Brash’s emails to Hagar – only going on a gut feeling of course. I always say to myself “Who benefits by this” when looking for a likely culprit!!
Brash was a man out of his depth.
I was present on an occasion leading up to a debate where he had no opinion of his own, everything was party policy. In fact he often asked Richard Long, “what’s our line on this?”
Nothing on Stuff.co.nz front page and Herald headline halfway down is simply John Key’s denial.
This is exposing more than Key. This is exposing ms “print” media also. Looks like it may be largely left to Campbell to follow… I hope he has the stomach for it.
A dry throat is often a physical symptom of telling a lie and therefore the person telling the lie will often find that they need to swallow a lot more in order to keep their throat lubricated. In addition this swallowing is also designed to bring about a break in the conversation in order to facilitate the liar thinking for a few seconds.
Eh? Wasn’t aware he has a problem in that area. It’s not obvious in his speech.
Edit: Just looked at a bio and you are right. That might explain it. But so can the bullshitting, panicking liar theory. They’re not mutually exclusive.
“When he was a kid, David Farrar suffered from a grinding speech defect. Language had arrived relatively late, and when the magic finally came it sometimes felt like the words were sticking to the back of his throat, crawling out of his mouth, marking him as some kind of fool. For a time, life seemed to have delivered him a raw deal. As he recalls, it took the better part of a decade of intensive speech therapy to get his language fully up and running. Even in 2012, Farrar admits, he sometimes needs to practise a new word as many as a dozen times before he feels confident enough”
No doubt he puts as much effort into his denials and spin lines .
But good on him for overcoming his disability TRPs link to body language site is poor science their is no scientific relation between body language and lying how ever their is a link between obfuscation and lying not answering a question directly is sure sign of lying!
Paul Henry had a ‘speed reader’ on Nicky Hager’s book–Charles Finny from lobbyists Saunders Unsworth no less! Our pompous man decided there was nothing to see here, not worth purchasing, “the beltway” people knew all this anyway, and advised people just to download “Dirty Politics” from the net “when someone puts it there” and he did not seem to mean a paid digital copy from Unity Books.
Well Charles the news for you is that thousands of people do not engage with political blogs or facebook or the internet that much at all like some of us do. They still read books and Hager will reach some of these people before September 20. They will be not be impressed with what they read.
This will be a vote changer for some, and there is still Dotcom’s Sept 15 meeting tick tick ticking.
I’m only half way through the book and it’s like wow! my jaw is still dropped.It’s joined lots of dots.
I imagine the lights burned all last night at Nact’s headquarters and a lot of other places. The internal Nact bloodletting must be a sight to behold given the internal party type attacks undertaken. I imagine it’s divided into 3 groups, the “yea we did it”, “why did you get caught” and “what the F did you do it for”.
Lots of lawyers fees coming down the track. All corporates should probably check they are not advertising on the blog and
‘sorry MickyS you have picked the wrong time to be on holiday”
Hey Micky “Watergate 2” Nixon. “I have never lied” – “I will resign effective at noon today”
Should now be Key’s turn at these immortal words.
When you get back march around to the electoral Commission office with a copy of Dirty politics and request they review every page in the book and request a ruling (legal) that there is or mot any political advertising evidence in the book that the NatZ have used illegally hacked from Labour and SIS files and used on a public media whale oil blog site please?
Ask “Electoral Commission go check the book out for wrongful electionerring by NatZ here please?”
while there Micky ask them can we have the excellent song/video Planet Key back on MSM please?
Maybe we can add some rope with a neck loop around a branch on a tree inserted in that paddock and all opposition targeted MP;s standing around like Hang em high?
The difference in the manner and tone of Guyon Espiner’s interview with Stephen Joyce and his interview of David Cunliffe was so striking as to be both embarrassing and distressing for those of us who hold treasured notions about RNZ’s political neutrality. For example, he did not challenge Joyce when he claimed Hager is a conspiracy theorist and allowed him to be evasive about Judith Collin’s relationship with Cameron Slater but harassed Cunliffe over his relationship with Greg Presland. His partisan attitude has been shamefully apparent previously but in the context of this current situation it was appalling.
I think perhaps the best thing about this book is that it will force journalists to prove they deserve that designation and are not just churnalists and PR puppets who do the bidding of the National Party and the economic elites.
Some are so stupid and/or so mired in their role as the latter nothing will change, but others will have to choose between knowing that Nicky Hager is an internationally respected investigative journalist who is scrupulous in his research – and the demands of their paymasters to join the chorus of those who are trying to discredit Hager’s work by labelling him as a ‘screaming left-wing conspiracy theorist’.
And let them be torn. It throws a spotlight on the schism that exists between journos and commentators with intelligence and integrity – and the rest.
Did anyone get out of bed with an extra spring in their step this morning?
Heading out the door soon to get my copy of Dirty Politics. Wondering how this will play out over the next few weeks. Will the govt manage to effectively dilute any reaction using the reasoning on the bingo board weka posted last night on karols first post on the book? They will be “on message”, spinning for their lives.
Or will NZer’s who by and large do still have a sense of fair play, want to see justice done, the characters held to account?. Will they be put off giving their loyal vote to a party they once believed in? Not all National voters are RWNJ’s, they are just ignorant and have poor judgement, but such deceit they may not be able to stomach.
I sure did because this is the lefts last roll of the dice and its turned out be nothing but smears, half-truths and insinuations but no proof so its all good from here on in
God you’re funny pukish brogue (Watch out, that’s puke on your shoes! Oh no, or is bile from Wail Oil’s gut?)
So I take it you purchased a copy of the book from Unity in Willis St, Wellington yesterday and have read the book overnight? No? Didn’t think so.
Pretty confident for day one of the dissection of the content of the book, or is it that you are just parroting your vile masters? Did you all receive the memo about staying “on message” with your spin?
…………..Possibly because Key was intentionally kept at a certain distance to keep himself “clean and untainted”? Key’s hardly going to get his hands dirty is he?
“He relates the situation to United States politics, where “the leader is kept clean” while “there is a system of people, including the Prime Minister’s office to Cameron Slater and various other National Party activist friends, who are being used in continuous and organised attacks on their opponents”.
I haven’t got time for this Puke. I’ve got to go. I’ve got my name down for a copy of the book at soon as it arrives it the local book store, either later today or tomorrow. I suggest you do the same too.
btw, what is Hooton’s relationship with Slater? Katherine Ryan is just pointing out that Hooton is part of the cabal, and is in the book, and asking Hooton if there is anything he wants to discuss. WTF? Why is Hooton even on RNZ this morning as one of their political commentators. Complete conflict of interest.
Almost total fail from Ryan and her producers on what the point of Hager’s book is. She seems to think it’s just the normal rough and tumble of party politics, with a new twist of the blogging medium.
A pathetic offering from RNZ this morning, couldn’t find anyone more interesting talk to than Hooton and Williams.
Extreme turncoat Michael Bassett indulging in some revolting, smearing whataboutery on ZB. Playing the victim card. Calls Hager a “ferret faced fruitcake”.
If I wanted to stoop to gutter politics I could probably come up with an apt moniker for Michael Bassett but I am so enjoying the unobstructed view from the moral high ground I won’t. But, I do think it is my duty as a citizen to tell everyone I know that Bassett’s response is to Hager’s book was spiteful and ad hominem and suggest they share it with all the people they know.
Same as sharing Slater’s comments about eastern Christchurch ….
Just like they have most definitely not forgotten Slater on the West Coast. Have received comms from people there overnight relishing this – Slater has made very real enemies and I would not like to be in his shoes
Slater’s display of sociopathic tendencies (I mean that seriously, coming from the abnormal psychology perspective) within his words particularly on the young man from the West Coast killed in the car accident, and the people of CHCH in Feb 2011 have made my brain explode with incomprehension at such cruelty.
Why anyone would support such vile person by reading his blog is beyond me.
The most that I’ve ever had has been people suggesting that I have a look at something and maybe write about it. Oh and the odd Q&A that I’ve set up where we do a guest post from named politicians.
Nothing like the paid orders that Cameron Slater appears to have been taking from Key, Ede, Collins, Fonterra, Posts of Auckland, Tobacco trilobites, Graham and many others.
It looks like Cameron Slater never really says no to cash.
Yep. And nothing like releasing smears through WO (Len Brown for instance) that is then picked up by the MSM.
You just need to compare what we post.
I pretty much always use evidence that is in the public domain – most of it gained from online searches – occasionally hard copy print material, or my own reports from public meetings.
Suggestions from others comes in the form marked as “guest post”.
And nothing like the alleged digging for sleaze and using it to blackmail pollies or journos.
The one thing that HAS really surprised me, is indications of putting pressure on some journos, under threat of releasing info about their private lives. I’d never considered that might have been going on. I’d always thought the dominant rightward leaning form of MSM journalism, was due to the political leanings of the editors, and possibly also many journalists.
I am not happy with the way Joyce, Key et al, are trying to defend themselves by throwing mud at us all. Their claims that we all (especially singling out TS) do what WO and KB have been doing, is just spreading mis-information – smoke and mirrors to cover their own ethically challenged methods.
And I’ve NEVER been offered money (or payment in kind) to blog at TS.
Exactly mr felix, that is the sense I get from listening to all the apologists so far such as Hooton, Joyce, Hosking, etc etc…
The Nats are all at sea at the moment and have no idea how to respond. They have been caught in the headlights like possums. They have been genuinely surprised and caught out.
So when by Marcus Lush asked if there were any links (and proff, lets not forget proof) Hager couldn’t provide any…as I said yesterday: its a damp squib but it won’t stop the left calling for John Key to resign even though theres no proof of wrong doing
Better luck next time but I’m sure Cam appreciates the extra publicity 🙂
I will not be in the least bit surprised if Trevor Mallard turns out to have been fed false information about exploited railway workers, and looks like a total idiot in the process, while letting his team down. Hope I’m wrong.
Um, isn’t Slater the master at putting up people’s addresses? And I seem to recall he got a criminal conviction for outing an innocent family. Pot, kettle etc.
Ha! I love your optimism. The first thing Cameron did about the fb post that so outrages you was to post a picture of the woman concerned. I’m really not sure he’s learned his lesson, Pukish.
I know the moderators don’t like people telling them how to run the site but PR’s constant linking to that site has got to stop. Not to mention the trolling.
If there was a report button, I’d use it right now.
The one person apparently mixed up in this mess that has really surprised me is Katherine Rich, former National MP – I haven’t read the book yet, and I’m dying to know what part Ms Rich has played in the whole nasty story! John Campbell showed her photo as part of the web of people involved last night on Campbell Live!
Why so surprised about Rich’s inclusion in the web? Big-Milk, Tobacco and Alcohol were clearly funding Slater’s poisonous activities, why not the Supermarket duopoly’s lobbyist too?
The appointment of the head of an influential lobby group for the food industry to a health promotion agency is not a conflict of interest, Prime Minister John Key said… Food and Grocery Council chief executive Katherine Rich.
The council represented the $15 billion food and beverage industry and was an influential voice on food legislation and trade practices.
I wouldn’t hold Simon Power in such high esteem. He allegedly has quite a lot to answer for about the SCF debacle and their admittance to the Crown Guarantee Scheme..
It’s a shame that no investigative journalist has yet looked into the SCF entry to the Crown Guarantee Scheme, as that is the biggest fraud in NZ’s history imo.
Fully agree mate. Wishart had a look at it but really only scratched the surface. Would dearly love Hager to have a crack at the SCF case however as from what I am led to believe, it would be explosive and could quite conceivably leave this present episode for dead by way of political exposure.
“NOTE – BREAKING NEWS: There are some allegations starting to be revealed that show some Mainstream Media Personalities may be being blackmailed to support National – via their commentaries, after allegedly Prostitutes were approached and information requested about who in the Media were frequent ‘customers’! This would explain much of the media’s constant defense of Scumbags Slater and Key, and their attacks on Left Wing Parties.”
TV3 has reported that the Greens have laid a complaint-with-police:
I was quite irritated with the dirty tactics of the Greens here!
It is people in the Labour party, Goff, Winston etc that should be considering this police complaint rather than the party vote stealing political scavengers, the Greens. Shameless Plonkers!
What wrong with that Clemgeopin? I admire that they have kicked off the formal proceedings into investigating the alleged events. This is a national scandal after all. RNZ reported that Labour are speaking with lawyers at present, so they may also follow with a police complaint.
Oh, Rosie! Can’t you see what is blatantly obvious here? The Greens are simply exploiting the situation ahead of Labour to get some publicity, come across to the public as their saviours, the good guys and grab some more party votes off Labour. Pathetic cheap two bit parasitic plonkers. Of all the parties, the most calculated innocent looking political and electoral harm to the Labour’s party is done by the Greens.
Encroaching on the Labour’s traditional voters and traditional social policies and stealing our party votes is not something I can see as ‘good’ in my eyes. If Greens stick to their traditional environmental clean green policies, sure, you have a point. What they are now doing is cheap political stunts and calculated cunning harming Labour not only in grabbing our votes but scaring off some left and centre voters off towards National and NZF.
parties don’t own votes, especially as a right.
Votes need to be earned. If Labour voters are going to the greens, it’s because Greens are doing more to earn them than Labour.
so having better policies and more engaging politicians than Labour is “calculated scavenging”?
AFAIK the greens haven’t been even badmouthing Labour. If you have any examples to the contrary, feel free to back it up. Shit, the most active bad-mouthers of Labour here (other than tories) include Labour party members.
The greens aren’t my cup of tea, and have too many hippies for my taste. But blaming them for Labour’s woes is pretty lame.
Clem, I’m just not that cynical, and I don’t believe The Greens are that small minded and manipulative. It just isn’t their style.
The act of making a Police complaint just can’t be seen as vote grabber.The ordinary voter just wouldn’t care if The Greens are the first to do it. It’s only Day One remember, so much more to unfold yet. (That’s coming from someone who will be a two ticks Labour voter come 20th September).
You may not be cynical but I think, like many Green and Labour voters, you are a nice person, but quite naive and trusting of their well calculated methods and innocent looking tactics designed to cut into Labour.
I too will stick to Labour and I hope that not many more traditional Labour voters get fooled by these plonkers.
Just as one needs to be weary of wolves in sheep clothing, be weary of scorpions dressed as lovely green grasshoppers.
If you consider the cunning shameless opportunistic party vote grabbing tactics of the Green pathetic political parasites as acting with ‘dignity and clarity’ you are either sadly mistaken, badly fooled, one of the green party smarty schemers or just a lovely feel good nice simpleton.
+1 karol. It’s also quite possible for the parties of the Left to show some sense of solidarity to one another, even if that was not their initial motivation for making the complaint.
It’s bigger than just the Labour Party, in isolation, being the victim.
I don’t know I can’t really see what the fuss is about….. it’s not as if this is really news to anyone is it ?
I remember reading an article on Ede in stuff some time ago that said his job was basically to feed PR to bloggers and thought at the time that it was sad that that is where a lot of politics in the media sits these days compared to when I was younger and there was a bit more open debate of the issues and it just didn’t seem so overtly manufactured.
I also remember saying a while back on this blog that it was shaping as the silliest election in my memory and that certainly looks like it’s coming to pass.
It’s news to me that Ede broke the law by going into a private database. It’s also news that someone leaked SIS information to Ede. Don’t know that is, but I think we should be told.
… bah I’m getting dragged into the detritus as well…my point was is that I really wish politics was a debate of ideas but I suppose those days are long gone. Karol’s still fighting the good fight on this site releasing the Green policies but there seems to be little else in the MSM apart from scuttlebutt.
Possibly. So what? Hager has the (limited) protection of the law as journo. And he didn’t actually do it himself, as you note. The relevant fact is that a trusted advisor to the PM appears to have broken the law. That’s a bit more interesting than some unknown hacker doing it as well.
interesting – I wonder if his source in that comment was the supplier of the emails, or someone who could simply verify some of them as true (I’d be surprised if Hager wrote a book with only a memory stick of emails to go by – he would have checked much of it with someone).
Well let’s not whitewash breastfeeding advocated completely – they can be quite nasty some of them
[lprent: How does this relate to this post. Your comment is hooked to the post, not responding to comment. If you wanted to raise a topic yourself, then do so in OpenMike.
Sounds like diversion trolling. Banned 6 weeks for stupidity. ]
[lprent: The funny thing about that is I don’t see many actual instances. What I see is a lot of people claiming that there are such stories. Few links to anything verifiable or documented. I’m afraid that I have come to view it as just another stupid urban myth.
In any case raise it in OpenMike. I can’t see anything in the post that particularly leads to that as a topic, and you aren’t responding the person who managed to make it relate to the post. ]
Every midwife visit, every Plunket visit, and every doctor visit you must explain why you are bottle feeding, explain why you use a shield, explain why you are using formula, explain why you are in this situation.
Every single time you will feel like a failure as they look at you and ask the exact same questions you have now been asked a hundred times over. “Have you seen a lactation consultant?” “Can I have a look?” “Are you pumping to feed her expressed milk?””Have you tried x, y, z?”
You can read the comments for many other similar stories from others.
I asked about formula but was told that I should continue breastfeeding because that was the best thing and he’d eat when he was hungry. I was exhausted, I was sick and suddenly my son no longer wanted anything to do with my breasts – what was I doing wrong?!
I was constantly in tears, felt totally stressed and was completely depressed. Everybody forgot that I was actually really sick and the focus was on breastfeeding. How was I meant to recover?”
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I was eventually released and went home with my son and husband, but the experience in hospital had left me so stressed and drained that I ended up in tears and shaking every time I tried to breastfeed and so I chose to continue with formula feeding.
Do we know anyone thats good with computers, hates John Key (and Cameron Slater), has bucketloads of money, past criminal convictions and maybe might know a hacker or two that could steal Slaters emails?
Lots of people hate him. he fucked off the West Coast after refusing to apologise when he got something wrong. Then he dragged out his “I’m a big tough blogger don’t fuck with me blah blah” routine, and got got.
Again with the Assumptions PR – you’d be in a spitting fit of rage, if we suggested or even hinted at assuming anything bad about your faction on our side of the fence.
You are looking more and more like a troll with out a clue.
I mean its not like this isn’t motivated by politics or money
Ah, the old RWNJ fallback position and diversion – it’s only about money.
Why did Pansy Wong resign? – money.
Why did Bill English put his house in a trust and then have us pay for it? – money
Why did John Key help screw over the entire global economy? – money
Why did that National MP promoted his own company in India do it? – money
Why did Collins apparently engage with Chinese authorities as a minister on her husbands business? – money
Guess what dweeb – The entire National Party only does things for money.
He is just a revolting guy, but remember there are women in NZ myself included who could not breastfeed and we do find the push to breastfeeding overwhelming and many young mums say they are made to feel guilty…in saying this Slater will denigrate any group viciously he does not agree with.
Mobies investigation of farm employment practices ,for the second time now it shows farmers widespread wage theft by not keeping employment records their needs to be tougher stance by movie to stop this behaviour!
The wet bus ticket approach isn’t working Stephen Joyce and Simon Bridges need a wake up call!
So all you losers think that Hagar is right? Surpirsed any of you can read!!
He or his cronies hacked Whale Oil (admitted by hagar). No one hacked the Labour site because they didn’t need to. Some plonker left a ‘gate” open.
Fortunately for NZ I know at least two people who were undecided who are now going to vote National because of the stink this book has caused and is seen as aleft push.
You dipsticks deserve everything you get including “I’m sorry” Cunliffe, “pooftah’ Robertson, the greens, the big fat german fraud “it” Harre & the bigoted northland maori!! .
“Fortunately for NZ I know at least two people who were undecided who are now going to vote National because of the stink this book has caused and is seen as aleft push.”
Theres no need for comments about Robertsons sexuality I reckon (or in fact anyones sexuality for that matter), thats just stooping down to Mallard and Gosgroves level
Far better to focus on Robertsons being useless and disloyal instead
PR You say:
‘Theres no need for comments about Robertsons sexuality I reckon (or in fact anyones sexuality for that matter), thats just stooping down to Mallard and Gosgroves level’ (sic)
That is such a good attempt at amateur spin. (2 out of 10 for at least trying- bout sorry zero for achievement)
This comment is intended for Graeme. It is not meant to enrage you further but I feel it must be said. Feelings of persistent rage are very, very bad for you and the outcomes are always a tad embarrassing or distressing for others.
When the urge to do the written equivalent of splenetic ranting comes on you, stop, take several deep breaths and walk briskly around the room for 10 minutes or so to allow your neuro-endocrine system to recalibrate. When the adrenaline rush has subsided and you’ve restored balance in your cortisol levels, your prefrontal cortex has a better chance of functioning – it literally cannot function normally when your body is flooded with stress hormones.
That is why your comments are so illogical and stupid – you were in the grip of an adrenaline rush. If you can control it, you stand a very good chance of being able to engage the more evolved regions of your brain and thus be able to put forward a more cogent argument.
I do hope you will take this comment in the spirit in which it is intended.
I bought mine at Whitcoulls this morning in Blenheim. 2nd to last copy. (The senior staff assistant seemed lemon mouthed and reluctant to sell it to me???)
I guess from what I have read so far, Key and Co have no choice but to belittle and deny.
Ever occur to you that maybe the majority of NZ don’t think this is the big deal the left think it is and that Hager hasn’t provided any proof of anything?
Golly gee I made a prediction and it was wrong, I also predicted that John Key would win the previous two elections, Shearer would defeat Cunliffe for leadership of Labour and that Cunliffe would then beat everyone else for leadership of Labour so by my count thats four I got right vs one I got wrong
So I’m not doing too badly especially when I’m guessing of the lefties on here thought John Key was going lose the last two elections 🙂
I predict John Key will still be the leader after this next election
” I also predicted that John Key would win the previous two elections, Shearer would defeat Cunliffe for leadership of Labour and that Cunliffe would then beat everyone else for leadership of Labour so by my count thats four I got right vs one I got wrong”
Care to link to those predictions? Cos I haven’t been able to find anything from “Puckish Rogue” older than about 10 months.
Which of your pseudonyms should I be searching under?
I confess to conspiring to use Hager’s findings to ridicule, call into contempt, prosecute, maim and thwart the National Party’s vicious agenda, in the hope that the guilty may do some time like Banksy only with bars.
Colour me an authoritarian if I respect the law ‘n’ all. I just can’t help myself.
Not worried about the majority, PR. In fact, a few thousand people changing their vote is all we need. I’m interested to know what percentage you reckon will take the ‘no smoke without fire’ line and abandon Team Key. 1%? 2? 5?
Scrape through! Lordy, is that what its come to? Last week National were going to govern all by themselves. They even told Colon Craig to do one because they were so confident of their awesomeness. Apparently, a week is a long time in dirty politics.
You think you’re winning after this? Governments lose elections. The media aren’t going to like having the National Party’s sleaze-finder sicced onto them.
“Ever occur to you that maybe the majority of NZ don’t think this is the big deal the left think it is and that Hager hasn’t provided any proof of anything?”
Just an observation – The right are now openly playing dirty with us folks on the standard. Name calling, repeating the message(party line) over and over, diversions and distraction.
Best part of Mr Hager’s book, the trolls now look to the casual observer – like the bunch hate mungers they are.
The politics of envy, that’s what I would have said about your envy of Hager’s bank balance before I got my mind right, PR (love your initials, PR – I’m looking for a job there now I’m better) but now I realise you’re treading on thin ice Buster, no-one wants to know what you think of some screaming Lefty, unless you’re the Prime Minister. Are you the Prime Minister? Didn’t think so, so shut up and let the real people eat their lasagne.
But but but isn’t
a) a record of names, addresses, phone numbers and bank details of ordinary citizens exactly the same thing as
b) a record of communications between the government and its agents detailing blackmail, media manipulation, and misuse of security intelligence?
Of course not. Reality is what we say it is from moment to moment. Things that are equivalent one moment are worlds apart the next. You will only achieve true harmony when you can accept the words of authority without even noticing inherent contradictions.
No. We’ve been through this. Documented evidence is what we say it is; screaming Left-wing conspiracy theorists can’t have evidence because they aren’t us.
Again, assumptions. His behaviour is perfectly acceptable in Journalist terms, when the other side will block this material from being published. Hence “the public good” argument you have been hearing all day.
So by your logic PR, the paperwork which has convicted many members of the Khmer rouge, should be thrown out, because they we stolen from them.
That books publish by Emma Goldman and Alexander Berkman, attacking the Soviet Union in the late 1920’s should have been banned – because they used papers stolen from Soviet official’s?
Kim.com’s internal emails can be used against him whether they were illegally removed from a court-sealed evidence room or not
No such evidence is admissible in this case, because Cameron is one of us.
You need to get your mind right Adam. The evidence is what Dear Leader says it is. I doubted but since I got my mind right it’s all become clear. Akshully, we shouldn’t be talking about this.
SHA’s the answer to housing issues.? NOT http://easterncourier.realviewdigital.com/#folio=1
SHA’s are failing. Nationals answer to the housing crisis within Auckland is fast losing support with those who are providing land and housing to the market. Why because they did not listen to concerns as to its unworkable nature. Just read John Mapleston’s comments. Unfortunately the link is hard coded so I am unable to copy the section, this is almost 1,400 sections from the touted SHA’s. And our major displays …. nothing , and he was the best person on election night for the position 🙁
Noew all we need to do is for Labour to review it’s Kiwibuild policy that is also IMO unworkable, as there is no available land to build the 5,000 p.a. properties which will require upto 200 h.a. p.a. within Auckland. And if there was then to build these at an affordable price unless we sidestep NZ manufactures and start to import CHEAP building materials & exclude them from council levies
Ive been thinking the very end of the “Planet Key” song was very very perceptive wasn’t it? Those two “good old boys” dressed in their All-Black outfits all chummy like, and Slater gets too near to Key and voila, KEY FALLS!! Those songwriters must be psychic! LOL
Key said somewhere that he has only been in contact with whaleoil four times in the last year. I thought he had said that he was in weekly contact with him??
And Ede again at 8.40 and shortly afterwards. Key’s tone at 8.49 is astonishing! Have a look at the suit behind him and to the left. His lips tighten every time Ede is mentioned.
btw nice to hear Key reads the Standard. Hi, John! You’re going
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3News had the full corridor interview up for a while, but have replaced it with the shortened piece. I’ll have a hunt on their website and see if it’s tucked away somewhere. It was twenty minutes of Key looking like a possum in the headlights, complete with a series of high pitched squeaks, mumbled words of (sort of) support for Jason Edes and repeated shrill accusations that Hager is lying. Possibly the worst presser Key has ever done.
Here’s a full summation of what he said in 12 sentences.
Nicky Hager is part of the Left conspiracy theorists. The Left play dirty tricks and lie and smear because they have no policy so that’s the only way they can attack the government. The Left got Hager to write the book because they’ve got nothing better to do but lie and smear. They can’t talk about the things that matter because they’ve got no policy. It’s a smear campaign by the Left. Nicky Hager is a conspiracy theorist. He’s working for the Left. The Left are bereft of policy. I stand by Jason Ede and Judith Collins. No. I haven’t spoken to them. No I haven’t read the book but I know whats in it. Look its a conspiracy theory from the Left etcetera…
John Key is disgusting. I can’t believe that he is able to retain the office of Prime Minister after this:
Under persistent questioning, Mr Key said he would not read the book until after the election, it was unlikely he would ask Justice Minister Judith Collins whether she had shifted a prisoner on Mr Slater’s behalf and whether Ms Collins had leaked information to Mr Slater.
This is just like when he refused to read the police report on Banks, only worse. Clearly there is nothing he thinks can’t be solved by simply refusing to look at any evidence of wrongdoing by his Ministers.
This is the ‘higher standard’ he promised for Ministers in his Government back in 2008. What a prick. The contempt he has for all New Zealanders is obvious.
Wow.
If you want to see how biased lamestream media has become watch these two videos.
Rawden Christie’s bias is so overt it is tangible
How on earth does someone like him to be a state broadcaster?
Yes his handling of Hager at 7 pm today was a disgrace to someone working for a public broadcaster.
Labour needs to muscle up with TVNZ and remove him.
btw Joyce looked pretty haggard. Must have burning the midnight oil. http://tvnz.co.nz/seven-sharp/august-14-6057340
Good to see some balance restored to the debate by Hosking on Seven Sharp. Middle New Zealand (ie where elections are won) incline to his world view more than Hager’s. That’s why he gets the big bucks!
No he gets the big bucks, because the people with the big bucks want him to sell the elite’s spin to ordinary NZers.
And Hoskins is sufficiently ego centric to sell any principles he may once have had to become their puppet.
No he gets the big bucks, because the people with the big bucks want him to sell the elite’s spin to ordinary NZers.
And Hoskins is sufficiently ego centric to sell any principles he may once have had to become their puppet.
Lest we forget Colon.
Sorry to repeat myself but I still chuckle at the tweet”
‘ ‘ Colin Craig reportedly furiously phoning lawyers after being excluded from Hagar’s book’
The actual text in the book says that it’s unlikely that Key used that language, but the point was that when the country was aghast at what Slater had said, Key was phoning Slater to offer him support.
I think we need to be careful here. The point has been made, why would anyone believe anything Slater has said. So where quotes in the book are from Slater’s emails or FB posts etc, then those always need to be put in context, not taken at face value.
ha ha. I heard him live once and he sounded like he does on the tele, all sneery and smart arse.
But even if he (in his typical sneery smart arse way) used words like “Don’t worry Cam, that woman is the one who yells at me whenever I go to Pike River meetings”….
For those who don’t know who Jo Hall is – she is the mother of the young West Coast man whose death Slater danced for joy over.
But I don’t quite get it joe90 – is that Slater quoting John Key? So John Key said those words … “”same feral fucking bitch that screams at him when he goes to pike river meetings””
Whaleoil shared a link.
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I think they’re shitting. Dunno what it is. Maybe the TheGodKey’s “Mr Slater” 15 times in one minute ? Maybe Stevo Joyce engaging a never seen persona on RNZ this morning ? Like really really anxious. Maybe ‘Tiger’ ‘Spinner gettin’ into ‘im like we’ve never heard ?
Even TV3’s saying “The Prime Minister is distancing himself……..” Which sorta confirms a closeness to start with. Oh Fucking No !!! Is this Wall Street ’29 ? It be very good were,,,,,!
Calling FizzyAnus……SSLands……GooseStepMan. Whadaya reckon boys ?
Meanwhile SlaterPorn’s doin’ the hsopitals of Tel Aviv. Lookin’ to commune with a needy victim of a 7 year old Gazan terrorist. Fuk he’s a good lad that boy !
I went to Internet-Mana meeting tonight in Blenheim. Small crowd. Kim Dotcom unable to come but a recording of one of his speeches was played. Pretty electric presentation. Wide range of folk there. Cross ages and cross race. Laila very clued up/good speaker and quick with responses at her finger tips. Glad I went but poor local advertising gave poor attendance.
Labour are expected in town sometime but no date given.
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He Pou a Rangi Climate Change Commission has today released advice that says if the Government doesn’t act now New Zealand is at risk of not meeting its climate goals. ...
The Coalition Government has today confirmed it is abandoning first home buyers who are struggling to get ahead, says Labour Finance spokesperson Barbara Edmonds. ...
Transport Minister Simeon Brown has welcomed the passing of legislation to move light electric vehicles (EVs) and plug-in hybrid electric vehicles (PHEVs) into the road user charges system from 1 April. “It was always intended that EVs and PHEVs would be exempt from road user charges until they reached two ...
New Zealand is strengthening its ability to combat illegal fishing outside its domestic waters and beef up regulation for its own commercial fishers in international waters through a Bill which had its first reading in Parliament today. The Fisheries (International Fishing and Other Matters) Amendment Bill 2023 sets out stronger ...
Economists Carl Hansen and Professor Prasanna Gai have been appointed to the Reserve Bank Monetary Policy Committee, Finance Minister Nicola Willis announced today. The Monetary Policy Committee (MPC) is the independent decision-making body that sets the Official Cash Rate which determines interest rates. Carl Hansen, the executive director of Capital ...
Apartment owners and buyers will soon have greater protections as further changes to the law on unit titles come into effect, Housing Minister Chris Bishop says. “The Unit Titles (Strengthening Body Corporate Governance and Other Matters) Amendment Act had already introduced some changes in December 2022 and May 2023, and ...
Foreign Minister Winston Peters will travel to Egypt and Europe from this weekend. “This travel will focus on a range of New Zealand’s traditional diplomatic and security partnerships while enabling broad engagement on the urgent situation in Gaza,” Mr Peters says. Mr Peters will attend the NATO Foreign ...
Transport Minister Simeon Brown is encouraging all road users to stay safe, plan their journeys ahead of time, and be patient with other drivers while travelling around this Easter long weekend. “Road safety is a responsibility we all share, and with increased traffic on our roads expected this Easter we ...
About 1.4 million New Zealanders will receive cost of living relief through increased government assistance from April 1 909,000 pensioners get a boost to Superannuation, including 5000 veterans 371,000 working-age beneficiaries will get higher payments 45,000 students will see an increase in their allowance Over a quarter of New Zealanders ...
Ensuring social housing is being provided to those with the greatest needs is front of mind as the Government restarts social housing tenancy reviews, Associate Housing Minister Tama Potaka says. “Our relentless focus on building a strong economy is to ensure we can deliver better public services such as social ...
The Kermadec Ocean Sanctuary will not go ahead, with Cabinet deciding to stop work on the proposed reserve and remove the Bill that would have established it from Parliament’s order paper. “The Kermadec Ocean Sanctuary Bill would have created a 620,000 sq km economic no-go zone,” Oceans and Fisheries Minister ...
Dam safety regulations are being amended so that smaller dams won’t be subject to excessive compliance costs, Minister for Building and Construction Chris Penk says. “The coalition Government is focused on reducing costs and removing unnecessary red tape so we can get the economy back on track. “Dam safety regulations ...
The coalition Government is expanding the medium-scale adverse event classification to parts of the North Island as dry weather conditions persist, Agriculture Minister Todd McClay announced today. “I have made the decision to expand the medium-scale adverse event classification already in place for parts of the South Island to also cover the ...
The passing of legislation giving effect to coalition Government tax commitments has been welcomed by Finance Minister Nicola Willis. “The Taxation (Annual Rates for 2023–24, Multinational Tax, and Remedial Matters) Bill will help place New Zealand on a more secure economic footing, improve outcomes for New Zealanders, and make our tax system ...
Science, Innovation and Technology Minister Judith Collins and Tertiary Education and Skills Minister Penny Simmonds today announced plans to transform our science and university sectors to boost the economy. Two advisory groups, chaired by Professor Sir Peter Gluckman, will advise the Government on how these sectors can play a greater ...
The Budget will deliver urgently-needed tax relief to hard-working New Zealanders while putting the government’s finances back on a sustainable track, Finance Minister Nicola Willis says. The Finance Minister made the comments at the release of the Budget Policy Statement setting out the Government’s Budget objectives. “The coalition Government intends ...
The coalition Government will look at options to address a zoning issue that limits how much financial support Queenstown residents can get for accommodation. Cabinet has agreed on a response to the Petitions Committee, which had recommended the geographic information MSD uses to determine how much accommodation supplement can be ...
Cabinet has agreed to a short extension to the final reporting timeframe for the Royal Commission into Abuse in Care from 28 March 2024 to 26 June 2024, Internal Affairs Minister Brooke van Velden says. “The Royal Commission wrote to me on 16 February 2024, requesting that I consider an ...
The coalition Government is delivering an $18 million boost to New Zealanders needing to travel for specialist health treatment, Health Minister Dr Shane Reti says. “These changes are long overdue – the National Travel Assistance (NTA) scheme saw its last increase to mileage and accommodation rates way back in 2009. ...
The Government is recognising the innovative and rising talent in New Zealand’s growing space sector, with the Prime Minister and Space Minister Judith Collins announcing the new Prime Minister’s Prizes for Space today. “New Zealand has a growing reputation as a high-value partner for space missions and research. I am ...
Foreign Minister Winston Peters has confirmed New Zealand’s concerns about cyber activity have been conveyed directly to the Chinese Government. “The Prime Minister and Minister Collins have expressed concerns today about malicious cyber activity, attributed to groups sponsored by the Chinese Government, targeting democratic institutions in both New ...
Independent Reviewers appointed for School Property Inquiry Education Minister Erica Stanford today announced the appointment of three independent reviewers to lead the Ministerial Inquiry into the Ministry of Education’s School Property Function. The Inquiry will be led by former Minister of Foreign Affairs Murray McCully. “There is a clear need ...
State Highway 1 across the Brynderwyns will be open for Easter weekend, with work currently underway to ensure the resilience of this critical route being paused for Easter Weekend to allow holiday makers to travel north, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says. “Today I visited the Brynderwyn Hills construction site, where ...
Introduction Good morning to you all, and thanks for having me bright and early today. I am absolutely delighted to be the Minister for Infrastructure alongside the Minister of Housing and Resource Management Reform. I know the Prime Minister sees the three roles as closely connected and he wants me ...
New Zealand stands with the United Kingdom in its condemnation of People’s Republic of China (PRC) state-backed malicious cyber activity impacting its Electoral Commission and targeting Members of the UK Parliament. “The use of cyber-enabled espionage operations to interfere with democratic institutions and processes anywhere is unacceptable,” Minister Responsible for ...
Foreign Minister Winston Peters and Defence Minister Judith Collins today announced New Zealand will provide logistics support for the upcoming Solomon Islands election. “We’re sending a team of New Zealand Defence Force personnel and two NH90 helicopters to provide logistics support for the election on 17 April, at the request ...
The European Union Free Trade Agreement Legislation Amendment Bill received Royal Assent today, completing the process for New Zealand’s ratification of its free trade agreement with the European Union. “I am pleased to announce that today, in a small ceremony at the Beehive, New Zealand notified the European Union ...
Public consultation on the terms of reference for the Royal Commission into COVID-19 Lessons has concluded, Internal Affairs Minister Hon Brooke van Velden says. “I have been advised that there were over 11,000 submissions made through the Royal Commission’s online consultation portal.” Expanding the scope of the Royal Commission of ...
Hardworking families are set to benefit from a new credit to help them meet their early childcare education (ECE) costs, Finance Minister Nicola Willis says. From 1 July, parents and caregivers of young children will be supported to manage the rising cost of living with a partial reimbursement of their ...
A specialised Independent Technical Advisory Group (ITAG) tasked with preparing and publishing independent non-binding advice on the design of a "green" (sustainable finance) taxonomy rulebook is being established, Climate Change Minister Simon Watts says. “Comprising experts and market participants, the ITAG's primary goal is to deliver comprehensive recommendations to the ...
Defence Minister Judith Collins has thanked the Chief of Army, Major General John Boswell, DSD, for his service as he leaves the Army after 40 years. “I would like to thank Major General Boswell for his contribution to the Army and the wider New Zealand Defence Force, undertaking many different ...
25 March 2024 Minister to meet Australian counterparts and Manufacturing Industry Leaders Small Business, Manufacturing, Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister Andrew Bayly will travel to Australia for a series of bi-lateral meetings and manufacturing visits. During the visit, Minister Bayly will meet with his Australian counterparts, Senator Tim Ayres, Ed ...
Government commits almost $3 million for period products in schools The Coalition Government has committed $2.9 million to ensure intermediate and secondary schools continue providing period products to those who need them, Minister of Education Erica Stanford announced today. “This is an issue of dignity and ensuring young women don’t ...
Good morning, it’s great to be here. First, I would like to acknowledge the New Zealand Institute of Building Surveyors and thank you for the opportunity to be here this morning. I would like to use this opportunity to outline the Government’s ambitious plan and what we hope to ...
Minister for Pacific Peoples Dr Shane Reti has announced the Government’s commitment to the Auckland Secondary Schools Māori and Pacific Islands Cultural Festival, more commonly known as Polyfest. “The Ministry for Pacific Peoples is a longtime supporter of Polyfest and, as it celebrates 49 years in 2024, I’m proud to ...
Before moving onto the substance of today’s address, I want to recognise the very significant and ongoing contribution the Breast Cancer Foundation makes to support the lives of New Zealand women and their families living with breast cancer. I very much enjoy working with you. I also want to recognise ...
New Zealand has notched up a first with the launch of University of Canterbury research to the International Space Station, Science, Innovation and Technology and Space Minister Judith Collins says. The hardware, developed by Dr Sarah Kessans, is designed to operate autonomously in orbit, allowing scientists on Earth to study ...
Introduction Thank you for inviting me to speak with you today and I’m sorry I can’t be there in person. Yesterday I started in Wellington for Breakfast TV, spoke to a property conference in Auckland, and finished the day speaking to local government in Christchurch, so it would have been ...
The Coalition Government is contributing more than $1 million to support the establishment of an emergency multi-agency coordination centre in Northland. Emergency Management and Recovery Minister Mark Mitchell announced the contribution today during a visit of the Whangārei site where the facility will be constructed. “Northland has faced a number ...
New Zealanders have enjoyed a broader range of voices telling the story of Aotearoa thanks to the creation of Whakaata Māori 20 years ago, says Māori Development Minister Tama Potaka. The minister spoke at a celebration marking the national indigenous media organisation’s 20th anniversary at their studio in Auckland on ...
Commercial catch limits for some fisheries have been increased following a review showing stocks are healthy and abundant, Ocean and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones says. The changes, along with some other catch limit changes and management settings, begin coming into effect from 1 April 2024. "Regular biannual reviews of fish ...
By Anneke Smith, RNZ News political reporter A petition urging the New Zealand government to provide urgent humanitarian assistance to the Palestinian people has been tabled in the House. More than 200 people gathered on Parliament’s forecourt today and they were met by MPs from Labour, the Greens and Te ...
Pacific Media Watch The Paris-based global media freedom watchdog RSF (Reporters Without Borders) has appealed for information about the “disappearance” of Palestinian journalist Bayan Abusultan. She was reportedly last seen on March 19 among people “sequestered” in this week’s raid and siege of Al Shifa hospital by Israeli troops in ...
EDITORIAL:The Jakarta Post It happens again and again; indigenous Papuans fall victim to Indonesian soldiers. This time, we have photographic evidence for the brutality, with videos on social media showing a Papuan man being tortured by a group of plainclothes men alleged to be the Indonesian Military (TNI) members. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Robyn J. Whitaker, Director of the Wesley Centre for Theology, Ethics, and Public Policy & Associate Professor, New Testament, Pilgrim Theological College, University of Divinity A strange and eclectic range of activities takes place across these few weeks of the year. Some ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Panizza Allmark, Professor Visual & Cultural Studies, Edith Cowan University It’s Easter weekend, which means many of us will be kicking back with the greatest hits on repeat. But whether you’re a boomer, or an ‘80s or ’90s kid, you might be ...
RNZ Pacific Fiji’s Acting Public Prosecutor has filed an appeal against the sentences of former prime minister Voreqe Bainimarama and suspended police chief Sitiveni Qiliho in their corruption case. Bainimarama was granted an absolute discharge for attempting to pervert the course of justice while Qiliho received a conditional discharge with ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Arosha Weerakoon, Senior Lecturer and General Dentist, School of Dentistry, The University of Queensland Casezy idea/Shutterstock How does toothpaste work? What did people use before toothpaste was invented? – Amelia, age 7, Meanjin (Brisbane) Thanks for your ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Brett Hallam, Associate professor, UNSW Sydney IM Imagery/Shutterstock Solar SunShot is well named. The Australian government announced today it would plough A$1 billion into bringing back solar manufacturing to Australia, boosting energy security, swapping coal and gas jobs for those ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Clare Dix, Research Fellow in Nutrition & Dietetics, The University of Queensland Easter is the time for chocolate. The shops are full of fantastically packaged and shiny chocolates in all shapes and sizes, making trips to the supermarket with children more challenging ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Emma Felton, Adjunct Senior Researcher, University of South Australia Even in a stubborn cost-of-living crisis, it seems there’s one luxury most Australians won’t sacrifice – their daily cup of coffee. Coffee sales have largely remained stable, even as financial pressures have ...
Mining company Trans-Tasman Resources has unexpectedly withdrawn its application for a consent to suck the valuable metals vanadium and titanium from the Taranaki seafloor, as it apparently wagers on the Government’s new fast-track process. It had spent two-and-a-half days putting its case to the Environmental Protection Agency’s decision-making committee, at ...
Contrary to the Associate Minister of Education’s claims, analysis of Healthy School Lunches Programme - Ka Ora, Ka Ako assessments has revealed it provides excellent value for the taxpayer dollar, as a groundswell of public opposition to Government ...
Greenpeace says wannabe Taranaki seabed miner Trans-Tasman Resources is likely banking on Christopher Luxon’s fast-track process to side-step proper scrutiny of its Taranaki seabed mining proposal by bailing out of the Environmental Protection Agency hearing ...
Kiwis Against Seabed mining today slammed Australian owned would-be seabed miner Trans Tasman Resources (TTR) for abandoning its application to the Environmental Protection Authority (EPA) to mine the seabed of the South Taranaki Bight. The company ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Katie Attwell, Associate Professor, School of Social Sciences, The University of Western Australia Ground Picture/Shutterstock Months after COVID vaccines were introduced in 2021, governments and private organisations mandated them for various groups. Health and aged care workers were among the ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Andrew Dzurak, Scientia Professor Andrew Dzurak, CEO and Founder of Diraq, UNSW Sydney Diraq For decades, the pursuit of quantum computing has struggled with the need for extremely low temperatures, mere fractions of a degree above absolute zero (0 Kelvin or ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Adrian Beaumont, Election Analyst (Psephologist) at The Conversation; and Honorary Associate, School of Mathematics and Statistics, The University of Melbourne A national Essential poll, conducted March 20–24 from a sample of 1,150, gave the Coalition a 50–44 lead including undecided, a reversal ...
The Taxpayers’ Union has today made a formal request under the Regulations of the People’s Republic of China on Open Government Information () for information held about how New Zealand Members of Parliament are spending taxpayer ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Robert Nelson, Honorary Principal Fellow, The University of Melbourne A Byzantine depiction of the Eucharist in Saint Sophia Cathedral, Kyiv.Jacek555/Wikimedia Commons, CC BY-SA A nasty quarrel arose in the 11th century over what kind of bread should be used in holy ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Patrick Hesp, Professor, Flinders University Patrick Hesp In some parts of Australia, coastal dunes are retreating from the ocean at an alarming rate, as waves carve up the beach and wind blows the sand inland. But coastal communities are largely ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Luke Heemsbergen, Senior Lecturer, Digital, Political, Media, Deakin University With an impressive 60% of the US smartphone market, Apple is undeniably big, but not a clear monopoly. Yet, years of innovation by Apple have effectively given the company its own exclusive ...
Whether you’re facing layoffs or are just an emotional junior staffer, it’s always a good idea to scout out a good crying place before you need it. It’s an incredibly hard time for Wellington. Across the city, thousands of public servants are hearing tough news about redundancies and layoffs. Government ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By James Miller-Jones, Professor, Curtin University Nuclear explosions on a neutron star feed its jets. Danielle Futselaar and Nathalie Degenaar, Anton Pannekoek Institute, University of Amsterdam, CC BY-SA How fast can a neutron star drive powerful jets into space? The answer, it ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Daryl Adair, Associate Professor of Sport Management, University of Technology Sydney Earlier this week, independent MP Andrew Wilkie accused the AFL of conducting “off the books” illicit drug testing to identify players using substances of abuse, then inappropriately withdrawing them from matches ...
The Government’s announcement that it will scrap plans for a vast marine sanctuary around the Kermadec Islands is ‘shameful’ and will make it impossible for Aotearoa New Zealand to meet its international commitments, says the World Wide Fund for Nature ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By John Quiggin, Professor, School of Economics, The University of Queensland Shutterstock The federal government has bowed to pressure from the car industry, announcing it will relax proposed emissions rules for utes and vans and delay enforcement of the new standards ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Suzanne Rutland, Professor Emerita, University of Sydney In his latest book, Jewish Life in Medieval Spain, Jonathan Ray focuses on the tumult of the 14th century in Spain – a time of the plague, civil strife and war between the two largest ...
While creating a slate of world-class shows, Whakaata Māori also developed a generation of world-class creatives. Television is an odd word. It mixes the Ancient Greek and Latin languages, and its most literal meaning is “far-off sight”. In the contemporary and living language of te reo Māori, “whakaata” as a ...
Yesterday the UN Security Council passed a resolution demanding an immediate ceasefire in Israel’s war on Gaza. This significant step and the deteriorating humanitarian situation in Gaza prompted an urgent debate in the New Zealand Parliament. Leader ...
The Government’s decision to reduce access to continuous glucose monitors (CGM) not only threatens the lives of children with type 1 diabetes and increases the potential for ‘Dead in Bed’ syndrome, but also threatens the health of their parents an ...
Apples are available year-round, but the wide variety on offer involves intensive scientific research – and large-scale commercialisation. What’s beautiful, red, sweet and crunchy? Tony Martin’s favourite kind of apple: Sassy. The CEO of apple and pear breeding organisation Prevar, Martin’s fondness for Sassy represents professional success as well as ...
Family violence specialist service Shine is calling on employers to stop asking for proof of domestic violence in order for employees to access domestic violence leave. The call comes five years after the introduction of the Domestic Violence ...
The Deputy Chairperson of the Finance and Expenditure Committee is calling for public submissions on the Budget Policy Statement 2024. The Budget Policy Statement 2024 (BPS) sets out the Government's priorities for the 2024 Budget. It explains the approach ...
Brutal government spending cuts that will see the size of the Ministry for Pacific Peoples slashed by 40% will hit Pasifika communities hard, the PSA says. The Ministry has told staff that it is seeking voluntary redundancies, and to redeploy and reassign ...
I live with five people I mostly love, but our different ideas about generosity are starting to really irk me.Want Hera’s help? Email your problem to helpme@thespinoff.co.nzDear Hera,This is a bit of a random one but here goes. I’m 22 and work an OK job (OK meaning I get paid ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Maria Nicholas, Senior Lecturer in Language and Literacy Education, Deakin University Earlier this month, the New South Wales government announced it would roll out programs for gifted students in every public school in the state. This comes amid concerns gifted school ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Christopher Rudge, Law lecturer, University of Sydney Massachusetts General Hospital In a world first, we heard last week that US surgeons had transplanted a kidney from a gene-edited pig into a living human. News reports said the procedure was a ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By David Tombs, Howard Paterson Chair of Theology and Public Issues, University of Otago The 5th-century Maskell panel showing Jesus in a loincloth.British Museum, CC BY-NC-SA When Jesus is shown on the cross, he is almost always depicted wearing a loincloth around ...
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COMMENTARY:Jewish Voice for Peace The UN Security Council passed a resolution demanding an immediate ceasefire in Gaza on Monday — and for the first time since the beginning of the Israeli military’s genocide of Palestinians, the United States abstained rather than vetoing it. Security Council resolutions are legally binding, ...
Asia Pacific Report A New Zealand investigative journalist and author says the US spy system hosted by the Government Communications Security Bureau (GCSB) appears to be a controversial intelligence system used in global capture-kill operations. Writing a commentary for RNZ News today, Nicky Hager, author of Secret Power, a 1996 ...
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On a Thursday in February, at Wellington’s Conservation House, the Conservation Authority, a statutory body advising the eponymous department and minister, Tama Potaka, opened its 195th meeting. Under consideration that afternoon was an agenda item written by Tim Bamford, chief advisor in the Department of Conservation’s biodiversity, heritage and visitors ...
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Kia orana. I have been spending the week in wonderful Rarotonga. So what is happening locally in politics? Anything unusual?
BAU from the right – deny, deny, deny.
You’re not going to believe this, Micky…
For Stuff.co.nz there’s nothing to see here…
People are meeting with their lawyers.
Ahhh, I guess they are. (Thinking kindly that journalists do not have another agenda)
Some adults have taken to wearing nappies within the last 24 hours
@rosie 😀
Guyon Espiner reckons you’re the left’s equivalent of Whaleoil. I’m suspicious; there are so many similarities. You both blog, you both go on holiday at the same time, and to the best of my knowledge you’ve never been seen in the same room at the same time. Is there something we should be told?
Na, Bomber is the left-wing equivalent of Slater
Bomber wishes hes the left-wing equivalent
PR
Your assertion does not appear to correspond to reality. Bomber points to the differences; between himself and Slater, which he has no wish to emulate, in a post this very morning:
http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2014/08/14/refuting-the-claim-that-all-hager-reveals-is-just-politics-as-usual/#sthash.YX8l0VZ8.dpuf
I’m sure he doesn’t..
Nobody on the left would want to be compared to that creep,
Sorry PR wrong again, bomber is a bit of a dick, not a complete ass-hole.
You were mentioned on National Radio as an example of an anonymous Labour Party blogger Micky, though everyone knows your name and that you are not a member of Mr Cunliffe’s staff.
So according to Joyce the Hager book is all old stuff and nothing to be ashamed of. Poor Mr Key was on a very long flight to somewhere and unable to talk to anyone.
Fark.
I just had a listen.
I can honestly say I do not get paid to blog, especially from the likes of British Tobacco or Fonterra. I do it in the hope that my contribution to the standard helps the progressive movement.
My actual identity is well known. I outed myself nearly 4 years ago.
The only similarity between me and Slater is that we are bipedal males.
Slater is quadropedal
Though he’s not so fat, Jabba the Hutt always comes to mind when slater’s photo appears.
edit: hmm. I appear to have been imprecise as to the subject of the sentence. Better change it otherwise tories will be all pc about fat-shaming and probably call me anti-Semitic to boot:
Brownlee is the Hutt.
Slater is Salacious Crumb.
Heard about you. Never met you.
Understand you are a Man of Integrity.
A guy with a kind heart and a good head.
Wishing you a good holiday.
Funny you should ask that Mickey! LOL
Guyon and suzie are having a real problem this a.m. more world news anyone?
Headline news at 7
Yes it’ll be very interesting to see how the MSM handle this story.
As they repeat many of the stories sourced from these dubious origins, they are compromised.
Did Jason Ede write Guyon Espiner’s questions?
Appalling for a public broadcaster.
Saw tvnz news at 10.30 where big head boyed had a go at discrediting hager and asking about the left and their dirty politics even cut him off which is very sloppy even by tvnz standards.
hager handled it ok you can see the counter measures and note to tvnz; a pre recorded interview should be edited if practical to remove the impatience and bias of the churnalist.
boyed needs acting lessons to hide his arrogance.
Hager had Farrar on the ropes on RNZ
Has shown him up for what he is..a key policy adviser for the Nats
So bad Stephen Joyce has picked up the phone and told RNZ he must speak.
The Nats are terrified.
Have the RNZ got some intestinal fortitude…
“The Nats are terrified.”
hence the emergency purchase of adult nappies
“The Nats are terrified.”
First Line willl have Hager on sometime before 7.30am – probably fairly soon.
John Armstrong says there are serious questions to answer, and, while Hager is left wing, he is not a “screaming left wing theorist”. He is a credible journalist.
I laughed like crazy at the Key accusation of “left wing conspiracy theorist”…so John, tell me the bits he has not got right so far? He has been right on the ball on everything to date.
Nicky Hagar wasn’t feeling particularly left wing when he wrote seeds of distrust……….And as it was pointed out by Liam Luff on the radio this morning, if it weren’t for Nicky Hagar, Key wouldn’t be in job now, after The Hollow Men exposed Brash and the Crosby Textor tactics, and everything turned to custard for Brash
Yes he would. Brash said in his autobiography that he stitched up a deal with Key that Key would replace him as PM after about a year of him winning the 2005 election.
Can’t say I’ve ever read Brash’s biography so wasn’t aware of that little gem.
Remember the expose on Brash contributed to his downfall. Had Hollow Men not been published and life had trundled on normally for the National Party, then in an alternate universe they won with Brash at the helm in 2008, imagine the damage that could have been done under him within a year would have even been worse that it had been in that first year under Key.
Even if Brash would have been replaced by Key within a year as you say, at least the Hollow Men fast tracked the demise of Brash, putting Key in the job well before he would have been other wise.
Key emerged from Brash’s ashes as the New Golden Leader, so funnily enough he does owe his fortunes, in part, to Hagar.
I, of course, haven’t read it either. It came out in the publicity for it.
And yes, Key’s rise to power as opposition leader was probably cleaner than a coup for the PM would have been, but the fact that they considered it is par for the course for the nats.
Personally, I have always suspected that Key was the one who leaked Brash’s emails to Hagar – only going on a gut feeling of course. I always say to myself “Who benefits by this” when looking for a likely culprit!!
Brash was a man out of his depth.
I was present on an occasion leading up to a debate where he had no opinion of his own, everything was party policy. In fact he often asked Richard Long, “what’s our line on this?”
I noticed that too Ennui, that Key’s statement contained not a jot of anything that suggested that Hager’s book is wrong. Just that Hager is a leftie.
Nothing on Stuff.co.nz front page and Herald headline halfway down is simply John Key’s denial.
This is exposing more than Key. This is exposing ms “print” media also. Looks like it may be largely left to Campbell to follow… I hope he has the stomach for it.
Hes on a plaaaane!
I feel dirty after the joyce espiner encounter
Did Joyce ring in again? They’re terrified all right.
Joyce’s embarrassing “tells” are on full display this morning.
And there’s that bizarre “devil-beast” reference again! Popcorn please…
Farrar also has a tell; his RNZ interview had him swallowing and gulping like, um, a beached whale.
http://www.radionz.co.nz/audio
From a body language site:
Persistent Swallowing.
A dry throat is often a physical symptom of telling a lie and therefore the person telling the lie will often find that they need to swallow a lot more in order to keep their throat lubricated. In addition this swallowing is also designed to bring about a break in the conversation in order to facilitate the liar thinking for a few seconds.
Isn’t it more a consequence of his lisp/speech impediment?
Eh? Wasn’t aware he has a problem in that area. It’s not obvious in his speech.
Edit: Just looked at a bio and you are right. That might explain it. But so can the bullshitting, panicking liar theory. They’re not mutually exclusive.
Yeah he has a slight one, you can see when he talks – his face moves in a very strange fashion.
Contrarian he doesn,t appear to have that problem on Jim Moras show probably overtired from working late to figure out attack lines!
http://www.listener.co.nz/current-affairs/technology/kiwiblog-david-farrars-nine-year-old-baby/
“When he was a kid, David Farrar suffered from a grinding speech defect. Language had arrived relatively late, and when the magic finally came it sometimes felt like the words were sticking to the back of his throat, crawling out of his mouth, marking him as some kind of fool. For a time, life seemed to have delivered him a raw deal. As he recalls, it took the better part of a decade of intensive speech therapy to get his language fully up and running. Even in 2012, Farrar admits, he sometimes needs to practise a new word as many as a dozen times before he feels confident enough”
No doubt he puts as much effort into his denials and spin lines .
But good on him for overcoming his disability TRPs link to body language site is poor science their is no scientific relation between body language and lying how ever their is a link between obfuscation and lying not answering a question directly is sure sign of lying!
Hager did say they Farrar was only a very bit part in this whole thing but I am reserving judgement until I have read the book (picking it up today).
Looking forward to giving it a read
that’s about the ONLY thing I admire him for – his commitment to something I understand was quite debilitating
Isn’t it possible his “impediment” is simply a symptom of his continuous bullshitting?
Yeah, probably in the same way that my disabilty and need for welfare is a symptom of being a leftie.
Don’t see how that would follow.
See above.
Damage Control! Damage Control! Evasive manoeuvres! Reroute power to the main deflector!
The media jocks all look a little queasy today.
Paul Henry had a ‘speed reader’ on Nicky Hager’s book–Charles Finny from lobbyists Saunders Unsworth no less! Our pompous man decided there was nothing to see here, not worth purchasing, “the beltway” people knew all this anyway, and advised people just to download “Dirty Politics” from the net “when someone puts it there” and he did not seem to mean a paid digital copy from Unity Books.
Well Charles the news for you is that thousands of people do not engage with political blogs or facebook or the internet that much at all like some of us do. They still read books and Hager will reach some of these people before September 20. They will be not be impressed with what they read.
This will be a vote changer for some, and there is still Dotcom’s Sept 15 meeting tick tick ticking.
I’m only half way through the book and it’s like wow! my jaw is still dropped.It’s joined lots of dots.
I imagine the lights burned all last night at Nact’s headquarters and a lot of other places. The internal Nact bloodletting must be a sight to behold given the internal party type attacks undertaken. I imagine it’s divided into 3 groups, the “yea we did it”, “why did you get caught” and “what the F did you do it for”.
Lots of lawyers fees coming down the track. All corporates should probably check they are not advertising on the blog and
‘sorry MickyS you have picked the wrong time to be on holiday”
This blog on UBI may interest some people.
Put this up again in a week’s time, Draco T. Right now, everyone’s too busy following the Hagar story.
😛
Hey Micky “Watergate 2” Nixon. “I have never lied” – “I will resign effective at noon today”
Should now be Key’s turn at these immortal words.
When you get back march around to the electoral Commission office with a copy of Dirty politics and request they review every page in the book and request a ruling (legal) that there is or mot any political advertising evidence in the book that the NatZ have used illegally hacked from Labour and SIS files and used on a public media whale oil blog site please?
Ask “Electoral Commission go check the book out for wrongful electionerring by NatZ here please?”
while there Micky ask them can we have the excellent song/video Planet Key back on MSM please?
Maybe we can add some rope with a neck loop around a branch on a tree inserted in that paddock and all opposition targeted MP;s standing around like Hang em high?
My email to Morning Report
The difference in the manner and tone of Guyon Espiner’s interview with Stephen Joyce and his interview of David Cunliffe was so striking as to be both embarrassing and distressing for those of us who hold treasured notions about RNZ’s political neutrality. For example, he did not challenge Joyce when he claimed Hager is a conspiracy theorist and allowed him to be evasive about Judith Collin’s relationship with Cameron Slater but harassed Cunliffe over his relationship with Greg Presland. His partisan attitude has been shamefully apparent previously but in the context of this current situation it was appalling.
Which was not read out.
Good on you for emailing them TeWhareWhero. Nicely put. I hope they didn’t just laugh maniacally and click delete.
I think perhaps the best thing about this book is that it will force journalists to prove they deserve that designation and are not just churnalists and PR puppets who do the bidding of the National Party and the economic elites.
Some are so stupid and/or so mired in their role as the latter nothing will change, but others will have to choose between knowing that Nicky Hager is an internationally respected investigative journalist who is scrupulous in his research – and the demands of their paymasters to join the chorus of those who are trying to discredit Hager’s work by labelling him as a ‘screaming left-wing conspiracy theorist’.
And let them be torn. It throws a spotlight on the schism that exists between journos and commentators with intelligence and integrity – and the rest.
Also nicely put 🙂
Did anyone get out of bed with an extra spring in their step this morning?
Heading out the door soon to get my copy of Dirty Politics. Wondering how this will play out over the next few weeks. Will the govt manage to effectively dilute any reaction using the reasoning on the bingo board weka posted last night on karols first post on the book? They will be “on message”, spinning for their lives.
Or will NZer’s who by and large do still have a sense of fair play, want to see justice done, the characters held to account?. Will they be put off giving their loyal vote to a party they once believed in? Not all National voters are RWNJ’s, they are just ignorant and have poor judgement, but such deceit they may not be able to stomach.
Nixon Key and all the rest will have to start answering questions soon.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=11308471
I sure did because this is the lefts last roll of the dice and its turned out be nothing but smears, half-truths and insinuations but no proof so its all good from here on in
God you’re funny pukish brogue (Watch out, that’s puke on your shoes! Oh no, or is bile from Wail Oil’s gut?)
So I take it you purchased a copy of the book from Unity in Willis St, Wellington yesterday and have read the book overnight? No? Didn’t think so.
Pretty confident for day one of the dissection of the content of the book, or is it that you are just parroting your vile masters? Did you all receive the memo about staying “on message” with your spin?
I’m parroting Nicky Hager himself when he was asked point blank by Marcus Lush if he had any proof on John Keys involvement and he had none to give
…………..Possibly because Key was intentionally kept at a certain distance to keep himself “clean and untainted”? Key’s hardly going to get his hands dirty is he?
“He relates the situation to United States politics, where “the leader is kept clean” while “there is a system of people, including the Prime Minister’s office to Cameron Slater and various other National Party activist friends, who are being used in continuous and organised attacks on their opponents”.
http://www.3news.co.nz/Nicky-Hagers-new-book-Dirty-Politics-will-shock-readers/tabid/817/articleID/356721/Default.aspx
I haven’t got time for this Puke. I’ve got to go. I’ve got my name down for a copy of the book at soon as it arrives it the local book store, either later today or tomorrow. I suggest you do the same too.
Jeeez PR you just don’t get it do you?
The top 5 trending terms on Twitter are:
#hager book
Dirty Politics
Watergate
Slater
Whale Oil
Wow Plunket is bending over backwards to downplay #dirtypolitics
LOL @ “joining the dots” he has fricken documents mapping their interactions….
Hooton just called Hager a master of public relations (RNZ). Jealous much Matthew? lolz.
And he’s filling out the Bingo card pretty quick.
btw, what is Hooton’s relationship with Slater? Katherine Ryan is just pointing out that Hooton is part of the cabal, and is in the book, and asking Hooton if there is anything he wants to discuss. WTF? Why is Hooton even on RNZ this morning as one of their political commentators. Complete conflict of interest.
Almost total fail from Ryan and her producers on what the point of Hager’s book is. She seems to think it’s just the normal rough and tumble of party politics, with a new twist of the blogging medium.
A pathetic offering from RNZ this morning, couldn’t find anyone more interesting talk to than Hooton and Williams.
Extreme turncoat Michael Bassett indulging in some revolting, smearing whataboutery on ZB. Playing the victim card. Calls Hager a “ferret faced fruitcake”.
I feel ill.
A ferret faced fruitcake?
That’s charming isn’t it – what a great man Michael Bassett is…… not. It is clearly all over for Bassett then.
If I wanted to stoop to gutter politics I could probably come up with an apt moniker for Michael Bassett but I am so enjoying the unobstructed view from the moral high ground I won’t. But, I do think it is my duty as a citizen to tell everyone I know that Bassett’s response is to Hager’s book was spiteful and ad hominem and suggest they share it with all the people they know.
Same as sharing Slater’s comments about eastern Christchurch ….
Yep, people don’t forget that sort of shitbile..
Just like they have most definitely not forgotten Slater on the West Coast. Have received comms from people there overnight relishing this – Slater has made very real enemies and I would not like to be in his shoes
Slater’s display of sociopathic tendencies (I mean that seriously, coming from the abnormal psychology perspective) within his words particularly on the young man from the West Coast killed in the car accident, and the people of CHCH in Feb 2011 have made my brain explode with incomprehension at such cruelty.
Why anyone would support such vile person by reading his blog is beyond me.
There’s a reason David Lange later regarded Bassett in the same manner he’d regard something stuck to the sole of his shoe.
Re RNZ, Joyce, et al. So us bloggers are meant to be routinely briefed or contacted by pollies on topics to write on.
Should I be offended that nobody has ever contacted me in such a way? Nor has anyone privately asked me to blog on any matter.
And certainly not routinely.
The most that I’ve ever had has been people suggesting that I have a look at something and maybe write about it. Oh and the odd Q&A that I’ve set up where we do a guest post from named politicians.
Nothing like the paid orders that Cameron Slater appears to have been taking from Key, Ede, Collins, Fonterra, Posts of Auckland, Tobacco trilobites, Graham and many others.
It looks like Cameron Slater never really says no to cash.
Yep. And nothing like releasing smears through WO (Len Brown for instance) that is then picked up by the MSM.
You just need to compare what we post.
I pretty much always use evidence that is in the public domain – most of it gained from online searches – occasionally hard copy print material, or my own reports from public meetings.
Suggestions from others comes in the form marked as “guest post”.
And nothing like the alleged digging for sleaze and using it to blackmail pollies or journos.
The one thing that HAS really surprised me, is indications of putting pressure on some journos, under threat of releasing info about their private lives. I’d never considered that might have been going on. I’d always thought the dominant rightward leaning form of MSM journalism, was due to the political leanings of the editors, and possibly also many journalists.
I am not happy with the way Joyce, Key et al, are trying to defend themselves by throwing mud at us all. Their claims that we all (especially singling out TS) do what WO and KB have been doing, is just spreading mis-information – smoke and mirrors to cover their own ethically challenged methods.
And I’ve NEVER been offered money (or payment in kind) to blog at TS.
Whoa! And Julie Fairey has tweeted this today:
Followed by this tweet:
And this one:
Well spotted karol.
It seems they haven’t yet figured out what to deny and what to admit and minimize.
Exactly mr felix, that is the sense I get from listening to all the apologists so far such as Hooton, Joyce, Hosking, etc etc…
The Nats are all at sea at the moment and have no idea how to respond. They have been caught in the headlights like possums. They have been genuinely surprised and caught out.
Everything should be admitted by at least one of them by the close of play today 😀
So when by Marcus Lush asked if there were any links (and proff, lets not forget proof) Hager couldn’t provide any…as I said yesterday: its a damp squib but it won’t stop the left calling for John Key to resign even though theres no proof of wrong doing
Better luck next time but I’m sure Cam appreciates the extra publicity 🙂
A one liner by a known National Party apparatchik doesn’t negate an entire book.
I will not be in the least bit surprised if Trevor Mallard turns out to have been fed false information about exploited railway workers, and looks like a total idiot in the process, while letting his team down. Hope I’m wrong.
I don’t think anyone takes Mallard seriously anymore
I don’t think anyone takes Slater seriously anymore
I don’t think anyone takes Collins seriously anymore
I don’t think anyone takes Key seriously anymore
They are all just a bunch of sociopathic manipulators who believe that they are better than everyone else.
FuJohK
I don’t think anyone takes Steven Joyce seriously anymore. Ohno I’ve made yet another meaningless statement.
http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2014/08/cameron-slater-like-personally-thank-katt-palmer/
Um, isn’t Slater the master at putting up people’s addresses? And I seem to recall he got a criminal conviction for outing an innocent family. Pot, kettle etc.
For which he recieved a conviction and learnt his lesson whereas these cowards haven’t
Ha! I love your optimism. The first thing Cameron did about the fb post that so outrages you was to post a picture of the woman concerned. I’m really not sure he’s learned his lesson, Pukish.
So PR slips into emotive attack speech – mmm was that not just what you accused me of failing into a day or two ago?
And what left wing people PR? Again your making assumptions – again and again.
It’s the lies that hurt
Cameron Slater has had 2 convictions for breaking court orders this time it could mean Jail time under Jamie Whytes new tougher laws!
still link-whoring for him?
Are you getting paid to do so, or do you need time to check whether that is in Hager’s book, too?
I know the moderators don’t like people telling them how to run the site but PR’s constant linking to that site has got to stop. Not to mention the trolling.
If there was a report button, I’d use it right now.
Its a good thing there isn’t then
Please Please lots of people click on to Whelloilbef*cked..It’ll make him feel less insignificant.
The one person apparently mixed up in this mess that has really surprised me is Katherine Rich, former National MP – I haven’t read the book yet, and I’m dying to know what part Ms Rich has played in the whole nasty story! John Campbell showed her photo as part of the web of people involved last night on Campbell Live!
HS
Why so surprised about Rich’s inclusion in the web? Big-Milk, Tobacco and Alcohol were clearly funding Slater’s poisonous activities, why not the Supermarket duopoly’s lobbyist too?
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10815422
I suppose I just thought she had more personal integrity, Pasupial!
Actually, I was surprised, too.
I suspect this sort of ugliness is what Simon Power foresaw and got away from. Good for him.
I wouldn’t hold Simon Power in such high esteem. He allegedly has quite a lot to answer for about the SCF debacle and their admittance to the Crown Guarantee Scheme..
Oh, didn’t realise.
It’s a shame that no investigative journalist has yet looked into the SCF entry to the Crown Guarantee Scheme, as that is the biggest fraud in NZ’s history imo.
And he exited politics and entered Westpac?
Fully agree mate. Wishart had a look at it but really only scratched the surface. Would dearly love Hager to have a crack at the SCF case however as from what I am led to believe, it would be explosive and could quite conceivably leave this present episode for dead by way of political exposure.
If anyones interested in some rebuttals (I doubt it because it would ruin your narrative)
http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2014/08/two-biggest-lies-hagers-book/
Please Please lots of people click on to Whelloilbef*cked..It’ll make him feel less insignificant.
Interesting new note from Average Kiwi ..
“NOTE – BREAKING NEWS: There are some allegations starting to be revealed that show some Mainstream Media Personalities may be being blackmailed to support National – via their commentaries, after allegedly Prostitutes were approached and information requested about who in the Media were frequent ‘customers’! This would explain much of the media’s constant defense of Scumbags Slater and Key, and their attacks on Left Wing Parties.”
links to the blog ..
http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-14082014/#comment-866049
Looks like the PM’s going to defend Slater and to do that he’s going to have to publicly endorse the guy and get reeeeeal close.
Bit risky.
Oh dear. I just heard John Keys’ drawling, slurring, pretending-to-be-relaxed denial on te radio.
I’ve never heard him take the act this far before.
He’s really, really, really worried.
I’m looking forward to seeing how he will react to the fallout/in the debates etc
Is it online felix?
Don’t know, was a short clip played during radiolive news.
TV3 has reported that the Greens have laid a complaint-with-police:
I was quite irritated with the dirty tactics of the Greens here!
It is people in the Labour party, Goff, Winston etc that should be considering this police complaint rather than the party vote stealing political scavengers, the Greens. Shameless Plonkers!
http://www.3news.co.nz/Dirty-Politics-Greens-lay-complaint-with-police/tabid/1607/articleID/356799/Default.aspx
What wrong with that Clemgeopin? I admire that they have kicked off the formal proceedings into investigating the alleged events. This is a national scandal after all. RNZ reported that Labour are speaking with lawyers at present, so they may also follow with a police complaint.
Oh, Rosie! Can’t you see what is blatantly obvious here? The Greens are simply exploiting the situation ahead of Labour to get some publicity, come across to the public as their saviours, the good guys and grab some more party votes off Labour. Pathetic cheap two bit parasitic plonkers. Of all the parties, the most calculated innocent looking political and electoral harm to the Labour’s party is done by the Greens.
Oh Clem. Still trying to smear the Greens at every opportunity.
They will never do anything good in your eyes.
Encroaching on the Labour’s traditional voters and traditional social policies and stealing our party votes is not something I can see as ‘good’ in my eyes. If Greens stick to their traditional environmental clean green policies, sure, you have a point. What they are now doing is cheap political stunts and calculated cunning harming Labour not only in grabbing our votes but scaring off some left and centre voters off towards National and NZF.
parties don’t own votes, especially as a right.
Votes need to be earned.
If Labour voters are going to the greens, it’s because Greens are doing more to earn them than Labour.
Greens are Labour’s parasites and leeches, just like Conservative are trying to be of NZF and ACT of National.
so apparently the greens are better at attracting previous Labour voters than Labour is?
And this is their fault how?
Not fault. Just crookedness, wickedness, treachery, encroaching, cunning and calculated scavenging. That is what progressive ‘friends’ do, right?
so having better policies and more engaging politicians than Labour is “calculated scavenging”?
AFAIK the greens haven’t been even badmouthing Labour. If you have any examples to the contrary, feel free to back it up. Shit, the most active bad-mouthers of Labour here (other than tories) include Labour party members.
The greens aren’t my cup of tea, and have too many hippies for my taste. But blaming them for Labour’s woes is pretty lame.
Not smearing. Stating my honest opinion as I see it.
Clem, I’m just not that cynical, and I don’t believe The Greens are that small minded and manipulative. It just isn’t their style.
The act of making a Police complaint just can’t be seen as vote grabber.The ordinary voter just wouldn’t care if The Greens are the first to do it. It’s only Day One remember, so much more to unfold yet. (That’s coming from someone who will be a two ticks Labour voter come 20th September).
You may not be cynical but I think, like many Green and Labour voters, you are a nice person, but quite naive and trusting of their well calculated methods and innocent looking tactics designed to cut into Labour.
I too will stick to Labour and I hope that not many more traditional Labour voters get fooled by these plonkers.
Just as one needs to be weary of wolves in sheep clothing, be weary of scorpions dressed as lovely green grasshoppers.
It’s 12.27. Where are they?
What are you going on about ?
The Greens are about the only party in NZ that are acting with any dignity and clarity in NZ at the moment.
If you consider the cunning shameless opportunistic party vote grabbing tactics of the Green pathetic political parasites as acting with ‘dignity and clarity’ you are either sadly mistaken, badly fooled, one of the green party smarty schemers or just a lovely feel good nice simpleton.
Or they just want to ensure politics in NZ is cleaned up.
Also, it actually works better for Labour that the Greens ask for the inquiries, as they appear not to be the aggrieved party.
+1 karol. It’s also quite possible for the parties of the Left to show some sense of solidarity to one another, even if that was not their initial motivation for making the complaint.
It’s bigger than just the Labour Party, in isolation, being the victim.
left: hey you guys all seem to be acting in concert, and it all seems to be linked to the 9th floor.
right: silly conspiracy theories never happens.
left: oh look here are dox it’s true.
right: so what? you knew that all along.
funny, eh? this is why we don’t have to believe anything you lot say.
I don’t know I can’t really see what the fuss is about….. it’s not as if this is really news to anyone is it ?
I remember reading an article on Ede in stuff some time ago that said his job was basically to feed PR to bloggers and thought at the time that it was sad that that is where a lot of politics in the media sits these days compared to when I was younger and there was a bit more open debate of the issues and it just didn’t seem so overtly manufactured.
I also remember saying a while back on this blog that it was shaping as the silliest election in my memory and that certainly looks like it’s coming to pass.
Stop being reasonable, you’re making Felix look like a dork.
Go away troll.
It’s news to me that Ede broke the law by going into a private database. It’s also news that someone leaked SIS information to Ede. Don’t know that is, but I think we should be told.
Yep the article was on stuff as below.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/9510189/Senior-Key-staffers-rubbish-pic-duty
And the Labour server stuff is old news.. not sure why Labour didn’t go after the Nats/Slater at the time ?
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10731963
… bah I’m getting dragged into the detritus as well…my point was is that I really wish politics was a debate of ideas but I suppose those days are long gone. Karol’s still fighting the good fight on this site releasing the Green policies but there seems to be little else in the MSM apart from scuttlebutt.
“my point was is that I really wish politics was a debate of ideas but I suppose those days are long gone.”
“It’s news to me that Ede broke the law by going into a private database.”
Wouldn’t that be the same of Hager’s source?
Possibly. So what? Hager has the (limited) protection of the law as journo. And he didn’t actually do it himself, as you note. The relevant fact is that a trusted advisor to the PM appears to have broken the law. That’s a bit more interesting than some unknown hacker doing it as well.
One crime doesn’t absolve the other – just sayin’
Will be interesting to see what happens if Slater pushes to have the courts reveal the source.
Will also interesting to see what happens to Ede et al.
I think there’ll be more to come…
wasn’t hager’s position merely that a memory stick was sent to him anonymously in the mail?
So even if he felt like naming the source, he couldn’t.
Last night he said that someone contacted him and also said he would talk to his source if someone asked him to clarify some of the information.
I took that to mean he knew who the source was
Whoever they are deserves a gong for services to New Zealand, unless you believe Ministerial corruption is the lesser offence.
interesting – I wonder if his source in that comment was the supplier of the emails, or someone who could simply verify some of them as true (I’d be surprised if Hager wrote a book with only a memory stick of emails to go by – he would have checked much of it with someone).
Great interview by Mike Hosking (never thought I would say those words!) talking to Nicky Hager: http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/auckland/listen-on-demand/audio/1592045740-mhb—nicky-hager–dirty-politics
Well let’s not whitewash breastfeeding advocated completely – they can be quite nasty some of them
[lprent: How does this relate to this post. Your comment is hooked to the post, not responding to comment. If you wanted to raise a topic yourself, then do so in OpenMike.
Sounds like diversion trolling. Banned 6 weeks for stupidity. ]
Yip: http://thestandard.org.nz/dirty-politics-the-brestapo/#comment-866034
[lprent: The funny thing about that is I don’t see many actual instances. What I see is a lot of people claiming that there are such stories. Few links to anything verifiable or documented. I’m afraid that I have come to view it as just another stupid urban myth.
In any case raise it in OpenMike. I can’t see anything in the post that particularly leads to that as a topic, and you aren’t responding the person who managed to make it relate to the post. ]
Here you go Lynn, hopefully this is “proof” enough for you:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff-nation/assignments/got-a-stuff-nation-assignment-idea/10244774/Four-months-of-breastfeeding-madness
You can read the comments for many other similar stories from others.
Another one where the breastfeeding zealots caused unnecessary stress to a mother:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff-nation/assignments/kiwi-mums-was-breast-best-for-you/10344982/When-breast-isn-t-always-best
I guess its true what they about the road to hell being paved with good intentions, theres also this which is sort of in the ballpark
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10783518
http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2014/08/two-biggest-lies-hagers-book/
-Is anyone interested in the other side of the story? Thought not…
Erm, why would anyone want to read the discredited spin merchant’s site?
Oh I don’t know, maybe because theres three sides to every story and at the moment you lot only have one…
Woosh…..
Of course how silly of me, if Hager says it then it must be true. I mean its not like this isn’t motivated by politics or money
Yeah, but the National party’s defence is that WO is lying in the emails. So his word isn’t worth anything.
It’s not just emails from Slater though, is it? Plus there are the other sources that Hager has.
Do we know anyone thats good with computers, hates John Key (and Cameron Slater), has bucketloads of money, past criminal convictions and maybe might know a hacker or two that could steal Slaters emails?
Naah I can’t think of anyone
lame puck. Slater is hopeless, and a liar.
Lots of people hate him. he fucked off the West Coast after refusing to apologise when he got something wrong. Then he dragged out his “I’m a big tough blogger don’t fuck with me blah blah” routine, and got got.
Its as accurate and as close to the truth as Hagers smears are, in fact probably closer
Whale should release all the emails then, to show just how selective Hager was.
But nope, he won’t, and Nope, he is a proven liar. Lies in private, in public, to his mates, his readers, everyone.
Again with the Assumptions PR – you’d be in a spitting fit of rage, if we suggested or even hinted at assuming anything bad about your faction on our side of the fence.
You are looking more and more like a troll with out a clue.
Ah, the old RWNJ fallback position and diversion – it’s only about money.
Why did Pansy Wong resign? – money.
Why did Bill English put his house in a trust and then have us pay for it? – money
Why did John Key help screw over the entire global economy? – money
Why did that National MP promoted his own company in India do it? – money
Why did Collins apparently engage with Chinese authorities as a minister on her husbands business? – money
Guess what dweeb – The entire National Party only does things for money.
How many times are you planning to pimp the same link today. chris?
some good news for Kim Dotcom … he gets his data back.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/10383205/Kim-Dotcom-faces-small-win
He is just a revolting guy, but remember there are women in NZ myself included who could not breastfeed and we do find the push to breastfeeding overwhelming and many young mums say they are made to feel guilty…in saying this Slater will denigrate any group viciously he does not agree with.
[lprent: Off topic. Moved to OpenMike. ]
Mobies investigation of farm employment practices ,for the second time now it shows farmers widespread wage theft by not keeping employment records their needs to be tougher stance by movie to stop this behaviour!
The wet bus ticket approach isn’t working Stephen Joyce and Simon Bridges need a wake up call!
So all you losers think that Hagar is right? Surpirsed any of you can read!!
He or his cronies hacked Whale Oil (admitted by hagar). No one hacked the Labour site because they didn’t need to. Some plonker left a ‘gate” open.
Fortunately for NZ I know at least two people who were undecided who are now going to vote National because of the stink this book has caused and is seen as aleft push.
You dipsticks deserve everything you get including “I’m sorry” Cunliffe, “pooftah’ Robertson, the greens, the big fat german fraud “it” Harre & the bigoted northland maori!! .
“Fortunately for NZ I know at least two people who were undecided who are now going to vote National because of the stink this book has caused and is seen as aleft push.”
How are John and Cam? Holding up OK?
Yep you got it!! Idiot!!
Hahaha classic. I have no doubt you can’t see the irony in your initial comment with “bigoted” and your subsequent “Idiot” call.
Thanks for giving me my second best chuckle of the day.
“pooftah Robertson”?
I wasn’t aware The Standard was a playground in 1980’s Great Britian.
Some of these stories do invite the attention of the lower life-forms.
Theres no need for comments about Robertsons sexuality I reckon (or in fact anyones sexuality for that matter), thats just stooping down to Mallard and Gosgroves level
Far better to focus on Robertsons being useless and disloyal instead
PR You say:
‘Theres no need for comments about Robertsons sexuality I reckon (or in fact anyones sexuality for that matter), thats just stooping down to Mallard and Gosgroves level’ (sic)
That is such a good attempt at amateur spin. (2 out of 10 for at least trying- bout sorry zero for achievement)
This comment is intended for Graeme. It is not meant to enrage you further but I feel it must be said. Feelings of persistent rage are very, very bad for you and the outcomes are always a tad embarrassing or distressing for others.
When the urge to do the written equivalent of splenetic ranting comes on you, stop, take several deep breaths and walk briskly around the room for 10 minutes or so to allow your neuro-endocrine system to recalibrate. When the adrenaline rush has subsided and you’ve restored balance in your cortisol levels, your prefrontal cortex has a better chance of functioning – it literally cannot function normally when your body is flooded with stress hormones.
That is why your comments are so illogical and stupid – you were in the grip of an adrenaline rush. If you can control it, you stand a very good chance of being able to engage the more evolved regions of your brain and thus be able to put forward a more cogent argument.
I do hope you will take this comment in the spirit in which it is intended.
Nice 🙂
Went to a couple of book stores during lunch and Hager’s book is sold out everywhere.
Pity there is no e-book. Guess I will have to wait
I bought mine at Whitcoulls this morning in Blenheim. 2nd to last copy. (The senior staff assistant seemed lemon mouthed and reluctant to sell it to me???)
I guess from what I have read so far, Key and Co have no choice but to belittle and deny.
Fucking MSM pricks.
This story has fallen off the front pages everywhere already.
The media is corrupt as Key and Whaleoil. They are party of the story. We must bring them down as well
Ever occur to you that maybe the majority of NZ don’t think this is the big deal the left think it is and that Hager hasn’t provided any proof of anything?
Has it ever occurred to you that you predicted John Banks would be found ‘not guilty’? 😆
Golly gee I made a prediction and it was wrong, I also predicted that John Key would win the previous two elections, Shearer would defeat Cunliffe for leadership of Labour and that Cunliffe would then beat everyone else for leadership of Labour so by my count thats four I got right vs one I got wrong
So I’m not doing too badly especially when I’m guessing of the lefties on here thought John Key was going lose the last two elections 🙂
I predict John Key will still be the leader after this next election
” I also predicted that John Key would win the previous two elections, Shearer would defeat Cunliffe for leadership of Labour and that Cunliffe would then beat everyone else for leadership of Labour so by my count thats four I got right vs one I got wrong”
Care to link to those predictions? Cos I haven’t been able to find anything from “Puckish Rogue” older than about 10 months.
Which of your pseudonyms should I be searching under?
there you go again, fact-checking like a left-wing conspiracist…
I confess to conspiring to use Hager’s findings to ridicule, call into contempt, prosecute, maim and thwart the National Party’s vicious agenda, in the hope that the guilty may do some time like Banksy only with bars.
Colour me an authoritarian if I respect the law ‘n’ all. I just can’t help myself.
Not worried about the majority, PR. In fact, a few thousand people changing their vote is all we need. I’m interested to know what percentage you reckon will take the ‘no smoke without fire’ line and abandon Team Key. 1%? 2? 5?
It depends on how well National can spin this, the lack of hard evidence might be enough for John Key to scrape through this.
Scrape through! Lordy, is that what its come to? Last week National were going to govern all by themselves. They even told Colon Craig to do one because they were so confident of their awesomeness. Apparently, a week is a long time in dirty politics.
A wins a win no matter the margin
You think you’re winning after this? Governments lose elections. The media aren’t going to like having the National Party’s sleaze-finder sicced onto them.
Watch and learn, Junior.
Ah yes, scraping through, the new ethical benchmark. Clutch at that straw, clutch at it. I’ll get the lifebelt.
“Ever occur to you that maybe the majority of NZ don’t think this is the big deal the left think it is and that Hager hasn’t provided any proof of anything?”
Bingo! “Haven’t bothered to read it”
Smear, insinuations and 2 + 2 = 5 doesn’t equal proof
So? You obviously haven’t read the book, so how would you know?
Has it occurred to you that you’re talking out your arse?
The book wouldn’t be running out so fast if people didn’t care and they trusted the MSM.
Just an observation – The right are now openly playing dirty with us folks on the standard. Name calling, repeating the message(party line) over and over, diversions and distraction.
Best part of Mr Hager’s book, the trolls now look to the casual observer – like the bunch hate mungers they are.
Best part of Mr Hager’s book is that hes made himself out to be a hypocrite:
Stealing emails is bad m’kay unless I can use it for my book in which case its good
False equivalence alert! If this is the best defence the tories can put up, Key may as well bugger off back to Hawaii on the first jet out.
I know its a false equivalence because Hager (by his own admission) recieved stolen emails whereas Cameron Slater hasn’t stolen any emails
So Hagers even worse but its “ok” because its for the greater good (well for his bank balance but thats another story)
The politics of envy, that’s what I would have said about your envy of Hager’s bank balance before I got my mind right, PR (love your initials, PR – I’m looking for a job there now I’m better) but now I realise you’re treading on thin ice Buster, no-one wants to know what you think of some screaming Lefty, unless you’re the Prime Minister. Are you the Prime Minister? Didn’t think so, so shut up and let the real people eat their lasagne.
Nope, in which case it’s bad and Hager can still use it in his work when there’s an overriding public interest.
Please note: this is my opinion, not his. I have no more idea of his than you do.
But but but isn’t
a) a record of names, addresses, phone numbers and bank details of ordinary citizens exactly the same thing as
b) a record of communications between the government and its agents detailing blackmail, media manipulation, and misuse of security intelligence?
Isn’t the public interest in each case identical?
Isn’t everything exactly the same?
Isn’t it? ISN’T IT???
Of course not. Reality is what we say it is from moment to moment. Things that are equivalent one moment are worlds apart the next. You will only achieve true harmony when you can accept the words of authority without even noticing inherent contradictions.
Again PR, assumptions – do you understand how journalism works? Ethics and standards?
and yet you take Hagers word as gospel
Nope, take his documented evidence as documented evidence.
No. We’ve been through this. Documented evidence is what we say it is; screaming Left-wing conspiracy theorists can’t have evidence because they aren’t us.
You need to get your mind right Felix.
Do I need to learn to… love Big Bruv?
You just can’t help it with that attitude of yours 😈
He’s not alone…
Subversives. Troublemakers. Get your minds right.
Cameron and Judith will be along to dish out some beatings just as soon as they’ve got their minds right.
Again, assumptions. His behaviour is perfectly acceptable in Journalist terms, when the other side will block this material from being published. Hence “the public good” argument you have been hearing all day.
So by your logic PR, the paperwork which has convicted many members of the Khmer rouge, should be thrown out, because they we stolen from them.
That books publish by Emma Goldman and Alexander Berkman, attacking the Soviet Union in the late 1920’s should have been banned – because they used papers stolen from Soviet official’s?
Kim.com’s internal emails can be used against him whether they were illegally removed from a court-sealed evidence room or not
No such evidence is admissible in this case, because Cameron is one of us.
You need to get your mind right Adam. The evidence is what Dear Leader says it is. I doubted but since I got my mind right it’s all become clear. Akshully, we shouldn’t be talking about this.
Don’t you have anything positive to say?
Yes, Home Brew did so well with this song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AjgWyxJAGQ
🙂
If you want to read what WO is saying without clicking through to his site, http://www.donotlink.com/framed?5326
h/t https://twitter.com/DirtyPoliticsNZ
Weka, some times your just wonderful.
Go to the source instead:
http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2014/08/david-fisher-scared-needs-two-others-help-journalising/
What source, he’s in Korea facing a court case about lying on radio about Dotcom stealing his emails.
https://twitter.com/KimDotcom
And Kim if your reading this – Bro you made my day.
Dotcom’s a bit-player: Hager gets the credit.
Please Please lots of people click on to Whelloilbef*cked..It’ll make him feel less insignificant.
America’s Gaza.
https://twitter.com/AntonioFrench
https://twitter.com/AntonioFrench/media
https://twitter.com/hashtag/ferguson?src=hash
https://twitter.com/hashtag/ferguson?src=hash&mode=photos
SHA’s the answer to housing issues.? NOT
http://easterncourier.realviewdigital.com/#folio=1
SHA’s are failing. Nationals answer to the housing crisis within Auckland is fast losing support with those who are providing land and housing to the market. Why because they did not listen to concerns as to its unworkable nature. Just read John Mapleston’s comments. Unfortunately the link is hard coded so I am unable to copy the section, this is almost 1,400 sections from the touted SHA’s. And our major displays …. nothing , and he was the best person on election night for the position 🙁
Noew all we need to do is for Labour to review it’s Kiwibuild policy that is also IMO unworkable, as there is no available land to build the 5,000 p.a. properties which will require upto 200 h.a. p.a. within Auckland. And if there was then to build these at an affordable price unless we sidestep NZ manufactures and start to import CHEAP building materials & exclude them from council levies
One of the best comment I’ve read all day.
And Russlle Brown too,
Russell Brown @publicaddress · 4h
Any journalist who can’t detect significance in #DirtyPolitics should perhaps find another trade.
+1. And Brown is reasonably establishment, not some radical left wing nutter 😉
Ive been thinking the very end of the “Planet Key” song was very very perceptive wasn’t it? Those two “good old boys” dressed in their All-Black outfits all chummy like, and Slater gets too near to Key and voila, KEY FALLS!! Those songwriters must be psychic! LOL
Not looking good for Slater. John Key has all but disowned him and I see he is already backing down from his accusations toward k.com
Key said somewhere that he has only been in contact with whaleoil four times in the last year. I thought he had said that he was in weekly contact with him??
Yes Ffloyd, the confusion you’re experiencing might be related to the fact that our PM is a serial fucking liar.
“our PM is a serial fucking liar.”
I like that. In fact I will go further, I love it. It has certain ring about it.
When you lie, make very sure that the new lie fits with the old lie you told earlier! From the “Perfect Liars” handbook I would suggest!
Well done Phil Goff!! He shut Mary Contrary Wilson down TWICE
Well done Phil Goff!! He shut Mary Contrary Wilson down TWICE
Can you believe that RNZ used Pete George as an impartial judge on blogs?!
That’s a new low for Checkpoint.
What time was that Paul? (approx)?
6.16 p.m
http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/checkpoint/audio/20145717/blogger-on-hager-claims
Listen and weep.
On second thoughts, I don’t think I can bring myself to listen at the moment.
Yeah, don’t ..I did to save you all the bother.
I just wonder at RNZ’s selection of sources.
6:16pm
http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/checkpoint/audio/20145717/blogger-on-hager-claims
Thanks you two. I commented about PG here http://thestandard.org.nz/national-response/#comment-866518
Anyone else notice the huge upwards inflection when Key was asked does he still stand by Jason Ede?
I’m not body language expert, but he sounded extremely insincere when he answered. He looked pretty shaky throughout the whole interview.
http://www.3news.co.nz/Nicky-Hager-book-causes-political-muck-to-fly/tabid/1607/articleID/356878/Default.aspx
About 40s in.
Oh dear, that was quite a squeal.
Key is donkey-deep in this and everyone can see it.
The video now seems to have been pulled. There’s only a photo there. But I recorded the news off tv.
Not surprised they had it pulled, that was a disastrous performance from Key.
And right when he needed to be on his A-game too.
Soooo rattled.
Actually, it’s back now.
And the one that followed on 3 News tonight, is about Collins.
It’s the one in which Key seems fed up talking about her: says with a shrug, “Oh well, let’s wait and see.”
Bored. Insincere. Out of here.
And Ede again at 8.40 and shortly afterwards. Key’s tone at 8.49 is astonishing! Have a look at the suit behind him and to the left. His lips tighten every time Ede is mentioned.
btw nice to hear Key reads the Standard. Hi, John! You’re going
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What are you looking at? The video that Tamati linked to is just over 3 minutes long.
3News had the full corridor interview up for a while, but have replaced it with the shortened piece. I’ll have a hunt on their website and see if it’s tucked away somewhere. It was twenty minutes of Key looking like a possum in the headlights, complete with a series of high pitched squeaks, mumbled words of (sort of) support for Jason Edes and repeated shrill accusations that Hager is lying. Possibly the worst presser Key has ever done.
Edit: here ’tis. 8.59 is amaaaazing!
http://www.3news.co.nz/Video-John-Key-talks-Nicky-Hagers-Dirty-Politics/tabid/1607/articleID/356848/Default.aspx
worthy of a post of its own
Tim Watkin has focused on it in a post.
Here’s a full summation of what he said in 12 sentences.
Nicky Hager is part of the Left conspiracy theorists. The Left play dirty tricks and lie and smear because they have no policy so that’s the only way they can attack the government. The Left got Hager to write the book because they’ve got nothing better to do but lie and smear. They can’t talk about the things that matter because they’ve got no policy. It’s a smear campaign by the Left. Nicky Hager is a conspiracy theorist. He’s working for the Left. The Left are bereft of policy. I stand by Jason Ede and Judith Collins. No. I haven’t spoken to them. No I haven’t read the book but I know whats in it. Look its a conspiracy theory from the Left etcetera…
John Key is disgusting. I can’t believe that he is able to retain the office of Prime Minister after this:
This is just like when he refused to read the police report on Banks, only worse. Clearly there is nothing he thinks can’t be solved by simply refusing to look at any evidence of wrongdoing by his Ministers.
This is the ‘higher standard’ he promised for Ministers in his Government back in 2008. What a prick. The contempt he has for all New Zealanders is obvious.
Wow.
If you want to see how biased lamestream media has become watch these two videos.
Rawden Christie’s bias is so overt it is tangible
How on earth does someone like him to be a state broadcaster?
Compare his approach to Laile Harre…
http://tvnz.co.nz/breakfast-news/laila-harre-attacks-pm-effigy-video-slur-6053155
To the fawning approach to Key.
Chummy chat about Key’s wife, no questioning of Slater as a reliable source
http://tvnz.co.nz/politics-news/john-key-hits-dotcom-over-burning-effigy-video-6051713
Christie….just another Slater pawn.
TVNZ needs a massive overhaul.
Mike Hosking must be the most biased pos passing themself off as a jonolist in this country.
Yes his handling of Hager at 7 pm today was a disgrace to someone working for a public broadcaster.
Labour needs to muscle up with TVNZ and remove him.
btw Joyce looked pretty haggard. Must have burning the midnight oil.
http://tvnz.co.nz/seven-sharp/august-14-6057340
A POS wouldn’t dream of going near Hosking, it might ruin it’s reputation! LOL
Touché
Good to see some balance restored to the debate by Hosking on Seven Sharp. Middle New Zealand (ie where elections are won) incline to his world view more than Hager’s. That’s why he gets the big bucks!
No he gets the big bucks, because the people with the big bucks want him to sell the elite’s spin to ordinary NZers.
And Hoskins is sufficiently ego centric to sell any principles he may once have had to become their puppet.
No he gets the big bucks, because the people with the big bucks want him to sell the elite’s spin to ordinary NZers.
And Hoskins is sufficiently ego centric to sell any principles he may once have had to become their puppet.
“Good to see some balance restored to the debate by Hosking”
Is this a wind up?
“There is no smoking gun”
We can tell that by the way you guys are soooooo relaxed about the whole thing, and are very careful to make sure we know that 🙂
It is amusing how all this is being labelled “conspiracy” stuff
because that is EXACTLY what slater, Collins, ede, farrar et al were doing…. conspiring …..
for fucks sake, it seems the definition of conspiracy is not even understood by teamkey.
what a bunch of losers
Don’t read Armstrong’s article if you don’t feel like it.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=11308460
Just read the comments below and sort them by most liked.
Seems like a lot of people who read the Herald are getting sick of Key.
Want the book?
ebook now available
http://www.wheelers.co.nz/ebook/9781927213384-dirty-politics/?view=list%5B
awesome!
edit: ah, not quite. Wheeler’s epub is a lending service, not sure how accessible it is…
not accessible to the public until a library picks it up I think
I smell very unhappy National Party people all across the whole country tonight
karma can be brutal or beautiful – it is all up to you
Lest we forget Colon.
Sorry to repeat myself but I still chuckle at the tweet”
‘ ‘ Colin Craig reportedly furiously phoning lawyers after being excluded from Hagar’s book’
Nice.
Felix Geiringer @BarristerNZ
@WhaleOil quoting @JohnKeyPM on Jo Hall: “same feral fucking bitch that screams at him when he goes to pike river meetings” #DirtyPolitics
https://twitter.com/BarristerNZ/status/499460124235141120
via – http://www.reddit.com/r/newzealand/comments/2df693/how_john_top_bloke_key_talks_behind_closed_doors/
Key said that?
Unbelievable…
The actual text in the book says that it’s unlikely that Key used that language, but the point was that when the country was aghast at what Slater had said, Key was phoning Slater to offer him support.
I think we need to be careful here. The point has been made, why would anyone believe anything Slater has said. So where quotes in the book are from Slater’s emails or FB posts etc, then those always need to be put in context, not taken at face value.
of course weka
but what particular words do you think Key would have used when saying that? genuinely curious.
has anyone ever heard Key swear?
I don’t listen to Key very often, so can’t help there sorry.
ha ha. I heard him live once and he sounded like he does on the tele, all sneery and smart arse.
But even if he (in his typical sneery smart arse way) used words like “Don’t worry Cam, that woman is the one who yells at me whenever I go to Pike River meetings”….
….. is pretty much just as bad, in the context
https://twitter.com/NL2NZ/status/499846181598404608/photo/1
For those who don’t know who Jo Hall is – she is the mother of the young West Coast man whose death Slater danced for joy over.
But I don’t quite get it joe90 – is that Slater quoting John Key? So John Key said those words … “”same feral fucking bitch that screams at him when he goes to pike river meetings””
If so it is unbelievable
off the planet for 90% of new Zealanders
if that is so then key is gone tomorrow
On Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Dirty-Politics-poisoning-political-environment-ebook/dp/B00MP7GKZU/ref=sr_1_2
Thanks!
Abroad huh….
Whaleoil shared a link.
about an hour ago
Been a big day – time for some silliness: The post Been a big day – time for some silliness appeared first on Whale Oil Beef Hooked | Whaleoil Media.
Are TheGodKey and Disciples shitting or what ?
I think they’re shitting. Dunno what it is. Maybe the TheGodKey’s “Mr Slater” 15 times in one minute ? Maybe Stevo Joyce engaging a never seen persona on RNZ this morning ? Like really really anxious. Maybe ‘Tiger’ ‘Spinner gettin’ into ‘im like we’ve never heard ?
Even TV3’s saying “The Prime Minister is distancing himself……..” Which sorta confirms a closeness to start with. Oh Fucking No !!! Is this Wall Street ’29 ? It be very good were,,,,,!
Calling FizzyAnus……SSLands……GooseStepMan. Whadaya reckon boys ?
Meanwhile SlaterPorn’s doin’ the hsopitals of Tel Aviv. Lookin’ to commune with a needy victim of a 7 year old Gazan terrorist. Fuk he’s a good lad that boy !
I went to Internet-Mana meeting tonight in Blenheim. Small crowd. Kim Dotcom unable to come but a recording of one of his speeches was played. Pretty electric presentation. Wide range of folk there. Cross ages and cross race. Laila very clued up/good speaker and quick with responses at her finger tips. Glad I went but poor local advertising gave poor attendance.
Labour are expected in town sometime but no date given.