Open Mike 15/08/2018

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    • Part of the last Government’s silent cuts no doubt. The current Government will have to clean this cupboard as well!!!

    • Sabine 1.2

      at the beginning.

      One at a time.
      Unless we want to do away the notion that this country actually gives a poop about rape, its victims and the damage it causes.

      Surely there is some property for some rich fuck that needs protecting. Policing is hard work, i hear.

  1. Sanctuary 2

    LoL someone tell Fran O’Sullivan it isn’t the 1990s anymore… Jeez talk about rust never sleeping, have any of the old age duffers who seem the crew the Herald opinion pages these days had a new idea since 1984?

    Talk about ageing neolib journalist waving a fist at the clouds!

    First, privatisation was more or less a disaster in NZ. Secondly it is unpopular with voters thirdly it is wildly unpopular with Labour voters…

    • dukeofurl 2.1

      Someone tell Fran its cheaper to use the income from the state assets to pay the interest.

      The other mistake she makes , which shows she has zero commercial nous, is that NSW can do deals because of the tax benefits, with the loss of tax revenue only affecting the Federal government revenue not the state government. In NZ we dont have a state government intermediary, any gains for business are losses from IRD.

      • Nic the NZer 2.1.1

        Why doesn’t she propose borrowing it from the RBNZ directly and paying any interest to them. RBNZ profits get rolled into the government accounts as profit.

        • dukeofurl 2.1.1.1

          Not going to be creating money.

          • Draco T Bastard 2.1.1.1.1

            Yes, because only the private banks are allowed to do that.

          • Nic the NZer 2.1.1.1.2

            Well that can’t be the reason because the money gets created exactly the same even when the government borrows from the private sector.

            This happens during the spending of the money process which happens either way.

            • Draco T Bastard 2.1.1.1.2.1

              Well that can’t be the reason because the money gets created exactly the same even when the government borrows from the private sector.

              Actually, it’s not the same or shouldn’t be.

              If the government created the money they shouldn’t be paying interest on it whereas they will be if they borrow from the private sector.

              And that, of course, is why the private sector is always complaining about the government creating money. If the government did the private sector would lose a major part of its government guaranteed unearned income.

              • Nic the NZer

                Right (well mostly) but obviously the question is why is she not proposing this? The implication is Fran doesn’t actually understand the stuff she is talking about.

                Mostly? Well obviously if the treasury borrows from the RBNZ they are still likely to pay some interest on that.

                • Draco T Bastard

                  Right (well mostly) but obviously the question is why is she not proposing this?

                  Because we’ve had it drummed into us over the last few decades that a government creating money is evil. Meanwhile the fact that the private banks create money all the time and push hyper-inflation in assets (asset bubbles) and the fact of governments creating money has brought about prosperity is carefully hidden.

                  Who benefits from those actions?

    • SaveNZ 2.2

      +1 Sanctuary

  2. Jenny 3

    A No-Fly Zone Is Needed Around Idlib to Prevent “Unprecedented” Massacre
    Moazzam Begg – Democracy Now, APRIL 19, 2018

    And one thing I have to say, that whether it’s the United States, whether it’s Russia, whether it’s the Gulf states, whether it’s Britain or France, all have taken part in what I call the aerial gang rape of Syria. Everybody has bombed the opposition. And it’s only now twice that the United States government has bombed Syrian military positions, and this latest one with the chemical facilities.

    Now, I’m completely against Western intervention, because I’ve tasted firsthand what that can do and what it’s done. But if you look at the strikes, literally, I think it’s the first time in history that the Americans have bombed over 150 missiles, together with the United States and France, and killed nobody. Now that’s great, but perhaps they could extend this kind of deathless aerial bombing campaign to everybody else that they’ve been bombing, because, thus far, it’s only the side of the rebels that the Americans have hit.

    “Aerial gang rape”, exactly describes what has been done to the people of Syria by all the intervening powers, including the US, they have all piled on against the rebels. Moazzam Begg who himself was a victim of the CIA  program of ‘Extraordinary Rendition’ and who went to Syria to investigate the Assad’s regime role in working with the CIA to carry out torture of CIA captives, is an Authoritative commentator on both the Assad regime and the superpowers’ motives and actions in Syria.

    If there is one thing all these arrayed powers can’t stand; And that is, a people seeking their own independence and freedom out from under an autocratic tyranny, especially if those people live in an oil rich area of the Middle East.

    Witness how in the First Iraq war the US pulled back and let Saddam Hussein put down a popular revolt by the Iraqi people.

    On February 15, 1991, as the Desert Storm air campaign blasted Iraqi defenses in Kuwait, Bush flew to Andover, Mass., for a rally at the Raytheon plant, which manufactured the Patriot Air Defense System.

    In the middle of a rousing speech, he noted, almost as an aside, “There’s another way for the bloodshed to stop, and this is for the Iraqi military and the Iraqi people to take matters into their own hands and force Saddam Hussein, the dictator, to step aside.”

    This was a notion trumpeted by other Administration officials as well, but what they and Bush had in mind was encouraging senior leaders of the Iraqi army or Baath Party to revolt.

    “We didn’t expect a general public uprising,” says a former Bush aide. It was the Shi’ites in southern Iraq and the Kurds in the north–both of whom had long been subjugated by Saddam–who took Bush’s words to heart.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/04/07/timep.betray.tm/

    • Ed 3.1

      Who wonders if we have one of those staged gas attacks any second now?
      Organised by the Jihadi headchopping gang known as the Whites Helmets to blame Syria for it.

      • Jenny 3.1.1

        Ed, You should really stop paying attention to Alex Jones.

        “ISIS Crisis Actors: White Helmets Aren’t White Hats”
        Infowars, Jul 26, 2018

        https://www.infowars.com/isis-crisis-actors-white-helmets-arent-white-hats/

        You would be better off listening to Amy Goodman

        https://www.democracynow.org/2016/10/13/the_white_helmets_as_syria_death

        • One Two 3.1.1.1

          Jenny, I didn’t read your thoughts on the Israeli ‘humanitarian rescue’ of the white helmets…

          Whose ‘assets’ were that group…at face value it raises many questions…

          Twice previously I raised it with you…

          • Jenny 3.1.1.1.1

            One Two 3.1.1.1
            15 August 2018 at 11:34 am
            Jenny, I didn’t read your thoughts on the Israeli ‘humanitarian rescue’ of the white helmets…

            I recall making extensive comments on the white helmets being transitted through Israel on this site.

            Because many of my comments don’t get seen I have started keeping copies.

            For your benefit I will repost one made at the time in a reply to Bill.

            I think what you are missing here Bill, (either consciously or unconsciously) is all of this is going on behind a background of mass fascist style extermination being rained on the Syrian population by the Assad regime. Of which there is more than enough evidence of.

            As horrible as it is, the West’s preoccupation with gas weapons and their possession and use by the Assad regime, obscures the fact that most of the aerial genocide has been committed with high explosives dropped on civilian cities and towns.


            Zouhir Al Shimale, Middle East Eye – Thursday, 28 June 2018

            Tens of thousands flee as regime-allied airstrikes pound southern Syria
            The Japan Times – Friday, June 29, 2018

            At least 270,000 Syrians flee latest deadly regime offensive
            Kareem Khadder and Judith Vonberg, CNN – Monday, July 2, 2018

            The tens of thousands of civilians fleeing the Assad genocide piling up against the closed borders of Israel and Jordan represent a massive and building humanitarian crisis.

            In Jordan, in response to the emerging humanitarian disaster, ‘Open the borders’ has become a top trending hashtag on social media

            Jordanians urge government to take in Syrians fleeing Daraa
            Middle East Eye – Friday, 29 June, 2018

            No such public campaign has emerged in the racist Zionist state of Israel which has an understanding with the Assad regime, and a reputation for massacring civilians on its borders.

            More than 270,000 displaced by southern Syria fighting, UN says
            Times of Israel – Monday, 2 July, 2018

          • Jenny 3.1.1.1.2

            One Two 3.1.1.1
            15 August 2018 at 11:34 am
            Jenny, I didn’t read your thoughts on the Israeli ‘humanitarian rescue’ of the white helmets…

            Whose ‘assets’ were that group…at face value it raises many questions…

            Twice previously I raised it with you…

            And though they didn’t appear, twice previously I have responded, which the admin knows.

            I have again just now tried to post my response to your queries but still keep getting blocked.

            I will again email them to the admin in the hope that they will be let through.

        • Ed 3.1.1.2

          Never read or listened to Alex Jones.
          My sources are Cockburn, Fisk, Galloway, Bartlett and Beeley, as I’ve mentioned before.

          • Jenny 3.1.1.2.1

            Ed 3.1.1.2
            15 August 2018 at 8:13 pm
            Never read or listened to Alex Jones.
            My sources are Cockburn, Fisk, Galloway, Bartlett and Beeley, as I’ve mentioned before.

            What’s the difference?

            These people’s views (and yours), are pretty much interchangeable, with that of Alex Jones and Ron Paul, and other far Right and fascist groups.

            I dare you to say they aren’t

    • Cemetery Jones 3.2

      I’m fine with Sunni jihadists getting aerially gang-raped. And the rebels in Idlib are Sunni jihadists. That’s what we invented air combat wings for. Soon they’ll be dead, or forced to bend the knee in acceptance that Allah willed their crushing defeat at the hands of Vladimir Putin, Bashar al-Assad, and Quassem Suleimani.

      “If there is one thing all these arrayed powers can’t stand; And that is, a people seeking their own independence and freedom out from under an autocratic tyranny, especially if those people live in an oil rich area of the Middle East.”

      Yeah, that describes the Kurdish perhaps – but these guys in Idlib were trying to annihilate them, not free them. A brigade or two of Syrian military may have genuinely been a ‘free’ and ‘Syrian’ army in the early days of the revolt. But Idlib today is full of foreign fanatics, not secular Syrians.

      • Jenny 3.2.1

        Cemetery Jones 3.2
        15 August 2018 at 9:33 am
        I’m fine with Sunni jihadists getting aerially gang-raped…..

        And are you are also fine with genocide and torture?

        • One Two 3.2.1.1

          Your comments have defended into farce…

          Perhaps you could address the points CJ made…

          Your confusion must be expanding, what with the ‘humanitarian resue’ of the WH’s….by you know…actual practitioners of genocide….

          Eh, Jenny!

          • Jenny 3.2.1.1.1

            I could make a comment on why CJ thinks that; “…Idlib today is full of foreign fanatics, not secular Syrians.” And it might have some bearing on the genocide being carried out by the regime and obviously supported by him.

            ‘Crisis Actor’ Isn’t a New Smear. The Idea Goes Back to the Civil War Era.
            Niraj Chokshi – New York Times, February 24, 2018

            In his 1963 “Letter From a Birmingham Jail” defending nonviolent civil disobedience, the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. described the tactic as an effort to silence African-American voices.

            “If our white brothers dismiss as ‘rabble rousers’ and ‘outside agitators’ those of us who employ nonviolent direct action, and if they refuse to support our nonviolent efforts, millions of Negroes will, out of frustration and despair, seek solace and security in black nationalist ideologies — a development that would inevitably lead to a frightening racial nightmare,” Dr. King wrote.

            Label the opposition “terrorists” and “Jihadis”, and it seems that some Western Leftists will support genocide and torture and mass disappearances, and even cheer it on. In that they are not too dissimilar to the extreme Right.

            What we do know is that Idlib has been the place where thousands of Sunni refugees ethnically cleansed from regime areas have sought refuge. Just as CJ has said he wants to see these people, “getting aerially gang-raped”.

            He may get his gory wish.

        • Cemetery Jones 3.2.1.2

          Unlike the Sunni jihadists (tourists or locals alike) I don’t really like those ideas. Neither did the Alawis, Yazidis or the Kurds – or the Christians of various local ethnicities. All of whom were fine under the old regime, but genocided by these Sunni extremists you seem to like so much.

          Not to worry, while the holy rollers are about to get BTFO hard, it seems that the Syrian, Russian, and Iranian command are trying to figure out how to do it with minimal civilian casualties, which is why the offensive on Idlib has yet to commence.

          https://maps.southfront.org/syrian-war-report-august-13-2018-tiger-forces-are-deploying-in-northern-latakia/

    • mauī 3.3

      Of course what right minded “rebels” or “opposition” would make millions of their own citizens into refugees. Now it seems Syrians are returning to live under that “butcher” and dictator Assad. Makes no sense at all and shows up Begg.

      For some real coverage on Syria from 4:30 onwards,

      • Jenny 3.3.1

        Tea Party founder Ron Paul – the sanitised version of Alex Jones, but just as nutty and extreme.

        Really Maui?

        • Jenny 3.3.1.1

          Ron Paul Liberty Report – The Climate Change Hoax

        • One Two 3.3.1.2

          TIME Magazine – 2006

          http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1571751,00.html

          The Bush Administration has been quietly nurturing individuals and parties opposed to the Syrian government in an effort to undermine the regime of President Bashar Assad. Parts of the scheme are outlined in a classified, two-page document that says that the U.S. already is “supporting regular meetings of internal and diaspora Syrian activists” in Europe

          The document bluntly expresses the hope that “these meetings will facilitate a more coherent strategy and plan of actions for all anti-Assad activists.”

          I’ve posted this to you previously…but it doesn’t fit your views on Syria…

          • Jenny 3.3.1.2.1

            Hi One Two from the link you supplied:

            The document says that Syria’s legislative elections, scheduled for March 2007, “provide a potentially galvanizing issue for… critics of the Assad regime.” To capitalize on that opportunity, the document proposes a secret “election monitoring” scheme, in which “internet accessible materials will be available for printing and dissemination by activists inside the country [Syria] and neighboring countries.” The proposal also calls for surreptitiously giving money to at least one Syrian politician who, according to the document, intends to run in the election. The effort would also include “voter education campaigns” and public opinion polling, with the first poll “tentatively scheduled in early 2007.”

            Who-o-o-oh. Scary.

            Against this; is the record of the Assad regime being a foundation member of the US led ‘Coalition Of The Willing’ against Iraq. A war in which the Assad regime supplied the US with 19,000 Syrian soldiers.

            Also against the Regime Change conspiracy theory; is the fact that the Assad regime worked very closely with the CIA and let out their torture prisons to by used to torture CIA captives.

            Syrians explain how pro-Assad conspiracy theories are hurting them
            C.J. Werleman – TRT World, February 21, 2018

            …..pro-Assad/Russia loons and propagandists have been so effective in muddying the waters, casting aspersions on Assad’s victims, and deflecting criticism away from this century’s most brutal dictator that they undermine any coordinated and sustained international effort to protect the Syrian people from a genocide.

            So I asked a number of Syrians what damage these debunked conspiracy theories have imparted on the Syrian people and the pro-democracy revolution……

        • mauī 3.3.1.3

          So you’d rather talk about climate change fair enough. That’s what some of the liberals do on here, switch topics and not address the point, and end up calling anyone with a differing point of view that they are alt-right.

          • Jenny 3.3.1.3.1

            I put up the post on Ron Paul’s climate change denial piece to show how nutty the Tea Party founder is.

            But if you watch the whole video, near they end, you will see how Ron Paul ties up his climate change denial with his support for Basha Assad in one neat little package.

            P.S. It is well known that Ron Paul is close to the Alt-right.

            Personally I wouldn’t get my version of events in Syria from Ron Paul.

            You might as well get your views shaped by Alex Jones or RT.

            Top 10 Racist Ron Paul Friends, Supporters

            Ron Paul Neo-Conderate and slavery apologist;

            • Jenny 3.3.1.3.1.1

              The alternate reality that enables genocide in Syria
              Sam Hamad – April 30, 2018

              Streicher’s greatest weapon, his writing, was his ultimate downfall. He recorded his own crimes. Today, in the age of the internet, culpability for what we write is if anything potentially stronger – every moment of sneering dehumanisation, justification, obfuscation and enablement is documented for all to see.

              All those who have played a part in enabling this genocide ought to take heed.

          • Ed 3.3.1.3.2

            Jenny has already done this to me on this thread.

  3. Ed 4

    45 children killed in a bus by an air strike in Yemen.
    Not even mentioned in the news.

    45 people die due to a bridge collapse in Italy.
    Headline news.

    Our racist and imperialist corporate media sucks.

    • dukeofurl 4.1

      But it has no ‘news value’ they say.

      What they mean is , ‘does it look like us ‘

      The news crews will be next looking for a grieving ‘Italian young mother of 3’, as thats the demographic the advertisers like.

      • Ed 4.1.1

        Less news value, according to RNZ, than the court case of a foreign cricketer in a drunken brawl.

        • dukeofurl 4.1.1.1

          Colonial cringe…. whats newsworthy in Britain must make it on the news here.

          Dont they realise we have computers and if we wanted to follow British news we would do so…at the horses mouth without waiting for them to replay it here

    • Do you not actually watch the news, Ed? The attack on the bus got wide coverage here in NZ and overseas.

      Use google. A search for ‘yemen bus attack’ brings up 36000 results in google’s news option, including the BBC, Al Jazeera, CNN, and many, many other sources.

      If you narrow the search to ‘yemen bus attack nz’ you get a mere 21000 hits, including just about every news outlet in Aotearoa on the very first page.

      None so blind …

      • Ed 4.2.1

        There was very little coverage in New Zealand.

        • marty mars 4.2.1.1

          Not true – you just didn’t see it. Perhaps try other news sources than msm.

        • Sabine 4.2.1.2

          funny, i read about it in the news. For a few days actually.

          Maybe you should increase the number or news outlet you look at. You seem to have boxed yourself into a corner where it seems you don’t get the information you think you need.

        • James 4.2.1.3

          That’s because Eddie – you (according to your own post a while back) stopped reading / watching most of NZ’s MSM.

          Just because the 2 conspirator YouTube channels and a mad bugger in the UK you watch didn’t mention it – dosnt mean the rest of the world didn’t.

          that’s the problem when your head is buried in the sand so far. And yet you still ignore all the people that tell you you are wrong.

          Sad.

        • joe90 4.2.1.4

          There was very little coverage in New Zealand.

          Why do you lie?

          https://screenshots.firefox.com/QDv5uaQooAIPObuo/www.google.com

      • Siobhan 4.2.2

        I just Googled ‘My Big Toe’ and got 421,000,000 results.
        25,200,000 results in Google News, but i doubt any of those results do justice to my big toe.

        Really you would have to search within a news site to ascertain whether the coverage was ‘equal’ or well covered or did justice to the event ie..timing of piece after event, length of piece, context/message in headline and article, position in the News order/cycle of the day, longevity in the News cycle.

        • Ed 4.2.2.1

          Thank you Siobhan.
          The story was covered minimally.
          Maybe it was buried in websites ; it was nowhere near the headlines.

      • Ed 4.2.3

        Did you listen to Mediawatch this week?

        “Media in the middle of free speech frenzies; echoes of the past in fake news row; Stormy Daniels vs Yemen – no contest.”

        https://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/mediawatch/audio/2018657725/mediawatch-for-12-august-2018

    • Herodotus 4.3

      Ed, the children killed in the bus was a leading news item over the last few days.
      https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2018/08/saudi-airstrike-hits-bus-of-children-killing-dozens.html

    • Andre 4.4

      As others have pointed out, this incident has in fact been covered by mainstream media in New Zealand. Meanwhile, I’m aware of other incidents in the last few days of similar impact or worse elsewhere in the world that actually aren’t in the local media, that you aren’t highlighting either.

      Could it be, Ed, that your concern isn’t so much with the people affected by these incidents, but maybe, just maybe, more in finding an angle you can use to whine about the media?

  4. Ed 5

    Somerset retirement homes boss whinging facts they’re finding it hard to recruit nurses and cares on RNZ business and bleating that the government should let more foreign workers in.

    The key question.
    Why didn’t media puppet Gules Beckworth ask the obvious question?

    “Why don’t you pay your workers more?”

    RNZ has become a tool of neoliberalism.

    • Ed, according to a family member, they under employ lots of staff on a casual basis, and pay the least amount possible. They want staff who do not know their rights.

      • Ed 5.1.1

        Yes, that sounds about for the age ‘care’ profiteers.
        Richie McCaw invests heavily in this industry, doesn’t he?
        What a guy.

        • marty mars 5.1.1.1

          wtf your smearing sneering of people you know little about shows you are acting out of touch and nasty. Not cool.

          • mauī 5.1.1.1.1

            Well it seems Ed is correct that he is an investor. The sneer seems a valid one to me.

            • marty mars 5.1.1.1.1.1

              But why bring him into it – there is no good reason. There isn’t even a connection other than the tenuous investor one – how many investors? Prob ed and you too if you’re in kiwisaver. All it did was dilute eds argument – he just shot his own foot off but its okay he’ll take the other one off tomorrow and they keep growing back.

            • Ed 5.1.1.1.1.2

              Evidence.
              McCaw is a heavy investor in a crooked underpaying industry.

              “All Black captain Richie McCaw has been planning for retirement by investing in the aged-care industry. McCaw has a sizeable portfolio in the aged-care sector, and owns between 1 and 5 per cent in around 13 aged-care homes around New Zealand.”

              “Companies Office records show McCaw first invested in retirement homes in the mid-2000s, jointly with a company called Banco Trustees Limited. He took out a 1 per cent stake in Oakwoods Lifecare and Ashwood Park Lifecare in 2012, before taking a stake in Bainlea House retirement facility in Rangiora last year. McCaw’s manager, Dean Hegan, told the Herald on Sunday the player preferred not to speak about his personal investments.”

              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11203208

              • mauī

                Thank you Ed, your points are always relevant. If only we had a great leader on the pitch who would call out these horrid corporates…

        • James 5.1.1.2

          What a guy indeed. Richie for PM !

          • Bewildered 5.1.1.2.1

            Yep certainly done more for nz than Ed raging and raving on his keyboard, and not just services to rugby

            • Ed 5.1.1.2.1.1

              When I say something that enrages James and Belidered, I must be saying something correct.
              Happy to amend my statement if you can disprove my assertion about McCaws heavy investment in the retirement industry?
              Or is McCaw God and cannot be critiqued.
              Our irrational fawning of sports players is an embarrassment.

    • Gabby 5.2

      Sniggering Guyno asked the GoBus guy what their profits were last year. ‘Commercially sensitive’ spluttered GoBusGuy.

  5. Sanctuary 6

    “…The key question.
    Why didn’t media puppet Gules Beckworth ask the obvious question?

    “Why don’t you pay your workers more..?”

    Gullible Giles is a bit of a lightweight.

    • Ed 6.1

      He is a careerist. He is ambitious for Giles Beckworth.
      So he won’t ask any difficult questions.
      He won’t bite the hand that feeds him.
      He is a corporate lackey.

  6. Adrian Thornton 7

    Corbyn hatchet job rolls on and on and on….

    Thankfully Corbyn is finally pushing back, and getting pissed off (in his mild way)…about time.

    • Ed 7.1

      Netanyahu tweeting against Corbyn shows up how corrupt the 100 Labour MPs are.

      • indiana 7.1.1

        After watching the video, If he was there for the conference – imbalanced as it was by the description of who the attendees were – he could have politely refused attending the reef laying ceremony. As much as he tries to sugar coat it by saying he is paying respect the Tunisia incident, he didn’t do anything to disassociate the Black September members from the reef laying event.

    • marty mars 7.2

      His enemies have found a seam to dig or unpick depending upon your simile. I hope he weathers the course and keeps his powder dry for when it will be most useful.

  7. Carolyn_Nth 8

    Some jaw-dropping neo-fashism from an Australian Senator. He invokes the “final solution” in a speech calling for European immigrants only, and especially NOT Muslims.

    An Australian crossbench senator has invoked the term “the final solution” in an inflammatory speech calling for a plebiscite asking voters whether they want to end all immigration by Muslims and non-English speaking people “from the third world”.

    Fraser Anning, formerly of the far-right Pauline Hanson One Nation party, and now a member of the Katter’s Australia party, used his maiden speech in the Senate to call for “a plebiscite to allow the Australian people to decide whether they want wholesale non-English speaking immigrants from the third world, and particularly whether they want any Muslims”.

    He also invoked the white Australia policy, suggesting Australians may want “to return to the predominately European immigration policy of the pre-Whitlam consensus”.

    “The final solution to the immigration problem, of course, is a popular vote.”

  8. AsleepWhileWalking 9

    Submission deadline for TPPA / ISDS or whatever they call it now.

    From https://mailchi.mp/3d55f13eca4f/stop-the-spread-of-isds-the-trade-for-all-agenda-and-a-hui-in-october?e=cd0f40e640

    “Please make a submission to the select committee before Friday 17 August in support of an amendment to stop the spread of ISDS beyond the current 11 signatories. Already several countries have expressed interest in joining, so Parliament must prevent New Zealand from backsliding deeper into this discredited system by transforming the anti-ISDS policy of the present Government into a binding commitment under domestic law.

    Tell the select committee: “I continue to oppose the TPPA, no matter what it is called, and I support an amendment to stop the spread of ISDS.”

    https://www.parliament.nz/en/pb/sc/make-a-submission/document/52SCFD_SCF_BILL_78569/trans-pacific-partnership-agreement-cptpp-amendment-bill

  9. marty mars 10

    Kia kaha teachers – good luck to all today, stay safe. BEEP BEEP beep beep beeeep!!!

  10. marty mars 11

    This will be trouble I think – hot and bothered trouble.

    “Several more warm years could be on the way, if a new statistical temperature forecasting system turns out to be accurate.

    The system predictsi it’ll be unusually warm from this year until 2022, even without including the impact of climate change.”

    https://i.stuff.co.nz/science/106247117/get-ready-nz-for-a-yearslong-warm-spell

  11. dV 12

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/106213327/woman-fired-after-speaking-out-about-rough-sleeper-assault-at-work

    This woman was badly injured in a pharmacy she worked at by a rough sleeper.

    She talked to the press about her ordeal.

    Then she was FIRED because she was bringing the company into disrepute!!!

    When contacted by phone, Tominari the owner hung up. He and Lo later responded to an email request for comment with the threat of legal action.

    “If you mention any of our details on your news outlet, we will be taking legal action against you and Nikki Denley. (The person attacked)

    Who brought their company into disrepute by NOT supporting their worker.

    I wonder if they should be prosecuted for not providing a safe place to work!!

    • dukeofurl 12.1

      What low life, not supporting an employee.
      I see they thought they could heavy the local newspaper too.
      Thats not going to work.

    • marty mars 12.2

      Yeah I saw that – hopefully the law and the natural justice, of choosing to give business or not to those shops, will prevail.

    • Jimmy 12.3

      I hope she ends up getting a good payout from the Pharmacy for wrongful dismissal as she wouldn’t want to work for them again. The pharmacy will hopefully get a public back lash as well for the way they treated her. Just wrong.

      • dukeofurl 12.3.1

        Older customers are staples of any pharmacys prescription business.
        Just set up a car outside with a few signs in the windows and presto an instant settlement of her medical costs and personal grievance.

      • greywarshark 12.3.2

        From the link:
        The Christchurch woman received a broken finger, post-traumatic stress disorder and later suffered a heart attack. She was dismissed from her job at ….o Pharmacy on Colombo St after she shared her story with Stuff.

        Nikki Denley, who was the retail manager at the store, was working one June day when a large man entered the store a couple hours before closing time.

  12. Tricledrown 13

    Round up maker wheels out same old false science to protect its poison.
    While internal memos admitting rounddup causes cancer and corruption of govt officials tabled at trials.
    Deflecting and Bullying is how they deal with the real science

  13. Kevin 14

    Now that the hysteria has died down a bit. A more balanced take on the Jeremy Corbyn ‘antisemitism’ furore…

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/14/corbyn-wreath-terror-victims-memorial-israel-palestinian

  14. Gosman 15

    Apparently Socialism isn’t about improving the material well being of the poor but their ‘dignity’. Good to know that. I wonder if improved dignity helps with coping with hyperinflation….

    https://venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/13999

    • KJT 15.1

      Paula Bennett giving the poor, the “dignity” of benefit sanctions to force them into McJobs, working better. Eh?

  15. Muttonbird 16

    The trout is now going after Tova O’Brien. What happened to all this bluster from the Nats about the sanctity of the media and how they must not be politically pressured?

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2018/08/a-pathetic-attack-judith-collins-wants-to-know-who-leaked-simon-bridges-expenses.html

    The hypocrisy is strong in the trout.

    • Puckish Rogue 16.1

      Well she (of course) has a point:

      “You guys are great – you come along and ask us who did it when you know who did it,” Ms Collins said when Garner asked if she knew who had leaked the information.

      “I don’t know who did it,” Garner said, to which Ms Collins replied, “Tova does”.

      Garner later asked O’Brien if she knows who leaked the information to her, to which she said “no comment”.

      The media are very important for democracy but they also need to be held to account like anyone else

      • arkie 16.1.1

        The media weren’t given the information by no-one, and they have a right to keep their sources secret. If they have been given information why would they not publish it? The question is who gave it to them, and trying to turn it on the journo’s isn’t a great look ‘for democracy’.

        • Puckish Rogue 16.1.1.1

          The media have a lot of power so they also need their own checks and balances

          • McFlock 16.1.1.1.1

            Which they have.

            Collins almost persuaded me it probably wasn’t her – although she’s ballsy enough to put O’Brien on the spot – and to then make a complaint if it results in her being outed as the source, lol

            • Puckish Rogue 16.1.1.1.1.1

              I still go with human error in this case

              • McFlock

                if everyone in caucus got everyone’s info, how does only Bridges’ stuff accidentally end up with a reporter?

                • Puckish Rogue

                  Thats why I like investigations, we’ll know what happened then

                  • McFlock

                    And they buy time to forget the more optious likelihoods

                    • Puckish Rogue

                      Well more like it’ll (hopefully) stop rumours spreading about what may, or may not, have happened 🙂

                    • McFlock

                      That’ll only happen if someone gets pinged red-handed.

                      I’d like to think whomever it was will have learned from previous instances (just out of general principle), but, well…

                    • Puckish Rogue

                      Thats why I don’t think Jude, who is by all accounts a pretty good lawyer, was involved…or at least it won’t be able to be proven

                    • McFlock

                      never underestimate the power of hubris to be one’s downfall

      • Sabine 16.1.2

        so someone in the National Party has a hard time keeping their mouth shut, and don’t like to fall in line behind a expensive and incompetent leader and it is the media that needs to be held to account.

        bless your cotton socks.

        • Puckish Rogue 16.1.2.1

          Could just as easily be human error as well but you don’t think the media needs to have the spotlight on them every now and then?

          • Sabine 16.1.2.1.1

            of course it is human error. Someone in the National Party erred err went to a journalist and said :oh lookit here, the incompetent, boring as, good for nothing Leader of the No Mates Party has traveled the country for three month, costing over 1000$ a day, racking up 100.000 $ for his three month tax paid vacation while achieving fuck all.

            I can see why you would want to blame the media for reporting this.

            • Puckish Rogue 16.1.2.1.1.1

              Ackshully I want a through investigation done so if someone did leak it they can be punished appropriately

              • Sabine

                yep, lets waste some more taxpayer money because the Party with no Mates can’t keep its own people to behave.

                Vote National, cause someone has to waste Taxpayers Dollars.

              • bwaghorn

                We’re you concerned about leeks when Winstons over payments were leaked.

                • Puckish Rogue

                  I want that thoroughly investigated as well

                  • Sabine

                    bwahahahahahahahahah hahahahahahah

                    • Puckish Rogue

                      Why is that funny to you? I’ve been pretty up front about my belief that things should be investigated and the appropriate punishments meted out, to anyone

                    • Bewildered []

                      Don’t worry about old Sabine it’s her stock response, she seem to think it is funny or a withering insult, yes dear is her other one , Just hold on a little longer the latter won’t be far away, she really is a bore and yawn, with a few anger issues

                  • bwaghorn

                    Fortunately Winstons lawyers are searching the dark heart of national as we speak then a?

                    • Puckish Rogue

                      How exactly is that going, its been a bit quiet don’t you think

                    • Robert Guyton

                      National has a heart ?

                    • Puckish Rogue

                      Don’t know about National but St Jude the Lovely has a massive heart, a heart so full it overflows with all the love and joy anyone could ever want and all you have to do to recieve this love is accept her as your saviour and then you too can walk in the light and love of J.C and all your sins (and there are many Robert) will be washed away and you”l be reborn a better person, a more intelligent person…a National voter

                      Praise the Jude, praise her!

      • Gabby 16.1.3

        How does Big Judee know Tova does puckers?

        • Puckish Rogue 16.1.3.1

          Well Tova broke the story so presumably she knows who passed on the information.

          • McFlock 16.1.3.1.1

            unless it came in an envelope, maybe.

            Really, all a reporter needs to know is “does the source have a good record” and “does the information check out”. The leaker could have a consistent handle rather than be exchanging spreadsheets over lunch.

            • Puckish Rogue 16.1.3.1.1.1

              Well that is a possibility, best be checking any and all CCTVs then 🙂

              • Robert Guyton

                Yes. Jude has a very distinctive gait.

                • OnceWasTim

                  And makeup that even the worst facial recognition teknoljy couldn’t wink the hood off going forward.
                  Now, as for Pulla Bent, that’s a different story. There’s a total re-imaging and re-imagining. I’m wondering whether the gNatz are thinking of an automaton swapout going forward. Soimon out Pulla in. The logic circuits aren’t that different. Swap a NAND for a NOR and Bob’s your auntie

              • McFlock

                could nat paranoia be why all the post boxes are being taken away? lol

    • marty mars 16.2

      Lol she doth protest too loudly (d) methinks next she’ll be wailing, gnashing her teeth and pulling wildly at her hair. Oscar contender for sure.

    • bwaghorn 16.3

      Garner is as thick as two short planks some days . collins played him like a fiddle this morning letting the eye brows spread suspicion in every direction .

  16. marty mars 17

    Who’s singing this song in the gnats today?

    ‘Friends all tried to warn me
    But I held my head up high
    All the time they warned me
    But I only passed them by
    They all tried to tell me
    But I guess I didn’t care
    I turned my back and
    Left them standing there
    All the burning bridges that have fallen after me
    All the lonely feelings and the burning memories
    Everyone I left behind each time I closed the door
    Burning bridges lost forevermore..’

  17. Bill 18

    So, on the one hand we have researchers from the French National Centre for Scientific Research producing a model (paper here) that seems very good at predicting the occurrence of natural cycles that boost or dampen the general upward trend of global temperature.

    As the principal researcher puts it (from The Guardian)-

    “Natural variability is a wriggle around the freight train that is global warming,” he says. “On a human scale, it is what we feel. What we don’t always feel is global warming. As a scientist, this is frightening because we don’t consider it enough. All we can do it give people information and let them make up their own mind.”

    […] Sévellec says the statistical upward nudge from natural variation this year is twice as great of that of long-term global warming. Next year, it is likely to be three times higher.

    There is no “other hand”…

    This is the deal we’ve dealt ourselves.

    Meanwhile, NOAA is throwing around a 70% chance of El Nino* conditions becoming dominant within the coming months

    *La Niña is sometimes referred to as the cold phase of ENSO and El Niño as the warm phase of ENSO

  18. Bearded Git 19

    This is why the Conservatives are scared witless of an election any time soon in the UK-spontaneous Oh Jeremy Corbyn chant a few days ago.

    https://www.thecanary.co/uk/2018/08/14/the-mainstream-media-would-probably-rather-you-didnt-see-this-clip-of-thousands-chanting-for-jeremy-corbyn/

    Bojo and Brexit may conspire to see Corbyn as PM before the end of the year hopefully.

    • KJT 19.1

      Sounds like the “left” wing establishment in the UK are even more terrified.

      End of the cosy tweedledum tweedledee of right wing and less right wing which ensures nothing really changes. And the roll back of a functional society continues.

  19. Ad 20

    President Trump is dumber than a sack of hammers.

    Now that he has put steel and aluminium tariffs on Turkey and as a result tanked their currency, he has also stopped the transfer of 100 F-35 fighter jets.

    Now sure I have no time for Turkey’s autocratic and militant Erdogan, but surely even Trump would understand these actions are going to put Turkey straight into the arms of Iran and Russia?

    I cannot believe that even Trump would willingly seek to get a NATO member to leave and join the opposition.

    Turkey jailed the American pastor, Andrew Brunson, almost two years ago in a widespread crackdown that followed a military coup attempt. Ankara maintains that Brunson, who has lived in Turkey for more than 20 years, had ties to the plotters.

    Cue catastrophic overreaction.

    Trump is just flat stupid.

  20. veutoviper 21

    Yesterday, Tues 14 August, the PM faced three questions rather than the normal one only usually from Simon Bridges, the Leader of the Opposition, namely:

    Q1 Hon SIMON BRIDGES to the Prime Minister: Does she stand by all her Government’s statements and actions?

    Q7 Hon PAULA BENNETT to the Prime Minister: Does her Government expect high standards from all Government departments and Ministers?

    Q8 DAVID SEYMOUR to the Prime Minister: Is she aware of any Ministers in her Cabinet that support reducing the number of members of Parliament and removing the Māori seats; if so, who are those Ministers?

    Today, Wednesday, 15 August, she again faces the same two questions from Bridges and Bennett – this time at Q2 and Q8 respectively.

    IMO Bridges’ performance yesterday was pretty lacklustre as usual, and again his supplementary questions focused on the rights (or not) of union people to go into businesses to see union members as his questions last week did in relation to changes to employment law currently before the House. However, he did in fact actually manage one ad lib question as a result of a question raised by Winston Peters re police officers in hot pursuit of murderers:
    https://www.parliament.nz/en/watch-parliament/ondemand?itemId=202100 (7 mins)

    Bennett’s supplementary questions yesterday focused on the inquiry into the appointment of the Deputy Commisioner of Police. Much as I am no fan of Bennett, her performance was professional and measured, with well thought out questions – eg on the TORs for the inquiry, whether the PM had confidence in Haumaha, and if she would not or could not express confidence in him, whether he should be stood down temporarily while the inquiry was carried out. There was no extravagant faces or waving hands etc. Bridges watched from alongside Bennett.
    https://www.parliament.nz/en/watch-parliament/ondemand?itemId=202108

    But then less than half an hour later, Bennett put on the performance of her life as second speaker in the debate on the Appropriations (2018/19) Estimates Bill!

    As I reported in this comment at 4.1.1.1.2.3 on OM yesterday, it was an absolute hoot – and I could not decide whether it was aimed at “I want to be Leader of the Opposition” or whether she is hoping for an Oscar!

    The posing and confidence is OTT. LOL. Smacking the hands, hammering, counting off on her fingers, hands on hips – shes did it all. It smacks of some form of recent (theatrical) training. Its worth watching with or without sound! In fact without sound is best. ROFL.

    I intended putting up the link last night but was otherwise occupied but marty mars’ comment at 16.2 above reminded me. Sorry marty mars, Collins would be hard pressed to beat this performance by Bennett. Well worth the few minutes it takes to watch it.

    https://www.parliament.nz/en/watch-parliament/ondemand?itemId=202114

    Quite looking forward to seeing how she (and Bridges) perform again today.

    • Janice 21.1

      Thanks for that tip to watch with no sound, best laugh I have had for a while. I wonder how much training and learning she had to go through for that. Pity her party’s benches were so empty when she put on such an audition for leader. She seemed to have two lots of notes, one for speech and one for gestures, because she appeared to have lost her place at one point and kept thumping her fist into her hand while she frantically turned over pages.

      • veutoviper 21.1.1

        I am pleased you enjoyed it too. LOL. And welcome as I don’t recall seeing you comment here before,

  21. Pat 22

    “Because Don Brash is not an abstraction. He is, to the consternation of many, very real. At least one of your grandparents probably voted for him to be the Prime Minister of our country. (Ed’s note: Grandparents? It was only 2005! And National got 39.1%, only a feather’s width behind Labour on 41.1%, so it may have been several family members)”

    https://www.pundit.co.nz/content/is-don-brash-really-different-from-those-canadians

    Ouch!

  22. Fireblade 23

    What a shocker. Calling a woman a crazed crying lowlife dog on twitter is a new low for the orange orangutan.

    Donald J. Trump
    @ realDonaldTrump 14h
    When you give a crazed, crying lowlife a break, and give her a job at the White House, I guess it just didn’t work out. Good work by General Kelly for quickly firing that dog!

    • Sabine 23.1

      why would anyone be shocked?

      Was that not the reason all those people with economic anxiety voted for him?

    • Andre 23.2

      It’s just part of the show.

      “Though the explosive fight between these two heels may have a nugget of genuine, reciprocal anger and betrayal in the center, the cautious money is that it is almost entirely boob-bait for the easily gulled Trumpentariat, mere mummery and distraction from the widening gyre of legal, political, and economic trouble looming for the star of our national reality TV show.

      This week’s episode consists of the usual kayfabe, with secret recordings, presidential shitter-tweeted rage, and the apparatus of the president’s media sycophants turning their fire on another of Donald’s once-beloved now-reviled ex-besties.”

      https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-is-in-such-deep-sht-omarosa-is-almost-a-relief?ref=home

  23. greywarshark 24

    The Lord giveth and the Lord chooses to take away.
    Waikato University started Maori tikanga as a separate study but now wants to merge it. More efficient no doubt. Better productivity. Students say it is unique.

    2/12/2014 Actors pakeha ex PM Nat Jim Bolger and pakeha Prof [Neil] Quigley who has worldwide credentials so must be good, “to formulate and implement meaningful strategies to lift organisational performance.”” Where do old National Party politicians go to die? In elephants graveyeards? Is that what our universities are becoming,
    where humans take second place to Science. Maori to go Humanities to go. People are so boring and unprofitable unless they are on sweatshop handouts.

    University of Waikato Chancellor Rt Hon Jim Bolger says Professor Quigley has a real passion and enthusiasm for his work. “He’s held many senior roles at Victoria University and comes to us with an impressive track-record of academic and strategic leadership, and ability to formulate and implement meaningful strategies to lift organisational performance.”

    Mr Bolger says Professor Quigley is well-placed to continue to build on the University of Waikato’s strong foundations. “We intend our next 50 years to cement the University of Waikato as a force in the region, the tertiary sector and the nation. Professor Quigley understands all the challenges facing the higher education sector and he will be a vital part of our future.”…

    He holds several board and expert advisory group memberships; in particular he is a Director of the Reserve Bank of New Zealand and also a Director of the New Zealand Qualifications Authority….

    “I see even more potential for the University to develop its distinctive combination of partnership with iwi, commitment to an outstanding student experience, and excellence in teaching and research.”
    https://www.waikato.ac.nz/news-events/media/2014/new-vice-chancellor-to-take-the-reins-at-university-of-waikato

    te ao Maori
    Waikato University staff, students protest plan to scrap Māori faculty
    From Morning Report, 8:43 am today
    Listen duration 3′ :21″
    Students and staff at the University of Waikato are calling a proposal to scrap the Faculty of Māori and Indigenous Studies a “white-streaming” of Māori issues. More than 80 people gathered in a peaceful protest yesterday over a re-structure which will see the faculty lose its status and fall under the Arts and Social Sciences division.
    https://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/2018658160/waikato-university-staff-students-protest-plan-to-scrap-maori-faculty

  24. cleangreen 25

    Using just a blood test to find evidence of chemical exposure is a false test and the chemicals can leave the blood within a little as 10 days to two weeks so no trace is then found as it has been stored in our (fat) ‘adipose’ tissues.

    The adipose chemical analysis is the gold standard for ‘toxic tort’ chemical litigation; – and a blood test will fail to find the toxins the patient was exposed to.

    https://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/2018658159/toxic-foam-officials-back-down-allow-blood-testing

    Radio New Zealand
    RNZ

    HEALTH 8:20 am today
    Toxic foam: Officials back down, allow blood testing
    From Morning Report, 8:20 am today
    Share this
    “Community pressure has pushed officials into a backdown on blood testing for people caught up in the firefighting foam contamination in Manawatu. Not only will locals get easier access to testing for the chemicals PFOS and PFOA but now their blood will be stored if they give the OK, to enable long-term research.”

    This is a false test that will show little toxins in any blood test.

    I was poisoned also in Canada and to prove the same chemicals were in my body they first did a blood test which showed no poisoning of the same chemical in my blood.

    Then two toxoclogists recommended to my Doctor to get “a tisue sample test for this chemical and they took a small square piece of my adipose fat tissue around my thigh and the chemicl that I was poiisoned with was found to be stored in my fat tissues and not in my blood as most chemicals leave the blood within 14 days to six weeks the toxicologists said so this ‘blood test’ will be a meaningless waste of time and hope.

    I recomend that these folks all ask for a ‘adipose tissue’ (fat) chemical analysis done at “Accucem Laboratory in Texas the same laboratory that proved my chemical poisoning had occurred.

    https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00216-004-2558-5

    Abstract
    “Test systems to screen for estrogenicity and appropriate biomarkers of human exposure are required for epidemiological studies of endocrine disruption. We addressed these issues by developing and standardising a method to assess the total estrogenic xenobiotic burden in human adipose tissue. In this study, which is the continuation of a previous work, we have improved the protocol for extensive fractionation of a higher number of tissue samples in order to investigate bioaccumulated xenoestrogens that are candidates for estrogenicity and to assess their combined estrogenic effect. This was achieved by extensive HPLC separation of xenoestrogens from endogenous hormones followed by testing of individual fractions in the E-Screen test for estrogenicity. Organochlorine pesticides, PCBs and halogenated bisphenols and alkylphenols were collected in the most lipophilic fractions, followed by progestins, androgens and estradiol esters, and then by steroidal estrogens; phyto- and myco-estrogens were collected around the end of the run. These results were confirmed by exhaustive chemical analysis. In 458 human adipose tissue samples, the total effective xenoestrogen burden was positive in 75% of samples in the pooled fraction that contained organohalogenated xenoestrogens (mean 515.3 pM Eeq/g lipid; range 0–14.5 nM) and in 82% of samples in the pooled fraction where natural estrogens eluted (mean 696.6 pM Eeq/g lipid; range 0–12.9 nM). Organochlorine pesticides emerged as candidate chemicals for the estrogenicity of the first pooled fraction, because DDT and derivatives were present in 98.3% of the samples. However, no correlation was found between the concentration of any single chemical and the estrogenicity determined in the bioassay. There may be several reasons for this lack of concordance: (i) the estrogenic effects depicted in the E-Screen bioassay are a consequence of the combined effect of several organohalogens or (ii) the proliferative effect is due to other chemicals not measured. Because additive, synergistic or antagonistic mechanisms may account for the final effect observed in the pooled fractions, the approach proposed in this work is more appropriate for exposure assessment in epidemiological studies than the determination of individual chemicals in human samples.”

  25. eco maori 26

    Good morning Newshub The professor John is correct we need to slow down OUR alcohol consumption down teach te mokopuna’s that its ok to have a couple of drinks and that its stupid to have 12 drinks this will save a lot of lives and mone .
    Many thank’s to the Government for passing a law making it so only Kiwi’s can buy houses or property the stats are not showing the true foreign amout of foreign buy’s%
    also tangata whenua would be exclude from buying house’s in 20 years if there were no changes . This law change is part on national security Big mone could shut most Kiwi’s out of the market they pay more for the property than Kiwi farmers can earn from the property to service a mortgage viably even with capital gain’s include in the math Many Thanks to OUR government .
    I’m staying out of the teacher’s debate .
    Getting ride of single use plastic bag’s is just the start of OUR movement to a environmentally sustainable Aotearoa and Papatuanuku we have to change OUR whole way of thinking and life . Ka kite ano .

  26. eco maori 27

    This is amazes me we have all the evangelicals that hold onto there bible’s and they back a society systems that doesn’t care for all the people in there society .
    The wealthy have impunity they can basically do what ever break laws and use the mountains of money to get off crimes and bend the laws of the land to give them more money .Im sure that there Bibles have scripts that say that that behavior is a sin in the bibles values .They think its ok to have people dying on the streets or being killed by armies around the world . Eco Maori tau toko
    Elizabeth Warren, the Massachusetts senator tiped Democratic presidential candidate in 2020, has unveiled new plans for legislation aimed at reining in big corporations, redistributing wealth, and giving workers and local communities a bigger say. The link is below

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/15/elizabeth-warren-accountable-capitalism-act-richest-companies Ka kite ano

  27. eco maori 28

    I dissagree with this person’s distraction on the real issue’s of human obesity he is most likely payed from someone who is part of the sugar industry for his distorted reality. So be it that’s the way of Papatuanuku at the minute .
    The Big Picture is that sugar is the main cause of OUR obesity problems full stop .
    Look at all the negative storys on salt about it beening bad for heart problem’s.
    The thing about the salt industry is 2 to 3 company’s can not take control of salt why because we can just get seawater evaporate the water and walar we have salt and because of this fact we get to hear all the true facts about salt .
    With the sugar industry 2 to 3 players control the product and control the fact’s and story’s that get published about sugar its a bad product that should be taxed out of reach of the common poor tangata of Papatuanuku link below ka kite ano
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/15/age-of-obesity-shaming-overweight-people

    We’re in a new age of obesity. How did it happen? You’d be surprised
    George Monbiot
    George Monbiot P.S Its about how easy it is to consume 2200 calories now with all the sugar in our food and drinks compared to yesteryear’s

  28. eco maori 29

    Look’s like the Judges hand out warrants to the{ undercover sandfly YEA RIGHT ] at there wim I just sent a email to the ceo of the Rotorua hosptial and got 1 phone call and nothing I will forward my complaint to the Health & Disability Commissioner and Eco Maori will see how second class people are treated in New Zealand this will all go towards my Waitangi Tribunal court case thank you sandflys for more evidance muppets
    Ka kite ano P.S mean while my moko is still in pain I just want the Rotorua Hosptial to do there Job and scan her kidneys

  29. eco maori 30

    A link to back up my claims of warrents being handed out to cover there m8 ass the 00.1 % and the sandflys link below Ka kite ano

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/106019115/jonathan-milne-why-this-gagging-order-is-a-bridge-too-far Ana to kai

  30. eco maori 31

    More links about the 00.1 % making the laws to protect them first and for most’s
    Link Below Ka kite ano

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/105975362/law-society-superinjunction-overturned-allowing-disclosure-of-sexual-harassment-case ana to kai

  31. eco maori 32

    Good evening Newshub I agree that the government and Opposition party should work together to fix our construction industry .
    Wow some people have know morels or respect of our old people the assault of people in rest homes is shocking .
    Lets hope we don’t get a bad fire season like what our Australian cousin are fighting at the minute hope no people are lost .
    That was a good out come for the Whale in Chilly it got cut free of the ropes that were tangled in free willy from Chilly was it there Navy diver’s that did that great job ka pai.
    Eco say’s that all the Navy’s and armed forces around Papatuanuku should be turned into conservationist and humanitarian work.
    Ka kite ano P.S I try to keep my difficulties with the undercover sandfly’s tone down but this has been brewing all day

  32. eco maori 33

    The Crowd Goes Wild James & Makere That’s awesome that Steven Adam’s has a charity that looks after alot of mokopuna’s sports future aspirations Ka pai.
    That’s cool wahine Rugby the fastest growing sport on Papatuanuku
    Wairangi that was cool you and Steven playing basketball with the mokopuna’s
    sports is good for there wairua .
    P.S I thought Mark & Mull’s were going to start wrestling lol

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