Open mike 17/11/2010

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  1. Tigger 1
    17 November 2010 at 7:53 am

    Rodney Hide is having a baby. But as to whether there will be more “He said he and Ms Crome would like more children but that was “up to God””

    WTF? So it’s an Immaculet Conception? Or he thinks he’s a deity?

  2. D14 2
    17 November 2010 at 7:53 am

    A few weeks ago an indian overstayer couple were going to be deported to India with their NZ children.
    Does any one know what happened?

    • Pascal's bookie 2.1
      17 November 2010 at 8:13 am

      This is the latest article I could find (2/11/10)…

      Back to jail for month for man facing deportation

      Hastings man Sital Ram, who is facing deportation to India, has been sent back to jail for another 30 days.

      He and his wife Usha Rani are overstayers, and are waiting for a deportation decision by the Immigration Minister.

      The couple have three New Zealand-born children, an 8-year-old girl and twin boys, 6, who are eligible to stay.

      Mr Ram has been in prison since September, and was committed to another 30 days at a hearing in Napier District Court last week.

      Family friend Julie O’Shea said the family were disappointed but had expected the decision.

      She said the children had only been able to visit their father in prison once, and supporters were trying to arrange another visit.

      Lawyer Jean Paul Delamere said Mr Ram had asked Immigration New Zealand whether bail would be reconsidered if he agreed to sign travel documents to India.

      • D14 2.1.1
        17 November 2010 at 8:47 am

        Thanks. That article was on the 2 Nov. So 30 days would take it to early Dec for the next step in the process.

    • Nomad 2.2
      17 November 2010 at 9:24 am

      Associate Minister of Immigration, Hon Kate Wilkinson denied the Ram’s clemency – in spite of the The Convention on the Rights of the Child requires that:

      In all actions concerning children, whether undertaken by public or private social welfare institutions, courts of law, administrative authorities or legislative bodies, the best interests of the child shall be a primary consideration.

  3. freedom 3
    17 November 2010 at 8:25 am

    the future of airtravel for ‘private citizens’ is looking
    bleaker by the day.

    So now if you don’t want the TSA to take a photo-realistic scanner image of your three year olds genetalia they can have [highschool dropouts who had minimal security checks] sticking there hands down your child’s pants instead

    this is on top of the recent inclusion of Pilots receiving the “Enhanced Pat Down Procedure’
    (which is now under review as pilots are causing more than a little stink about it)

    this has nothing to do with security and is only about ramping up the Police State conditioning

  4. freedom 4
    17 November 2010 at 8:39 am

    why does the http: prefix keep getting dropped when putting in links?

    anyway, here are the links from above, these stories are everywhere, this is our reality

    http://www.infowars.com/tsa-now-putting-hands-down-fliers-pants/
    http://www.infowars.com/flashback-tsa-goon-molests-3-year-old/
    http://www.infowars.com/tsa-caves-on-molesting-pilots/

  5. freedom 5
    17 November 2010 at 9:03 am

    ? why is my comment awaiting moderation , it contained nothing offensive, threatening or questionable on any level?

    • Bunji 5.1
      17 November 2010 at 9:14 am

      Dunno, approved now…

    • felix 5.2
      17 November 2010 at 9:20 am

      More than two links, perhaps.

      • freedom 5.2.1
        17 November 2010 at 9:53 am

        i would understand that, except it was the single link comment that was moderated.

        • lprent 5.2.1.1
          17 November 2010 at 10:10 am

          It allows up to about 10 links so that isn’t the problem.

          Just happens according to the logic of the anti-spam. Basically you’re getting evaluated against the logic of everyone who uses Akismet worldwide – in other words almost everyone who uses WordPress. We all feed the system with spam (stuff that made it through) / ham (stuff that got trapped as a false positive). The cumulative stats amend the rules.

          It is incredibly accurate. But generally the more links you have, the more likely it is to find one has been spammed by many people before. Same with certain words or phrases.

          • grumpy 5.2.1.1.1
            17 November 2010 at 10:30 am

            Always thought it’s a poor day when you don’t learn something new.

            My comments seem to be hanging in the netherworld for about 8 minutes, this seems a bit harsh. Any reason?

          • freedom 5.2.1.1.2
            17 November 2010 at 11:09 am

            I just find it interesting how ‘statistically’ dangerous the sharing of certain information has become. If i understood correctly… the Akismet System’s AntiSpam target is based on origin and frequency of content associated with ‘verified spam’

            So it is only statistically targeting articles on Transport Safety Authority measures, yet not flagging Royal Wedding articles?

            That strikes me as somewhat illogical. A spammer or virus operator, whose main function is to attain commercial or other more nefarious goals, uses high volume articles to maximise the opportunities for exposure and the more popular the item the better opportunity for success.

            Of these two subjects A Royal Wedding is certainly more likely to be the target of a spam operator, or the issue of TSA procedures in America is growing massively as a news story, thus causng more interest from spam operators.

            There is another explanation. Independent news sites experience statistically anamolous spam on a regular basis, usually made up of disinfobots and trollmachines. A win-win then for the Co-Intel crowd. Send out the spambots to clog the site, which triggers an anti-spam blockade on links. So simple, it is a wonder it isn’t done more often…….

            capcha: authorities roflmao

            • lprent 5.2.1.1.2.1
              17 November 2010 at 12:16 pm

              Nope. It is based on hundreds of thousands of sites dropping a message into spam or pulling it out of spam.

              Usually it isn’t the link that is the issue. It will be the domain that the link comes from and the text around it. For instance we have only two trackbacks in span right now – but it will give you an idea.

              “UK couple’s relatives shocked at murder » MURDERBristol, Bristol24-7Ronni, relativesCentral, BlenderRelated, BlogPaltrow, generatedRelated, couplesLodges, Independent » JaymesLine”
              “Web political ads must disclose funding » FundingChicago, StandardCUSA, latestinternetmarketingRelated, workingcareersMaking, discloseHouse, generatedRelated » JaymesLine”

              As you can see they try that association

              Both from the same site. So they will be confirmed by me. Anything else from that site or its current IP or with those tags will be regarded with a very slightly heightened suspicion by all wordpress sites.

              Whenever we rescue one of your comments from spam, then you, your IP, the sites you link to, and the tags in your text will be regarded with slightly less suspicion.

              I suspect that the level of ‘respect’ for this sites operating practices is also measured against other sites to give a weight to our decisions as well compared to other sites. Sites that bin everything have little respect, and so do sites that don’t do much. The weighting will be towards the sites that contribute.

              That is pretty much how the net has been dealing with spam(of various types) forever. I use very similar systems to kill the 80-90% of mail through my mail servers that is spam. It isn’t quite as bad here. There are 218 thousand comments here, and about 100k spam comments, trackbacks and pings killed. That is from just over 3 years of operation. We see the spam that is a few percent of the total and make judgement on that.

              The trick generally is not to piss off system operators – but everyone knows that already – don’t they? 😈

              • freedom …
                17 November 2010 at 12:42 pm

                thankyou,
                as a non-IT person this is really interesting, educational and reasonably confusing.
                I was wondering if showing the trackback for The Atlantic Media Group Article i linked to above, would help identify news sites to avoid linking to in the future?

                but as i am not quite seeing the mechanism,
                and you have better things to do with your day,
                is there a good ‘spam for dummies’ site to learn a bit more at?

  6. Lats 6
    17 November 2010 at 9:08 am

    Election 2011 Predictions – is National in Trouble?

    An analysis from my mate Eric Crampton at the University of Canterbury suggests Labour ought to be cozying up to the Maori Party in order to win support following next years election. Full text below, or for the original go here: http://offsettingbehaviour.blogspot.com/

    Wednesday, November 17, 2010
    2011 predictions

    iPredict’s vote share markets ought to be scaring National.

    There are eight potential states of the world, sorted by whether ACT, New Zealand First, and United Future make it back into Parliament. iPredict has contracts on each, assuming that the very most likely route into Parliament for them is winning a seat – no chance any crosses the 5% threshold. Here’s some first cut analysis, based on the highly dubious assumption of independence across contracts that lets me ignore covariance, and based on simple rounding rather than using the quota system for list allocation.

    The most likely state of the world, 26.7% by current prices, sees ACT returned but neither United Future nor New Zealand First. In that state of the world, National and ACT together see 60 seats, based on current prices. But the Maori Party gets 5 seats (overhang of one – expected outcome given prices on contracts in the Maori Seat markets). So even in that favourable state of the world for National, the Maori Party could give the government to a Labour/Green alliance (56 seats plus 5).

    Next most likely has none of the minor parties return: 21.2% In this case, National at 58 seats ties Green + Labour; again, Maori makes the government.

    There’s a 12.4% chance that ACT and UF make it in but not NZ First. National’s coalition, assuming UF stays with National, makes 60 seats to Labour/Green’s 55. Maori could induce a tie, but that seems pretty unlikely. This is the best state of the world for National.

    Next, an 11.4% chance of ACT and NZ First without UF. National plus ACT total 58; Labour plus Green 54, NZ First gets 4 and Maori 5. I’d guess National most likely to form government here as the alternative would require NZ First and Maori to side with Labour/Green.

    Next most likely: a 9.8% chance that only UF makes it in. National and UF get 59 seats; Labour/Green 58. Maori Party chooses the government.

    Next: a 9% chance that only NZ First makes it in – worst state of the world for National, who get 56 seats to the Labour/Green 55. NZ First could ensure a National government with 5 seats, but I’d expect them to be more likely to go with Labour; they couldn’t push Labour over the line on their own. So Maori chooses the government.

    Then, a 5% chance that all the minor parties survive. National’s coalition gets 58 to 54 for Labour/Green. Either Maori or NZ First could make a National government, but it would take both together to make a Labour government.

    Finally, a 4.2% chance that UF and NZ First survive while ACT doesn’t. National and UF get 57 seats; Labour/Green 55. Maori or NZ First could give the government to National; both would be needed to make a Labour government.

    The market says there’s a 78% chance of a National Prime Minister following the next election; this requires that Maori stay onside with National if the vote share markets are to be trusted. I’m always a bit nervous about relying on results from the vote share markets – they have very flat payoff curves and don’t pay out for about a year.

    But the bottom line seems to be that the Maori Party will likely choose the next government; consequently, whichever party forms government, the Coastal Coalition folks will be upset.

    Note that these numbers are based on odds from iPredict, a “betting” website which runs books on a whole range of things apparently. It’s not my thing, but Eric spend a bit of time analysing their odds for statistical purposes.

    • felix 6.1
      17 November 2010 at 9:33 am

      Interesting, but this:

      …assuming that the very most likely route into Parliament for them is winning a seat – no chance any crosses the 5% threshold.

      flies in the face of reality regarding NZ First for a couple of reasons:

      1. They came very close to the threshold last election (4.?), much closer than the other two could hope to get in their dreams. And that was after a year or more of scandal and negative attention.

      2. Unlike the other two, they don’t have a seat they could be seriously expected to win.

      Their situation is quite different to the other two parties and the complete opposite of the initial assumption; NZ First’s most likely route to parliament is to cross the threshold.

      But Eric has never been known to let reality interfere with his assumptions.

      • Eric Crampton 6.1.1
        17 November 2010 at 9:49 am

        The odds on NZ First come from the contract paying out if Winston re-enters Parliament. If we take that as being due to NZ First passing the threshold rather than due to Winston or Laws taking a seat, then NZ First gets more seats in all states of the world in which they receive any seats. If you want the spreadsheet to play with it yourself, send me an email.

        It was laziness rather than anything else that drove my assumptions, and I think I was pretty clear about that when I said “Here’s some first cut analysis, based on the highly dubious assumption of independence across contracts that lets me ignore covariance, and based on simple rounding rather than using the quota system for list allocation.”

      • lprent 6.1.2
        17 November 2010 at 10:21 am

        NZ First’s most likely route to parliament is to cross the threshold.

        I suspect that they have a pretty good chance of it happening. There have been quite a few people I’ve talked to (rather elderly mostly) that seem to be swinging back around to supporting NZF as best expressing their interests and viewpoints. They mostly didn’t vote for NZF last election because of all of the heat generated by the ACT’s lynch party but have previously. They now think those accusations were complete bullshit.

        That is what I was worried would happen. Because the idiots in Act, the sewer and associated reflectors, and the MSM tried to knock out Winston with a short-cut and didn’t do it in a fair manner, they’re going to inflict him and his ridiculous party on us for a few more elections

        • Eric Crampton 6.1.2.1
          17 November 2010 at 10:31 am

          Would you reckon that Labour could again go into coalition with New Zealand First? Suppose that the first two list places are Peters and Laws. And maybe the Sensible Sentencing Trust has bought a third place position in NZ First.

          • lprent 6.1.2.1.1
            17 November 2010 at 11:48 am

            Politics is the art of the possible. The possible is defined by the number of seats of various blocks inside parliament to get a working majority. If NZF gets in then they represent a significant proportion of the voting population. It is pretty likely that not having a support agreement with them would not be viewed as being sufficient by the voters to force a new election (after all we all have those elderly in our lives).

            If NZF was required by either National or Labour to get a working majority, then I’d expect that the politics would require that to happen. I wouldn’t be happy with it (I wasn’t last time – I wish the greens would actually get the votes on the day as they pre-poll), but it is the wish of the voting population as expressed in their votes. I wouldn’t gainsay that.

            …the Sensible Sentencing Trust has bought a third place position in NZ First.

            That didn’t seem to have stopped National from forming a coalition with Act you notice.

            • Eric Crampton 6.1.2.1.1.1
              17 November 2010 at 11:59 am

              Of course on the last bit; I’d expect it to be a bigger negative to Labour than to National, so it’s why I suggested it.

              So your preference ordering is then (Labour govt with Winston) > (National govt without Winston). Pretty much any configuration with NZ First in it drops to the bottom of my preference ordering.

          • prism 6.1.2.1.2
            17 November 2010 at 11:48 am

            Ewwwhh to that idea. Ghastly – and unworkable. Labour needs more than pop-up toys bouncing up and squeaking from their seats in parliament. A grouping as suggested might get Labour in and National out but we would have another parliament that just creaked on with time taken up on trivia instead of solid practical thought about theories and visions and then action.

            • Lanthanide 6.1.2.1.2.1
              17 November 2010 at 11:56 am

              Sounds like an argument for FPP.

              • prism …
                17 November 2010 at 12:14 pm

                Lanthanide are you thinking that MMP gets embroiled in trivia and FPP doesn’t? I think there would be many instances of farce and time-wasting before MMP came along. With MMP charismatic charlatans do get a better chance for their day in the sun than if they were back-benchers or even ministers under party rule. But I wouldn’t trade MMP for FPP and don’t like any other pref vote better. MMP needs a tweak though to make it start well on a cold morning.

                • Lats …
                  17 November 2010 at 12:38 pm

                  I think what Lanth was saying is that you are much more likely under MMP to be in a position where coalition/support deals become necessary than under FFP. MMP can make for some strange bedfellows in the grab for power post election. Having said that I still favour it over FPP.

    • Jenny 6.2
      17 November 2010 at 10:04 am

      In the latest news Maori Party MP Hone Harawira is backing left wing union leader Matt McCarten’s campaign in Mana.

      Stuff.co.nz:

      Harawira backs McCarten for Mana

      Straddling the left/right divide, Maori Party Co-leader Tariana Turia has endorsed both McCarten and National Party candidate Hekia Parata.

      It is anyone’s guess on which side the Maori Party leadership will come down. If we don’t want another term of a National led administration, it behoves the Labour Party to abandon sectarianism and do as much as possible to bring the Maori Party to come down from their fence sitting to the left, of the left/right divide.

      • Draco T Bastard 6.2.1
        17 November 2010 at 11:31 am

        The Maori Party, according to their actions since the last election, is obviously of the right though. I really don’t think there’s anything that the Labour Party could do to change that.

        • Jenny 6.2.1.1
          17 November 2010 at 1:52 pm

          J.

          it behoves the Labour Party to abandon sectarianism and do as much as possible to bring the Maori Party to come down from their fence sitting, to the left of the left/right divide.

          DTB

          I really don’t think there’s anything that the Labour Party could do to change that.

          Personally DTB, I could think of a lot of things “that the Labour party (and their supporters) could do to change that.”

          If you have any dispute with any of them, let’s see your reply. I am fully prepared to go over each of them with you, clause by clause, line by line if necessary.

          1/ Labour could reverse their right wing support for the confiscation of the Seabed and Foreshore on behalf of big business.

          2/ Instead of being cheerleaders for the para-military attack on Tuhoe. Labour could distance themselves from Urewera Terror frame up, either by demanding that the crown drop the charges, or demanding that these charges along with the crown evidence (if any) be presented at the local district court which would actually be more befitting the petty nature of the actual offences alleged. (I imagine if this was done, most of the charges would have to be dropped anyway.)

          3/ Labour could apologise to Maori for their refusal to endorse the United Nations mandate on the Rights for Indigenous peoples.

          4/ Labour could retreat from their sectarian approach to the Maori Party and apologise for insulting the Maori Party as “Haters and wreckers”. Extreme language that Labour leaders have never used to deride either National or ACT or any other party in parliament, seeming to have reserved this sort of aggressive and insulting slur only for the Maori Party.

          5/ Labour could announce that they are totally abandoning the whole failed Neo-liberal approach to economics, which of all sections of society has hit Maori particularly hard. And instead announce that the Labour Party is prepared to work with all those who are prepared to join them in overturning neo-liberalism, and building a fairer society.

          6/ Labour policy makers should admit, even if it is just to themselves, that the creation of the Maori Party was originally a split to the left of the Labour Party.

          7/ Left Labour activists and supporters need to wake up to the fact if they don’t lobby their leadership to at least make an offer of friendship to the Maori Party they will be allowing the conservative elements in the Labour Party to hand the next election to the Nats.

          capcha – consequence

  7. Gina 7
    17 November 2010 at 9:23 am

    Government Progresses Bills With House Under Urgency. The Courts and Criminal Matters Bill passed its second reading by 110 votes to 8 with the Greens opposing.
    The first reading debate of the Māori Purposes Bill was interrupted when the House rose at 10pm.
    It will resume tomorrow at 9am.

    The NZ Labour Party are worse than the Democrats in the US. Pathetic is all I can say. You may as well be the National Party. What hope is there for this country I wonder.

    It really is time for a real left wing workers party to fill the gap. I wonder if changing Labours
    leadership would help.

    Seeing the way you are voting on these issues is not an incentive for me to vote for you. Are these your real values or are you scared of the media and what big business will do to you at election time? If these are Labour party principles then you are no longer the labour party but a bunch of media and corporate colaborators.

    • Draco T Bastard 7.1
      17 November 2010 at 11:35 am

      I wonder if changing Labours leadership would help.

      I think changing their name to Liberals, the other party of business would help more. It would at least show that Labour are no longer the party for the many.

    • just saying 7.2
      17 November 2010 at 12:15 pm

      God(dess) help us. The SS bill is coming up soon too!

      Excuse my ignorance, but what is the Maori Purposes bill?

      A change of leadership could only be an improvement, (if not a solution).
      TARAL!

      No sign of that change NZLP…….

    • mickysavage 7.3
      17 November 2010 at 9:20 pm

      The CCMB has been around for at least two years and has been through the select committee process. It is not in the same league as some of the other stuff that this Government has been doing.

  8. Jenny 8
    17 November 2010 at 9:30 am

    They say that those who can frame the argument ‘win the argument’.

    Connor English the Chief Executive of Federated Farmers is trying to frame the argument in a right wing way that benefits the rich and privileged, to the detriment of the poor and the environment.

    The Farmers Federation Chief has launched a public attack on the left and the protest movement resorting to simplistic right wing rhetoric reminiscent of the Tea Party of the US.

    Conner English publicly criticised protesters opposed to the unsustainable rape of the environment by mining and agribusiness, combining this, with an attack on those seeking pay justice for teachers, or union rights for actors.

    English’s argument boils down to one simple premise:

    ….those who want decent wages and conditions (for teachers actors and other workers) must trade this off with maximum exploitation of nature and the environment by big business.

    Though slyly framed, Connor English’s argument attacking both types of protest reveals that in truth he favours maximum exploitation of both, workers and the environment, and is opposed to any protest that challenges his corporate agenda.

    There is no free lunch

    watching 4 recent protests in Auckland. The first against just the idea of doing a stock take on the minerals that we have. Secondly the idea that a movie might be made in New Zealand on different terms than in some other countries. Thirdly marching for more pay for teachers, and finally, against New Zealand produced food.

    if you are marching for “more pay from government” then you should not also be marching against investigating our mineral potential, our creative film sector or indeed our food sector.

    The claim is that there is not enough wealth (money) to go round unless big agri-business or mining companies are free to exploit human and natural resources to their limits, (and beyond them), is an emotive and simplistic framing of the argument that leaves out such embarrassing facts as the extreme inequality in the sharing out of the wealth of this country.

    As the Greens like to say: “there is enough for our need but not for our greed”.

    Connor English is a well paid advocate for those whose personal greed comes above all else.

    Connor English in his diatribe mentions the debt crisis, but nowhere does he mention the excessive profit taking by the banks and finance companies that has made getting a house on an average wage an impossibility without going into risky debt.

    Connor English in his attack on those seeking fairer wages or protection for the environment accuses them of seeking a free lunch.

    But if you are the manager of Telecom, or you are a rich investor in South Canturbury Finance, or the head of big film production company, or the overpaid president of the Feds. you are enjoying a ‘Free Lunch’ at the expense of the rest of us.

    Connor English in his attack on the left wants such privileged people to be able to continue to enjoy their free lunch indefinitely, no matter how much damage to society or the natural environment thier continuing ‘Free Lunch’ leaves in it’s wake.

    Maybe I should thank Connor English for opening up this debate so that a lot more people are moved to counter this simplistically slanted rubbish.

    capcha – “whoever”

    • KJT 8.1
      17 November 2010 at 12:05 pm

      Ask Conner English how many of his members pay tax?

    • prism 8.2
      17 November 2010 at 12:53 pm

      Suits the farmers lobby to run down or close established businesses because of laws and measures introduced to advance themselves. Then when they are the only game in town they can look down on us all from their high horses or quadbikes and say “You don’t know how lucky you are, you bludgers in the towns living off our hard work.”

      And this attitude often advances to – “You pasty ivory-tower academics who sit around thinking and discussing not doing real work (sounds similar to discussion on fascism seen on this site recently), you dross who have never had a job, you plodders who haven’t a brain to bless yourselves with, you lazy single parents who only know how to whore and want us to pay for your children etc etc.” It’s all there not buried very far under the surface, and shows it’s ugly face from time to time hinted at in Conor English’s piece but its only the tip of the iceberg from the malignant and focussed minority who would stir up prejudice of this type if the occasion arose. And they will come into town and bash you with their batons if times get tough and desperation mounts. Just like they did before.

  9. freedom 9
    17 November 2010 at 9:47 am

    The Courts and Criminal Matters Bill races towards law with an unvalidated haste, with barely a discssion and certainly sweet F A public consultation. In the time between the Bill’s first and second ‘reading’ I doubt a single MP would have had time to physically read the document. Yes i realise the term ‘reading’ is a titular phrase but there is a complex nature to law, especially law involving manipulation of the Justice System.

    Giving MP’s, who are busy people, time to duly consider Bills in the House was once part of our parliamentary process. The collective manouevering of partisan motives, the self-protection and adjustment of potential personal rewards, these things used to matter to our politicians. Now its a smash and grab on the day with no consideration to the consequences or how much more they could have grabbed for themselves. Where is the long term thinking of our Nation’s leaders?

    Considering the content of this particular Bill involves our Courts I suppose it is understandable that they feel it doesn’t warrant any pause. It is hardly relevant after all, what are the odds any of them are going to see a Courtroom? The passage of Law in our country has become a dangerous and undemocratic joke, one in poor taste with a lousy punchline

  10. Carol 10
    17 November 2010 at 10:00 am

    Why are those royal bludgers all over our news media? It’s taken over the top section of the Stuff website, and a load of space on morning Report. They’ve been living together for a while now. Why not just nip quietly down to the registry office and save the taxpayers some extra grief in these times of “austerity”? Bread & circuses!

    • Tigger 10.1
      17 November 2010 at 11:45 am

      Oh Carol, don’t you know we now live in a period of new-adoration for royalty and all they signify? Key reinstated titles, and good on him too. Surely any sane person wants to live in a country that still has breathless adoration for an archaic system of peerage that has absolutely no meaning in the modern world? Why, I’m hoping, no praying, that Sir Mr Key (it’s inevitable, don’t you know?) decides that our laws can only be made by a faraway government and sells all our land to these noblepeople for some glass beads and blankets.

      • prism 10.1.1
        17 November 2010 at 1:00 pm

        Hey I wish them well. We are always hearing about celebrities anyway, so let’s have some royal celebrities being feted for getting married rather than others noted for taking drugs. All media are drawn to light stuff about people –
        Obama got in and the newspapers did a piece on Mrs. She is a smart woman in her clothes and lifestyle but also in her intelligence and mindset. What did we hear about, the former not the latter.

        • Vicky32 10.1.1.1
          17 November 2010 at 6:17 pm

          I agree Prism. This Royal Wedding thing is pretty harmless really! I just heard a reporter on 3 News saying the Royal Wedding is expected to cost $60 000 and I thought, hey., that’s much less than I would have expected!
          Given that on reality TV I’ve seen “ordinary New Zealand couples” spending pretty near that on their weddings…
          If Brangelina got married, there’d be pretty much a smiliar fuss. No biggie really…
          Deb

          • The Voice of Reason 10.1.1.1.1
            17 November 2010 at 6:33 pm

            60k won’t even cover the flowers, Deb. The Guardian suggests more like millions, not including police, transport and other associated costs.

            http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/nov/16/royal-wedding-bill-cost

            • Vicky32 10.1.1.1.1.1
              17 November 2010 at 6:50 pm

              Oops, sorry, I must have misheard… Let them pay for their own wedding! (Although I did hear they are paying for “part” of it.) I wonder what part?
              Deb

              • The Voice of Reason …
                17 November 2010 at 7:02 pm

                A very small part, I imagine, Deb. There will be a competition amongst the rich and powerful to gift them whatever is needed. It’s started already with London mayor Boris Johnson offering the use of the town hall at a knock down rate. Every wannabe Sir or Lord will be getting the chequebook out as we speak, hoping for a gong and a seat near the front at the do.

            • prism 10.1.1.1.1.2
              17 November 2010 at 8:53 pm

              They will probably sell the tv and magazine rights. The royals provide much interest directed at Britain. A republic in NZ would not result in similar focus on our top couple but we would have to pay for their probably extravagant lifestyle. Having the royals in Britain is good, they pay for the costs. And they have a bigger economy than ours.

              NZ a small country with a small economy has already turned the economy inside out for the RWC. We can get ourselves in hock for rugby, so I hope we can find some dosh to support soccer. But I don’t think we can afford a republic. I can’t see what advantages we’ll gain.
              And who would get to be President? It could even end up being Rodney Hide as political machinations might push him up to the job and out of everyone’s hair in the political corridors.

  11. Sanctuary 11
    17 November 2010 at 10:13 am

    The problem with “cosying up” to the Maori party is their price of coalition (effective privatisation of the foreshore and seabed) is unpalatable to the Pakeha majority. Since in MMP politics this presents an unsolvable conumdrum, I predict the solution that will be adopted by the Pakeha majority will be to replace MMP with FPP.

    • Lanthanide 11.1
      17 November 2010 at 11:11 am

      Given the Maori Party are winning electorate seats, that doesn’t actually solve the issue.

    • Lats 11.2
      17 November 2010 at 1:01 pm

      That hurdle was crossed successfully by the Nats at the last election, and their constituency is arguably less culturally diverse and less sympathetic to Maori issues than are Labour supporters, so it ought not be an insurmountable problem for Labour.

    • Jenny 11.3
      17 November 2010 at 3:24 pm

      Unfortunately, Sanctury it’s your meme that is wrong. It was the Labour government that with their Foreshore & Seabed legislation prepared the ground for the privatisation of the foreshore and seabed on behalf of big business and offshore mining interests who demanded the removal of any restrictions put on their exploitation of the S&F from troublesome indigenous rights claims as happened to them in Canada.

      Not long after the legislation was passed, prospecting rights for a huge area of the West Coast iron sands resource was sold off to an Aussie minerals group.

      The Labour Government hid this treachery behind simplistic rhetoric attacks on Maori by pandering to the prejudices of many Pakeha who believed the lie that Maori were trying to exclude them from the beaches.

      The truth was that the government was trying to deprive Maori of any right to mount any legal challenge to the use of these resources.

      • Colonial Viper 11.3.1
        17 November 2010 at 3:28 pm

        Links please, or this is just ridiculous speculation.

        • Jenny 11.3.1.1
          17 November 2010 at 3:42 pm

          I have provided the links for this several times whenever this argument has been raised. And they have never been challenged.

          Since you have challenged me to do it, I will dig them up again. If I go to this effort I would appreciate attempts by you or others to refute this chain of events, rather than as before just try and ignore it, so the racist myth making can continue.

          • Colonial Viper 11.3.1.1.1
            17 November 2010 at 4:16 pm

            Ah I think I just found what you were referring too, thanks

            http://thestandard.org.nz/what-the-foreshore-and-seabed-is-really-about/#comment-202229

            • Jenny 11.3.1.1.1.1
              17 November 2010 at 7:29 pm

              CV you also might like this:

              Changing The Game Plan Essay by Dr Maria Bargh, New Zealand Journal of Social Sciences Online May 2006

              The path to the Foreshore and Seabed Act itself began in June 2003 when the Court of Appeal ruled that the Maori Land Court had the jurisdiction to hear claims related to the foreshore and seabed. Shortly thereafter, the Government announced that it needed to legislate to protect the foreshore and seabed for all New Zealanders. The Act was passed in November 2004 and came into effect in January 2005. The Act vested the foreshore and seabed in the Crown and established a system under which Maori could take claims regarding customary rights to the Maori Land Court and territorial rights to the High Court. However, under the Act, these rights and remedies are of a radically lesser kind than would have been possible previously.5

              The following series of events draw into question and make problematic the Government’s claims of legislating in order to “protect” the foreshore and seabed. It is important to note that they are part of a broader and long-standing government approach which seeks to continue privatisation and corporatisation, while encouraging a greater role for the market mechanism in areas of the community previously governed in other ways (Bargh 2002; Hindess 2002).

              In early March 2005, information began to circulate about applications from national and international companies for licenses to explore and mine the ironsands from Raglan to Kaipara Harbour (Thompson 2005). Some mining had taken place in small sections of those areas, but the new applications were far more extensive and would involve mining and exporting huge quantities of ironsands. A number of environmental groups have argued that this kind of mining would have potentially devastating consequences for many species, including the Maui dolphin which lives in those waters and whose population now hovers at 100 (Thompson 2005).6

              Also in March 2005, Steve Maharey (Minister of Research, Science and Technology) ……. stated that: “There has been a huge increase in the income New Zealand generates from the oceans over the last decades … [and] there is potential for much greater increases in wealth … in the future … Future possibilities for new wealth that could be derived from the oceans are diverse. These opportunities could be in the biotechnology area; new species yet to be discovered could provide routes to novel substances. Or the microbiological community under the sea could provide new opportunities for a range of industrial and pharmaceutical processes. The mineral wealth could also provide considerable opportunities. (Maharey & Hodgson 2005)”

              In April 2005, it became public that the New Zealand Treasury was considering how the foreshore and seabed should appear in financial statements, and therefore how it was to be valued for the purposes of tendering out sections (for oyster farms or other exploitation) (Crewdson & Milne 2005). In July 2005, Crown Minerals made public its decision to allow Seafield Resources Ltd to conduct gold exploration of the seabed on the West Coast of Te Waipounamu (South Island). The exploration is not simply of the seabed, as defined from the low-water mark to the edge of New Zealand’s Exclusive Economic Zone, but also beyond towards the edge of the continental shelf (Madgwick 2005). With these events in mind, it is appropriate to consider the Government’s specific claim that it needed to legislate to “protect” the foreshore and seabed for all New Zealanders. It is difficult to imagine how creating a system to exploit the foreshore and seabed for monetary gain, including increasing mining of the foreshore and seabed (activity which is generally destructive of the environment and of ecosystems), might contribute to a concept of “protection”. It is clear from these projects that the exploitation of the foreshore and seabed in this way is not a random and unexpected development but rather part of a broader agenda of privatisation, commercialisation, and extension of the market mechanism, consistent with policies which the Government has pursued for some time and which played a key role in its unwavering intention to legislate.7 It also continues a much longer series of tensions between the Crown and Maori regarding the ownership of resources and how the benefits are to be distributed

              …..the United Nations Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination (CERD) released its report in March 2005, finding that the Foreshore and Seabed Act 2004 “appears … on balance to contain discriminatory aspects against the Maori” (United Nations Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination 2005).

              capcha – “debates”

          • prism 11.3.1.1.2
            17 November 2010 at 8:59 pm

            Jenny people should be directed to the archives of your earlier posts and you shouldn’t have to look them up again. It’s easy to view them.

  12. Lanthanide 12
    17 November 2010 at 11:09 am

    On Morning Report this morning, they tried to interview John Key, Bill English or whoever their chief whip is on the housing expenses rort, who all declined to talk. Pete Hodgson was on, pointing out that under the new rules the housing expenses have gone up 8%, when the new rules were supposed to save money.

    Hopefully this issue can be given air again.

  13. ianmac 13
    17 November 2010 at 11:14 am

    Fran O’Sullivan Herald today:
    “The New Zealand export lobby has given “big ups” to Trade Minister Tim Groser – who has chalked up another victory in New Zealand’s quest for free trade deals with emerging economic powerhouses by getting Russia to the negotiating point.”
    And I thought that John Key had single-handedly powered into the Russians. Now why did I get that wrong?

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=10688101

    • Jim Nald 13.1
      17 November 2010 at 3:31 pm

      It’s more likely that attribution to John Key’s so-called single-handedness would be met with a big finger up.

  14. nzfp 14
    17 November 2010 at 1:03 pm

    Well here’s an interesting one:
    The EconomicPolicyJournal reported on Tuesday, November 16, 2010 that Michael “Bloomberg Calls for Carbon Tax as a Way to Fight Terrorists”.

    That’s right – instead of discussing methods to reduce production and consumption – by maybe eradicating the debt based private banking system in New York – Bloomberg instead elects to take revenue from trades in Permissions to Pollute to fight terrorism.

    According to the Wall Street Journal, he told attendees at a Wall Street Journal CEO Council annual conference that the U.S. needs to reduce its dependence on foreign oil, if

    “you want to stop sending your money to … terrorists.”

    The answer, he said:

    “We need a carbon tax.”

    This is completely appropriate because on the 29th of January 2010 The Telegraph reported that Osama (Emmanuel Goldstein) Bin (dead since 2001) Laden has also entered the Climate Change debate by blaming industrialised countries for global warming.

    According to the Telegraph:

    Bin Laden criticised George W Bush, the former US president, for not signing the Kyoto Protocol on regulating carbon emissions, and spoke out against excessive corporate influence in the United States

    Demonstrating a surprising concern for the environment, Bin Laden voiced his dismay at recent international efforts to tackle global warming.

    “Discussing climate change is not an intellectual luxury, but a reality,” he said. “All of the industrialised countries, especially the big ones, bear responsibility for the global warming crisis.”

    You just can’t make this stuff up can you… Who frames the debate? The corporate media does – that’s who! Thesis, Anti-Thesis, Synthesis and the fourth element, complete control of all sides of the debate.

    Captcha:moments – it’s moments like these you need Minties…

  15. Carol 15
    17 November 2010 at 2:45 pm

    In a supplementary in Question time today, Sue Maroney (Labour) has quoted from this 2003 article, and asked the acting Minister of Women’s Affairs if she agrees with it:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=3517965

    The Ministry of Women’s Affairs is a sexist historic relic that should have been scrapped, says National Party MP Georgina te Heuheu.

    Georgina Te Heuheu says that might have been the case then, but it is not now.

    Now Moroney is asking if Te Heuheu been told by Key to take over the portfolio until it can be disbanded as part of the government’s public service cuts.

    • Carol 15.1
      17 November 2010 at 7:42 pm

      And now some ACT women MPs are saying that Te Heuheu was correct in 2003 and the Ministry of Women’s Affairs should be disbanded…. though their reasoning seems to be that underperforming ministries should be disbanded. I guess trying to get the MoWA to perform better hasn’t been considered?

      http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/4355433/Acting-Womens-Affairs-Minister-under-fire

      ACT MPs Heather Roy and Hilary Calvert today said they agreed with the premise that the ministry was sexist and historic and should be scrapped.

      “This ministry cost taxpayer’s nearly $5 million in the 2009-10 financial year, yet the recent Census of Women’s Participation 2010 shows that female participation in governance, professional and public life has begun to slide,” they said in a statement.

      “There are no ministries of men’s or children’s affairs – and nor should there be. If there were a case for special attention it would be with our boys, who are failing in education and over-represented in crime statistics.”

      Where to start with the contradictions? And according to that logic the Ministry of Finance should be disbanded because we are failing to close the gap with Aussie!

  16. bobo 16
    17 November 2010 at 3:26 pm

    National in yet more shit ?
    —-

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/4353958/Ministers-met-members-of-under-investigation-trust

    LATEST: A series of Government ministers met with the tax-payer funded trust now at the centre of a police investigation.

    Taeaomanino Trust Operations manager Ifopo So’o was dismissed in March 2009 after he admitted stealing around $107,000.

    An investigation by forensic accountants Deloitte later revealed a series of other allegations about inflated expense claims, senior managers employing relatives and staff leave.

    However, less than a year later the trust was awarded government contracts thought to be worth up to $1.7m by the Social Development Ministry.

    Prime Minister John Key met staff members of Trust earlier this year, its annual report reveals. The Trust was invited to participate in a business expo organised by National MP and Mana by-election candidate Hekia Parata and the Pacific Business Trust.

    Chief Executive Gerardine Clifford said in the report: “The Prime Minister’s parting comment, ‘I will definitely remember you guys’ along with the wonderful photos was a talking point for many months after.”

    ——–

    Love the John Key comment about the lovely photos, absolute classic 🙂

  17. Fisiani 17
    17 November 2010 at 4:05 pm

    Was at Porirua today and saw Matt McCarten and Hone Harawira and his team drumming up support under the canopies. I heard some of his team then tell passers by to walk to the special voting booth 20 metres away and cast their vote. Does that breach electoral law? Can you campaign that close to a polling booth.

  18. Vicky32 18
    17 November 2010 at 6:23 pm

    Patrick Gower attacks Matt McCarten and Kris Faafoi again… Sigh.

    • bobo 18.1
      17 November 2010 at 7:44 pm

      Patrick Gower spends his time trawling facebook coments these days for news.. So we get the route for the warkworth holiday highway today but no mana highway route which has been “delayed” so voters cant make an informed choice..

      http://www.nzta.govt.nz/about/media/releases/955/news.html

    • Lazy Susan 18.2
      17 November 2010 at 7:58 pm

      Gower’s a complete joke another beat up today following hard on the heels of yesterday’s “in-depth” look at Mana candidates knowledge of grocery prices. He calls himself a journalist – pathetic. By the way, strangely he forgot to mention that other famous “carpet bagger” John Key, MP for Helensville, who lives in Parnell. I really despair of the trash that Gower spits out.

  19. Chris73 19
    17 November 2010 at 7:20 pm

    Sorry I forgot its not good form to point out Liarbours failings is it

    [lprent: Diversions in posts outside of OpenMike are completely frowned upon. I view them as a sign of a probable troll, and in your case looking at the comment above – probably one still stuck in 2007.

    If you want to comment here, then follow the policies and contribute. Or if reading that is too hard (probable) then the main thing you need to remember is that wasting my time or that of the moderators is something we don’t appreciate. Mindless and pointless name-calling is just stupid and leads to flamewars that we have to stomp out. We usually start with the instigators.

    But if you want to be a f*ckwit then be my guest. I’ll dump your arse out of here so hard you won’t get back. In the unlikely condition that you have a capability to contribute, then I’ll ignore you. If you actually say anything worthwhile I may even argue with you. But personally I suspect that you have your head stuck so far up your arse that all you can speak are idiotic slogans of yesteryear. ]

  20. Chris73 20
    17 November 2010 at 7:29 pm

    Speaking of news…

    http://www.3news.co.nz/Full-interview-with-Litea-Ah-Hoi/tabid/370/articleID/186441/Default.aspx

    [lprent: completely off topic – moved to open mike.. ]

    • gobsmacked 20.1
      17 November 2010 at 7:38 pm

      Off topic, go to Open Mike, troll.

      On topic – why do you think John Key is linguistically incompetent and incoherent? Apart from maybe George W. Bush, can you think of anyone worse, in your lifetime?

      • Chris73 20.1.1
        17 November 2010 at 7:41 pm

        I personally don’t care how he speaks (truth be known he speaks like me and my work mates) but about results and as such I’m very pleased with how hes doing

        • Colonial Viper 20.1.1.1
          17 November 2010 at 9:24 pm

          (truth be known he speaks like me and my work mates)

          You work with a bunch of people who are inebbriated and evasive???

  21. Colonial Viper 21
    17 November 2010 at 9:26 pm

    Something is definitely changing in the MSM, the NZH just wrote this up on Coleman and made him look both daft and petty.

    “Minister attends NZ on Air party, then slams it”

    Broadcasting Minister Jonathan Coleman is under fire for attending a tax payer-funded New Zealand On Air party and then criticising it for spending too much money.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10688283

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    Chris Trotter writes –  The absence of anything resembling a fightback from the public servants currently losing their jobs is interesting. State-sector workers’ collective fatalism in the face of Coalition cutbacks indicates a surprisingly broad acceptance of impermanence in the workplace. Fifty years ago, lay-offs in the thousands ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    1 day ago

  • What happens after the war – Mariupol
    Mariupol, on the Azov Sea coast, was one of the first cities to suffer almost complete destruction after the start of the Ukraine War started in late February 2022. We remember the scenes of absolute destruction of the houses and city structures. The deaths of innocent civilians – many of ...
    Open ParachuteBy Ken
    1 day ago

  • Babies and benefits – no good news
    Lindsay Mitchell writes – Ten years ago, I wrote the following in a Listener column: Every year around one in five new-born babies will be reliant on their caregivers benefit by Christmas. This pattern has persisted from at least 1993. For Maori the number jumps to over one in three.  ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    1 day ago

  • Should the RBNZ be looking through climate inflation?
    Climate change is expected to generate more and more extreme events, delivering a sort of structural shock to inflation that central banks will have to react to as if they were short-term cyclical issues. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāMy pick of the six newsey things to know from Aotearoa’s ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    1 day ago

  • Bernard's pick 'n' mix of the news links
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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    1 day ago

  • Gordon Campbell on the public sector carnage, and misogyny as terrorism
    It’s a simple deal. We pay taxes in order to finance the social services we want and need. The carnage now occurring across the public sector though, is breaking that contract. Over 3,000 jobs have been lost so far. Many are in crucial areas like Education where the impact of ...
    Gordon CampbellBy lyndon
    1 day ago

  • Meeting the Master Baiters
    Hi,A friend had their 40th over the weekend and decided to theme it after Curb Your Enthusiasm fashion icon Susie Greene. Captured in my tiny kitchen before I left the house, I ending up evoking a mix of old lesbian and Hillary Clinton — both unintentional.Me vs Hillary ClintonIf you’re ...
    David FarrierBy David Farrier
    1 day ago

  • How extreme was the Earth's temperature in 2023
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    Skeptical Science
    1 day ago

  • Backbone, revisited
    The schools are on holiday and the sun is shining in the seaside village and all day long I have been seeing bunches of bikes; Mums, Dads, teens and toddlers chattering, laughing, happy, having a bloody great time together. Cheers, AT, for the bits of lane you’ve added lately around the ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    2 days ago

  • Ministers are not above the law
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago

  • What’s the outfit you can hear going down the gurgler? Probably it’s David Parker’s Oceans Sec...
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    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    2 days ago

  • Will politicians let democracy die in the darkness?
    Bryce Edwards writes  – Politicians across the political spectrum are implicated in the New Zealand media’s failing health. Either through neglect or incompetent interventions, successive governments have failed to regulate, foster, and allow a healthy Fourth Estate that can adequately hold politicians and the powerful to account. ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago

  • Matt Doocey doubles down on trans “healthcare”
    Citizen Science writes –  Last week saw two significant developments in the debate over the treatment of trans-identifying children and young people – the release in Britain of the final report of Dr Hilary Cass’s review into gender healthcare, and here in New Zealand, the news that the ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago

  • A TikTok Prime Minister.
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    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    2 days ago

  • Texas Lessons
    This is a guest post by Oscar Simms who is a housing activist, volunteer for the Coalition for More Homes, and was the Labour Party candidate for Auckland Central at the last election. ...
    Greater AucklandBy Guest Post
    2 days ago

  • Bernard's pick 'n' mix of the news links at 6:06 am
    The top six news links I’ve seen elsewhere in the last 24 hours as of 6:06 am on Wednesday, April 17 are:Must read: Secrecy shrouds which projects might be fast-tracked RNZ Farah HancockScoop: Revealed: Luxon has seven staffers working on social media content - partly paid for by taxpayer Newshub ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    2 days ago

  • Fighting poverty on the holiday highway
    Turning what Labour called the “holiday highway” into a four-lane expressway from Auckland to Whangarei could bring at least an economic benefit of nearly two billion a year for Northland each year. And it could help bring an end to poverty in one of New Zealand’s most deprived regions. The ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    2 days ago

  • Bernard's six-stack of substacks at 6:26 pm
    Tonight’s six-stack includes: launching his substack with a bunch of his previous documentaries, including this 1992 interview with Dame Whina Cooper. and here crew give climate activists plenty to do, including this call to submit against the Fast Track Approvals bill. writes brilliantly here on his substack ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago

  • At a glance – Is the science settled?
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    Skeptical Science
    3 days ago

  • Apposite Quotations.
    How Long Is Long Enough? Gaza under Israeli bombardment, July 2014. This posting is exclusive to Bowalley Road. ...
    Bowalley Road
    3 days ago

  • What’s a life worth now?
    You're in the mall when you hear it: some kind of popping sound in the distance, kids with fireworks, maybe. But then a moment of eerie stillness is followed by more of the fireworks sound and there’s also screaming and shrieking and now here come people running for their lives.Does ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    3 days ago

  • Howling at the Moon
    Karl du Fresne writes –  There’s a crisis in the news media and the media are blaming it on everyone except themselves. Culpability is being deflected elsewhere – mainly to the hapless Minister of Communications, Melissa Lee, and the big social media platforms that are accused of hoovering ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • Newshub is Dead.
    I don’t normally send out two newsletters in a day but I figured I’d say something about… the news. If two newsletters is a bit much then maybe just skip one, I don’t want to overload people. Alternatively if you’d be interested in sometimes receiving multiple, smaller updates from me, ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    3 days ago

  • Seymour is chuffed about cutting early-learning red tape – but we hear, too, that Jones has loose...
    Buzz from the Beehive David Seymour and Winston Peters today signalled that at least two ministers of the Crown might be in Wellington today. Seymour (as Associate Minister of Education) announced the removal of more red tape, this time to make it easier for new early learning services to be ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    3 days ago

  • Bryce Edwards: Will politicians let democracy die in the darkness?
    Politicians across the political spectrum are implicated in the New Zealand media’s failing health. Either through neglect or incompetent interventions, successive governments have failed to regulate, foster, and allow a healthy Fourth Estate that can adequately hold politicians and the powerful to account. Our political system is suffering from the ...
    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    3 days ago

  • Was Hawkesby entirely wrong?
    David Farrar  writes –  The Broadcasting Standards Authority ruled: Comments by radio host Kate Hawkesby suggesting Māori and Pacific patients were being prioritised for surgery due to their ethnicity were misleading and discriminatory, the Broadcasting Standards Authority has found. It is a fact such patients are prioritised. ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • PRC shadow looms as the Solomons head for election
    PRC and its proxies in Solomons have been preparing for these elections for a long time. A lot of money, effort and intelligence have gone into ensuring an outcome that won’t compromise Beijing’s plans. Cleo Paskall writes – On April 17th the Solomon Islands, a country of ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • Climate Change: Criminal ecocide
    We are in the middle of a climate crisis. Last year was (again) the hottest year on record. NOAA has just announced another global coral bleaching event. Floods are threatening UK food security. So naturally, Shane Jones wants to make it easier to mine coal: Resources Minister Shane Jones ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago

  • Is saving one minute of a politician's time worth nearly $1 billion?
    Is speeding up the trip to and from Wellington airport by 12 minutes worth spending up more than $10 billion? Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: The six news items that stood out to me in the last day to 8:26 am today are:The Lead: Transport Minister Simeon Brown announced ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago

  • Long Tunnel or Long Con?
    Yesterday it was revealed that Transport Minister had asked Waka Kotahi to look at the options for a long tunnel through Wellington. State Highway 1 (SH1) through Wellington City is heavily congested at peak times and while planning continues on the duplicate Mt Victoria Tunnel and Basin Reserve project, the ...
    Greater AucklandBy Matt L
    3 days ago

  • Smoke And Mirrors.
    You're a fraud, and you know itBut it's too good to throw it all awayAnyone would do the sameYou've got 'em goingAnd you're careful not to show itSometimes you even fool yourself a bitIt's like magicBut it's always been a smoke and mirrors gameAnyone would do the sameForty six billion ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    3 days ago

  • What is Mexico doing about climate change?
    This is a re-post from Yale Climate Connections The June general election in Mexico could mark a turning point in ensuring that the country’s climate policies better reflect the desire of its citizens to address the climate crisis, with both leading presidential candidates expressing support for renewable energy. Mexico is the ...
    Skeptical Science
    3 days ago

  • State of humanity, 2024
    2024, it feels, keeps presenting us with ever more challenges, ever more dismay.Do you give up yet? It seems to ask.No? How about this? Or this?How about this?When I say 2024 I really mean the state of humanity in 2024.Saturday night, we watched Civil War because that is one terrifying cliff we've ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    4 days ago

  • Govt’s Wellington tunnel vision aims to ease the way to the airport (but zealous promoters of cycl...
    Buzz from the Beehive A pet project and governmental tunnel vision jump out from the latest batch of ministerial announcements. The government is keen to assure us of its concern for the wellbeing of our pets. It will be introducing pet bonds in a change to the Residential Tenancies Act ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    4 days ago

  • The case for cultural connectedness
    A recent report generated from a Growing Up in New Zealand (GUiNZ) survey of 1,224 rangatahi Māori aged 11-12 found: Cultural connectedness was associated with fewer depression symptoms, anxiety symptoms and better quality of life. That sounds cut and dry. But further into the report the following appears: Cultural connectedness is ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago

  • Useful context on public sector job cuts
    David Farrar writes –    The Herald reports: From the gory details of job-cuts news, you’d think the public service was being eviscerated.   While the media’s view of the cuts is incomplete, it’s also true that departments have been leaking the particulars faster than a Wellington ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago

  • Gordon Campbell On When Racism Comes Disguised As Anti-racism
    Remember the good old days, back when New Zealand had a PM who could think and speak calmly and intelligently in whole sentences without blustering? Even while Iran’s drones and missiles were still being launched, Helen Clark was live on TVNZ expertly summing up the latest crisis in the Middle ...
    Gordon CampbellBy lyndon
    4 days ago

  • Govt ignored economic analysis of smokefree reversal
    Costello did not pass on analysis of the benefits of the smokefree reforms to Cabinet, emphasising instead the extra tax revenues of repealing them. Photo: Hagen Hopkins, Getty Images TL;DR: The six news items that stood out to me at 7:26 am today are:The Lead: Casey Costello never passed on ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    4 days ago

  • True Blue.
    True loveYou're the one I'm dreaming ofYour heart fits me like a gloveAnd I'm gonna be true blueBaby, I love youI’ve written about the job cuts in our news media last week. The impact on individuals, and the loss to Aotearoa of voices covering our news from different angles.That by ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    4 days ago

  • Who is running New Zealand’s foreign policy?
    While commentators, including former Prime Minister Helen Clark, are noting a subtle shift in New Zealand’s foreign policy, which now places more emphasis on the United States, many have missed a key element of the shift. What National said before the election is not what the government is doing now. ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    4 days ago

  • 2024 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming News Roundup #15
    A listing of 31 news and opinion articles we found interesting and shared on social media during the past week: Sun, April 7, 2024 thru Sat, April 13, 2024. Story of the week Our story of the week is about adults in the room setting terms and conditions of ...
    Skeptical Science
    5 days ago

  • Feline Friends and Fragile Fauna The Complexities of Cats in New Zealand’s Conservation Efforts

    Cats, with their independent spirit and beguiling purrs, have captured the hearts of humans for millennia. In New Zealand, felines are no exception, boasting the highest national cat ownership rate globally [definition cat nz cat foundation]. An estimated 1.134 million pet cats grace Kiwi households, compared to 683,000 dogs ...

    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    5 days ago

  • Or is that just they want us to think?
    Nice guy, that Peter Williams. Amiable, a calm air of no-nonsense capability, a winning smile. Everything you look for in a TV presenter and newsreader.I used to see him sometimes when I went to TVNZ to be a talking head or a panellist and we would yarn. Nice guy, that ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    5 days ago

  • Fact Brief – Did global warming stop in 1998?
    Skeptical Science is partnering with Gigafact to produce fact briefs — bite-sized fact checks of trending claims. This fact brief was written by Sue Bin Park in collaboration with members from our Skeptical Science team. You can submit claims you think need checking via the tipline. Did global warming stop in ...
    Skeptical Science
    6 days ago

  • Arguing over a moot point.
    I have been following recent debates in the corporate and social media about whether it is a good idea for NZ to join what is known as “AUKUS Pillar Two.” AUKUS is the Australian-UK-US nuclear submarine building agreement in which … Continue reading → ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    6 days ago

  • No Longer Trusted: Ageing Boomers, Laurie & Les, Talk Politics.
    Turning Point: “What has turned me away from the mainstream news media is the very strong message that its been sending out for the last few years.” “And what message might that be?” “That the people who own it, the people who run it, and the people who provide its content, really don’t ...
    Bowalley Road
    6 days ago

  • Mortgage rates at 10% anyone?
    No – nothing about that in PM Luxon’s nine-point plan to improve the lives of New Zealanders. But beyond our shores Jamie Dimon, the long-serving head of global bank J.P. Morgan Chase, reckons that the chances of a goldilocks soft landing for the economy are “a lot lower” than the ...
    Point of OrderBy xtrdnry
    6 days ago

  • Education Minister heads to major teaching summit in Singapore
    Education Minister Erica Stanford will lead the New Zealand delegation at the 2024 International Summit on the Teaching Profession (ISTP) held in Singapore. The delegation includes representatives from the Post Primary Teachers’ Association (PPTA) Te Wehengarua and the New Zealand Educational Institute (NZEI) Te Riu Roa.  The summit is co-hosted ...
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    2 hours ago

  • Value of stopbank project proven during cyclone
    A stopbank upgrade project in Tairawhiti partly funded by the Government has increased flood resilience for around 7000ha of residential and horticultural land so far, Regional Development Minister Shane Jones says. Mr Jones today attended a dawn service in Gisborne to mark the end of the first stage of the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 hours ago

  • Anzac commemorations, Türkiye relationship focus of visit
    Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters will represent the Government at Anzac Day commemorations on the Gallipoli Peninsula next week and engage with senior representatives of the Turkish government in Istanbul.    “The Gallipoli campaign is a defining event in our history. It will be a privilege to share the occasion ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 hours ago

  • Minister to Europe for OECD meeting, Anzac Day
    Science, Innovation and Technology and Defence Minister Judith Collins will next week attend the OECD Science and Technology Ministerial conference in Paris and Anzac Day commemorations in Belgium. “Science, innovation and technology have a major role to play in rebuilding our economy and achieving better health, environmental and social outcomes ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 hours ago

  • Comprehensive Partnership the goal for NZ and the Philippines
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon held a bilateral meeting today with the President of the Philippines, Ferdinand Marcos Jr.  The Prime Minister was accompanied by MP Paulo Garcia, the first Filipino to be elected to a legislature outside the Philippines. During today’s meeting, Prime Minister Luxon and President Marcos Jr discussed opportunities to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    16 hours ago

  • Government commits $20m to Westport flood protection
    The Government has announced that $20 million in funding will be made available to Westport to fund much needed flood protection around the town. This measure will significantly improve the resilience of the community, says Local Government Minister Simeon Brown. “The Westport community has already been allocated almost $3 million ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    22 hours ago

  • Taupō takes pole position
    The Government is proud to support the first ever Repco Supercars Championship event in Taupō as up to 70,000 motorsport fans attend the Taupō International Motorsport Park this weekend, says Economic Development Minister Melissa Lee. “Anticipation for the ITM Taupō Super400 is huge, with tickets and accommodation selling out weeks ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    23 hours ago

  • Cost of living support for low-income homeowners
    Local Government Minister Simeon Brown has announced an increase to the Rates Rebate Scheme, putting money back into the pockets of low-income homeowners.  “The coalition Government is committed to bringing down the cost of living for New Zealanders. That includes targeted support for those Kiwis who are doing things tough, such ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Government backing mussel spat project
    The Coalition Government is investing in a project to boost survival rates of New Zealand mussels and grow the industry, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones has announced. “This project seeks to increase the resilience of our mussels and significantly boost the sector’s productivity,” Mr Jones says. “The project - ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Government focused on getting people into work
    Benefit figures released today underscore the importance of the Government’s plan to rebuild the economy and have 50,000 fewer people on Jobseeker Support, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says. “Benefit numbers are still significantly higher than when National was last in government, when there was about 70,000 fewer ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Clean energy key driver to reducing emissions
    The Government’s commitment to doubling New Zealand’s renewable energy capacity is backed by new data showing that clean energy has helped the country reach its lowest annual gross emissions since 1999, Climate Change Minister Simon Watts says. New Zealand’s latest Greenhouse Gas Inventory (1990-2022) published today, shows gross emissions fell ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Earthquake-prone buildings review brought forward
    The Government is bringing the earthquake-prone building review forward, with work to start immediately, and extending the deadline for remediations by four years, Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk says. “Our Government is focused on rebuilding the economy. A key part of our plan is to cut red tape that ...
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    1 day ago

  • Thailand and NZ to agree to Strategic Partnership
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and his Thai counterpart, Prime Minister Srettha Thavisin, have today agreed that New Zealand and the Kingdom of Thailand will upgrade the bilateral relationship to a Strategic Partnership by 2026. “New Zealand and Thailand have a lot to offer each other. We have a strong mutual desire to build ...
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    2 days ago

  • Government consults on extending coastal permits for ports
    RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop and Transport Minister Simeon Brown have today announced the Coalition Government’s intention to extend port coastal permits for a further 20 years, providing port operators with certainty to continue their operations. “The introduction of the Resource Management Act in 1991 required ports to obtain coastal ...
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    2 days ago

  • Inflation coming down, but more work to do
    Today’s announcement that inflation is down to 4 per cent is encouraging news for Kiwis, but there is more work to be done - underlining the importance of the Government’s plan to get the economy back on track, acting Finance Minister Chris Bishop says. “Inflation is now at 4 per ...
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    2 days ago

  • School attendance restored as a priority in health advice
    Refreshed health guidance released today will help parents and schools make informed decisions about whether their child needs to be in school, addressing one of the key issues affecting school attendance, says Associate Education Minister David Seymour. In recent years, consistently across all school terms, short-term illness or medical reasons ...
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    2 days ago

  • Unnecessary bureaucracy cut in oceans sector
    Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones is streamlining high-level oceans management while maintaining a focus on supporting the sector’s role in the export-led recovery of the economy. “I am working to realise the untapped potential of our fishing and aquaculture sector. To achieve that we need to be smarter with ...
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    2 days ago

  • Patterson promoting NZ’s wool sector at International Congress
    Associate Agriculture Minister Mark Patterson is speaking at the International Wool Textile Organisation Congress in Adelaide, promoting New Zealand wool, and outlining the coalition Government’s support for the revitalisation the sector.    "New Zealand’s wool exports reached $400 million in the year to 30 June 2023, and the coalition Government ...
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    3 days ago

  • Removing red tape to help early learners thrive
    The Government is making legislative changes to make it easier for new early learning services to be established, and for existing services to operate, Associate Education Minister David Seymour says. The changes involve repealing the network approval provisions that apply when someone wants to establish a new early learning service, ...
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    3 days ago

  • RMA changes to cut coal mining consent red tape
    Changes to the Resource Management Act will align consenting for coal mining to other forms of mining to reduce barriers that are holding back economic development, Resources Minister Shane Jones says. “The inconsistent treatment of coal mining compared with other extractive activities is burdensome red tape that fails to acknowledge ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago

  • McClay reaffirms strong NZ-China trade relationship
    Trade, Agriculture and Forestry Minister Todd McClay has concluded productive discussions with ministerial counterparts in Beijing today, in support of the New Zealand-China trade and economic relationship. “My meeting with Commerce Minister Wang Wentao reaffirmed the complementary nature of the bilateral trade relationship, with our Free Trade Agreement at its ...
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    3 days ago

  • Prime Minister Luxon acknowledges legacy of Singapore Prime Minister Lee
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon today paid tribute to Singapore’s outgoing Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong.   Meeting in Singapore today immediately before Prime Minister Lee announced he was stepping down, Prime Minister Luxon warmly acknowledged his counterpart’s almost twenty years as leader, and the enduring legacy he has left for Singapore and South East ...
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    4 days ago

  • PMs Luxon and Lee deepen Singapore-NZ ties
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon held a bilateral meeting today with Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong. While in Singapore as part of his visit to South East Asia this week, Prime Minister Luxon also met with Singapore President Tharman Shanmugaratnam and will meet with Deputy Prime Minister Lawrence Wong.  During today’s meeting, Prime Minister Luxon ...
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    4 days ago

  • Antarctica New Zealand Board appointments
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters has made further appointments to the Board of Antarctica New Zealand as part of a continued effort to ensure the Scott Base Redevelopment project is delivered in a cost-effective and efficient manner.  The Minister has appointed Neville Harris as a new member of the Board. Mr ...
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    4 days ago

  • Finance Minister travels to Washington DC
    Finance Minister Nicola Willis will travel to the United States on Tuesday to attend a meeting of the Five Finance Ministers group, with counterparts from Australia, the United States, Canada, and the United Kingdom.  “I am looking forward to meeting with our Five Finance partners on how we can work ...
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    4 days ago

  • Pet bonds a win/win for renters and landlords
    The coalition Government has today announced purrfect and pawsitive changes to the Residential Tenancies Act to give tenants with pets greater choice when looking for a rental property, says Housing Minister Chris Bishop. “Pets are important members of many Kiwi families. It’s estimated that around 64 per cent of New ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago

  • Long Tunnel for SH1 Wellington being considered
    State Highway 1 (SH1) through Wellington City is heavily congested at peak times and while planning continues on the duplicate Mt Victoria Tunnel and Basin Reserve project, the Government has also asked NZ Transport Agency (NZTA) to consider and provide advice on a Long Tunnel option, Transport Minister Simeon Brown ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago

  • New Zealand condemns Iranian strikes
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and Foreign Minister Winston Peters have condemned Iran’s shocking and illegal strikes against Israel.    “These attacks are a major challenge to peace and stability in a region already under enormous pressure," Mr Luxon says.    "We are deeply concerned that miscalculation on any side could ...
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    5 days ago

  • Huge interest in Government’s infrastructure plans
    Hundreds of people in little over a week have turned out in Northland to hear Regional Development Minister Shane Jones speak about plans for boosting the regional economy through infrastructure. About 200 people from the infrastructure and associated sectors attended an event headlined by Mr Jones in Whangarei today. Last ...
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    7 days ago

  • Health Minister thanks outgoing Health New Zealand Chair
    Health Minister Dr Shane Reti has today thanked outgoing Health New Zealand – Te Whatu Ora Chair Dame Karen Poutasi for her service on the Board.   “Dame Karen tendered her resignation as Chair and as a member of the Board today,” says Dr Reti.  “I have asked her to ...
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    7 days ago

  • Roads of National Significance planning underway
    The NZ Transport Agency (NZTA) has signalled their proposed delivery approach for the Government’s 15 Roads of National Significance (RoNS), with the release of the State Highway Investment Proposal (SHIP) today, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says.  “Boosting economic growth and productivity is a key part of the Government’s plan to ...
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    1 week ago

  • Navigating an unstable global environment
    New Zealand is renewing its connections with a world facing urgent challenges by pursuing an active, energetic foreign policy, Foreign Minister Winston Peters says.   “Our country faces the most unstable global environment in decades,” Mr Peters says at the conclusion of two weeks of engagements in Egypt, Europe and the United States.    “We cannot afford to sit back in splendid ...
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    1 week ago

  • NZ welcomes Australian Governor-General
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon has announced the Australian Governor-General, His Excellency General The Honourable David Hurley and his wife Her Excellency Mrs Linda Hurley, will make a State visit to New Zealand from Tuesday 16 April to Thursday 18 April. The visit reciprocates the State visit of former Governor-General Dame Patsy Reddy ...
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    1 week ago

  • Pseudoephedrine back on shelves for Winter
    Associate Health Minister David Seymour has announced that Medsafe has approved 11 cold and flu medicines containing pseudoephedrine. Pharmaceutical suppliers have indicated they may be able to supply the first products in June. “This is much earlier than the original expectation of medicines being available by 2025. The Government recognised ...
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  • NZ and the US: an ever closer partnership
    New Zealand and the United States have recommitted to their strategic partnership in Washington DC today, pledging to work ever more closely together in support of shared values and interests, Foreign Minister Winston Peters says.    “The strategic environment that New Zealand and the United States face is considerably more ...
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  • Joint US and NZ declaration
    April 11, 2024 Joint Declaration by United States Secretary of State the Honorable Antony J. Blinken and New Zealand Minister of Foreign Affairs the Right Honourable Winston Peters We met today in Washington, D.C. to recommit to the historic partnership between our two countries and the principles that underpin it—rule ...
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  • NZ and US to undertake further practical Pacific cooperation
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters has announced further New Zealand cooperation with the United States in the Pacific Islands region through $16.4 million in funding for initiatives in digital connectivity and oceans and fisheries research.   “New Zealand can achieve more in the Pacific if we work together more urgently and ...
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  • Government redress for Te Korowai o Wainuiārua
    The Government is continuing the bipartisan effort to restore its relationship with iwi as the Te Korowai o Wainuiārua Claims Settlement Bill passed its first reading in Parliament today, says Treaty Negotiations Minister Paul Goldsmith. “Historical grievances of Te Korowai o Wainuiārua relate to 19th century warfare, land purchased or taken ...
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  • Focus on outstanding minerals permit applications
    New Zealand Petroleum and Minerals is working to resolve almost 150 outstanding minerals permit applications by the end of the financial year, enabling valuable mining activity and signalling to the sector that New Zealand is open for business, Resources Minister Shane Jones says.  “While there are no set timeframes for ...
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  • Applications open for NZ-Ireland Research Call
    The New Zealand and Irish governments have today announced that applications for the 2024 New Zealand-Ireland Joint Research Call on Agriculture and Climate Change are now open. This is the third research call in the three-year Joint Research Initiative pilot launched in 2022 by the Ministry for Primary Industries and Ireland’s ...
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