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Open mike 17/12/2010

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  1. Thought for Friday…

    Even the sun shines on a dogs ass some days

    • Bored 1.1

      Hi Polly, brings a little context to the meeeting between Diogenes and Alexander…

      Alexander, thrilled to meet the famous philosopher, asked if there was any favour he might do for him. Diogenes replied, “Yes, stand out of my sunlight”. Alexander then declared, “If I were not Alexander, then I should wish to be Diogenes.”[24] In another account of the conversation, Alexander found the philosopher looking attentively at a pile of human bones. Diogenes explained, “I am searching for the bones of your father but cannot distinguish them from those of a slave.”

      There may be some wisdom around light and dogs backsides…who knows?

  2. Sanctuary 2

    Ah, the big hearted generosity of the boss class-

    “…Staff at a North Island freezing works had their pay cut for the official two-minute silence to remember the 29 miners killed in the Pike River mine…”

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10694840

    These are the sort of people right wingers would deliver us to for mercy in their “free market” society.

    • cardassian 2.1

      The article says that the union turned down the opportunity for the workers to make up the 2 minutes as overtime (and therefore get paid overtime rates) as it wasn’t about money but showing solidarity.
      Could of been handled better by the bosses but not exactly evil capitalists taking advantage of the uninformed here.
      Also to be fair this is the same company that is paying the workers full pay until christmas and minimum wage until new years despite the fact they can’t work due to the plant burning down.
      They’ve also offered to pay for workers relocation if they want to take up work at another branch in the new year.

    • Lanthanide 2.2

      How much is 2 minutes worth anyway? 50 cents if they’re being paid $15/hour. What sort of pathetic company goes out of it’s way to dock 50 cents from each staff’s pay? That’d probably cost more in admin overhead than they recoup.

      • prism 2.2.1

        Lanthanide and Sanctuary –
        The 2 minute silence meant a difference for the company and the workers of two less animals each, being processed. That would mean that the company wouldn’t meet its production requirements for the work period to meet its orders and wouldn’t humanely handle animals that had been prepared to be killed.

        One 2 minute break per person multiplied by all the workers, means an overall expensive overhead cost for the plant. The company can’t replace product for orders with cards of sympathy. If they offered extra time to make up quota, with overtime pay, they were being rational and fair. If the union refused to do this then it was being unsupportive to the company, and the jobs provided, and for a whim. If the union used their brains and acted responsibly towards the company the workers would have finished their work requirement with overtime, and then donated that overtime pay to assist fellow workers in need with much needed cash – and that would be a meaningful way to show solidarity.

        captcha – suffered

        • Bored 2.2.1.1

          Prism, from the employers angle you are right. Experience in these places tells me however that reality is not nearly as precise, times vary. What happens more often than not is that the company turns a blind eye to the extra few minutes they gain here and there, but always hammer the ones they lose. Sound like there is no give and take at the plant, the workers described the company as “mongrels”. Maybe there is something else going on we do not know about?

          • prism 2.2.1.1.1

            True Bored. But thought of the problem from the employer’s point of view about output and schedules – something that unions don’t always do to their own and the business’s disadvantage.

            • mcflock 2.2.1.1.1.1

              Let’s see the stats from the article: $170 workers * $1.50 per animal * 2 animals (63 seconds to process an animal) = $510.

              Sum cost to SFF.

              The joys of having free advertising painting them as penny-pinching dicks who can’t deal with 2 minutes silence? Priceless.

            • Vicky32 2.2.1.1.1.2

              Yes, but the action is disgusting Prism. 2 minutes for goodness’ sake! From what I have read, workers didn’t even get a choice about whether they wanted to observe the silence! It’s just crazy..
              Deb

  3. Pascal's bookie 3

    hardcopy granny sez:

    Treasury is required to declare fiscal risks facing the Government in economic updates. In the recent half-yearly update, the rules have changed without anyone paying attention. The threshold for such risks has been lifted from $10 million to $100 million which matters because the Government says it has only just over $1 billion for new spending, and most of that is accounted for. And anyway, Finance Minister Bill English can veto what is listed if he believes it is not in the national interest to make it public. This makes some nervous about what Treasury might be worrying about, but may have been told not to disclose.

    • Draco T Bastard 3.1

      So, that would be Blinglish manipulating the numbers to try and make himself look good again?

  4. burt 4

    I see in the dom post today that Chris Carter said he might stand as an independent… so a police inquiry into his rorts starts today ?

  5. Muzza 5

    Obama continues his run towards the right. It really is amazing watching someone so effectively alienate and disenfranchise their base. Obama has no credibility as a lefty. Spare the arguments along the lines of ‘he has to work within the political reality’ or ‘ these are extraordinary circumstances’. He is a failure and this open letter, signed by some of America’s leading lefties, further reinforces that idea.

    http://www.truth-out.org/an-open-letter-left-establishment65848

    • Lanthanide 5.1

      What passes for ‘left wing’ in America is ‘right wing’ to the rest of the world anyway.

    • millsy 5.2

      40-odd years ago, only Nixon could go to China, now only Obama could cut Social Security and Medicare (and sack schoolteachers en masse something that Anne Tolley could only dream of doing.)

      Of course, the USA could cut its huge debt by closing down some of its military bases around the world, 100 of which are in Germany.

      • Lanthanide 5.2.1

        That would give them an even bigger unemployment problem.

        • Bored 5.2.1.1

          What problem? Get real, the right sees no problem with unemployment, it keeps wages down, imposes discipline through fear. it is only a problem if you are unemployed.

          I am getting to thinking that Lenin was right, to get workers to rebel you need to make life unbearable.

          • Lanthanide 5.2.1.1.1

            The unemployment problem is a problem for senators and representatives in congress, and ultimately the president. When senators or congressmen don’t do enough to cut unemployment, they too are made unemployed and replaced with someone else who the public think might be able to do a better job.

            Therefore: cutting military spending, cutting military jobs = you lose your elected position and gravy train.

            • Draco T Bastard 5.2.1.1.1.1

              Shutting down the bases wouldn’t necessarily increase unemployment as the troops could still be employed but the US would still save money because the bases themselves are expensive to maintain.

            • Bored 5.2.1.1.1.2

              Sorry Lan, what problem? Give me an example of one time serving right wing senator being replaced by a lefty equivalent who manages to do any different? Look at Obama today.

              • Lanthanide

                I think you missed my point. Unemployment is a problem for any senator or congressman that lets it happen on their watch, because they’re likely to be voted out. Whether or not whoever it is replaces them does a better job or not is irrelevant once they’ve been voted out.

                So although you say “the right don’t care about unemployment”, from this perspective they do – because they’ll be out of a job if they don’t handle it.

                • Zorr

                  Which is why such congresspeople and senators actively vote against unemployment payment extensions? Most of these guys could care less about the “voting public” because a) most of the public don’t vote and b) any of those that do can be won over by loud music, lasers, Sarah Palin and the threat of “socialism”

  6. ron 6

    This
    http://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/64389/aid-agencies-criticise-scheme-over-funding-rejections

    is only the tip of a very smelly pile.
    The fiasco around development funding is mirrored in a number of other government departments at the moment.
    Education providers are still waiting for important details from TEC about their contracts for next year – just a month away.
    Ministry of Youth development has yet to finalise contracts for funding approved months ago.
    MSD seem unable to supply important background information to contractors. Entire provision systems have been the victim of last minute changes to contracts, processes and structures.
    New funds set up by this government are characterised by inconsistent decisions, overly complex processes and lack of information to those applying. New contracting processes are characterised by last minute changes and rushed processes. Most of all it seems no-one in these departments knows what’s going on.

    The cause of this situation? Ideologically driven Ministers handing down badly thought out instructions to their departments – often against advice from the very people who then have to administer the mess.
    Confusion, ideological funding decisions and chaotic processes are now endemic in the government relationship with providers.

    • burt 6.1

      Confusion, ideological funding decisions and chaotic processes are now endemic in the government relationship with providers.

      Moving from a pure bums on seats model designed only to produce good ‘in work’ education statistics to a results and outcomes driven funding model will cause confusion. Stick with it Ron, if the organisations you speak off have any real value other than creating employment under a Labour tax payer spending circus then you will provide value rather than only good looking stats.

      • Draco T Bastard 6.1.1

        burt, you failed to read what ron said, specifically, New contracting processes are characterised by last minute changes and rushed processes. Most of all it seems no-one in these departments knows what’s going on which would indicate that the ministers are making kneejerk ideological decisions, changing their minds in more kneejerk ideological decisions and then expecting the staff to cope with the chaos then created by the minister.

        In other words, NACT being completely incompetent.

      • Ron 6.1.2

        Burt
        TOPS and YT are anything but “bums on seats” set ups.
        Providers have been required to deliver clear, timely, measurable and effective outcomes. For the most part have done that very effectively. They don’t receive their funding if they don’t. Of course “numbers” are a part of that but qualifications and employment are a much more importtant part.
        In TOPS the Govt has now DOUBLED the required throughput required (there’s your “bums on seats” – and you watch P Benefit crow about it in 2011 – “more people in training!”) and set substantially higher employment and training outcomes. (training outcomes that are frankly stupid) with not a skerric of extra funding. They have also moved a number of administrative roles on to providers further adding to the costs involved.

        Some of these outcomes are simply stupid and unattainable. Others just involve more staff and more work and will force many providers out of the field, further limiting the options for training and re-training. And of course none of the new structure addresses the major concern among providers – that is the pastoral support that many clients require in order to attain any outcomes. That was the biggest hole in the system and has been completely ignored. (an example – in the Nelson/Tasman region MSD have contracted 1 – One “in work support” worker. They are requiring over twice as many work placements from the TOPS courses, they require those people to stay in that placement 33% longer in order that the provider receives their funding and they have provided 1 person to ensure that. It’s a joke)

        In the “information gathering” process that occured late this year many providers pointed out the many holes in the new structure. They were ignored and now TEC?MSD are scrambling to find ways of making a dumb idea work.

        You “stick with it” comment is an insult. In my experience, these organisations are committed to and cater to the well being of their clients way over and above any contractual requirements. Society gets enormous value from these organisations and their staff. We will lose many of those workers this year and the Government will have worse employment results as a consequence. They will restructure again – and the same story will be repeated.

    • Vicky32 6.2

      My friend who works for Tear Fund was very upset about the aid agency part of that, and posted Red Alert’s comment about it on Facebook..
      Deb

  7. Name 7

    For a concise and comprehensible explanation of the economic catastrophe caused by greedy bankers in the US which is costing millions their homes I recommend:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/l-randall-wray/post_1440_b_797563.html

    Yet, amazingly, 60% of individual bankruptcies in the US are caused by medical costs incurred by people who actually had medical insurance!

    Ah America, home of the free.

  8. Anyone who wants to help campaign for a NZ domestic legislative framework to PREVENT and fight corruption, and build genuinely transparency into central and local government and the judiciary – contact me.

    This campaign will particularly focus on exposing the ‘grand’ corruption involved in privatisation / private procurement/’contracting-out’ model – which is the underpinning basis for most bribery and corruption.

    That is why I am standing in the Botany by-election – to help build the public campaign to achieve these goals.

    Keen to help?

    Contact me.

    Pass the word! 🙂

    Penny Bright

    Media Spokesperson
    Water Pressure Group
    Judicially recognised ‘Public Watchdog’ on Metrowater, water, Auckland regional governance matters.
    “Anti-corruption campaigner”.
    Attendee: Australian Public Sector Anti-Corruption Conference 2009.
    Attendee: Transparency International 14th International Anti-Corruption Conference 2010
    Auckland Mayoral candidate 2010

    [email deleted]

    • OleOlebiscuitBarrell 8.1

      But, according to Transparency International, we are already the least corrupt country in the world.

      http://www.infoplease.com/world/statistics/2007-transparency-international-corruption-perceptions.html

      It’s like starting a group to address the lack of appreciation of Rugby Union Football in New Zealand.

      • Pascal's bookie 8.1.1

        http://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/140144/shock-nz-corruption-level

        A global survey has revealed an “alarming” level of corruption in New Zealand, with 4% of respondents admitting to paying a bribe in the past year.

        Transparency International’s (TI) 2010 survey also showed that 73% New Zealanders thought corruption had increased over the past three years.

        The level of bribery uncovered in the survey was significantly worse than countries we usually compare well against, with 2% of Australian respondents admitting to paying a bribe in the past year and 1% percent of Britons.

        No respondents in Denmark admitted to paying a bribe.

        The results of the Global Corruption Barometer were in stark contrast with TI’s Corruption Perceptions Index, released in October, in which New Zealand retained the top spot for having the lowest perceived level of corruption in the public sector.

        TI’s New Zealand director, Alex Tan, said the results of the survey, which included New Zealand for the first time, were “alarming” and showed we needed to be vigilant in the fight against corruption.

        “This is truly an alarming result but, in some ways, not surprising. We have traditionally tended to rest on our laurels and think we are above corruption and bribery practices which are commonplace in the rest of the world,” Mr Tan said.

        Other results of the survey include that respondents thought political parties, followed by Parliament, were the most corrupt institutions.

      • burt 8.1.2

        We are retrospectively the least corrupt country in the world – easily done when you have the fastest law makers in the west, no formal constitution, and anything goes to kill off court cases when the dear leader is involved.

        Remember the Labour party inquiry that exonerated Taito Field – then remember what was it – 26 charges of corruption ?

        All the MPs need to remember is never threaten to stand as an independent and our least corrupt country rating is secure.

    • burt 8.2

      Penny Bright

      Great cause, it should find favour on this site while National are in power.

  9. prism 9

    Heard Hon Hekia Parata new Minister for Women’s advancement speak this morning. So fashionably right wing and neo lib. All people are defined by their participation in the economy I think she said. So those who aren’t participating in paid employment aren’t real people, have no value in society, aren’t deserving of respect and consideration etc?

    Another pollie – Dunne – this morning said that the IRD workers in Greymouth wanted certainty about their jobs ie whether they had one so that’s why he has announced 50%? cuts before Christmas. Today’s version of the old saying that there’s two certainties in life, death and taxes, is to add that under NACT there’s a certainty of fewer tax workers and more taxes on everyone but the rich. And the tax working party happily hands out their Christmas wish list – more GST. Anyone would think we were a wealthy country like Switzerland that had and probably still has very high spending tax and well-heeled society. (Apart from the gastarbeiten perhaps).

  10. Response to OleOlebiscuitBarrell

    FYI – I attended the Transparency International 14th International Anti-Corruption Conference held in Bangkok 10 – 13 November 2010.

    I suggested that Transparency International consider moving from a measurement of corruption based on ‘perception’ to one based upon reality.

    To assist – I widely distributed amongst the 1200 international delegates – the following:

    CORRUPTION REALITY CHECKLIST – NEW ZEALAND

    1. Has NZ ratified the UN Convention Against Corruption ? NO

    2. Does NZ have an independent anti-corruption body tasked with educating the
    public and PREVENTING corruption? NO

    3. Do NZ ‘s laws ensure transparency in the funding of candidates for elected public office and political parties at central government level ? NO

    4. Do NZ Members of Parliament have a ‘Code of Conduct’? NO

    5. Do NZ Local Govt elected reps have a ‘Code of Conduct’? YES

    6. Is it an offence for NZ Local Govt elected reps to breach the ‘Code of Conduct’? NO
    7. Is there a lawful requirement for a publicly-available ‘Register of Interests’ for NZ Local Govt elected reps? NO

    8. Is there a lawful requirement for a publicly-available ‘Register of Interests’ for NZ Central Govt staff responsible for procurement? NO

    9. Is there a lawful requirement for a publicly-available ‘Register of Interests’ for NZ Local Govt staff responsible for procurement? NO

    10. Is there a lawful requirement for details of ‘contracts issued’ – including the name of the contractor; scope, term and value of the contract to be published in NZ Central Govt Public Sector, and Local Govt (Council) Annual Reports so that they are available for public scrutiny? NO

    11. Is it a lawful requirement that a ‘cost-benefit analysis’ of NZ Central Govt public finances be undertaken to substantiate that private procurement of public services previously provided ‘in-house’ is cost-effective for the public majority? NO

    12. Is it a lawful requirement that a ‘cost-benefit analysis’ of NZ Local Govt public finances be undertaken to substantiate that private procurement of public services previously provided ‘in-house’ is cost-effective for the public majority? NO

    13. Does NZ have a legally-enforcable ‘Code of Conduct’ for members of the NZ Judiciary? NO
    14. Are all NZ Court proceedings recorded, and audio records made available to parties who request them? NO

    15. Is there a lawful requirement for a publicly-available NZ Judicial ‘Register of Interests’? NO

    16. Is there a lawful requirement for a publicly-available NZ ‘Register of Lobbyists’ at Central Govt Ministerial level? NO

    17. Is there a legal requirement at NZ Central and Local Govt level for a ‘post-separation employment quarantine ‘ period, from the time officials leave the public service to take up a similar role in the private sector? NO

    18. Is it a lawful requirement that it is only a binding vote of the public majority that can determine whether public assets held at NZ Central Govt or Local Govt level are sold; or long-term leased via Public-Private –Partnerships? NO

    19. Is it unlawful in NZ for politicians to knowingly misrepresent their policies prior to election at central or local government level? NO

    20. Do NZ laws promote and protect individuals, NGOs and community-based organisations who are ‘whistleblowing’ against ‘conflicts of interest’ and corrupt practices at central and local govt level and within the judiciary? NO

    Prepared by Penny Bright –for Transparency International 14th Conference 7/11/2010
    IACC ID D – 1198 http://waterpressure.wordpress.com

    Interested in feedback on this one.

    Any thoughts on additions / alterations/ improvements?

    It’s a ‘work in progress’ ……

    Pretty incredible though for NZ the ‘least corrupt country in the world’?

    Cheers!

    Penny

    • grumpy 10.1

      Well, consider it a test of lack of corruption in New Zealand and freedom of political expression that you are not in jail or disappeared as would have happened in some of the countries much admired on these pages.

  11. O2B 11

    As a fairly new reader of The Standard, I just want to thank everyone that contributes positively on this site. I’m left-leaning individual – always have been – but sites such as this reaffirms my beliefs in the left and suspicions of the right.

    I am frankly disgusted by this current government and will be reminding my friends and family over Christmas when I head back home that they do have a choice, and next year they can choose a different form of government if they’re not satisfied. Despite being in a higher tax bracket myself, the fact this government seems hell bent in disenfranchising those who are not better off, while time and time again are lining the pockets of their own.

    I never wanted a tax cut. I don’t want ‘choices’ in who is providing my ACC. I can’t see any benefit in building a holiday highway north of Auckland as opposed to an inner city rail loop. I also can’t see how a cycleway will create ‘sustainable’ jobs. But I do want to live in a society that is inclusive and everyone has a right to feel that life isn’t a struggle.

    National may have individuals that are very good at making money but are hopeless in running a country. They are destroying the fabric of our communities in the name of big business. The sooner this lot are out of power the better.

    KB

  12. joe90 12

    Disturbing news that deep sea up-wellings may be the cause of melting Antarctic ice.

    THE GIST

    * Oceans have been hiding a lot of Earth’s warming by burying it in the deep sea.
    * The deep waters are now surfacing and melting ice on the Western Antarctic Peninsula.
    * The trend means that we’re already locked into long term melting and sea level rise.

  13. Deadly_NZ 13

    yes welcome to the free speech place…

    Now as to the state of the economy and the world. the last time things got so bad the politicians had themselves a world war.. That was fought by the disenfranchised and generally ne’er do wells and the poor. the rich just sat back and sold guns and bombs and what ever to each other and after 5 years they figured the population had been sufficiently culled, not many poor left to moan. thos that did were called commies and jailed. And the fat cats looked upon the destruction as said it was good, as they were going to get even richer rebuilding the infrastructure to thier idea of a free world.

    And the poor were left out in the cold
    Hmmmm sound familiar?

    nostradamus says the world will end in 2012 lets hope he meant the bigwigs and fatcats will get their come uppance but again i doubt it.

    Cynical???

    Who me?

  14. prism 15

    Sunday 19Dec 8 am RadioNZ Nigel Sterling et al on Chris Laidlaw’s show – talking about our currency. Any discussion on this is welcome I think, and too rare.

  15. gobsmacked 16

    RIP Tom Newnham

    http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/64371/human-rights-campaigner-tom-newnham-dies

    Time and again Tom stood up for justice, against the prevailing conservatism and prejudices of the time. And history says: he won. His causes moved from minority to mainstream – who now defends sporting ties to apartheid South Africa? But that change in public opinion didn’t happen automatically – it was thanks to the tireless efforts of people like Tom Newnham.

    Quietly determined, courteous and principled, he was an inspiration for all those who campaign for a better society, a better world.

    RIP.

  16. Raymond A Francis 17

    I guess we will not being hearing about Doubledipton anymore
    It was sort of funny but not as funny as Mr Goff’s latest rip off
    By not going back into his own flat he was able to legally rip us all off
    “For his superanuation” don’t make me laugh this man is on the gold standard super

    • Pascal's bookie 17.1

      Raymond,

      The way Goff did it, he was entitled to the subsidy.

      If Goff sold the flat, he would still be entitled to the subsidy.

      If he moved back into the flat, he would still be entitled to the subsidy.

      This is because Goff lives in Auckland in a way that English doesn’t live in Dipton.

      • just saying 17.1.1

        “If he moved back into the flat, he would still be entitled to the subsidy.”

        Actually no, it is highly unlikely he would be able to claim anything like the full subsidy. He would no longer be able to claim rent, which would probably make up the bulk of his expenses claim. Let’s face it, in moving out of his apartment he was “arranging his affairs” to maximise the taxpayer subsidy. That’s probably what prompted him to announce that he would sell it.

        But it must be said that Double-dipton’s rort was far worse. He lied about where he lived in order to steal $1,000 per week from taxpayers.

        That neither contravened Parliament’s rules says a lot about the rules, the rule-makers and the rule enforcers.

        • prism 17.1.1.1

          Just saying – Your comment is mostly assumption – you don’t know what Goff had in mind so why would you say the following –

          Let’s face it, in moving out of his apartment he was “arranging his affairs” to maximise the taxpayer subsidy. That’s probably what prompted him to announce that he would sell it.

          And if what he does is the best thing for him financially, then he is a sensible, practical, ethical man following the rules for housing, and a sight better than the NACT busyboys rushing around importantly demolishing society and the economy.

          • just saying 17.1.1.1.1

            True prism, it is supposition. However, Goff promised to sell the apartment which suggests he may have felt guilty about it.

            How exactly does doing the best thing for himself financially make him a “sensible, practical, ethical man” as opposed to say, looking out for number one at the expense of the taxpayer.

            • prism 17.1.1.1.1.1

              tc Sorry just got back. What do you mean by this?

              looking out for number one at the expense of the taxpayer.

              We need to pay our government members for their task, and assist them with their reasonable expenses incurred. Otherwise we will get governments drawn only from the wealthy. Also it is a Job which we expect to be done well, and they deserve to be recompensed for this or if not done well, questioned about their effectiveness not personally harrassed by unreasonable citizens.

              MPs who can run their financial affairs effectively and correctly demonstrate that they are capable to least that level. One hopes that will continue along the line of other attributes needed.

              Just because Goff said he thought he would sell his flat when he didn’t have to, doesn’t mean he can’t change his mind. As I understand the regs he Does Not have to sell any of his investment properties, if he has more than one, whether they are in Wellington or elsewhere.

    • gobsmacked 17.2

      There’s already a thread for that. This one’s for grown-ups.

      (edit – to Raymond, not PB)

    • lprent 17.3

      There is rather a difference.

      Goff works in Wellington but his family are resident in Auckland.

      DoubleDipton lives and works in Wellington, his kids go to school there, his wife works there. But somehow he claimed that he lived in Dipton when all of the evidence is contrary.

      Perhaps you’d care to explain how the two cases are anyway similar? Personally I suspect that any answer you come up with is going to be quite funny and I’ll have fun tearing it apart to expose the inherent stupidity
      when I have time.

      • O2B 17.3.1

        1prent – exactly my sentiments. A totally different situation for Goff. I like to hear other responses from RWNJs on this, other that ‘ohhh… it’s not a good look…. he said he was going to sell…’

        Getting the taxpayer to pay for a house for you to live in permanently already while claiming an out of town accomodation allowance – now that’s a rort.

  17. Deadly_NZ 18

    I see that least corrupt thing list was in 2007 what will it be now??? most corrupt after the USA

  18. Draco T Bastard 19

    Electricity prices set to rise next year

    The Domestic Energy Users’ Network says the wholesale price for electricity increased from 8.5 cents per kilowatt hour on December 1 to 23 cents per kilowatt hour two days ago.

    Wasn’t NACTs changes to the power companies supposed to keep prices down? Seems that they failed spectacularly with power almost tripling in price.

    • O2B 19.1

      Draco – at least Max Bradford has provided us with ‘choices’. Have to love the spirit of competition and the efficiency of private enterprise.

  19. Latest Roy Morgan Labour up 2 to 35%, National down 2.5 to 48.5%.

    7% swing still needed but getting better …

    • The Voice of Reason 20.1

      Not a seven point swing, surely? 53.5 blue (and partners) vs 46.5 red (and others) means 4 pts would do the trick. An early xmas pressy for ACT, I suspect, with Key gone if Rodders isn’t Epsom’s MP next election. Winnie steady on 3, without doing anything, really. It’s getting kinda interesting, particularly if the Nats continue to piss off more and more sections of society with their unco policy making and lose more and more MP’s to personal corruption.

      • Mickysavage 20.1.1

        TVOR

        Right you are. I am thinking major party but with greens looking good and ACT looking terminal there is a decent chance of a centre left Government next time.

        • The Voice of Reason 20.1.1.1

          Lab/Green minority Government with confidence and supply support from Winston or the Maori party? Lab/Winston First with Greens and/or the MP support?

          Given that Peters would still be an MP if it wasn’t for National, I think he’d put aside his objections to the Greens for the chance to dance on John Key’s political grave. And some of the sting has gone out of the Maori Party, too. No more HC, no more F&S. So, yeah, I reckon Key’s Xmas trip to Honolulu in 2012 may turn into a permanent vacation.

  20. Deadly_NZ 21

    This must come under the heading of WTF

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/4467684/Hotchin-says-1000-a-week-not-enough

    I am lucky if I have 400 bucks a week for me ,my partner and a 15 year old walking stomach

    These Pricks just live in LALA land they should have given this rip off prick a boot up the arse not a grand a week..

    • higherstandard 21.1

      the solution is simple…… he should die so his corpse could be fed to the pigs, then I could have him as a Xmas ham……. yummy

      • lprent 21.1.1

        With a nice Chianti and Lima beans?

        Ummm is it is characteristic what happens to those obsessed by a “higher standards”. Like Lecter, They start eating the ‘perfect food’ (and ancillary bugs)

        • jcuknz 21.1.1.1

          The trouble is that us lower folk simply don’t know how expensive it is to run a household which needs a four car garage, swimming pool etc.

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  • Celebrating the Entry Into Force of the Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons
    [Opening comments, welcome and thank you to Auckland University etc] It is a great pleasure to be here this afternoon to celebrate such an historic occasion - the entry into force of the Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons. This is a moment many feared would never come, but ...
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    11 hours ago
  • Supporting disabled people to stay connected
    The Government is providing $3 million in one-off seed funding to help disabled people around New Zealand stay connected and access support in their communities, Minister for Disability Issues, Carmel Sepuloni announced today. The funding will allow disability service providers to develop digital and community-based solutions over the next two ...
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    15 hours ago
  • Voluntary saliva testing offered to quarantine workers from Monday
    Border workers in quarantine facilities will be offered voluntary daily COVID-19 saliva tests in addition to their regular weekly testing, COVID-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins said today. This additional option will be rolled out at the Jet Park Quarantine facility in Auckland starting on Monday 25 January, and then to ...
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    18 hours ago
  • Next steps in firearms buy-back
    The next steps in the Government’s ambitious firearms reform programme to include a three-month buy-back have been announced by Police Minister Poto Williams today.  “The last buy-back and amnesty was unprecedented for New Zealand and was successful in collecting 60,297 firearms, modifying a further 5,630 firearms, and collecting 299,837 prohibited ...
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    19 hours ago
  • New Public Housing Plan announced
    The Government has released its Public Housing Plan 2021-2024 which outlines the intention of where 8,000 additional public and transitional housing places announced in Budget 2020, will go. “The Government is committed to continuing its public house build programme at pace and scale. The extra 8,000 homes – 6000 public ...
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    2 days ago
  • Prime Minister congratulates President Joe Biden on his inauguration
    Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has congratulated President Joe Biden on his inauguration as the 46th President of the United States of America. “I look forward to building a close relationship with President Biden and working with him on issues that matter to both our countries,” Jacinda Ardern said. “New Zealand ...
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    2 days ago
  • Jobs for Nature funding will create training and employment opportunities
    A major investment to tackle wilding pines in Mt Richmond will create jobs and help protect the area’s unique ecosystems, Biosecurity Minister Damien O’Connor says. The Mt Richmond Forest Park has unique ecosystems developed on mineral-rich geology, including taonga plant species found nowhere else in the country. “These special plant ...
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    4 days ago
  • Pre-departure testing extended to all passengers to New Zealand
    To further protect New Zealand from COVID-19, the Government is extending pre-departure testing to all passengers to New Zealand except from Australia, Antarctica and most Pacific Islands, COVID-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins said today. “The change will come into force for all flights arriving in New Zealand after 11:59pm (NZT) on Monday ...
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    4 days ago
  • Bay Cadets learn skills to protect environment
    Bay Conservation Cadets launched with first intake Supported with $3.5 million grant Part of $1.245b Jobs for Nature programme to accelerate recover from Covid Cadets will learn skills to protect and enhance environment Environment Minister David Parker today welcomed the first intake of cadets at the launch of the Bay ...
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    5 days ago
  • Cook Islanders to resume travel to New Zealand
    The Prime Minister of New Zealand Jacinda Ardern and the Prime Minister of the Cook Islands Mark Brown have announced passengers from the Cook Islands can resume quarantine-free travel into New Zealand from 21 January, enabling access to essential services such as health. “Following confirmation of the Cook Islands’ COVID ...
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    1 week ago
  • Supporting communities and landowners to grow employment opportunities
    Jobs for Nature funding is being made available to conservation groups and landowners to employ staff and contractors in a move aimed at boosting local biodiversity-focused projects, Conservation Minister Kiritapu Allan has announced. It is estimated some 400-plus jobs will be created with employment opportunities in ecology, restoration, trapping, ...
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    1 week ago
  • Border exception for some returning international tertiary students
    The Government has approved an exception class for 1000 international tertiary students, degree level and above, who began their study in New Zealand but were caught offshore when border restrictions began. The exception will allow students to return to New Zealand in stages from April 2021. “Our top priority continues ...
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    1 week ago
  • Tiwai deal gives time for managed transition
    Today’s deal between Meridian and Rio Tinto for the Tiwai smelter to remain open another four years provides time for a managed transition for Southland. “The deal provides welcome certainty to the Southland community by protecting jobs and incomes as the region plans for the future. The Government is committed ...
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    1 week ago
  • New member for APEC Business Advisory Council
    Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has appointed Anna Curzon to the APEC Business Advisory Council (ABAC). The leader of each APEC economy appoints three private sector representatives to ABAC. ABAC provides advice to leaders annually on business priorities. “ABAC helps ensure that APEC’s work programme is informed by business community perspectives ...
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    1 week ago
  • Govt’s careful economic management recognised
    The Government’s prudent fiscal management and strong policy programme in the face of the COVID-19 global pandemic have been acknowledged by the credit rating agency Fitch. Fitch has today affirmed New Zealand’s local currency rating at AA+ with a stable outlook and foreign currency rating at AA with a positive ...
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    1 week ago
  • Additional actions to keep COVID-19 out of NZ
    The Government is putting in place a suite of additional actions to protect New Zealand from COVID-19, including new emerging variants, COVID-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins said today. “Given the high rates of infection in many countries and evidence of the global spread of more transmissible variants, it’s clear that ...
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    2 weeks ago
  • 19 projects will clean up and protect waterways
    $36 million of Government funding alongside councils and others for 19 projects Investment will clean up and protect waterways and create local jobs Boots on the ground expected in Q2 of 2021 Funding part of the Jobs for Nature policy package A package of 19 projects will help clean up ...
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    2 weeks ago
  • New Zealand Government acknowledges 175th anniversary of Battle of Ruapekapeka
    The commemoration of the 175th anniversary of the Battle of Ruapekapeka represents an opportunity for all New Zealanders to reflect on the role these conflicts have had in creating our modern nation, says Associate Minister for Arts, Culture and Heritage Kiri Allan. “The Battle at Te Ruapekapeka Pā, which took ...
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    2 weeks ago
  • Better care for babies with tongue-tie
    Babies born with tongue-tie will be assessed and treated consistently under new guidelines released by the Ministry of Health, Associate Minister of Health Dr Ayesha Verrall announced today. Around 5% to 10% of babies are born with a tongue-tie, or ankyloglossia, in New Zealand each year. At least half can ...
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    3 weeks ago
  • Prisoner disorder event at Waikeria Prison over
    The prisoner disorder event at Waikeria Prison is over, with all remaining prisoners now safely and securely detained, Corrections Minister Kelvin Davis says. The majority of those involved in the event are members of the Mongols and Comancheros. Five of the men are deportees from Australia, with three subject to ...
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    3 weeks ago
  • Pre-departure COVID-19 test for travellers from the UK and the US from 15 January
    Travellers from the United Kingdom or the United States bound for New Zealand will be required to get a negative test result for COVID-19 before departing, and work is underway to extend the requirement to other long haul flights to New Zealand, COVID-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins confirmed today. “The new PCR test requirement, foreshadowed last ...
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    3 weeks ago