Open mike 19/12/2012

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1. Enough is Enough 1

   19 December 2012 at 9:57 am

   Another fantastic legacy of Helen Clark…Her involvement in the bid and commitment to the tournament is what got us this event and its enduring legacy.

   http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/8096698/NZ-keeps-on-winning-from-RWC-report

   Key…well he ummmm fucked up a hand shake

   • tc 1.1

     19 December 2012 at 10:16 am

     I’m dissapointed that so much infrastructure was temporary and removed after the WC. Some Train stations have been revamped up to 3 times in the last 2-3 years FFS !
     IMO RWC missed an opportunity to solve the eden park issue. Mallard’s an idiot on most issues but a waterfront stadium was and still is a good idea rather than a crappy largely open stadium in the suburbs in an inclement weather city.
     Key and McCully etc only had to get the fanzone sorted and made a meal of that.

   • Rodel 1.2

     19 December 2012 at 8:14 pm

      What a load of meaningless….twaddle”…..Has someone in this govt. department got an American or French  degree in post modernism b***sh*t?
     Not that keen on economists per- se but at least some of them from universities are providing some criticism of the report.
     Be nice to see some other university types standing up to the BS so prevalent in our society today.
      e.g.
     ‘…..”An understanding of the planning and operational excellence required to deliver major events is now embedded within government and the wider sports community,” the report said…….
      
     While attendance forecasts had been met and visitor forecasts surpassed, it remained to be seen how the World Cup performed against economic forecasts in the longer term.
      
     “The economic impact of large sports events can be difficult to quantify as it is calculated on the basis of money spent that would not have been otherwise,” the report said……..’
      
      Enough said
      
      

   • muzza 1.3

     19 December 2012 at 9:17 pm

     Maybe read to the bottom of the article…

     This is a load of BS spin, nothing else!

2. Bill 2

   19 December 2012 at 9:58 am

   Verification of membership has just arrived in the post this morning. Looking forward to what’s coming next 🙂

   • marsman 2.1

     19 December 2012 at 10:13 am

     Ditto here.

   • just saying 2.2

     19 December 2012 at 10:22 am

     Got mine earlier this week.  Had to laugh when I received an identical envelope in the same post with my first request for money from the Labour Party.
      
     There’s something strange about becoming a member just as the party reaches what I sincerely hope will be its nadir.  Do we phone the LEC rep and introduce ourselves or what?  I’m pretty sure meetings are a thing of the past.  Will be interesting to see how this party operates.

     • Te Reo Putake 2.2.1

       19 December 2012 at 10:30 am

       Your branch and/or LEC secretary will be notified, js. Most meetings are over for the year, but I would expect you will be invite to pop along to the first event next year. It would be great if you joined Victory for Labour; its a regular donation that also covers your annual dues and, in part, funds your branch.

       • just saying 2.2.1.1

         19 December 2012 at 10:50 am

         Are many attending meetings around the country TRP? In general obviously.

         • Napkins 2.2.1.1.1

           19 December 2012 at 5:55 pm

           Depends hugely on where you are, the history of the local branches, and the leadership from the MP involved.
           Interested in your first impressions.

     • Mary 2.2.2

       19 December 2012 at 11:26 am

       I think it’s way too early to become a member of the Labour Party when there’s no evidence that they’ve ditched their right-wing welfare stance on welfare. Annette King and Jacinda Ardern and the rest of Labour have for a very long time been deadly silent on where they see their welfare policies going. Ardern bleats on about National’s “attacks” on beneficiaries but then refuses to say what Labour would do differently. The same thing happened after the Richardson/Shipley tag team did a job on beneficiaries throughout the 1990s. Labour protested loudly then turned around and carried on with precisely the same agenda as National. Even now Ardern’s managed to get Bennett to take yet another slice off one of the add-on benefits the transition to work grant while her leader thinks he’s a doctor qualified to say there are people who shouldn’t get a sickness benefit because they look like they’re able to work. Far from being “rejuvenated” and “fresh” all the signs are there for it being yet another continuation of National’s assault on the poor, in the same way that happened between 1999 and 2008. Who wants to be a member of a party that does that? And why the hell are we still trusting them?

       Sue Bradford’s done a good piece here that talks about Labour’s handywork on our social security system:

       http://pundit.co.nz/blogs/sue-bradford

   • Anne 2.3

     19 December 2012 at 9:30 pm

     Looking forward to what’s coming next.

     A letter from President, Moira Coatsworth asking for money that’s what.

     I note she talks about an unforgettable conference. I’ll say it was unforgettable. 😡

     Edit: I see just saying has already told you.

     • lprent 2.3.1

       20 December 2012 at 7:32 am

       Just check where the money is going. I am quite happy to support the party organisation financially and that is where a lot of the donation money goes to these days.

       • higherstandard 2.3.1.1

         20 December 2012 at 7:44 am

         I thought you had gone green…… your political party affiliation seems to be all over the place like a hippo’s shit.

3. mickysavage 3

   19 December 2012 at 10:24 am

   What is it about leaders of conservative parties and their refusal to read things which are politically damaging.
    
   The Federal Court in Australia has released a judgment heavily criticising members of the Liberal Party and how the court process was abused to get at former speaker Peter Slipper.
    
   Abbott has been asked what he thinks about it and has replied by saying he has not read the judgment.
    
   See no evil, hear no evil …

4. fisiani 4

   19 December 2012 at 10:59 am

   http://www.theedge.co.nz/John-Key-in-studio-with-Jay-Jay-Mike–Dom/tabid/106/articleID/24882/Default.aspx

   For those who dont know why John Key is the most popular PM in NZ history

   • Enough is Enough 4.1

     19 December 2012 at 11:08 am

     Helen was way more popular you fool.

     Labour leader for how long?

     Prime Minister for how long?

     Would have won in 2008 if it wasn’t for the corrupt MSM and the promises of interest free loans from John Key to media works

   • Rosie 4.2

     19 December 2012 at 11:22 am

     You’re always good for a laugh fisiani.

     3 seconds into that clip and I was reaching for the sick bucket.

     But you know, like attracts like as they say. Only a total tard would listen to “the edge” and only a total tard would vote shonkey. Our glorious nation eh?

     Try listening to some actual independant music stations and see how much key is lampooned on an almost daily basis

   • Tazireviper 4.3

     19 December 2012 at 3:36 pm

     And this wanker(fucktard) is our Prime minister, at 8.12 in he refers to Kevin Rudd as an opposition MP in Australia, BTW if you can watch it that far in, keep vomit buckets handy
      

5. Adrian 5

   19 December 2012 at 11:28 am

   Shit like this morning effort makes me cringe to be a Kiwi. You’re a Prime Minister for fucks sake, grow up and exhibit some gravitas.

   • Logie97 5.1

     19 December 2012 at 12:19 pm

     Apparently Dunnokeyo’s memory returned this morning when he specifically recalled eating maggots the last time he was on the Edge.  It was the hosts who had the brainfade this time and couldn’t remember.  (Wonder if it was from eating dead rats?)

   • NoseViper (The Nose knows) 5.2

     19 December 2012 at 6:10 pm

     Don’t moan abut the quality or not of Key.  It seems that every second PM or leader that I hear about has been on the take or should be a busker.   I think recently, Greece, France has had some doozeys, the USA always has some unbelievable, Italy has laid down the red carpet for a media magnate who seems to be on monkey glands, etc.  
     We never try to achieve highly for ourselves these days, just keep comparing us to overseas choosing the lowest.   We don’t know how lucky we are – compared to Syria?

6. Dv 6

   19 December 2012 at 11:47 am

   Well well well, look at this.
   http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/8099165/Education-secretary-set-to-quit

   How boring if they get some one who is half competent.

   • Logie97 6.1

     19 December 2012 at 12:05 pm

     Current education policy is  a train wreck – Key appointed Tolley who appointed Longstone to carry out NACT agenda.  And Key will probably come out of this squeaky clean… 
     And Longstone will carry the can for the new pay system as well …

     • Northshoreguynz 6.1.1

       19 December 2012 at 12:21 pm

       http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10855074
       Will Parata do the decent thing? I am suspecting not. Despite Longstone doing her masters bidding, no shit can stick to a minister of this govt.

       • Morrissey 6.1.1.1

         19 December 2012 at 1:25 pm

         The longer she stays the more the support for this regime will crumble.

7. veutoviper 7

   19 December 2012 at 11:53 am

   Well, here is one report that Key and Co probably would have liked to go “under the radar” over the silly season – but has now been delayed. It is short so will quote it in full

   An Auditor General's report into the Government's handling of a proposal for Sky City to build an international convention centre in exchange for more pokie machines has been delayed until next year.

   The Office of the Auditor General had previously announced it hoped to release the report before Christmas but now says it will not be published this year.

   It said draft copies of the report had been sent to relevant interested parties in December 12. It had previously hoped to get their response and be in a position to finalise the report quickly.

   But it appears the consultation process – expected to include Sky City, other bidders and the Prime Minister and Minister of Economic Development – is taking longer than expected.

   "Although we and the other parties involved are working to complete the report as soon as possible, we can now advise that it will not be published this year. No further comment will be provided at this stage; media and interested parties will be notified of publication 24 hours in advance.’’

   http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/8094626/Pokies-for-convention-centre-report-delayed

   The article is "lost' in the bowels of Stuff online, so thanks to Robert Winter's post "Rebstock, and now the pokies?" for the link.

   And a big thanks to lprent for the Feeds column now on TS – I am finding it a great source for posts elsewhere and links such as to this article that I would otherwise miss.

   • veutoviper 7.1

     19 December 2012 at 12:07 pm

     Update: another little bit on this from Stuff’s ‘Today in Politics’ article today:

     SkyCity convention centre report delayed till new year

     The Auditor-General’s Office has put on the backburner the publication of a report into the process that led to SkyCity winning the right to build a convention centre. Last week it sent a draft to “relevant interested parties” for consultation and said it hoped to publish the final version this year.

     But yesterday it said it had postponed it until next year, prompting speculation it included adverse findings that had caused one party to “push back”.

     Surprise, surprise!

     PS – bold is mine.

   • lprent 7.2

     19 December 2012 at 1:58 pm

     …the Feeds column now on TS – I am finding it a great source for posts elsewhere and links such as to this article that I would otherwise miss

     No problem. I actually stuck it there mostly for myself for exactly that reason

8. Tim 8

   19 December 2012 at 12:16 pm

   Stuff headline:
   Education Boss quits……..
   Will we hear of incompetence OR of Ministerial interference from a complete control freak in the days to come?

9. NoseViper (The Nose knows) 9

   19 December 2012 at 12:59 pm

   Women health workers in Pakistan killed by taleban for giving polio vaccinations. The cruellers shot one person on the excuse that they were trying to kill off the nation with western disease.

   In the USA the religious tie up foreign aid so they can’t have contraceptives or condoms and not abortions. 50% apparently believe that the age of the earth is under a million years.

   I don’t see how we can ever get an informed enlightened world where there is such wilful ignorance and domination of education and truth.

10. blue leopard 10

    19 December 2012 at 1:13 pm

    A foundation to enable Freedom of the Press has been set up:

    https://www.pressfreedomfoundation.org/blog/2012/12/freedom-press-foundation-established-crowd-fund-transparency-journalism

    and an article about the foundation:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/daniel-ellsberg/wikileaks-funding_b_2313376.html?utm_hp_ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false

11. The Pink Postman 11

    19 December 2012 at 4:45 pm

    I wonder how many off you watched the “Secret of the Manor Born ” on Prime.
    Now my first years of work was under those conditions , low wages and the class system in full force and woe betide any one who stepped out of line.
    At its end we all thought it would never return unfortunately we are returning to those
    awful conditions. .We have returned to the huge gap between rich and poor. A return to servants and home help at low wages . Unions have lost any strength and workers are unorganized.
    This is the result of Conservative Right Wing governments. And unless working people wake up the
    the gap,will,widen further

    • Rosie 11.1

      19 December 2012 at 5:24 pm

      Hello PP. Was that show on last week, thursday at 8.30pm?

      • The Pink Postman 11.1.1

        20 December 2012 at 3:06 pm

        Sure was Rosie .How the hell was there not a Revolution. It only strengthened
        my hatred of Tories. And I’m a mild sort off person..

    • Draco T Bastard 11.2

      19 December 2012 at 5:47 pm

      This one?

      • Rosie 11.2.1

        19 December 2012 at 8:33 pm

        Yes, thats the one thanks DTB.

        Watching this I couldn’t help but feel saddened thinking of the generations of workers rights that have been really hard won, including lives lost in the struggle, that have now almost disappeared – when we think of where we are now. Have also been watching History of Wales and History of Scotland lately. Both series covered the industrial revolution and the impact it had on the working populations of those Countries in terms of their health and social and political outcomes: the coal mines of Wales and the steel yards of Scotland. Seems we turned a full wheel of the political and market spectrum and here we are again without jobs and the jobs we have can sometimes be unsafe and life threatening. (Think modern day mining around the globe and even here at Pike River) Perhaps there is a return to the past PP. Its the same masters in charge.

        And heres another report from the International Labor Rights Forum on modern day company knowledge of unsafe work conditions and the lack of attempt to remedy it, or even provide the basics of a safe and healthy workplace, let alone decent wages and conditions.

        http://laborrights.org/sites/default/files/publications-and-resources/Deadly_Secrets.pdf

12. Morrissey 12

    19 December 2012 at 7:12 pm

    Whither Populuxe1?
    Mass Murder Advocate Fails to Front His Critics

    I note with some concern that poor old Populuxe1 has failed to surface after being keel-hauled by all and sundry yesterday.

    I can see four possible explanations for his failure to mount an argument in defence of himself and his outlandish statement on Open Mike:

    1.) He lacks the wherewithal to mount a coherent argument;

    2.) He is “on leave”, a la the Rt. Hon. Hekia Parata;

    3.) He is licking his wounds and preparing for an AWESOME comeback, where he sprays around even more awesomely absurd epithets;

    4.) In his shame and desperation, the poor oaf has actually shown some courage and taken the time-honored option, viz. …..
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bc/Giotto_-_Scrovegni_-_-47-_-_Desperation.jpg

    Conoisseurs of the bizarre and deranged can peruse the poor chap’s comment by clicking here….

    Open mike 18/12/2012

13. Neoleftie 13

    19 December 2012 at 7:23 pm

    Intesingly red alert isn’t being moderatated to the same degree these days…love live CV.
    Maybe they should unban everyone and start again.

14. lprent 14

    19 December 2012 at 11:22 pm

    Disabled the wysiwyg comments for a few days as it was popping up on everyone’s replies.

    I have to look at the versions of tinyMCE running on here now…

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