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Open Mike 21/11/2017

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  1. eco maori 1

    If They try an pin that on me people any more than personal its a setup they have all the means to plant my personal property anywere I have given them to many RED FACES .
    Which is what Te Kooti did to them but Te Kooti did not have this 21 century communication device that puts my story out to the WORLD Ka pai and they put a bounty on his capture of $600.000
    they made sure he was not killed because all Maori would have risen up an well you no what the out come of that would have been my tepuna Rapata Wahawaha was coned into assisting them in the chase and war in the Urewera’s . I would like to see Te Kootis words on his story I’m not sure If this is out there.
    I agree that a lot of the beggars are on crack I can spot a crack head easy as crack is a human wasting substance don’t give them money give the money to some outfit that gives these people rehabilitation . This is Keys legacy homeless crackheads and a chronic crack problem and the talk is more about the houses that have traces of crack than all the people affected by this crap this shit is the flow up of money to some very bad people in NZ. My words on the weekend must have really got up there nose A because they were going hard yesterday but they can go and get ________ what do they expect me to do drop off the face of OUR earth well that is not going to happen.
    Many thanks to the winning NZ Ladys Rugby League team Ka pai There is a explanation on the differences between these team I have allready writen about part of this Kia Kaha

    • eco maori 1.1

      I can tell a national supporter they give me the stink eye when they see my Eco Maori signs on my truck ha ha the left supporters smile they are going ahead of me and telling the road workers not to wave and what do the people do well I can SEE.
      I have got to close to there reality with my older post because they backed off today.
      They backed off but they were still present I see all there moves what a waste of resources chasing the Eco Maori . The best thing about my situation is I get to let my people know exactly how OUR system works and this will help them up there ladder of life stop some these kids slipping into jail I.E scared strait and behave like OUR Lady’s do and think before one acts .
      Now all the people with Trust Farms If I was you I would get the farm management to run more stock for meat for you this will not affect the farm profits and will be a big saving to the share holders a extra 5 cows a year they wont even no they are there but make sure you own them get home kill to process the meat the farm killed meat is 10 x better than shop brought meat no fat in the mince and on dairy farm raising pigs is cheap as there is waste milk most time so just get 5 cows 5 pigs and you will be saving big time man average $15 a day on meat for 2 . My brothers and sisters want to raise there own stock I am going to get the farm lessor to raise them for them I have seen inexperienced people try to raise stock an was not impressed this is the work smarter way of doing things. I don’t take smokes to work and my work is getting easy as my lung heal I will be smoke free soon P.S I know whom reading my post. I have to cook tea so byby Kia Kaha

      • eco maori 1.1.1

        So what do I no about OUR law well any bullshit evidence gathered will be inadmissible in a court of law if the law is broken while gathering this bullshit evidence. Kia kaha

  2. Grey Area 2

    After listening to Brownlee on Morning Report I sent the following email to RNZ:

    “It would be good if RNZ realised the “National” in its name doesn’t mean National Party. A lot of air time seems to be being given to the National Party in a way I don’t remember Labour being treated when they were in opposition.

    “Balance, not bias please”.

    I also picked up Brownlee referring to the “minority coalition”. It seems to me the underlying message taken from the attack lines sheet is minority = illegitimate.

    I didn’t hear the former government referring to themselves as a majority coalition.

    • CLEANGREEN 2.1

      100% Grey Area.

      I think RNZ is being used by Natioonal still now as a propaganda tool.

      When is Claire Curran going to get rid of the national cling-ons inside RNZ????

      • james 2.1.1

        So you think staff should be got “rid of” by a government minister because of perceived political viewpoints?

        • KJT

          Didn’t stop National from packing broadcasting with ignorant right wing prats.
          Don’t need to ask them their political views. Just make them pass a “facts” test.

    • ianmac 2.2

      Kelvin Davis was embarrassed by technical questions about the Economy. Had English/Joyce asked say Bennett the same questions, she would have stumbled.
      English wanted the Manus Island refugees discussed so sent an expert Brownlee in his place.
      Do you see? Horses for courses a privilege denied Kelvin.

    • Wayne 2.3

      Generally the media have some regard to the level of support a party has. Between 2014 and 2017 Labour had 25% of the seats in parliament. National now has 45%, and is in fact the largest party in parliament.

      So you can expect, across visually all media outlets, that National will get more coverage in the next three years than Labour had between 2014 and 2017.

      But as far as I see, National is pretty absent at the moment. Virtually all the media focus is on Jacinda. Even the Deputy PM gets virtually no coverage. It is not likely to change till next year, since for the time being Jacinda is having her political honeymoon.

      • Chris 2.3.1

        Hey Wayno! You any relation to Pete George?

      • Bearded Git 2.3.2

        44.4% Wayne

        • Colonial Viper

          After 3 terms of National Government, Labour + Greens achieved a result in 2017 a mere 2.5% higher than the 2008 election.

          That’s a weak start to a new government.

          • North

            “That’s a weak start to a new government”. Care to tell us what you think the percentages you quote actually mean, or will mean, CV ? Without identifying the upshot as you see it it’s not much better than saying it’s not very pretty. So what to that.

            • Colonial Viper

              1) “Jacindamania” has only brought Labour up to a level slightly above Labour’s losing 2008 election result.

              2) This current government in its first term governs with 50.4% of the party vote, only 1.2% more than National’s third term of 49.2% of the party vote

              3) With margins this narrow, the fledgling government has no time to waste in terms of delivering on its promises. It won’t get a second term without clear, fast results.

              There is almost no room for any erosion of its popularity.

              • North

                I’ve forgotten……what’s the balance……two seats 61/59 ? Read some figures somewhere which suggested that National got by with a sometimes 2-3 margin during nine years of retention of power.
                At this point talking percentages and not seats suggests troubling moral concerns. ‘Legitimacy’ and all that. I really get the feeling that you’re champing at the bit to come out with something more definitive of where you stand CV? C’mon bro’…….declare your quirky lefty ‘preferences’.

      • marty mars 2.3.3

        Same old nonsense eh Wayne – I hope no one pays you for that rubbish. The gnats lost, and are still losing – hearts and minds wayne the gnats are clueless lol.

      • Grey Area 2.3.4

        But as far as I see, National is pretty absent at the moment.

        Wayne if you truly think that you need to get out more. On the Manus Island issue alone Brownlee has been given regular opportunities to advise the government to not annoy the Australians, cut them some slack because it’s a complex issue, etc.

        Even the Deputy PM gets virtually no coverage.

        Yes he has had some particularly around his performance answering questions in the House in the absence of of Ardern and Peters.

        Generally the media have some regard to the level of support a party has.

        So how come the ACT “party” gets as much coverage as it does then?

      • Brigid 2.3.5

        “National now has 45%, and is in fact the largest party in parliament.”
        Wayne, I’ll give you some facts.
        Of the 3,569,830 estimated voting age population 92.54 were enrolled to vote.
        Of those enrolled, 19% did not cast a vote.
        Of those who voted 55.6% did not vote for national

        Therefore, of the estimated voting age population of 3,569,830, only 1,152,075 voted for National.
        Wayne, 67.7274548% of the population did not vote for National.
        So it could logically be claimed that only a little over 32% support National.
        That’s about one third, so for every three people you encounter today, or tomorrow, or anytime for the next wee while, only ONE will be a National supporter.
        The figures are all here http://www.elections.org.nz/

        Now that you know this I expect you wont want to show a lack of honesty and integrity by disseminating mis-information again.

        • Wayne


          Your post, while technically correct is nonsense. On the same basis Labour got about 26% of the vote. That is, just over one in FOUR actually support Labour!

          The proper way to look at the vote, is the votes cast. These are the ones that actually determine the composition of parliament and the government. Under MMP it all depends on getting 50% or more of the MP’s in the parliament. Pointing that out is hardly a “lack of honesty and integrity by disseminating mis-information”. It is simply the facts about our parliament. Having an Opposition that is the largest party in parliament will (and should) change the political dynamic.

          Grey Area,

          I am not suggesting the Opposition has had zero coverage, clearly they get some. But apart from the selection of the Speaker, they are not the dominant player in the media.

          In contrast, every day there are two or three articles/newsclips on Jacinda. The Deputy PM, maybe one tor two per week. I am not objecting or complaining. She was inevitably going to get that level of coverage.

          • Brigid

            “Your post, while technically correct is nonsense. ”
            “The proper way……..”

            Behold the arrogance.

            It is only you Wayne, who is comparing National votes with Labour.
            In case you hadn’t noticed the present government comprises a coalition of three parties, Labour being one of them.
            FPP is sooo last century Wayne.

            Do you STILL believe National should be leading the government?

          • CLEANGREEN


            You are technically ‘incorrect’, as we live in a MPP electoral process so get off the old FPP system anmd get over it for gods ake man!!!!!

      • Carolyn_nth 2.3.6

        And yet, Mr 0.1% David Seymour?!

      • Johan 2.3.7

        Hey Wayne, how many honeymoons are the RWNJ allowing Jacinda to have?

    • Whispering Kate 2.4

      Also how many Morning Report listeners have noticed such a huge difference to last week with the fantastic rapport between Kim Hill and John Campbell, they were a star act. Lots of serious stuff went down and also lots of banter and laughter, especially with Giles on the Finance report. Just what us morning listeners want from a morning show.

      If the management of RNZ didn’t take notice of this then they need to be replaced. The ratings would soar through the roof if we had these two stars on. I realise Kim Hill wouldn’t want to do 5 days a week with early starts but surely they could accommodate such a quality act and allow her 2/3 days.

      This morning it was just so dull and dreary that even Philippa Tolley couldn’t rescue it. Espiner needs replacing and quickly. Just my criticisms I know but it would be interesting to know what other TS browsers have to say on this matter.

      • veutoviper 2.4.1

        Yes, last week on Morning Report was excellent and this week is just … dull. Sorry, Guyon just does not have it. Checkpoint last week was also just … dull.

        However, John Campbell made it very clear last week that the early mornings were not him in any way, shape or form so I don’t expert to see him there too often.

        On Friday morning also I woke up c 6.30am to catch a little bit of snark between JC and KH (I was only half awake and did not catch the issue*) and that seemed to temper their rapport for the remainder of the programme.

        So I don’t expect to see a repeat pairing for a while, sadly.

        * Maybe it was this tweet. LOL

        John Campbell‏Verified account
        Nov 14
        John Campbell Retweeted RNZ
        Having had to get up at 3 bloody 45 to participate in this one week switcheroo (an hour so indecent it should be banned), I can now confirm the entire Morning Report team are vampires.

      • Brigid 2.4.2

        I agree entirely. Kim Hill is a national treasure.

      • Chris 2.4.3

        “The ratings would soar through the roof if we had these two stars on.”

        Yes, but RNZ could at least start with your suggestion of axing Espiner. The guy’s got no ability to formulate questions in a way that suits the context. Accordingly he just comes across as a fuckwit.

        • garibaldi

          Chris he always has been a fuckwit. The main problem at natrad is the fuckwits running it. They should have resigned the day after the election, as should so many other political appointees. But oh no, they all want to carry on shafting us until they get an unearned golden handshake. Fuck them and fuck our silly system for letting them do it.

    • Tuppence Shrewsbury 2.5

      And yet the prime ministers boyfriend is on the panel this afternoon? Is that enough “balance” for you?

    • rod 2.6

      Grey Area. please let us all know when you get a reply. Be ready for more spin and bullshit. RNZ obviously think that National are still the Government.

  3. ScottGN 3

    Anyone else hear Gerry Brownlee waffling on about Manus Island on Morning Report this morning?
    He sounded exactly like an ex-minister who no longer gets his talking points from ministry officials before he fronts the media.
    It was particularly amusing when he tried to suggest Ardern should go easy on Australia because they take 5 times as many refugees per capita as we do. Well Gerry, the reason for that is, your government steadfastly refused to increase our quota, even in the face of the dreadful humanitarian crises we’ve seen in the last few years.

  4. Kay 4

    Today’s Stuff red -meat- to -the- wolves anti-welfare tirade is courtesy of Mike Yardley.
    (I haven’t linked it it because it doesn’t deserve more clicks but will if mods want me to).

    The usual routine- RW anti-benefits/anti-Greens rant, followed by opens comment section of course. To date 250+ comments. I can’t bare to look at them, but easy to guess- dominated by the ‘I couldn’t agree with you more Mike’ brigade, usual rednecks, paid Natz trolls, and general pricks, all up-voting each other of course. And the few that dare to dissent getting heavily down-voted by the above.

    So business as usual at Stuff really. But it does beg the question- these “opinion” pieces are always very careful not to cross the line of course but come bloody close at times. They are, however, deliberately written with the sole aim to provoke, not to provide another point of view, which is evident by the fact the comments sections are always left open, the editors knowing full well what will happen.

    I believe this practice is inciting hate speech. Is that an extreme statement? Maybe not “hate” under any current legal definition, but certainly encouraging the public to gang up on and at a bare minimum severely bully a group of society. How can this be stopped? (Closing off comments would be a start- the one decent thing the Herald did).

    • Rosemary McDonald 4.1

      Fresh meat….

    • One Anonymous Bloke 4.2

      I just had a quick look and the balance between sanity and National Party hate speech isn’t as bad as you think.

      Each and every talking point is rebutted, and it’s clear that people are familiar with them, and the facts.

      I agree: I think they should be held accountable when the consequences of hate speech spill over into legally sanctioned human rights abuses, such as this gross attack on privacy and freedom of expression.

    • patricia bremner 4.3

      Actually Kay, 4, a huge number of comments were supportive of solo Mums getting that money, and saying Dads dodged. Also a number said Mike was stirring.

    • tracey 4.4

      Rather makes you wonder what he thinks a Godfather does…

  5. Grey Area 5

    +1 Kay. I thought it was an appalling piece full of exaggeration, assumptions and bile. Just like most of the comments.

  6. Anne 6

    Two Herald opinion pieces by Claire Trevett and Rachel Smalley about Jacinda Ardern’s unfortunate interview with Jack Tane yesterday morning:

    Claire Trevett

    Quite reasonable in my view. I saw the offending clip before the fallout started and wasn’t too impressed with the way Jacinda handled it. In my view she should have launched into a short, simple explanation (no smiles etc.) then shut the story down. If Tane refused to accept the explanation then she should have ended the interview. Sometimes its the only way to handle youthful upstarts like Tane who think they “know it all”. Instead she pussy footed around and made things worse. I’m sure it was a lesson well learned by Jacinda.

    As for Rachel Smalley. Not worth a link. A biased piece of claptrap from a sulking Nat. supporter.

    • Bill 6.1

      Just watched the edited vid that’s through your link.

      I didn’t see too much wrong with Adern’s responses. Reporter seeks to give substance to gossip. PM laughs.

      I’ll assume she’s learned the lesson that you don’t tell “your mates” fuck all about the incidental bullshit that goes on in such meetings.

      • Anne 6.1.1

        ….she’s learned the lesson that you don’t tell “your mates” fuck all about the incidental bullshit that goes on in such meetings.

        Essentially what I was getting at… and I think it was the message Trevett arrived at too. Don’t know how long it will last, but have found Trevett’s columns reasonable since the change of government.

      • Grey Area 6.1.2

        I’ll assume she’s learned the lesson that you don’t tell “your mates” fuck all about the incidental bullshit that goes on in such meetings.

        That was my reaction as well Bill. I know it’s a steep learning curve with lots to learn but I hope she doesn’t have to learn too much by making mistakes. She doesn’t want to be handing out sticks for our biased media to beat her with.

    • Chris 6.2

      She’s Ardern, not Jacinda.

      • Anne 6.2.1

        Uggh? I know “Jacinda” and I will call her by her christian name if I think it is appropriate.

        NB: I used her full name in the first sentence. That is enough.

        • veutoviper

          + 1, Anne.

        • Chris

          The obsession with use of her first name comes from treating her as a child. She’s Ardern.

          • veutoviper

            “Ardrern” ??????? Really?????????

          • Anne

            What an offensive and arrogant assumption to make. Yet another upstart who makes claims with no backing evidence? Grow up and act your age.

          • One Anonymous Bloke

            If you’re going to insist on formal speech and manners, Chris, The Right Honourable Jacinda Ardern, Prime Minister of New Zealand, will talk to you when she’s good and ready.

            On Earth, however, you can relax.

            • Chris

              Thank you, Master Po.

              • One Anonymous Bloke

                I get where you’re coming from, maybe, but don’t forget Dr. Sir John Key more or less encouraged journalists to call him “mate”.

            • veutoviper

              Chris also needs to be consistent – example 2.3.1 above
              Hey Wayno! You any relation to Pete George?

              Open Mike 21/11/2017

              I don’t usually agree with the POVs of either Wayne * or Peter George, but I found that comment both childish and mildly offensive.

              * AKA The honourable Dr Wayne Mapp

              • greywarshark

                I notice Chris getting attention from silly little comments. Various people will use various ways to reduce the vitality and standing of TS while Labour is in government, showing up lefties as easily diverted. Taking them seriously will only reduce TS as a place of intelligent, informed discussion.

                • Chris

                  Too bloody right. I should’ve said “Mapp, your analysis of the relationship between the number of MPs a party has and the level of media coverage they should expect is as relevant as something that’d come from Pete George”. Seriously though, if anyone will “use various ways to reduce the vitality and standing of TS while Labour is in government, showing up lefties as easily diverted” it’s in fact Wayne. The guy’s a disgrace.

                • CLEANGREEN

                  100% Greywarshark.

                  TS is anoother public media platform that offers alternative views to n the scribbed corporate media we live inside of today, so to TS & TDB long live free speech.

    • Bearded Git 6.3

      Ardern handled it well…can’t believe it warranted any further media coverage.

      • Grey Area 6.3.1

        “…can’t believe it warranted any further media coverage.”

        It didn’t but biased media + any opportunity =?

    • CLEANGREEN 6.4

      100% Anne you summed this perfectly.

      “As for Rachel Smalley. Not worth a link. A biased piece of claptrap from a sulking Nat. supporter.”

  7. Morrissey 7

    Deadbeat Dads
    No. 4: This scumbag still boasts that his parents were two of Auckland’s most notorious criminals (significantly, they were grog-runners)

    A 16-year-old who died of alcohol poisoning earlier this year was reportedly egged on to drink by the son of Auckland Mayor John Banks.

    Witnesses who saw Kings College student James Webster on the night he died say he was urged to keep drinking by fellow student Alex Banks…


    He’s a deadbeat husband as well….

    Deadbeat Dad No. 1: Sir John Key
    Deadbeat Dad No. 2: Bill English
    Deadbeat Dad No. 3: Sir Douglas Graham

  8. Morrissey 8

    No. 6: Arnold Schwarzenegger

    “Did he rape me? No,” said one woman, who claimed that the actor had touched her breast in 1980. “Did he humiliate me? You bet he did.”


    “GROPERS” is researched and presented by GroperWatch, a division of Daisycutter Sports Inc.

    No.1 George Herbert Walker Bush

    No. 2 Bill O’Reilly

    No. 3 Al Franken
    No. 4 Robin Brooke
    No. 5 Lester Beck

      • alwyn 8.1.1

        You really have to admire the chap, don’t you?
        Seventy one years old, a survivor of major heart surgery and still has the get up and go of a teen-ager.
        He must follow the Hugh Hefner diet. Large doses of Viagra.
        Actually calling Bill a randy old goat is probably more appropriate.

        • Colonial Viper

          Please note, Bill Clinton is from the correct side of the political aisle so we must go easier on him and his long time enabler wife, former presidential candidate Hillary Clinton

          • alwyn

            From my random observations there is absolutely no difference in the behaviour of the different sides of politics.
            For every John Kennedy there is a Nelson Rockefeller.
            For every Don Brash there is a David Cunliffe.

            It is probably something that Morrissey should consider. He considers Bill English to be a deadbeat Dad for Christ’s sake!
            From what I can see Bill has been a truly admirable father and his family have all turned out to be fine adults.
            If only every parent was so caring and successful in the most important activity of their life.

            • Colonial Viper

              Yes, when English had children appear in his election campaign ads they were usually his own, and he was very proud of them justifiably so.

            • tracey

              Shame his parenting includes teaching his children that lying is ok to get what you want…

            • CLEANGREEN

              “For every John Kennedy there is a Nelson Rockefeller.
              For every Don Brash there is a David Cunliffe.”

              For every john key there is a George Soros or 100 other carpetbaggers?

          • North

            Still working your Clinton obssessions CV ? Your “long time enabler wife” comment is straight out of Repugs’ talking points and is utterly offensive. Mind your own fucking business about their personal dynamic. There’s something ‘crypto’ about you CV.

            • rhinocrates

              Hillary ate his cat. He’s never forgiven her for it.

              • Colonial Viper

                Hillary has enabled decades of Bill’s bad behaviour. Turn a blind eye if you wish, but more is coming out shortly.

                • rhinocrates

                  What, she’s eaten other people’s cats too? There are plenty of villains active and in power in this world today. Your obsession with someone who’s never going to hold significant office again is peculiar.

                • North

                  Same old CV what?…….still busybodying Ena Sharples like over someone else’s marriage. Phew! And then going all Trump like……”more is coming out shortly……” Better be better than a relaunch of Anthony Weiner’s weenie CV!

        • tracey

          Nope dont admire sexual assault, not even tongue in cheek as you have just done.

          • alwyn

            Admired sexual assault?
            Do you think saying what I did “Actually calling Bill a randy old goat is probably more appropriate” is expressing “admiration”?

  9. Morrissey 9

    Farmers ruin another river
    17 November 2017

    The Kaiapoi River is turning salty, and irrigation is to blame: A freshwater Canterbury river is on the brink of turning into a saltwater estuary, in part due to water abstraction, new data shows.

    It has blindsided some in the community and would permanently alter the river’s character if the trend continued.

    “The prospect of that river turning to a smelly, scum-filled seawater estuary is just totally unacceptable,” Waimakariri District councillor Sandra Stewart said.

    The problem is caused by farmers taking too much water from the Waimakariri River, meaning that its flow is too weak to prevent salty tidal flows from entering the Kaiapoi. The solution is obvious: reduce irrigation flows. But that means reducing farmers’ profits, which was unacceptable under National. Hopefully with a different government (and a soon-to-be elected ECan) they’ll be able to stop the farmers poisoning this river before its too late.



  10. patricia bremner 10

    I hope Clare Curran is making a list of government appointments in broadcasting, to change the tenor of the interviews (kind calling them that!!) questions and topics.

    The childish point scoring, voices of the right, judgmental name calling going on currently does nothing about informing.

    Thank heaven for the internet, there is always someone reasonable out there talking to climate change world politics, and scientists’ warnings among other important things.

    • Colonial Viper 10.1

      Sorry, but politicians should never be making hire and fire decisions of journalists that they like or do not like.

      The CEO’s ability to hire the best person for the job has to remain independent.

      • veutoviper 10.1.1

        +1 CV.

        • CLEANGREEN


          No I dont buy that as CEO;s are also ‘political appointments CV.

          Take a look at the RNZ CEO???

          Totally absent when I asked the RNZ CEO why we did not have a ‘local HB/Gisborne repoprter two months ago and never got any reply from the CEO even though we asked for his response under OIA rules!!!!!

          Best let the new Minister decide as then we wont get Steven Joyce and Brownklee hugging RNZ news every week now as is going on.

          This morning it was Steven joyce featuring as if national was still in charge!!!!!!

          When do we get the new government to take charge here??????

      • Karen 10.1.2

        But the government can make sure they hire the right CEO for the job

        • Colonial Viper

          Indeed, technically the Minister chooses the Board members who then pick the right CEO/senior managers

          • garibaldi

            Exactly , and over the last nine years they have all been Right.

          • CLEANGREEN

            CV You love dictatorships or Beaurocrats do you?

            First you want the CEO to act alone and now you embrace “Boards'”????

            Far to many people as not elected members here so we think boards should be disbanded/sacked; – and a single elected chair preside over the media not a bunch of ‘self interseted idiots’ whom are bought by corporates and well heeled right wing factions.

      • tracey 10.1.3

        CEOs should never hire journalists. Editors should

      • patricia bremner 10.1.4

        Colonial Viper, 10.1 I didn’t know journalists were government appointments. sarc.

      • North 10.1.5

        Right……like Campbell and weak man Key tool Mark Weldon. Quite right! Quite right!

  11. Ad 11

    Did anyone notice the United States is going to be prosecuted by the International Criminal Court for its conduct in Afghanistan for crimes against humanity?


    Puts U.S. military on the same level as the Afghanistan Security Force and the Taliban.

    I’m keen to see how President Trump – and Premier Xi and other world leaders – react to this investigation.

    • One Anonymous Bloke 11.1

      Trump will insult the investigators. Xi will say “they do it too!” and then lock up anyone who mentions it.

  12. alwyn 12

    This, from the Economist’s daily Espresso newsletter, sent out by e-mail to subscribers..

    “Uber will buy up to 24,000 self-driving cars from Volvo, potentially the biggest ever autonomous-vehicle order. The deal adds to the ride-hailing firm’s 200-strong fleet of driverless sport-utility vehicles, which it began testing in America last year. The XC90 SUV, with a starting price of around $50,000, will have both the carmaker’s and Uber’s self-driving technology”.

    I hope that the current Governments Transport Minister sees stories like this. Then they can decide whether they should abandon current plans to waste billions on a technically obsolete technology like the “light rail” system proposed for taking people to Auckland Airport.

    Autonomous vehicles are the way of the future. Who wants to travel in a tram to the airport when an autonomous vehicle will be able to pick you up from your home and take you in comfort to wherever you want to go?
    This may be only a small start but it is certainly a great deal closer to the wide spread use of self-driving cars than most people seem to anticipate.

    Ms Genter, who is concerned about traffic accident deaths may also like to keep in mind that these vehicles, as well as being cheaper to operate than public transport or self drive vehicles are also expected to be much, much safer.
    Don’t let us waste money on old style travel technology. Let us plan for a 21st century solution. This is it.

    • I hope that the current Governments Transport Minister sees stories like this. Then they can decide whether they should abandon current plans to waste billions on a technically obsolete technology like the “light rail” system proposed for taking people to Auckland Airport.


      No amount of self-driving is going to make cars economical for moving large numbers of people in the same direction at the same time.

      Face it alwyn, you’re going to have to use public transport to get around.

      Autonomous vehicles are the way of the future.

      Such vehicles are one of the ways of the future but certainly not the way of the future.

      Who wants to travel in a tram to the airport when an autonomous vehicle will be able to pick you up from your home and take you in comfort to wherever you want to go?

      It’s not a question of who wants, but what the country can afford and it can’t afford personal cars. No country can. Everyone having their own car or two was a 20th century delusion.

      as well as being cheaper to operate than public transport

      [citation needed]

      Or, put it another way: What a load of fucken bollocks. They must be more expensive because they use more resources to achieve the same end.

      Why are you RWNJs so in denial of reality?

      Don’t let us waste money on old style travel technology. Let us plan for a 21st century solution. This is it.

      We are planning for the 21st century. You, and other RWNJs just like you, are trying to hold us back in the 15th.

      • alwyn 12.1.1

        I’ll just comment on a couple of things you say.
        “as well as being cheaper to operate than public transport”
        Have a look at this article. It was in the Fairfax papers on 31 August this year. The suggestion is that an AV from LaGuardia Airport to Manhattan could be as little as $US6.50. That is cheaper than the bus.

        “Everyone having their own car or two was a 20th century delusion.”
        You don’t need to have your own car. You can call one when you want it. If you aren’t using a vehicle it won’t have to sit idle. Someone else will be travelling in it, or it will park out of the way and recharge itself

        “No amount of self-driving is going to make cars economical for moving large numbers of people in the same direction at the same time”
        You will be travelling to where you want to go when you want to do it. The vehicles won’t all be going to the same place. The only reason you have to do that now is because public transport forces it on you.
        You also won’t have to have your own vehicle to take you to the station, and you won’t need parking at the station while you continue on the tram.

        “They must be more expensive because they use more resources to achieve the same end.”
        Are you going to tell me that a bus with 5 passengers costs less to run than a car with 2? These vehicles will only be on the road when they are actually needed. They will also be available without the cost of a driver, which is the single greatest part of public transport fares.

        • tracey

          Yes but they showed it as a 4 seater… Even with amazing technology that will have to be an amazing loss leader to cost that upin launch.

        • Draco T Bastard

          The suggestion is that an AV from LaGuardia Airport to Manhattan could be as little as $US6.50. That is cheaper than the bus.

          This should tell you something about our present socio-economic system. Something that’s really important.

          See, the whole point of economics is to reduce resource use. Using cars, even AVs, does the exact opposite of that.

          The reality is that it is not cheaper than the bus.

          BTW, the bus can also be an AV.

          You don’t need to have your own car. You can call one when you want it. If you aren’t using a vehicle it won’t have to sit idle. Someone else will be travelling in it, or it will park out of the way and recharge itself


          What happens when everyone wants to go to work at the same time in their own personal space?

          AVs may make taxis viable during the middle of the day and late at night. Peak time will be just as bad as it is now.

          You will be travelling to where you want to go when you want to do it. The vehicles won’t all be going to the same place.

          Wow, amazing. Alwyn just solved traffic congestion at peak times.


          The only reason you have to do that now is because public transport forces it on you.

          Could have sworn that it was businesses that set the start and end times.

          You also won’t have to have your own vehicle to take you to the station, and you won’t need parking at the station while you continue on the tram.

          I thought you said that trams were out of date and going the way of the Dodo. So, which is it? Going the way of the Dodo or an integral part of transit system?

          Are you going to tell me that a bus with 5 passengers costs less to run than a car with 2?

          Probably. But that’s not actually the point.

          It’s when we have tens of thousands all going down the same road at the same time that buses and trains come into their own. Thing is, once there are buses and trains even AVs aren’t economical. Why waste resources on a small, inefficient vehicle, when there’s already the big efficient ones going round their set ways that can get anyone from anywhere to anywhere efficiently?

          They will also be available without the cost of a driver, which is the single greatest part of public transport fares.

          Yep, quite aware of that. The Autonomous buses and trains also won’t have drivers.

          • alwyn

            “You also won’t have to have your own vehicle to take you to the station, and you won’t need parking at the station while you continue on the tram.”

            “I thought you said that trams were out of date and going the way of the Dodo. So, which is it? Going the way of the Dodo or an integral part of transit system?”

            I thought this would have been clear enough but obviously from you comment it wasn’t.
            My remark was saying that, because there won’t be any trams that you have to use, you don’t need to get to the station and you won’t have to leave your vehicle there while you switch to another form of transport, a tram.
            You will have a vehicle pick you up at your home that will take you directly to where you want to be. Is that clearer?

            • Draco T Bastard

              Yes, much clearer – and still delusional.

              You really haven’t done the figures. Haven’t considered how many vehicles will be on the road at peak times if everyone used a car with one to four people in it instead of public transport.

              HINT: The congestion will be a lot worse.

    • Ad 12.2

      Jesus Alwyn.

      Come up to Auckland and figure it out.

      Autonomous vehicles will barely fingernail-scratch the congestion that people face here.

      Whereas light rail can pack into one carriage about 600 metres full of autonomous-car-filled motorway.

      Failing that, go up to Shanghai.

      • alwyn 12.2.1

        “light rail can pack into one carriage about 600 metres full of autonomous-car-filled motorway. ”
        I’ll take you word for that. So what. How close together do light rail vehicles travel? More that 600 metres I would suggest and there won’t be more than one tram every 10 minutes I should think. And bear in mind that AVs can travel much closer together than cars with drivers. The 2 second rule doesn’t apply to machines that can communicate their intentions to their neighbours.

        • Ad

          Here’s some nice hopeful analysis for you on autonomous vehicles also operating as ride-share could eventually start to compete by cost against the train:


          I’m still waiting for my jetpack.

          • rhinocrates

            An invigorating rant from Robert Llewellyn (whom you might remember as Kryten):

            Start about 6:11 for when he has a good vent. Hi-tech, super fast, smart and luxurious electric cars are great, but… how about car-sharing instead of this commodity fetishism? Why spend a fortune on a lump of metal that spends 90% of its time just sitting and rusting. Moreover, electric cars, autonomous or not, aren’t particularly green. People ignore the enormous expenditure of energy that goes into manufacturing them and the environmental destruction that results.

            The whole series he does, Fully Charged, is an inspiring thing. He’s quite the enthusiast for new electric technologies.

            This is quite an interesting episode where he looks at a company trying to change the standard industry model:

            Riversimple is the company’s name and they’re looking at cars as a shared mobility service rather than penis extensions.

          • alwyn

            I have glanced at this but I don’t have the time right now to give it the study it deserves.
            I would note though that it still talks about people having privately owned, even if shared AVs. I see no need for that at all. They can all be in a pool and one that suits you can be despatched from the pool.
            I also believe that they will all be electric vehicles. As required they can charge themselves. Maintenance will be much lower than in current fossil fuelled vehicles. You only have a few parts and no gearbox in an electric car.
            I will have a full read later when I have the time.
            Thank you for the reference.

            • CLEANGREEN


              Apart from your apparent love of roads vehicles, what will you do about the tyre dust that is toxic to humans and animals?

              All tyres contain serious health risks whereas rail uses steel wheels.


              So if you wish to place ‘road vehicles’ as “environmentally friendly” to the rail please show how you will get rid of using tyres made from petrochemicals pleasse as I want to know if there is such a solution here please?

              • alwyn

                I presume you will get rid of all the buses then?
                After all they run on tires.
                Actually some of the Paris Metro lines (only a few) have trains that have tires. They are quieter and much more comfortable than the ones that use steel rails.

                • CLEANGREEN


                  Please learn what we are saying!!

                  Read this report, you are not listening here.


                  Fact; every tyre is toxic to our human existance now as the report clearly says we are expecting emissions from tyre particles to increase and it cleary states tyre particles are damaging our health.

                  I asked do you have any answer and if you dont then say it as we are trying to find an answer.

                  Rail is good but only if steel wheels are used.

                  This is so far the only answer.

                  Petroleum produced PVC tyres on rail is not the answer to public our health issue here either.

        • Draco T Bastard

          And personal AVs still won’t get anywhere near the density that public transport will get.

          They simply cannot due to physical limitations.

        • JC

          Ever been to Singapore Alwyn?….. Brisbane/Melbourne/ Paris/London/US? Seattle/Portland/San Fran…. or you could try Bluff. Or https://www.teararoa.org.nz/contacts/Take a Trip! You’ll be enlightened….

          • dv

            Or Tokyo.
            Recently there was an apology for a train leaving 20 seconds early!!!

            (the next train was in 4 mins!!!)
            Cars are still a problem, with lots traffic.
            Often people don’t own a car and rent when need for a longer trip.

            • alwyn

              Please tell me what the relevance of Tokyo is to New Zealand?
              The population of the Tokyo Metropolitan area is, I believe, about 8 times that of New Zealand.
              Of course people don’t own cars, if they have any sense. With AVs neither will we. We will call one whenever we want to go out. They will, having no drivers, be much cheaper than taxis are today and we won’t have to worry about parking them or maintaining them. Why do you think than anyone will want, or need, to actually own their own private car?

              • Dv

                Oh well nothing to learn
                Let’s move on

                • alwyn

                  Of course we can learn something from Japanese trains.
                  Here is a job for brawny young men.

                  Somehow I don’t really look forward to living in such a society.
                  I really do think the smaller autonomous vehicles where I can sit in comfort are preferable.

                  • alwyn

                    Actually, I really should have explained why I put in this clip. It wasn’t just meant to show what people in such a large crowded city have to put up with.
                    There are so many people in Tokyo that it simply doesn’t compare with anything we have in New Zealand. Of course trains, crowded trains, can be on a four minute schedule. There simply aren’t the number of passengers on any given route in a New Zealand city to be able to justify such a timetable.
                    I spend a lot of time in Paris. The Metro there doesn’t really have any sort of published timetable. You don’t go to a station to catch a particular train. You just get the next one along which is normally within about 4 minutes of you getting there. It is rare for there to be a gap of more than 8 minutes between trains on any given line.
                    They can do that because there are so many people living in what is quite a small area.
                    We simply aren’t that crowded which is why I don’t think comparisons with very large cities like Paris or Tokyo make any sense.

          • alwyn

            Of your list I have been to Singapore, Melbourne, Paris, London and San Francisco.
            I hope you realise that they are mostly much larger than any city in New Zealand and that a number are larger than New Zealand?
            Greater Paris is about 11 million. Greater London about 9 million. Singapore about 6 million. Melbourne is around 4.5 million.
            All of these, except Singapore have very old light rail networks and none of them are expanding them to any extent.
            I am most familiar with Paris. Thirteen of the 14 Paris Metro lines opened more than a century ago. The last, 14, opened in 1998.
            They have never been extended outside the Peripherique
            They, like those in large cities were opened when they were the best choice, not today.

    • Graeme 12.3

      Autonomous vehicles are the 21st centuries monorails. They are expected to do all sorts of things. Especially extract money form investors. Lets just wait and see how these things work in the real world. Like around pedestrians, weather and other drivers and AVs.

      And seriously, you take investment advice based on the behaviour of a company that’s bled how many billions of investor funds, and their only strategy is to “invest” how many billions more in unproven technology to take human interaction out of their business.

      • Stephen Doyle 12.3.1

        I’ve a monorail to sell you.

      • alwyn 12.3.2

        Yeah. Reading it was Uber did put me off a bit.
        On the other hand almost every car manufacturer and some pretty good technical organisations are getting into it. Alphabet is a pretty well run organisation don’t you think?
        I don’t say they are working now. They will be by the time the tram line to the Airport is working though, and the billions wasted on light rail will be gone for good.

        • Graeme

          My reading of where the tech is heading is more as augmented rather than totally autonomous.

          The autonomous angle is just good for pulling in investment from cost side managerial types. Fully autonomous is only practical if human control and interaction is removed totally from the transport corridor.

          Now, can you see how this is going to fit into early 21st century human society?

          • alwyn

            “more as augmented rather than totally autonomous”
            Not by 2025 it won’t be.
            Within 20 years I don’t think people will be allowed to drive on public roads. They aren’t safe.

            • Graeme

              Very nanny state socialist of you alwyn.

              I’ll be watching to see how that’s accepted by the personal responsibility and freedom loving right wingers in society. Should be rather entertaining.

              • alwyn

                Rubbish. Most people have accepted the desirability of wearing helmets when riding bicycles and putting sun hats and shirts on kids in the sun.
                The helmetless cyclists I have seen in Wellington generally seemed to have straggly beards and look anything but right wingers.
                I think that safety in vehicles will be readily accepted.

                • Graeme

                  Wouldn’t it be even safer to reduce the number of vehicles, and go towards busses, trams and trains.

    • Macro 12.4

      It’s not often I have to agree with Alwyn but here is a fascinating video I urge every one to take a look at – its long (1 hour) but the guy really does know his stuff and backs it up with a massive amount of examples.:
      Tony Seba 0n Clean Disruption – Energy and Transportation.
      Cars will become a thing of the past and very quickly he predicts. Why? because it will become economically foolish to own one.

      • alwyn 12.4.1

        I have finally had the time to watch this.
        My friends tell me I am an optimist about when the shared, electric, self driving car will take over.
        If Seba is right, and I can’t really see any reason to doubt it, I may in fact be a pessimist. It is going to be even sooner than I think.
        Thank you for the link. It is quite fascinating, and extremely thought provoking.
        Anyone who doesn’t accept what I have been saying should watch this. Maybe he can persuade you.

        • Macro

          I think the 2 photos of Wall St NY taken just a few years apart are quite telling – one is full of horses and the next full of cars. His examples of the uptake of digital technologies surpassing all the expert consensus at the time, and how even Kodak – the developer of the digital camera failed to see the impact it would have on their own business, and their going into bankruptcy just several years later.
          He references the business style of AirBnB and Uber as the business methodology of the future, and he may well be right. The fight back we are seeing now against AirBnB by the hospitality industry shows that the old is giving way to the new.

    • CLEANGREEN 12.5


      Finally has showed himself as an anti rail advocate.

      So thanks for confirming what I suspected.

      I am not surprised you are a road lover.

      You want tyre dust pollution and will be happy killling us all prematurely then.

      I wont take you seriouslly again.

      • alwyn 12.5.1

        My dear chap.
        I am not anti-rail.
        I am in favour of rail where it is a sensible option.
        That means, roughly, in the following areas.
        The main trunk from Auckland to Wellington. The Auckland/Hamilton/Tauranga triangle. Christchurch to the West Coast. Possibly Picton to Christchurch although, if most of the freight is really coming from Auckland, coastal shipping may make more sense. Urban transport from Porirua and Upper Hutt to Wellington City. Except for the Wellington commuter corridors, which make sense because of the topology of the region, everything else is for freight only.
        That is about it. It doesn’t mean crazy schemes to bring back little trains from Gisborne to Napier which can be handled by a dozen trucks a week or suchlike.
        And it doesn’t mean “light rail” in Auckland and Wellington cities. They are obsolete.

  13. Merkel fails to negotiate a coalition:

    Exploratory talks to form the next German government collapsed on Sunday night after the pro-business Free Democratic Party (FDP) walked out of marathon negotiations with Merkel’s Christian Democrats, its Bavarian sister party, the Christian Social Union (CSU), and the Green party.

    After the RWNJs walk off in a huff.

    • Carolyn_nth 13.1

      And they claimed Peters was holding the NZ potential government to ransom, and was taking too long to make a decision!

  14. lprent 14

    If anyone has been wondering where i have been for the past 3-4 days. It has been due to the most awkward (and embarrassing) of injuries – bruising the tailbone..

    While dismounting from my new commuter e-bike on Friday morning, I managed to catch my foot in a strap of the bag of work clothes on the back of the bike. Over I went landing arse first with the bike on top of me, and my blessed helmet managing to stop my brains from spilling on to the concrete.

    Apart from wondering about concussion (got someone to keep an eye on me) and having my dignity bruised, all appeared to be ok.

    But alas later that afternoon it turned out that when I stood up out of my chair for lunch, that wasn’t the only thing I’d bruised. My arse hurt to the point that I was having to waddle around my tail bone. Headed home early to get a med check (ok – nothing particularly busted), some anti-inflammatory support (mostly too late apparently), and several days lying in bed with my arse poking up in the air either bemoaning my fate or sleeping.

    Sitting down or even rolling over in bed has brought a new meaning in just bloody painful. And somehow I have never managed to master the art of coding or writing on blogs standing up…..

    Anyway, it seems to be subsiding, although the best advice is that it is going to be a pain for at least a month. It will be a few days I suspect before my normal attentions to the site resume. Currently all of my limited sitting down time is allocated to income generating activities.

    But I’m not going to do that again. I’m going to be a lot less blase about getting off the bike – which appears ro be my least remembered skill (either that or my joints are a lot less flexible than they were when I was 30)..

    • garibaldi 14.1

      And I thought riding them in traffic would be too dangerous. Good luck with your recovery, and empathy for the dent in your pride for such a landing.

      • lprent 14.1.1

        I’d agree. That was why I stopped biking in Auckland about 30 years ago. It got frigging dangerous. Fortunately Auckland is starting to try to make itself habitable, and to get some people out of cars and off the roads.

        There is a bike way that does virtually all of the way between home and work. It crosses roads, but the lights now often have separated bike and pedestrian sections.

        Which is a damn good thing in commuting hours. It is about 2.6km to work as a bird would fly. But there isn’t a direct route and a fair chunk of hill either way.

        It would take me about 40 minutes to walk if I didn’t have an arthritic big toe – which makes it seems like a lifetime.

        It reliably takes me about 15-20 minutes to bike. Most of the time is waiting to cross at the lights.

        It takes at least 25 minutes (two buses and 0.5km walking) and usually more than an hour on public transport.

        It takes anywhere from 5 minutes (off peak) to an hour (peak) by car depending on the degree of jamming. Median is greater than 25 minutes. My ‘brief’ visit yesterday took 40 minutes to get there and 8 minutes to get home at midday. I had a cardio checkup at Greenlane (the treadmill did nasty things to the tailbone). Today it took 18 minutes to get to work. Variability is the biggest pain.

        I have a car for the longer trips and shopping, but commuting is going to be by bikeways and bike as I’m just outright tired of the damn traffic and paying road taxes that don’t get used to alleviate the major traffic issues in the country.

        They need to get the bloody trucks off the road or get them to pay their full whack – so we aren’t subsidizing the road wreckers and the frigging bridges and heavy duty maintenance.

        • Whispering Kate

          You have my sympathy Lprent, I fractured my coccyx birthing my first child. It was sheer purgatory. The sitting down was okay – it was the rising up which brought tears to my eyes. Good luck with your recovery. Tailbone pain is not very nice at all. Try a ring cushion, its the tried and true accessory for all new mums with sore nether regions, they do work.

        • Ad

          Terminal Hipster Syndrome definition

          “While dismounting from my new commuter e-bike on Friday morning, I managed to catch my foot in a strap of the bag of work clothes on the back of the bike.”

          Top work and commiserations.

          Just as soon as they complete the New Lynn-Avondale cycleway that in turn joins to the Avondale-SH16 cycleway, I’ll be joining you.

        • Draco T Bastard

          They need to get the bloody trucks off the road or get them to pay their full whack

          The latter will achieve the former.

          All the nelo-liberals always say that all businesses should pay their way but then they come up with all sorts of reasons why some are special and need subsidising. Some of those reasons even make sense when what we’re talking about is social services but, then, we’d be better off if those were simply a government service paid for through taxes.

          Trucks don’t meet any sort reason for continued subsidy and need to have their subsidies discontinued ASAP.

    • Anne 14.2

      If anyone has been wondering where i have been for the past 3-4 days…

      I doubt it but nevertheless our sincere commiserations. I have bad news for you. Having once damaged the same part of my anatomy some time ago, I now suffer painful arthritis in the base of my spine requiring frequent anti-inflamatory support. The good news is: it will take a few years before the arthritis sets in. 🙂

    • One Anonymous Bloke 14.3

      Get well soon, broken-arse 😉

    • Fell off my bike a couple of weeks after I got it (bad transition from road to footpath) and bruised my ribs. Spent a couple of weeks living on painkillers after that. Hurt like hell when I tried to lie down but it was fine when standing/sitting thankfully. Still, the ibuprofen had me feeling sick after a couple of days so I switched standard panadol.

    • patricia bremner 14.5

      Oh Iprent, my heart went out to you.

      Many years ago as a fit and active hiker and tramper, I was climbing a bank and was offered a hand literally.

      Suffice to say when the grip slipped so did I. Right onto a large stone. I had broken my tailbones, all 3!!!

      The pain was almost unbearable, and it was before anti inflammatory meds. It was six weeks of misery.

      When the story was told people would snigger, then apologise. I guess where the injury was “seated” caused the mirth.

      Get well soon

      • McFlock 14.5.1

        I must confess, my first thought upon hearing of Lprent’s misfortune was a well-meaning “that’s a bit of a bugger”, then thought better of it due to the double-meaning. Words failed me.

    • weka 14.6

      Is there a reason for having a man’s bike not a woman’s? Seems odd that women’s style bikes aren’t standard. No throwing the leg over the back end.

      • Carolyn_nth 14.6.1

        Traditional reasons. The men’s version was originally stronger, while women rode bikes wearing skirts. So, for “propriety” they were given the lower cross bar, but weaker frame.

        These days, apparently, it’s not so much where the cross bar is, but other aspects of design. All designs tend to have stronger frames.

        • weka

          That’s what I would have thought Maybe it’s cheaper to build a bike with a cross bar.

        • Draco T Bastard

          Interesting article. I bit caught my attention:

          There are about one billion bicycles in existence world-wide. For reference, there are “only” about 500 million automobiles in the world today.

          Now imagine how much damage to the environment would have been done if all those bicycles were actually cars as the RWNJs want.

    • Macro 14.7

      I gave up cycling years ago because, it was for me, literally a pain in the arse. (I guess I could have had it seen to – but those bike seats…)
      Now it seems that there are two ways to develop such a malady.
      Sorry to hear of your accident Lynn and hope the healing is speedy. I know about the worry of concussion too. On rushing back one evening to the dance hall, because I had left my pullover behind, I put my foot where I thought the gutter should be – but was instead a monsoon drain – the civil engineering in Thames in places leaves a lot to be desired – but that is another story (the town having been in administration from 1931 to 1947) and I ended up flat on my face in the middle of Queen Street (the one in Thames). When I came too I couldn’t move – having smashed my left shoulder- and thought “I hope no one runs me over!” Then I saw a flashing light and a police car stopped in the road in front of me. He had been on a call out – the Police station being just up the road a way, and had seen this person running down the street! Hmmm that looks suspicious and he watched me and saw me fall. A large box of chocs was presented to the Police station on my return.

  15. joe90 15

    Makes me wonder about our own hacks, commentators and opinion makers.

    In hearing these individual tales, we’re not only learning about individual trespasses but for the first time getting a view of the matrix in which we’ve all been living: We see that the men who have had the power to abuse women’s bodies and psyches throughout their careers are in many cases also the ones in charge of our political and cultural stories.


  16. patricia bremner 16

    Oh Iprent, my heart went out to you.

    Many years ago as a fit and active hiker and tramper, I was climbing a bank and was offered a hand literally.

    Suffice to say when the grip slipped so did I. Right onto a large stone. I had broken my tailbones, all 3!!!

    The pain was almost unbearable, and it was before anti inflammatory meds. It was six weeks of misery.

    When the story was told people would snigger, then apologise. I guess where the injury was “seated” caused the mirth.

    Get well soon

  17. greywarshark 18

    This seems underhand. Immigration should be transparent. We need to work on this because so often their actions indicate they are a bit thick in the head.


    More on Oz.

    • McFlock 18.1

      It’s certainly irregular, and disconcerting.

      The court thing is odd – I was under the impression that even if he had name suppression for something, it would still be on court documents and just not publishable.


  18. Tanz 19

    Why doesn’t someone in the Labour ranks tell Ardern to pull her head in? She is embarrassing NZ on the world stage, and only four weeks in. Out of her depth and childish, NZ deserves much better than this. Winston, what say you now?? The silence is deafening…are people who voted Labour having buyers remorse?? I knew she wasn’t up to the job, but it’s an absolute nightmare so far. There is a reason more people voted for National than Labour and the Greens combined!
    Bill English runs circles around Ardern in the PM stakes.

    • She is embarrassing NZ on the world stage, and only four weeks in.

      No she’s not.

      And I’m pretty sure you didn’t say anything about when John Key embarrassed us on the world stage.

      Why the double standards?
      Is it because Jacinda is a woman?
      Or is it because she’s Labour?

      There is a reason more people voted for National than Labour and the Greens combined!

      And there’s a reason why most people didn’t vote national at all – no matter how much you try to hide from that fact.

      Bill English runs circles around Ardern in the PM stakes.

      No he doesn’t. Too bloody conservative.

      • McFlock 19.1.1

        Grieving is a process.

        Personally, I quite hope that national stay aroung 37-44%. Otherwise the tories might ditch the nats and come up with a competent friend for them. At the moment Billy No-mates and his band of moaning minnies have nobody to make them look sane.

    • Grey Area 19.2

      Always good to get an update from the alternate universe on Planet Key.

    • North 19.3

      You were just panting for some bullshit controversy weren’t you Tanz? Fuck off with your ‘remorse’. Run around in any circle you care to stumble into troll!


    Get better soon Iprent,

    I did my left knee in during a capsised 12ft dingy accident last december, and it is just comming back to use now, as I had many weeks restup and slow exersise using a $30 floor cycle “mini exercise bike” from Kmart, to slowly mobilise my knee again and lots of hot baths using hydrogen peroxide or baking soda.

    • North 20.1

      Oh you poor folks. Hope conditions are improving and pain goes to nothing. Not comparable to your accident injuries but being of an age I’m noticing that I’ve always bloody well got something ‘niggling’. Bit annoying really. And blow me down I’ve got very cognisant of that institution ‘the weather’. And I need korero about ‘the weather’. What is it?

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    14 hours ago
  • Be careful what you wish for: Labour's difficult triumph
    Labour’s overwhelming victory at the election has been greeted with rousing cheers on the left of New Zealand politics and the start of transformational demands. It’s a multi-generational win for Labour, out-polling the Kirk, Lange and Clark victories. You have to go back to 1938 for a bigger percentage (55.8%) ...
    PunditBy Tim Watkin
    14 hours ago
  • A Skeptical Science member's path to an experiment on carbon sequestration
    During what now seems like another era entirely- back in February of this long year- Skeptical Science regular RedBaron (aka Scott Strough) mentioned in a discussion thread here that he'd been working on an idea for no-till cultivation of vegetables, was seeking to quantify what appeared to be promising results. Scott ...
    15 hours ago
  • Jacinda Will Keep Us Moving – To The Same Place.
    Ch-ch-ch-ch-changes? Not Likely: Though few New Zealanders would express it in such a fashion: Jacinda’s and Labour’s general handling of the Covid-19 crisis proved both to be highly effective defenders of the capitalist status quo. She, and they, kept the lights on. And that, in the absence of an alternative ...
    16 hours ago
  • The Greens and Labour
    With an absolute majority, Labour can govern in its own right, and doesn't need partners. But while unnecessary, they're a nice-to-have, both as backup and for PR reasons. Ardern has talked about "consensus", and there are obvious benefits for her of having government policy endorsed by as many parties as ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    16 hours ago
  • 2020 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming Digest #42
    Story of the Week... Toon of the Week... Coming Soon on SkS... Climate Feedback Claim Review... SkS Week in Review... Poster of the Week... Story of the Week... Earth has warmest September on record, and 2020 may clinch hottest year Record warmth in Europe and Asia overwhelms a ...
    21 hours ago
  • Josh Van Veen: The Vindication of Winston Peters
    An egalitarian spirit is currently being revived in New Zealand, and we should thank Winston Peters for keeping alive that spirit. Josh Van Veen, who once worked with the NZ First leader, pays his tribute.   With New Zealand First receiving less than 3% of the vote, critics are happily ...
    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    22 hours ago
  • The Hunt for Red October: Musings on Taieri
    So New Zealand has had its general election. Jacinda Ardern has managed a single-party majority government, New Zealand’s first in twenty-six years, and its first since the adoption of proportional representation. I intend to do a comment on that further down the line – my feelings on the Sunday ...
    1 day ago
  • Lessons from the Election
    This year’s general election has broken new ground – and not just in terms of its outcome, the seats won and votes cast, and – in an MMP environment – the margin of victory. It also suggests that something quite fundamental has changed in New Zealand politics. The outcome is ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 days ago
  • The unexpected result
    The people have spoken, and its a Labour majority government. This wasn't meant to happen under MMP, and in fact its exactly what the system was designed to prevent: no majority governments, no elected dictatorships, unless we really, really want it (which at the time seemed unlikely on 40 years ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Schadenfreude is a dish best served blue
    What started out as the largest party in parliament has ended election night scratching the back door of the house of irrelevance. ...
    My ThinksBy boonman
    2 days ago
  • 2020 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming News Roundup #42
    A chronological listing of news articles linked to on the Skeptical Science Facebook Page during the past week: Sun, Oct 11, 2020 through Sat, Oct 17, 2020 Editor's Choice A FIELD GUIDE TOTHE ELECTION AND CLIMATE CHANGE   The presidential election is just weeks away, and climate change has broken ...
    2 days ago
  • Legal Beagle: Election '20: The Special Votes
    The 2020 General Election has a preliminary result. For reasons I am unable to really explain, we will not have even a preliminary result for the end of life choice and cannabis legalisation referendums for some weeks (I dropped the ball on that one when the referendum legislation was before ...
    2 days ago
  • National rejects tonight’s result as a ‘rogue poll’
    National are dismissing tonight’s election result as an “obvious outlier” Half an hour into counting, National Party leader Judith Collins and deputy leader Gerry Brownlee are already dismissing tonight’s election result as a “rogue poll”, saying it’s an incomplete survey with shoddy methodology. Brownlee called an emergency media stand-up just ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 days ago
  • Jacinda Ardern ran down four National supporters with her car this morning but due to electoral law ...
    Dr. Ashley Bloomfield reported at today’s 1pm health briefing that the Coronavirus turns out not to exist, but that information was also withheld on the same grounds. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern began her election morning by ruthlessly driving her car into a family of National supporters just blocks from her ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 days ago
  • Six weird animals that have nothing to do with the election
    Get a load of these things! Some of these animals are just crazy. You wouldn’t want a single one of these animals anywhere near your kids. It could ruin them for life. Last thing you’d want is your kid growing up around any of these, and thinking that’s what animals ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    3 days ago
  • 1pm Covid Health Update for 17th October, 2020
    What follows is today’s 1pm health update from the Ministry of Health There are 12 new cases of Covid-19 today, six in managed isolation, three escaped, and three are wealthy foreigners so it’s fine. One of these cases is a man in his 50s who visited Auckland sex club Fisting ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    3 days ago
  • It's Election Day.
     This posting is exclusive to Bowalley Road. ...
    3 days ago
  • National caucus convening to elect new leader for final 2 hours of the campaign
    This is a breaking news event, and further updates and clarifications may be forthcoming. With less than three hours to go in the election campaign, The National Party is holding an emergency meeting to elect a new leader, one they hope can turn things around in the final one and ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    3 days ago
  • Judith Collins asking for two week extension on election due date
    Collins says she was “ever so close” to finishing everything up, but a family member died, her computer crashed, and she just needs “a little more time” to get things right. In a late move this evening, Judith Collins has written an urgent letter to the Electoral Commission requesting a ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    3 days ago
  • The Debunking Handbook 2020: Misinformation is damaging and sticky
    This blog post is part 1 of a series of excerpts from The Debunking Handbook 2020. The list of references is available here. Misinformation can do damage Misinformation is false information that is spread either by mistake or with intent to mislead. When there is intent to mislead, it is ...
    3 days ago
  • Not as a Christian, but as a New Zealander: Why I am voting against assisted suicide tomorrow.
    I am no stranger to lost causes. And, while there is always hope, it does appear that David Seymour’s “End of Life Choice” law will receive the necessary endorsement of voters to finally legalise assisted suicide in this country. A significant minority of voters will dissent, however.I will be one ...
    PunditBy Liam Hehir
    3 days ago
  • Ardern reassures voters that Greens’ negotiating table will be a tiny, humiliating one
    On the eve of the election, the Prime Minister wants New Zealanders to know the Greens will be given a very small seat at the table, quite literally. In the final hours of the campaign, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has made a forceful appeal to the electorate not to be ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    3 days ago
  • A Waste of Time: The Hundred “Best” Fantasy Books
    Time Magazine has put out a list of the hundred best fantasy books of all time: https://time.com/collection/100-best-fantasy-books/ It is bad. Very bad. I get that this is clickbait nonsense, but… really. Time Magazine ought to be ashamed of themselves. Ostensibly, the selection process was as follows: ...
    4 days ago
  • Big changes do stick
    In one of her last pre-election interviews, Jacinda Ardern tries to defend her policy of doing nothing while in government: Ardern reflected on large changes made by Helen Clark’s government – particularly in education and welfare – that were still part of the system now, saying they prove smaller ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Polls show regret for not voting Green
    I have looked at election polling for last four elections and have noticed a concerning pattern. The Green Party's polling leading up to each election is stronger than what they actually achieve, then the poll immediately afterwards is always considerably higher. For most parties the opposite is generally the case. ...
    4 days ago
  • Climate Change: Planning to fail
    Last year, the government passed the Zero Carbon Act, setting short-term and long-term goals for carbon reduction. And they're already saying that they will fail to meet them: Environment Minister David Parker​ appears to have already given up on the country’s ability to meet the 2030 methane goal set ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Another issue Labour is ignoring its voters over
    Jacinda Ardern is trying to rule out even discussing a wealth tax if she gets re-elected. But if she gets re-elected, it will be by voters who support one. A Newshub poll shows that nearly half of all voters - and 60% of labour supporters - support a wealth tax: ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Scholarship Physics
    It’s that time of year when school students become seriously focused on exams. This year has been messy for student learning, and has affected some students more than others, but the NCEA external assessments and the Scholarship exams are going ahead pretty-much as normal. I’ve taken some interest in the ...
    SciBlogsBy Marcus Wilson
    4 days ago
  • “Fitz” On Cannabis.
    "I Like It!" “Shall I tell you the real reason to legalise cannabis? Because all the stuff I’ve told you, while true, isn’t enough. You should legalise cannabis because you’d like it. No, actually, you’d love it! Cannabis makes food taste better. It turns music into magic. It suppresses pain and nausea ...
    4 days ago
  • Crusher fails to resonate
    Judith Collins - National Party leaderYou can tell the National Party is in damage control mode most of the time these days. Instead of being able to provide any valid alternative to a Labour led Government, Judith Collins is going out of her way to be controversial just to get ...
    5 days ago
  • A flaw in our electoral transparency regime II
    Last month, we learned there was a flaw in our electoral transparency regime, with the New Zealand Public Party receiving a quarter of a million dollars in donations which will never have to be decalred. And now its got worse,as it turns out they're also explicitly soliciting donations from rich ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • “Entirely separate”
    When two people whose identities we all know but cannot say publicly due to name suppression were charged with "Obtaining by Deception" over routing donations to NZ First through the NZ First Foundation, Winston Peters claimed his party had been exonerated because "The Foundation is an entirely separate entity from ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Judith Collins' little green lies
    New Zealand is not the United States, thank goodness. We don't have the same level of political partisanship nor public media outlets that blatantly display political bias. However, during the closing weeks of this campaign I do feel an infection of trumpism is evident. Judith Collins and her National Party ...
    5 days ago
  • Josh Van Veen: The Psychology of Ardernism
    Jacinda Ardern has made New Zealanders feel safe. Josh Van Veen looks at psychological understandings of leadership to help explain the ongoing success of Labour in this election campaign.   Simon Bridges could have been the Prime Minister. Opinion polls in February suggested a close election, with Colmar Brunton giving the ...
    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    5 days ago
  • Let's Make Jacinda Break Her Promises.
    Make Her An Offer She Can't Refuse: Expecting Jacinda and her colleagues to break their promise not to introduce a Wealth Tax is not only unfair it is unwise. A consensus for change has never arisen out of a series of polite discussions - or base betrayals. A better New ...
    5 days ago
  • Two days to go, 12 questions still worth asking
    One last lap. One last crack. One last chance to boost your own policies or knock down your opponents. Tonight TVNZ hosts the final leaders’ debate and although over a million New Zealanders have voted and much of the policy debate seems to have stagnated around negative attacks, there are ...
    PunditBy Tim Watkin
    5 days ago
  • Possible inter-satellite collision on Friday
    Two objects in low-Earth orbit may collide with each other on Friday, in a hyper-velocity impact which would lead to millions of fragments being left on-orbit, each potentially-lethal to functioning satellites. Fingers crossed (not that I am superstitious) that it is a miss, rather than a hit. One local ...
    SciBlogsBy Duncan Steel
    5 days ago
  • Do Elections Deliver What We Want?
    MMP may deliver a parliament which reflects us, but frequently the government does not. At the heart of my recent history of New Zealand, Not in Narrow Seas, is the interaction between economic and social change. I could measure economic change via the – far from comprehensive – ...
    PunditBy Brian Easton
    5 days ago
  • Flailing last grasps bring lasting gasps in the NZ General Election…
    The last week of the 2020 election here in New Zealand has been an increasingly torrid and venal affair has it not? Many expect the last week of any Election campaign to get considerably more tetchy, everyone is hurrying to nail the last voter down after all. But this ...
    exhALANtBy exhalantblog
    5 days ago
  • Skeptical Science New Research for Week #41, 2020
    Zika follows climate Sadie Ryan and coauthors combine what we know about the Zika virus and its preferred regime with modeling to show the pathogen will greatly expand its range during the next few decades. We do have some remaining control over the situation. From the abstract: "In the ...
    5 days ago
  • Does a delay in COP26 climate talks hit our efforts to reduce carbon emissions?
    Climate Explained is a collaboration between The Conversation, Stuff and the New Zealand Science Media Centre to answer your questions about climate change. If you have a question you’d like an expert to answer, please send it to climate.change@stuff.co.nz Will the delay of the COP26 UN climate negotiations impact ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    6 days ago
  • Where do the parties stand on open government?
    The election is in less than a week, so I thought I'd take a quick look at where the parties stand on open government, freedom of information, and the OIA. The short answer is that most of them don't. While Andrew Little has "promised" to rewrite the OIA, there's no ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • The Second Time As Farce: National's Election Campaign Falls Apart.
    The Mask Of Civility Is Removed: According to Politik’s editor, Richard Harman, Collins has become her own campaign manager. Now, as a lawyer, you might think that the Leader of the Opposition would be familiar with the old saying: “The lawyer who defends himself has a fool for a client.” ...
    6 days ago
  • National's Little Helpers have A Cunning Plan.
    Keep Your hands Off Of My Stash: Viewed from the perspective of the 2020 General Election as a whole, the intervention of the Taxpayers’ Union against the Greens' Wealth Tax confirms the Right’s growing sense of desperation that the campaign is slipping away from them. With hundreds of thousands of ...
    6 days ago
  • Covid-19: A planetary disease
    Louise Delany* This blog focuses on the underlying environmental causes of Covid-19 (Covid) and the role of international law in tackling both Covid and other planetary crises. I argue that major changes to our relationship with our planet and its creatures are needed and these changes must be supported by ...
    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    6 days ago
  • Liam Hehir: How to make your mind up
    If you’re still on the fence about how to vote, Liam Hehir says it’s probably more important for you to vote on the basis of your principles, and he offers a way to think about how these principles might align with the main party options.   Still undecided? Here’s how ...
    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    6 days ago
  • What else apart from a Wealth Tax? The shape of a Labour-Greens coalition
    If you haven’t heard, the Green Party supports a Wealth Tax. Yeah, I thought you might have heard of it. Everyone’s been talking about it on the campaign trail these past few days. It would force the wealthiest six percent of New Zealanders to pay a one percent tax each ...
    PunditBy Tim Watkin
    6 days ago
  • Time is slipping by for the fruit industry to improve wages
    The covid-19 pandemic has meant a lot of changes for New Zealand. Lockdowns, social distancing, a massive shift to working from home and the death of tourism for a start. But the sensible and necessary border closure has also completely cut off the supply of cheap, migrant labour - and ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • A new low in American “democracy”
    Every US election, we're used to seeing long lines of voters, and reading stories of widespread gerrymandering and voter suppression (including things like flyers falsely telling people their assigned polling place (!) has moved or that voting will be on a different day, and robocalls threatening that people will be ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • A suggestion for Biden’s foreign policy.
    I have been thinking about US foreign policy after the upcoming election. My working assumption is that try as he might, Trump will lose the election and be forced from office. There will be much litigating of the results and likely civil unrest, but on Jan 21, 2021 the Orange ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    7 days ago
  • Bleak views of melting Antarctic ice, from above and below
    This is a re-post from Yale Climate Connections by Karin Kirk Images from satellites high above the Earth have helped a research team put together a stark visual chronicle of decades of glacier disintegration in Antarctica. Meanwhile, a separate international research team has taken the opposite perspective – studying the ice ...
    7 days ago
  • Five reasons I am voting for National (and why you should too)
    Centre right voters have three realistic options this year.
      The National Party, which is currently at something of a low ebb but which remains the primary vehicle for conservative and moderate liberal voters; orThe libertarian ACT Party, which is undergoing a temporary boom as National struggles; orThe centre-left Labour ...
    PunditBy Liam Hehir
    1 week ago
  • Graeme Edgeler: How to vote, and how to think about voting
    Your choice of who to vote for could make a real difference. Electoral law expert Graeme Edgeler suggests you make an informed choice, and he goes through a variety of different ways to think about your voting options.   The New Zealand general election is being held next Saturday, the ...
    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    1 week ago
  • That School Debate: Tolkien, Shakespeare, and Anti-Stratfordianism
    Today, I am responding to one Philip Lowe, who back in August 2019 produced an interesting but flawed piece, looking at the way in which Tolkien viewed Shakespeare: Tolkien and Shakespeare: Counterparts ...
    1 week ago
  • Marching to the ballot boxes
    Today's advance voting statistics are out, showing that 450,000 people voted over the weekend, bringing the total advance vote to 1.15 million - just 90,000 shy of the 2017 total. So its likely that by the end of today, more people will have advance voted than did in the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Hard News: The long road to “Yes”
    One day in 1985, I came down from the loft where I was working as deputy editor of Rip It Up magazine, looking for lunch, and walked into a scene. There, on the corner of Queen and Darby Streets, a man was in the process of getting two kids to ...
    1 week ago
  • A funny thing for Labour to die in a ditch over
    Over the weekend, National unveiled its latest desperate effort to try and gain some attention: campaigning hard against a wealth tax. Its a Green Party policy, so its a funny thing for national to campaign against (alternatively, I guess it shows who their true opponents are). But even funnier is ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • The comforting myth of the referendum ‘soft option’
    Assuming we don’t count Bird of the Year, last week was my first time voting in a New Zealand election. I’ve been here a while, but for reasons too dull to recount, I didn’t have permanent residence in time for any of the others. Anyway, it’s hardly up there with 1893, ...
    PunditBy Colin Gavaghan
    1 week ago
  • Election: Equality Network’s Policy Matrix
    How will you vote this Election? We suggest comparing the Party policies on addressing inequality: The Equality Network identifies Ten Key Policy Areas that will make a difference: ...
    Closing the GapBy Tracey Sharp
    1 week ago
  • Equality Network: Party Policy Star Chart
    Closing the GapBy Tracey Sharp
    1 week ago
  • A Tale of Two Elections
    AS 2020 draws to a close, two very different countries, in different hemispheres and time zones, are holding elections that are of great importance, not only for their own futures but for the future of the world as well. The USA and New Zealand differ greatly in physical and economic ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • 2020 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming Digest #41
    Story of the Week... El Niño/La Niña Update... Toon of the Week... Climate Feedback Article Review... Coming Soon on SkS... Poster of the Week... SkS Week in Review... Story of the Week... How Joe Biden could reorient foreign policy around climate change A new report lays out ...
    1 week ago
  • Potential attack lines in the campaign's final week
    In the final week of the election campaign, parties large and small will want to make clear to voters why they are more deserving of your vote than the other guys. It doesn’t mean going negative… oh alright, it does a little bit. But it doesn’t mean playing dirty. It ...
    PunditBy Tim Watkin
    1 week ago
  • 2020 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming News Roundup #41
    A chronological listing of news articles linked to on the Skeptical Science Facebook Page during the past week: Sun, Oct 4, 2020 through Sat, Oct 10, 2020 Editor's Choice What Have We Learned in Thirty Years of Covering Climate Change? A climate scientist who has studied the Exxon Valdez ...
    1 week ago
  • Economic Resilience or Policy Brilliance?
    The economy has been through a traumatic experience. Prospects look sobering. Preliminary official estimates suggest that market production (GDP) fell 12.2 percent in the June Quarter 2020 – a huge, and probably unprecedented, contraction. In mid-April the Treasury had expected a fall of 23.5 percent (published in the 2020 ...
    PunditBy Brian Easton
    1 week ago
  • The SMC Video Competition: The Tītipounamu Project
    Recently, the Science Media Centre ran the third round of its 2020 SAVVY Video Competition for science researchers. With entries ranging from kea tracking to Beethoven’s piano pieces, we judges were incredibly impressed by the creativity and quality of submissions. This week, we’re featuring the work of runner-up, PhD candidate ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    1 week ago
  • Interview with Nicky Lee
    Fellow New Zealand writer, Nicky Lee, has been doing some Q&A with other local speculative fiction authors: https://www.nikkythewriter.com/blog Each fortnight is a different author, answering ten questions about their Writing Process. I think it’s an excellent way of helping build the profile of the New Zealand speculative fiction ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Capital Vol. 3 lectures: converting surplus-value into the rate of profit
    This is the third in the lecture series by Andy Higginbottom on superexploitation.Here he looks at the problem of converting surplus-value into the rate of profit.(Part one of the lecture series is here, and part two is here) ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Another call for OIA reform
    A collection of top-level environmental and human rights NGOs is calling for reform of the Official Information Act: The Child Poverty Action Group, Greenpeace, Forest and Bird, JustSpeak, New Zealand Council for Civil Liberties and Amnesty International are calling for a comprehensive, independent review of the Official Information Act ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • The advice on moving the election date
    When the Prime Minister moved the election date back in August, I immediately lodged OIA requests with the Electoral Commission and Ministry of Justice for any advice they'd given. Both refused, on the basis that the information would be proactively released. That's finally happened, a mere three weeks after the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Media Link: Pre-election craziness in the US.
    This week in our “A View from Afar” podcast Selwyn Manning and I reflect on Trump’s increasingly erratic behaviour in wake of contracting Covid-19 and the domestic and foreign implications it has in the run-up to the November 3 national elections. You can find it here. ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    2 weeks ago

  • NZ announces a third P-3 deployment in support of UN sanctions
    The Government has deployed a Royal New Zealand Air Force P-3K2 Orion (P-3) maritime patrol aircraft to support the implementation of United Nations Security Council (UNSC) resolutions imposing sanctions against North Korea, announced Minister of Foreign Affairs Winston Peters and Minister of Defence Ron Mark. “New Zealand has long supported ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    18 hours ago
  • Pacific trade and development agreement a reality
    Pacific regional trade and development agreement PACER Plus will enter into force in 60 days now that the required eight countries have ratified it. Trade and Export Growth Minister David Parker welcomed the announcement that the Cook Islands is the eighth nation to ratify this landmark agreement. “The agreement represents ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Securing a pipeline of teachers
    The Government is changing its approach to teacher recruitment as COVID-19 travel restrictions continue, by boosting a range of initiatives to get more Kiwis into teaching. “When we came into Government, we were faced with a teacher supply crisis,” Education Minister Chris Hipkins said. “Over the past three years, we ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • Border exceptions for a small number of international students with visas
    The Government has established a new category that will allow 250 international PhD and postgraduate students to enter New Zealand and continue their studies, in the latest set of border exceptions. “The health, safety and wellbeing of people in New Zealand remains the Government’s top priority. Tight border restrictions remain ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • First COVID-19 vaccine purchase agreement signed
    The Government has signed an agreement to purchase 1.5 million COVID-19 vaccines – enough for 750,000 people – from Pfizer and BioNTech, subject to the vaccine successfully completing all clinical trials and passing regulatory approvals in New Zealand, say Research, Science and Innovation Minister Megan Woods and Health Minister Chris Hipkins. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • International statement – End-to-end encryption and public safety
    We, the undersigned, support strong encryption, which plays a crucial role in protecting personal data, privacy, intellectual property, trade secrets and cyber security.  It also serves a vital purpose in repressive states to protect journalists, human rights defenders and other vulnerable people, as stated in the 2017 resolution of the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Ministry of Defence Biodefence Assessment released
    The Ministry of Defence has today released a Defence Assessment examining Defence’s role across the spectrum of biological hazards and threats facing New Zealand. Biodefence: Preparing for a New Era of Biological Hazards and Threats looks at how the NZDF supports other agencies’ biodefence activities, and considers the context of ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • New Approaches to Economic Challenges: Confronting Planetary Emergencies: OECD 9 October 2020
    New Approaches to Economic Challenges: Confronting Planetary Emergencies: OECD 9 October 2020 Hon David Parker’s response following Thomas Piketty and Esther Duflo. Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening, wherever in the world you might be. I first acknowledge the excellent thought provoking speeches of Thomas Piketty and Esther ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Kaipara Moana restoration takes next step
    A Memorandum of Understanding has been signed today at Waihāua Marae between the Crown, local iwi and councils to protect, restore and enhance the mauri of Kaipara Moana in Northland. Environment Minister David Parker signed the document on behalf of the Crown along with representatives from Ngā Maunga Whakahī, Ngāti ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • New Zealand and Uruguay unite on reducing livestock production emissions
    Agriculture Minister Damien O’Connor and Uruguayan Minister of Livestock, Agriculture and Fisheries Carlos María Uriarte have welcomed the launch of a three-year project that will underpin sustainable livestock production in Uruguay, Argentina, and Costa Rica.  The project called ‘Innovation for pasture management’ is led by Uruguay’s National Institute of Agricultural ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • 3100 jobs created through marae upgrades
    Hundreds of marae throughout the country will be upgraded through investments from the Provincial Growth Fund’s refocused post COVID-19 funding to create jobs and put money into the pockets of local tradespeople and businesses, Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones and Māori Development Minister Nanaia Mahuta have announced. “A total ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Health volunteers recognised in annual awards
    Health Minister Chris Hipkins has announced 9 teams and 14 individuals are the recipients of this year’s Minister of Health Volunteer Awards.  “The health volunteer awards celebrate and recognise the thousands of dedicated health sector volunteers who give many hours of their time to help other New Zealanders,” Mr Hipkins ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Community COVID-19 Fund supports Pacific recovery
    The Minister for Pacific Peoples, Aupito William Sio says a total of 264 groups and individuals have successfully applied for the Pacific Aotearoa Community COVID-19 Recovery Fund, that will support Pacific communities drive their own COVID-19 recovery strategies, initiatives, and actions. “I am keen to see this Fund support Pacific ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Community benefits from Māori apprenticeships
    Up to 50 Māori apprentices in Wellington will receive paid training to build houses for their local communities, thanks to a $2.75 million investment from the Māori Trades and Training Fund, announced Employment Minister Willie Jackson today. “This funding will enable Ngāti Toa Rangatira Incorporated to provide its Ngā Kaimahi ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Training fund supports Māori jobseekers
    Rapidly growing sectors will benefit from a $990,000 Māori Trades and Training Fund investment which will see Wellington jobseekers supported into work, announced Employment Minister Willie Jackson today. “This funding will enable Sapphire Consultants Ltd. to help up to 45 Māori jobseekers into paid training initiatives over two years through ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
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