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Open Mike 21/11/2017

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  1. eco maori 1

    If They try an pin that on me people any more than personal its a setup they have all the means to plant my personal property anywere I have given them to many RED FACES .
    Which is what Te Kooti did to them but Te Kooti did not have this 21 century communication device that puts my story out to the WORLD Ka pai and they put a bounty on his capture of $600.000
    they made sure he was not killed because all Maori would have risen up an well you no what the out come of that would have been my tepuna Rapata Wahawaha was coned into assisting them in the chase and war in the Urewera’s . I would like to see Te Kootis words on his story I’m not sure If this is out there.
    I agree that a lot of the beggars are on crack I can spot a crack head easy as crack is a human wasting substance don’t give them money give the money to some outfit that gives these people rehabilitation . This is Keys legacy homeless crackheads and a chronic crack problem and the talk is more about the houses that have traces of crack than all the people affected by this crap this shit is the flow up of money to some very bad people in NZ. My words on the weekend must have really got up there nose A because they were going hard yesterday but they can go and get ________ what do they expect me to do drop off the face of OUR earth well that is not going to happen.
    Many thanks to the winning NZ Ladys Rugby League team Ka pai There is a explanation on the differences between these team I have allready writen about part of this Kia Kaha

    • eco maori 1.1

      I can tell a national supporter they give me the stink eye when they see my Eco Maori signs on my truck ha ha the left supporters smile they are going ahead of me and telling the road workers not to wave and what do the people do well I can SEE.
      I have got to close to there reality with my older post because they backed off today.
      They backed off but they were still present I see all there moves what a waste of resources chasing the Eco Maori . The best thing about my situation is I get to let my people know exactly how OUR system works and this will help them up there ladder of life stop some these kids slipping into jail I.E scared strait and behave like OUR Lady’s do and think before one acts .
      Now all the people with Trust Farms If I was you I would get the farm management to run more stock for meat for you this will not affect the farm profits and will be a big saving to the share holders a extra 5 cows a year they wont even no they are there but make sure you own them get home kill to process the meat the farm killed meat is 10 x better than shop brought meat no fat in the mince and on dairy farm raising pigs is cheap as there is waste milk most time so just get 5 cows 5 pigs and you will be saving big time man average $15 a day on meat for 2 . My brothers and sisters want to raise there own stock I am going to get the farm lessor to raise them for them I have seen inexperienced people try to raise stock an was not impressed this is the work smarter way of doing things. I don’t take smokes to work and my work is getting easy as my lung heal I will be smoke free soon P.S I know whom reading my post. I have to cook tea so byby Kia Kaha

      • eco maori 1.1.1

        So what do I no about OUR law well any bullshit evidence gathered will be inadmissible in a court of law if the law is broken while gathering this bullshit evidence. Kia kaha

  2. Grey Area 2

    After listening to Brownlee on Morning Report I sent the following email to RNZ:

    “It would be good if RNZ realised the “National” in its name doesn’t mean National Party. A lot of air time seems to be being given to the National Party in a way I don’t remember Labour being treated when they were in opposition.

    “Balance, not bias please”.

    I also picked up Brownlee referring to the “minority coalition”. It seems to me the underlying message taken from the attack lines sheet is minority = illegitimate.

    I didn’t hear the former government referring to themselves as a majority coalition.

    • CLEANGREEN 2.1

      100% Grey Area.

      I think RNZ is being used by Natioonal still now as a propaganda tool.

      When is Claire Curran going to get rid of the national cling-ons inside RNZ????

      • james 2.1.1

        So you think staff should be got “rid of” by a government minister because of perceived political viewpoints?

        • KJT

          Didn’t stop National from packing broadcasting with ignorant right wing prats.
          Don’t need to ask them their political views. Just make them pass a “facts” test.

    • ianmac 2.2

      Kelvin Davis was embarrassed by technical questions about the Economy. Had English/Joyce asked say Bennett the same questions, she would have stumbled.
      English wanted the Manus Island refugees discussed so sent an expert Brownlee in his place.
      Do you see? Horses for courses a privilege denied Kelvin.

    • Wayne 2.3

      Generally the media have some regard to the level of support a party has. Between 2014 and 2017 Labour had 25% of the seats in parliament. National now has 45%, and is in fact the largest party in parliament.

      So you can expect, across visually all media outlets, that National will get more coverage in the next three years than Labour had between 2014 and 2017.

      But as far as I see, National is pretty absent at the moment. Virtually all the media focus is on Jacinda. Even the Deputy PM gets virtually no coverage. It is not likely to change till next year, since for the time being Jacinda is having her political honeymoon.

      • Chris 2.3.1

        Hey Wayno! You any relation to Pete George?

      • Bearded Git 2.3.2

        44.4% Wayne

        • Colonial Viper

          After 3 terms of National Government, Labour + Greens achieved a result in 2017 a mere 2.5% higher than the 2008 election.

          That’s a weak start to a new government.

          • North

            “That’s a weak start to a new government”. Care to tell us what you think the percentages you quote actually mean, or will mean, CV ? Without identifying the upshot as you see it it’s not much better than saying it’s not very pretty. So what to that.

            • Colonial Viper

              1) “Jacindamania” has only brought Labour up to a level slightly above Labour’s losing 2008 election result.

              2) This current government in its first term governs with 50.4% of the party vote, only 1.2% more than National’s third term of 49.2% of the party vote

              3) With margins this narrow, the fledgling government has no time to waste in terms of delivering on its promises. It won’t get a second term without clear, fast results.

              There is almost no room for any erosion of its popularity.

              • North

                I’ve forgotten……what’s the balance……two seats 61/59 ? Read some figures somewhere which suggested that National got by with a sometimes 2-3 margin during nine years of retention of power.
                At this point talking percentages and not seats suggests troubling moral concerns. ‘Legitimacy’ and all that. I really get the feeling that you’re champing at the bit to come out with something more definitive of where you stand CV? C’mon bro’…….declare your quirky lefty ‘preferences’.

      • marty mars 2.3.3

        Same old nonsense eh Wayne – I hope no one pays you for that rubbish. The gnats lost, and are still losing – hearts and minds wayne the gnats are clueless lol.

      • Grey Area 2.3.4

        But as far as I see, National is pretty absent at the moment.

        Wayne if you truly think that you need to get out more. On the Manus Island issue alone Brownlee has been given regular opportunities to advise the government to not annoy the Australians, cut them some slack because it’s a complex issue, etc.

        Even the Deputy PM gets virtually no coverage.

        Yes he has had some particularly around his performance answering questions in the House in the absence of of Ardern and Peters.

        Generally the media have some regard to the level of support a party has.

        So how come the ACT “party” gets as much coverage as it does then?

      • Brigid 2.3.5

        “National now has 45%, and is in fact the largest party in parliament.”
        Wayne, I’ll give you some facts.
        Of the 3,569,830 estimated voting age population 92.54 were enrolled to vote.
        Of those enrolled, 19% did not cast a vote.
        Of those who voted 55.6% did not vote for national

        Therefore, of the estimated voting age population of 3,569,830, only 1,152,075 voted for National.
        Wayne, 67.7274548% of the population did not vote for National.
        So it could logically be claimed that only a little over 32% support National.
        That’s about one third, so for every three people you encounter today, or tomorrow, or anytime for the next wee while, only ONE will be a National supporter.
        The figures are all here http://www.elections.org.nz/

        Now that you know this I expect you wont want to show a lack of honesty and integrity by disseminating mis-information again.

        • Wayne


          Your post, while technically correct is nonsense. On the same basis Labour got about 26% of the vote. That is, just over one in FOUR actually support Labour!

          The proper way to look at the vote, is the votes cast. These are the ones that actually determine the composition of parliament and the government. Under MMP it all depends on getting 50% or more of the MP’s in the parliament. Pointing that out is hardly a “lack of honesty and integrity by disseminating mis-information”. It is simply the facts about our parliament. Having an Opposition that is the largest party in parliament will (and should) change the political dynamic.

          Grey Area,

          I am not suggesting the Opposition has had zero coverage, clearly they get some. But apart from the selection of the Speaker, they are not the dominant player in the media.

          In contrast, every day there are two or three articles/newsclips on Jacinda. The Deputy PM, maybe one tor two per week. I am not objecting or complaining. She was inevitably going to get that level of coverage.

          • Brigid

            “Your post, while technically correct is nonsense. ”
            “The proper way……..”

            Behold the arrogance.

            It is only you Wayne, who is comparing National votes with Labour.
            In case you hadn’t noticed the present government comprises a coalition of three parties, Labour being one of them.
            FPP is sooo last century Wayne.

            Do you STILL believe National should be leading the government?

          • CLEANGREEN


            You are technically ‘incorrect’, as we live in a MPP electoral process so get off the old FPP system anmd get over it for gods ake man!!!!!

      • Carolyn_nth 2.3.6

        And yet, Mr 0.1% David Seymour?!

      • Johan 2.3.7

        Hey Wayne, how many honeymoons are the RWNJ allowing Jacinda to have?

    • Whispering Kate 2.4

      Also how many Morning Report listeners have noticed such a huge difference to last week with the fantastic rapport between Kim Hill and John Campbell, they were a star act. Lots of serious stuff went down and also lots of banter and laughter, especially with Giles on the Finance report. Just what us morning listeners want from a morning show.

      If the management of RNZ didn’t take notice of this then they need to be replaced. The ratings would soar through the roof if we had these two stars on. I realise Kim Hill wouldn’t want to do 5 days a week with early starts but surely they could accommodate such a quality act and allow her 2/3 days.

      This morning it was just so dull and dreary that even Philippa Tolley couldn’t rescue it. Espiner needs replacing and quickly. Just my criticisms I know but it would be interesting to know what other TS browsers have to say on this matter.

      • veutoviper 2.4.1

        Yes, last week on Morning Report was excellent and this week is just … dull. Sorry, Guyon just does not have it. Checkpoint last week was also just … dull.

        However, John Campbell made it very clear last week that the early mornings were not him in any way, shape or form so I don’t expert to see him there too often.

        On Friday morning also I woke up c 6.30am to catch a little bit of snark between JC and KH (I was only half awake and did not catch the issue*) and that seemed to temper their rapport for the remainder of the programme.

        So I don’t expect to see a repeat pairing for a while, sadly.

        * Maybe it was this tweet. LOL

        John Campbell‏Verified account
        Nov 14
        John Campbell Retweeted RNZ
        Having had to get up at 3 bloody 45 to participate in this one week switcheroo (an hour so indecent it should be banned), I can now confirm the entire Morning Report team are vampires.

      • Brigid 2.4.2

        I agree entirely. Kim Hill is a national treasure.

      • Chris 2.4.3

        “The ratings would soar through the roof if we had these two stars on.”

        Yes, but RNZ could at least start with your suggestion of axing Espiner. The guy’s got no ability to formulate questions in a way that suits the context. Accordingly he just comes across as a fuckwit.

        • garibaldi

          Chris he always has been a fuckwit. The main problem at natrad is the fuckwits running it. They should have resigned the day after the election, as should so many other political appointees. But oh no, they all want to carry on shafting us until they get an unearned golden handshake. Fuck them and fuck our silly system for letting them do it.

    • Tuppence Shrewsbury 2.5

      And yet the prime ministers boyfriend is on the panel this afternoon? Is that enough “balance” for you?

    • rod 2.6

      Grey Area. please let us all know when you get a reply. Be ready for more spin and bullshit. RNZ obviously think that National are still the Government.

  3. ScottGN 3

    Anyone else hear Gerry Brownlee waffling on about Manus Island on Morning Report this morning?
    He sounded exactly like an ex-minister who no longer gets his talking points from ministry officials before he fronts the media.
    It was particularly amusing when he tried to suggest Ardern should go easy on Australia because they take 5 times as many refugees per capita as we do. Well Gerry, the reason for that is, your government steadfastly refused to increase our quota, even in the face of the dreadful humanitarian crises we’ve seen in the last few years.

  4. Kay 4

    Today’s Stuff red -meat- to -the- wolves anti-welfare tirade is courtesy of Mike Yardley.
    (I haven’t linked it it because it doesn’t deserve more clicks but will if mods want me to).

    The usual routine- RW anti-benefits/anti-Greens rant, followed by opens comment section of course. To date 250+ comments. I can’t bare to look at them, but easy to guess- dominated by the ‘I couldn’t agree with you more Mike’ brigade, usual rednecks, paid Natz trolls, and general pricks, all up-voting each other of course. And the few that dare to dissent getting heavily down-voted by the above.

    So business as usual at Stuff really. But it does beg the question- these “opinion” pieces are always very careful not to cross the line of course but come bloody close at times. They are, however, deliberately written with the sole aim to provoke, not to provide another point of view, which is evident by the fact the comments sections are always left open, the editors knowing full well what will happen.

    I believe this practice is inciting hate speech. Is that an extreme statement? Maybe not “hate” under any current legal definition, but certainly encouraging the public to gang up on and at a bare minimum severely bully a group of society. How can this be stopped? (Closing off comments would be a start- the one decent thing the Herald did).

    • Rosemary McDonald 4.1

      Fresh meat….

    • One Anonymous Bloke 4.2

      I just had a quick look and the balance between sanity and National Party hate speech isn’t as bad as you think.

      Each and every talking point is rebutted, and it’s clear that people are familiar with them, and the facts.

      I agree: I think they should be held accountable when the consequences of hate speech spill over into legally sanctioned human rights abuses, such as this gross attack on privacy and freedom of expression.

    • patricia bremner 4.3

      Actually Kay, 4, a huge number of comments were supportive of solo Mums getting that money, and saying Dads dodged. Also a number said Mike was stirring.

    • tracey 4.4

      Rather makes you wonder what he thinks a Godfather does…

  5. Grey Area 5

    +1 Kay. I thought it was an appalling piece full of exaggeration, assumptions and bile. Just like most of the comments.

  6. Anne 6

    Two Herald opinion pieces by Claire Trevett and Rachel Smalley about Jacinda Ardern’s unfortunate interview with Jack Tane yesterday morning:

    Claire Trevett

    Quite reasonable in my view. I saw the offending clip before the fallout started and wasn’t too impressed with the way Jacinda handled it. In my view she should have launched into a short, simple explanation (no smiles etc.) then shut the story down. If Tane refused to accept the explanation then she should have ended the interview. Sometimes its the only way to handle youthful upstarts like Tane who think they “know it all”. Instead she pussy footed around and made things worse. I’m sure it was a lesson well learned by Jacinda.

    As for Rachel Smalley. Not worth a link. A biased piece of claptrap from a sulking Nat. supporter.

    • Bill 6.1

      Just watched the edited vid that’s through your link.

      I didn’t see too much wrong with Adern’s responses. Reporter seeks to give substance to gossip. PM laughs.

      I’ll assume she’s learned the lesson that you don’t tell “your mates” fuck all about the incidental bullshit that goes on in such meetings.

      • Anne 6.1.1

        ….she’s learned the lesson that you don’t tell “your mates” fuck all about the incidental bullshit that goes on in such meetings.

        Essentially what I was getting at… and I think it was the message Trevett arrived at too. Don’t know how long it will last, but have found Trevett’s columns reasonable since the change of government.

      • Grey Area 6.1.2

        I’ll assume she’s learned the lesson that you don’t tell “your mates” fuck all about the incidental bullshit that goes on in such meetings.

        That was my reaction as well Bill. I know it’s a steep learning curve with lots to learn but I hope she doesn’t have to learn too much by making mistakes. She doesn’t want to be handing out sticks for our biased media to beat her with.

    • Chris 6.2

      She’s Ardern, not Jacinda.

      • Anne 6.2.1

        Uggh? I know “Jacinda” and I will call her by her christian name if I think it is appropriate.

        NB: I used her full name in the first sentence. That is enough.

        • veutoviper

          + 1, Anne.

        • Chris

          The obsession with use of her first name comes from treating her as a child. She’s Ardern.

          • veutoviper

            “Ardrern” ??????? Really?????????

          • Anne

            What an offensive and arrogant assumption to make. Yet another upstart who makes claims with no backing evidence? Grow up and act your age.

          • One Anonymous Bloke

            If you’re going to insist on formal speech and manners, Chris, The Right Honourable Jacinda Ardern, Prime Minister of New Zealand, will talk to you when she’s good and ready.

            On Earth, however, you can relax.

            • Chris

              Thank you, Master Po.

              • One Anonymous Bloke

                I get where you’re coming from, maybe, but don’t forget Dr. Sir John Key more or less encouraged journalists to call him “mate”.

            • veutoviper

              Chris also needs to be consistent – example 2.3.1 above
              Hey Wayno! You any relation to Pete George?

              Open Mike 21/11/2017

              I don’t usually agree with the POVs of either Wayne * or Peter George, but I found that comment both childish and mildly offensive.

              * AKA The honourable Dr Wayne Mapp

              • greywarshark

                I notice Chris getting attention from silly little comments. Various people will use various ways to reduce the vitality and standing of TS while Labour is in government, showing up lefties as easily diverted. Taking them seriously will only reduce TS as a place of intelligent, informed discussion.

                • Chris

                  Too bloody right. I should’ve said “Mapp, your analysis of the relationship between the number of MPs a party has and the level of media coverage they should expect is as relevant as something that’d come from Pete George”. Seriously though, if anyone will “use various ways to reduce the vitality and standing of TS while Labour is in government, showing up lefties as easily diverted” it’s in fact Wayne. The guy’s a disgrace.

                • CLEANGREEN

                  100% Greywarshark.

                  TS is anoother public media platform that offers alternative views to n the scribbed corporate media we live inside of today, so to TS & TDB long live free speech.

    • Bearded Git 6.3

      Ardern handled it well…can’t believe it warranted any further media coverage.

      • Grey Area 6.3.1

        “…can’t believe it warranted any further media coverage.”

        It didn’t but biased media + any opportunity =?

    • CLEANGREEN 6.4

      100% Anne you summed this perfectly.

      “As for Rachel Smalley. Not worth a link. A biased piece of claptrap from a sulking Nat. supporter.”

  7. Morrissey 7

    Deadbeat Dads
    No. 4: This scumbag still boasts that his parents were two of Auckland’s most notorious criminals (significantly, they were grog-runners)

    A 16-year-old who died of alcohol poisoning earlier this year was reportedly egged on to drink by the son of Auckland Mayor John Banks.

    Witnesses who saw Kings College student James Webster on the night he died say he was urged to keep drinking by fellow student Alex Banks…


    He’s a deadbeat husband as well….

    Deadbeat Dad No. 1: Sir John Key
    Deadbeat Dad No. 2: Bill English
    Deadbeat Dad No. 3: Sir Douglas Graham

  8. Morrissey 8

    No. 6: Arnold Schwarzenegger

    “Did he rape me? No,” said one woman, who claimed that the actor had touched her breast in 1980. “Did he humiliate me? You bet he did.”


    “GROPERS” is researched and presented by GroperWatch, a division of Daisycutter Sports Inc.

    No.1 George Herbert Walker Bush

    No. 2 Bill O’Reilly

    No. 3 Al Franken
    No. 4 Robin Brooke
    No. 5 Lester Beck

      • alwyn 8.1.1

        You really have to admire the chap, don’t you?
        Seventy one years old, a survivor of major heart surgery and still has the get up and go of a teen-ager.
        He must follow the Hugh Hefner diet. Large doses of Viagra.
        Actually calling Bill a randy old goat is probably more appropriate.

        • Colonial Viper

          Please note, Bill Clinton is from the correct side of the political aisle so we must go easier on him and his long time enabler wife, former presidential candidate Hillary Clinton

          • alwyn

            From my random observations there is absolutely no difference in the behaviour of the different sides of politics.
            For every John Kennedy there is a Nelson Rockefeller.
            For every Don Brash there is a David Cunliffe.

            It is probably something that Morrissey should consider. He considers Bill English to be a deadbeat Dad for Christ’s sake!
            From what I can see Bill has been a truly admirable father and his family have all turned out to be fine adults.
            If only every parent was so caring and successful in the most important activity of their life.

            • Colonial Viper

              Yes, when English had children appear in his election campaign ads they were usually his own, and he was very proud of them justifiably so.

            • tracey

              Shame his parenting includes teaching his children that lying is ok to get what you want…

            • CLEANGREEN

              “For every John Kennedy there is a Nelson Rockefeller.
              For every Don Brash there is a David Cunliffe.”

              For every john key there is a George Soros or 100 other carpetbaggers?

          • North

            Still working your Clinton obssessions CV ? Your “long time enabler wife” comment is straight out of Repugs’ talking points and is utterly offensive. Mind your own fucking business about their personal dynamic. There’s something ‘crypto’ about you CV.

            • rhinocrates

              Hillary ate his cat. He’s never forgiven her for it.

              • Colonial Viper

                Hillary has enabled decades of Bill’s bad behaviour. Turn a blind eye if you wish, but more is coming out shortly.

                • rhinocrates

                  What, she’s eaten other people’s cats too? There are plenty of villains active and in power in this world today. Your obsession with someone who’s never going to hold significant office again is peculiar.

                • North

                  Same old CV what?…….still busybodying Ena Sharples like over someone else’s marriage. Phew! And then going all Trump like……”more is coming out shortly……” Better be better than a relaunch of Anthony Weiner’s weenie CV!

        • tracey

          Nope dont admire sexual assault, not even tongue in cheek as you have just done.

          • alwyn

            Admired sexual assault?
            Do you think saying what I did “Actually calling Bill a randy old goat is probably more appropriate” is expressing “admiration”?

  9. Morrissey 9

    Farmers ruin another river
    17 November 2017

    The Kaiapoi River is turning salty, and irrigation is to blame: A freshwater Canterbury river is on the brink of turning into a saltwater estuary, in part due to water abstraction, new data shows.

    It has blindsided some in the community and would permanently alter the river’s character if the trend continued.

    “The prospect of that river turning to a smelly, scum-filled seawater estuary is just totally unacceptable,” Waimakariri District councillor Sandra Stewart said.

    The problem is caused by farmers taking too much water from the Waimakariri River, meaning that its flow is too weak to prevent salty tidal flows from entering the Kaiapoi. The solution is obvious: reduce irrigation flows. But that means reducing farmers’ profits, which was unacceptable under National. Hopefully with a different government (and a soon-to-be elected ECan) they’ll be able to stop the farmers poisoning this river before its too late.



  10. patricia bremner 10

    I hope Clare Curran is making a list of government appointments in broadcasting, to change the tenor of the interviews (kind calling them that!!) questions and topics.

    The childish point scoring, voices of the right, judgmental name calling going on currently does nothing about informing.

    Thank heaven for the internet, there is always someone reasonable out there talking to climate change world politics, and scientists’ warnings among other important things.

    • Colonial Viper 10.1

      Sorry, but politicians should never be making hire and fire decisions of journalists that they like or do not like.

      The CEO’s ability to hire the best person for the job has to remain independent.

      • veutoviper 10.1.1

        +1 CV.

        • CLEANGREEN


          No I dont buy that as CEO;s are also ‘political appointments CV.

          Take a look at the RNZ CEO???

          Totally absent when I asked the RNZ CEO why we did not have a ‘local HB/Gisborne repoprter two months ago and never got any reply from the CEO even though we asked for his response under OIA rules!!!!!

          Best let the new Minister decide as then we wont get Steven Joyce and Brownklee hugging RNZ news every week now as is going on.

          This morning it was Steven joyce featuring as if national was still in charge!!!!!!

          When do we get the new government to take charge here??????

      • Karen 10.1.2

        But the government can make sure they hire the right CEO for the job

        • Colonial Viper

          Indeed, technically the Minister chooses the Board members who then pick the right CEO/senior managers

          • garibaldi

            Exactly , and over the last nine years they have all been Right.

          • CLEANGREEN

            CV You love dictatorships or Beaurocrats do you?

            First you want the CEO to act alone and now you embrace “Boards'”????

            Far to many people as not elected members here so we think boards should be disbanded/sacked; – and a single elected chair preside over the media not a bunch of ‘self interseted idiots’ whom are bought by corporates and well heeled right wing factions.

      • tracey 10.1.3

        CEOs should never hire journalists. Editors should

      • patricia bremner 10.1.4

        Colonial Viper, 10.1 I didn’t know journalists were government appointments. sarc.

      • North 10.1.5

        Right……like Campbell and weak man Key tool Mark Weldon. Quite right! Quite right!

  11. Ad 11

    Did anyone notice the United States is going to be prosecuted by the International Criminal Court for its conduct in Afghanistan for crimes against humanity?


    Puts U.S. military on the same level as the Afghanistan Security Force and the Taliban.

    I’m keen to see how President Trump – and Premier Xi and other world leaders – react to this investigation.

    • One Anonymous Bloke 11.1

      Trump will insult the investigators. Xi will say “they do it too!” and then lock up anyone who mentions it.

  12. alwyn 12

    This, from the Economist’s daily Espresso newsletter, sent out by e-mail to subscribers..

    “Uber will buy up to 24,000 self-driving cars from Volvo, potentially the biggest ever autonomous-vehicle order. The deal adds to the ride-hailing firm’s 200-strong fleet of driverless sport-utility vehicles, which it began testing in America last year. The XC90 SUV, with a starting price of around $50,000, will have both the carmaker’s and Uber’s self-driving technology”.

    I hope that the current Governments Transport Minister sees stories like this. Then they can decide whether they should abandon current plans to waste billions on a technically obsolete technology like the “light rail” system proposed for taking people to Auckland Airport.

    Autonomous vehicles are the way of the future. Who wants to travel in a tram to the airport when an autonomous vehicle will be able to pick you up from your home and take you in comfort to wherever you want to go?
    This may be only a small start but it is certainly a great deal closer to the wide spread use of self-driving cars than most people seem to anticipate.

    Ms Genter, who is concerned about traffic accident deaths may also like to keep in mind that these vehicles, as well as being cheaper to operate than public transport or self drive vehicles are also expected to be much, much safer.
    Don’t let us waste money on old style travel technology. Let us plan for a 21st century solution. This is it.

    • I hope that the current Governments Transport Minister sees stories like this. Then they can decide whether they should abandon current plans to waste billions on a technically obsolete technology like the “light rail” system proposed for taking people to Auckland Airport.


      No amount of self-driving is going to make cars economical for moving large numbers of people in the same direction at the same time.

      Face it alwyn, you’re going to have to use public transport to get around.

      Autonomous vehicles are the way of the future.

      Such vehicles are one of the ways of the future but certainly not the way of the future.

      Who wants to travel in a tram to the airport when an autonomous vehicle will be able to pick you up from your home and take you in comfort to wherever you want to go?

      It’s not a question of who wants, but what the country can afford and it can’t afford personal cars. No country can. Everyone having their own car or two was a 20th century delusion.

      as well as being cheaper to operate than public transport

      [citation needed]

      Or, put it another way: What a load of fucken bollocks. They must be more expensive because they use more resources to achieve the same end.

      Why are you RWNJs so in denial of reality?

      Don’t let us waste money on old style travel technology. Let us plan for a 21st century solution. This is it.

      We are planning for the 21st century. You, and other RWNJs just like you, are trying to hold us back in the 15th.

      • alwyn 12.1.1

        I’ll just comment on a couple of things you say.
        “as well as being cheaper to operate than public transport”
        Have a look at this article. It was in the Fairfax papers on 31 August this year. The suggestion is that an AV from LaGuardia Airport to Manhattan could be as little as $US6.50. That is cheaper than the bus.

        “Everyone having their own car or two was a 20th century delusion.”
        You don’t need to have your own car. You can call one when you want it. If you aren’t using a vehicle it won’t have to sit idle. Someone else will be travelling in it, or it will park out of the way and recharge itself

        “No amount of self-driving is going to make cars economical for moving large numbers of people in the same direction at the same time”
        You will be travelling to where you want to go when you want to do it. The vehicles won’t all be going to the same place. The only reason you have to do that now is because public transport forces it on you.
        You also won’t have to have your own vehicle to take you to the station, and you won’t need parking at the station while you continue on the tram.

        “They must be more expensive because they use more resources to achieve the same end.”
        Are you going to tell me that a bus with 5 passengers costs less to run than a car with 2? These vehicles will only be on the road when they are actually needed. They will also be available without the cost of a driver, which is the single greatest part of public transport fares.

        • tracey

          Yes but they showed it as a 4 seater… Even with amazing technology that will have to be an amazing loss leader to cost that upin launch.

        • Draco T Bastard

          The suggestion is that an AV from LaGuardia Airport to Manhattan could be as little as $US6.50. That is cheaper than the bus.

          This should tell you something about our present socio-economic system. Something that’s really important.

          See, the whole point of economics is to reduce resource use. Using cars, even AVs, does the exact opposite of that.

          The reality is that it is not cheaper than the bus.

          BTW, the bus can also be an AV.

          You don’t need to have your own car. You can call one when you want it. If you aren’t using a vehicle it won’t have to sit idle. Someone else will be travelling in it, or it will park out of the way and recharge itself


          What happens when everyone wants to go to work at the same time in their own personal space?

          AVs may make taxis viable during the middle of the day and late at night. Peak time will be just as bad as it is now.

          You will be travelling to where you want to go when you want to do it. The vehicles won’t all be going to the same place.

          Wow, amazing. Alwyn just solved traffic congestion at peak times.


          The only reason you have to do that now is because public transport forces it on you.

          Could have sworn that it was businesses that set the start and end times.

          You also won’t have to have your own vehicle to take you to the station, and you won’t need parking at the station while you continue on the tram.

          I thought you said that trams were out of date and going the way of the Dodo. So, which is it? Going the way of the Dodo or an integral part of transit system?

          Are you going to tell me that a bus with 5 passengers costs less to run than a car with 2?

          Probably. But that’s not actually the point.

          It’s when we have tens of thousands all going down the same road at the same time that buses and trains come into their own. Thing is, once there are buses and trains even AVs aren’t economical. Why waste resources on a small, inefficient vehicle, when there’s already the big efficient ones going round their set ways that can get anyone from anywhere to anywhere efficiently?

          They will also be available without the cost of a driver, which is the single greatest part of public transport fares.

          Yep, quite aware of that. The Autonomous buses and trains also won’t have drivers.

          • alwyn

            “You also won’t have to have your own vehicle to take you to the station, and you won’t need parking at the station while you continue on the tram.”

            “I thought you said that trams were out of date and going the way of the Dodo. So, which is it? Going the way of the Dodo or an integral part of transit system?”

            I thought this would have been clear enough but obviously from you comment it wasn’t.
            My remark was saying that, because there won’t be any trams that you have to use, you don’t need to get to the station and you won’t have to leave your vehicle there while you switch to another form of transport, a tram.
            You will have a vehicle pick you up at your home that will take you directly to where you want to be. Is that clearer?

            • Draco T Bastard

              Yes, much clearer – and still delusional.

              You really haven’t done the figures. Haven’t considered how many vehicles will be on the road at peak times if everyone used a car with one to four people in it instead of public transport.

              HINT: The congestion will be a lot worse.

    • Ad 12.2

      Jesus Alwyn.

      Come up to Auckland and figure it out.

      Autonomous vehicles will barely fingernail-scratch the congestion that people face here.

      Whereas light rail can pack into one carriage about 600 metres full of autonomous-car-filled motorway.

      Failing that, go up to Shanghai.

      • alwyn 12.2.1

        “light rail can pack into one carriage about 600 metres full of autonomous-car-filled motorway. ”
        I’ll take you word for that. So what. How close together do light rail vehicles travel? More that 600 metres I would suggest and there won’t be more than one tram every 10 minutes I should think. And bear in mind that AVs can travel much closer together than cars with drivers. The 2 second rule doesn’t apply to machines that can communicate their intentions to their neighbours.

        • Ad

          Here’s some nice hopeful analysis for you on autonomous vehicles also operating as ride-share could eventually start to compete by cost against the train:


          I’m still waiting for my jetpack.

          • rhinocrates

            An invigorating rant from Robert Llewellyn (whom you might remember as Kryten):

            Start about 6:11 for when he has a good vent. Hi-tech, super fast, smart and luxurious electric cars are great, but… how about car-sharing instead of this commodity fetishism? Why spend a fortune on a lump of metal that spends 90% of its time just sitting and rusting. Moreover, electric cars, autonomous or not, aren’t particularly green. People ignore the enormous expenditure of energy that goes into manufacturing them and the environmental destruction that results.

            The whole series he does, Fully Charged, is an inspiring thing. He’s quite the enthusiast for new electric technologies.

            This is quite an interesting episode where he looks at a company trying to change the standard industry model:

            Riversimple is the company’s name and they’re looking at cars as a shared mobility service rather than penis extensions.

          • alwyn

            I have glanced at this but I don’t have the time right now to give it the study it deserves.
            I would note though that it still talks about people having privately owned, even if shared AVs. I see no need for that at all. They can all be in a pool and one that suits you can be despatched from the pool.
            I also believe that they will all be electric vehicles. As required they can charge themselves. Maintenance will be much lower than in current fossil fuelled vehicles. You only have a few parts and no gearbox in an electric car.
            I will have a full read later when I have the time.
            Thank you for the reference.

            • CLEANGREEN


              Apart from your apparent love of roads vehicles, what will you do about the tyre dust that is toxic to humans and animals?

              All tyres contain serious health risks whereas rail uses steel wheels.


              So if you wish to place ‘road vehicles’ as “environmentally friendly” to the rail please show how you will get rid of using tyres made from petrochemicals pleasse as I want to know if there is such a solution here please?

              • alwyn

                I presume you will get rid of all the buses then?
                After all they run on tires.
                Actually some of the Paris Metro lines (only a few) have trains that have tires. They are quieter and much more comfortable than the ones that use steel rails.

                • CLEANGREEN


                  Please learn what we are saying!!

                  Read this report, you are not listening here.


                  Fact; every tyre is toxic to our human existance now as the report clearly says we are expecting emissions from tyre particles to increase and it cleary states tyre particles are damaging our health.

                  I asked do you have any answer and if you dont then say it as we are trying to find an answer.

                  Rail is good but only if steel wheels are used.

                  This is so far the only answer.

                  Petroleum produced PVC tyres on rail is not the answer to public our health issue here either.

        • Draco T Bastard

          And personal AVs still won’t get anywhere near the density that public transport will get.

          They simply cannot due to physical limitations.

        • JC

          Ever been to Singapore Alwyn?….. Brisbane/Melbourne/ Paris/London/US? Seattle/Portland/San Fran…. or you could try Bluff. Or https://www.teararoa.org.nz/contacts/Take a Trip! You’ll be enlightened….

          • dv

            Or Tokyo.
            Recently there was an apology for a train leaving 20 seconds early!!!

            (the next train was in 4 mins!!!)
            Cars are still a problem, with lots traffic.
            Often people don’t own a car and rent when need for a longer trip.

            • alwyn

              Please tell me what the relevance of Tokyo is to New Zealand?
              The population of the Tokyo Metropolitan area is, I believe, about 8 times that of New Zealand.
              Of course people don’t own cars, if they have any sense. With AVs neither will we. We will call one whenever we want to go out. They will, having no drivers, be much cheaper than taxis are today and we won’t have to worry about parking them or maintaining them. Why do you think than anyone will want, or need, to actually own their own private car?

              • Dv

                Oh well nothing to learn
                Let’s move on

                • alwyn

                  Of course we can learn something from Japanese trains.
                  Here is a job for brawny young men.

                  Somehow I don’t really look forward to living in such a society.
                  I really do think the smaller autonomous vehicles where I can sit in comfort are preferable.

                  • alwyn

                    Actually, I really should have explained why I put in this clip. It wasn’t just meant to show what people in such a large crowded city have to put up with.
                    There are so many people in Tokyo that it simply doesn’t compare with anything we have in New Zealand. Of course trains, crowded trains, can be on a four minute schedule. There simply aren’t the number of passengers on any given route in a New Zealand city to be able to justify such a timetable.
                    I spend a lot of time in Paris. The Metro there doesn’t really have any sort of published timetable. You don’t go to a station to catch a particular train. You just get the next one along which is normally within about 4 minutes of you getting there. It is rare for there to be a gap of more than 8 minutes between trains on any given line.
                    They can do that because there are so many people living in what is quite a small area.
                    We simply aren’t that crowded which is why I don’t think comparisons with very large cities like Paris or Tokyo make any sense.

          • alwyn

            Of your list I have been to Singapore, Melbourne, Paris, London and San Francisco.
            I hope you realise that they are mostly much larger than any city in New Zealand and that a number are larger than New Zealand?
            Greater Paris is about 11 million. Greater London about 9 million. Singapore about 6 million. Melbourne is around 4.5 million.
            All of these, except Singapore have very old light rail networks and none of them are expanding them to any extent.
            I am most familiar with Paris. Thirteen of the 14 Paris Metro lines opened more than a century ago. The last, 14, opened in 1998.
            They have never been extended outside the Peripherique
            They, like those in large cities were opened when they were the best choice, not today.

    • Graeme 12.3

      Autonomous vehicles are the 21st centuries monorails. They are expected to do all sorts of things. Especially extract money form investors. Lets just wait and see how these things work in the real world. Like around pedestrians, weather and other drivers and AVs.

      And seriously, you take investment advice based on the behaviour of a company that’s bled how many billions of investor funds, and their only strategy is to “invest” how many billions more in unproven technology to take human interaction out of their business.

      • Stephen Doyle 12.3.1

        I’ve a monorail to sell you.

      • alwyn 12.3.2

        Yeah. Reading it was Uber did put me off a bit.
        On the other hand almost every car manufacturer and some pretty good technical organisations are getting into it. Alphabet is a pretty well run organisation don’t you think?
        I don’t say they are working now. They will be by the time the tram line to the Airport is working though, and the billions wasted on light rail will be gone for good.

        • Graeme

          My reading of where the tech is heading is more as augmented rather than totally autonomous.

          The autonomous angle is just good for pulling in investment from cost side managerial types. Fully autonomous is only practical if human control and interaction is removed totally from the transport corridor.

          Now, can you see how this is going to fit into early 21st century human society?

          • alwyn

            “more as augmented rather than totally autonomous”
            Not by 2025 it won’t be.
            Within 20 years I don’t think people will be allowed to drive on public roads. They aren’t safe.

            • Graeme

              Very nanny state socialist of you alwyn.

              I’ll be watching to see how that’s accepted by the personal responsibility and freedom loving right wingers in society. Should be rather entertaining.

              • alwyn

                Rubbish. Most people have accepted the desirability of wearing helmets when riding bicycles and putting sun hats and shirts on kids in the sun.
                The helmetless cyclists I have seen in Wellington generally seemed to have straggly beards and look anything but right wingers.
                I think that safety in vehicles will be readily accepted.

                • Graeme

                  Wouldn’t it be even safer to reduce the number of vehicles, and go towards busses, trams and trains.

    • Macro 12.4

      It’s not often I have to agree with Alwyn but here is a fascinating video I urge every one to take a look at – its long (1 hour) but the guy really does know his stuff and backs it up with a massive amount of examples.:
      Tony Seba 0n Clean Disruption – Energy and Transportation.
      Cars will become a thing of the past and very quickly he predicts. Why? because it will become economically foolish to own one.

      • alwyn 12.4.1

        I have finally had the time to watch this.
        My friends tell me I am an optimist about when the shared, electric, self driving car will take over.
        If Seba is right, and I can’t really see any reason to doubt it, I may in fact be a pessimist. It is going to be even sooner than I think.
        Thank you for the link. It is quite fascinating, and extremely thought provoking.
        Anyone who doesn’t accept what I have been saying should watch this. Maybe he can persuade you.

        • Macro

          I think the 2 photos of Wall St NY taken just a few years apart are quite telling – one is full of horses and the next full of cars. His examples of the uptake of digital technologies surpassing all the expert consensus at the time, and how even Kodak – the developer of the digital camera failed to see the impact it would have on their own business, and their going into bankruptcy just several years later.
          He references the business style of AirBnB and Uber as the business methodology of the future, and he may well be right. The fight back we are seeing now against AirBnB by the hospitality industry shows that the old is giving way to the new.

    • CLEANGREEN 12.5


      Finally has showed himself as an anti rail advocate.

      So thanks for confirming what I suspected.

      I am not surprised you are a road lover.

      You want tyre dust pollution and will be happy killling us all prematurely then.

      I wont take you seriouslly again.

      • alwyn 12.5.1

        My dear chap.
        I am not anti-rail.
        I am in favour of rail where it is a sensible option.
        That means, roughly, in the following areas.
        The main trunk from Auckland to Wellington. The Auckland/Hamilton/Tauranga triangle. Christchurch to the West Coast. Possibly Picton to Christchurch although, if most of the freight is really coming from Auckland, coastal shipping may make more sense. Urban transport from Porirua and Upper Hutt to Wellington City. Except for the Wellington commuter corridors, which make sense because of the topology of the region, everything else is for freight only.
        That is about it. It doesn’t mean crazy schemes to bring back little trains from Gisborne to Napier which can be handled by a dozen trucks a week or suchlike.
        And it doesn’t mean “light rail” in Auckland and Wellington cities. They are obsolete.

  13. Merkel fails to negotiate a coalition:

    Exploratory talks to form the next German government collapsed on Sunday night after the pro-business Free Democratic Party (FDP) walked out of marathon negotiations with Merkel’s Christian Democrats, its Bavarian sister party, the Christian Social Union (CSU), and the Green party.

    After the RWNJs walk off in a huff.

    • Carolyn_nth 13.1

      And they claimed Peters was holding the NZ potential government to ransom, and was taking too long to make a decision!

  14. lprent 14

    If anyone has been wondering where i have been for the past 3-4 days. It has been due to the most awkward (and embarrassing) of injuries – bruising the tailbone..

    While dismounting from my new commuter e-bike on Friday morning, I managed to catch my foot in a strap of the bag of work clothes on the back of the bike. Over I went landing arse first with the bike on top of me, and my blessed helmet managing to stop my brains from spilling on to the concrete.

    Apart from wondering about concussion (got someone to keep an eye on me) and having my dignity bruised, all appeared to be ok.

    But alas later that afternoon it turned out that when I stood up out of my chair for lunch, that wasn’t the only thing I’d bruised. My arse hurt to the point that I was having to waddle around my tail bone. Headed home early to get a med check (ok – nothing particularly busted), some anti-inflammatory support (mostly too late apparently), and several days lying in bed with my arse poking up in the air either bemoaning my fate or sleeping.

    Sitting down or even rolling over in bed has brought a new meaning in just bloody painful. And somehow I have never managed to master the art of coding or writing on blogs standing up…..

    Anyway, it seems to be subsiding, although the best advice is that it is going to be a pain for at least a month. It will be a few days I suspect before my normal attentions to the site resume. Currently all of my limited sitting down time is allocated to income generating activities.

    But I’m not going to do that again. I’m going to be a lot less blase about getting off the bike – which appears ro be my least remembered skill (either that or my joints are a lot less flexible than they were when I was 30)..

    • garibaldi 14.1

      And I thought riding them in traffic would be too dangerous. Good luck with your recovery, and empathy for the dent in your pride for such a landing.

      • lprent 14.1.1

        I’d agree. That was why I stopped biking in Auckland about 30 years ago. It got frigging dangerous. Fortunately Auckland is starting to try to make itself habitable, and to get some people out of cars and off the roads.

        There is a bike way that does virtually all of the way between home and work. It crosses roads, but the lights now often have separated bike and pedestrian sections.

        Which is a damn good thing in commuting hours. It is about 2.6km to work as a bird would fly. But there isn’t a direct route and a fair chunk of hill either way.

        It would take me about 40 minutes to walk if I didn’t have an arthritic big toe – which makes it seems like a lifetime.

        It reliably takes me about 15-20 minutes to bike. Most of the time is waiting to cross at the lights.

        It takes at least 25 minutes (two buses and 0.5km walking) and usually more than an hour on public transport.

        It takes anywhere from 5 minutes (off peak) to an hour (peak) by car depending on the degree of jamming. Median is greater than 25 minutes. My ‘brief’ visit yesterday took 40 minutes to get there and 8 minutes to get home at midday. I had a cardio checkup at Greenlane (the treadmill did nasty things to the tailbone). Today it took 18 minutes to get to work. Variability is the biggest pain.

        I have a car for the longer trips and shopping, but commuting is going to be by bikeways and bike as I’m just outright tired of the damn traffic and paying road taxes that don’t get used to alleviate the major traffic issues in the country.

        They need to get the bloody trucks off the road or get them to pay their full whack – so we aren’t subsidizing the road wreckers and the frigging bridges and heavy duty maintenance.

        • Whispering Kate

          You have my sympathy Lprent, I fractured my coccyx birthing my first child. It was sheer purgatory. The sitting down was okay – it was the rising up which brought tears to my eyes. Good luck with your recovery. Tailbone pain is not very nice at all. Try a ring cushion, its the tried and true accessory for all new mums with sore nether regions, they do work.

        • Ad

          Terminal Hipster Syndrome definition

          “While dismounting from my new commuter e-bike on Friday morning, I managed to catch my foot in a strap of the bag of work clothes on the back of the bike.”

          Top work and commiserations.

          Just as soon as they complete the New Lynn-Avondale cycleway that in turn joins to the Avondale-SH16 cycleway, I’ll be joining you.

        • Draco T Bastard

          They need to get the bloody trucks off the road or get them to pay their full whack

          The latter will achieve the former.

          All the nelo-liberals always say that all businesses should pay their way but then they come up with all sorts of reasons why some are special and need subsidising. Some of those reasons even make sense when what we’re talking about is social services but, then, we’d be better off if those were simply a government service paid for through taxes.

          Trucks don’t meet any sort reason for continued subsidy and need to have their subsidies discontinued ASAP.

    • Anne 14.2

      If anyone has been wondering where i have been for the past 3-4 days…

      I doubt it but nevertheless our sincere commiserations. I have bad news for you. Having once damaged the same part of my anatomy some time ago, I now suffer painful arthritis in the base of my spine requiring frequent anti-inflamatory support. The good news is: it will take a few years before the arthritis sets in. 🙂

    • One Anonymous Bloke 14.3

      Get well soon, broken-arse 😉

    • Fell off my bike a couple of weeks after I got it (bad transition from road to footpath) and bruised my ribs. Spent a couple of weeks living on painkillers after that. Hurt like hell when I tried to lie down but it was fine when standing/sitting thankfully. Still, the ibuprofen had me feeling sick after a couple of days so I switched standard panadol.

    • patricia bremner 14.5

      Oh Iprent, my heart went out to you.

      Many years ago as a fit and active hiker and tramper, I was climbing a bank and was offered a hand literally.

      Suffice to say when the grip slipped so did I. Right onto a large stone. I had broken my tailbones, all 3!!!

      The pain was almost unbearable, and it was before anti inflammatory meds. It was six weeks of misery.

      When the story was told people would snigger, then apologise. I guess where the injury was “seated” caused the mirth.

      Get well soon

      • McFlock 14.5.1

        I must confess, my first thought upon hearing of Lprent’s misfortune was a well-meaning “that’s a bit of a bugger”, then thought better of it due to the double-meaning. Words failed me.

    • weka 14.6

      Is there a reason for having a man’s bike not a woman’s? Seems odd that women’s style bikes aren’t standard. No throwing the leg over the back end.

      • Carolyn_nth 14.6.1

        Traditional reasons. The men’s version was originally stronger, while women rode bikes wearing skirts. So, for “propriety” they were given the lower cross bar, but weaker frame.

        These days, apparently, it’s not so much where the cross bar is, but other aspects of design. All designs tend to have stronger frames.

        • weka

          That’s what I would have thought Maybe it’s cheaper to build a bike with a cross bar.

        • Draco T Bastard

          Interesting article. I bit caught my attention:

          There are about one billion bicycles in existence world-wide. For reference, there are “only” about 500 million automobiles in the world today.

          Now imagine how much damage to the environment would have been done if all those bicycles were actually cars as the RWNJs want.

    • Macro 14.7

      I gave up cycling years ago because, it was for me, literally a pain in the arse. (I guess I could have had it seen to – but those bike seats…)
      Now it seems that there are two ways to develop such a malady.
      Sorry to hear of your accident Lynn and hope the healing is speedy. I know about the worry of concussion too. On rushing back one evening to the dance hall, because I had left my pullover behind, I put my foot where I thought the gutter should be – but was instead a monsoon drain – the civil engineering in Thames in places leaves a lot to be desired – but that is another story (the town having been in administration from 1931 to 1947) and I ended up flat on my face in the middle of Queen Street (the one in Thames). When I came too I couldn’t move – having smashed my left shoulder- and thought “I hope no one runs me over!” Then I saw a flashing light and a police car stopped in the road in front of me. He had been on a call out – the Police station being just up the road a way, and had seen this person running down the street! Hmmm that looks suspicious and he watched me and saw me fall. A large box of chocs was presented to the Police station on my return.

  15. joe90 15

    Makes me wonder about our own hacks, commentators and opinion makers.

    In hearing these individual tales, we’re not only learning about individual trespasses but for the first time getting a view of the matrix in which we’ve all been living: We see that the men who have had the power to abuse women’s bodies and psyches throughout their careers are in many cases also the ones in charge of our political and cultural stories.


  16. patricia bremner 16

    Oh Iprent, my heart went out to you.

    Many years ago as a fit and active hiker and tramper, I was climbing a bank and was offered a hand literally.

    Suffice to say when the grip slipped so did I. Right onto a large stone. I had broken my tailbones, all 3!!!

    The pain was almost unbearable, and it was before anti inflammatory meds. It was six weeks of misery.

    When the story was told people would snigger, then apologise. I guess where the injury was “seated” caused the mirth.

    Get well soon

  17. greywarshark 18

    This seems underhand. Immigration should be transparent. We need to work on this because so often their actions indicate they are a bit thick in the head.


    More on Oz.

    • McFlock 18.1

      It’s certainly irregular, and disconcerting.

      The court thing is odd – I was under the impression that even if he had name suppression for something, it would still be on court documents and just not publishable.


  18. Tanz 19

    Why doesn’t someone in the Labour ranks tell Ardern to pull her head in? She is embarrassing NZ on the world stage, and only four weeks in. Out of her depth and childish, NZ deserves much better than this. Winston, what say you now?? The silence is deafening…are people who voted Labour having buyers remorse?? I knew she wasn’t up to the job, but it’s an absolute nightmare so far. There is a reason more people voted for National than Labour and the Greens combined!
    Bill English runs circles around Ardern in the PM stakes.

    • She is embarrassing NZ on the world stage, and only four weeks in.

      No she’s not.

      And I’m pretty sure you didn’t say anything about when John Key embarrassed us on the world stage.

      Why the double standards?
      Is it because Jacinda is a woman?
      Or is it because she’s Labour?

      There is a reason more people voted for National than Labour and the Greens combined!

      And there’s a reason why most people didn’t vote national at all – no matter how much you try to hide from that fact.

      Bill English runs circles around Ardern in the PM stakes.

      No he doesn’t. Too bloody conservative.

      • McFlock 19.1.1

        Grieving is a process.

        Personally, I quite hope that national stay aroung 37-44%. Otherwise the tories might ditch the nats and come up with a competent friend for them. At the moment Billy No-mates and his band of moaning minnies have nobody to make them look sane.

    • Grey Area 19.2

      Always good to get an update from the alternate universe on Planet Key.

    • North 19.3

      You were just panting for some bullshit controversy weren’t you Tanz? Fuck off with your ‘remorse’. Run around in any circle you care to stumble into troll!


    Get better soon Iprent,

    I did my left knee in during a capsised 12ft dingy accident last december, and it is just comming back to use now, as I had many weeks restup and slow exersise using a $30 floor cycle “mini exercise bike” from Kmart, to slowly mobilise my knee again and lots of hot baths using hydrogen peroxide or baking soda.

    • North 20.1

      Oh you poor folks. Hope conditions are improving and pain goes to nothing. Not comparable to your accident injuries but being of an age I’m noticing that I’ve always bloody well got something ‘niggling’. Bit annoying really. And blow me down I’ve got very cognisant of that institution ‘the weather’. And I need korero about ‘the weather’. What is it?

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    Dr Matt Boyd, Prof Michael Baker, Prof Nick Wilson The Global Health Security Index which considers pandemic threats has just been published. Unfortunately, NZ scores approximately half marks (54/100), coming in 35th in the world rankings – far behind Australia. This poor result suggests that the NZ Government needs to ...
    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    19 hours ago
  • Climate Change: Thank Winston
    The Zero Carbon Act is inadequate, with a weak methane target designed to give farmers a free ride. But it turns out it could have been worse: Climate Change Minister James Shaw was so desperate to get National on board, he wanted to gut that target, and leave it in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    20 hours ago
  • Illicit markets and Bali Booze
    The Herald reprints an Australian story on a couple of tragic deaths in Bali from drinking cocktails that had methanol in them.  The story argues that methanol is likely the result of home distillation. But what the young tourists were experiencing was far from a hangover. They’d consumed a toxic cocktail ...
    SciBlogsBy Eric Crampton
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  • This is not what armed police are for
    Last month, the police announced a trial of specialist roaming armed units, which would drive round (poor, brown) areas in armoured SUVs, armed to the teeth. When they announced the trial, they told us it was about having armed police "ready to attend major incidents at any time if needed". ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    24 hours ago
  • Spain’s failed electoral gamble
    Spain went to the polls today in the second elections this year, after the Socialists (who had come to power in a confidence vote, then gone to the polls in April) rejected the offer of a coalition with the left-wing PoDemos, and instead decided to gamble n a better outcome ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 day ago
  • The astroturf party
    National has finally rolled out its "BlueGreen" astroturf party, fronted by an array of former nats and people who were dumped by the Greens for not being Green enough. Its initial pitch is described by Stuff as "very business-friendly", and its priorities are what you'd expect: conservation, predator-free funding, a ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 day ago
  • How to cheat at university
    A couple of days ago I attended (and spoke at) the University of Waikato’s “LearnFest” event. There were lots of talks and sessions on very diverse aspects of teaching, mostly at tertiary level. One was by Myra Williamson from Te Piringa Faculty of Law here at Waikato, on Contract Cheating ...
    SciBlogsBy Marcus Wilson
    1 day ago
  • How NZ was put on world maps using a transit of Mercury
    There will be a transit of Mercury – the planet Mercury will pass across the face of the Sun – taking place at sunrise in New Zealand on Tuesday, 12th November. It was by observing such an event 250 years ago that James Cook and his scientist colleagues were able ...
    SciBlogsBy Duncan Steel
    2 days ago
  • Georgina Beyer: We need to be able to talk without being offended
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    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 days ago
  • The anti-fluoride brigade won’t be erecting billboards about this study
    If FFNZ really put their faith in “Top Medical Journals” they would now be amending their billboards to recognise new research results. Image from FFNZ but updated to agree with the latest research. ...
    2 days ago
  • Chosen To Rule? What Sort Of Christian Is Chris Luxon?
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    2 days ago
  • War of the worms
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    2 days ago
  • Marvelly shows us how to be a feminist without feminism
    by The Council of Disobedient Women Lizzie Marvelly: “I may have missed this… has @afterellen gone all terf-y? Or am I reading something incorrectly? “ https://twitter.com/LizzieMarvelly/status/1191840059105742849 After Ellen is a lesbian website that is unashamedly pro-lesbian, as you’d expect. So why is Ms Marvelly so bothered about lesbians having their ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    3 days ago
  • Out of the past – Tories to revive racist laws from the 16th century
    Did you know there once was a time when it was illegal to be a gypsy (aka Romani) in Britain?That was between 1530, when the Egyptians Act was passed, and 1856, when it was repealed.Amongst other things, the act forbade the entry of 'Egyptians' into England, ordered those already there ...
    3 days ago
  • 1000 of these now
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    SciBlogsBy Grant Jacobs
    3 days ago
  • Has Shane Jones Just Saved NZ First?
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    3 days ago
  • Climate Change: As predicted
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Let this never be forgot
    In the spirit of Remember, remember the fifth of November, let's keep this in mind FOREVER.
    Oh dear. Extraordinary interview on PM with Andrew Bridgen and @EvanHD just now. Bridgen was defending Jacob Rees Mogg’s Grenfell comments. Evan asked him if JRM had meant to say he would have left ...
    4 days ago
  • Too Late To Change Capitalism’s Flightpath?
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    4 days ago
  • Whooping cough vaccine works well despite its imperfections
    Pertussis (whooping cough) is a conundrum. It is a disease that was described hundreds of years ago and the bacteria that causes it (Bordetella pertussis) isolated in 1906. We have had vaccines for about 80 years but this disease is defiant in the face of human immunity. I wanted to ...
    SciBlogsBy Helen Petousis Harris
    5 days ago
  • Climate Change: Passed
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Retailing of vaping products – New NZ Research
    Dr Lindsay Robertson, Dr Jerram Bateman, Professor Janet Hoek Members of the public health community hold divergent views on how access to vaping products or electronic nicotine delivery systems (ENDS) products should be arranged. Some believe ENDS should be as widely available as smoked tobacco and argue for liberal ...
    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    5 days ago
  • Justice for Bomber
    When the Police were trying to cover up for the National Party over Dirty Politics, they went all-in with their abuses of power. They illegally search Nicky Hager's house, violating his journalistic privilege and invading his privacy. They unlawfully acquired Hager's bank records. They did the same to left-wing blogger ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Britain’s climate tyranny was unlawful
    Last month, in response to a wave of protests by Extinction Rebellion, the British government purported to ban their protests from the whole of London. It was a significant interference with the freedoms of expression and assembly, and another sign of the country's decline into tyranny. But now, a court ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • More crime from the spies
    Last year, the Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security reported on significant problems with the intelligence warrant system. While they were unwilling to declare any warrant "irregular" (meaning unlawful) due to the recent law change, they were also not willing to give the system a clean bill of health. Now, they've ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Vaccination, compulsion, and paternalism for the lower orders
    The National Party has come out in support of encouraging greater vaccination uptake. But it sure isn’t the way I’d do it. National’s suggested docking the benefits of those on benefit whose kids aren’t keeping up with their vaccinations. Some in National have suggested extending that to payments under Working ...
    SciBlogsBy Eric Crampton
    5 days ago
  • Global Protests Rage On: But Slogans Are Not Plans.
    Feeding The Flames: It is simply not enough to demand an end to “corruption”, or “inequality”, or the overbearing influence of the authorities in Beijing. These are just “lowest common denominator” demands: the sort of slogans that pull people onto the streets. They are not a plan.WHERE’S THE PLAN? Across ...
    5 days ago
  • 11,000 employed under Labour
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Boycott this democratic fraud
    The Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade Committee has called for submissions on Andrew Little's tyrannical Terrorism Suppression (Control Orders) Bill. Normally I encourage participation in the democratic process. I am not doing so in this case. Instead, I encourage all of you to boycott this submissions process, and to post ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Why Mars is cold despite an atmosphere of mostly carbon dioxide
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    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    6 days ago
  • Climate Change: Ban private jets
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Climate Change: Untold Suffering
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • The left and violent misogyny
    by Phil Duncan Here’s just a few of the kind of threats issued day in and day out against gender-critical women – feminists, marxists, etc – overwhelmingly by MEN (albeit men identifying as women). “Kill all Terfs”. “Shoot a Terf today”. “All terfs deserve to be shot in the head”. ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    6 days ago
  • Imperialism and the iPhone
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    RedlineBy Admin
    7 days ago
  • The freshwater mussel housing crisis: eviction by invasive weeds?
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    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    7 days ago
  • Back it up Luxon: endorsing the destructive past is not actually the way forward
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    exhALANtBy exhalantblog
    7 days ago
  • Good riddance
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: D-Day
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Winston is right
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Media impartiality
    Sky's economics editor, Ed Conway has posted a Twitter thread responding to a claim that - as far as I can see - Labour never made:
    Are NHS operation cancellations at an all-time high? That's the impression you might have been left with if you read this story from the ...
    1 week ago
  • Finish what’s on your plate
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    SciBlogsBy Genomics Aotearoa
    1 week ago
  • Gainful Employment: A Cautionary Tale.
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    1 week ago
  • New Zealand should not fund bigotry
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • New Fisk
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • More tyranny in Australia
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Submission for rationality and science against the assaults of pre-modernism and post-modernism
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    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • My loyal readership of … Cam girls and Pornbots?
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    1 week ago
  • Worth repeating forever
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    1 week ago
  • Lutte Ouvriere on the explosion in Chile
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    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Wage theft – I’m fucking over it.
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    PosseBy chloeanneking
    1 week ago
  • On The Rebound.
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    1 week ago
  • Rabbi urges congregation to vote against Corbyn
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    2 weeks ago
  • My absurdly optimistic prediction
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    2 weeks ago
  • October ’19 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
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    2 weeks ago
  • A mountain of a challenge in banning glyphosate
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    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    2 weeks ago
  • This government has a problem with secrecy
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • A small New Zealand songbird that hides food for later use provides insights into cognitive evolutio...
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    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    2 weeks ago
  • Referenda on Euthanasia – NZ First’s Victory – or a Major Miscalculation?
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    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    2 weeks ago
  • Corbyn the Mighty vs BoJo the Clown
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    2 weeks ago
  • Public health, externality, and vaccination
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    SciBlogsBy Eric Crampton
    2 weeks ago
  • Happy Halloween
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Twenty thousand leagues under the sea
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    SciBlogsBy Marcus Wilson
    2 weeks ago
  • Climate Change: Disclosing the risks
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • MPI fails again
    Yesterday a dairy company was fined $483,000 for repeatedly failing to report listeria in its facility. Its a serious fine for a serious crime: listeria is a serious disease, and they were effectively trying to kill people with it. But there's another story hidden in there, and its not a ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Gay Men Address Gender Identity
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    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • National’s Going Gangbusters.
    Criminal Enterprises: Gangs are not welfare institutions. Nor are they a substitute for the family their members never had. They are ruthless, violent, criminal money-making machines. That is all.OKAY, first-things-first. Gangs exist for one purpose – and only one. They are a sure-fired, time-tested institution for making crime pay – ...
    2 weeks ago
  • “Action for Healthy Waterways”: Some big ticket actions that the Government has neglected
    Prof Nick Wilson, A/Prof George Thomson, A/Prof Simon Hales, Prof Michael Baker The NZ Ministry for the Environment has produced a valuable discussion document with many good ideas for improving the health of waterways in New Zealand. But there are important gaps. In this blog we consider three big-ticket items ...
    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    2 weeks ago
  • ADHD and fluoride – wishful thinking supported by statistical manipulation?
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    2 weeks ago
  • “Line the wasters up!”: Yes, NZ, it’s “bash the poor!” time again with ya mate Simon…
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    exhALANtBy exhalantblog
    2 weeks ago
  • A partial release
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Climate Change: California burning
    Its fire season in California, and the state is on fire again, with tens of thousands evacuated and millions without power as forests and homes burn. And its so bad now that some are asking whether parts of the state are now too dangerous to inhabit:Three years in a row ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago

  • Week That Was: Historic action on climate change
    "Today we have made a choice that will leave a legacy... I hope that means that future generations will see that we, in New Zealand, were on the right side of history." - Jacinda Ardern, Third Reading of the Zero Carbon Bill ...
    4 days ago
  • Tax-free deployments for Kiwi troops
    Darroch Ball, New Zealand First List MP A Member’s bill has been proposed that would provide income tax exemptions for all New Zealand Defence Force (NZDF) personnel while on operational deployment overseas. The Income Tax (Exemption for Salary or Wages of NZDF Members on Active Deployment) Amendment Bill proposed by New Zealand First ...
    4 days ago
  • A balanced Zero Carbon Bill passed
    Rt Hon Winston Peters, New Zealand First Leader New Zealand First is proud to have brought common sense to the Climate Change Response (Zero Carbon) Amendment Bill, which passed its final reading in Parliament today. Party Leader Rt Hon Winston Peters says months of hard work went into negotiating a balanced ...
    5 days ago
  • Paramedics’ status to be recognised
    Jenny Marcroft MP, Spokesperson for Health New Zealand First has listened to calls to recognise paramedics as registered health professionals under the Health Practitioners’ Competence Assurance Act (the Act). Today, the Coalition Government announced plans for paramedics to be registered as health practitioners under the Act, and the establishment of a ...
    1 week ago
  • Week That Was: 2,000 teachers in two years
    We began the week by commemorating the New Zealand Wars and celebrating a major increase in the number of teachers. Then, we were busy supporting offenders into work and getting our rail back on track after years of underinvestment. And that's just the start! ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Winning an election one conversation at a time
    In October I was sworn in as the Mayor of Lower Hutt. It’s the privilege of my life to serve Hutt people as their Mayor. There is something really special to be able to serve the community where I was raised, and where I live.   ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Closer cooperation with Korean horse racing industry
    Rt Hon Winston Peters, Deputy Prime Minister, Minister for Racing Racing Minister Winston Peters met with Korea Racing Authority Chairperson Nak Soon Kim in Seoul today to discuss closer cooperation between the New Zealand and Korean horse racing industries. As part of the visit to the Seoul Racecourse, Mr Peters witnessed ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Otago to lead digital creativity
    Hon Shane Jones, Minister for Regional Economic Development The Provincial Growth Fund (PGF) is investing $10 million to establish Otago as the centre of New Zealand’s creative digital industry over the next ten years, Regional Development Minister Shane Jones announced today. “The initiative will bring us closer to the vision of ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Young Otago students encouraged to take on forestry careers
    Hon Shane Jones, Minister for Regional Economic Development The Provincial Growth Fund (PGF)’s skills and employment programme will help young Otago people into long-term forestry careers, Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones announced today. Te Ara Mahi will invest $63,000 in the 2020 school year to support eight 17 and 18 ...
    2 weeks ago
  • PGF backing Dunedin’s waterfront ambitions
    Hon Shane Jones, Minister for Regional Economic Development The Provincial Growth Fund (PGF) will support local plans to revitalise and stimulate economic development opportunities in Otago, Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones has announced. The four Regional Economic Development Ministers have approved an in-principle investment of $19.9 million towards the region’s ...
    2 weeks ago
  • M. Bovis eradication progress welcomed
    Mark Patterson, Spokesperson for Primary Industries New Zealand First is pleased to have received the Technical Advisory Group (TAG) report on the Coalition Government’s Mycoplasma bovis eradication efforts, which shows significant progress in the fight against the disease. New Zealand First Spokesperson for Primary Industries, Mark Patterson, says the report’s findings ...
    2 weeks ago
  • PGF boosts Otago’s engineering and manufacturing sector
    Hon Shane Jones, Minister for Regional Economic Development Hon David Parker, Minister for Trade and Export Growth The Provincial Growth Fund (PGF) is investing to support economic growth opportunities for Otago’s engineering and manufacturing sectors, Regional Development Minister Shane Jones and Trade and Export Minister David Parker announced today. Almost $20 million ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Minister Peters discusses Pacific challenges and denuclearisation in Seoul
    Rt Hon Winston Peters, Deputy Prime Minister, Minister of Foreign Affairs Foreign Minister Winston Peters and his South Korean counterpart, Kang Kyung-wha, discussed in Seoul today opportunities to work more closely in the Pacific and the situation on the Korean Peninsula. Mr Peters and Minister Kang confirmed New Zealand and the ...
    2 weeks ago
  • PGF supports high speed broadband for marae at Parihaka Pa
    Hon Shane Jones, Minister for Regional Economic Development  Hon Nanaia Mahuta, Minister for Māori Development The three marae in the historic Parihaka Pa complex in Taranaki have been upgraded to high speed broadband with the support of the Provincial Growth Fund (PGF), Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones announced today. “Connecting the ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Advancing Pacific Partnerships 2019 launched
    Hon Ron Mark, Minister of Defence Minister of Defence Ron Mark will today launch the Advancing Pacific Partnerships 2019 Defence Assessment  during a speech at Te Papa.  The Assessment outlines how Defence will partner with our Pacific Island neighbours and invest in Pacific regional security architecture. The Plan aligns with the Coalition ...
    2 weeks ago
  • PGF funding could transform Gisborne company into “beacon of employment” in two years
    A new Provincial Growth Fund investment could create about 80 new jobs in Gisborne over the next two years, turning a local small business into a “beacon of employment” in the process. Regional Economic Development Parliamentary Under-Secretary Fletcher Tabuteau said the PGF’s Te Ara Mahi funding stream would provide $1.6m ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Week That Was: Two years of progress
    This week, we’re taking action on climate change, expanding trades education – and celebrating two years of progress! ...
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