Open mike 23/05/2021

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1. You_fool 1

   23 May 2021 at 10:30 am

   As some of you might remember, a friend and I have a podcast on the Englush Premier League, as well as occasionally other sports. We have released two podcasts in the last week, one on the European Supwr League and then right on the heels of that, our most listened to podcast, another podcast. This time we are back to the classics and talk about the EPL, looking at who might end 3rd and 4th, who will be promoted from the Championship, and could Arsenal, Spurs and Liverpool get relegated because of the fallout from the European Super League?

   https://ninesixfourtwo.tumblr.com/post/651787605884780544/arsenal-spurs-and-liverpool-to-be-relegated

   In the next 2 weeks we should have another podcast released about the ESL and also have one coming on the NZRU and the silverlake deal
   • Treetop 1.1

     24 May 2021 at 3:17 pm

     Interesting how your above comment links up today with Bashir comments on open mike below. Bashir is now being exposed for his fake documents to do with footballer Terry Venables on daily mail UK.
2. Incognito 2

   23 May 2021 at 2:19 pm

   Did anybody listen to Peter Dunne on Magic Talk's Sunday Café casting doubts on the PM’s recollection of the Mother of all Budgets in 1991?

   https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/05/ironic-of-prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-to-recollect-1991-mother-of-all-budgets-when-she-would-have-been-11-years-old-peter-dunne.html

   The PM had only just turned 11 on Budget Day in 1991.

   It sounds like he was patronising, arrogant, and possibly cringeworthy with his reckons.
   • Muttonbird 2.1

     23 May 2021 at 2:35 pm

     He said:

     I think most of us would struggle to recall our recollections of significant political events at the age of 11.

     Peter Dunne has not been paying attention. Clearly our Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern is not "most of us".

     She has often talked about forming her social and political views very early growing up in provincial New Zealand. Why wouldn’t she have been impacted by Ruthanasia? Particularly when all around her would have talked about, or been affected by, it.
     • Treetop 2.1.1

       23 May 2021 at 2:58 pm

       Not sure which one I heard it on from Robertson this morning either Q&A or a replay of the Nation. 1.3b for Transmission Gully.

       How much did Dunne initially say it would cost?
     • ghostwhowalksnz 2.1.2

       23 May 2021 at 5:14 pm

       Dont people who remember her at school say she was 'very political' even then.

       At intermediate school, when the Auckland Star arrived in letterbox every night , I would read the news section throughly.
   • millsy 2.2

     23 May 2021 at 3:55 pm

     I remember the benefit cuts, and I am the same age as the PM. I remember parents not being able to afford presents for their kids, or school lunches, or having the choose between paying rent or buying medication for their kids. I remember being asked by one of the teachers at my primary school if I had a phone, and I thought the question was ridiculous as as far as I was concerned, everyone had a landline phone – I didn't realize that some people didn't have a phone due to it costing too much. I also remember the rise of food banks around the country, and market rents for state housing.

     My family and I (thank goodness) weren't affected by the benefit cuts, but that doesn't mean I wasn't aware of the impact.
   • Heather Grimwood 2.3

     23 May 2021 at 6:57 pm

     We knew main world and NZ political events well before eleven years of age because they were talked about at home,at other people’s homes and at school. As well Dad had us listen to parliament at times and in wartime to shortwave propaganda from Europe to teach us what propaganda was.
3. Treetop 3

   23 May 2021 at 3:17 pm

   The worst piranha I have been following is Oprah Winfrey. I think that Harry Wales needs to take a break away from doing any pod casts. I said to someone the other day that he clearly has PTSD and he is obsessional about some topics. My concern is that he has another child due soon and having to deal with what Martin Bashir did to his mother to obtain an interview.

   The media which I have been following is daily mail Australia or UK. Both papers are frenetic. Winfrey should know better as Harry is under strain and she and other media need to give him his privacy.
   • greywarshark 3.1

     23 May 2021 at 9:59 pm

     Poor Harry – where did he learn during his supposed years of counselling earlier on, that the media was your friend. He needs to develop some natural methods of blending in to the environment so he doesn't get noticed and swatted every time he moves. Some moths turn the colour of bark and when staying still on a tree are invisible. Same ploy should be adopted by the young mother. Or all else we will see at checkout counters is those predatory-women's mags with front pages devoted to their every move, sucking up their blood and sweat so the media moguls can make a huge profit. Let those people go!
     • Treetop 3.1.1

       24 May 2021 at 8:46 am

       There is a lot of transference and counter transference going on. Gutter trash magazines, social media, print media, pod casts are what they both need to stay away from.

       PTSD can become unstable. Reframing the events/incidents and understanding the triggers is a circuit breaker. Each day is a challenge for a person with PTSD due to flash backs and triggers.
4. RosieLee 4

   23 May 2021 at 4:54 pm

   One of the most awful images I have in my head is that of those two boys having to walk through the streets of London behind their mother's coffin. Absolutely inhumane.
   • Anne 4.1

     23 May 2021 at 7:03 pm

     I remember being flabbergasted. They have both since admitted it was the last thing they wanted to do. It was especially shameful to force a 12 year old Prince Harry to walk behind the coffin.

     Of course he has PTSD. Who wouldn't in the current circumstances. Those British tabloid bastards have one hell of a lot to answer for. I'll wager a bet the BBC scandal is insignificant compared to what the tabloids got up to.
     • In Vino 4.1.1

       23 May 2021 at 7:39 pm

       Fully agree, Anne. Being a German-speaker, I ended up learning a lot about the shocking behaviour of the German tabloid press, because a bold German writer or two went underground and worked a year or two as reporter in the German tabloid press (Bildzeitungen) – then revealed all, despite the strong efforts of the West German establishment to censor and repress their revelations.

       Gutter-press is not derogatory enough to describe the tabloids.
       • Treetop 4.1.1.1

         23 May 2021 at 8:13 pm

         I can think of a few coarse words for the abbreviation of the BBC and the deception of tinsel town, both make money from high profile people's misery.

         It is always about making more money. Harry and Meghan sell. I would pack my bags and disappear.

         I do not think it is ethical to interview people when they are struggling and worse when they cannot see it as clearly as they need to.
         • greywarshark 4.1.1.1.1

           23 May 2021 at 10:02 pm

           Gutter press. But they will say that people want it, or why would we buy them and keep them in business. How can we stop our morbid curiosity getting the better of our heads?
           • Anne 4.1.1.1.1.1

             23 May 2021 at 10:58 pm

             Remember the British family who came here for a 4 week holiday a few years back? Stealing, littering, swearing and abusing their way around NZ. There's lots of 'them types' back in Britain and they 're the ones who keep the gutter press in business.
5. Jenny how to get there 5

   23 May 2021 at 10:05 pm

   Vaccine Coctail is better.

   Who would have guessed it?

   https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/mix-and-match-covid-vaccines-trigger-potent-immune-response/
6. greywarshark 6

   23 May 2021 at 10:19 pm

   Wallabies, opossums. rabbits, game animals – introduced pests. Ignorant and uncaring about outcomes. That's a familiar leitmotif throughout NZs activities.

   THE OCCUPATION – NZ Geographic https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#inbox/FMfcgzGkXSVmkqsPMFwpcVltdBsQgBbV

   …At last, the tallies are complete: 2198 dead wallabies. Organisers tell me just as many carcasses are probably lying uncollected in the hills. The competition has made a dent in numbers for another year, but no one is under any illusion. This doesn’t represent any kind of serious victory in the ongoing war on wallabies…

   In South Canterbury, government culling between 1947 and 1956 killed almost 70,000, yet wasn’t able to keep their numbers down and may have even scattered the animals further afield. By the 1960s, up to a million wallabies were thought to be spread across 760,000 hectares of South Canterbury, eating roughly as much grass as 330,000 sheep.

   The government set up the South Canterbury Wallaby Board to tackle the problem. Employing a dedicated team that went farm to farm, killing wallabies with poison and shooting, the board succeeded where the cullers had failed. For more than a decade, wallabies were held at very low numbers. When the board’s government funding was cut in 1989, farmers baulked at covering the cost—people with fewer wallabies on their land resented subsidising those with more. In any case, numbers by this time were so low that the animals no longer seemed like a threat…

   History: In 1874, a farmer released three Bennett’s wallabies into the Hunter Hills around Waimate. Their numbers soon multiplied, and they have been a major problem for farmers since the 1940s. Meanwhile, dama wallabies, originally introduced to Kawau Island by Grey and later released near Rotorua, also began to expand their range…

   In 1870, George Grey’s political career was in tatters. The former New Zealand governor retreated to Kawau Island in the Hauraki Gulf, which he had bought some years earlier.

   On Kawau, Grey pursued his vision of creating a grand estate populated by exotic trees and animals. He planted a spectacular orchard and introduced many foreign animals to the island, including zebra, although these did not survive long. Deer, antelopes, peacocks and emus mooched around Grey’s mansion. Monkeys…

   (I have bolded the bit about the government taking responsibility, and then cutting funding when stupid neolib efficiency and lack of regulation begun the rot that only strong government can cut out to the remains of healthy practices below. Not to resile from doing what is needed because it's too hard, and it costs too much – the piece above tells all about how farmers start edging away from acting co-operatively to manage their problems, despite having the Federated Farmers. Trouble is they can only cope with part of the implicit meanings – they get fed up easily, and are inclined to take to arms when stirred up.)
   • alwyn 6.1

     24 May 2021 at 10:11 am

     "killing wallabies with poison".

     You can't do that! You'll get every anti-1080 nutter in the country demonstrating on your doorstep. And it won't matter what the actual poison might be. Poison works of course but that doesn't persuade the true believers of the evils of the idea.

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