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- Labour’s plan to bring down debt: Your questions answeredYou might have heard a bit of discussion about Government debt lately, as experts weigh in on the COVID-19 economic recovery. If you’re wondering why it’s such a contested topic, or even if you’re unsure of what Government debt actually is, then read on - we’ve got you covered! ...3 weeks ago
- Greens unveil $297m fund to support sustainable food and farmingThe Green Party has released its Farming for the Future Plan, including a $297m fund to support farmers and growers to transition to climate-friendly practices. ...3 weeks ago
- Labour’s plan for tax: Your questions answeredWe believe every New Zealander deserves the chance to make an informed decision on Election Day. We’ve answered some of the most common questions on our 2020 tax policy, including how much money will be raised from our new top tax rate, and how this will be used to control ...3 weeks ago
- Labour’s energy policy shows progress, but more action needed to protect the planetThe Green Party says Labour’s energy policy is a step in the right direction, but the Greens would go further and faster to meaningfully tackle the climate crisis. ...3 weeks ago
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- Pasifika churches gain from PGF funding
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- Māori development receives fundingMāori development projects across the country will receive a total of $18.8 million from the Provincial Growth Fund that will create infrastructure and permanent jobs, Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones announced today. “These projects will support economic development in Northland, Bay of Plenty, Tairawhiti, Manawatū-Whanganui, Waikato and Southland to ...2 days ago
- Hand-up for owners of earthquake-prone unitsFrom today, owner-occupiers of unit and apartments living in earthquake-prone buildings can apply for financial support to fix their homes, Minister for Building and Construction Jenny Salesa says. The Residential Earthquake-Prone Building Financial Assistance Scheme will help unit owners facing financial hardship over earthquake strengthening costs. “We understand how complicated ...2 days ago
- PGF backing successful Māori enterpriseWhanganui will benefit from a Provincial Growth Fund investment in a local food-processing company which will help the company increase production and create jobs, Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones says. Kii Tahi Ltd, which is owned by South Taranaki iwi Ngaa Rauru Kiitahi, will receive a Provincial Growth Fund ...2 days ago
- Hokitika Landmark earmarked for $22m restorationSeddon House in Hokitika, once a hub for government on the West Coast, has been earmarked for government use once again. “Today we’re announcing a $22 million investment from the Government’s $3 billion infrastructure fund for shovel ready projects for the purchase and restoration of Seddon House in the heart of ...4 days ago
- Town halls and war memorials in PGF renovation programmeTown halls, war memorials and other community landmarks across the country will be renovated thanks to grants totalling just under $12.4 million from the Provincial Growth Fund. Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones says more than 1000 jobs are expected to be created during the renovation programme. “Town halls, other ...4 days ago
- Minister of Foreign Affairs makes two diplomatic appointmentsForeign Minister Winston Peters has announced two new diplomatic appointments: • Michael Appleton as New Zealand’s first resident High Commissioner to Sri Lanka. • Tredene Dobson as New Zealand’s next Ambassador to Viet Nam. Sri Lanka “New Zealand is opening a post in Colombo in 2021 because we are ready ...5 days ago
- NZ’s most prestigious conservation award – Loder Cup presented to Graeme AtkinsThe Minister of Conservation Minister, Eugenie Sage, today presented Aotearoa New Zealand’s most prestigious conservation award, the Loder Cup, to the 2020 winner Graeme Atkins while in Gisborne/Tūranga-nui-a-Kiwa. “Graeme Atkins of Ngāti Porou is a Department of Conservation ranger whose contribution to conservation goes well above and beyond his employment,” ...5 days ago
- Early help for whānau who need extra supportThe Government is investing in a new, whānau-centred early intervention prototype designed to strengthen families and improve the safety and wellbeing of children. The new programme, Ngā Tini Whetū, is a collaboration between Oranga Tamariki, Te Puni Kōkiri, ACC and the Whānau Ora Commissioning Agency (WOCA) and was announced today ...5 days ago
- Parliament to install solar and cut carbonParliament is leading by example by taking action to cut its carbon footprint by installing solar and improving energy efficiency, the Minister for Climate Change, James Shaw said today. The Minister confirmed that Parliamentary Services will receive support through the Clean-Powered Public Service Fund to install solar PV and LED ...5 days ago
- Tuvalu Language Week theme promotes community resilience in the face of COVID-19The Minister for Pacific Peoples, Aupito William Sio says the 2020 Tuvalu Language Week theme of “Fakatili Te Kiloga Fou” which means “Navigating the changing environment” is a call on all Pacific peoples to be strong and resilient in the face of COVID-19. “This theme is a reminder to us ...5 days ago
- International sport back up and running in New ZealandThe Government is welcoming today’s announcement that the West Indies and Pakistan cricket teams will tour New Zealand this summer. “A lot of hard work has been undertaken by sports officials including New Zealand Cricket, Netball New Zealand and government officials to ensure that international sport can return safely to ...5 days ago
- 1BT funds for Northland forest taongaNorthland’s indigenous tree canopy is set to grow for the benefit of mana whenua and the wider community thanks to nearly $2 million in One Billion Trees funding, Forestry Minister Shane Jones announced today. Te Komanga Marae Trust has received more than $1.54 million to restore and enhance the native ...5 days ago
- Better health care for West Coasters as Te Nikau Hospital officially openedThe Government has delivered a new hospital for Greymouth and is starting work on a much needed new health centre in Westport, ensuring local communities will benefit from better access to high quality integrated health services. Today, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and Associate Health Minister Peeni Henare officially open Te ...5 days ago
- Government backing local with PGF loanA West Coast distillery will benefit from a Provincial Growth Fund investment that will enable it to expand its operations and create jobs in the town of Reefton, Rural Communities Minister Damien O’Connor and Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones have announced. The Reefton Distilling Co will receive a $928,000 ...5 days ago
- Primary sector exports and jobs up againPrimary sector exports and jobs are up again, demonstrating the sector’s underlying strength amid the COVID-19 global pandemic and US-China trade war, and supporting New Zealand’s economic recovery. Stats NZ today reported New Zealand’s merchandise exports in August were up 8.6% on a year ago, driven by an increase in ...6 days ago
- Clean energy future for more schoolsSchools across Aotearoa New Zealand will be supported by the Government to upgrade to run on clean energy, the Minister for Climate Change James Shaw announced today. The Minister has allocated $50 million from the Clean Powered Public Service Fund to replace, or convert, coal boilers in schools with clean ...6 days ago
- Building business strength with digital toolsNew training and tools for digital commerce will give small businesses, especially in the tourism sector, the support they need to adapt and innovate in a COVID world. Tourism Minister Kelvin Davis and Small Business Minister Stuart Nash have announced details of how $20 million digital capability funding set aside ...6 days ago
- New pest lures to protect natureThe Department of Conservation (DOC) is investing $1.4 million to develop new predator lures that would be game-changers for trapping and surveillance towards a predator-free Aotearoa, the Minister of Conservation Eugenie Sage, announced in Christchurch today. The proposal is to develop long-life lures attractive to a range of predators—rats, mustelids ...6 days ago
- Support for innovative Pacific education responses to COVID-19 needsSupporting new and creative Pacific education practices as part of our COVID-19 response and recovery is the focus of a new $28.5 million Pacific Education Innovation Fund announced today by Associate Minister of Education Jenny Salesa. “There is already an incredible amount of innovative and creative work going on in ...7 days ago
- Eligibility expanded for COVID-19 leave supportThe expanded scheme will cover: People who have COVID-19 like symptoms and meet the Ministry of Health’s criteria, and need to self-isolate while awaiting the results of a COVID-19 test. People who are directed to self-isolate by a Medical Officer of Health or their delegate or on advice of their ...1 week ago
- Seasonal work visa available to more peopleThe Government is putting in place a range of immigration policy changes to help fill labour shortages in key industries while ensuring New Zealanders, who have lost jobs due to COVID-19, have the chance to find new employment. “Two key sectors we are moving to help are horticulture and wine ...1 week ago
- More border exceptions for critical rolesThe Government has established class exceptions for border entry for a limited number of veterinarians, deep sea fishing crew, as well as agricultural and horticultural machinery operators. “Tight border restrictions remain the backbone of the Government’s border strategy to protect New Zealand against COVID-19 and ensure New Zealand citizens and ...1 week ago
- Crown will not appeal Dodds v Southern Response decisionThe Crown will not appeal the Court of Appeal decision in the Dodds v Southern Response case, Grant Robertson announced today. “Southern Response will be paying the damages awarded by the Court to Mr and Mrs Dodds shortly. The Crown was already meeting their legal costs for this appeal. “The ...1 week ago
- Crucial PGF investments for NorthlandThe Provincial Growth Fund is investing nearly $30 million in a diverse range of projects that will create immediate and long-term jobs and lift economic and social outcomes for Northland and its people. Deputy Prime Minister Winston Peters and Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones made the announcement today in ...1 week ago
- $27million investment in global vaccine facilityThe Coalition Government has committed to invest $27 million in COVID-19 vaccine development through the global COVAX Facility, Foreign Minister Winston Peters announced today. “The COVAX Facility is a key part of our COVID-19 Vaccine Strategy to obtain safe and effective vaccines. It allows us to invest in a high-quality, ...1 week ago
- Government backing Māori landownersThe Government will provide up to $1.69 million through the One Billion Trees programme to Māori landowners to make their whenua more productive through the planting of forests, both native and exotic, and improve economic and environmental outcomes, Forestry Minister Shane Jones has announced. “Around 1.5 million ha of land ...2 weeks ago
- New tools to make nature more accessiblePeople planning to head outdoors now have a resource that lets them know how accessible an area is for people with varying levels of mobility, Minister of Conservation Eugenie Sage announced today. The Halberg Foundation, Sensibel, and the Department of Conservation (DOC) have launched Accessibel, a new tool which helps ...2 weeks ago
- PGF makes Māori history more accessibleOne of the most significant battle sites of the 1860s Land Wars will receive $2.96 million from the Provincial Growth Fund to improve the site and help tell the New Zealand story to visitors, Māori Development Minister Nanaia Mahuta and Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones have announced. Nanaia Mahuta ...2 weeks ago
- Making it official: The journey of te reo Māori | Kia whakapūmautia: Ngā piki me ngā heke o te r...The journey towards recognising Māori as an official language and taonga has been captured as a web series and launched today during Te Wiki o te Reo Māori, announced Associate Arts, Culture and Heritage Minister Carmel Sepuloni. “Te reo Māori is a living language, and understanding its significance, and pathways to ...2 weeks ago
- Better-than-forecast GDP reflects decision to protect New ZealandToday’s better-than-forecast GDP figures show the expected impact of the decision to act quickly to protect New Zealanders from the global COVID-19 pandemic. GDP fell 12.2% in the June quarter from March, reflecting decisions to close New Zealand’s borders and enter Alert Level 4. “This result was better than the ...2 weeks ago
- Boost for COVID-19 related Pacific education needsThe Government is investing $39.7 Million over four years to support the educational needs of Pacific learners and families in the regions hardest hit by COVID-19, with Auckland getting an immediate boost, Associate Minister of Education Jenny Salesa says. “Like all New Zealanders Pacific families want learners to do well ...2 weeks ago
- More resources for kiwi conservationNew Zealand’s goal of 100,000 kiwi by 2030 is being helped by an extra $19.7 million in funding to accelerate iwi and community efforts to protect kiwi, Minister of Conservation Eugenie Sage announced. “$19.7 million of Jobs for Nature funding is being invested in kiwi conservation activities including increased predator ...2 weeks ago
- Improving access to affordable electricityEnsuring New Zealanders can get the best deal on their electricity takes a step in the right direction today with the South Island launch of the EnergyMate pilot run by the Electricity Retailers’ Association, says Minister of Energy and Resources, Dr Megan Woods. EnergyMate is an industry-led programme providing coaching ...2 weeks ago
- Government achieves 50 percent women on state boardsMinister for Women Julie Anne Genter announced today that the Government has reached its target of 50 percent on women on state sector board and committees – setting a new record level of women on state sector boards. “This Government is committed to having more women in leadership roles - ...2 weeks ago
- Record transport investment to help economic recovery and save livesTransport Minister Phil Twyford released today the final Government Policy Statement on land transport (GPS) 2021 which outlines the planned $48 billion investment in services and infrastructure over the next decade. “The final GPS supports our Government’s five-point plan for economic recovery by confirming our record investments in transport infrastructure ...2 weeks ago
- Advancing clean energy technologyThree ambitious and cutting-edge research programmes that will lift New Zealand’s advanced energy technology research capability over seven years, have been supported by Government today, says Research, Science and Innovation Minister Megan Woods. The projects will each receive a share of $40.7 million investment from the Strategic Science Investment Fund. ...2 weeks ago
- Major milestone reached in Pike River Re-entryThe critical area for forensic examination known as Pit Bottom in Stone has been reached in what is a major milestone for the Pike River re-entry project, Minister Responsible for Pike River Re-entry Andrew Little announced. “The infrastructure located in Pit Bottom in Stone is of very significant interest in ...2 weeks ago
- Economic recovery guides Govt response to retirement income policy reviewThe Government is working on how New Zealand’s retirement income policies and settings can best support Kiwis in light of the COVID-19 economic recovery, with the help of the Retirement Commissioner’s latest review, Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister Kris Faafoi said. “The Retirement Commissioner’s three-yearly review into New Zealand’s retirement ...2 weeks ago
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Pacific Media Centre Newsdesk Indonesian police forcibly dispersed a student protest near the Cendrawasih University (Uncen) in Jayapura, Papua, yesterday and the police “denied any clash” even though video footage shows action by heavily armoured security forces. The students were protesting against an extension of Special Autonomy (Otsus) for Papua. ...7 hours ago - Faster public health response might have saved some aged care residents’ lives: Brendan MurphySource: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Michelle Grattan, Professorial Fellow, University of Canberra Federal Health Department Secretary Brendan Murphy has admitted some COVID deaths in aged care might have been prevented if there had been a quicker public health response. Murphy, Chief Medical Officer until mid year, told ...8 hours ago
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- Regional Pasifika churches receive $10m from PGFRegional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones says 27 churches will benefit from the funding, as part of the Covid-19 response and recovery plan. ...12 hours ago
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- Exporting Corruption DownunderFree Webinar. Thursday 15th October, 6.30 pm- New Zealand; 4.30 pm - Australia and 8.30 am - Berlin Join our Australasian/international discussion on foreign bribery on Thursday 15 October. Foreign bribery is not an abstract phenomenon; it has huge ...13 hours ago
- A sustainable Australian video game industry? Production rebates are a small, important stepSource: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Brendan Keogh, ARC DECRA Fellow, Queensland University of Technology In a first for Australia, the South Australian government has announced a new rebate for video game development. Companies will be able to recoup 10% of production costs on projects spending at least ...13 hours ago
- ACT announces infrastructure policyACT says it would allow central and regional governments to establish 30 year infrastructure partnerships in order to streamline projects if elected. ...13 hours ago
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- Two people charged with ‘obtaining by deception’ in NZ First foundation investigationThe Serious Fraud Office has filed a charge of 'obtaining by deception' against two people following its investigation into the New Zealand First Foundation. ...14 hours ago
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- Winston Peters holds ‘important’ media conference as SFO releases NZ First Foundation in...New Zealand First leader Winston Peters is holding what he calls an 'important' media conference at 5pm - the same time as Serious Fraud Office (SFO) plans to release a statement on its investigation into the New Zealand First Foundation. ...15 hours ago
- SFO lays charges over NZ First Foundation inquiry – all you need to knowTwo individuals have been charged by the Serious Fraud Office, but neither is an MP. What’s the skinny? The Serious Fraud Office announced in a 5pm statement that two people have been charged with “obtaining by deception” following its inquiry into the New Zealand First Foundation and donations and loans provided ...15 hours ago
- Cautious Optimism Toward Labour’s Pledge To Increase Cochlear Implant FundingToday’s announcement by the Labour Party that, if elected next month, it would increase cochlear implant funding has been met with cautious optimism by New Zealand’s two providers of cochlear implant services. Southern Cochlear Implant Programme (SCIP) ...15 hours ago
- Soy, oat, almond, rice, coconut, dairy: which ‘milk’ is best for our health?Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Leah Dowling, Lecturer in Dietetics, Swinburne University of Technology A trip to the supermarket presents shoppers with an overwhelming number of milk choices. And far from just being the domain of the modern hipster, plant-based milk alternatives are going mainstream. These alternatives ...15 hours ago
- Advance NZ party takes exclusion from debate to courtThe Advance NZ party is taking legal action against MediaWorks after it was not invited to take part in the network's minor party leaders debate. ...15 hours ago
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- Record corporate fines don’t deter: here’s a ‘frank’ fix to make penalties biteSource: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Michael William Blissenden, Professor of Law, University of New England All things considered, Westpac’s record A$1.3 billion fine for breaching anti-money-laundering laws could have been worse. Each of the alleged 23 million breaches of the Anti-Money Laundering and Counter-Terrorism Act between 2010 ...16 hours ago
- Pacific television training initiative boosts region’s broadcastersPacific Media Watch Newsdesk Television New Zealand and Pacific Cooperation Broadcasting Limited (PCBL) have launched a new training programme to help broadcasters across the region deliver a premium news product to their audiences. Designed and led by 1 NEWS’ Pacific correspondent Barbara Dreaver and produced by Lee Taylor, the 10-week ...16 hours ago
- Greens ‘right On Track’ With Bold Transport PlanKāpiti Coast commuter rail campaigner Gwynn Compton has endorsed the Green Party’s new Future of Transport plan which includes new hybrid trains, electrification and double tracking from Waikanae to Ōtaki, and eventually rapid intercity passenger ...16 hours ago
- Creativity blossoms in the shadow of the virus (with seed money from taxpayers who may not be aware...
We have acknowledged on previous occasions that the Point of Order Trough Monitor was not calibrated to pick up every example of dubiously spent public money. But when our monitor misses examples of eyebrow-raising grants, investments, loans and what-have-you, other monitors and watchdogs are on the job. The Taxpayers’ Union ...17 hours ago - Vaping Ban In Hamilton Makes Absolutely No Sense – AVCAAotearoa Vapers Community Advocacy (AVCA) is deeply disappointed that Hamilton City councillors unanimously resolved this morning to ‘include vaping alongside smoking as a prohibited activity in Smokefree areas in reference to the Smokefree Outdoor ...17 hours ago
- Greens plan to connect provinces, major cities via rapid passenger railA multi-billion dollar public transport plan is how the Green Party aims to reduce emissions and congestion if elected. ...18 hours ago
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Employment laws. No breaks entitlement.
Considering quitting my job as a form of protest.
Had enough of this shit.
Yep good.
Businesses paying minimum wage which are not prepared a man a decent days pay for a decent days work, are now going to strip the workers of tea breaks etc?
Bugger them and everyone who supports them.
More people should give up on employers and go on the friggin’ dole. Employers like this deserve shit all.
My suggestion is that they get together with their workmates and start a cooperative. The boss goes bankrupt and they’re still employed.
Unfortunately, the high unemployment that National is maintaining, would work against them.
join their union
we don’t call them ‘unions’ any more..we call them ‘associations’..
..(‘union’ is like a scary-word..like ‘ebola’…and ‘bennett’..)
..and the workers flag is no longer ‘deepest-red’..
..it is a washed-out pink..(some say it is a pale-blue..)
..and the labour party is now called ‘the refresh party’..
..and it comes with built-in bubbles..
..do try to keep up..!
lol, sounds quite pleasant now..
Nah lets frighten the bosses there phillip, call them syndicalist associations.
or maybe just ‘the syndicate’..?
(..’y’see..!..this is how me and the boys down at ‘the syndicate’ sees it..
..teabreaks..?..yeah..!..eh..?..and we don’t want no trouble..but..!’..)
..and ‘the labour party’..
..could change to ‘the enforcers’..
..vote for ‘the enforcers’…!..they’ll make it happen..!
..(that’s better than ‘vote positive’..
..and who the fuck will own up to that one..?
..that ‘vote positive’ dog..?
..whose brainfart-idea was it..?
..we demand public-flagellation..!
public-flagellation..! Your problem Philip, is your to damn soft.
Public-Flagellation followed by Crucifixion only way to teach these slackers the meaning of winning.
Or take a leaf from the great propagandists of our time (the Koch brothers), rename the union subs “rates” and call them “Ratepayers Associations” – and confuse the hell out of everyone.
Tracy Join their union-yes-yes That seriously is what is needed.
Disregard the smart (dumb)-arse rhetoric of others trying to be clever.
Here’s how you do it: start your own business, compete against the former employer you hate, do better.
While they have already established infrastructure and employ people under more profitable conditions. Thus winning the race to the bottom.
Herald’s headlines continue to beat up ‘terror.’
To set up New Zealanders to accept new draconian spying and ‘terror’ laws for their master Key.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11346883
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11342460
“Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”
Benjamin Franklin
Brian Rudman writes well on the subject.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11342354
as does Gwynne Dyer…
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/wanganui-chronicle/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503423&objectid=11339588
the thing is that keys excuse for lying to the voters is that things are evolving quickly.
NOTHING has escalated post election to suggest things are worse today than sept 19.
Nothing has changed to say that things are worse today than they were 18 months ago.
Funny that implementing measures directed against their own citizens appears to be the main mode of dealing with this “terrorism” BS. You might almost think there was another actual agenda going on.
well put
It’s worrying that this govt are so keen to lock doors across the country based on the actions of solitary nutters or dicks on the other side of the planet.
That’s just the excuse. IMO, why they’re doing it is another reason entirely and I don’t think the majority of people would like it if they knew.
Why is Canada so shocked that people want to attack its soldiers?
And how the word "terrorism" is now a propaganda term for anything the state doesn't like – and for justifying anything under the sun the state decides to do.
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/10/22/canada-proclaiming-war-12-years-shocked-someone-attacked-soldiers/
(in a world bereft of heroes..this guy is one of mine..)
“..Meet the Researcher Who Thinks Cancer Can be Prevented – Even Reversed – Through Diet..” (ed:..disclaimer:..this man is a personal hero of mine..)
..The professor emeritus in nutritional biochemistry at Cornell University said research has proven that consumption of animal products –
– including meat – fish – and dairy –
– triggers chronic diseases and impaired health –
– and poses a greater risk than heredity or environment.
He has linked casein – a protein in milk – with breast cancer.
His lifelong professional focus has been cancer and nutrition –
– and Campbell says that our national and global fight with cancer has targeted the wrong enemy.
Though he is scholarly and genteel – Campbell is not reserved.
He’s impatient and blunt..”
(cont..)
(ed:..that is one of the most compelling arguments to stop consuming animals..and their bye-products..
..the overall better health that vegans seem to enjoy..) (cont..)
http://whoar.co.nz/2014/meet-the-researcher-who-thinks-cancer-can-be-prevented-even-reversed-through-diet-ed-disclaimer-this-man-is-a-personal-hero-of-mine/
Sounds like an idiot following an idiot.
http://www.alternet.org/food/meet-researcher-who-thinks-cancer-can-be-prevented-even-reversed-through-diet
Quite agree with you Phil, Prof Colin Campbell is a well respected scientist. The film Forks over Knives is available from your library and when it was shown at cinemas around the world was responsible for many people changing to a plant based diet.
He, along with other top researchers who advocate a plant based diet should be listened to.
Reverse cancer by diet is like reverse cancer by prayers.
Sad.
“The researchers say: ‘Our study has shown that Austrian adults who consume a vegetarian diet are less healthy (in terms of cancer, allergies, and mental health disorders), have a lower quality of life, and also require more medical treatment.”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2596012/Vegetarians-healthy-poorer-quality-life-meat-eaters.html
Vegetarians are ‘less healthy’ and have a poorer quality of life than meat-eaters
Vegetarians visit their doctors more often and are more prone to allergies
They also have ‘a 50% increased risk of both heart attacks and cancer’
They are also more likely to develop depression and anxiety disorders
But vegetarians tend to be more active and less likely to drink and smoke
‘daily mail’ as source..?
..pandering to their meat-advertisers..?
..hilarious..!
..why not ‘the beano’..?
..and there is also fox news as a fall-back..
..run..!..run young allen..!..run like the wind..!
..run to the fox news website..and key in anti-vegetarian/vegan..
..i am sure the results will be bountiful…
Discounting the science and research because of the delivery man? That’s as sad as claiming diet reverses cancer.
Perhaps some vegan mouthpiece is more ‘reliable’ lol
How about http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2014/04/01/study-vegetarians-less-healthy-lower-quality-of-life-than-meat-eaters/
from yr source/’evidence’..(from cbs..atlanta..written by some hack..)
“..However, the researchers do caution that continuing studies will be needed to substantiate some of the rather broad dietary distinctions, associations presented in this current research…”
..’rather broad’ being the key words..you’d think..?
(and..)
“..The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention notes that healthy diets rich in fruits and vegetables may reduce the risk of cancer and other chronic diseases for all dietary groups..”
did you even read it..?..bonehead..?
“from yr source/’evidence’….’rather broad’ being the key words..you’d think..?”
And praising a nut jobs claim that not eating meat reverses cancer is > than scientific research.
“did you even read it..?..bonehead..?”
Especially the table with cancer rates much higher for veggies than meat eaters.
http://www.plosone.org/article/fetchObject.action?uri=info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0088278&representation=PDF
i shd also have noted earlier..
..i consider the vegetarian diet to be only incrementally better (healthwise..) than being a carnivore..
..(especially as so many vegetarians treat dairy as a meat-substitute..
..and so often end up consuming more dairy than carnivores do..)
..and it is not ‘my’ evidence/opinion..
..it is the work of campbell that is being highlighted here..
..i also have collected a serious wedge of ‘evidence’ over the years..
..everything from nutritional info..to gourmet vegan recipies..
..and much more..
http://whoar.co.nz/category/vegan-stuff/
fill yer boots..!
..i’ll see yr ‘daily mail’..and i’ll raise ya…
Not my daily mail and the data isn’t theirs from a hack journo.
Just read the pdf, veggie.
It’s no surprise you don’t agree with the findings as they completely rubbish the ‘reverse cancer’ crap from your personal hero.
I advise you to collect all the ‘supporting’ data you can, even from saddos like above and base your opinion on that. That won’t be one eyed and disingenuous at all.
whoare lol
i’ll take that as yr retreat..
..and chrs 4 yr role as foil..eh..?
..you fufilled it well..
..you..with yr ‘daily mail’-prop..heh..!
That’s just another example of where you get it wrong by jumping to the wrong conclusion.
To surmise
http://www.christianpost.com/news/i-believed-god-would-heal-me-and-he-did-says-man-cured-of-inoperable-cancer-video-103568/
http://thecancercureexperiment.com/how-to-pray-to-be-healed-of-cancer/
https://www.cai.org/testimonies/healed-cancer-through-power-jesus
http://www.alternet.org/food/meet-researcher-who-thinks-cancer-can-be-prevented-even-reversed-through-diet
Vegetarians also eat a lot of dairy which is the point that Prof Campbell makes.
A vegan diet has been shown to improve health in many people. There have been many long term studies on this, the SDA church have carried out many such studies all of which were favourable to a vegan diet.
The diet also gives a 100% guarantee that you are personally doing your bit to prevent animal cruelty.
I can’t see that people with a vegan diet have superior outcomes to people with a vegeterian diet. With the proviso that high levels of dairy intake is dangerous to human health.
aside from the cancer/casein-link campbell claims to have proven..?
..and of course there are also the twin-facts that we in nz have world-beating rates of consumption of dairy/cow-bye-products..
..(i think only iceland beats us..)
..and we also have world-beating rates of those cancers increasingly linked to the flesh/fat/bye-products diet..
..(especially breast cancer..)
..so make of that what you will..
..but if i were a woman with a family history of breast cancer..
..i’d be vegan..toot suite..!..
..why wouldn’t ya..?
http://www.thestar.com/life/2008/01/04/top_10_false_health_scares.html
“Red meat and processed meat often have a high fat content, so if you eat them too often you could get fat – which has been shown to be a risk factor for several cancers, including breast cancer and colorectal cancer. A more accurate report would focus on how obesity as a whole can increase risk for cancer.”
‘the star’…some hack-piece from 2007..?
..really current/cutting-edge evidence you are proffering here..eh..?
..having difficulties finding any..?
..you’re funny..!
In response to your unbalanced account I googled ‘false health scares’ and it was top link.
Again, you seem to attack the messenger and not the message, so in response I’ll repeat in case it hasn’t sunk in yet.
“Red meat and processed meat often have a high fat content, so if you eat them too often you could get fat – which has been shown to be a risk factor for several cancers, including breast cancer and colorectal cancer. A more accurate report would focus on how obesity as a whole can increase risk for cancer.”
There’s also, from 2012 http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellness/health-scares-ignore/story?id=16712712
Including the classics ‘Nitrites in Cured Meats Cause Cancer’ and ‘Mercury in Fish is Dangerous’
have crap ‘evidence’..just repeat it..that’ll work..!
..heh..!..yr still being funny..!
That’s laughable from a man who claims as his hero an old fuck who thinks not eating meat can reverse cancer as his proof and evidence.
You are quite within your rights to refute the facts, but you are so out on the extremist edge, your conclusions, skewered and slanted as they are, aren’t worth the price of the electrons they’re printed on.
‘old fuck’..?
..ok..time to close this one down..methinks..
..consider it done..
“‘old fuck’..?”
The old fuck charlatan who claims cancer can be reversed by not eating meat. You know, you linked a story about him. Short term memory loss?
“..ok..time to close this one down..methinks..”
True to form. The last bastion of the vanquished.
Off you go, and don’t forget to take your ball when you run home crying 😉
hmm..!.. The professor emeritus in nutritional biochemistry at Cornell University..(who you know as ‘old fuck’..)
..(an obvious charlatan..!..)
..vs. anonymous table-leg chewing standard-commenter/nutbar..
..(an obvious authority..!..)
..who to believe..?
..i’m torn here..!
“table-leg chewing standard-commenter/nutbar..”
To be fair that sounds more like a description of yourself, but whatever works for you.
Has to be remembered though, I haven’t ever claimed or advocated one can reverse cancer by abstaining from eating meat. That would be nuts.
“..(an obvious authority..!..)”
Yes it’s true. I can suss out a vested interest nutjob easy as.
“..who to believe..?”
I’m guessing you’ll go with the old fuck charlatan claiming he can reverse cancer by not eating meat.
Devoted aint you?
“..who to believe..?”
Institute of Social Medicine and Epidemiology, Medical University Graz, Graz, Austria
Table 3 Page 4
http://www.plosone.org/article/fetchObject.action?uri=info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0088278&representation=PDF
why do u insist on presenting vegetarian-‘evidence’/arguments..
..(however dubious..)
..in a vegan-argument..?
..was that all u cd find..?
..and austria..?
..they mainline beef-fat there…
..(and u do know i am not paying foil-overtime-rates..eh..?
..this is all on yr own time..)
Leaving the racism aside, If you have exact data scientifically on par with the Austrian study that makes your point, show it.
“..(and u do know i am not paying foil-overtime-rates..eh..?..this is all on yr own time..)”
I did note note the much higher levels of mental health issues affecting non meat eaters.
With smoking pot, that’s an enormous risk. Better have a double whopper with cheese and hope for the best.
being ‘racist’ against austrians..?
..that is both funny – and ironic beyond words..
..in its’ own unique way..
..heh..!
..u r getting quite good at that clown-role..eh..?
False mass generalisation about a group of people based on their nationality. Sounds racist to me.
The extras like clown role, and being funny mean nothing to me.
I know why you do it, it’s predictable and ultimately it won’t work.
It weakens your paper thin argument even more.
well the thing is..
..u do talk so much shit…eh..?
.and u clearly aren’t very bright with it..
..so the occurances of involuntary-humour on yr part..
..are often and regular..(c.f..’racism’/austrians’..heh..!..)
..hence yr earning of the ‘clown’-moniker..
..it’s all yr own work..eh..?
“The diet also gives a 100% guarantee that you are personally doing your bit to prevent animal cruelty.”
That doesn’t bother me at all in regards to food.
it does ‘bother’ others..
And?
you really need that explained..?
Nope. You think it’s animal cruelty to practice animal husbandry full stop, how are you going to be impartial and differentiate about what constitutes cruelty and best practice?
You can’t. True?
industry ‘best practice’ = sow-crates..
“industry ‘best practice’ = sow-crates..”
See, told ya you couldn’t do it. 😉
industry ‘best-practice’ = the macerator…
You still haven’t got your head around it then.
How are you going to be impartial and differentiate about what constitutes cruelty and best practice?
Clue – You can’t.
if ‘best-practice’ = cruelty..
..that makes ‘best practice’ an oxymoron…
So you can’t have a rational informed opinion on what constitutes animal cruelty.
No worries.
um..!..pain/suffering/killing = ‘cruelty’..
..what can’t u understand about that..?
..u can call it ‘best practice’..u can call it what u like..
..that doesn’t alter what it is..
Best practice isn’t pain and suffering or cruelty. Best practice keeps animals well fed and cared for until slaughtered.
The killing isn’t cruelty. It’s the end of the line and avoids us eating our meat while it’s alive, which I agree would be…Unlike animals like lions and tigers who gnaw down on wriggling prey. Buggers.
So not altering ‘what it is’ depends on whether ‘what it is’ is a bad thing or not.
Your extreme position precludes you from holding a common sense baseline position on the subject. What do you not understand about that? lol
if ‘commonsense’ = animals suffering/being killed..
..u r correct ..i am unable to take such a ‘commonsense’-view..
..anything else..?
Exactly, your extremist views prevent you from debating the issue in good faith.
“..anything else..?”
Blame the green party for something, just for old times sake 😉
.
@ The Al1en
Thank you for taking the time with this conversation debunking all theories on the relationship between diet and cancer that there is no evidence for.
Until there is evidence, they are all possible topics for worthy research (noting many theories based on anecdotal evidence have already been researched many times). Science (as compared to religion) never claims the absolute answer on anything.
There does appear to be some links between diet and cancer, and they add weight to similar advice for overcoming obesity: Moderation of every major food group; Maintain a healthy weight; Keep fit.
I will not criticise the actions of the terminally ill. Depending on how much individuals have prospered from trading in money, or investing in lotto, they may gain some temporary mental relief by throwing some of that excess wealth at an abundance of medical and religious charlatans. (An alternative approach may be to throw the same amount of money at medical research, that may benefit future generations … or other worthy causes such as improvements in animal husbandry?)
Mr. Botany (B.)
i do ‘blame the green party’ for having idjits such as yrslf in their ranks..
Another urinalism. I’m not a member of any political party and in no way consider myself to be in anyone’s ‘rank’.
Swing and a miss.
@ bold brian..
so..the fevered imaginings of the allen..+ the daily mail..+ an article in the star..from 2007..
..vs..The professor emeritus in nutritional biochemistry at Cornell University..
= a ‘debunking’ in yr dictionary..eh..?
..i think it is more a case of what u want to believe/deny..eh..?
“There does appear to be some links between diet and cancer”
There sure is, and meat, like other food groups, should be taken in moderation.
“they may gain some temporary mental relief by throwing some of that excess wealth at an abundance of medical and religious charlatans. An alternative approach may be to throw the same amount of money at medical research, that may benefit future generations”
Let’s have them throwing dollars at getting well nourished kids in warm homes with a future to look forward to first.
Future generations would benefit from that right now.
“so..the fevered imaginings of the allen..+ the daily mail..+ an article in the star..from 2007..”
Or, and much less partisan and disingenuous
Institute of Social Medicine and Epidemiology, Medical University Graz, Graz, Austria
V
The professor emeritus in nutritional biochemistry at Cornell University..
“..i think it is more a case of what u want to believe/deny..eh..?”
That, my friend, is the irony moneyshot.
Want a tissue? lol
do you have a brain big enough to remember that when the first cancer warnings about tobacco were issued to a (mainly smoking) world..
..that the howls of derision then were similar to yrs now..
(..there are always the pig-ignorant to have to deal with..
..some are just noisier than others..)
I think we’ve had our fair share of screen space with this one, save to say it’s nothing like tobacco and cancer warnings being laughed away by big money.
People have been eating meat since after adam ate all the apple pies and looked how marvellously resilient and adaptable a species we have become. Billions of meat eaters with a shared ancestry and an impressive increasing life expectancy say it aint so.
What we’re eating along with our recommended meat allowances, processed, refined, chemical sprayed, irradiated, added to and de-nutrionalised as it often is, is where I’d start looking for carcinogens and cancer causers in food with suspicious intent. But that’s an uneducated opinion I haven’t googled so I could be way off like you.
Have read similar elsewhere pu. Makes entire sense and we may well all wake up to it one day, like we have after being told thalidomide was safe.
One day in the future people will look back on us in the same way we look back at early surgeries and hospitals and shake our heads at the fuss that was raised when washing of hands was put in place in such institutions…. duh
i just go on the evidence before my eyes..
..in that i know people who have been vegans for over 30 yrs..
..and they all seem to enjoy rude good-health..
..especially when compared with their animal-eating age-contemporaries..
..the differences are stark..
..(i’m just a newcomer..only been vegan for about 15 yrs..)
..(and..heh..!..local media is featuring the person who just won a national body-building title..
..he’s a vegan..go figure..!..eh.?..)
Never mind the statistics and science don’t back up your evangelist agenda.
Mr Al1en, that same line was told to us about;
245t
1080
cigarettes
margarine
sugar
atom bombs
formaldehyde
thalidomide
asbestos
they all had science in support. At the time.
panadol
mobile phone radiation
common food colourings
Well then, you’ll be easily able to point out where science is wrong now, won’t you?
what ‘science’ is that draco..
..aside from atkins nut-jobs..you’ll find no ‘science’ saying ‘eat-more-animals!”..will ya..?
..in fact most ‘science’ advises at best small amounts of red meat..a couple of times a week..
..’science’ most kiwis laugh in the face of..
..as they wolf down that weekly recommendation..
..most breakfasts..
..there is no ‘science’ making yr case..
..none to ‘prove wrong’..
..(and you left the ‘sniff!’ of disdain out of yr comment..
..where wd u like me to insert it..?..
..after the ‘then’..the ‘now’..or at the very end..?..after the ‘you’..?
..and u cd have multiple-‘sniffs’..if you so choose..
..it cd carry them..)
“most ‘science’ advises at best small amounts of red meet..a couple of times a week..”
You would have gotten away with it if it wasn’t for those pesky scientists
Thanks for confirming that you can do no such thing.
here ya go..draco..
http://whoar.co.nz/category/vegan-stuff/
..more than u can poke a stick at..
Elephant hurling does not an argument make
So why are the police so obsessed about it?
operation 8 and all that..
“you’ll be easily able to point out where science is wrong now, won’t you?”
“Thanks for confirming that you can do no such thing.”
If that’s to me, could you repeat the question using the Austrian study as context?
Why would you think that replies to vto & pu are replies to you?
I mentioned science above and didn’t want to appear rude by ignoring your comment if it was meant for me.
What I should have done was looked closer at the post number sequence before letting manners get the best of me.
The Al1en and phillip u
The evening skirmish. Keeping the standard alive!
aspartame …
I’m not sure atom bombs were ever considered safe.
used to sprinkle them on me fried eggs every morning…
How did “atom bombs” ever have ‘scientific support’ for healthy living?
I think you just made that whole list up, vto.
Can you please provide references for the “lines” that we were told on all of these promoting healthy living?
Some on the list still have legitimate use, depending on how they are used, where they are used, and how much is used: 1080, margarine, sugar, formaldehyde. (Two of these obviously not being used as foods)
No sorry I don’t have time to provide such references for all of those. Discount the list accordingly if you wish – non problema to me
re atom bombs have you not seen any photos or information on people observing early atom bombings close at hand? Maralinga?
“re atom bombs have you not seen any photos or information on people observing early atom bombings close at hand? Maralinga?”
Yes I have seen that but I am pretty sure it wasn’t because they thought they were safe. They were purposely exposing people to radiation they knew wasn’t safe in order to study the results.
Actually, without quibbling over individual items within your list, it was the weight of scientific evidence that demonstrated those things weren’t safe.
Otherwise we’d still be showing kids cartoons that say Laramie Smooths (with the healthy asbestos filter) are the best smoke to have after a growing child’s breakfast of coloured sugar gelatinised in lard.
That’s right – genuine scientific evidence, not some scientific evidence conjured up for some alternative commercial outcome as were the early “scientific” studies for each of those items.
So how do we know when scientific evidence is genuine and credible instead of something paid for and angled for a particular outcome? In Phil U’s case here – the science for and against the link between diet and cancer?
Do we have to look behind the research to see who is paying for it? Other hidden strings?
Perhaps we should ask our wise and considered PM John Key – he thinks that you can buy scientific research in order to suit particular outcomes.
@ vto..
“..Do we have to look behind the research to see who is paying for it?..”
..that can often be illuminating..
Sometimes research is robust, genuine, credible, and still wrong – random result, or an unknown confounding effect.
It’s the weight of evidence overall that directs the conclusions. The more nuanced the association, the more evidence is needed. All the research is accounted for unless obviously fraudulent, incomplete/flawed, or demonstrated to be an aberration by the rest of the research in the field.
Who’s paying for it doesn’t always mean the findings are flawed – ISTR in the last few years that the Koch bros commissioned a report into AGW (which they argue doesn’t exist), only to have the lead author change his tune and say it exists. But what if he had the same level of integrity and found that something had been missed by the vast majority of scientists? They would have tried to find where he screwed up, but over time it would have become the consensus view that agw was nonexistent. It comes down to the quality of the research.
“So how do we know when scientific evidence is genuine and credible instead of something paid for and angled for a particular outcome? ”
When it is testable and repeatable.
‘it was the weight of scientific evidence that demonstrated those things weren’t safe.’
Americans are lucky USA FDA commissioner Frances Kelsey did not subscribe to that view.
Dr Kelsey refused to approve thalidomide for use in America until it could be proved to be safe, despite pressure to do so.
She spared Americans the misery of the thalidomide birth defects by adopting the precautionary principle.
By the weight of scientific evidence
wikipedia:
‘By the weight of scientific evidence’
Don’t be disingenuous.
The point was Kelsey applied the precautionary principle while the evidence was gathered, which prevented people from being harmed. And that’s what ordinary people care about, not points on an academic scoreboard.
‘Nevertheless, a total of 17 children with thalidomide-induced malformations were born.’
Some people got the drug overseas, thus there was a few cases.
Actually, the point was that these days practical human knowledge is usually advanced by the accumulated weight of evidence in one direction or another, rather than one particular piece of research by one particular researcher.
I actually agree that (in general) drugs shouldn’t be used without thorough testing, and funnily enough thalidomide is a major justification for modern testing regimes.
There’s stronger processes on several levels now, but we need regulators who think for themselves, like Kelsey, more than ever.
I would commend Dr Alistair Humphrey of the CDHB in this respect, for this week opposing the proposed Selwyn nitrate levels, and recently breaking ranks on the MPI vegetable poisoning report.
By the way, Kelsey did not look at the evidence in totality when applying the precautionary principle. Her focus was one particular English study showing nervous system damage.
One scientific study can warrant the application of the precautionary principle.
One study might outweigh all the others, yes. But it would have to be a doozy, hence why I used the word “usually”.
Good god people, why so old fashioned? High development cost drugs require massive sales in the first few years to hit budgeted targets before patents run out. This namby pamby approach around waiting for more evidence and yet more evidence to come in is a nonsense when you have only a short time to get a drug to market and make it a blockbuster hit to recoup investor money and make a decent return.
Just do your final safety trial in the market is a good way to go: in that scenario everyone is a winner, investors make big bucks, researchers get more people in more settings to do their research on, patients get access to newer more effective drugs faster.
The way to do it.
Keto!
http://www.ruled.me/keto-diet/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketosis#Diet
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aiHSPoto_YqsNTDvL-g60nytMnyH-CJcCbiAx1IEUYM/edit
http://www.epilepsy.com/learn/treating-seizures-and-epilepsy/dietary-therapies/ketogenic-diet
(I’ll get me coat)
heh..!..fried cheese..!
..whoar..!
i just go on the evidence before my eyes..
..in that i know people who have been vegans for over 30 yrs..
..and they all seem to enjoy rude good-health..
..especially when compared with their animal-eating age-contemporaries..”
I agree that a vegan diet can be incredibly healthful, but it’s a pity about Morrissey’s health woes
And the child I knew who had cancer growing inside her little body before she’d even moved on to non-human milk.
Only in the US
And the reason given is because the person behind bars has given enough to society that a university asked him to speak (via recording) to a few students.
Some US judge just sentenced a woman to a few days jail time because she wouldn’t mow her lawns, contrary to local bylaws.
Welcome to the (highly propagandised and highly incarcerated) land of the Free.
Question Time: President Key, did you have sexual relations with that girl?
‘President’ Key: The answer is No, not in my capacity as President
Question time: President Key, did you have a toke on that crack pipe?
‘President’ Key: The answer – No, not in my capacity as President
Ad hominem
Ad infinitum
@ adam (6.1)
ad hominem????
“to the man”
Question Time: President Key, have you ever helped to execute a financial attack on the NZ dollar for the profit of private investors.
‘President’ Key: The answer – No, not in my capacity as President
But it wasn’t in his capacity as a man…
You got it McFlock. 🙂 Adam is probably still puzzled.
Inspiring Photo…Norm Kirk meeting Gough Whitlam !
I can’t help thinking what a dwarf Key is compared to those two. In all ways possible.
the reserve bank says making people have 20% deposit has saved existing mortgage holders about 2% in interest rate hikes. it says the lvr stays until they are happy housing isnt fuelling inflation…
More proof that the market doesn’t work to provide what a society needs and that it just works to enrich a few.
Meanwhile the town house across the road in a desirable part of town in good condition and with the price dropped sits vacant and unsold even though it is situated between two good secondary schools and an excellent primary. and within walking distance of the city. And the sellers have bought elsewhere and must be suffering, they would never have envisaged it sitting for so long. How has raising the deposit helped new house buyers, and people needing a house for their own use? That is the question that gummint should be asking when assessing the worth of this policy. The answer is negative value to them, and just continuing the stress on these people that the housing bubble has caused already.
A government lacking any idea or willingness to form policy that actually deals with our problems, it just sits on the seats in Parliament and their offices, making work for themselves and grooming future business partners, and collecting salary and perks.
And telling people how good they are, while they borrow money and perform SFC tricks in minor form every day. Keeping their supporters happy, is all they need to do. While we try and get a left team that can win. Unfortunately they are confused about which team they are playing for, and taking sidebets on performance!
I am thinking that those Labour caucus members who are uncomfortable with the values, policies,direction or colour red of Labour, and those that are disloyal to the party or its elected leader, and those that tritorously leak info to enemies and media, and those that bring the party into disrepute by their unwise public statements on TV etc, and those that favour Neo liberal RW agenda should all leave and start their own party. Here are some suggestions for such a party:
NAME : Federation Of Kiwi Rogue Socialists. [FOKRS]
COLOUR : Yellowish red with grey spots.
LEADER’S TITLE : The great pretender.
😆 😈
Teehee
whooop!
Not as satisfying as seeing Eric Prince before the courts would be but it’s a start.
Now, after a 10-week trial and 28 days of deliberation, a jury in Washington has found three of the men – Paul Slough, Evan Liberty and Dustin Heard – guilty of a total of 13 charges of voluntary manslaughter and a total of 17 charges of attempted manslaughter.
The fourth defendant, Slatten, who was alleged to have been first to open fire, was found guilty of a separate charge of first-degree murder. Slough, Liberty and Heard were found guilty of using firearms in relation to a crime of violence, a charge which can alone carry up to a 30-year mandatory sentence.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/oct/22/us-jury-convicts-blackwater-security-guards-iraq
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/oct/22/blackwater-iraq-killings-verdicts-watershed-accountability
Jeremy Scahill weighs in.
Just as with the systematic torture at Abu Ghraib, it is only the low level foot-soldiers of Blackwater that are being held accountable. Prince and other top Blackwater executives continue to reap profits from the mercenary and private intelligence industries. Prince now has a new company, Frontier Services Group, which he founded with substantial investment from Chinese enterprises. Among its areas of focus is the African continent. Prince recently suggested that his forces at Blackwater could have confronted Ebola and ISIS. “If the Administration cannot rally the political nerve or funding to send adequate active duty ground forces to answer the call, let the private sector finish the job,” Prince recently wrote.
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/10/22/blackwater-guilty-verdicts/
perhaps David Shearer …would be comfortable with that?
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I am thinking that if the views of the majority of commentators on this site are representative of the views of members of the Labour Party (An assumption that may very well be wrong) then there is a serious disconnect between the Party Membership and the views of potential Labour voters.
In my opinion most of these voters do not significantly care about the differences between the agendas of party members and party caucus, if such differences exist. They simply have an expectation that those differences are (or should be) minor, and should be able to be sorted out easily, in comparison with the more difficult task of forming coalition deals with parties that may be more left, or more right than Labour.
So as much as I will enjoy the privilege of voting for the Party Leader, I still think that the leadership voting system urgently needs to be discarded. Give the responsibility to caucus, coupled with information that comes from polling all eligible voters. Farrar may be a nasty weasel, but he does deliver much better political advice to Dirty John from polls, than Labour will ever get from Party members and affiliated unions.
In fact, Labour does its own internal polling and focus group analysis with UMR.
$$$$$
Where’s Kim Dotcom when you need him ?
@ swordfish (11.1)
Which is little use to all those voting without access to those poll results. Which would be my main point in limiting the voting to the caucus (who I presume do have – or should have – access to such poll results)
The poll result is definitely not the only issue that needs to be taken into account …. but it is a very important issue. Which candidate is the most electable?
(I wonder what those ‘internal’ polls indicated about the preference of the public in the Leadership poll won by David Cunliffe? Did those polls ask that question? Did those polls determine how many more or less people would have voted Labour with each candidate as Leader? Is Robertson in this election gaining any advantage, or not, by declaring his preference for Deputy? These are the sort of questions where the answers are best not filed away in a library.)
Mr. Botany (B.)
There are relatively few NZLP members commenting compared to the numbers of commenters.
Read the about. The site simply wasn’t set up for NZLP members.
There is one site that was largely setup for NZLP members. It was called Red Alert and it is essentially moribund because someone at the site started playing silly games.
@ lprent @ 11.2
I take your point, lprent. Fortunately I did put a significant disclaimer on saying that was the case, or essential to my argument. (Which of course means that I could have left out the possible assumption in total, and still made the same point I wanted to make.) 🙂 My bad.
I guess I should have said something along the lines of if you take the views of any small group eg the commentators on the Standard, the local wrestling club, the operatic society, or even the Members of the Labour Party, they are unlikely to be representative of the opinions of the 40-50% of voters that you hope will cast their vote in the direction of the Labour Party.
If the Party want thats opinion, I think that a much better way is to use intelligent polling. And the results of those polls could be used constructively to help inform the decision of the ‘best’ Party Leader that meets the full needs of the Party.
Mr. Botany (B.)
A game with legs.
The election was rubbish, the left fragmented and all we wanted was the policies to win it.
Asking the brilliant minds, what would a sensible left wing manifesto look like?
Imagine starting a new, well funded party, and you want to show the public what you’re about.
With three years till kick off, what what you tell them?
I actually thought the left as a whole had about the best policy package anyone could manage. Between the greens impmana and labour, we had food for kids, decent wage increases for the neediest as well as the middle class, a real plan to address housing for low and middle income groups, health and infrastructure relief, regional development, clean waterways, and a real chance at getting more jobs and sane security policies.
Something didn’t go well tactically – some say Labour should have gone for the party vote more, but the greens were all about the party vote and didn’t make headway.
Personally, I reckon it was the kdc distraction throughout the campaign, the fizzle on the 15th, and the terror raids in aus two days before, all exploited by a blatantly partizan mass media.
I agree there were some good policies spread around, so perhaps a part of failure was/is in the delivery, and in part the perception ‘the left’ were/are unable to work together despite labour pushing the 3 party government line to counter. The corporate msm and dirty politics a given hindrance.
I am curious as to what a thestandard focussed grouped manifesto would read like, and how much appeal would/could be garnered from the less political out of it.
did you just suggest that the standardistas work together on a manifesto, as in try and work on something together? can we burst out laughing now? 😉
heh
You did, but the caveat was brilliant minds 😉
I wouldn’t have a shot at bringing it together, but an invited guest list could create something cool, contemporary and quite inspiring.
No point in having all the bright ideas to see them wasting on a blog.
‘I did’ or ‘you did read correctly’
I’d send you an invite to input.
That’s not a bad idea actually. If it was a dedicated thread and was well moderated.
I think a series of threads over time, offering a selection of either/or options, proffered by the group for discussion and selection.
I’ll nominate five people and they then nominate five more to form the policy committee and sit back and see what you all come up with if you like?
“No point in having all the bright ideas to see them wasting on a blog.”
That’s my biggest frustration about the place (that and the intelligence wasted on clever putdowns and abuse). Would love to see the passion and thought go somewhere.
I think a series of threads over time, offering a selection of either/or options, proffered by the group for discussion and selection. I’ll nominate five people and they then nominate five more to form the policy committee and sit back and see what you all come up with if you like?
Can you explain that a bit more? Either/or options? Committee working offsite or onsite?
Maybe we can develop the IMP online policy development model more. Using Loomio but also a combination of other online tools if they are required.
Although I am a little hesitant to go down the path of yet more policy development. Coming up with plans to deliver more left wing infrastructure eg community currencies, alternative media channels eg radio, or to extend the reach/capabilities of The Standard, might be a more useful (less Wellington centric) way ahead.
I know your having a laugh but as a new entrant standard follower I have found my self thinking it’s no wonder the left is in trouble if the people here spend so much time arguing.
There are places in the left blogosphere where it’s less fractious 🙂
Hooked this lot know:-)
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/regional/257600/activist-begs-judge-to-stop-house-sale
Looks Penny Bright will have to cough up $33,000 to Auckland Council or end up homeless but with $500,000 to go elsewhere. I cannot see the judge tolerating someone who WONT pay as opposed to someone who CANNOT pay. Hope i’m wrong and Penny gets a fair go.
Are New Zealand MP’s Bullied Into Rubber Stamping War?
I thought it was only the New Zealand First Party where the members of their caucus don’t talk to each other.
This was when Winston chose to nominate Ron Mark for Speaker without even telling Ron about the idea.
The Green Party obviously need to start talking to each other. Then we wouldn’t have to waste thousands of dollars while a Green Party member spends time in Parliament finding out what one of her parties leaders is up to.
From todays questions –
“JAN LOGIE to the Member in charge of the Education (Breakfast and Lunch Programmes in Schools) Amendment Bill: Why has the member adopted the Education (Breakfast and Lunch Programmes in Schools) Amendment Bill?”
There’s more than one bill on that subject isn’t there?
There’s Hone’s bill picked up by Metira Turei
and also a bill by some one else…..
was it Shearer? Or am I misremembering?
You are quite right. I had forgotten about Shearer’s bill.
This is Meteria’s one, taken over from Hone though.
The two bills are, from the Parliamentary website.
Education (Breakfast and Lunch Programmes in Schools) Amendment Bill (Harawira)
and
Education (Food in Schools) Amendment Bill (Shearer)
The name is the one for the ex- Hone, now Meteria bill. And yes I know why she is asking the question. It gives Turei the chance to make a brief speech. A waste of time and money isn’t it?
only because you lean towards authoritarianism, hence figure that giving Opposition MPs any ability or reason to speak is a waste.
” A waste of time and money isn’t it?”
No.
Key being a dick when asked questions is a waste of time and money.
“A waste of time and money isn’t it?”
I think the standing orders committee should consider doing away with patsy questions altogether.
As I understand it, Question Time is for the Opposition to hold The Government to account. I have never understood how allowing ministers to make brief speeches on topics of their choosing assists this purpose.
Just in case you forgot we got ourselves another war here is a reminder Oh and we have been fighting this silly little war for the last 30 years – at least.
Music thethe from album Mind bomb.
So Canada goes to war against some people in the middle east.
Then some of those people in the middle east attack Canada’s military.
what the f#@k did they expect? flowers? to be left in peace?
And then to label this a “terrorist” attack – what a joke. It was an attack on military at war. It was not a terrorist attack it was clearly a military attack.
And to think that Key is putting us in the firing line too ……. brace for it people. Key is bringing war to our islands.
Are you acting [deleted] for the sake of acting [deleted] ?
[r0b: A while back a participant here who had a child with an intellectual disability asked us to crack down on the use of that word as a term of abuse.]
pcplodding, why is it described as a “terrorist” attack when it is an attack on a military at war with the attacker?
Why is it not described correctly as an act of war?
Tell me I am keen to hear your thinking.
@r0b fair call
VTO you are a sack of mindless shit.
That’s a good one.
Now, how about the issue at hand. Got an answer?
It is described as a terrorist attack as it was an attack by a radicalised Canadian designed to cause terror against a civilian target.
http://www.nationalpost.com/index.html?__federated=1
The Canadian military was not and is not at war with the person responsible for this act.
I repeat you are a sack of mindless shit.
No it wasn’t a civilian target.
The person, presumably sympathising with the people Canada has declared war on, attacked a military person. Did you miss that bit? Also, Parliament is generally where orders to go to war are made – an entirely legitimate military target.
Your own description defies the facts.
It is you with the shit for brains, clearly. Go read some history and learn some law idiot.
You are clearly a feral inbred troll
and I am no longer interested in feeding you obvious trolling
fuck me, that was the most useless series of comments I think I have ever come across.
no answer, clearly failing and flailing, so resort to abuse. Loser.
Hey pcplodding – how about this for a bit more …..
Did you notice how on te news tonight there was virtually no description of this military event as a terrorist attack? Go and have a look and listen. Even Key didn’t refer to it as a terrorist attack and he is softening us all up for going to war.
Whatcha gonna do now?
Whatcha gonna think?
eh pcplodding, just a bit more for your brainshit to absorb.
If this person had wanted to actually commit an act of terror then why didn’t he visit a shopping mall, or a hospital or some other such public place?
Why did he choose to attack a soldier with a gun? Why did he choose to attack the seat of Canada’s power with security everywhere and which has gone to war with his people? Why did he choose these military targets instead of a civilian one?
I think you are just one of those people who believes everything you are told. I bet you voted for Key. Mindless. You would have supported the leader of Germany in the 1930s going by your level of thinking.
Hey pcplodding, Canada has been helping drop munitions on to Afghan and Iraqi civilians (oh I’m sorry, dropping munitions on to ‘legitimate targets’ which happen to be right next to the civilians) for years now.
(I guess its now NZs time to help out in this general effort, to make us, you know, safer. Because killing never ends in even more killing).
Maybe you can see now how the West is seen by 3/4 of all peoples as the biggest purveyors of death and terror in the world.
I think Transrail wants to collapse the passenger services.
The rail Christchurch to Picton is cancelled over winter till 26 September.
About a year or so ago the fare was $48 – $100 with specials, backpackers, students, pensioner rates as well.
Now there is only one fare: $159. That will of course cut back the numbers so that eventually the trip will lapse for want of patronage.
Economics with political push.
starve starve starve then deliver the coup de grace – with appropriate crocodile tears for the cameras, of course.
Press statement in relation to search of Nicky Hager’s home
Thursday, 23 October 2014, 12:57 pm
Press Release: Terrace Chambers
Press statement in relation to the search of Nicky Hager’s home
On 2 October 2014, Nicky Hager’s home in Wellington was searched by police. Mr Hager asserted that documents kept at his house were protected by privilege, including because they contained information that might identify confidential sources. Rather than search those documents, the Police sealed them and lodged them with the High Court pending directions from the Court. Mr Hager had concerns that the search was unlawful and sought legal advice.
Mr Hager has now had a chance to consult his lawyers. He believes even more strongly that the Police have acted outside of the law in seizing his property and seeking to search through all of his documents. Mr Hager has decided to challenge the Police’s actions by way of judicial review. He expects to launch those proceedings during the next few days.
In the meantime, the Police are asserting that there is no valid claim for privilege over the documents. The Police are seeking the leave of the Court to file their own proceedings in order to argue that there is no privilege and that they should be allowed to review all of the documents. A preliminary teleconference was held today (23 October 2014) between the High Court, and lawyers for Mr Hager and the Police, to discuss these issues.
My first response to this info. is that the police are acting under instructions from higher up the ladder but how far up the ladder is a very interesting question. In fact is it a ladder which extends beyond NZ? Could the Slater complaint merely be the excuse to sift through Hager’s other work? Example: the FBI/NSA/GCSB modus operandi?
1. The cops, the lawyers and the rest of the government should have to account for every last little bit of taxpayer dollars that they spend turning Nicky Hager over. He hasn’t damaged the NZ public interest one little bit so why the hell are we funding it.
2. What was the timing around raiding him while he wasn’t there. I hope he asks if they have been tracking him to see where he is and who he meets – it all seemed a bit convenient.
3. Yes I assume they want to sift through everything else. If only so they can drift along and lean on a few other people.
The precedent set by this will have far reaching consequences. The irony re Cameron Slater is huge.
If CCTV footage isn’t “property”, what is it?
Did “Tindallgate” (fuck me if I don’t hate these dummheit media labels) just get interesting?
naughty mr key
and a glimpse into the sparse world inside the key brain
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11347190
‘the context around what i think i was doing’ – what a hollow person key is.
q-time next tues promises to be interesting..
..i’m picking there will be a veritable storm of slater-questions for key…
..let the fun begin..!
How many times have you sent important information to the wrong person because you didn’t check the email address?
key says,
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11347165
“At the end of the day I think you’d say it was unfortunate” – ummm what about you johnbo – what do you fink?
I think it’s time for another Leunig cartoon. Obviously in an Australian context (Liberals and Labour) but it transfers equally as well to New Zealand.
The Aliens came in three space ships …….. (with thanks to Leunig) 🙂
heh..!..that leunig is v. funny..
UK police arrest young man who throws a water bottle for ‘Plinth Guy’ protestor to catch. This is the kind of police state assf*ckery which seems to be coming to all FVEY nations pretty much simultaneously.
Kelvin Davis gives Hone Harawira some good hard kicks
About “manning up” over Hone’s hiring an alleged sex offender on Parliamentary Services money – but Davis forgets about a little thing called “presumption of innocence.”
http://www.3news.co.nz/nznews/harawira-hired-sex-offenders-with-taxpayer-money-2014102318
And interesting how these documents were “leaked.” So they think Harawira might stage a come back in TTT 2017 and want to kill that possibility dead ASAP.
Kelvin Davis isn’t very bright and combined with something else about him that I can’t put my finger on makes him a very toxic presence within Labour.
Him and Nash.
Yes. I often see them as one person.
Another Open Mike which has a first half devoted to the cult of Vega. Tomorrow it’ll probably be how the Greens gifted Ohariu to Dunne. It gets a bit boring, just a bit.
You know at first I thought “Cult of Vega” was a reference to something from the film “Contact”!
Then again PU does seem a bit off planet some days! (or as they would say in Babylon 5 “he’s gone beyond the Rim”) 😈