The scientific evidence is clear, reducing inequality with cash injections to the most disadvantaged gives them the resources they need to escape poverty benefiting and enriching the whole of society.
Where does the cash come?
It comes from government which gains its income from taxes on the more well off.
The political representatives of the more well off, like National and ACT are against taxing the well off for any sort of social programs even if those programs would benefit the whole of society. And so will campaign to oppose them.
Fundamental to this campaign is the promotion of the idea, that the poor are indigent, irresponsible, stupid and lazy, and responsible for their own distress and powerlessness.
Relentlessly the representatives of the rich will push the idea, that taxing the well off to fund social programs will only see the less well off spend more on drugs and booze and gambling and other social evils.
Again and again studies like this prove the opposite. That given the resources the poor will use them raise themselves and their families out of poverty.
There is more than one way that society's wealth can be distributed more equitably, While the benefits of governments doing this directly is backed by studies like this.
Governments are not the only agencies that have the power to redistribue the wealth of society more equitably. More traditionally, trade unions have played this role.
I am reminded here of the rise of South Korea to become the economic power house that it is today. This transformation began with the rise of powerful trade unions that led successful struggles to wrest more of that society's wealth for the working people. The increase in well being of the working population led to increases in productivity, the continuing rise in incomes and resources at the bottom of South Korean society led to higher achievement levels for South Korean children in schools leading to more children of working families to be more able to move up to receive the advantages of higher education. The struggle of the trade union movement in South Korea was also linked to the struggle for more democracy and openness in South Koran society.
These hard won advances were fought every step of the way. As will the proven benfits of government led redistribution will be too.
These experiments could lift millions out of dire poverty
Randomized trials are changing the way governments and aid organizations study — and deliver — measures to reduce inequality and poverty.
In 2012, the government of Niger began giving some of its poorest citizens free money. Over the next few years, around 100,000 participating households received 24 monthly payments of roughly US$16 — which more than doubled their typical spending power.
The programme was based on decades of evidence from carefully controlled trials, suggesting that simple cash infusions can transform lives…..
On Saturday Mickysavage, posted in praise of UK union leader Mick Lynch.
Attached to the bottom of his post, Mickysavage added the Green Day rendition of John Lennon's song 'Working Class Hero'.
The Green Day backing video features refugees from tyrannies where campaigns for social justice and against extreme inequality are suppressed with massive violence and oppression. Local ruling elites of these countries, quick to suppress any sort of trade union or democratic activity, are often supported and backed, (and also armed with military aid), by Western powers that benefit from the neo-colonial oppression, exploitation and looting of these countries in an international web of binding business contracts, trade deals and political and military partnership links.
What reminded me of your comment, Barry, and the link you provided to proven studies of how to relieve poverty, was the first line sung by Green Day,
"As soon as you're born, they make you feel small
By giving you nothing instead of it all"
Despite the proven success of the trials in relieving poverty by providing resources and funds to poor people, these trials will never be rolled out as government programs. The international links between the local ruling elites and the ruling elites in the West who in partnership also benefit from the inequality, poverty and low incomes in these countries, (possibly even more than the local elites), will simply not allow it.
It will take a hard fought campaign against these vested interests, the same for the struggle of the RMTU workers, led my Mick Lynch.
Royal Navy could escort grain ships through Odesa blockade
Tuesday May 24 2022, 12.15pm BST
Britain is in discussion with allies about sending warships to the Black Sea to protect freighters carrying Ukrainian grain. A “coalition of the willing” would aim to break Russia’s blockade in weeks by providing a “protective corridor” from Odesa through the Bosphorus….
…..the coalition could include some Nato countries and other countries reliant on the grain.
It is thought that Egypt, which has been hit hard by the wheat shortage, might be willing to take part….
While the US hegemon might regard the Pacific region as a US Lake.
(on a smaller scale), Russia regards the Black Sea as a Russian lake,
Moscow claims it sees ‘true’ plans behind Ukrainian grain coalition
RT – 23 Jun, 2022 13:16
Russia’s foreign minister Sergey Lavrov has said.
“The attempts to organize some kind of international coalition for the implementation of these procedures are aimed solely at interfering in the Black Sea region under the auspices of the UN. And we see this quite clearly,”
UK Foreign Secretary Liz Truss on Thursday also addressed the issue of helping Ukrainian grain leave the ports, saying that it would require “an international effort.”
Both war and climate change have the same drivers.
It follows, that if we can't stop the war, We can't stop climate change.
Stopping war, is stopping climate change.
…..Austria has already had to restart a mothballed power plant running on coal (which is much dirtier as a fuel than gas). Germany is also firing up its coal generators. That’s bitter for a country that had instead been planning to exit coal power altogether. It’s especially wrenching for the Greens, who are running the combined energy and commerce ministry and have to implement this policy U-turn.
Russian warlord Putin gloats at Europe's dependence on Russian fossil fuel supplies while mocking the urgent need to turn toward renewables. A turn which would undermine Europe's (and the world's), dependence on fossil fuels, and Putin's ability to use this dependence as a weapon.
Russian leader has buried the old world order and outlined his view on Russia’s and the world’s future, in a key address
…..“blindly believing in renewable sources” and abandoning long-term natural gas contracts with Russia led to the spike in energy prices last year, according to the Russian leader.
When asked why Mr Ross was allowed to run for election in Botany last year given the earlier complaint about his behaviour, Mr Goodfellow said the matter was simple.
"It was a matter that was raised by a couple of people and was dealt with – and actually to the satisfaction of the parties," he said.
At the time of the agreement Ross was the senior whip for the National Party and one of their best fundraisers. He went on to be promoted to the front bench after serving as Bridges' "numbers man" during the leadership election.
Happy Matariki to everyone. I have a question about the Commercialisation of the celebration. I know it has been discussed recently but, in my opinion, posed by bad faith actors on this site. Am watching the TVNZ Matariki Special and in ad breaks they are advertising a "Give me a Clue Matariki Special" If they can advertise that, why can't other commercial identities use Matariki in their advertising. I'm just asking about consistency. Cheers.
Only really caught up on yesterday's conversation later in the day.
I don't really understand the impulse to determine how others view this holiday, and pre-determine what significance it holds for all.
The Christians I know celebrate Christmas in both the commercialised cultural way, and with attendant church activities and sermons. They neither demand the same from others, or begrudge those that hold different faiths from not recognising the religious component.
I don't know any monarchists that have a particular form of celebration on Queen's Birthday, or unionists that hold particular celebrations on Labour Day. If they do, I've heard nothing from them about how everyone celebrated the same.
Isn't the point of any state holiday is a day to do what you wish, with those you want to share it with?
In response to any references to the commercialisation of a Māori holiday. Well, I view it as a holiday named in recognition of a Māori calendar event, which has been allotted in a multicultural society. The recognition and assignment of that name is enough.
An assumed world view about all Māori is not helpful.
Although, I choose to be a feminist, I have differing ideas about feminism than other feminists, and often disagree on feminism. As a Māori, I recognise that the diversity of individuals and their thoughts and perspectives – as with non-Māori – do not often align. As with other demographics, even if there is agreement on a topic, there remains diverse views on both outcomes and implementation.
In this region, Māori were the prime traders and were exporting produce to England, in the mid-late 1800's. To assume that they would be against trading on a holiday (if the concept of national holiday was understood) is just that… an assumption.
If to be treated and accepted equally is the goal, the the use of Matariki in advertising is an indicator.
Funny thing about this all is that i was asked by Maori – last year and this year – to make "Matariki Stars" for them to give away to children in foster care and children in school.
Should i have refused? Lol, of course not. As a native Caucasian /nonmale/nontrans/formerly known as woman person thingy from a country were we happily invent food to eat for special holidays it was a pleasure for me to make these chocolate stars and i will do them again last year.
Manawatia a Matariki to you Molly. My the ‘new’ year bring you many blessing and happiness.
You could call it commercialisation as it is literally the same as making Easter Bunnies for Easter or Santas for Christmas. It is a product made for sale for that particular day. It just depends on which step of the ideological purity ladder one stands.
To me any holiday needs a special food that you can only get that one day or few days during which the festival/holiday is feted. It makes it a celebration. But i am roman catholic and grew up with pretend drinking of blood and eating of flesh of Christ and thus have no issue with symbolism in food attached to ones culture. Food is part of celebrations.
I don't have a problem with people being paid, and I don't think this is commercialisation in this context either. Commercialisation would be a business making up some product to sell to take advantage of Matariki and putting on a big sale.
I view both to some extend as 'commercialisation, but i don't understand why we are ok with boxing day sales, Easter sales, Queens birthday sales but suddenly draw the line at this holiday. Either we do or we don't. Re- Community thing, making these stars cost money, and i no longer – like many other small businesses my size that used to support various charities fully and for free- can no longer afford to support these charities without at least charging for cost of making hte products that they would like to get from us. Premises, lisencing, material, etc all that costs money.
In fact i am open and working today. Just as i would do on any other holiday. Too poor to not work. 🙂
Boxing Day sales are evil, and a direct result of the whole global system that is killing the planet, enforcing slave labour in poor countries, and undermining worker rights in places like NZ.
I fully support shops to be closed on those days other than essentials.
Like I said, no problem with you making the stars as part of your business, it just wasn't apparent in the first comment where you talked about the stars being given away and I assumed it was a community thing.
and yes, yes, I understand poor people need sales to be able to buy stuff. However politically, we still have to argue against neoliberalism and for a better system. Otherwise we're just saying sorry underclass, this is the way it is, adapt if you can or die or whatever.
A Big Sale that happens to coincide with a public holiday when many flock to the shops & malls to kill time wandering with their heads bent down focussed on the little screens they hold in their hands and spend money to re-fill their materialistic needs. Viva la Commerce!
These neoliberal attitudes are almost impossible to shake. They have become normalised (as in normative), legalised & regulated, and embedded and permeate almost everything and everybody in our society. It took a few decades, but here we are.
Briefly toyed with the idea of a ‘quick’ Post but quickly running out of time, as usual 🙁
From my perspective, giving the role and responsibility of making a statement about neoliberalism and commercialism to this new Māori named state holiday is disrespectful to people as a whole, and a disservice to Māori long-term.
Address the issue across the board, instead of placing that whole conversation and burden on Māori concepts.
You’re accusing me of something I have not committed and reading way too much into it – I did not mention or imply anything specific about Māori and/or Matariki.
But since you provoked me, I’ll give you something to sink your teeth in.
Māori concepts and culture are being (mis-)appropriated all the time, usually for commercial (and political) reasons. At the same time, Māori concepts and culture are under permanent threat, socially, economically (e.g. tourism), and demographically and they are in chronic danger of being assimilated into our Westerns ways. To keep up, to get ahead, and to counteract past damages that have led and still lead to inequality and inequity in our society the answer/solution for some seems to be education, career, success, and then trying (out-)compete with Pākehā in the Pākehā world. In doing so, these Māori, with their heart and spirit in the right place, sell their soul to the Devil and lose their spirit in the process. It is a Catch-22 unless we, collectively as a society as a whole, come together and help their cause. The reaction to this is cries and outbursts and first twisting and then weaponising terms & concepts such as partnership and co-governance.
As you can see from the above rant, hopefully, I am not disrespectful to Māori and do not do a disservice to Māori long-term. Neither am I placing a burden on Māori concepts. You have turned it upside-down and back-to-front.
I don't want to quibble with much of what you say here. In particular I fully agree that culture can be easily misappropriated. We are for example seeing this play out as Putin steals the Russian memory of their honourable role in defeating Hitler, for a wholly debased purpose in Ukraine.
But it is also true that any living culture evolves all the time, adapting as the world around it shifts. We cannot and should not demand the Maori world remain frozen in a kind of fantasy pre-European aspic.
Yes, I agree completely, cultures evolve, which is something entirely different from being assimilated by a dominant and/or colonial culture. What I see happening is ‘Māori- washing’ thanks to the good intentions of PC warriors and the likes. It is superficial and commercial and only has the veneer of the culture it is supposed to represent but it is just empty hollow packaging and meaningless as such. Having good intentions is not the same as doing the right thing.
Te Ao Māori cannot remain frozen “in a kind of fantasy pre-European aspic” because: 1) it no longer exists; 2) who determines this way anyway? If we were to trust and respect and allow Māori some agency in determining these things for, by, and with themselves we would be on the right track, IMO. However, this seems to lead to absurd notions and equally absurd resistance, IMHO.
Final note: I guess that because some of the efforts feel so superficial and meaningless people feel more (easily) inclined to take a stance against them, i.e., they object and attack what they see as ‘virtue-signalling’ and ‘posturing’ rather than a genuine cause.
I apologise. My comment was not directed at you specifically. It was a generalised comment about the idea of treating this holiday in a different way to other state holidays, and addressing the reasons for doing so.
"In doing so, these Māori, with their heart and spirit in the right place, sell their soul to the Devil and lose their spirit in the process. It is a Catch-22 unless we, collectively as a society as a whole, come together and help their cause. The reaction to this is cries and outbursts and first twisting and then weaponising terms & concepts such as partnership and co-governance."
In some cases this may be true, in other cases individuals will make choices that are not congruent with Māori values, because of other reasons, including personal selfishness, ego and sometimes for reasons of opportunity. These universal impediments to collective thinking are also experienced and acted on by Māori and non-Māori individuals.
"As you can see from the above rant, hopefully, I am not disrespectful to Māori and do not do a disservice to Māori long-term. Neither am I placing a burden on Māori concepts."
As I said, this was not intended as being directed at you as an individual, just the general idea that Māori are assigned this responsibility, in such a way in regards to this holiday. I don't believe that is fair.
I'm going to have to re-read these conversations, because I have probably lost track of it as I've come back and forth over the last few hours. I do agree with what you have said above, but I don't think it is the whole picture in regards to Māori and this holiday.
Right. I apologise again. Was making the erroneous assumption that it was in reference to the original question regarding Matariki and the advertising, but it obviously was not.
(I'm leaving the start of this comment, where I got it all wrong, to show that I got it all wrong, and responded to something that you did not say.)
Just letting you know I’ve seen your reply and all is good 🙂
I appreciate and respect your views in general and specifically as Māori and look forward to future convos on this topic. I think your attention is directed elsewhere today 😉
"Otherwise we're just saying sorry underclass, this is the way it is, adapt if you can or die or whatever."
We have been saying that for a while now, in fact in Rotorua we have a street full of 'underclass' people whom we tell just that.
I am very over 'talking points' and purity spirals and the likes. People who have no money or who have obligations in this current environment all have a hustle to survive, and that hustle gives no fucks about holidays, culture, and the purity levels of people in
Academia, Arts, Politics, Pundit class etc who are either on benefits by the government or on good salaries. Those of us who are on no wages by an employer or on a benefit will have to work. And we will work when people are there and go out and about to have a good time.
Boxing day Sale is no more and no less evil then any other sale. People have money, people gift money – specially for young ones and they tend to spend it in their holiday period. And Businesses that would like to stay closed or don't want to incur the expense of paying extra to staff can stay closed. And some do.
I personally like sales to be organised as it was in Germany, i.e. Winter sale the first two weeks of January, and Summer sale the first two weeks of August (might be September not sure) and that is it. Any other promotion needs to be called just that, a promotion.
But keep in mind for some people Boxing Day Sales is a day out with their family.
if you cannot politically analyse (or won't) the dynamics and forces at work in capitalism, including Boxing Day sales, then there's no pathway out of poverty at the class level. There's only adaptation to neoliberalism and sorry for those that can't adapt. That's basically Labour's position.
I'm not arguing purity, I clearly said there are reasons why people need the sales. This is a both/and situation. We can both acknowledge that people need to adapt as well as talk about why this adaptation thing exists in the first place.
Typing on phone promotes brevity. But I do want to reach out and wholeheartedly support your underlying sentiment here. Rational, tolerant and most importantly to my mind, celebrating diversity in our common universal humanity.
The Christians I know celebrate Christmas in both the commercialised cultural way
What does that mean? They have adverts? They try and sell thing on Christmas day?
If people don't see commercialisation as a negative then it makes sense to commercialise Matariki. But commercialisation causes problems in society. Consider alcohol or tobacco or pharmaceutical advertisements. Or if we get to the point of advertising breast binders, puberty blockers and cross sex hormones on TV.
Commercialisation puts pressure on workers to be available on public holidays.
We know from long experience with neoliberalism, that if commerce is given free reign then bad shit happens. Pākehā culture no longer has the sense to keep some things free of that for the betterment of socidety, thankfully Māori does.
In this region, Māori were the prime traders and were exporting produce to England, in the mid-late 1800's. To assume that they would be against trading on a holiday (if the concept of national holiday was understood) is just that… an assumption.
But Māori also had cultural containers for right action, including how to look after the group. It's almost impossible imo to compare 1800s practice with contemporary Pākehā practice given we are so encultured into individuality.
I meant that the Christians I know, do the whole holiday spiel. Including the buying of gifts, etc. Or at Easter, include the pagan symbols of Hot Cross Buns or Easter Eggs. It doesn't seem to create much angst for them to do both.
As an atheist, my family has it's own traditions. One that the children hate – and I love – is that they are not allowed to give me anything, but if they do, it has to be made by them. I sometimes get nothing – but do have several years of short videos made by them as they have grown. My point is, individuals and families create their own ways to mark holidays in ways that are significant to them.
Whether it is because people are a mix of their religious beliefs, and their cultural environment is for the social sciences to provide evidence for.
As an individual, I just know that for several years in my young adulthood, I both looked forward and participated enthusiastically in St Patrick's day. Neither my digestion or inclination trends that way at this stage of may life.
The significance of Matariki as a holiday, is going to be different for all, and that significance will change. Some may celebrate by use of stories and symbols – most particularly in education, maraes etc. Others who have stronger connections to Matariki will probably have their own way of celebrating that is more traditional and proscribed. But many others will just be grateful that they have another day to spend with friends and family.
Exposure to advertising that recognises and promotes the symbols of Matariki, is a commercialised but gentle reminder of the recognition of the Maaori aspect of the holiday, that replicates the advertising of other events such as Easter and Christmas.
I don't consider buying Christmas presents to be commercialisation per se. Depending on how people do it I guess, it's definitely become much more consumerist over my lifetime especially with children.
People and families marking/celebrating Matariki in their own way is also not commercialisation. Has someone objected to people doing this?
Exposure to advertising that recognises and promotes the symbols of Matariki, is a commercialised but gentle reminder of the recognition of the Maaori aspect of the holiday, that replicates the advertising of other events such as Easter and Christmas.
Oh, interesting. See I see the holiday as wholly te ao Māori, and Māori have been generous to share it with non-Māori. I don’t see it as a mainstream, Pāhekā dominant culture holiday with a Māori name that has a Māori aspect. I suspect this right here is the fundamental disagreement about commercialisation.
Plenty of ways for people to come to understand what it means without commercialising it, and I can't see how commercialising it will improve understanding of te ao Māori, I would guess it will make it worse. We will see.
"Oh, interesting. See I see the holiday as wholly te ao Māori, and Māori have been generous to share it with non-Māori."
That make sense. We are approaching this from completely different perspectives.
I consider it to be a government recognition of Māori by the assigning of a name of a state holiday. The significance to some Māori and is neither enhanced or impacted by this act. A separation of state and 'church' in terms of its implementation.
I wouldn't really want it to be otherwise, on reflection.
Sorry, meant to address your question re the pressure to work on holidays.
"Commercialisation puts pressure on workers to be available on public holidays."
I was one of many workers who loved being rostered on a state holiday, because of the day in lieu and the extra hourly. Many of our lower income households are the ones that already work the shifts, and weekends. They already accommodate within their households the varying conflicts of their work with the assumption of normal schedules for schooling, activities etc. Those families co-ordinate their time off with other family members, rather than the community at large.
It is a consequence of falling incomes and rising costs, but we shouldn't ignore those that welcome the financial benefit of increased wages by working on a state holiday.
"But Māori also had cultural containers for right action, including how to look after the group. It's almost impossible imo to compare 1800s practice with contemporary Pākehā practice given we are so encultured into individuality."
Pakeha history also contains examples of group knowledge and support. Māori, historically and now, have individuals that also are proponents of individual enrichment.
I believe it is as vitally important to recognise the diversity of views and life practices within the Māori demographic, as we automatically do within the non-Māori demographic.
It is both a sign of respect – and equality – to do so.
It is a consequence of falling incomes and rising costs, but we shouldn't ignore those that welcome the financial benefit of increased wages by working on a state holiday.
Yes, but this is an argument for adapting to neoliberalism. Understandable and I support the pragmatics, but politically I'm in favour of system change. Better employment law, living wage etc. Public holidays with strong symbolic meaning are a chance to shift culture.
Pakeha history also contains examples of group knowledge and support. Māori, historically and now, have individuals that also are proponents of individual enrichment.
Yes, and British and Māori cultures were quite different in the 1800s, as are Māori and Pākeha today. My point stands, that us now, are engrained in individualism, and this is in contrast to Māori culture which has a much stronger emphasis on the collective good. The problem with commercialisation centres on the collective good.
"Yes, but this is an argument for adapting to neoliberalism. "
Could be viewed that way. Personally, I see it as one of the more inventive and pragmatic ways that people find to deal with the failures of neoliberalism. Until the political landscape improves and material changes are felt at individual levels, people find ways to adapt and thrive.
"Māori culture which has a much stronger emphasis on the collective good. "
Many cultures have this emphasis. Many demographics also contain individuals that practice this without cultural reference, whether it be through religion, environmentalism, socialism etc. It's a perspective to support, but not necessarily adhered to by all Māori individuals or organisations.
there's a balance to be had about adapting and political change. Much of the GI debate is centred in adapting to and making the most of neoliberalism.
It's a perspective to support, but not necessarily adhered to by all Māori individuals or organisations.
Of course. When I talk about cultural norms, it's a given that not every individual or org fits or adheres to that. But I don't think it's incorrect to say that Māoridom is currently better at attending to the collective than Pākeha society, generally.
But I am cognisant of the difference between a concept, and how the concept is lived across modern Maoridom.
Part of that comes from my lived experience with my relatives and marae, some from the same observational scrutiny I use for others. I am fully aware my experience is only one of many, and not necessarily representative, but it is still true, and not one-off.
For me it's a given that in any culture (or set of cultures) there is variation. Is it me making a general statement about Māori culture that is the sticking point here? Is it an untrue statement? Or are you wanting to make more visible the variation within Māoridom?
"But I don't think it's incorrect to say that Māoridom is currently better at attending to the collective than Pākeha society, generally."
Purely from my personal perspective, it's a generalisation that I think it is not necessarily helpful.
If Māori have a really good functioning community, this is where the best aspects of Te Ao Māori can be lived, and seen. But there are Pākeha examples of the same too. We can recognise both, without the need for a comparison of merit.
As in all common groups, there is the possibility of those within in acting outside of those values, but not being held to account because of the roles, or power, or relationships they hold in those groups. Eg. Marae based organisations have the same vulnerability of church based in this regard, and just as my Pākeha friend has borne the brunt of that protection in her church, I have direct Māori relatives with similar experiences in their marae, that were also failed because of the commitment to solidarity rather than individual accountability.
I love those aspects of Te Ao Māori, and I acknowledge their value. But for me credit is given to whomever encompasses those values, in all ways. Whether Māori or Pākeha. Growing up with both Māori and Pākeha relatives, that had similar methods of sharing and community endeavours, I had always thought of it as New Zealand culture, and am reluctant to let that understanding go, so I realise it might be a personal one, rather than one that expresses adequately the conflict between the cultures today.
This deprecation of individualism out of hand omits the enormous benefits it brings. The kind of overreaching tribalism that readily sacrifices personal welfare for the greater good comes at its own terrible cost. It is why most people choose modernity at the first opportunity they get.
Unconstrained individualism on the other hand carries its own alienation and social ills.
I would suggest these two principles are best thought of as mutually interdependent, each necessary to support the other. It is impossible to imagine a good, healthy society full of depraved, dysfunctional people. Equally a tyrannical, oppressive society will fail to inculcate admirable people.
In conversations where I know the understanding and perspective of the other person, it is easier to give my perspective without going into areas I did not intend.
So, it is easier to explain in principle, rather than specifics.
I believe that in most cases – if not all – when implementing a process, or determining a solution, there is going to be impact or cost. This recognition doesn't mean that the solution is not the right one to undertake, just that there are costs to that decision that should be recognised and accommodated in some way.
As you say, both unconstrained individualism and tribalism carry both their own benefits and costs. A system that finds a way to capture the benefits of both would be ideal. Of course, in some situations one approach will predominate, while in others the opposite will be true.
Regardless, there is a cost to either of those approaches.
Effective (rather than punitive) regulation and policies might address the excesses of individualism, while processes that ensure individual accountability despite a recognition that the group embraces us in all our flawed humanity need to be included.
It is the optimal balance between the two that is so very hard to achieve, and requires ongoing review and tinkering. Sometimes, in real life, people who see the benefits of either approach, champion that approach and don’t recognise the costs when they occur – because we are not trained to look for additional problems resulting from our mostly great solutions.
And some people have to work, regardless of whether it's a holiday or not (or our civilization will grind to a halt). Nurses, electricity workers, sewerage station workers, water supply, etc., etc.
Public holidays have never (and can never) include everyone.
Was in the CBD this morning catching up with a friend, and came across a Matariki festival. Maori musicians, stalls selling food, and general Maori themed nicknacks, jewellery, clothes, etc. Observationally (I didn't instigate a whakapapa check), these were all Maori – happily commercializing 'their' festival.
Absolutely don't have a problem with this. And I think that it reflects a range of views on this from within the Maori sphere, just as there are a range of views on Christmas/Easter within the Christian sphere.
I think there's a real miscommunication about commercialisation here. To me it's not selling things per se. It's appropriating something into the neoliberal market with the intention of making profit with no regard for the wider good. I gave examples above about areas we restrict eg alcohol advertising.
People having a local market and selling stuff isn't commercialisation, it's community.
Public holidays have never (and can never) include everyone.
Obviously. The point was that commercialisation has enforced more people having to work on public holidays, unnecessarily. Easy to make a case for nurses being needed every day of the year. Not so a $2 shop, or a baby shop.
"I think there's a real miscommunication about commercialisation here. To me it's not selling things per se. It's appropriating something into the neoliberal market with the intention of making profit with no regard for the wider good. "
OK, I think I understand the distinction here.
If I do, I believe this to be a bigger conversation, rather than application to Matariki as a state holiday.
My point stands, that us now (sic), are engrained in individualism, and this is in contrast to Māori culture which has a much stronger emphasis on the collective good.
Noble Savage Romanticism.
The public adoption of this posture is a form of narcissistic virtue-signalling from affluent Culturalists utterly divorced from cold hard Reality.
you appear to be the one with noble savage notions in your head Swordfish. There's absolutely nothing overt or implied about the nobela savage in the observation that Māori cultures are more collective focused than Pākehā in NZ. Neither is there anything controversial in my statement. Nearly 40 years of neoliberalism ffs.
By all means use lazy anti-woke virtueless signalling in lieu of an actual argument against what I said though.
Reality is the sum or aggregate of all that is real or existent within a system, as opposed to that which is only imaginary. The term is also used to refer to the ontological status of things, indicating their existence. In physical terms, reality is the totality of a system, known and unknown.
Information gives rise to "every it-every particle,every field of force,even the space time continuum itself"
Not only is the observer observing,she is asking questions,and making statements that are expressed in discrete bits,"what we call reality" as Wheeler wrote "arises in the last analysis of yes/no questions'' and added 'All things physical are information -theoretic in origin,and this is a participatory universe'
How unkind, swordfish, and ad hom 🙂
“affluent old virtue-signaling hippie fantasists in the rural idyll of small town Riverton.” is harsh.
Why are you so harsh?
There has been some interesting korero today. I had hard day behind the chainsaw, followed by the weed eater for desert. Nothing like some honest levity to end my day.
Those who hold political and increasingly commercial power in New Zealand are a rag-tag battlefleet of educated post-settlement Maori, gays in all their forms, remaining unionists, urban activists, environmentalists, feminists, sustainability types, fitness and muesli freaks, poverty activists, all the massive companies addicted to the state, the deep left within key ministries, the great HoMoPoMo conspiracy of them …
… and together they have changed the language of political discourse forever.
It's OK. We know you hate them all. But your view will soon die.
Today is just one day where all of them break out into the open, official and permanent. Hoisted to something as real as the stars.
You're beyond clueless … I’ve noticed time & again when you can’t adequately answer a point, you concoct any old smear that happens to be passing through that narcissistic brain of yours.
Obviously you think a cheap bit of character assassination will give you some sort of quick “win”.
Many years ago, I became aware of aspects of the Matariki cluster (I drove a Subaru back then) and it's importance to gardening. The two "figures" around whom on the ground action was centred, Rongomatane and Haumietikitiki ( nga atua of cultivated & wild food) really inspired me, as did the focus on assessing food stocks and planning the next seasons mahi nga kai. I've marked Matariki ever since then, with regards to those aspects. I'm not a good star-gazer – myopia and colour-blindness aren't advantages to peering into outer space, so the earthier effects are where I connect with nga whetu. The national celebration we are enjoying now, hasn't changed my prosaic view of the celestial event; I still only consider Matariki from the growers point of view, but I do celebrate the wider involvement and awareness of all of us living here on these South Pacific islands of ours.
A good friend of mine, who has just complete a degree in weaving, incorporated the Matariki cluster in her final submissions and her graduation korowai. The stories related to her pieces are both connected to her iwi's stories, and her own life.
Such personal recognition and how we honour it at individual levels will be wonderfully diverse and significant, even if that recognition is not universal.
Your personal story is another example, and with your circle of influence – which I know is considerable – may spread that knowledge wider and create another unique but shared celebration of Matariki in your community.
I hope that is the case in many different rohe, but believe that it is sustainable only as an organic and personal process rather than a proscribed one.
Chris Trotter has a go at the issue and sweeps across many of the points, but ends with this:
"Isn’t it possible that Matariki may yet prove a cure for, rather than a cause of, racist contention? Maybe, as the Earth grows warmer, and the pretensions of science and modernity are increasingly laid bare, the hunger of all Aotearoans for gods and heroes will increase. Perhaps, when we realise that these islands are all we’ve got, the thought may grow in our hearts and minds: If all things are, indeed, related and alive, then why not be guided by the stars?"
That's a good quote from Chris Trotter, but I think fails to acknowledge the overlap between the Te Ao Maori view and many other perspectives that are also aligned with recognising the connectiveness of all things, and the value of recognising this in the day-to-day choices we make. I also don't need a god or superhero to follow in order to make informed choices, but I can understand the residual longing for such easy solutions to the problems we have ahead.
When I first became aware of, and was finding out as much as I could about climate change – I can date this by one of my children – so around 23 years ago, I included in my immersion searches for organisations around NZ that were not only identifying the problem, but recognising the scope of it, and inviting solutions.
There were a few, but none organised that did all three. It was easier to find individuals speaking out or writing about the issue.
As the children got older, I looked in particular for Māori organisations, and found one Māori youth group – bookmarked on a now defunct desktop. But even then, the understanding of the impact of climate change was limited.
Over time, references to climate change started to appear in organisations Māori and non-Māori alike, but mostly in reference to getting funding or grants for local conservation or regeneration efforts, rather than a demonstrated understanding of the impact of the whole. Thankfully, this has slowly changed over time.
My point is that Māori, just like non-Māori – despite their common good view – often treated the example of climate change as it affected their group and rohe, not as the wider global problem it is, even though they had the concepts to consider the whole, in practice the scope was limited to the familiar immediate.
I agree with the concept of understanding the value of the living biosphere.
For me, I recognise that in a myriad of ways: in teachings of Te Ao Māori, in the environmental perspectives that I follow, my understandings of science, my personal values and political views, my concern for those who follow us… etc. The more we encounter that perspective in our lives, the better.
"You don’t have to like or agree with Vladimir Putin to take seriously the speech he made to the St. Petersburg Economic Forum last week. Five paragraphs – from an otherwise long and somewhat dull presentation – stand out:"
I don't know if this has been discussed before on TS but apparently Putin was aboard the Mikhail Lermontov when it sank in the sounds in 1986. Shame he made it off the ship.
Mikhail Lermontov Mikhail Yuryevich Lermontov, born October 15 1814, Moscow, Russia died July 27 1841, Pyatigorsk, the leading Russian Romantic poet and author of the novel Geroy nashego vremeni – A Hero of Our Time – 1840.
Albert Camus' novel The Fall begins with an excerpt from Lermontov's foreword to A Hero of Our Time: "Some were dreadfully insulted, and quite seriously, to have held up as a model such an immoral character as A Hero of Our Time; others shrewdly noticed that the author had portrayed himself and his acquaintances. A Hero of Our Time, gentlemen, is in fact a portrait, but not of an individual; it is the aggregate of the vices of our whole generation in their fullest expression."
In Ian Fleming's From Russia with Love the plot revolves upon Soviet agent Tatiana Romanova feigning an infatuation with MI6's James Bond and offering to defect to the West provided he'll be sent to pick her up in Istanbul, Turkey. The Soviets elaborate a complex backstory about how she spotted the file about the English spy during her clerical work at SMERSH headquarters and became smitten with him, making her state that his picture made her think of Lermontov's Pechorin. The fact that Pechorin was anything but a 'hero' or even a positive character at all in Lermontov's narration stands to indicate Fleming's wry self-deprecating wit about his most famous creation; the irony is lost, however, on western readers not familiar with Lermontov's work.
I had heard that Putin was supposed to have been in New Zealand and attended the inquiry into the sinking. I hadn't heard the idea that he had actually been on the ship though. Where did you hear this?
My favorite memory of the event was David Lange's quip about the sinking. "Lange declared that little old New Zealand was "the only nation to sink a Russian Ship since the Second World War."
A usually reliable friend of mine told me last night. Happy to be contradicted if wrong. I must admit I thought I would have heard about this before if it is true.
It was, and probably still is, normal practice of the Soviet submarine service to mask the acoustic signature of their submarines with a surface vessel when transiting shallow waters where the opposition could be listening.
Many of the Pilot's actions, going close to shore and going through the channel that turned out to be a bit tight, could be interpreted as trying to minimise or remove this masking.
It was also odd that our navy arrived to pick up the pieces within minutes, they were doing a hydrographic job nearby.
I suppose that once the details of the affair are disclosed, (aren't they held in Richard Prebble's personal library?) we may get to know a bit more.
There was a cartoon in Southern Cross of a Fred Dang character telling one side to bugger off, turning around and telling the other side to bugger off too. I understood that related to NZ telling USA to bugger off with it's nukes, and someone else.
PS How do you upload an image (jpeg) to TS? I've got the cartoon but not as a url
Maggie Thatcher sent Baroness somebody-or-another to NZ to tell David Lange he wasn't to do the Oxford Union Debate. The encounter was contentious to say the least and when she left his office he called out to her "hey Baroness you've left your broomstick behind".
This is who they are and the Bethlehem school mob are singing from the same sheet.
I've looked….but I can't find where the Bethlehem School are saying that LGBTQ people should be killed. Or that violence should be directed towards them.
Pray, joe90, provide a link to where you found the information that led you to make this claim.
(There's a difference between believing that 'God doesn't make mistakes.' and 'LGBTQ people should be killed.')
It may be correct or it may be incorrect, if you want to deal in/with binaries only. Question is what you’re going to do with it that adds to the convo here?
Defend them all you want, but statements like 'God doesn't make mistakes' does get people killed. Either by gun or pills it makes no difference. If you're beaten down enough by words from those you are supposed to look up to, life can become very bleak.
One oft repeated Christian viewpoint, when people are going through personal struggles, or times of crisis is: 'God doesn't make mistakes' or 'God moves in mysterious ways'. Not particularly helpful, from my point of view, but not deliberately meant to harm, but rather to console.
And so, we really need to know the context of that quote. How the conversation was initiated, and who was involved. If a student has made the statement that God had given them the wrong body, then I am not surprised that it has been challenged with the response that 'God doesn't make mistakes' within a Christian environment.
Why are so many feigning surprise at this viewpoint, as if we know nothing at all about Christian beliefs?
Suicide. If a member of the LBGT Community continues to be told they are a mistake or you're going to hell because you're an abomination, etc etc etc, either by their church leaders or idols (looking at you, Folau), the potential for suicide is elevated. If they show welcoming and inclusion in their Religion then they show the good and right side of Christianity, it seems to me, these people show the opposite.
From the inside of a fundamentalist church for my early life I know exactly what it's like to watch people question their sexuality, let alone their gender assignment.
I've seen the demon outcastings, the shunnings, humiliations, the one-on-one interviews, the training camps to re-educate you. Usually they leave, to start their entire life again, fairly damaged.
And yup, suicide and lifelong depressions among a few.
He claims he confronted his GP about his doubts and said there was no guidance for those who regretted the surgery.
I wonder if the new funding for trans healthcare will cover such situations.
The mental health impact on detrans people is intense. I don't think it's controversial to say that gay and trans people in fundamentalist churches can also have their mental health put at risk. Maybe we could have consideration for all people.
Can you explain how a gender is assigend at birth?
Sex is 'identified' early on in a pregnancy and then confirmed by birth. Sex being the visual secondary sexual characteristics of a human being i.e in an new born it is a boy – penis/scrotum, a girl – vagina.
But last i checked babies are not born without these sexual organs (or like barbie dolls with nothing down there blelow) , and no doctor will order a nurse to go into a Storage room in wich there are shelfes full of spare penises/vaginas that can then be affixed to the new born child on the whims of a doctor/midwife/nurse. If that would be the case i believe that femicide in India or China for that matter would not happen as all the parents would choose the 'boy tackle' to be affixed to the sex less new born.
Sexed bodies are OBSERVED at birth and not 'assigned'
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I have a dear friend that also had harms that were not helped by the involvement in such a church.
It affects all those who fall outside of the church doctrines in any way, not only those with different sexual orientations or gender expressions.
That constancy of having someone tell you the right things to do comes at a a very high cost to all. The church either adapts or fails, as the people within it find they are able to survive without such control.
I'm sorry to hear that your upbringing meant that you witnessed such things as a child, Ad. But it doesn't seem that Bethlehem College is at that extreme from what has been reported so far.
Mental distress, and not being able to get appropriate support for that distress makes people more likely to attempt, and possibly succeed at ending their own lives.
" If they show welcoming and inclusion in their Religion then they show the good and right side of Christianity, it seems to me, these people show the opposite."
Given that I – and it seems many of the commentators who dictate a "good and right side of Christianity" – are atheists, I fail to see what the intent is here.
Tell those whose sense of self falls outside the teachings of the church in about the failures of historic religious doctrines to serve anyone other than the church.
Tell them, that they can find other more understanding churches to accommodate their belief in God. If they don't have a belief in God, then encourage them to dismiss anything they say.
AFAIK, Bethlehem College did not put up a display or make a determined point in regards to this question. From the (very little) that was reported a teacher answered a student with "God doesn't make mistakes" – a familiar and oft used Christian phrase.
Give ALL students the resilience and tools to deal with disagreements without resorting to self-harm as a response.
Now, let's address the common use of suicide ideation in transgender advocacy. Despite this being against every suicide prevention guideline, advocates bring up the issue of suicide as impetus for non-therapeutic social and medical interventions.
This is using the threat of suicide as a means of coercive control and manipulation.
Surely, the answer to mental distress at this level is extensive and comprehensive therapy (and only therapy).
Further point: The student was told that there was NO mistake in their existence. Not the opposite. They wanted to be told there had been a mistake.
How about "no child is born in the wrong body"? The vast majority of young people with bodily dysphoria related to their sexed body will resolve that with the right support by the time they finish puberty. Most will grow up to be perfectly "ordinary" same sex attracted people.
Thanks for your diversion, but that's not a road I'm able to go down, other than 'if NO child is born in the wrong body' how come only MOST will grow out of it, that leaves a lesser number who will not grow out of it, they are still people and will still suffer. I'm off out to join a diverse group of people to celebrate Matariki so, Cheerio.
The people who don't desist from their gender dysphoria I think will likely have a tough life and I do feel for them. I hope they get the right support.
I posted further down about a man who had gender reassignment surgery and woke up full of regret and realized he had been castrated. He is now suing the NHS and I wish him luck.
"… how come only MOST will grow out of it, that leaves a lesser number who will not grow out of it, they are still people and will still suffer. "
If we had the answer to this, then any concerns about the long-term effects of inappropriate treatment would melt away like morning dew.
It is precisely the inability of being able to determine who will persist and who won't that makes the issue of both social and medical interventions for minors such a contentious issue.
If the majority do grow out of it – and there are other issues here regarding the very large increase in adolescent girls – then caution regarding treatment is well advised for this cohort. Not providing medical interventions until they are grown seems a precaution that seems advisable, given the permanent and long-term outcomes from intervention.
For those that do persist – is there a way to alleviate the distress until such time they are fully cognitive adults?
This is the conversation we need to be having about treatment for minors.
It is one that requires a lot of research, input, perspectives and considerations. But the consequences of failing to even contemplate this discussion by the adults, will – as ever, be borne by the children and young people we are entrusted to protect.
How about canning the whataboutery just to shoehorn in your favourite bogeyman just this once? That would be nice. We know where you stand on that particular issue, ad nauseam.
I think there are parallels between 'god doesn't make mistakes' and 'born in the wrong body' that are worth exploring. If you don't like the conversation, maybe just scroll on by. Telling other people to shut up because you don't like their politics isn't going to run on a political blog.
Uncle sam the old rooster wants to gather in as many of his loyal hens as he can reminding them that they need him to keep them safe but he knows the cold wind of change is beginning to stir and he sees the young challengers on the periphery strutting their stuff……….
During the last six months, similar Russian cyber influence operations sought to help inflame public opposition to COVID-19 policies in New Zealand and Canada…..
I had noticed that a number of the covid-19 deniers and anti-vaxxer commenters also supported the Russian Federation invasion and war against Ukraine.
I had thought it was just the same old anti-government useful idiots pushing wacky right wing pseudo-science conspiracy theories.
Anyone able to fill out Josie Pagani’s CV? I’ve seen an awful lot based on her candidacy for a Labour seat a decade ago. Then I hear rumors about her being an oil lobbyist or having connections to one which you never see listed at the bottom of her columns. Does she have P.R. or lobbying clients?
Just sticking my nose in really, but you know it would be interesting to know when reading her writing.
The newly merged media company will be named "Aoeteroa New Zealand Public Media " lmfao oooh boy that's a name that'll catch on.
ANZPM. Could they fit any more letters on it?? That's the best this govt and it's army of pr reps and gargantuan legions of consultants can come up with ?!? Really?!? Lmao. Ridiculous. Call it NZBC like ABC CBC , BBC.
When the majority of the public see ANZ they think ANZ Bank or Australia/New Zealand and NZPM is shorthand for the Prime minister.
If ANZPM is the name of this new organization, thanks but no thanks rnz and tvnz can keep.
Ridiculous.
If they name it anzpm I'd almost be inclined to vote act in the hopes that shit gets privatized.
I'm a millennial, My generation has no interest in watching NZ content, why should we have to pay to fund it ?
On Wednesday, these anti-vaccine groups kicked off a summer of planned protest with an event inside Canada’s Parliament buildings in Ottawa, supported by sitting Members of Parliament. Outside those buildings is where the so-called “freedom convoy” took over Canada’s capital for several weeks this past winter, setting off similar movements across the globe.
[…]
The Integrated Terrorism Assessment Centre, an arm of the Canadian intelligence community that provides intel to local law enforcement agencies, warned in a special bulletin that they’re seeing mounting “aspirations to overthrow the federal government or to engage in mass violent resistance.” The bulletin was provided to VICE World News by a law enforcement source.
According to the intelligence assessment, the chance of an organized attack, a storming of Parliament, or another occupation of the city is “unlikely,” and Canadian intelligence and law enforcement believe the protests will most likely be peaceful and lawful.
Yet, they warn, they’re increasingly witnessing “a culture in which individuals, including supporters of ideologically motivated violent extremism (IMVE), feel that they can threaten, incite, and celebrate violence online without consequence.”
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Hi,A friend had their 40th over the weekend and decided to theme it after Curb Your Enthusiasm fashion icon Susie Greene. Captured in my tiny kitchen before I left the house, I ending up evoking a mix of old lesbian and Hillary Clinton — both unintentional.Me vs Hillary ClintonIf you’re ...
This is a re-post from Andrew Dessler at the Climate Brink blogIn 2023, the Earth reached temperature levels unprecedented in modern times. Given that, it’s reasonable to ask: What’s going on? There’s been lots of discussions by scientists about whether this is just the normal progression of global warming or if something ...
The schools are on holiday and the sun is shining in the seaside village and all day long I have been seeing bunches of bikes; Mums, Dads, teens and toddlers chattering, laughing, happy, having a bloody great time together. Cheers, AT, for the bits of lane you’ve added lately around the ...
Today in our National-led authoritarian nightmare: Shane Jones thinks Ministers should be above the law: New Zealand First MP Shane Jones is accusing the Waitangi Tribunal of over-stepping its mandate by subpoenaing a minister for its urgent hearing on the Oranga Tamariki claim. The tribunal is looking into the ...
Bryce Edwards writes – Politicians across the political spectrum are implicated in the New Zealand media’s failing health. Either through neglect or incompetent interventions, successive governments have failed to regulate, foster, and allow a healthy Fourth Estate that can adequately hold politicians and the powerful to account. ...
Citizen Science writes – Last week saw two significant developments in the debate over the treatment of trans-identifying children and young people – the release in Britain of the final report of Dr Hilary Cass’s review into gender healthcare, and here in New Zealand, the news that the ...
One night while sleeping in my bed I had a beautiful dreamThat all the people of the world got together on the same wavelengthAnd began helping one anotherNow in this dream, universal love was the theme of the dayPeace and understanding and it happened this wayAfter such an eventful day ...
This is a guest post by Oscar Simms who is a housing activist, volunteer for the Coalition for More Homes, and was the Labour Party candidate for Auckland Central at the last election. ...
Turning what Labour called the “holiday highway” into a four-lane expressway from Auckland to Whangarei could bring at least an economic benefit of nearly two billion a year for Northland each year. And it could help bring an end to poverty in one of New Zealand’s most deprived regions. The ...
Tonight’s six-stack includes: launching his substack with a bunch of his previous documentaries, including this 1992 interview with Dame Whina Cooper. and here crew give climate activists plenty to do, including this call to submit against the Fast Track Approvals bill. writes brilliantly here on his substack ...
On February 14, 2023 we announced our Rebuttal Update Project. This included an ask for feedback about the added "At a glance" section in the updated basic rebuttal versions. This weekly blog post series highlights this new section of one of the updated basic rebuttal versions and serves as a ...
You're in the mall when you hear it: some kind of popping sound in the distance, kids with fireworks, maybe. But then a moment of eerie stillness is followed by more of the fireworks sound and there’s also screaming and shrieking and now here come people running for their lives.Does ...
Karl du Fresne writes – There’s a crisis in the news media and the media are blaming it on everyone except themselves. Culpability is being deflected elsewhere – mainly to the hapless Minister of Communications, Melissa Lee, and the big social media platforms that are accused of hoovering ...
I don’t normally send out two newsletters in a day but I figured I’d say something about… the news. If two newsletters is a bit much then maybe just skip one, I don’t want to overload people. Alternatively if you’d be interested in sometimes receiving multiple, smaller updates from me, ...
Buzz from the Beehive David Seymour and Winston Peters today signalled that at least two ministers of the Crown might be in Wellington today. Seymour (as Associate Minister of Education) announced the removal of more red tape, this time to make it easier for new early learning services to be ...
Politicians across the political spectrum are implicated in the New Zealand media’s failing health. Either through neglect or incompetent interventions, successive governments have failed to regulate, foster, and allow a healthy Fourth Estate that can adequately hold politicians and the powerful to account. Our political system is suffering from the ...
David Farrar writes – The Broadcasting Standards Authority ruled: Comments by radio host Kate Hawkesby suggesting Māori and Pacific patients were being prioritised for surgery due to their ethnicity were misleading and discriminatory, the Broadcasting Standards Authority has found. It is a fact such patients are prioritised. ...
PRC and its proxies in Solomons have been preparing for these elections for a long time.A lot of money, effort and intelligence have gone into ensuring an outcome that won’t compromise Beijing’s plans. Cleo Paskall writes – On April 17th the Solomon Islands, a country of ...
Is speeding up the trip to and from Wellington airport by 12 minutes worth spending up more than $10 billion? Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: The six news items that stood out to me in the last day to 8:26 am today are:The Lead: Transport Minister Simeon Brownannounced ...
The Green Party has joined the call for public submissions on the fast-track legislation to be extended after the Ombudsman forced the Government to release the list of organisations invited to apply just hours before submissions close. ...
New Zealand’s good work at reducing climate emissions for three years in a row will be undone by the National government’s lack of ambition and scrapping programmes that were making a difference, Labour Party climate spokesperson Megan Woods said today. ...
More essential jobs could be on the chopping block, this time Ministry of Education staff on the school lunches team are set to find out whether they're in line to lose their jobs. ...
The Government is trying to bring in a law that will allow Ministers to cut corners and kill off native species, Labour environment spokesperson Rachel Brooking said. ...
Cancelling urgently needed new Cook Strait ferries and hiking the cost of public transport for many Kiwis so that National can announce the prospect of another tunnel for Wellington is not making good choices, Labour Transport Spokesperson Tangi Utikere said. ...
A laundry list of additional costs for Tāmaki Makarau Auckland shows the Minister for the city is not delivering for the people who live there, says Labour Auckland Issues spokesperson Shanan Halbert. ...
The Green Party has today launched a step-by-step guide to help New Zealanders make their voice heard on the Government’s democracy dodging and anti-environment fast track legislation. ...
The National Government’s proposed changes to the Residential Tenancies Act will mean tenants can be turfed from their homes by landlords with little notice, Labour housing spokesperson Kieran McAnulty said. ...
Green Party co-leader Marama Davidson is calling on all parties to support a common-sense change that’s great for the planet and great for consumers after her member’s bill was drawn from the ballot today. ...
A significant milestone has been reached in the fight to strike an anti-Pasifika and unfair law from the country’s books after Teanau Tuiono’s members’ bill passed its first reading. ...
New Zealand has today missed the opportunity to uphold the right to a clean, healthy, and sustainable environment, says James Shaw after his member’s bill was voted down in its first reading. ...
Today’s advice from the Climate Change Commission paints a sobering reality of the challenge we face in combating climate change, especially in light of recent Government policy announcements. ...
Minister for Disability Issues Penny Simmonds appears to have delayed a report back to Cabinet on the progress New Zealand is making against international obligations for disabled New Zealanders. ...
The Government’s newly announced review of methane emissions reduction targets hints at its desire to delay Aotearoa New Zealand’s urgent transition to a climate safe future, the Green Party said. ...
The Government must commit to the Maitai School building project for students with high and complex needs, to ensure disabled students from the top of the South Island have somewhere to learn. ...
Mental Health Minister Matt Doocey and his Government colleagues have made a meal of their mental health commitments, showing how flimsy their efforts to champion the issue truly are, says Labour Mental Health spokesperson Ingrid Leary. ...
Māori are yet to see anything from this Government except cuts, reversals and taking our people backwards, Māori Development spokesperson Willie Jackson said. ...
The Coalition Government’s refusal to commit to ongoing funding for social housing is seeing the sector pull back on developments and families watch their dreams of securing a home fade away, says Labour Housing spokesperson Kieran McAnulty. ...
Changes to minimum wage and benefit indexation means many New Zealanders will get less this year, as the Government gives a big tax break to landlords instead. ...
New Zealand is demonstrating its commitment to reducing global greenhouse emissions, and supporting clean energy transition in South East Asia, through a contribution of NZ$41 million (US$25 million) in climate finance to the Asian Development Bank (ADB)-led Energy Transition Mechanism (ETM). Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and Climate Change Minister Simon Watts announced ...
The Government is today releasing a list of organisations who received letters about the Fast-track applications process, says RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop. “Recently Ministers and agencies have received a series of OIA requests for a list of organisations to whom I wrote with information on applying to have a ...
Attorney-General Judith Collins today announced the appointment of Wellington Barrister David Jonathan Boldt as a Judge of the High Court, and the Honourable Justice Matthew Palmer as a Judge of the Court of Appeal. Justice Boldt graduated with an LLB from Victoria University of Wellington in 1990, and also holds ...
Education Minister Erica Stanford will lead the New Zealand delegation at the 2024 International Summit on the Teaching Profession (ISTP) held in Singapore. The delegation includes representatives from the Post Primary Teachers’ Association (PPTA) Te Wehengarua and the New Zealand Educational Institute (NZEI) Te Riu Roa. The summit is co-hosted ...
A stopbank upgrade project in Tairawhiti partly funded by the Government has increased flood resilience for around 7000ha of residential and horticultural land so far, Regional Development Minister Shane Jones says. Mr Jones today attended a dawn service in Gisborne to mark the end of the first stage of the ...
Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters will represent the Government at Anzac Day commemorations on the Gallipoli Peninsula next week and engage with senior representatives of the Turkish government in Istanbul. “The Gallipoli campaign is a defining event in our history. It will be a privilege to share the occasion ...
Science, Innovation and Technology and Defence Minister Judith Collins will next week attend the OECD Science and Technology Ministerial conference in Paris and Anzac Day commemorations in Belgium. “Science, innovation and technology have a major role to play in rebuilding our economy and achieving better health, environmental and social outcomes ...
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon held a bilateral meeting today with the President of the Philippines, Ferdinand Marcos Jr. The Prime Minister was accompanied by MP Paulo Garcia, the first Filipino to be elected to a legislature outside the Philippines. During today’s meeting, Prime Minister Luxon and President Marcos Jr discussed opportunities to ...
The Government has announced that $20 million in funding will be made available to Westport to fund much needed flood protection around the town. This measure will significantly improve the resilience of the community, says Local Government Minister Simeon Brown. “The Westport community has already been allocated almost $3 million ...
The Government is proud to support the first ever Repco Supercars Championship event in Taupō as up to 70,000 motorsport fans attend the Taupō International Motorsport Park this weekend, says Economic Development Minister Melissa Lee. “Anticipation for the ITM Taupō Super400 is huge, with tickets and accommodation selling out weeks ...
Local Government Minister Simeon Brown has announced an increase to the Rates Rebate Scheme, putting money back into the pockets of low-income homeowners. “The coalition Government is committed to bringing down the cost of living for New Zealanders. That includes targeted support for those Kiwis who are doing things tough, such ...
The Coalition Government is investing in a project to boost survival rates of New Zealand mussels and grow the industry, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones has announced. “This project seeks to increase the resilience of our mussels and significantly boost the sector’s productivity,” Mr Jones says. “The project - ...
Benefit figures released today underscore the importance of the Government’s plan to rebuild the economy and have 50,000 fewer people on Jobseeker Support, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says. “Benefit numbers are still significantly higher than when National was last in government, when there was about 70,000 fewer ...
The Government’s commitment to doubling New Zealand’s renewable energy capacity is backed by new data showing that clean energy has helped the country reach its lowest annual gross emissions since 1999, Climate Change Minister Simon Watts says. New Zealand’s latest Greenhouse Gas Inventory (1990-2022) published today, shows gross emissions fell ...
The Government is bringing the earthquake-prone building review forward, with work to start immediately, and extending the deadline for remediations by four years, Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk says. “Our Government is focused on rebuilding the economy. A key part of our plan is to cut red tape that ...
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and his Thai counterpart, Prime Minister Srettha Thavisin, have today agreed that New Zealand and the Kingdom of Thailand will upgrade the bilateral relationship to a Strategic Partnership by 2026. “New Zealand and Thailand have a lot to offer each other. We have a strong mutual desire to build ...
RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop and Transport Minister Simeon Brown have today announced the Coalition Government’s intention to extend port coastal permits for a further 20 years, providing port operators with certainty to continue their operations. “The introduction of the Resource Management Act in 1991 required ports to obtain coastal ...
Today’s announcement that inflation is down to 4 per cent is encouraging news for Kiwis, but there is more work to be done - underlining the importance of the Government’s plan to get the economy back on track, acting Finance Minister Chris Bishop says. “Inflation is now at 4 per ...
Refreshed health guidance released today will help parents and schools make informed decisions about whether their child needs to be in school, addressing one of the key issues affecting school attendance, says Associate Education Minister David Seymour. In recent years, consistently across all school terms, short-term illness or medical reasons ...
Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones is streamlining high-level oceans management while maintaining a focus on supporting the sector’s role in the export-led recovery of the economy. “I am working to realise the untapped potential of our fishing and aquaculture sector. To achieve that we need to be smarter with ...
Associate Agriculture Minister Mark Patterson is speaking at the International Wool Textile Organisation Congress in Adelaide, promoting New Zealand wool, and outlining the coalition Government’s support for the revitalisation the sector. "New Zealand’s wool exports reached $400 million in the year to 30 June 2023, and the coalition Government ...
The Government is making legislative changes to make it easier for new early learning services to be established, and for existing services to operate, Associate Education Minister David Seymour says. The changes involve repealing the network approval provisions that apply when someone wants to establish a new early learning service, ...
Changes to the Resource Management Act will align consenting for coal mining to other forms of mining to reduce barriers that are holding back economic development, Resources Minister Shane Jones says. “The inconsistent treatment of coal mining compared with other extractive activities is burdensome red tape that fails to acknowledge ...
Trade, Agriculture and Forestry Minister Todd McClay has concluded productive discussions with ministerial counterparts in Beijing today, in support of the New Zealand-China trade and economic relationship. “My meeting with Commerce Minister Wang Wentao reaffirmed the complementary nature of the bilateral trade relationship, with our Free Trade Agreement at its ...
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon today paid tribute to Singapore’s outgoing Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong. Meeting in Singapore today immediately before Prime Minister Lee announced he was stepping down, Prime Minister Luxon warmly acknowledged his counterpart’s almost twenty years as leader, and the enduring legacy he has left for Singapore and South East ...
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon held a bilateral meeting today with Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong. While in Singapore as part of his visit to South East Asia this week, Prime Minister Luxon also met with Singapore President Tharman Shanmugaratnam and will meet with Deputy Prime Minister Lawrence Wong. During today’s meeting, Prime Minister Luxon ...
Foreign Minister Winston Peters has made further appointments to the Board of Antarctica New Zealand as part of a continued effort to ensure the Scott Base Redevelopment project is delivered in a cost-effective and efficient manner. The Minister has appointed Neville Harris as a new member of the Board. Mr ...
Finance Minister Nicola Willis will travel to the United States on Tuesday to attend a meeting of the Five Finance Ministers group, with counterparts from Australia, the United States, Canada, and the United Kingdom. “I am looking forward to meeting with our Five Finance partners on how we can work ...
The coalition Government has today announced purrfect and pawsitive changes to the Residential Tenancies Act to give tenants with pets greater choice when looking for a rental property, says Housing Minister Chris Bishop. “Pets are important members of many Kiwi families. It’s estimated that around 64 per cent of New ...
State Highway 1 (SH1) through Wellington City is heavily congested at peak times and while planning continues on the duplicate Mt Victoria Tunnel and Basin Reserve project, the Government has also asked NZ Transport Agency (NZTA) to consider and provide advice on a Long Tunnel option, Transport Minister Simeon Brown ...
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and Foreign Minister Winston Peters have condemned Iran’s shocking and illegal strikes against Israel. “These attacks are a major challenge to peace and stability in a region already under enormous pressure," Mr Luxon says. "We are deeply concerned that miscalculation on any side could ...
Hundreds of people in little over a week have turned out in Northland to hear Regional Development Minister Shane Jones speak about plans for boosting the regional economy through infrastructure. About 200 people from the infrastructure and associated sectors attended an event headlined by Mr Jones in Whangarei today. Last ...
Health Minister Dr Shane Reti has today thanked outgoing Health New Zealand – Te Whatu Ora Chair Dame Karen Poutasi for her service on the Board. “Dame Karen tendered her resignation as Chair and as a member of the Board today,” says Dr Reti. “I have asked her to ...
The NZ Transport Agency (NZTA) has signalled their proposed delivery approach for the Government’s 15 Roads of National Significance (RoNS), with the release of the State Highway Investment Proposal (SHIP) today, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says. “Boosting economic growth and productivity is a key part of the Government’s plan to ...
New Zealand is renewing its connections with a world facing urgent challenges by pursuing an active, energetic foreign policy, Foreign Minister Winston Peters says. “Our country faces the most unstable global environment in decades,” Mr Peters says at the conclusion of two weeks of engagements in Egypt, Europe and the United States. “We cannot afford to sit back in splendid ...
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon has announced the Australian Governor-General, His Excellency General The Honourable David Hurley and his wife Her Excellency Mrs Linda Hurley, will make a State visit to New Zealand from Tuesday 16 April to Thursday 18 April. The visit reciprocates the State visit of former Governor-General Dame Patsy Reddy ...
Associate Health Minister David Seymour has announced that Medsafe has approved 11 cold and flu medicines containing pseudoephedrine. Pharmaceutical suppliers have indicated they may be able to supply the first products in June. “This is much earlier than the original expectation of medicines being available by 2025. The Government recognised ...
New Zealand and the United States have recommitted to their strategic partnership in Washington DC today, pledging to work ever more closely together in support of shared values and interests, Foreign Minister Winston Peters says. “The strategic environment that New Zealand and the United States face is considerably more ...
April 11, 2024 Joint Declaration by United States Secretary of State the Honorable Antony J. Blinken and New Zealand Minister of Foreign Affairs the Right Honourable Winston Peters We met today in Washington, D.C. to recommit to the historic partnership between our two countries and the principles that underpin it—rule ...
Foreign Minister Winston Peters has announced further New Zealand cooperation with the United States in the Pacific Islands region through $16.4 million in funding for initiatives in digital connectivity and oceans and fisheries research. “New Zealand can achieve more in the Pacific if we work together more urgently and ...
Māori representation brings a perspective that encompasses not only the interests of Māori communities but also a broader, holistic approach to environmental stewardship and community well-being, principles deeply embedded in Te Ao Māori (the Māori ...
This week in Auckland, a group of young people took over the microphone at a ministerial press conference, to explain why they oppose the Fast-Track Approvals Bill. One young woman said, ‘We’re here because we love Aotearoa New Zealand. We want to raise our children in an environment that’s thriving, ...
The summer was wonderful. Evie was wonderful, too; finally a teenager, finally worthy of long, hot days. She shaved her legs for the first time and bought cut-off shorts from the op-shop that made them look long. She got a Warehouse singlet so tight on her new shape that her ...
When Thomas James was on his solo camp as part of Outward Bound, the keen outdoorsman didn’t find it too challenging, as others often do. In what might just be the perfect illustration of his character, he saw it as a great opportunity to solve a few problems. “I thought, ...
From the unstable and drippy to the hi-tech and pretty, here’s our ranking of all the tunnels you can drive through in this country. The first tunnel seems to have been built in 2200BC in Babylonia, kicking off a global phenomenon for digging holes in order to get places more ...
Lucinda Bennett on the art of being greedy but resourceful. This is an excerpt from our weekly food newsletter, The Boil Up. When I picture the market, it is always this time of year. Crisp air, dripping nose, counting coins with cold fingers. Sunlight pale, filtered through specks of dew still ...
Zoë Colling’s favourite piece in the ‘That’s So Last Century’ collection is a lubrication chart for a sewing machine from the ’60s. It’s about the size of a postcard, and carefully maintained. “I like it that this piece of ephemera highlights that manual and technical side of the skill involved ...
Kia Ora Gaza A passionate haka reverberated through Auckland International Airport as a medical team of three New Zealand doctors received an emotional farewell from a big crowd of supporters before flying to Turkey to join the international Freedom Flotilla to Gaza. The doctors, who left Auckland yesterday, hope to ...
With submissions closing today, Macassey-Pickard says groups around the country have been supporting a huge range of people to make their submissions. ...
Our response to the new legislation is informed by targeted conversations with practitioners working in the system and through an implementation lens. ...
The new ‘Fast-track Approvals Bill’ would give just three Ministers the power to approve or deny development projects. They would avoid the usual checks and balances that are in place to protect rivers, land, the ocean, and communities. ...
COMMENTARY:By Eugene Doyle Helen Clark, how I miss you. The former New Zealand Prime Minister — the safest pair of hands this country has had in living memory — gave a masterclass on the importance of maintaining an independent foreign policy when she spoke at an AUKUS symposium held ...
The government's released the list of organisations provided with information on how to apply - just hours before public submissions on the bill close. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Milton Speer, Visiting Fellow, School of Mathematical and Physical Sciences, University of Technology Sydney Before climate change really got going, eastern Australia’s flash floods tended to concentrate on our coastal regions, east of the Great Dividing Range. But that’s changing. Now ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Elizabeth Finkel, Vice-Chancellor’s Fellow, La Trobe University Sia Duff / South Australian Museum In February, the South Australian Museum “re-imagined” itself. In the face of rising costs and inadequate government funds, CEO David Gaimster, who took the reins last June, declared ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Alan Pearce, Professor, School of Allied Heath, Human Services & Sport, La Trobe University, La Trobe University This week, Collingwood AFL player Nathan Murphy announced his retirement, brought on by his concussion history and ongoing issues. The 24-year-old’s seemingly sudden retirement, ...
The Mental Health Foundation provides support and resources for those facing the loss of their job, so it’s wrong in the very week the Government adds another 1000 jobs to its tally of cuts, that this is happening. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Alexander Howard, Senior Lecturer, Discipline of English and Writing, University of Sydney Daniel Boud/Sydney Theatre Company Decay, terror, revulsion. These are three of the central themes of Thomas Bernhard’s rarely performed play The President. The Austrian is one of the greatest ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Ye In (Jane) Hwang, Postdoctoral Research Associate at School of Population Health, UNSW Sydney Shutterstock You’d be hard pressed to find any aspect of daily life that doesn’t require some form of digital literacy. We need only to look back ten ...
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon says threats by ministers Shane Jones and David Seymour to reform or close down the Waitangi Tribunal were “ill-considered”, as legal experts say the ministers may have breached Cabinet Manual conventions. “I think those comments are ill-considered and we expect all ministers to actually exercise good ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Rob Newton, Professor of Exercise Medicine, Edith Cowan University Pexels/RDNE stock project You’re not in your 20s or 30s anymore and you know regular health checks are important. So you go to your GP. During the appointment they measure your waist. ...
A new poem by Evangeline Riddiford Graham. Mitochondrial Problem I. It was long drive to Kansas for the man and his dog but you have to understand he said She doesn’t fly. Which calls to mind not carsick shitting barking or whining but a dog who chooses not to as ...
The only published and available best-selling indie book chart in New Zealand is the top 10 sales list recorded every week at Unity Books’ stores in High St, Auckland, and Willis St, Wellington.AUCKLAND1 Hemingway’s Goblet by Dermot Ross (Mary Egan Publishing, $38)Hot off the press, this debut ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Laura Wajnryb McDonald, PhD candidate in Criminology, University of Sydney Less than 24 hours after Ashlee Good was murdered in Bondi Junction, her family released a statement requesting the media take down photographs they had reproduced of Ashlee and her family without ...
Chief executive Shaun Robinson said it has not had any government funding cut, but government-funded contracts have not kept pace with rising costs. ...
The Ministry of Health has delayed the release of its evidence brief on the safety, reversibility and mental health and wellbeing outcomes for puberty blockers. While we wait, Julia de Bres speaks to those with firsthand experience. Best practice gender-affirming healthcare is based on trans people’s self-determination and agency. The ...
Barcelona’s city streets have gone from traffic-clogged to pedestrian-friendly. How? Superblocks. Ellen Rykers explains. This is an excerpt from our weekly environmental newsletter Future Proof. Sign up here. Last week I read a great interview with renowned urbanist Janette Sadik-Khan by The Spinoff’s Wellington editor Joel MacManus: “You can reimagine streets, ...
Student groups ‘Climate Action VUW’, Schools Strike 4 Climate and VUWSA will be on the street in Wellington today, the last day for submissions on the Fast-track Approvals Bill, with a message that the fight against the Government’s ‘War on ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Sofia Ammassari, Research Fellow, Griffith University Since 2014, Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s popularity has grown exponentially – and so has the formidable organisational machine of his Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP). These two factors will be key to delivering the BJP a ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Brendon Hyndman, Associate Professor of Education (Adjunct) & Senior Manager (BCE), Charles Sturt University During COVID almost all Australian students and their families experienced online learning. But while schools have long since gone back to in-person teaching, online learning has not gone ...
Yes, they’re better for the environment. No, that’s not a good enough reason for me to use them. Once every 26 days or so, my period arrives, and if struck by an act of God, I am caught red-crotched without products. How, after 17 years of this, do I still ...
“It will cause significant harm to our environment and communities. It is completely at odds with New Zealanders’ relationship with nature and our need for a low-carbon, sustainable economic future." ...
The Chair of the National Maori Authority, Matthew Tukaki, has warned a Parliamentary Select Committee that fast-tracking legislation is a perilous practice that undermines the core tenets of democracy, transparency, and accountability. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Tim Tenbensel, Associate Professor, Health Policy, University of Auckland, Waipapa Taumata Rau Getty Images Since coming into power, the coalition government has adopted a simple but shrewd see-how-fast-we-can-move political strategy. However, in the health sector this need for speed entails ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Anastasia Hronis, Clinical Psychologist, University of Technology Sydney Darya Sannikova/Pexels Whether you’re watching TV, attending a footy game, or eating a meal at your local pub, gambling is hard to escape. Although the rise of gambling is not unique to Australia, ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Mark Wong, Forrest Fellow, School of Biological Sciences, The University of Western Australia Have you ever wondered if there are more insects out at night than during the day? We set out to answer this question by combing through the scientific ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Carol T Kulik, Research Professor, University of South Australia IR Stone/Shutterstock In Australia, it’s not the done thing to know – let alone ask – what our colleagues are paid. Yet, it’s easy to see how pay transparency can make pay ...
The Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment (MBIE) is sounding a warning to migrants, that running foul of the law may see them leaving the country prematurely. ...
The government’s plan to get 50,000 people off jobseeker support by 2030 has had a rocky start, writes Catherine McGregor in this excerpt from The Bulletin, The Spinoff’s morning news round-up. To receive The Bulletin in full each weekday, sign up here. Beneficiary numbers are up – and so are ...
Raglan Roast is a staple of Wellington coffee culture. But with five branches across the capital, which one is the best? I am a die-hard Raglan Roast fan. It’s consistently the most affordable cafe in Wellington, and one of the only places you can get a coffee after 3pm. So, ...
Residents of University of Auckland halls are being urged to withhold their accommodation fees from May 1, in a bid to force the university to take student concerns over rent hikes seriously.The University of Auckland is facing a strike from students over the cost of on-campus accommodation. The Students ...
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Hineaupounamu ‘Missy’ Nuku has been scaling mountains in Canada for her college basketball team, the Lakeland Rustlers. Alberta is currently home for the 20-year-old point guard, who is in her first year of a scholarship at Lakeland College, where she is studying for a business degree. She has certainly made ...
New Zealand and the Philippines have signed a new maritime security agreement and stated their concerns over activity in the South China Sea, as Chinese vessels continue to flout international law. Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and Philippines President Ferdinand “Bongbong” Marcos committed to signing a Mutual Logistics Supporting Arrangement by ...
The thousands of government “back-office” job cuts are causing widespread pain in the capital city. In today’s episode of The Detail, we speak to three journalists and a think tank researcher, looking at the larger picture around the cuts and what effect it will have on Wellington, a city that’s ...
Opinion: The famed American architect and urban designer Daniel Burnham once said, “Make no little plans. They have no magic to stir men’s blood!” Burnham wouldn’t have been referring to the transport plans in Aotearoa New Zealand over the past five years; projects so big they hadn’t the credibility to ...
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How to help people facing poverty?
This is a good read about scientific studies.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-01679-y
Thanks for this Barry.
The scientific evidence is clear, reducing inequality with cash injections to the most disadvantaged gives them the resources they need to escape poverty benefiting and enriching the whole of society.
Where does the cash come?
It comes from government which gains its income from taxes on the more well off.
The political representatives of the more well off, like National and ACT are against taxing the well off for any sort of social programs even if those programs would benefit the whole of society. And so will campaign to oppose them.
Fundamental to this campaign is the promotion of the idea, that the poor are indigent, irresponsible, stupid and lazy, and responsible for their own distress and powerlessness.
Relentlessly the representatives of the rich will push the idea, that taxing the well off to fund social programs will only see the less well off spend more on drugs and booze and gambling and other social evils.
Again and again studies like this prove the opposite. That given the resources the poor will use them raise themselves and their families out of poverty.
There is more than one way that society's wealth can be distributed more equitably, While the benefits of governments doing this directly is backed by studies like this.
Governments are not the only agencies that have the power to redistribue the wealth of society more equitably. More traditionally, trade unions have played this role.
I am reminded here of the rise of South Korea to become the economic power house that it is today. This transformation began with the rise of powerful trade unions that led successful struggles to wrest more of that society's wealth for the working people. The increase in well being of the working population led to increases in productivity, the continuing rise in incomes and resources at the bottom of South Korean society led to higher achievement levels for South Korean children in schools leading to more children of working families to be more able to move up to receive the advantages of higher education. The struggle of the trade union movement in South Korea was also linked to the struggle for more democracy and openness in South Koran society.
These hard won advances were fought every step of the way. As will the proven benfits of government led redistribution will be too.
Everything is connected
On Saturday Mickysavage, posted in praise of UK union leader Mick Lynch.
Attached to the bottom of his post, Mickysavage added the Green Day rendition of John Lennon's song 'Working Class Hero'.
The Green Day backing video features refugees from tyrannies where campaigns for social justice and against extreme inequality are suppressed with massive violence and oppression. Local ruling elites of these countries, quick to suppress any sort of trade union or democratic activity, are often supported and backed, (and also armed with military aid), by Western powers that benefit from the neo-colonial oppression, exploitation and looting of these countries in an international web of binding business contracts, trade deals and political and military partnership links.
What reminded me of your comment, Barry, and the link you provided to proven studies of how to relieve poverty, was the first line sung by Green Day,
"As soon as you're born, they make you feel small
By giving you nothing instead of it all"
Despite the proven success of the trials in relieving poverty by providing resources and funds to poor people, these trials will never be rolled out as government programs. The international links between the local ruling elites and the ruling elites in the West who in partnership also benefit from the inequality, poverty and low incomes in these countries, (possibly even more than the local elites), will simply not allow it.
It will take a hard fought campaign against these vested interests, the same for the struggle of the RMTU workers, led my Mick Lynch.
Everything is connected.
World War III edges closer.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/royal-navy-could-escortgrain-ships-through-odesa-blockade-6cdp626xq#:~:text=Britain%20is%20in%20discussion%20with,protect%20freighters%20carrying%20Ukrainian%20grain.
Both war and climate change have the same drivers.
It follows, that if we can't stop the war, We can't stop climate change.
Stop the war Russian troops out!
https://www.stopwar.org.uk/events/stop-fuelling-the-war-in-ukraine-russian-troops-out-no-to-nato-trident/
While the US hegemon might regard the Pacific region as a US Lake.
(on a smaller scale), Russia regards the Black Sea as a Russian lake,
Both war and climate change have the same drivers.
It follows, that if we can't stop the war, We can't stop climate change.
Stopping war, is stopping climate change.
Russian warlord Putin gloats at Europe's dependence on Russian fossil fuel supplies while mocking the urgent need to turn toward renewables. A turn which would undermine Europe's (and the world's), dependence on fossil fuels, and Putin's ability to use this dependence as a weapon.
Yeah….not hush money at ALL. JLR allgood… until he wasn’t. Dirty politics for sure
Happy Matariki to everyone. I have a question about the Commercialisation of the celebration. I know it has been discussed recently but, in my opinion, posed by bad faith actors on this site. Am watching the TVNZ Matariki Special and in ad breaks they are advertising a "Give me a Clue Matariki Special" If they can advertise that, why can't other commercial identities use Matariki in their advertising. I'm just asking about consistency. Cheers.
Only really caught up on yesterday's conversation later in the day.
I don't really understand the impulse to determine how others view this holiday, and pre-determine what significance it holds for all.
The Christians I know celebrate Christmas in both the commercialised cultural way, and with attendant church activities and sermons. They neither demand the same from others, or begrudge those that hold different faiths from not recognising the religious component.
I don't know any monarchists that have a particular form of celebration on Queen's Birthday, or unionists that hold particular celebrations on Labour Day. If they do, I've heard nothing from them about how everyone celebrated the same.
Isn't the point of any state holiday is a day to do what you wish, with those you want to share it with?
In response to any references to the commercialisation of a Māori holiday. Well, I view it as a holiday named in recognition of a Māori calendar event, which has been allotted in a multicultural society. The recognition and assignment of that name is enough.
An assumed world view about all Māori is not helpful.
Although, I choose to be a feminist, I have differing ideas about feminism than other feminists, and often disagree on feminism. As a Māori, I recognise that the diversity of individuals and their thoughts and perspectives – as with non-Māori – do not often align. As with other demographics, even if there is agreement on a topic, there remains diverse views on both outcomes and implementation.
In this region, Māori were the prime traders and were exporting produce to England, in the mid-late 1800's. To assume that they would be against trading on a holiday (if the concept of national holiday was understood) is just that… an assumption.
If to be treated and accepted equally is the goal, the the use of Matariki in advertising is an indicator.
Funny thing about this all is that i was asked by Maori – last year and this year – to make "Matariki Stars" for them to give away to children in foster care and children in school.
Should i have refused? Lol, of course not. As a native Caucasian /nonmale/nontrans/formerly known as woman person thingy from a country were we happily invent food to eat for special holidays it was a pleasure for me to make these chocolate stars and i will do them again last year.
Manawatia a Matariki to you Molly. My the ‘new’ year bring you many blessing and happiness.
why shouldn't you make stars? This has nothing to do with the commercialisation argument.
You could call it commercialisation as it is literally the same as making Easter Bunnies for Easter or Santas for Christmas. It is a product made for sale for that particular day. It just depends on which step of the ideological purity ladder one stands.
To me any holiday needs a special food that you can only get that one day or few days during which the festival/holiday is feted. It makes it a celebration. But i am roman catholic and grew up with pretend drinking of blood and eating of flesh of Christ and thus have no issue with symbolism in food attached to ones culture. Food is part of celebrations.
you were paid to make the stars?
Absolutely, without pay I don't work. I am too poor to not charge, and for what its worth i was not expected to make these for free either.
I thought it was a community thing.
I don't have a problem with people being paid, and I don't think this is commercialisation in this context either. Commercialisation would be a business making up some product to sell to take advantage of Matariki and putting on a big sale.
I view both to some extend as 'commercialisation, but i don't understand why we are ok with boxing day sales, Easter sales, Queens birthday sales but suddenly draw the line at this holiday. Either we do or we don't. Re- Community thing, making these stars cost money, and i no longer – like many other small businesses my size that used to support various charities fully and for free- can no longer afford to support these charities without at least charging for cost of making hte products that they would like to get from us. Premises, lisencing, material, etc all that costs money.
In fact i am open and working today. Just as i would do on any other holiday. Too poor to not work. 🙂
Boxing Day sales are evil, and a direct result of the whole global system that is killing the planet, enforcing slave labour in poor countries, and undermining worker rights in places like NZ.
I fully support shops to be closed on those days other than essentials.
Like I said, no problem with you making the stars as part of your business, it just wasn't apparent in the first comment where you talked about the stars being given away and I assumed it was a community thing.
and yes, yes, I understand poor people need sales to be able to buy stuff. However politically, we still have to argue against neoliberalism and for a better system. Otherwise we're just saying sorry underclass, this is the way it is, adapt if you can or die or whatever.
A Big Sale that happens to coincide with a public holiday when many flock to the shops & malls to kill time wandering with their heads bent down focussed on the little screens they hold in their hands and spend money to re-fill their materialistic needs. Viva la Commerce!
thanks for that. I was starting to wonder if I'd wandered into a parallel lw universe where consumerism was a desired god.
These neoliberal attitudes are almost impossible to shake. They have become normalised (as in normative), legalised & regulated, and embedded and permeate almost everything and everybody in our society. It took a few decades, but here we are.
Briefly toyed with the idea of a ‘quick’ Post but quickly running out of time, as usual 🙁
From my perspective, giving the role and responsibility of making a statement about neoliberalism and commercialism to this new Māori named state holiday is disrespectful to people as a whole, and a disservice to Māori long-term.
Address the issue across the board, instead of placing that whole conversation and burden on Māori concepts.
You’re accusing me of something I have not committed and reading way too much into it – I did not mention or imply anything specific about Māori and/or Matariki.
But since you provoked me, I’ll give you something to sink your teeth in.
Māori concepts and culture are being (mis-)appropriated all the time, usually for commercial (and political) reasons. At the same time, Māori concepts and culture are under permanent threat, socially, economically (e.g. tourism), and demographically and they are in chronic danger of being assimilated into our Westerns ways. To keep up, to get ahead, and to counteract past damages that have led and still lead to inequality and inequity in our society the answer/solution for some seems to be education, career, success, and then trying (out-)compete with Pākehā in the Pākehā world. In doing so, these Māori, with their heart and spirit in the right place, sell their soul to the Devil and lose their spirit in the process. It is a Catch-22 unless we, collectively as a society as a whole, come together and help their cause. The reaction to this is cries and outbursts and first twisting and then weaponising terms & concepts such as partnership and co-governance.
As you can see from the above rant, hopefully, I am not disrespectful to Māori and do not do a disservice to Māori long-term. Neither am I placing a burden on Māori concepts. You have turned it upside-down and back-to-front.
I don't want to quibble with much of what you say here. In particular I fully agree that culture can be easily misappropriated. We are for example seeing this play out as Putin steals the Russian memory of their honourable role in defeating Hitler, for a wholly debased purpose in Ukraine.
But it is also true that any living culture evolves all the time, adapting as the world around it shifts. We cannot and should not demand the Maori world remain frozen in a kind of fantasy pre-European aspic.
Yes, I agree completely, cultures evolve, which is something entirely different from being assimilated by a dominant and/or colonial culture. What I see happening is ‘Māori- washing’ thanks to the good intentions of PC warriors and the likes. It is superficial and commercial and only has the veneer of the culture it is supposed to represent but it is just empty hollow packaging and meaningless as such. Having good intentions is not the same as doing the right thing.
Te Ao Māori cannot remain frozen “in a kind of fantasy pre-European aspic” because: 1) it no longer exists; 2) who determines this way anyway? If we were to trust and respect and allow Māori some agency in determining these things for, by, and with themselves we would be on the right track, IMO. However, this seems to lead to absurd notions and equally absurd resistance, IMHO.
Final note: I guess that because some of the efforts feel so superficial and meaningless people feel more (easily) inclined to take a stance against them, i.e., they object and attack what they see as ‘virtue-signalling’ and ‘posturing’ rather than a genuine cause.
Not following that Molly. My comment about consumerism was in reference to discussion on TS.
@Incognito
I apologise. My comment was not directed at you specifically. It was a generalised comment about the idea of treating this holiday in a different way to other state holidays, and addressing the reasons for doing so.
"In doing so, these Māori, with their heart and spirit in the right place, sell their soul to the Devil and lose their spirit in the process. It is a Catch-22 unless we, collectively as a society as a whole, come together and help their cause. The reaction to this is cries and outbursts and first twisting and then weaponising terms & concepts such as partnership and co-governance."
In some cases this may be true, in other cases individuals will make choices that are not congruent with Māori values, because of other reasons, including personal selfishness, ego and sometimes for reasons of opportunity. These universal impediments to collective thinking are also experienced and acted on by Māori and non-Māori individuals.
"As you can see from the above rant, hopefully, I am not disrespectful to Māori and do not do a disservice to Māori long-term. Neither am I placing a burden on Māori concepts."
As I said, this was not intended as being directed at you as an individual, just the general idea that Māori are assigned this responsibility, in such a way in regards to this holiday. I don't believe that is fair.
I'm going to have to re-read these conversations, because I have probably lost track of it as I've come back and forth over the last few hours. I do agree with what you have said above, but I don't think it is the whole picture in regards to Māori and this holiday.
Right. I apologise again. Was making the erroneous assumption that it was in reference to the original question regarding Matariki and the advertising, but it obviously was not.
(I'm leaving the start of this comment, where I got it all wrong, to show that I got it all wrong, and responded to something that you did not say.)
Just letting you know I’ve seen your reply and all is good 🙂
I appreciate and respect your views in general and specifically as Māori and look forward to future convos on this topic. I think your attention is directed elsewhere today 😉
So true and sad.
"Otherwise we're just saying sorry underclass, this is the way it is, adapt if you can or die or whatever."
We have been saying that for a while now, in fact in Rotorua we have a street full of 'underclass' people whom we tell just that.
I am very over 'talking points' and purity spirals and the likes. People who have no money or who have obligations in this current environment all have a hustle to survive, and that hustle gives no fucks about holidays, culture, and the purity levels of people in
Academia, Arts, Politics, Pundit class etc who are either on benefits by the government or on good salaries. Those of us who are on no wages by an employer or on a benefit will have to work. And we will work when people are there and go out and about to have a good time.
Boxing day Sale is no more and no less evil then any other sale. People have money, people gift money – specially for young ones and they tend to spend it in their holiday period. And Businesses that would like to stay closed or don't want to incur the expense of paying extra to staff can stay closed. And some do.
I personally like sales to be organised as it was in Germany, i.e. Winter sale the first two weeks of January, and Summer sale the first two weeks of August (might be September not sure) and that is it. Any other promotion needs to be called just that, a promotion.
But keep in mind for some people Boxing Day Sales is a day out with their family.
if you cannot politically analyse (or won't) the dynamics and forces at work in capitalism, including Boxing Day sales, then there's no pathway out of poverty at the class level. There's only adaptation to neoliberalism and sorry for those that can't adapt. That's basically Labour's position.
I'm not arguing purity, I clearly said there are reasons why people need the sales. This is a both/and situation. We can both acknowledge that people need to adapt as well as talk about why this adaptation thing exists in the first place.
Thanks, Sabine. You too.
Good on you Molly.
Typing on phone promotes brevity. But I do want to reach out and wholeheartedly support your underlying sentiment here. Rational, tolerant and most importantly to my mind, celebrating diversity in our common universal humanity.
Great comments Molly
Cheers
Agree with all that Molly. Thanks.
What does that mean? They have adverts? They try and sell thing on Christmas day?
If people don't see commercialisation as a negative then it makes sense to commercialise Matariki. But commercialisation causes problems in society. Consider alcohol or tobacco or pharmaceutical advertisements. Or if we get to the point of advertising breast binders, puberty blockers and cross sex hormones on TV.
Commercialisation puts pressure on workers to be available on public holidays.
We know from long experience with neoliberalism, that if commerce is given free reign then bad shit happens. Pākehā culture no longer has the sense to keep some things free of that for the betterment of socidety, thankfully Māori does.
But Māori also had cultural containers for right action, including how to look after the group. It's almost impossible imo to compare 1800s practice with contemporary Pākehā practice given we are so encultured into individuality.
I meant that the Christians I know, do the whole holiday spiel. Including the buying of gifts, etc. Or at Easter, include the pagan symbols of Hot Cross Buns or Easter Eggs. It doesn't seem to create much angst for them to do both.
As an atheist, my family has it's own traditions. One that the children hate – and I love – is that they are not allowed to give me anything, but if they do, it has to be made by them. I sometimes get nothing – but do have several years of short videos made by them as they have grown. My point is, individuals and families create their own ways to mark holidays in ways that are significant to them.
Whether it is because people are a mix of their religious beliefs, and their cultural environment is for the social sciences to provide evidence for.
As an individual, I just know that for several years in my young adulthood, I both looked forward and participated enthusiastically in St Patrick's day. Neither my digestion or inclination trends that way at this stage of may life.
The significance of Matariki as a holiday, is going to be different for all, and that significance will change. Some may celebrate by use of stories and symbols – most particularly in education, maraes etc. Others who have stronger connections to Matariki will probably have their own way of celebrating that is more traditional and proscribed. But many others will just be grateful that they have another day to spend with friends and family.
Exposure to advertising that recognises and promotes the symbols of Matariki, is a commercialised but gentle reminder of the recognition of the Maaori aspect of the holiday, that replicates the advertising of other events such as Easter and Christmas.
I don't consider buying Christmas presents to be commercialisation per se. Depending on how people do it I guess, it's definitely become much more consumerist over my lifetime especially with children.
People and families marking/celebrating Matariki in their own way is also not commercialisation. Has someone objected to people doing this?
Oh, interesting. See I see the holiday as wholly te ao Māori, and Māori have been generous to share it with non-Māori. I don’t see it as a mainstream, Pāhekā dominant culture holiday with a Māori name that has a Māori aspect. I suspect this right here is the fundamental disagreement about commercialisation.
Plenty of ways for people to come to understand what it means without commercialising it, and I can't see how commercialising it will improve understanding of te ao Māori, I would guess it will make it worse. We will see.
"Oh, interesting. See I see the holiday as wholly te ao Māori, and Māori have been generous to share it with non-Māori."
That make sense. We are approaching this from completely different perspectives.
I consider it to be a government recognition of Māori by the assigning of a name of a state holiday. The significance to some Māori and is neither enhanced or impacted by this act. A separation of state and 'church' in terms of its implementation.
I wouldn't really want it to be otherwise, on reflection.
Sorry, meant to address your question re the pressure to work on holidays.
"Commercialisation puts pressure on workers to be available on public holidays."
I was one of many workers who loved being rostered on a state holiday, because of the day in lieu and the extra hourly. Many of our lower income households are the ones that already work the shifts, and weekends. They already accommodate within their households the varying conflicts of their work with the assumption of normal schedules for schooling, activities etc. Those families co-ordinate their time off with other family members, rather than the community at large.
It is a consequence of falling incomes and rising costs, but we shouldn't ignore those that welcome the financial benefit of increased wages by working on a state holiday.
"But Māori also had cultural containers for right action, including how to look after the group. It's almost impossible imo to compare 1800s practice with contemporary Pākehā practice given we are so encultured into individuality."
Pakeha history also contains examples of group knowledge and support. Māori, historically and now, have individuals that also are proponents of individual enrichment.
I believe it is as vitally important to recognise the diversity of views and life practices within the Māori demographic, as we automatically do within the non-Māori demographic.
It is both a sign of respect – and equality – to do so.
Yes, but this is an argument for adapting to neoliberalism. Understandable and I support the pragmatics, but politically I'm in favour of system change. Better employment law, living wage etc. Public holidays with strong symbolic meaning are a chance to shift culture.
Yes, and British and Māori cultures were quite different in the 1800s, as are Māori and Pākeha today. My point stands, that us now, are engrained in individualism, and this is in contrast to Māori culture which has a much stronger emphasis on the collective good. The problem with commercialisation centres on the collective good.
"Yes, but this is an argument for adapting to neoliberalism. "
Could be viewed that way. Personally, I see it as one of the more inventive and pragmatic ways that people find to deal with the failures of neoliberalism. Until the political landscape improves and material changes are felt at individual levels, people find ways to adapt and thrive.
"Māori culture which has a much stronger emphasis on the collective good. "
Many cultures have this emphasis. Many demographics also contain individuals that practice this without cultural reference, whether it be through religion, environmentalism, socialism etc. It's a perspective to support, but not necessarily adhered to by all Māori individuals or organisations.
there's a balance to be had about adapting and political change. Much of the GI debate is centred in adapting to and making the most of neoliberalism.
Of course. When I talk about cultural norms, it's a given that not every individual or org fits or adheres to that. But I don't think it's incorrect to say that Māoridom is currently better at attending to the collective than Pākeha society, generally.
I understand what you are saying.
But I am cognisant of the difference between a concept, and how the concept is lived across modern Maoridom.
Part of that comes from my lived experience with my relatives and marae, some from the same observational scrutiny I use for others. I am fully aware my experience is only one of many, and not necessarily representative, but it is still true, and not one-off.
not following this one either, sorry!
For me it's a given that in any culture (or set of cultures) there is variation. Is it me making a general statement about Māori culture that is the sticking point here? Is it an untrue statement? Or are you wanting to make more visible the variation within Māoridom?
"But I don't think it's incorrect to say that Māoridom is currently better at attending to the collective than Pākeha society, generally."
Purely from my personal perspective, it's a generalisation that I think it is not necessarily helpful.
If Māori have a really good functioning community, this is where the best aspects of Te Ao Māori can be lived, and seen. But there are Pākeha examples of the same too. We can recognise both, without the need for a comparison of merit.
As in all common groups, there is the possibility of those within in acting outside of those values, but not being held to account because of the roles, or power, or relationships they hold in those groups. Eg. Marae based organisations have the same vulnerability of church based in this regard, and just as my Pākeha friend has borne the brunt of that protection in her church, I have direct Māori relatives with similar experiences in their marae, that were also failed because of the commitment to solidarity rather than individual accountability.
I love those aspects of Te Ao Māori, and I acknowledge their value. But for me credit is given to whomever encompasses those values, in all ways. Whether Māori or Pākeha. Growing up with both Māori and Pākeha relatives, that had similar methods of sharing and community endeavours, I had always thought of it as New Zealand culture, and am reluctant to let that understanding go, so I realise it might be a personal one, rather than one that expresses adequately the conflict between the cultures today.
This deprecation of individualism out of hand omits the enormous benefits it brings. The kind of overreaching tribalism that readily sacrifices personal welfare for the greater good comes at its own terrible cost. It is why most people choose modernity at the first opportunity they get.
Unconstrained individualism on the other hand carries its own alienation and social ills.
I would suggest these two principles are best thought of as mutually interdependent, each necessary to support the other. It is impossible to imagine a good, healthy society full of depraved, dysfunctional people. Equally a tyrannical, oppressive society will fail to inculcate admirable people.
In conversations where I know the understanding and perspective of the other person, it is easier to give my perspective without going into areas I did not intend.
So, it is easier to explain in principle, rather than specifics.
I believe that in most cases – if not all – when implementing a process, or determining a solution, there is going to be impact or cost. This recognition doesn't mean that the solution is not the right one to undertake, just that there are costs to that decision that should be recognised and accommodated in some way.
As you say, both unconstrained individualism and tribalism carry both their own benefits and costs. A system that finds a way to capture the benefits of both would be ideal. Of course, in some situations one approach will predominate, while in others the opposite will be true.
Regardless, there is a cost to either of those approaches.
Effective (rather than punitive) regulation and policies might address the excesses of individualism, while processes that ensure individual accountability despite a recognition that the group embraces us in all our flawed humanity need to be included.
It is the optimal balance between the two that is so very hard to achieve, and requires ongoing review and tinkering. Sometimes, in real life, people who see the benefits of either approach, champion that approach and don’t recognise the costs when they occur – because we are not trained to look for additional problems resulting from our mostly great solutions.
And some people have to work, regardless of whether it's a holiday or not (or our civilization will grind to a halt). Nurses, electricity workers, sewerage station workers, water supply, etc., etc.
Public holidays have never (and can never) include everyone.
Was in the CBD this morning catching up with a friend, and came across a Matariki festival. Maori musicians, stalls selling food, and general Maori themed nicknacks, jewellery, clothes, etc. Observationally (I didn't instigate a whakapapa check), these were all Maori – happily commercializing 'their' festival.
Absolutely don't have a problem with this. And I think that it reflects a range of views on this from within the Maori sphere, just as there are a range of views on Christmas/Easter within the Christian sphere.
I think there's a real miscommunication about commercialisation here. To me it's not selling things per se. It's appropriating something into the neoliberal market with the intention of making profit with no regard for the wider good. I gave examples above about areas we restrict eg alcohol advertising.
People having a local market and selling stuff isn't commercialisation, it's community.
Obviously. The point was that commercialisation has enforced more people having to work on public holidays, unnecessarily. Easy to make a case for nurses being needed every day of the year. Not so a $2 shop, or a baby shop.
"I think there's a real miscommunication about commercialisation here. To me it's not selling things per se. It's appropriating something into the neoliberal market with the intention of making profit with no regard for the wider good. "
OK, I think I understand the distinction here.
If I do, I believe this to be a bigger conversation, rather than application to Matariki as a state holiday.
You realise that our economy and civilisation will implode. Just ask Kirk Hope.
Who incidentally produces nothing.
Noble Savage Romanticism.
The public adoption of this posture is a form of narcissistic virtue-signalling from affluent Culturalists utterly divorced from cold hard Reality.
you appear to be the one with noble savage notions in your head Swordfish. There's absolutely nothing overt or implied about the nobela savage in the observation that Māori cultures are more collective focused than Pākehā in NZ. Neither is there anything controversial in my statement. Nearly 40 years of neoliberalism ffs.
By all means use lazy anti-woke virtueless signalling in lieu of an actual argument against what I said though.
Reality is cold and hard?
No, it ain't.
Reality is binary,
Then again
https://medium.com/encounter-in-nineveh/the-binary-universe-and-simulated-reality-dfc578658ac9
It from Bit (John wheeler)
Information gives rise to "every it-every particle,every field of force,even the space time continuum itself"
Not only is the observer observing,she is asking questions,and making statements that are expressed in discrete bits,"what we call reality" as Wheeler wrote "arises in the last analysis of yes/no questions'' and added 'All things physical are information -theoretic in origin,and this is a participatory universe'
From Gleick (the information)
It is or it is not. There’s no question about it.
Binary?
Christian mystics (and others) would argue that it's a ternary.
Your thoughts, Poission?
H=n log s
Democritus though, failed to understand what opinion is.
No it isn't. (sarc) (Reply to Poision at 3.50pm. – Reality is binary.)
I suspect it is unitary
You are writing of our perception.
Certainly not for affluent old virtue-signaling hippie fantasists in the rural idyll of small town Riverton.
You wouldn't have too much of a clue about life elsewhere, however.
"Can anything good come out of Nazareth?"
– John Ch1, v 46.
It's surprising what comes out of the periphery.
How unkind, swordfish, and ad hom 🙂
“affluent old virtue-signaling hippie fantasists in the rural idyll of small town Riverton.” is harsh.
Why are you so harsh?
There has been some interesting korero today. I had hard day behind the chainsaw, followed by the weed eater for desert. Nothing like some honest levity to end my day.
Those who hold your view are dying.
Those who hold political and increasingly commercial power in New Zealand are a rag-tag battlefleet of educated post-settlement Maori, gays in all their forms, remaining unionists, urban activists, environmentalists, feminists, sustainability types, fitness and muesli freaks, poverty activists, all the massive companies addicted to the state, the deep left within key ministries, the great HoMoPoMo conspiracy of them …
… and together they have changed the language of political discourse forever.
It's OK. We know you hate them all. But your view will soon die.
Today is just one day where all of them break out into the open, official and permanent. Hoisted to something as real as the stars.
Beautiful, Ad!
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You're beyond clueless … I’ve noticed time & again when you can’t adequately answer a point, you concoct any old smear that happens to be passing through that narcissistic brain of yours.
Obviously you think a cheap bit of character assassination will give you some sort of quick “win”.
Agree Swordfish
Have you just read yourself?
Very blade-like, your sword, fish.
Pretty tactless Ad when you know Swordfish has cancer.
+1 Anker
A tag team of nasty bastards…so much for the 'empathic left'.
Really Ad? Don't you know Labour are going down in the polls and likely are on their way out.
Many years ago, I became aware of aspects of the Matariki cluster (I drove a Subaru back then) and it's importance to gardening. The two "figures" around whom on the ground action was centred, Rongomatane and Haumietikitiki ( nga atua of cultivated & wild food) really inspired me, as did the focus on assessing food stocks and planning the next seasons mahi nga kai. I've marked Matariki ever since then, with regards to those aspects. I'm not a good star-gazer – myopia and colour-blindness aren't advantages to peering into outer space, so the earthier effects are where I connect with nga whetu. The national celebration we are enjoying now, hasn't changed my prosaic view of the celestial event; I still only consider Matariki from the growers point of view, but I do celebrate the wider involvement and awareness of all of us living here on these South Pacific islands of ours.
A good friend of mine, who has just complete a degree in weaving, incorporated the Matariki cluster in her final submissions and her graduation korowai. The stories related to her pieces are both connected to her iwi's stories, and her own life.
Such personal recognition and how we honour it at individual levels will be wonderfully diverse and significant, even if that recognition is not universal.
Your personal story is another example, and with your circle of influence – which I know is considerable – may spread that knowledge wider and create another unique but shared celebration of Matariki in your community.
I hope that is the case in many different rohe, but believe that it is sustainable only as an organic and personal process rather than a proscribed one.
That's a good perspective, Molly.
Chris Trotter has a go at the issue and sweeps across many of the points, but ends with this:
"Isn’t it possible that Matariki may yet prove a cure for, rather than a cause of, racist contention? Maybe, as the Earth grows warmer, and the pretensions of science and modernity are increasingly laid bare, the hunger of all Aotearoans for gods and heroes will increase. Perhaps, when we realise that these islands are all we’ve got, the thought may grow in our hearts and minds: If all things are, indeed, related and alive, then why not be guided by the stars?"
I like that.
That's a good quote from Chris Trotter, but I think fails to acknowledge the overlap between the Te Ao Maori view and many other perspectives that are also aligned with recognising the connectiveness of all things, and the value of recognising this in the day-to-day choices we make. I also don't need a god or superhero to follow in order to make informed choices, but I can understand the residual longing for such easy solutions to the problems we have ahead.
When I first became aware of, and was finding out as much as I could about climate change – I can date this by one of my children – so around 23 years ago, I included in my immersion searches for organisations around NZ that were not only identifying the problem, but recognising the scope of it, and inviting solutions.
There were a few, but none organised that did all three. It was easier to find individuals speaking out or writing about the issue.
As the children got older, I looked in particular for Māori organisations, and found one Māori youth group – bookmarked on a now defunct desktop. But even then, the understanding of the impact of climate change was limited.
Over time, references to climate change started to appear in organisations Māori and non-Māori alike, but mostly in reference to getting funding or grants for local conservation or regeneration efforts, rather than a demonstrated understanding of the impact of the whole. Thankfully, this has slowly changed over time.
My point is that Māori, just like non-Māori – despite their common good view – often treated the example of climate change as it affected their group and rohe, not as the wider global problem it is, even though they had the concepts to consider the whole, in practice the scope was limited to the familiar immediate.
I agree with the concept of understanding the value of the living biosphere.
For me, I recognise that in a myriad of ways: in teachings of Te Ao Māori, in the environmental perspectives that I follow, my understandings of science, my personal values and political views, my concern for those who follow us… etc. The more we encounter that perspective in our lives, the better.
Well said Molly.
Nope, no Israeli influence over US policy.
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https://twitter.com/juliabacha/status/1539673763658317824
Outrageous.
"You don’t have to like or agree with Vladimir Putin to take seriously the speech he made to the St. Petersburg Economic Forum last week. Five paragraphs – from an otherwise long and somewhat dull presentation – stand out:"
https://consciousnessofsheep.co.uk/2022/06/22/the-new-new-new-world-order/
I don't know if this has been discussed before on TS but apparently Putin was aboard the Mikhail Lermontov when it sank in the sounds in 1986. Shame he made it off the ship.
Excellent…I will read The Fall…Camus is good value…quirky.
Lermontov died at 27 like all of the good artists.
He died the way of Pushkin, shot in a duel.
I had heard that Putin was supposed to have been in New Zealand and attended the inquiry into the sinking. I hadn't heard the idea that he had actually been on the ship though. Where did you hear this?
My favorite memory of the event was David Lange's quip about the sinking. "Lange declared that little old New Zealand was "the only nation to sink a Russian Ship since the Second World War."
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/tv-no-show-leaves-that-sinking-feeling/FKJ67R5OQ7JDEZ7KNSVTUEXUDA/
A usually reliable friend of mine told me last night. Happy to be contradicted if wrong. I must admit I thought I would have heard about this before if it is true.
There was funny goings on with that ship
It was, and probably still is, normal practice of the Soviet submarine service to mask the acoustic signature of their submarines with a surface vessel when transiting shallow waters where the opposition could be listening.
Many of the Pilot's actions, going close to shore and going through the channel that turned out to be a bit tight, could be interpreted as trying to minimise or remove this masking.
It was also odd that our navy arrived to pick up the pieces within minutes, they were doing a hydrographic job nearby.
I suppose that once the details of the affair are disclosed, (aren't they held in Richard Prebble's personal library?) we may get to know a bit more.
There was a cartoon in Southern Cross of a Fred Dang character telling one side to bugger off, turning around and telling the other side to bugger off too. I understood that related to NZ telling USA to bugger off with it's nukes, and someone else.
PS How do you upload an image (jpeg) to TS? I've got the cartoon but not as a url
There was funny goings on with that ship.
I remember that. Didn’t Winston Peters make some allegations along the lines we were not being told the truth about it?
That man's wit is legendary.
Maggie Thatcher sent Baroness somebody-or-another to NZ to tell David Lange he wasn't to do the Oxford Union Debate. The encounter was contentious to say the least and when she left his office he called out to her "hey Baroness you've left your broomstick behind".
For anyone who may be interested, the following is the latest session from the US Congressional hearings into the Jan. 6th Capitol riots:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjMNdMqxuiQ
It covers the shenanigans in the weeks leading up to the riot. Lengthy but gripping stuff.
Could have had worse!!
Our wannabe crusher will be green.
https://twitter.com/Phil_Lewis_/status/1539572438752759808
This is who they are and the Bethlehem school mob are singing from the same sheet.
https://twitter.com/hemantmehta/status/1539633483957551104
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyUqro8d310&feature=youtu.be
https://www.mediamatters.org/tucker-carlson/right-wing-media-are-pushing-vigilantism-against-trans-people-and-drag-queens
This is who they are and the Bethlehem school mob are singing from the same sheet.
I've looked….but I can't find where the Bethlehem School are saying that LGBTQ people should be killed. Or that violence should be directed towards them.
Pray, joe90, provide a link to where you found the information that led you to make this claim.
(There's a difference between believing that 'God doesn't make mistakes.' and 'LGBTQ people should be killed.')
WTF would I bother providing anything to you.
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No link then Joe90
Can you read between the lines?
If I read between the lines there is a good chance I am making an interpretation that is not correct.
It may be correct or it may be incorrect, if you want to deal in/with binaries only. Question is what you’re going to do with it that adds to the convo here?
Defend them all you want, but statements like 'God doesn't make mistakes' does get people killed. Either by gun or pills it makes no difference. If you're beaten down enough by words from those you are supposed to look up to, life can become very bleak.
"Defend them all you want, but statements like 'God doesn't make mistakes' does get people killed."
How does that get people killed?
Their Statement of belief contains references to the sovereignty and will of God, https://www.education.govt.nz/our-work/information-releases/issue-specific-releases/integration-agreements-for-state-integrated-schools/integration-agreements-for-state-integrated-schools-a-b/ .
One oft repeated Christian viewpoint, when people are going through personal struggles, or times of crisis is: 'God doesn't make mistakes' or 'God moves in mysterious ways'. Not particularly helpful, from my point of view, but not deliberately meant to harm, but rather to console.
And so, we really need to know the context of that quote. How the conversation was initiated, and who was involved. If a student has made the statement that God had given them the wrong body, then I am not surprised that it has been challenged with the response that 'God doesn't make mistakes' within a Christian environment.
Why are so many feigning surprise at this viewpoint, as if we know nothing at all about Christian beliefs?
Suicide. If a member of the LBGT Community continues to be told they are a mistake or you're going to hell because you're an abomination, etc etc etc, either by their church leaders or idols (looking at you, Folau), the potential for suicide is elevated. If they show welcoming and inclusion in their Religion then they show the good and right side of Christianity, it seems to me, these people show the opposite.
Suicide or lifelong depression.
From the inside of a fundamentalist church for my early life I know exactly what it's like to watch people question their sexuality, let alone their gender assignment.
I've seen the demon outcastings, the shunnings, humiliations, the one-on-one interviews, the training camps to re-educate you. Usually they leave, to start their entire life again, fairly damaged.
And yup, suicide and lifelong depressions among a few.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2022/06/uk-transgender-patient-suing-national-health-service-after-changing-mind-about-reassignment-surgery.html
A story about a man who had surgery to transition as a woman and now is suiing the NHS. good on him. It is a harrowing tale.
good on newshub for covering that.
I wonder if the new funding for trans healthcare will cover such situations.
The mental health impact on detrans people is intense. I don't think it's controversial to say that gay and trans people in fundamentalist churches can also have their mental health put at risk. Maybe we could have consideration for all people.
Can you explain how a gender is assigend at birth?
Sex is 'identified' early on in a pregnancy and then confirmed by birth. Sex being the visual secondary sexual characteristics of a human being i.e in an new born it is a boy – penis/scrotum, a girl – vagina.
But last i checked babies are not born without these sexual organs (or like barbie dolls with nothing down there blelow) , and no doctor will order a nurse to go into a Storage room in wich there are shelfes full of spare penises/vaginas that can then be affixed to the new born child on the whims of a doctor/midwife/nurse. If that would be the case i believe that femicide in India or China for that matter would not happen as all the parents would choose the 'boy tackle' to be affixed to the sex less new born.
Sexed bodies are OBSERVED at birth and not 'assigned'
assign
/əˈsʌɪn/
verb
past tense: assigned; past participle: assigned
allocate (a job or duty).
"Congress had assigned the task to the agency"
Similar:
allocate
allot
give
set
charge with
entrust with
designate or set (something) aside for a specific purpose.
"managers happily assign large sums of money to travel budgets"
I have a dear friend that also had harms that were not helped by the involvement in such a church.
It affects all those who fall outside of the church doctrines in any way, not only those with different sexual orientations or gender expressions.
That constancy of having someone tell you the right things to do comes at a a very high cost to all. The church either adapts or fails, as the people within it find they are able to survive without such control.
I'm sorry to hear that your upbringing meant that you witnessed such things as a child, Ad. But it doesn't seem that Bethlehem College is at that extreme from what has been reported so far.
Suicide, is not "getting people killed".
Mental distress, and not being able to get appropriate support for that distress makes people more likely to attempt, and possibly succeed at ending their own lives.
" If they show welcoming and inclusion in their Religion then they show the good and right side of Christianity, it seems to me, these people show the opposite."
Given that I – and it seems many of the commentators who dictate a "good and right side of Christianity" – are atheists, I fail to see what the intent is here.
Tell those whose sense of self falls outside the teachings of the church in about the failures of historic religious doctrines to serve anyone other than the church.
Tell them, that they can find other more understanding churches to accommodate their belief in God. If they don't have a belief in God, then encourage them to dismiss anything they say.
AFAIK, Bethlehem College did not put up a display or make a determined point in regards to this question. From the (very little) that was reported a teacher answered a student with "God doesn't make mistakes" – a familiar and oft used Christian phrase.
Give ALL students the resilience and tools to deal with disagreements without resorting to self-harm as a response.
Now, let's address the common use of suicide ideation in transgender advocacy. Despite this being against every suicide prevention guideline, advocates bring up the issue of suicide as impetus for non-therapeutic social and medical interventions.
This is using the threat of suicide as a means of coercive control and manipulation.
Surely, the answer to mental distress at this level is extensive and comprehensive therapy (and only therapy).
Further point: The student was told that there was NO mistake in their existence. Not the opposite. They wanted to be told there had been a mistake.
How about "no child is born in the wrong body"? The vast majority of young people with bodily dysphoria related to their sexed body will resolve that with the right support by the time they finish puberty. Most will grow up to be perfectly "ordinary" same sex attracted people.
Thanks for your diversion, but that's not a road I'm able to go down, other than 'if NO child is born in the wrong body' how come only MOST will grow out of it, that leaves a lesser number who will not grow out of it, they are still people and will still suffer. I'm off out to join a diverse group of people to celebrate Matariki so, Cheerio.
The people who don't desist from their gender dysphoria I think will likely have a tough life and I do feel for them. I hope they get the right support.
I posted further down about a man who had gender reassignment surgery and woke up full of regret and realized he had been castrated. He is now suing the NHS and I wish him luck.
"… how come only MOST will grow out of it, that leaves a lesser number who will not grow out of it, they are still people and will still suffer. "
If we had the answer to this, then any concerns about the long-term effects of inappropriate treatment would melt away like morning dew.
It is precisely the inability of being able to determine who will persist and who won't that makes the issue of both social and medical interventions for minors such a contentious issue.
If the majority do grow out of it – and there are other issues here regarding the very large increase in adolescent girls – then caution regarding treatment is well advised for this cohort. Not providing medical interventions until they are grown seems a precaution that seems advisable, given the permanent and long-term outcomes from intervention.
For those that do persist – is there a way to alleviate the distress until such time they are fully cognitive adults?
This is the conversation we need to be having about treatment for minors.
It is one that requires a lot of research, input, perspectives and considerations. But the consequences of failing to even contemplate this discussion by the adults, will – as ever, be borne by the children and young people we are entrusted to protect.
How about canning the whataboutery just to shoehorn in your favourite bogeyman just this once? That would be nice. We know where you stand on that particular issue, ad nauseam.
I think there are parallels between 'god doesn't make mistakes' and 'born in the wrong body' that are worth exploring. If you don't like the conversation, maybe just scroll on by. Telling other people to shut up because you don't like their politics isn't going to run on a political blog.
The original post on this thread was about the harm to transgender people by adherents of Christianity.
Extremists gonna extreme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG5BcU1ZGiA
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/09/14/violent-antipolice-memes-surge/
Rosemary yesterday mentioned (https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-23-06-2022/#comment-1896276) this Microsoft Report:
Defending Ukraine: Early Lessons from the Cyber War
https://query.prod.cms.rt.microsoft.com/cms/api/am/binary/RE50KOK
Not an awful lot of data in it though and heavy on rhetoric. But it is more than what our Government has shared with us, so far.
SVR
• Historical revisionism
• Think tanks & academia
Who would have thought that could be so divisive.
Quite helpful russian propaganda though, giving kiwis a heads up on vaccine effectiveness and side effects was probably useful for many.
With half the cases and ten times the deaths per capita. Nah.
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😀 You're by far the funniest commenter around here on TS and that's saying something. 😀
Uncle sam the old rooster wants to gather in as many of his loyal hens as he can reminding them that they need him to keep them safe but he knows the cold wind of change is beginning to stir and he sees the young challengers on the periphery strutting their stuff……….
From the Microsoft report
I had noticed that a number of the covid-19 deniers and anti-vaxxer commenters also supported the Russian Federation invasion and war against Ukraine.
I had thought it was just the same old anti-government useful idiots pushing wacky right wing pseudo-science conspiracy theories.
Anyone able to fill out Josie Pagani’s CV? I’ve seen an awful lot based on her candidacy for a Labour seat a decade ago. Then I hear rumors about her being an oil lobbyist or having connections to one which you never see listed at the bottom of her columns. Does she have P.R. or lobbying clients?
Just sticking my nose in really, but you know it would be interesting to know when reading her writing.
Her husband was the oil lobbyist.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/standing-her-centre-left-ground/KNL2I32IG65ZL5NTMU7JD3YCVU/?c_id=280&objectid=10847238
The newly merged media company will be named "Aoeteroa New Zealand Public Media " lmfao oooh boy that's a name that'll catch on.
ANZPM. Could they fit any more letters on it?? That's the best this govt and it's army of pr reps and gargantuan legions of consultants can come up with ?!? Really?!? Lmao. Ridiculous. Call it NZBC like ABC CBC , BBC.
When the majority of the public see ANZ they think ANZ Bank or Australia/New Zealand and NZPM is shorthand for the Prime minister.
If ANZPM is the name of this new organization, thanks but no thanks rnz and tvnz can keep.
Ridiculous.
If they name it anzpm I'd almost be inclined to vote act in the hopes that shit gets privatized.
I'm a millennial, My generation has no interest in watching NZ content, why should we have to pay to fund it ?
The world according to Corey Humm. Speaks for a generation, does young Corey.
I’m not surprised you want to vote ACT because they, like you, are culture killers.
Check your ego, son.
Cheek of you to talk of ego
[Stop needling Muttonbird – Incognito]
Mod note
Ok
Agree PR
It was not Muttonbird claiming to speak for a generation.
Corey Humm you have nailed it again! 100%
ANZ – does have a resonance here in NZ, as standing for Australia New Zealand.
ANZ bank is one. But ANZAC is another, and so is ANZUS.
I agree it is a fail on the acronym side.
Have to disagree here though:
"My generation has no interest in watching NZ content, why should we have to pay to fund it ?"
My response, typical of an old fuddy-dud, and partly – but not wholly – tongue-in-cheek: Eventually, you'll grow up.
We have two official names – and the media concerned is as much "consumed" online than by broadcast.
Sounds familiar.
https://twitter.com/Justin_Ling/status/1539768218973265923
On Wednesday, these anti-vaccine groups kicked off a summer of planned protest with an event inside Canada’s Parliament buildings in Ottawa, supported by sitting Members of Parliament. Outside those buildings is where the so-called “freedom convoy” took over Canada’s capital for several weeks this past winter, setting off similar movements across the globe.
[…]
The Integrated Terrorism Assessment Centre, an arm of the Canadian intelligence community that provides intel to local law enforcement agencies, warned in a special bulletin that they’re seeing mounting “aspirations to overthrow the federal government or to engage in mass violent resistance.” The bulletin was provided to VICE World News by a law enforcement source.
According to the intelligence assessment, the chance of an organized attack, a storming of Parliament, or another occupation of the city is “unlikely,” and Canadian intelligence and law enforcement believe the protests will most likely be peaceful and lawful.
Yet, they warn, they’re increasingly witnessing “a culture in which individuals, including supporters of ideologically motivated violent extremism (IMVE), feel that they can threaten, incite, and celebrate violence online without consequence.”
https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3pz7x/conservative-mps-anti-vaccine-convoy-ottawa
Follow the money.
Who would have guessed that Wall Street has an interest in denying abortion rights.
https://www.businessinsider.com/wall-street-finance-anti-abortion-lawmakers-2022-5?utm_source=notification&utm_medium=referral
Roe v Wade was not a good ruling:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/21/us/ruth-bader-ginsburg-roe-v-wade.html
Follow the money II
https://www.businessinsider.com/employers-in-abortion-ban-states-face-retention-crisis-2022-5?utm_source=notification&utm_medium=referral
It is in big business interest to oppress women.
PR – RBG said it was the right ruling, but on the wrong basis.