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Open Mike 24/08/2018

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  1. Ed 2

    Boycott Wakanui Beef, its stockists and the restaurants it uses.

    These Auckland supermarkets were on Wakanui’s list of stockists before it was taken down.

    Countdown Ponsonby
    Countdown Auckland City (Quay Street)
    Countdown Browns Bay
    Countdown Green Lane
    Countdown Meadowbank
    Countdown Milford
    Countdown Mount Eden
    Countdown St Johns

    These Christchurch supermarkets were on Wakanui’s list of stockists before it was taken down.

    Countdown Colombo Street
    Countdown Ferrymead
    Countdown Northlands
    Fresh Choice Barrington
    Fresh Choice Parklands

  2. ianmac 3

    Hoax news or true???

    “Bridges and Parliament’s Speaker Trevor Mallard both received an anonymous text message last week from a person claiming to be responsible for leaking the information to Newshub, sources told RNZ.

    The text author reportedly said they had leaked the expenses because they disagreed with Bridges’ leadership style, describing him as “arrogant”, and wanted him to be held to account for his spending of taxpayers’ money….

    RNZ said it had not seen the text, which is believed to have detailed a number of conversations and pieces of information from National caucus meetings over a period of weeks in an attempt to prove the author was a National MP.”

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12112670

    • ianmac 3.1

      Imagine the special National Caucus meeting this morning.
      Eyeing each other.
      Fake news Judith?
      Simon crumbling?

      What next?

  3. Ad 5

    From President Trump’s interview yesterday at the White House with Fox and Friends, came this lovely quote:

    “If I ever got impeached, I think the market would crash”
    “I think everybody would be very poor. Because without this thinking,” he continued, pointing a finger at his head, “you would see, you would see numbers that you wouldn’t believe in reverse.”

    I love the smell of fear from evil politicians.

  4. veutoviper 6

    POPCORN DAY

    It has to be a Popcorn Day – even a vegan Popcorn Day if you put a vegan spread in it rather than butter.

    Between Australian Liberals and our very own Bridges, and Trump, we really all need a bit of a funny break, so here is one.

    https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/world/364819/texan-becomes-viral-sensation-amid-australian-political-turmoil

    It starts “As the political turmoil in Australia heated up on Thursday, a popcorn company sales manager from America received a whirl of notifications buzzing on his phone. …”

    ROFL

  5. I agree with Ashley.

    “Ashley Judd said: “We hold any and every abuser accountable, regardless of their gender, race, socioeconomic status, public visibility or popularity.” ”

    https://i.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/film/106527889/metoo-actress-asia-argento-now-admits-to-sex-with-underage-boy-in-leaked-texts

  6. Andre 9

    Heh. That one juror that held out on convicting Manafort on those bank fraud charges really didn’t do him any favours. It just opened the door wider for state authorities to go after him too, in which case a Drumpf pardon wouldn’t help. That’s because it was declared a mistrial on those 10 charges, so state-federal double-jeopardy rules won’t apply.

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/08/paul-manafort-will-likely-go-to-jail-if-trump-pardons-him-thanks-to-a-lone-holdout-juror.html?via=homepage_taps_top

  7. joe90 10

    Looks like UK voters bought a pup.

    THREAD: No deal papers- we've looked through so you don't have to. This is what a no-Deal Britain might look like (caution this might take a while):— Lewis Goodall (@lewis_goodall) August 23, 2018

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1032576458642915328.html

    • greywarshark 10.1

      joe90
      The twitter.com.lewis link is amazing and horrifying. I don’t think any animal’s good name should be besmirched by connecting it with Brexit.

      Does that twitter feed have an adult rating? There are big words in it I don’t understand, and don’t think I want to understand. I want to run away to Mummy but can’t find the door. Help.

  8. Carolyn_Nth 11

    PM has apparently called a mystery press conference for 4pm today. This is unusual for late on a Friday.

  9. soddenleaf 12

    ownership. Someone declares they own land, a resource, even people have been owned. What I don’t get is why once you own something you can on seal it without any risk, it’s this that creates legal dumping of waste etc. Everyone who touches, uses a product has a ownership right over the cleanup.

    • Draco T Bastard 12.1

      Everyone who touches, uses a product has a ownership right over the cleanup.

      QFT

  10. Timeforacupoftea 13

    Jacinda has just removed Curran from cabinet – bloody great effort from ministers from Poverty South Dunedin.
    Benson Pope removed by Clarke now goodbye Curran.

    • Puckish Rogue 13.1

      Hmmm Curran removed from cabinet just as an inquiry is ended…

      • McFlock 13.1.1

        Except Labour didn’t have access to National’s expenses, did they.

        edit: she forgot about another bloody meeting? Doofus.

        • Puckish Rogue 13.1.1.1

          Well we’ll never know but I’m guessing Jacinda didn’t want all National getting all the publicity so she pulled this out last thing on a Friday

          • McFlock 13.1.1.1.1

            Yeah, ain’t it nice that the bad news thrown out late friday afternoon is simply holding a stupid minister to account, rather than burying a flurry of reports of how badly the entire government is doing.

            Almost like responsible government.

      • Cinny 13.1.2

        Yeah…. Nah, PR

        ‘The Speaker has called off an inquiry into the leaking of Simon Bridges’ expenses details, saying he believes the perpetrator is from within the National Party.’

  11. lprent 14

    Evidently when there is a hot topic post up Open Mike goes really quiet.

    I actually went to check for problems when I looked at the comments this afternoon.

  12. Ed 15

    Last weekend I copped a fair bit of abuse for encouraging people to stop drinking.
    Maybe this might persuade some of you.

    No healthy level of alcohol consumption, says major study
    Governments should consider advising people to abstain entirely, say authors.

    Even the occasional drink is harmful to health, according to the largest and most detailed research carried out on the effects of alcohol, which suggests governments should think of advising people to abstain completely.
    The uncompromising message comes from the authors of the Global Burden of Diseases study, a rolling project based at the University of Washington, in Seattle, which produces the most comprehensive data on the causes of illness and death in the world.
    Alcohol, says their report published in the Lancet medical journal, led to 2.8 million deaths in 2016. It was the leading risk factor for premature mortality and disability in the 15 to 49 age group, accounting for 20% of deaths.
    Current alcohol drinking habits pose “dire ramifications for future population health in the absence of policy action today”, says the paper. “Alcohol use contributes to health loss from many causes and exacts its toll across the lifespan, particularly among men.”
    Most national guidelines suggest there are health benefits to one or two glasses of wine or beer a day, they say. “Our results show that the safest level of drinking is none.”
    The study was carried out by researchers at the Institute of Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME), who investigated levels of alcohol consumption and health effects in 195 countries between 1990 to 2016. They used data from 694 studies to work out how common drinking was and from 592 studies including 28 million people worldwide to work out the health risks.

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/aug/23/no-healthy-level-of-alcohol-consumption-says-major-study

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(18)31310-2/fulltext

    http://www.healthdata.org/research-article/alcohol-use-and-burden-195-countries-and-territories-1990%E2%80%932016-systematic-analysis

    • Bewildered 15.1

      Cheers Ed I raise my glass to that

      What a load of rubbish, thousands of people who are mild drinkers and live full and happy healthy lives make what you say and your silly self affirmation research a load of shite

    • Bewildered 15.2

      Cheers Ed I raise my glass to that

      What a load of rubbish, thousands of people who are mild drinkers and live full and happy healthy lives make what you say and your silly self affirmation research a load of shite

    • McFlock 15.3

      It’s an interesting study, but I’m not too worried. In NZ we have a much lower risk of tuberculosisthan Russia, so that would skew the odds. It’s a bit like BMI, really. And that’s if the confidence intervals come out right, anyway.

    • Rosemary McDonald 16.1

      Finally got some internetabilty to check the news not covered by Natrad and there that was.

      Beggars bleeding belief.

      Similar thing happened up in the FFN with a couple of the water consent applicants. They were found sucking water from the Te Aupouri aquifer before the consent was approved. They got the wet bus ticket treatment and business goes on…

      We have spinless jellyfish of Regional Councils in this country. Anyone recall the exact date we sold our souls?

      Now, if Jacinda declared a ban on water bottled in plastic…woo hoo!

    • JC 16.2

      https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2018/03/chinese-company-drills-water-bore-in-christchurch-despite-council-warning.html

      The consent allows 1.6 billion litres a year. In China, the shelf price for 10 litres is $27, which means potential sales of $12 million a day or $4.3 billion a year.

      “The process, we believe, is flawed – we believe it is unlawful,”

  13. Ed 17

    Remember boycott the stockists of Wakanui Beef.

    • ianmac 17.1

      Today it was reported that there were about 19 of the Wakanui cattle have the virus. Isn’t it contagious and in a herd of 19,000 cattle?

      • JC 17.1.1

        Hmmm .. 19000 x say $1500 a piece …. my calculator went in to spasms …..

        Unsure how MPI will cope with that? and/or who should be responsible for this Madness! ….

        Nathan?

  14. Morrissey 18

    MEMO: Wayne.
    You need to watch this, as well as do some serious reading.

    Norman Finkelstein on the “really sordid, filthy campaign of blackmail and extortion to try to get Corbyn on his knees or preferably out of the party altogether.” (Aug. 17, 2018)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsFhCkb8j6E

  15. Descendant Of Sssmith 19

    Some interesting thoughts on history and democracy.

    https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/05/10-lessons-from-1930s-germany-for-democracies-today

    “First, referenda are dangerous, especially when they are rarely used and the electorate has little experience with them.”
    ………………
    “Fifth, a political culture in which leaders demonize their opponents erodes democracy.”

  16. Eco Maori 20

    The sandflys have blocked my computer so much for free speach they love national I could see the tears when Winston chose to form a Labour Green. Government.
    One thing te tangata will be guaranteed is that ECO MAORI will never turn to the neo liberals capitalist view on reality no matter how much money they throw at me OUR Mokopunas can not eat and breathe money. Ka kite ano

  17. Eco Maori 21

    Here you go trump is just stuffing the people future get his administration to delay chemical plants safety rules.
    The week before I seen a article about trump backing a law that bans chemicals that cause brain damage in Mokopunas yea right the truth was the US Courts struck down there attempts to clear the use of these chemicals the fake it till you make it move Ka kite ano link below
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/aug/17/epa-setback-court-chemical-safety-environment

  18. Eco Maori 22

    Many thanks to Norway’s plan for electric planes Ka pai link below Ka kite ano

    http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20180814-norways-plan-for-a-fleet-of-electric-planes

  19. Eco Maori 23

    Here we go even doctors are biest against Wahine link below. Ka kite ano

    http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20180518-the-inequality-in-how-women-are-treated-for-pain

  20. Eco Maori 24

    Good evening Newshub come on those small towns trump supporters could not even look straight this tells me that they have no faith in trump.
    There you go I seen that story about alcohol what I would like to see is the Mokopunas to treat the stuff with caution and stop getting in the – – – with this stuff Ka pai News Hub.
    Stop mineing on conservation land that’s what it’s for to save Papatuanukue endangered creature like arches endangered frogs in the coramadal.
    I’m going to look into the medical marawana for my Mokopuna she is in constant pain Im still no happy with the diegnosestic of her pain I blame the sandflys full stop if she had been tread right from the start she would not have this problem.
    Kate I found a good series Marco Polo it’s excerlint.
    Ka kite ano P.S the League team deserves to celebrate there win Kia kaha

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