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Step up to the mike …
"Disconnected from reality"? Isnt that NACT1 summed?
The lunacy of fast track, roads we need, and the literal urgency behind all that NACT1 are pushing..belies any sense, or rationality.
Further to the Future is Rail and links I have earlier given…
here is a positive action.
Napier-Wairoa rail ain't coming back and the Ruapehu mills are gone, so they're getting rid of almost all rail staff at Napier.
The Napier-Wairoa rail was one of the NZF regional growth fund promises from 2017 (IIRC). In the most recent election, they've promised to investigate the route through to Gisborne (although, I don't think that will happen – it's simply not economic).
NZF have been traditionally supportive of rail as a regional support initiative.
I wouldn't be surprised if re-opening the Wairoa rail line was still on the cards.
Money lost when they cut TREC.
Looks as though Peters and NZ First (yes, I know the two are synonymous) still want rail on ferries.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/interislander-winston-peters-wants-rail-on-ferries-national-isnt-so-sure/JUISSIRWSZEYNJONAEMD4SLJ3Q/
I guess it seems difficult to see Peters as the White Knight for rail services in NZ….
The RNZ story and the Treasury and MoT advice within is a public service nightmare of massive proportions. It's on previous and current governments.
NACT1st turning into a right "Dog's Breakfast" pushing things through as quickly as possible without much thought. Cancel the ferries without a Long Term Strategic Plan is not Super Smart IMHO.
Theres definitely a strategic plan IMHO.
Luxon, seymour, jones, bishop, Willis and co are the managers tasked with execution and will be rewarded based on that.
Youve already seen those who arent team players being moved aside. Coster, Lee, Simmonds, various others like NZH board etc
Absolutely. Mountain Tui and Mickey Savage have done detailed Posts on same , the involvement of Taxpayers union, Atlas Network et al, many here have also commented to it.
And as you say..
Directorships, Board memberships, etc etc coming .
Still doesnt belie their lack of sense and rationality for us the rest of NZ…..
Yup no surprise to see shonky era ministers with well paid roles in the plunder as they have proven themselves.
Can you shed a little light on that? They will be rewarded by who or what? Do you have details?
Science? We dont need no frickin' science !
Of course! " sustainable management of the environment and effective adaptation to climate change" is not any part of NACT1's program !
NACT1 taking us into a new Dark age….: (
Gathering real data about "sustainable management of the environment and effective adaptation to climate change" might imply some onus on governments to plan for such things. If there is no plan, and the cards simply lie where they fall, there will be interesting opportunities for the private sector to profit from whatever eventuates on the climate front.
Are you bankrupted by losing your home in a flood and insurance won't pay out? No worries, come to our exclusive trailer park, shop at the on-premises company store and enjoy our vibrant 'community'.
As the definitive user(loser?) pays… come to pass.
And re your second paragraph….maybe satirical, or, welcome to a possible Future NZ.
The deluded mugs that voted for change, will find out that survival of the fittest, did not include them.
I feel much empathy and sadness for the rest of us.
Luxton's Press Secretary Resign's – I wonder why, he wouldn't be fricken easy to work with IMHO ??? Probably throw a few wobbly's and throw his toys around.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/528968/christopher-luxon-s-chief-press-secretary-resigns
It’s no secret that Nicola Willis is also in (urgent) need of a Senior Press Secretary.
They’re entitled, but Willux could consider setting an example by sharing a secretary
If far right-wing sop Hamish Rutherford couldn't cope in Luxon's office then you know how extreme this mob's policies are. When Rutherford was a reporter you could more often than not guess the pieces he wrote just going by the headline.
A fubar mess in the middle east led by the rouge state of Israel. War crimes are now normal from this Crazy State, and governments in the West shrug.
So we all get to sit, and watch Israel kill more civilians, blast the last vestiges of the Lebanon economy to dust – all the while our own government does nothing.
I do wonder what would happen if people started to remove Israeli products from the shelves, would the government act then?
I gather that there has been an informal consumer boycott on buying Israeli consumer goods for some time, by pro-Palestine activists. Of course, we don't actually import much, so it's had little effect.
According to this, the largest value trade is in gas turbines – not something the average consumer can purchase (or not, as the case may be)
https://oec.world/en/profile/bilateral-country/isr/partner/nzl
The gutless EU in particular could do much more to get something happening, US Imperialism will not turn the money and arms tap off in the short/medium term, so it is up to the worlds people to stick it to the Zionists via BDS–Boycott, Divest and Sanction. Hit the Israelis where it hurts–economically and culturally as we did with Apartheid South Africa.
There is a massive international solidarity movement around the world in support of Palestine, but it may tragically be too late given the IDF butchers starvation policy, which is backed up by various Mid East Authoritarian rulers such as the Egyptians that will not open the border for substantial aid.
NZ activists are targeting Israeli humus in supermarkets for example with stickers, which is a start, don’t buy Sodastream, there are alternatives now. BDS has a lot of info on how those of us at this distance can help.
https://bdsmovement.net
Thanks for that link TM.
https://bdsmovement.net/get-involved/join-a-bds-campaign?country=New+Zealand
Good to know I can actually do (boycott) something, no matter how small.
http://www.bdsnz.org.nz
https://kiaoragaza.wordpress.com/
I stopped buying Sodastream CO2 gas refills a couple of years back because Sodastream is based in Israel.
After purchasing a commercial type gas cylinder I could buy 9kg of gas for $65 instead of paying a pre-rise price of $35 for a 400gm Sodastream refill.
That changed a bit when Marsden Refinery closed and left Todd Group as the only supplier of NZ produced CO2. The 9kg refill went up to $120. The cylinder and an adapter are not a cheap outlay. However even at the new price the 20 odd refills I made from the more expensive CO2 have covered the cost of the outlay and left me ahead.
Israel will not notice one individuals effort, but at least I have stopped supporting what amounts to a terrorist state that is constantly transgressing established borders to terrorise citizens of other states.
Hear, Hear.
Looks as though there are plenty of alternatives to SodaStream in the market.
https://www.epicurious.com/expert-advice/the-best-soda-maker-for-the-sparkliest-water-and-the-bubbliest-cocktails-article
“ Of course we have no need for seismologists, what do they do anyway, just look into holes to see when earthquakes happened hundreds of years ago, what I’m saying to you is we need more go-getters, team people, dynamic people, people to take us forward going forward, not backwards like Labour looking in holes , Im saying to you they must have been employed under Labour making those holes financial ones that’s where the 150 billion went, in holes. Labour spending wasteful amounts on looking in holes. What’s a seismologist anyway.. oh a what?, earthquake scientist ! …No need for them not dynamically forward looking team members going forward that’s what I’m saying to you. What I’m say to you, we’ve had our earthquakes they are in the past, we won’t have any more under National, we are going to ban them, they cost too much I’m saying to you the scientists probably wear patches with names on them, under National, they,re gone and I’ll personally be looking in their wardrobes for anything with insignias on them, that’s dynamism leadership for you, whatever that is I’m saying to you, now don’t start me on volcanologists, they just fly round in spaceships with funny ears right ? They’re gone too, no need for them I’m saying to you.”
Remind you of anyone? Looks like an arse , is an arse, talks the stuff that comes out of an arse.
Thank God, I feel better now I’ve got that off my chest.
Hoots Adrian. Somehow captures Luxon chatter
FIFY
Oh! and don't forget.. "We are working immensely hard …"
But at what? is the question.
What I am saying to you is we are absolutely laser focused – couldn't be laserer.
Well done.
In reacting to the head of ANZ saying the time had come for a CGT, I heard the Prime Conflict of Interest, the Minister of Entitlement say something about an bankers wanting to take money away from us.
Ironic much, when one has just made a few $100,000 tax free capital gains from selling one of the spare properties from the portfolio.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/home-property/350425447/christopher-luxon-sells-onehunga-auckland-investment-property
To Tiger Mountain, the Egyptians do allow aid in, the IDF blocks most of it. Egypt does not want to be compliant with the Israelis genocide and emptying Palestine so they can sieze all the land. Egypt is not wealthy it could not possibly feed an house an entire nation.
Egypt does not want to appear compliant with the Israeli genocide,
But it is. And has been, for a long time.
The PA leader Mahmoud Abbass asked the Egyption leader Al Sisi if he could lead an international delegation into Gaza through Egypt to break the Israeli blockade. Al Sisi replied, Yes, but only if the Israelis approve it.
The military regime Abdel Al Sisi, and the military regime of Hosni Mubarak before him are longstanding backers of Israel's illegal siege of Gaza.
The Palestinian ambassador to the UN, Riyad Mansour in a speech before the UN Security Council told the UNSC that the president of the Palestinian Authority, Mahmoud Abbas, was going to lead a delegation to Gaza to stand by the Palestinian people. Abbas is calling for all leaders to go with them to Gaza
"Who is stopping you from doing this?" Riyad Mansour
When your troops run from the mushroom clouds, you better do what the crazy government wants.
A plan to disenfranchise Americans – called the Save Act – that the GOP tried to include in a government funding package has not succeeded.
It would have required proof of citizenship to vote, it would have created a roadblock for women (where the name on electoral roll is not the name on their birth certificate).
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4889074-hakeem-jeffries-election-rules-government-funding/
Emma Goldman
The fact they even put the Save Act on the table is shit. But the far right have won in the West. So we get use to it, or we stand up and push back.
Mitt Romney hopes the kids are alright.
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As our conversation in the spring wound down, I decided to ask Romney a question I’d somehow neglected to bring up in our dozens of interviews before: What—if anything—gave him hope about the future?
[…]
When I put it to Romney in his office, he told me about a book he’d recently read, The Age of Acrimony. The book chronicled America from 1865 to 1915, a period in which the country was exploding with political energy, much of it destructive. Torch-carrying mobs held massive rallies that turned into riots. Political assassinations were widespread. Many people were predicting a second civil war. Then, in relatively short order, “the air went out of the balloon,” Romney told me. Presidential-election turnout rates plunged from 80 percent in 1896 (when many people were bribed for their vote) to less than 50 percent two decades later. Romney invited the author, a historian at the Smithsonian, to his office. He wanted to know what had changed. How had a nation addicted to partisan tribalism and political violence managed to break the cycle? The author told him that members of the generation that had come of age during this “age of acrimony” simply decided they didn’t want to live that way anymore.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/09/mitt-romney-trump/679994/?gift=otEsSHbRYKNfFYMngVFweJRyM6zVmiDMVs-lJxkjpjs&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=social
Oh dear, Luxon is not happy about a CGT tax. and his happy clappy finance minister agrees with him. I wonder if the gullible amongst us who hang on to his//hers every word will be able to figure out the real reason why:
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/529018/luxon-takes-crack-at-anz-boss-antonia-watson-over-capital-gains-tax-support
Mammonites Rule, Christian's Fooled.
National party oppose any tax which will hurt their greedy mates. This the core of the evil theological position our PM is a sucker to. As for the happy clappy fool of finance minister, needs lessons in Greek and Armamic that one – with a good dose of non-Euclidean geometry added.
Daddy Luxbucks knows …
“As an alpha male, I understand what she’s doing…”
Gideon Brown telling another lie.
He said the new Manawatu road is being tolled because of the addition of cycle lanes, which were not budgeted – trying to tell us that motorists will have to pay tolls all because of those commie greenie cyclists
He really has a pathological hatred of cycles, it seems. Perhaps he should see a professional about that. Scary that we should have such an unbalanced character as this with so much power.
What he didn't say was that the cost overruns were mostly because the new road was initially going to be a single lane each way, but later was changed to double lanes for a lot of the way, obviously will cost more. Double lanes for cars – that is.
Also didn't say anything about the fact that all the costings were done long before Covid was even a rumour. Anything being built at the time was subject to huge increases in costs that had not been anticipated.
Anything. Not just roads.
But no, its the cyclists fault.
Divide and rule, that is what National do, and have always done.
Perhaps he should install a donation box at each end of the new road so that cyclists can thoughtfully make a contribution and pay their fair share.
I hoped to provide a link to the article but can longer find it.
found the link:
http://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/528916/manawatu-highway-s-200m-cost-blow-out-shows-need-for-toll-minister