Todays little gem from Granny…it appears National supporters are more likely to be unfaithful and have affairs. After that they drink Coke and fuck us over.
Huh? The the article says people who sign up to a marital cheater website are National voters, own a PC, drink coke, eat meat, have a tattoo, smoke and be a Christian. Nothing about pepsi.
Right you are Carol. I did not want to waste any bit of my life reading the article but have now done so and it looks like Pepsi is the true drink of leftys …
Labour leader David Shearer, who visited one of the Crafar farms yesterday, said he supported the Fay-led bid, which included iwi interests.
“My feeling is that New Zealanders should be able to buy their own land and we should at least give them the first option to be able to buy it,” Mr Shearer said.
New Zealanders have had two years to bid for the Crafer farms.
They only had to offer what the banks considered acceptable (actually below) to the loans that they gave the Crafer family, and the Chinese would no be at the party.
As for Michael Fay he is only looking to screw somebody, as he has done often in the past.
It seems to me that Labour has picked up from where it left off before it made a few desperate attempts to stench the blood of its base, maybe six months before the general election, and is back on the same political, tactical moral and public-relations trajectory, with the same players calling the shots, and the same heads in the sand, and just a new face for the brand.
Thursday 26 January 2012
Is NewstalkZB about to radically change its nature?
Child abuse—that perennial talkback favourite. It’s always fascinating (and horrifying) to listen to radio hosts like Larry Williams, Mike Hosking, Leighton Smith and Susan Wood ranting and railing against the Labour/Green “nanny state” that finally (in 2009) abolished parents’ immunity from prosecution for assaulting their own children, and in the next breath condemn the parents who take smacking (which these radio hosts support) a tad too far and end up killing their children.
It might have surprised some people, then, to hear this morning, just after 7:30 a.m., one of these fanatical anti-nanny staters and pro-kiddy whackers, Susan Wood, suggesting that the state should indeed do something about child abuse.
Speaking very slowly and with the deepest voice she could manage, in order to emphasize just how serious she is, Wood put the following question to the Hon. Paula Bennett: “Do you think it’s time for the state to intervene more proactively?”
Does this signal a radical change of policy at NewstalkZB? Will the hosts of this station now cease to defend the “right” of parents to hit their children?
Who knows, but perhaps the hosts of this station will reverse some other of their long-established policy positions and speak out against knife killing, assaulting of women, Chinese government goons roughing up New Zealand MPs in the grounds of parliament, the mass killing of civilians and the destruction of hospitals, power stations and schools.
Is NewstalkZB about to radically change its nature?
Not bloody likely! There’s a big difference between 2008 (the smackng law passed 2008) and 2012. What passed for ‘nanny statism’ under Labour becomes acceptable practise under National.
I’m waiting for the light bulb legislation now – under a pseudonym name of course.
Some will tell you that the woes of the Keydom result from simple human failings like greed, a lack of understanding or compassion.
But our rulers know better. They know that the fault does not lie with them, after all to rule is a reflection of the grace of God and confirmation of his favour.
There is a plague upon our land.
A plague of Witches.
They will be identified by their weakness.
Those with little money or little power, those whose voices are easily silenced, those whose wretched human failings set them apart from the virtue and nobility of the people – they are the cancer that eats away at our prosperity.
They must be found and punished, all of them. It may take many years, for as everyone knows Witches breed like rats, and if one touches you it is likely that you too may be infected.
They may resist, but do not be discouraged, for both resistance and assisted confession are clear indicators of guilt.
Light the fires, the promised land awaits.
Update: Paula Bennett confirms that innocent people may be burnt and asks NZ:
It is your choice: burn the innocent, or let the guilty go free.
Now i am old fashioned and thought that law and process and morality had something to do with it.
Lets not take any chances eh?
I made a decision last year to never again listen to “newstalk”ZB ever again. Everybody has their own barrow to push but for a radio station to ram their outdated rwnj agenda down the throats of listeners is a disgrace. Late in (Leighten) the line for brain allocation Smith and Larry Williams loves his neighbour Key make me wanna chunder or do a Laws shootout gig. And in between the propaganda their high amount of adverts makes the name ad-talk ZB seem more appropriate.
As interesting bug caused by a comment that made the page kind of hard to see (ie black). Fixed both the immediate cause in a comment and prevented it from happening in the future.
Hey folks, as a random aside – have you noticed how incredibly bored, disinterested and contemptuous as ever JK looks, now that he’s been forced away from his holiday in his mansion in Hawaii or wherever he was? It was disturbing to see his return on TV3 news, mind you the sight of him always disturbs me any way, but he’s not even bothering trying to mask that he couldn’t care less about the crafar deal, chch and anything else of critical importance to NZ. It’s like he’s run out of “smile n wave juice” His face just screams “oh, god, theres all this lot to deal with again, this just isn’t what I signed up for”
Yes Rosie I noticed his “don’t wanna be here” demeanor as well.
Never mind he’s off to Australia for another well earned break to watch the tennis shortly.
It follows on from the comment about how well TV3 are working for National, Carol. It’s either the next sentence or part of the same sentence. He’s claiming ownership of Garner and Gower. Amazing what results a cheap loan to Mediaworks will bring you in terms of fawning coverage. Very, very problematic for the two reporters.
not just your hearing, its pretty hard to figure out what they are saying, but whatever it is it sounds like a very dull conversation, they say something like ‘ooh, that labour party are so nasty, we would never do anything nasty like them” , but yeah hopefully someone transcribes it.
Is it technically possible to remove the back-ground noise? I could just hear names being mentioned. I’m sure I heard JK claim something to the effect… Nah, he won’t make it. Got about 4 last time. He’ll get 3 this time. Winston Peters?
Downloaded and listened to it on headphones. A lot of the first half is about polls, saying Labour’s negative campaigning doesn’t work, and Key being very smug about how he apporaches the media – positive upbeat approach etc. Then he and Banks rehearse what they are going to say to the media after their tea.
Then they mention some woman MP as being pretty good and Banks talks about how he is approaching his campaign – but can’t hear a lot of the details.
So that’s it? Where is the “scandal” the media (and of course many on this site) hinted at? And more why did John Key (or his advisers) handle it so stupidly?
My theory is they handled it the way they did because it put the whole focus of the couple of weeks before the election on the tapes rather than on anything else Labour could’ve wanted.
Obviously that plan worked but whether it actually helped the result is debatable.
It got Winston into parliament. So I’d say that backfired pretty badly on them.
I attribute Labour’s poll slump to their stupid decision to announce that they would extend WFF to beneficiaries and the superannuation changes also weren’t well-received.
Yeah that sounds about right – the working for families thing cracks me up as I’m willing to bet had Labour announced that they were giving additional money to beneficiaries who have children rather than framing it as an extension of working for families it would have gone down a lot better.
Key: Most photographed cup of tea in the world
Banks: This is a very good media contingent
K: Yeah, it’s huge eh
B: I got to tell you
K: Wherever I go though there’s really big numbers, normally ???
B: I mean ah, there’s 30 here today, that is very very good
B: …the labour party has ah given up on Epsom.
K: oh yeah
B: he’s a horrible little fella that candidate
B/K: nasty, nasty
K: but yet they all are??? they’re a very nasty party in a lot of ways
B: well, you know, they’re putting ah, they’ve been putting things in letter boxes about me, shocking socking stuff
K: yes yes, it’s nasty. that’s what they do, they play the person the whole time. we never do that stuff.
It goes on for a little bit after that but it’s hard to hear.
They talk about Winston, Key thinks he won’t get higher than 3%. Didn’t hear anything about supporters dying off, though.
Right towards the end (around 6 minutes) they are apparently talking about ACT leadership and suggest whats-her-name would make a good leader, give a female perspective/influence, and refer to “that other guy” and an odd-fellow, to which Key agrees. He says something about “when they called me up in London”, I guess talking about when he was first parachuted into the party.
I think that phone call relates to the Don brash comments. It comes after Key agrees with him being an odd fellow & says “we’ve been down that road, that is why when they called me in the UK…”
Can everyone please put the start time by the snippet of conversation that they have heard thanks.
If a couple of dozen people transcribe 20 seconds each, we’ll have it finished.
Yes , then after we have done all that transcribing and debating the phonetics and intent of each statement we can back mask it so we can hear the true hidden message about JK wanting to murder all infants in their sleep, or something similar.
B: he’s a horrible little fella that candidate
B/K: nasty, nasty
K: but yet they all are??? they’re a very nasty party in a lot of ways.
I’m sure there is a medical name for their delusional habit of transferring their own nasty, deceitful behaviour on to the shoulders of their opponents!
Indeed. How contradictory is it to criticise Labour for negative campaigning by smearing Labour as “the nasty party”? This was in reference to Goff calling Key a liar and to the letter drops about Banks in Epsom. Yet, Labour also had far more positive policy stuff.
In the ‘Today in Politics’ section of the Dom this morning there was a note about how John Key is watching the Primaries from Hawaii and how he thought Romney was going to win. So far, so usual puff piece on our totes amazing PM.
However, at the end of the piece it said something along the lines of “Unlike Mitt Romney, Mr. Key said he will not be making his tax returns public.”
Why not? Why shouldn’t he? Shouldn’t the public finally get proof of the ‘fact’ that he pays his entire PM salary to charity? Shouldn’t we get to see proof of how ‘revenue neutral’ the tax switch was to one of NZ’s richest men?
Not sure what I think about politicians having to release their tax returns – tend to be interested obviously but not sure they should have too.
Did want to point out though that him releasing his tax returns would not show how revenue neutral the tax switch was for him as you would not be able to see how much GST he has paid on anything other than expenses directly relating to his income (which would not be much probably just bank/accounting/legal fees).
Why shouldn’t he? Shouldn’t the public finally get proof of the ‘fact’ that he pays his entire PM salary to charity?
I was working at the time of the election, and was stunned and horrified when a
20-something colleague said she’d voted National because “Key gives his parliamentary salary to charity”. I asked her for details, and of course she didn’t know anything. It confirmed me in my belief that pretty girls of 22 or so, are as dumb as toast. (After all, if you’re young and pretty, you don’t need to be clever, you’ll get (and keep) a job anyway, hey?)
Thanks AdrianK! let us know how you get on with the rest of the conversation. I’m not surprised by whats been said so far. and there was a lot of speculation about the “NZ first supporters dying off ” comment wasn’t there? If he really is referring to the elderly, he is such an evil bastard, but we know that anyway don’t we.
Sounds like one of those dialogues that reveals information damaging to Key that you’d only realise if you were in the loop. He was sure Winston wasn’t going to be back. So embarrasment for internal polling? We all know how egotisical they all are, but it seems a flimsy pretext for the massive overaction that followed. At best, it’s an indicator of his true personality and he’s done a better job at emphasising that than anyone else.
Other than that, does anyone want his mobile phone number?
Does badmouthing Labour and Winston count as the nastiness that Banks and Key say that ACT and National don’t engage in? Banks says he never plays the man… unless it’s Winston … or “the brown man climbing in your window…”.
I don’t think so. The law regarding the legality of the recording has not been established… besides, posting a link to highlight that somebody else may have broken the law is not publishing. I would argue that having the embed code is also not breaching the supposed law… I’m publishing the code, not the recording. The recording has already been published and is now common knowledge… even if they bother to remove the original uploaded recording, it will be republished again because that’s the nature of the internet.
Just direct people to Kiwiblog, where DPF gives the name of the uploader.
If National’s official spokesman DPF thinks it’s OK to release the tape then who am I to argue?
That needs to be removed, Ev. It exposes The Standard to potential legal action. I’d hit the ‘request deletion’ button pronto, if I were you.
ps, Ev, a mate has just discovered the truther madness. I did my best to show him the obvious stupidity of the argument, but he insisted on ‘learning’ more, so I recomended your site as the best repository of ‘facts’ about 9/11. Hope you don’t mind me endorsing you!
So sue me. I did not publish it someone else did and I linked to it just like others on the thread. If they are stupid enough to sue everybody who linked to it and downloaded it and spread it I hope they start at Kiwiblog because that is where I got the link from.
Otherwise your submission to the vindictiveness of our ruling elite looks pretty sad to me.
It wasn’t you being sued I was worried about, Ev, it was the Standard. The Tories would love to be able instruct the coppers to close this site down, so giving them an opportunity to do so seems foolish. However, I see there is now a post which gives the address, so the mods must be confident that there will be no legal problems from linking to it. I hope they are right, but that doesn’t make you (or the others) any less irresponsible or thoughtless for publishing it.
TVOR,
The link had already been posted here and just about everywhere before I did. Jackal is very clear as I also stated I did not publish it here I linked to the person who had published it. I have no intention of jeopardising anybody’s blog. So fuck off with your yellow bellied whinging and kowtowing to the powers that be.
CV: it’s not just a question of the internet; there are real people associated with this site and real consequences if the Police were to decide that The Standard had ‘published’ the leak. They’ve already shown themselves to be actively willing to censor the media at John Key’s personal request, an action not seen here, since, oh, 1951.
I note Farrar immediately put up a ‘do not publish the address’ note on his site, and whatever his politics, the man is not stupid.
Ev: it is you who is yellow bellied, by recklessly putting somebody else’s site at risk. Feel free to set up camp on the moral high ground at your own place. You would always have the legal defence that your whole blog is satire and nothing you say should be taken seriously.
That’s up to the trustees, moderators and admins of The Standard. I’m sure most of them are grownups who are capapble of making judgement calls about such things.
Dead right, McFlock, but I made my original comment at 1.16pm, well before any of the mods appeared to be aware of the release of the tape. I was urging caution for a genuine reason, but it is definitely their call once they are aware and they have made their position clear by putting up the address themselves.
Self censorship, they’re relying on it. Put it another way, if any of the Standard administrators ever get charged on this, they’re going to have one hell of a big defence fund.
That is why I linked to it, rather than posting it. Not much law on linking.
As it stands there is a hell of a lot of grey area between the requirements of an exemely slow ongoing police investigation and the requirements of public interest. I probably wouldn’t have released it, certainly won’t hold it in this country, and have no real issues with linking to public accessible copies.
Speaking of police investigations, they still haven’t bothered to look into my formal complaint concerning Owen Glenn trying to bribe people to vote Nact. Perhaps if the Police had given my complaint the attention it deserves, I might feel a bit more inclined to adhere to their requests.
Oh God you’re a nasty piece of work. It is you who is going for the moral high ground and your stupidity has no end. Last time I looked Iprent was very good at protecting the Standard and I have no doubt he would have banned me forever if he thought I jeopardised this blog.
So get of your high horse, grow some balls and pull your head in. LOL
[lprent: Yep, you’d be out of here if you caused the site problems, and I think that you only received a few warning bans long ago.
I might not agree with people but if I booted people for that then there wouldn’t be any posts apart from my words of wisdom. Even then it is a bit problematic as I tend to disagree with myself frequently. It is a operating requirement for any good programmer to always second guess themselves on everything because that is how you remove inaccurate presumptions.
People most commonly get booted from here for behaviour that attacks the site, authors, or effectively causes shutdowns in the comments. Most of those are pretty apparent. The next most common reason can roughly be defined as “boring the moderators”. Which is a direct derivative of attacking the site: bored moderators stop moderating which causes a shutting down the comments as moderators stop the really really boring flamewars that rapidly diminish the numbers of people reading comments. ]
Oh, noes! I pissed off a paranoid righty by suggesting they take care that they don’t damage somebody else’s property. However will I get over the shame?
If the police are going to have a go at anyone for revealing how to find the video, they will of course have to prosecute DPF, who was the first person to publish the name of the uploader to Youtube that I could find. That name is still there on Kiwiblog. If it disappears I have a screep cap of the Kiwiblog page that mentions the name of the uploader. So I guess the police will not be prosecuting anybody will they? Otherwise dozens of blogs can keep harping on this matter until the next election.
Thanks Lanthanide and others for providing us with the service of your ears. Still not bowled over by whats been said, on the surface of it. I don’t get why they (jb, Jk, and Nat) went all uppity about it, called the police and started crying and going all po faced. So far, as much as we know theres nothing there that is scandalous (unfortunately) or defames anyone. Labour would know they’re not liked, they get it every day that parliment is in session. To my mind JK’s accusation towards Labour that they organised that guy to attempt to get over the railing at the public gallery in parliament last year was far worse, and then the throat cutting gesture. What a dick. I did love the lolnats take on that though.
No, I think the comments about odler constituents dying off is there. The only other possibly damaging thing at the time of the elcction was the lack of faith in Brash and the promotion of Isaacs.
Although key’s smearing of Labour as “the nasty party” is…. nasty, given he’s referring to Goff calling Key a Liar, and some appparently pretty tame mail drops about Banks. That’s an over reaction altogether. And Key’s apology says he says things differently in private than in public…!?
Tim Selwyn’s take on the tap has a couple of extra details, and the dogiest stuff may have been said in a whisper, after Banks says he didn’t know, following the 15% snap election comment:
Starts with voices of handlers shooing the media away. Then they talk about what a good media turnout they have – about 30 press. Then Key talks about polling, saying he expects National to ease to 50%: “around 49”.
1:54
JB: “the left have been nasty”… “you have no idea how vicious they’ve been, especially at public meetings […] we can handle that…”
2:45
JB: “Someone said that you’d be working with… ah, ah…”
—
Now there is no name mentioned but they both know who they mean. There’s a lot of nod, nod, wink, wink with that – are they talking about a journo, a consultant? Then Key tells Banks what he will say to the media when they finish their cuppa. You can hear the clinking cups etc. so the “teapot”. Then Banks tells Key what he should say:
—
3:30
JB: “You might be inclined to say ‘I know John quite well’ […]
JB: Do you think Winston will cross the line?
JK: “Not a dog’s show. He’s at 2.5 on TV3 […] He won’t poll much over three…”
[…]
5:20
JB: Labour have given up on Epsom. […] Labour are nasty…
6:10
JK: The reason I don’t text is it puts you under pressure to say whether he has or hasn’t […]
JB: I haven’t talked to you. […] Catherine and the 4 of us […] restructure the party…
—
So Banks thought he could get 4 in. They got only himself in in the end, but he was still confident at this point – just as Key was that Winston wouldn’t make it. Act falling and certainly the rise of NZ First was in large part due to the existence of this recording.
—
JB: He’s a strange fellow the other fellow, isn’t he
JK: Mmm, yeah, oh yeah. Yeah, no, we’ve been down that road. The reason why when they rang me in the UK I never ever thought that […] 15% a snap election.
JB: No, no, I didn’t know, I didn’t know.
—
That odd fellow they refer to is Don Brash. What the hell 15% and snap elections have to do with anything and why Banks is claiming profusely that he didn’t know is odd.
Excellent work. Let us please use this format. If in doubt as to the speaker, leave the start of the line blank. And feel free to dispute any transcript so we can have another listen.
7:20
JK: What do you want to do, scan it?
JB: Yep.
…
JK: Is that yours?
JK: Is that yours?
JK: Is that yours?
JB: No.
JK: Hey that’s a recording device.
…
It’s someone’s recording device.
Let’s take a look.
7:50 recording muffled
Gingrich calls for moon base, space contests
An interesting headline because, as the text makes clear, what he’s actually calling for is more state subsidies of private business. Here’s the text:
Gingrich said he wanted to spend 10 percent of NASA’s $18 billion budget on prize money for competitions that spur innovation and technological breakthroughs in space.
US$1.8b into private hands per year.
During a debate in Florida on Monday, Romney said he believed space should be a priority.
“What we have right now is a president who does not have a vision or a mission for NASA. I happen to believe our space program is important not only for science, but also for commercial development and for military development,” he said.
If it was important for commerce then it would already be happening. ATM, it’s still far too cheap to continue to destroy the Earth’s environment for private profit.
The really funny thing about that is that US$1.8b is chump change:
Apple’s cash balance is now a quarter of its $415 billion market capitalization and roughly equals California’s 2012-2013 state budget.
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Climate Explained is a collaboration between The Conversation, Stuff and the New Zealand Science Media Centre to answer your questions about climate change.If you have a question you’d like an expert to answer, please send it to climate.change@stuff.co.nzWhy do people still think climate change isn’t real?David ...
Back in 2011, journalist Nicky Hager published Other People's Wars, an expose on NZDF's activities over the previous decade of the "war on terror". NZDF didn't like this, and especially didn't like the fact that it was base don leaks from their own. So, they had the SIS investigate him ...
The Zero Carbon Bill is due back from select committee in two weeks, and will likely pass its final stages in November. So naturally, farmers are planning a hate-march against it. But they're not just demanding lower methane targets so they can keep on destroying the planet; they're also demanding ...
Last year, California burned. This year, to stop it happening again (or rather, to stop themselves from being found liable if it happens again), Pacific Gas and Electric is cutting power to half the state for a week:Schools are closed. Traffic lights down. Tunnels dark. Businesses unopened. Hospitals running on ...
The Best Way: Missing from the on-line voting debate is any reference to the voting system that produces turn-out figures ranging from 77 to 93 percent of registered voters. The voting system used to collect and count the votes cast in our parliamentary elections. The system that involves citizens making ...
Among the great new bunch of political friends we have been making recently is the excellent Australian-based Marxist gender-critical site, Freer Lives. So we asked the comrade who set up that blog to write something for Redline on the blog, himself, his analysis of the rise of gender politics and ...
by Don Franks The Auckland City Mission is struggling with a 40 percent increase in demand for food parcels this year. A total of 23,020 were needed by June. Last month Missioner Chris Farrelly told the Herald the “cupboards are bare” and without an emergency food drive, he can’t see ...
by The Council of Disobedient Women Massey Wellington Student Association had a sit-in today. Imagine a sit-in. On a campus. Against a women’s rights meeting. Did the ’60s really happen or did we fucking dream it? They gathered in the student square, an echo chamber. Sitting on soft pillows ...
For some reasons, my post about the mystery message from inside the Downing Street bunker seemed to catch people's attention. Quite a lot of hits from NZ (unsurprisingly) and the USA (a bit more puzzlingly, but hi there, USAians!!) and 76 views from the Ukraine.I've celebrated my Ukrainian readers in ...
First, almost a score of Labour MPs seem to have sent a letter to the EU basically begging them to accept a deal - any deal - just so Britain can get the Heck on with Brexiting instead of being trapped in limbo:
by Phil Duncan In 2016 the National-led government suspended the Parent Visa Category, through which migrants were able to bring their parents into New Zealand. Since then over 5,700 people have been in immigration limbo, stuck on the visa wait list. Labour is now bringing back the scheme. Well, sort ...
The following was released yesterday (Tues, October 8) by the women’s liberation organisation Speak Up for Women. On 23 September Speak Up For Women announced that we would be holding an event at the Massey University Theaterette in Wellington. The event is called Feminism 2020. The intention of the event ...
The government is currently consulting on plans to improve freshwater quality. So naturally, farmers oppose it:South Taranaki farmers are preparing to fight proposed national freshwater changes that some fear will bankrupt them. The Government's proposed National Environment Standard on Freshwater Management, released in September, rated the Waingongoro River as one ...
Yesterday was the last day for (reliably) posting your vote away in local body elections. Turnouts are mostly much lower than the equivalent time last year (Palmerston North is down 2.3%), and so naturally people are pushing their online-voting snake oil again. Because the online census worked so well, lets ...
This essay, on the political legacy of the eugenics movement, by Kenan Malik was originally published in the Observer on 6 October 2019, under the headline ‘The spirit of eugenics is still with us, as immigrants know to their cost’. Birth control. Intelligence tests. Town planning. Immigration controls. It’s striking how ...
Another year, and the government has announced another enormous government "surplus". And just like last year, its nothing of the sort. When we have people homeless and sick and hungry, when we have schools and hospitals still falling down, when we have underpaid public servants and infrastucture unmaintained or unbuilt, ...
James Forsyth at The Spectator (I know, I know) has tapped one of his contacts inside Number Ten for an insight into the Johnson administration's thinking and strategy.It is fascinating, unsettling and quite, quite mad. Some key points:Negotiations have stalled and the Johnson administration are keen to blame the EU: ...
Fatal Contact: With the arrival of captain James Cook in October 1769, the islands of what would become New Zealand ceased to be the preserve of Polynesian navigators and settlers and became a part of both the world’s map and the world’s history.THE MAORI NATIONALIST assault upon the historical meaning ...
Another round of tactical talks about forming a Government of National Unity have come to nothing with the Liberal Democrats still refusing countenance putting Jeremy Corbyn into Downing Street:Opposition talks on Monday made little headway over when to try and vote down Boris Johnson's government and who might succeed him as ...
by Nick Rogers The debate around the meaning of sex and gender made an appearance at this year’s British Labour Party conference in Brighton. Women’s Place UK – an organisation that questions the demand that biological males who self-identify as woman should have access to women’s spaces, to all-women shortlists, ...
Yesterday I went down to Wellington to participate in the Extinction Rebellion protest. Its part of the latest global wave of XR actions, with actions happening all over the world. Some of those protests are massively disruptive: in Canada, XR is blocking major bridges, stopping people from getting to work. ...
The Workshop is a charitable trust for public good. The Workshop undertake research to find ways of communicating that will build support for the solutions that work to solve complex social and environmental problems. See their Report on Talking about Poverty and Welfare Reform below. ...
What is language? We generally assume that it a facility unique to humans, allowing us to share what’s in and on our minds. We can tell of our plans, our past exploits, our knowledge. It also allows us to lie. And yet there are vast numbers of people we can’t ...
Being and Being Bought (Spinifex Press, 2013) by Kajsa Ekis Ekman A synopsis and commentary of Chapters 1-2 by Daphna Whitmore Ekman, a Swedish journalist and critic, brings together a Marxist and feminist analysis of prostitution and surrogacy in this groundbreaking book She opens the discussion with a definition of ...
I make no claims to having much legal knowledge, so I defer to those trained in this area.I am very much enjoying this twitter stream from m'learned friend in Edinburgh, deciphering the legal arguments around the Scottish court challenge to Boris Johnson, based on the charmingly obscure principle of Nobile ...
Ivory Folly? The University of Auckland’s Vice-Chancellor, Professor Stuart McCutcheon, upheld the right of the radical nationalist group, Action Zealandia to exercise their freedom of speech – not matter how distasteful that speech might be. A wiser community of students and scholars would have nodded their agreement and moved on. ...
If you are not convinced terrorist Organisation ‘Extinction Rebellion’ is very, very dangerous – watch this video at one of their recent meetings. Not only is this obviously mentally ill Woman begging the other terrorists to promote killing and “eating” babies and children, if you watch carefully other members nod ...
The Ombudsman has been surveying people about their knowledge of the OIA and the right to information. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem that widespread:The Chief Ombudsman says too many New Zealanders were in the dark over their right to access official information. Peter Boshier said an independent survey released yesterday on ...
In the wake of last Friday's climate strike, Peter McKenzie had an article in The Spinoff about protest strategies. The school strike movement is "polite" and cooperates with those in power because that's its kaupapa - its led by schoolkids who understandably don't want to risk arrest. But there's more ...
So, the latest ruminations on the gnews from Westminster (Again, sorry; I'll stop making that pun right now). This follows on from, and likely repeats bits of, my last post, on the suggestion that a Government of National Unity (GNU) should be set up and then oversee a referendum before ...
New Zealand likes to think of itself as not a racist country (despite being founded on the racist dispossession and subjugation of Maori). But for years, we've had a racist refugee policy, which basicly excludes refugees from Africa and the Middle East unless they already have relatives here. Now, the ...
Several people have asked me whether a particular repeat litigant could be declared a vexatious litigant, in light of their recent decision to appeal an adverse High Court ruling. My nascent tweet thread was getting ridiculously long, so it became this blog post instead.The short answer is: no. The particular ...
Appealing To The Past: Action Zealandia, like so many of the organisations springing up on the far-Right, across what they call the “Anglosphere”, is born out of the profound confusion over what a man is supposed to be in the twenty-first century and, more importantly, what he is supposed to do.THE STATUE OF ...
The attempts of anti-democratic transactivists to (often violently) disrupt women’s rights organising is largely ignored by those sections of the left most prone to misogyny and authoritarianism in New Zealand. In Britain, however, scores of trade union and left activists added their names to a letter in July, defending ...
The Justice Committee has reported back on the Criminal Cases Review Commission Bill. The Bill would establish an independent, quasi-judicial body to investigate and review potential miscarriages of justice, and refer them back to the Court of appeal if required. It would be a vital backstop to our judiciary, help ...
Foreign Minister Winston Peters is predicting a hard Brexit for the United Kingdom, as he believes British Prime Minister Boris Johnson won’t be able to negotiate terms before the October 30 deadline. The Minister, who was one of the first to publicly come out and predict British voters would leave ...
Speaking at the Council of Trade Unions' (CTU) biennial conference, New Zealand First leader Winston Peters told unionists that any future attacks on the Government won't work. "Now, we are being attacked by the union movement in this country. You can have your views but I'm here to say standing ...
We want every New Zealander to be happy, safe, and healthy. To do this, we need to support strong, safe communities, and a robust and efficient health system. ...
Defence Minister Ron Mark has used his powers to overrule a noise complaint ruling against Whenuapai airbase on the grounds of "national security". The Environment Court last month released a ruling in favour of a private developer, declaring the Auckland airbase had to comply with noise restrictions when it performs ...
New Zealand First leader Winston Peters has opened fire against "unreconstructed morons" after NZ First MP Shane Jones was photographed on holiday holding an AR-15 rifle. Mr Peters is defending Mr Jones, telling Magic Talk host Peter Williams that his MP was just having fun "like most people do". "The ...
New Zealand First Deputy Leader and Under-Secretary for Regional Economic Development Fletcher Tabuteau was in attendance during the morning blessing of the Rotorua Lakefront development project. Around 60 people gathered on the shores of Lake Rotorua, including city mayor Steve Chadwick and deputy Dave Donaldson. The Lakefront development is a ...
Forestry Minister Shane Jones is considering reining in on conversions of farmland to forestry, and also issued a warning to foreign-owned forestry companies that make up nearly 75 per cent of the industry. He said too many foreign companies had not provided enough access for domestic processors to get timber. ...
Speaking to Radio NZ, New Zealand First leader Winston Peters said the tightening of the parental category visa is a direct result of the Party’s coalition negotiations with the Labour Party. He said the new changes switch the financial onus from the parent moving to New Zealand to the child ...
The Coalition Government is set to cut red tape in the building and construction sector in an effort to allow more houses to be built, including prefabricated houses. The changes will enable the mass factory production of "high quality" buildings, slash the likely number of building inspections for factory produced ...
Since coming into Government, we’ve worked hard to tackle homelessness and make sure everyone has a warm, dry home. And today, on World Homeless Day, we want to report back and update you on our progress so far. ...
New Zealand First leader Winston Peters has hit back at National Party leader Simon Bridges who criticized the Coalition Government’s approach to crime, and said that the latter isn't credible in his attack on the Government over gang recruitment. "We've got as massive drug problem in this country. It is ...
New Zealand Mānuka honey exporters have welcomed an initiative by the Coalition Government to help secure the term “mānuka honey” to be used exclusively by Kiwi exporters, ensuring that our multimillion-dollar industry is protected. Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones had recently announced that a Provincial Growth Funding of $5.7 ...
Political commentator Mike Hosking has labelled New Zealand First leader Winston Peters as “the voice of reason in a government soft on drugs”, for the Party’s stance on drug testing at music festivals. “If common sense is worth a vote, Winston Peters is quids in,” Mr Hosking said. The Labour ...
Parliamentary Under-Secretary for Regional Economic Development Fletcher Tabuteau has announced Provincial Growth Funding to ensure work opportunities in Turangi and Whanganui, through its skills and employment programme, Te Ara Mahi. A fund of $500,000 will go to Rafting NZ in Turangi for a 16-week river guide training course to train ...
Treasury has shown that the Coalition Government has a $7.5 billion surplus, which is $4 billion higher than what was expected in the 2019 Budget unveiled last May. It is also $2 billion higher than the actual surplus unveiled this time last year, and at a size that has not ...
Official Information Act figures released to NZME show there were 350 assaults on officers in the year to the end of June, 79 more than the year before. The increase in attacks have sparked calls for more legal protection for first responders to be enacted. The assaults included officers being ...
“Nobody wants to see babies uplifted”, this was the pronouncement of Minister for Children Hon. Tracey Martin as her department, Oranga Tamariki, faces multiple inquiries into the number of babies being taken from their families. “But a baby can die with a single punch, “the Minister continued. “So sometimes, Oranga ...
We're making progress on tackling the long-term challenges: from homelessness, to strengthening border security, to bringing banking back New Zealand's small towns. ...
Associate Transport Minister Shane Jones has backed the ambitious plan to move Auckland’s port to Northport, at Whangarei harbour, which he says will be the “King Kong of infrastructure”. The plan is part of the recommendations of a six-person independent working group, which has recommended the Ports of Auckland be ...
A six-member independent working group selected the option of moving Auckland’s port to Northport, in Whangarei, ahead of other options. In what could be New Zealand’s most ambitious infrastructure project yet, a major expansion of the Marsden Point port could happen within 15 years. The project, officially called the “Upper ...
The final Electricity Price Review recommended prohibiting prompt payment discounts but allowing “reasonable” late fees. The findings of this review was welcomed by the Coalition Government, but they hope companies will follow through with its recommendations without regulations needed to be passed. Meridian Energy had already stopped prompt payment discounts, ...
Fletcher Tabuteau, Parliamentary Under-Secretary for Regional Economic Development The Provincial Growth Fund (PGF)through its skills and employment programme, Te Ara Mahi,will invest nearly $600,000 to ensure work opportunities for locals in Turangia and Whanganui, Parliamentary Under Secretary for Regional Economic Development Fletcher Tabuteau announced today. “I’m pleased to announce the PGF ...
An export-led economy is one of New Zealand First’s key principles, and our commitment to achieving this is shown by the continuing skyrocketing demand for our beef and sheep meat exports. Beef + Lamb New Zealand's New Season Outlook 2019-20 report forecasts beef, lamb and mutton prices to lift from ...
Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones announced today in Gisborne an investment of $17.27m into bringing “world-leading” food-growing technology and the creation of more than 100 new jobs in the East Coast city. The funding comes from the Provincial Growth Fund, and included a $15 million loan to LeaderBrand, a ...
Hon Shane Jones, Minister for Regional Economic Development More than 100 people in Tairāwhiti’s Tolaga Bay will benefit from two employment initiatives supported by the Provincial Growth Fund, Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones and Employment Minister Willie Jackson announced today. “Tolaga Bay is an incredibly tight-knit community, but one in ...
Hon Shane Jones, Minister for Regional Economic Development The Provincial Growth Fund (PGF) is supporting Gisborne business Leaderbrand to produce salad vegetables year round and create more jobs in the Tairāwhiti region, Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones announced today. “Our support for Leaderbrand will help them build large greenhouses ...
“Nobody wants to see babies uplifted”, this was the pronouncement of Minister for Children Hon. Tracey Martin as her department, Oranga Tamariki, faces multiple inquiries into the number of babies being taken from their families. “But a baby can die with a single punch, “the Minister continued. “So sometimes, Oranga ...
Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones has praised the promise by New Zealand’s biggest banks not to close any provincial branches while the Coalition Government trials regional banking hubs across the country. The Minister said the announce was the “first sign of hope for regional communities”, many of which have ...
Rt Hon Winston Peters, New Zealand First Leader New Zealand First is proud to have delivered an upgrade of the SuperGold Card website and a new smartphone app, which will help unlock the full benefits of the SuperGold Card for 750,000 New Zealand seniors.Party Leader Rt Hon Winston Peters, ...
Delivering a key election campaign promise, New Zealand First is proud to have accomplished a long overdue upgrade of the SuperGold Card today. At an event in Auckland, New Zealand First leader Winston Peters joined Minister for Seniors Hon. Tracey Martin in unveiling the new website and smartphone app which ...
Another busy week, from speaking with world leaders on the world stage about climate change, to equipping our school leavers with everything they need to get ahead in life. ...
The future for New Zealand’s threatened indigenous freshwater fish looks brighter with the passing of the Conservation (Indigenous Freshwater Fish) Amendment Bill in Parliament today said Minister of Conservation, Eugenie Sage. “Until now, our freshwater fish legislation has been 20 years out of date. We have lacked effective tools to ...
At 1.30pm tomorrow, hundreds of thousands of Kiwis will join about 65 million people around the globe in ShakeOut, the world’s biggest earthquake drill. The annual drill is to remind people of the right action to take during an earthquake which is to Drop, Cover, Hold, and to practise their ...
Kiwis are benefiting from higher wage growth and low inflation under the Coalition Government. Stats NZ data out today shows the rise in the cost of living remains low, as annual Consumers Price Index (CPI) inflation fell to 1.5% in September from 1.7% in June. “The low inflation comes as ...
New Zealand’s economic strength and resilience has been recognised in a major update on the state of the global economy. The IMF’s latest World Economic Outlook released overnight shows a reduced global growth forecast over the next two years as issues like the US-China trade war and Brexit take hold. ...
Justice Minister Andrew Little has today introduced a new Bill to prevent terrorism and support the de-radicalisation of New Zealanders returning from overseas. The Terrorism Suppression (Control Orders) Bill gives the New Zealand Police the ability to apply to the High Court to impose control orders on New Zealanders who ...
A Bill that proposes targeted changes to simplify the processes for Māori land owners when engaging with the Māori Land Court has had its First Reading today. “The approach taken by the Government is to ensure that the protection of Māori land remains a priority as we seek to improve ...
Let me first thank all the new unionists and members in the room. There is nothing more important to improving people’s working lives than people making the decision to care, to get on board and help, to take up the reins and get involved. Congratulations to you. You bring the ...
Minister of Defence Ron Mark has signed a certificate exempting the activity of engine testing at Whenuapai Airbase from the Resource Management Act 1991. The Act gives the Minister of Defence the power to exempt activities for the purposes of national security. The certificate will mean the recent Environment Court ...
Finance Minister Grant Robertson has announced New Zealand will join the Coalition of Finance Ministers for Climate Action while attending APEC meetings in Chile. The objective of the 39 member Coalition is to share information and promote action to tackle climate change. It was formed in April this year, in ...
Ladies and gentlemen, NZCTU President Richard Wagstaff, members of respective unions – thank you for the invitation to speak to you today. This might be preaching to the choir, but the importance of trade unions in New Zealand’s historical arch is difficult to understate. And it is my belief that ...
"Let’s start by acknowledging that it has been a huge year. " Police Association Annual Conference James Cook Grand Chancellor Hotel Wellington Nau mai, haere mai. Tēnā koutou, tēnā koutou, ka nui te mihi, ki a koutou katoa. President of the Police Association, Chris Cahill; Members of the Association and ...
Minister of Foreign Affairs Winston Peters and Minister of Defence Ron Mark have announced the New Zealand Government’s decision to again deploy a Royal New Zealand Air Force P-3K2 (P-3) maritime patrol aircraft to support the implementation of United Nations Security Council (UNSC) resolutions imposing sanctions against North Korea. New ...
Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters says New Zealand continues to have serious concerns for peace and stability in north-east Syria. “Recent reports that hundreds of ISIS-affiliated families have fled from a camp are deeply concerning from a humanitarian and security perspective”, Mr Peters says. “While we acknowledge Turkey’s domestic security ...
Biosecurity Minister Damien O’Connor is warning travelling Kiwis to be vigilant as the high-season for the crop-eating brown marmorated stink bug (BMSB) is under way. “We’re on high alert to stop BMSB arriving in NZ. The high season runs until April 30 and we’ve strengthened our measures to stop stink ...
The Government is moving swiftly to change the law to improve the welfare and pastoral care of students living in university halls of residence and other tertiary hostels. Cabinet has agreed to several changes, including creating a new mandatory Code of Practice that sets out the duty of pastoral care ...
The Minister for Conservation Eugenie Sage has launched a new comprehensive trapping guide for community trappers to help them protect our native birds, plants and other wildlife, at Zealandia in Wellington today. ‘A practical guide to trapping’, has been developed by the Department of Conservation (DOC), and was launched during ...
Associate Health Minister Julie Anne Genter welcomes PHARMAC’s move to improve access to long-acting reversible contraception (LARCs). PHARMAC has today announced it will fund the full cost of Mirena and Jaydess for anyone seeking long term contraception, lifting previous restrictions on access to Mirena. “I welcome women having greater choices ...
The Government has approved the next stage of a major redevelopment of Taranaki Base Hospital, which will deliver new and improved facilities for patients. Health Minister Dr David Clark has announced details of a $300 million dollar project to build a new East Wing at the New Plymouth hospital. It ...
Extra funding will allow Rural Support Trusts to help farming families, says Minister for Rural Communities and Agriculture Damien O’Connor. “I know that rural families are worried about some of the challenges facing them, including the ongoing uncertainty created by the Mycoplasma bovis outbreak. “Those concerns sit alongside ongoing worries ...
Thank you for the opportunity to be here to present certificates to the 16 graduates who have completed a beekeeping course delivered by the Howard League. Let us start by acknowledging Auckland Prison’s Deputy Prison Director Tom Sherlock, and Acting Assistant Regional Commissioner of Corrections Northern Region Scott Walker - ...
Finance Minister Grant Robertson leaves this weekend to attend the APEC Finance Ministers meeting in Santiago, Chile. Discussions between APEC Finance Ministers at the meeting will include the effects of the current global economic uncertainty, risks for APEC economies and sustainable development of the region. While at APEC Grant Robertson ...
The Minister for Pacific Peoples Aupito William Sio says for Pacific people, language can be a source of strength. It can help ground us and give us confidence. When we speak them, our languages provide us with an immediate and intimate access to our identity and our story - and ...
The Coalition Government has announced an action plan to improve the wellbeing of disabled New Zealanders by addressing inequalities in play, active recreation and sport. The initiative includes training to develop a workforce that understands the needs of children and young people with a range of impairments, advocacy for fit ...
The construction sector is being freed up to allow more homes to be built more quickly as the Government cuts through some of the red tape of the Building Act. “Every New Zealander deserves a warm, dry, safe home and old inefficiencies in the Building Act make building slow and ...
Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has welcomed further details on the Prince of Wales and Duchess of Cornwall’s visit to New Zealand next month. Their Royal Highnesses will visit New Zealand from 17-23 November – their third joint visit to New Zealand and first in four years. They arrive in Auckland ...
Minister of State for Trade and Export Growth and Minister of Agriculture, Damien O’Connor, heads to Thailand today to attend the final Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership (RCEP) Ministerial meeting, as negotiations enter their final stages. “The RCEP Agreement would anchor New Zealand in a regional agreement that covers 16 countries, ...
Pacific young people living in the Hawke’s Bay, Southland and Otago regions will have access to support services that have proved successful in helping young people find new earning and learning opportunities. “Tupu Aotearoa is about changing Pacific young peoples’ lives. Our young people are talented, they are smart, they ...
Introduction As the Minister for ACC I thank you all for the work that you do supporting New Zealanders in their literally most vulnerable moments. From those who hold people’s lives in their hands, to the people who research technique, technology and trends, your work is highly valued. A special ...
Notes prepared for speeches in Christchurch – Wednesday 9 October 2019 Today’s topic, “trends and opportunities for the New Zealand economy,” is certainly one getting a great deal of commentary at the moment. Looking across the media landscape lately you’ll notice we aren’t the only ones having this discussion. There ...
Minister of Health Dr David Clark and Associate Minister of Health Peeni Henare say this year’s World Mental Health Day theme is a reminder of why the Government’s work on mental health is so important. “This year the World Federation for Mental Health has made suicide prevention the main theme ...
Associate Arts, Culture and Heritage Minister Carmel Sepuloni will represent the government at Australia’s Meeting of Cultural Ministers in Adelaide this week. “This year’s meeting is special because New Zealand is expected to become an International Member of the Meeting of Cultural Ministers at this Australian forum,” Carmel Sepuloni said. “The meeting is an opportunity to ...
The Greater Christchurch Claims Resolution Service has resolved 608 insurance and EQC claims in its first year in operation, Minister Megan Woods has announced. The government service, which celebrates its first birthday today, provides a one stop shop to help Cantabrians still battling to get their homes repaired or rebuilt ...
Today’s topic, “trends and opportunities for the New Zealand economy,” is certainly one getting a great deal of commentary at the moment. Looking across the media landscape lately you’ll notice we aren’t the only ones having this discussion. There has been an increasing amount of attention paid to the outlook ...
The Government is acting swiftly to strengthen NZTA’s regulatory role following a review into the Transport Agency, and Ministry of Transport’s performance as its monitor, Transport Minister Phil Twyford said today. An independent review by Martin Jenkins has found NZTA failed to properly regulate the transport sector under the previous ...
The Netherlands and New Zealand have a long-standing and close relationship based on many shared interests and values. We value the rule of law, our democracies, and multilateralism. And we value our environment – at home and globally. Right now there are major global challenges in all of these areas – ...
The Government is putting right a decade’s worth of underpayment to nurses, doctors and other health workers, says Health Minister Dr David Clark. Initial sampling of District Health Boards payroll records has found that around $550-$650 million is owed to DHB staff to comply with the Holidays Act. It’s expected ...
A strong surplus and low debt show the economy is performing well, and means the Government is in a good position to meet the challenges of global economic uncertainty. “The surplus and low levels of debt show the economy is in good shape. This allows the Government to spend more ...
New applications from mining company OceanaGold to purchase land in Waihi for new tailings ponds associated with its gold mines have been approved. Minister of Finance Grant Robertson and Associate Minister of Finance David Parker considered the applications under the Overseas Investment Act. Earlier this year, applications from OceanaGold to ...
New Zealanders in Tūranganui-a-Kiwa / Poverty Bay will witness Māori, Pākehā and Pacific voyaging traditions come together today as the Tuia 250 Voyage flotilla assembles for the first time, Māori Crown Relations: Te Arawhiti Minister Kelvin Davis says. “Tuia 250 is a national commemoration and an opportunity for honest conversations ...
Minister for Trade and Export Growth David Parker leaves tomorrow for Dubai, London and Berlin for a series of meetings to advance New Zealand’s trade interests. In Dubai he will visit New Zealand’s Pavilion at Expo 2020 where construction is underway. There he will meet Minister of State for International Cooperation, Her ...
Alex Casey talks to Henessey Griffiths, a 22 year-old Dunedin student who just finished her dissertation about one of Youtube’s most controversial stars. Content warning: this article contains mention of suicide, please take careYesterday afternoon in Dunedin, honours student Henessey Griffiths sent a tweet that was a year (or rather, five ...
The Transport Minister has released almost all of the letters he's received from Green MPs, but still refuses to release the letter from Julie Anne Genter that is now at the centre of an Ombudsman complaint. ...
Court documents have confirmed Winston Peters was sent a letter by officials four years into his seven-year overpayment of national superannuation asking him to check details he had supplied, including that he was 'single'. ...
Olympic sailors Blair Tuke and Peter Burling are throwing their weight behind a campaign encouraging New Zealander consumers and businesses to reduce their plastic pollution. ...
National Party leader Simon Bridges says his MP Agnes Loheni let him know she'd be contesting the candidacy for Botany, adding it's a "free world". ...
Think you’ve got your KiwiSaver sorted? Try Kōura’s ‘robo-advice’ questionnaire and you might be surprised.If a person who looks like they know about finance asks you whether your appetite for risk is low, medium or high, what do you say? The problem is most Kiwis don’t understand what the question ...
The Social Services and Community Committee is seeking submissions on the Rates Rebate (Statutory Declarations) Amendment Bill. This bill aims to improve the process of applying for rates rebates. It proposes: • Removing the requirement to make a statutory ...
The Māori Affairs Committee is calling for submissions on the Te Ture Whenua Maori (Succession, Dispute Resolution, and Related Matters) Amendment Bill. ...
The New Zealand Police have been used as a political pawn which is stretching their resources and seriously affecting their ability to address the real causes of crime, such as gang related supply of illicit drugs. ...
Alex Casey yarns to Karen O’Leary, early childhood teacher by day and star of Wellington Paranormal and What We Do in The Shadows by night. Two of the funniest moments in New Zealand television last year were entirely fence-based. First up there was Agni on The Block NZ, who packed a ...
NZ Police wish to clarify that cartridges filled with steel or lead shot are not prohibited. They may still be used under the Arms (Prohibited Ammunition) Order 2019 as shotgun cartridges are specifically excluded from the prohibition order. ...
NZ Police wish to clarify that cartridges filled with steel or lead shot are not prohibited. They may still be used under the Arms (Prohibited Ammunition) Order 2019 as shotgun cartridges are specifically excluded from the prohibition order. ...
Josie Adams is in tonight’s episode of Have You Been Paying Attention. Specifically, she is in the audience.When you watch Have You Been Paying Attention? tonight, please consider the bladders of audience members watching it live. They offer beverages, but my God it’s a dangerous offer. As I found out ...
Despite comments from Auckland City Council CCOs Board Chairs re pay and performance bonuses for top managers—Herald Newspaper Tuesday Oct 15th--there is very little evidence that says high pay and bonuses improve the performance of a company. Most ...
By Michael Andrew Pacific diplomats, academics and youth leaders will gather in Auckland this week to discuss security, economic development and other pressing issues shaping the region’s future. Pacific Futures will be held on October 18 and will feature speakers from across the region, including Samoa’s Deputy Prime Minister ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Susan Hutchinson, PhD Candidate, Australian National University It has been more than two years since “clearance operations” by Myanmar’s security forces, the Tatmadaw, forced more than 700,000 Rohingya across the border to neighbouring Bangladesh. During this time, the UN Security Council has ...
Fast food company Restaurant Brands has made a smaller half year profit largely because of accounting changes as it prepares to invest heavily in the launch of Taco Bell in New Zealand. ...
Pacific Media Centre Newsdesk Papua New Guinea police have issued a warrant for the arrest of former Prime Minister Peter O’Neill. According to EMTV News, the Waigana district court issued the warrant which was based on evidence previously compiled by police investigators. Acting Police Commissioner David Manning said he ...
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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=10781228
Journalism at its finest…and here’s me thinking Pepsi is the choice of a new generation, glad that critical debate been settled.
Does this mean Coke is the real thing for a lefty?
Huh? The the article says people who sign up to a marital cheater website are National voters, own a PC, drink coke, eat meat, have a tattoo, smoke and be a Christian. Nothing about pepsi.
Right you are Carol. I did not want to waste any bit of my life reading the article but have now done so and it looks like Pepsi is the true drink of leftys …
What a pity! I love vanilla Coke…
Why is Mr Sheaer supporting Michael Fay? Shark jumping to be Labours leisure pursuit of choice?
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/6315003/Crunch-time-in-Crafar-farms-saga
Labour leader David Shearer, who visited one of the Crafar farms yesterday, said he supported the Fay-led bid, which included iwi interests.
“My feeling is that New Zealanders should be able to buy their own land and we should at least give them the first option to be able to buy it,” Mr Shearer said.
My thoughts exactly.
Michael Fay has done more damage to this country than any other business man…EVER. We should be rejecting the Chinese bid outright but Fay…really.
Does anyone think he is doing this for the love of his country. Like fuck he is.
even Farrar doesn’t support Fay
http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2012/01/25/the-grifter/#comments
I’m obviously missing something but perhaps someone who is in touch with labour could explain this endorsement
Fay has a low ball offer cynically exploiting the sentiment and politics to try and get it for a song, the waikato times pointed this out last year.
He’s paying shedloads to PR outfits to spin him as a saviour…tui moment.
Receivers are bound to get the highest price legally so what’s needed is strong and proactive political leadership…..uh oh.
New Zealanders have had two years to bid for the Crafer farms.
They only had to offer what the banks considered acceptable (actually below) to the loans that they gave the Crafer family, and the Chinese would no be at the party.
As for Michael Fay he is only looking to screw somebody, as he has done often in the past.
It seems to me that Labour has picked up from where it left off before it made a few desperate attempts to stench the blood of its base, maybe six months before the general election, and is back on the same political, tactical moral and public-relations trajectory, with the same players calling the shots, and the same heads in the sand, and just a new face for the brand.
And the consequences will continue.
Thursday 26 January 2012
Is NewstalkZB about to radically change its nature?
Child abuse—that perennial talkback favourite. It’s always fascinating (and horrifying) to listen to radio hosts like Larry Williams, Mike Hosking, Leighton Smith and Susan Wood ranting and railing against the Labour/Green “nanny state” that finally (in 2009) abolished parents’ immunity from prosecution for assaulting their own children, and in the next breath condemn the parents who take smacking (which these radio hosts support) a tad too far and end up killing their children.
It might have surprised some people, then, to hear this morning, just after 7:30 a.m., one of these fanatical anti-nanny staters and pro-kiddy whackers, Susan Wood, suggesting that the state should indeed do something about child abuse.
Speaking very slowly and with the deepest voice she could manage, in order to emphasize just how serious she is, Wood put the following question to the Hon. Paula Bennett: “Do you think it’s time for the state to intervene more proactively?”
Does this signal a radical change of policy at NewstalkZB? Will the hosts of this station now cease to defend the “right” of parents to hit their children?
Who knows, but perhaps the hosts of this station will reverse some other of their long-established policy positions and speak out against knife killing, assaulting of women, Chinese government goons roughing up New Zealand MPs in the grounds of parliament, the mass killing of civilians and the destruction of hospitals, power stations and schools.
Is NewstalkZB about to radically change its nature?
Not bloody likely! There’s a big difference between 2008 (the smackng law passed 2008) and 2012. What passed for ‘nanny statism’ under Labour becomes acceptable practise under National.
I’m waiting for the light bulb legislation now – under a pseudonym name of course.
Some will tell you that the woes of the Keydom result from simple human failings like greed, a lack of understanding or compassion.
But our rulers know better. They know that the fault does not lie with them, after all to rule is a reflection of the grace of God and confirmation of his favour.
There is a plague upon our land.
A plague of Witches.
They will be identified by their weakness.
Those with little money or little power, those whose voices are easily silenced, those whose wretched human failings set them apart from the virtue and nobility of the people – they are the cancer that eats away at our prosperity.
They must be found and punished, all of them. It may take many years, for as everyone knows Witches breed like rats, and if one touches you it is likely that you too may be infected.
They may resist, but do not be discouraged, for both resistance and assisted confession are clear indicators of guilt.
Light the fires, the promised land awaits.
Update: Paula Bennett confirms that innocent people may be burnt and asks NZ:
It is your choice: burn the innocent, or let the guilty go free.
Now i am old fashioned and thought that law and process and morality had something to do with it.
Lets not take any chances eh?
Bung linkey, try:
National Party Strategy instruction video’/a><
I made a decision last year to never again listen to “newstalk”ZB ever again. Everybody has their own barrow to push but for a radio station to ram their outdated rwnj agenda down the throats of listeners is a disgrace. Late in (Leighten) the line for brain allocation Smith and Larry Williams loves his neighbour Key make me wanna chunder or do a Laws shootout gig. And in between the propaganda their high amount of adverts makes the name ad-talk ZB seem more appropriate.
Farrar wouldn’t, he needs to spout his paymasters rhetoric.
Great to see that Aotea Square in Auckland has finally been returned to the 100%.
As interesting bug caused by a comment that made the page kind of hard to see (ie black). Fixed both the immediate cause in a comment and prevented it from happening in the future.
Ta.
Yeah… I think it might have been my comment. Wondered if there was some political interference going on. 🙂
Hey folks, as a random aside – have you noticed how incredibly bored, disinterested and contemptuous as ever JK looks, now that he’s been forced away from his holiday in his mansion in Hawaii or wherever he was? It was disturbing to see his return on TV3 news, mind you the sight of him always disturbs me any way, but he’s not even bothering trying to mask that he couldn’t care less about the crafar deal, chch and anything else of critical importance to NZ. It’s like he’s run out of “smile n wave juice” His face just screams “oh, god, theres all this lot to deal with again, this just isn’t what I signed up for”
Yes Rosie I noticed his “don’t wanna be here” demeanor as well.
Never mind he’s off to Australia for another well earned break to watch the tennis shortly.
tea tapes been leaked. http://soundcloud.com/goldenturkey/2johns2cups..
Do you have to log in to hear that? Or has it been removed?
Ditto – only read about it here http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10781324 and now its gone?
You shouldn’t need to sign in to hear it, the embed Soundcloud code is still working fine on The Jackal… although the file isn’t seeding properly yet.
Corrected URL
2 Johns 2 Cups – tea tapes leaked
My hearing is not sharp enough. Hope someone transcribes it?
Ask Winston – he has a transcribed copy.
Damn my poor hearing! Can’t hear what they are saying due to all the background noise. What was the gist of the talk?
TV3 get a favourable mention by JK: “…they’ve been very good working for us…”.
TV3’s also “pretty solid”. That’s Key’s code for thick, gullible and will work for wine.
I think the comment about TV3 is about the TV3 polls. It comes after talking about the latest Roy Morgan poll.
It follows on from the comment about how well TV3 are working for National, Carol. It’s either the next sentence or part of the same sentence. He’s claiming ownership of Garner and Gower. Amazing what results a cheap loan to Mediaworks will bring you in terms of fawning coverage. Very, very problematic for the two reporters.
TVOR, as I hear it, they mention the Roy Morgan poll, then the TV3’s is working for them, has been solid, and then mentions the NZ Herald poll.
You might be right, I’ll have another listen.
$44 million dollars worth
No surprises there then! 😀
not just your hearing, its pretty hard to figure out what they are saying, but whatever it is it sounds like a very dull conversation, they say something like ‘ooh, that labour party are so nasty, we would never do anything nasty like them” , but yeah hopefully someone transcribes it.
Is it technically possible to remove the back-ground noise? I could just hear names being mentioned. I’m sure I heard JK claim something to the effect… Nah, he won’t make it. Got about 4 last time. He’ll get 3 this time. Winston Peters?
Downloaded and listened to it on headphones. A lot of the first half is about polls, saying Labour’s negative campaigning doesn’t work, and Key being very smug about how he apporaches the media – positive upbeat approach etc. Then he and Banks rehearse what they are going to say to the media after their tea.
Then they mention some woman MP as being pretty good and Banks talks about how he is approaching his campaign – but can’t hear a lot of the details.
So that’s it? Where is the “scandal” the media (and of course many on this site) hinted at? And more why did John Key (or his advisers) handle it so stupidly?
Oh well, puts that strange footnote to bed.
Key fed the prospect of scandal via his reaction, people on this site and others were reacting to his fear of it’s release.
Must have been concerned about having to change his phone number..
My theory is they handled it the way they did because it put the whole focus of the couple of weeks before the election on the tapes rather than on anything else Labour could’ve wanted.
Obviously that plan worked but whether it actually helped the result is debatable.
It got Winston into parliament. So I’d say that backfired pretty badly on them.
I attribute Labour’s poll slump to their stupid decision to announce that they would extend WFF to beneficiaries and the superannuation changes also weren’t well-received.
Yeah that sounds about right – the working for families thing cracks me up as I’m willing to bet had Labour announced that they were giving additional money to beneficiaries who have children rather than framing it as an extension of working for families it would have gone down a lot better.
Yes, I certainly think it would have been received a lot better.
Key: Most photographed cup of tea in the world
Banks: This is a very good media contingent
K: Yeah, it’s huge eh
B: I got to tell you
K: Wherever I go though there’s really big numbers, normally ???
B: I mean ah, there’s 30 here today, that is very very good
B: …the labour party has ah given up on Epsom.
K: oh yeah
B: he’s a horrible little fella that candidate
B/K: nasty, nasty
K: but yet they all are??? they’re a very nasty party in a lot of ways
B: well, you know, they’re putting ah, they’ve been putting things in letter boxes about me, shocking socking stuff
K: yes yes, it’s nasty. that’s what they do, they play the person the whole time. we never do that stuff.
It goes on for a little bit after that but it’s hard to hear.
They talk about Winston, Key thinks he won’t get higher than 3%. Didn’t hear anything about supporters dying off, though.
Right towards the end (around 6 minutes) they are apparently talking about ACT leadership and suggest whats-her-name would make a good leader, give a female perspective/influence, and refer to “that other guy” and an odd-fellow, to which Key agrees. He says something about “when they called me up in London”, I guess talking about when he was first parachuted into the party.
Key said that NZ First’s “constituents (constituency’s?) dying off” or words to that effect. And up until the teapot tape, it was!
I think that phone call relates to the Don brash comments. It comes after Key agrees with him being an odd fellow & says “we’ve been down that road, that is why when they called me in the UK…”
Can everyone please put the start time by the snippet of conversation that they have heard thanks.
If a couple of dozen people transcribe 20 seconds each, we’ll have it finished.
I only transcribed the interesting bits. The rest of it was boring or hard to hear.
Yes , then after we have done all that transcribing and debating the phonetics and intent of each statement we can back mask it so we can hear the true hidden message about JK wanting to murder all infants in their sleep, or something similar.
From what I can hear sounds boring as hell.
Have we been conned ?
Ah… so David Parker was one of the names.
B: he’s a horrible little fella that candidate
B/K: nasty, nasty
K: but yet they all are??? they’re a very nasty party in a lot of ways.
I’m sure there is a medical name for their delusional habit of transferring their own nasty, deceitful behaviour on to the shoulders of their opponents!
Psychological projection
Indeed. How contradictory is it to criticise Labour for negative campaigning by smearing Labour as “the nasty party”? This was in reference to Goff calling Key a liar and to the letter drops about Banks in Epsom. Yet, Labour also had far more positive policy stuff.
B: well, you know, they’re putting ah, they’ve been putting things in letter boxes about me, shocking socking stuff.
My recollection of that incident is that it turned out to be an individual (possibly two) who had no known association with the Labour Party.
The brochures had quotes of things that Banks had been reported saying in the Herald. Truly shocking and underhand …
Is there anything there that would spell big trouble for the cameraman?
How likely will it be that damages can be awarded against the cameraman?
HEY
Someone has gone through and edited the tapes and cut out the backgropund noise. It is on youtube here.
Everything is much clearer and you get a real sense of the sorts of people Key and Banks are. Watch and be amazed …
A much clearer version of the tape via, http://soundcloud.com/goldenturkey/2johns2cups
In the ‘Today in Politics’ section of the Dom this morning there was a note about how John Key is watching the Primaries from Hawaii and how he thought Romney was going to win. So far, so usual puff piece on our totes amazing PM.
However, at the end of the piece it said something along the lines of “Unlike Mitt Romney, Mr. Key said he will not be making his tax returns public.”
Why not? Why shouldn’t he? Shouldn’t the public finally get proof of the ‘fact’ that he pays his entire PM salary to charity? Shouldn’t we get to see proof of how ‘revenue neutral’ the tax switch was to one of NZ’s richest men?
Not sure what I think about politicians having to release their tax returns – tend to be interested obviously but not sure they should have too.
Did want to point out though that him releasing his tax returns would not show how revenue neutral the tax switch was for him as you would not be able to see how much GST he has paid on anything other than expenses directly relating to his income (which would not be much probably just bank/accounting/legal fees).
Ah yes, good point there Chris.
Mitt Romney – one of the billionaire bankster cartel, higher up the food chain than Key actually.
I was working at the time of the election, and was stunned and horrified when a
20-something colleague said she’d voted National because “Key gives his parliamentary salary to charity”. I asked her for details, and of course she didn’t know anything. It confirmed me in my belief that pretty girls of 22 or so, are as dumb as toast. (After all, if you’re young and pretty, you don’t need to be clever, you’ll get (and keep) a job anyway, hey?)
Guys that age are also dumb. And smellier. 😉
Thanks AdrianK! let us know how you get on with the rest of the conversation. I’m not surprised by whats been said so far. and there was a lot of speculation about the “NZ first supporters dying off ” comment wasn’t there? If he really is referring to the elderly, he is such an evil bastard, but we know that anyway don’t we.
Sounds like one of those dialogues that reveals information damaging to Key that you’d only realise if you were in the loop. He was sure Winston wasn’t going to be back. So embarrasment for internal polling? We all know how egotisical they all are, but it seems a flimsy pretext for the massive overaction that followed. At best, it’s an indicator of his true personality and he’s done a better job at emphasising that than anyone else.
Other than that, does anyone want his mobile phone number?
So, the teapot tapes have been leaked on to youtube. Download a copy now.
Does badmouthing Labour and Winston count as the nastiness that Banks and Key say that ACT and National don’t engage in? Banks says he never plays the man… unless it’s Winston … or “the brown man climbing in your window…”.
Here is the link to the teapot tape: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KloJf11GvQg
Oooooer…that’s pretty shakey legal ground to publish that link. Mods ought to remove that.
I don’t think so. The law regarding the legality of the recording has not been established… besides, posting a link to highlight that somebody else may have broken the law is not publishing. I would argue that having the embed code is also not breaching the supposed law… I’m publishing the code, not the recording. The recording has already been published and is now common knowledge… even if they bother to remove the original uploaded recording, it will be republished again because that’s the nature of the internet.
Fair enough – not my ass on the line 😉
Just direct people to Kiwiblog, where DPF gives the name of the uploader.
If National’s official spokesman DPF thinks it’s OK to release the tape then who am I to argue?
That needs to be removed, Ev. It exposes The Standard to potential legal action. I’d hit the ‘request deletion’ button pronto, if I were you.
ps, Ev, a mate has just discovered the truther madness. I did my best to show him the obvious stupidity of the argument, but he insisted on ‘learning’ more, so I recomended your site as the best repository of ‘facts’ about 9/11. Hope you don’t mind me endorsing you!
Bit late TVOR but if you want to hear an edited and much clearer version then try this one.
Ho ho, not a million miles away from the real thing, as it turns out!
So sue me. I did not publish it someone else did and I linked to it just like others on the thread. If they are stupid enough to sue everybody who linked to it and downloaded it and spread it I hope they start at Kiwiblog because that is where I got the link from.
Otherwise your submission to the vindictiveness of our ruling elite looks pretty sad to me.
It wasn’t you being sued I was worried about, Ev, it was the Standard. The Tories would love to be able instruct the coppers to close this site down, so giving them an opportunity to do so seems foolish. However, I see there is now a post which gives the address, so the mods must be confident that there will be no legal problems from linking to it. I hope they are right, but that doesn’t make you (or the others) any less irresponsible or thoughtless for publishing it.
Close this site down? Another one would open within days, probably offshore too. Then what are they going to do?
TVOR,
The link had already been posted here and just about everywhere before I did. Jackal is very clear as I also stated I did not publish it here I linked to the person who had published it. I have no intention of jeopardising anybody’s blog. So fuck off with your yellow bellied whinging and kowtowing to the powers that be.
CV: it’s not just a question of the internet; there are real people associated with this site and real consequences if the Police were to decide that The Standard had ‘published’ the leak. They’ve already shown themselves to be actively willing to censor the media at John Key’s personal request, an action not seen here, since, oh, 1951.
I note Farrar immediately put up a ‘do not publish the address’ note on his site, and whatever his politics, the man is not stupid.
Ev: it is you who is yellow bellied, by recklessly putting somebody else’s site at risk. Feel free to set up camp on the moral high ground at your own place. You would always have the legal defence that your whole blog is satire and nothing you say should be taken seriously.
Scoop has an embedded version of the tape.
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL1201/S00136/teapot-tapes-uploaded.htm
That’s up to the trustees, moderators and admins of The Standard. I’m sure most of them are grownups who are capapble of making judgement calls about such things.
Dead right, McFlock, but I made my original comment at 1.16pm, well before any of the mods appeared to be aware of the release of the tape. I was urging caution for a genuine reason, but it is definitely their call once they are aware and they have made their position clear by putting up the address themselves.
Self censorship, they’re relying on it. Put it another way, if any of the Standard administrators ever get charged on this, they’re going to have one hell of a big defence fund.
It worked on the editors in the last week of the campaign.
That is why I linked to it, rather than posting it. Not much law on linking.
As it stands there is a hell of a lot of grey area between the requirements of an exemely slow ongoing police investigation and the requirements of public interest. I probably wouldn’t have released it, certainly won’t hold it in this country, and have no real issues with linking to public accessible copies.
Speaking of police investigations, they still haven’t bothered to look into my formal complaint concerning Owen Glenn trying to bribe people to vote Nact. Perhaps if the Police had given my complaint the attention it deserves, I might feel a bit more inclined to adhere to their requests.
Oh God you’re a nasty piece of work. It is you who is going for the moral high ground and your stupidity has no end. Last time I looked Iprent was very good at protecting the Standard and I have no doubt he would have banned me forever if he thought I jeopardised this blog.
So get of your high horse, grow some balls and pull your head in. LOL
[lprent: Yep, you’d be out of here if you caused the site problems, and I think that you only received a few warning bans long ago.
I might not agree with people but if I booted people for that then there wouldn’t be any posts apart from my words of wisdom. Even then it is a bit problematic as I tend to disagree with myself frequently. It is a operating requirement for any good programmer to always second guess themselves on everything because that is how you remove inaccurate presumptions.
People most commonly get booted from here for behaviour that attacks the site, authors, or effectively causes shutdowns in the comments. Most of those are pretty apparent. The next most common reason can roughly be defined as “boring the moderators”. Which is a direct derivative of attacking the site: bored moderators stop moderating which causes a shutting down the comments as moderators stop the really really boring flamewars that rapidly diminish the numbers of people reading comments. ]
Oh, noes! I pissed off a paranoid righty by suggesting they take care that they don’t damage somebody else’s property. However will I get over the shame?
Pot, meet kettle! AFAIK you’re the righty, my friend – being pro-abortion, pro-gay, anti-everything else, is not enough to make you left… 😀
If the police are going to have a go at anyone for revealing how to find the video, they will of course have to prosecute DPF, who was the first person to publish the name of the uploader to Youtube that I could find. That name is still there on Kiwiblog. If it disappears I have a screep cap of the Kiwiblog page that mentions the name of the uploader. So I guess the police will not be prosecuting anybody will they? Otherwise dozens of blogs can keep harping on this matter until the next election.
meh.
It’s something that the media should have done in the first place.
Thanks Lanthanide and others for providing us with the service of your ears. Still not bowled over by whats been said, on the surface of it. I don’t get why they (jb, Jk, and Nat) went all uppity about it, called the police and started crying and going all po faced. So far, as much as we know theres nothing there that is scandalous (unfortunately) or defames anyone. Labour would know they’re not liked, they get it every day that parliment is in session. To my mind JK’s accusation towards Labour that they organised that guy to attempt to get over the railing at the public gallery in parliament last year was far worse, and then the throat cutting gesture. What a dick. I did love the lolnats take on that though.
Keep looking everybody, there’s something in there to be found. Key is apologising apparently…
Key’s apology
Is it possible that Key is apologising for something that has been deleted from the tape and he doesn’t know it??
No, I think the comments about odler constituents dying off is there. The only other possibly damaging thing at the time of the elcction was the lack of faith in Brash and the promotion of Isaacs.
Although key’s smearing of Labour as “the nasty party” is…. nasty, given he’s referring to Goff calling Key a Liar, and some appparently pretty tame mail drops about Banks. That’s an over reaction altogether. And Key’s apology says he says things differently in private than in public…!?
From what I can hear and deduce its a boring nothingness.
Have we been conned ?
Seems so to me.
Tim Selwyn’s take on the tap has a couple of extra details, and the dogiest stuff may have been said in a whisper, after Banks says he didn’t know, following the 15% snap election comment:
http://www.tumeke.blogspot.com/2012/01/teapot-tape-now-online.html
Excellent work. Let us please use this format. If in doubt as to the speaker, leave the start of the line blank. And feel free to dispute any transcript so we can have another listen.
7:20
JK: What do you want to do, scan it?
JB: Yep.
…
JK: Is that yours?
JK: Is that yours?
JK: Is that yours?
JB: No.
JK: Hey that’s a recording device.
…
It’s someone’s recording device.
Let’s take a look.
7:50 recording muffled
It’s on youtube, cant work it out much thought its very noisy.. Sorry nearly posted but realised it was illegal.
the censor is in your head 🙂
TPTB rely on people to enforce self censorship e.g. NZ on Air.
Gingrich calls for moon base, space contests
An interesting headline because, as the text makes clear, what he’s actually calling for is more state subsidies of private business. Here’s the text:
US$1.8b into private hands per year.
If it was important for commerce then it would already be happening. ATM, it’s still far too cheap to continue to destroy the Earth’s environment for private profit.
The really funny thing about that is that US$1.8b is chump change:
A moon base, that’s real funny.
In a few years, the US won’t even be able to keep its carrier fleet at sea most of the time.
Cameron Slater – Asshole of the Week
Amongst the claims by the right wing that there’s nothing of note in the teapot tape and we should all just move along, is another feckless rant by Cameron Slater…
Do you not think he uploaded the tape himself as he new Parliament was about to sit and Winstone will let every body know. now the heat is off