Anadarko has started drilling for oil off the coast of Raglan.
Another nail in the coffin for New Zealand’s reputation as a leader in environmental matters.
A sad day.
YEAH to Greenie Jeanette Fitzsimons!!!!! …..former Green Party Leader and Green activist and researcher….What a gem of a woman!…what a hero she is…out there on the deep seas fighting against unsafe oil drilling off the coast of New Zealand. She makes me proud to be a New Zealander and proud to be a woman!
…..and also a big Yeah for Bunny McDairmaid( Greenpeace)!!!! …what a New Zealand hero she is! ….skipper of SV Tiama tracking the oil drilling ship Noble Bob Douglas
Great people with the courage of their convictions.
However when does it end how can we beat these Right Wing selfish greedy bastards .
We no sooner win one battle up up they come with some other ghastly scheme. However as the late Joe
Totally agree with Paul!
Unsure how a Government representing a country who has signed the Kyoto Protocol can stand up for deep sea drilling or any further drilling or extraction of fossil fuels which in turn create greenhouse gases.
When Simon Bridge’s grandkids are running around with masks on to survive, he may see the error of his ways and thinking. Good for NZ? He is supposed to be an intelligent man, and I suspect far more educated than the role model John Key that he appears to idolise.
The fact of the matter (quoting Simon), is that even with the stringent compliance necessary, New Zealand could not cope with an oil spill, and the events off Tauranga give evidence to the problems encountered and that was only small scale.
This Government and subsequent governments, should be promoting and investing in alternative energy, do their homework (what they get paid for) and see the reality of the contributions people such as Kessler have given to the world.
We could be World leaders yet again with inventing and promoting alternative energy sources.
Time for present and forward Governments to stop and think about the decisions they are making, and stop focusing on the short term monetary gains.
Global warming is happening, fossil fuels are contributing, let’s get behind positive steps to reduce fossil fuel extraction and hence useage and become part of the solution and not part of the problem.
The argument of “did you drive your car today” is only a valid argument if alternate modes of transport were freely available. I am sure if alternative green fuels were available, they would be the peoples choice.
So yes I agree…A sad day!
These are sad days indeed, and it benefits people to be real about that. It’s scraping the bottom of the barrel time, socio-politically speaking. Seen footage of the air pollution in large Asian cities, looks like Blade Runner (which is being remade) to me.
You know, I have literally never before encountered someone who sees it that way around. You know what you get if you subtract all the “this is just like the time when I ___” randomness out of Family Guy? A less subversive version of All in the Family.
It’s Tuesday 26 November 2013, about 7am and I’m about to get dressed, finish packing bag and get bus to 488 George St Sydney to attend a full day workshop at the Australian Public Sector Anti-Corruption Conference.
Have trimmed over 700 ‘business’ (NOT) cards, ready to do ‘swapsies’ with as many of the fellow attendees as possible.
ACTIVISM 101 – GET THEIR NAMES! 🙂
Tonight is a net-working event, so it will be quite a big day.
I have printed off copies of the request Lisa Prager and myself have made to the NZ Serious Fraud Office, requesting an investigation for alleged bribery and corruption by Mayor Len Brown and Sky City (Auckland), to discuss with anti-corruption experts and any Australian media who may be interested.
(It seems that many people I’ve spoken to here are aware of the Auckland Mayor ‘sex scandal’.
However, the fact that there was NO ‘due diligence’carried out by Auckland Council on the increased risk of money-laundering, arising from the NZ International Convention Centre (or – as I prefer to call it – the Sky City ‘money-laundering’ ) Act 2013, whilst on Mayor Len Brown’s ‘watch’, doesn’t appear to be so widely known, probably because of what seems to be effectively a mainstream media ‘blackout’ on this story?).
It seems that the Anti finning legislation is just another Smoke and Mirrors load of bullshit from the Nats as it is going to be phased in, in 3 years. So much for conservation from the Nats.
“Lost in the touchy-feel good images was the fine print: New Zealand’s intention to ban the practice is three years away and is only a proposal.
Conservationists worried about the status of many of our 113 shark species say there is no justification for the phase-in and fear fishing industry proponents will use a consultation period to water down the plan.” http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11161466
The whole approach to managing New Zealand’s fisheries needs a rethink.
From protecting all identified spawning areas to through to ensuring only New Zealander’s own and run the fishing boats. Dont get me started on longlines and bottom trawling.
I see that cameras on fishing boats are to be phased in over the next 2 years to help combat dumping. Its a band aid.
I’m ok with eating dead things, though these days I comsume very little meat. A result of the change in my eating habits when I was a vegetarian.
I’m also of the belief that if you do not have the stomach to kill it, you should not eat it.
So, I’ve killed and eaten possums, chickens, duck, rabbits, goat, and fish. It’s the butchering I find more troubling than actually ending the animals life.
I’ve not killed a deer, pig, sheep or cow.
I’d like to see study of food sources including trips to farms and freezing works as part of the curriculum for every secondary school student so they can at least make properly informed decisions about what they eat.
I started eating mostly as a vegetarian when I was flatting with a couple of friends who were veges.
At that time, I’d eat meat when I visited my parents or sometimes when I went out.
I then turned full vegetarian when I shifted and started living with with what can only be described as a bunch of hippies.
Intelligent, informed, artistic, curious and healthy both in mind and body. Wonderful people.
It was the start of a great deal of learning for me, not only in food, but emotional health, group or tribal health.
All up I lived as a vegetarian for about 6 years.
I started eating meat again when I left New Zealand and lived in various places overseas. I found it difficult to maintain being a vegetarian as a single travelling person, though I did meet people along they way that managed it.
Not eating meat for me was never a moral decision as it is with some people.
Since I returned to New Zealand, I’ve not resumed a vegetarian lifestyle, and continue to eat meat about once per week.
I think we should eat a lot more possums. I tried it once and was vaguely impressed. It might be a good way of controlling their numbers and giving our native flora and fauna a bit more of a chance. I agree with you about trips to farms and meat works, especially battery hen factories and pig torture facilities. Dairy farms might be good as well, just to see the damage being done to the waterways.
Really? I thought it meant something like – ” involving questions of right and wrong behavior : relating to ethics” http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ethical
Are you telling me vegans and vegetarians don’t consider eating meat as a question of right and wrong?
Yet people claim that fish can’t feel pain (or animals can’t feel emotion) and use science to back that up. Some scientists support that using the scientific method.
Oh dear. Phillip I think of this often when I eat fish. I reached my 30th anniversary of being vego last year. (I turned vego when I was 14) but have started eating fish occasionally. It’s gives me a protein burst that I seem to need more as I get older.
But what to do? The darlings suffer and we have a slack arse regulatory framework around marine protection, and I’m uncomfortable with being part of the problem It’s a quandary.
(link has lots of other protein-source information..)
..there is one culinary thing i have to give the americans credit for..
..the peanut butter and jam combination..
..a good quality bread (toasted..)..with a good quality (not sugar-drenched) jam..overlaid with a healthy dollop of (extra crunchy)peanut butter..
..washed down with hot tea..is a fast-food heaven..
(and something weird is happening with me..i am getting urges to make (nut-laden) breads..and (not sugar drenched) jams..i dunno w.t.f. that is all about..)
I did try vegan on and off for many of those years, it’s where my heart is at as far as the bovines are concerned (they are lovely animals) and for environmental reasons, but , oh! I have a terrible soft spot for cheese. Cheese and only cheese, out of all the variety of dairy products. Now days I try to avoid Fonterra products where possible and get goat cheese if I can ever afford it. About two thirds of my meals would be vegan.
Peanut butter – yes, the PIC;s one on wholegrain toast in the morning is a goer but PB + jam, I did give that a go as a teen but it felt a bit too Elvis for my tastes.
And avo’s. Regrettably they don’t agree with me. Regrettable because they are a great food and good in place of dairy fats.
I guess where I am now is in the place of a lapsed vego (pescetarian I think the word is)trying to mitigate the environmental and ethical impact of dietary requirements. And thats before my brand boycotts begin! Thats another level of avoidance due to not consuming food from corporates who have a track record of labour rights abuses.
Rosie, you get protein from most things you eat, plants are actually quite high in protein.
No need to get it from animals at all. When did you last hear of someone in the western world suffering from protein deficiency? Cheese is hard to give up but you can buy vegan cheeses nowadays, some good, some not so good. I make cheeses from nuts, mainly cashews and they are delicious. Lots of recipes on google!
Nuts are excellent, in particular walnuts. They are often provided in the diets of elderly people who are unable to eat large portions; contain most minerals etc.
“..and what the horrors for them of death from a hook thru the mouth..
..followed by suffocation and/or a head-bash..
..must be like..
..eh..?..”
Probably similar to the small creatures that get half chopped by the harvesting machines and then die slowly in the fields of grains and beans that provide the food you eat.
Trillions of dollars worth of oil and gas simply waiting to be extracted. Anadarko are prepared to spend 1 million dollars a day to look for this oil. They obviously believe it is there. They will drill for 70 days and may well draw a blank (90% chance). Such is life. If they do strike oil then we all win. On Waitangi Day we may discover that New Zealand is richer than it is today
Or poorer. Depends on the costs, which do not figure in your analysis. A bit like those housing market models that do not allow for decreases in housing value.
The protest flotilla (six tiny boats) have given up and are on the way back to port already. The High Court cannot stop a perfectly legal activity. Roll on Waitangi Day when we can all discover if we are wealthier.
The Cunliffe was trying to claim there was a 70% chance of spill. You are now trying to claim that there is just a 5% chance, That figure is not believable as it not the Norwegian UK or USA experience at all. The Gulf of Mexico is still cleanly producing loads of oil and profits to the USA.
Questions for all who object to drilling and petroleum exploration.
Do you use an automobile?
Do you intend to keep using an automobile?
Do you use digital / electronic goods?
Do you eat cheap packaged foods?
I could carry on. If you want to stop it the only way is to stop consuming and using petrochemical products…which you will find pretty much impossible to do. We are all culpable, to change we need to embrace alternatives now, and cut our whole life expectations. If not, well we are fucked.
I have an automobile and use it when public transport, walking and cycling is inconvenient. One of the main considerations when buying my house was so that walking, cycling and public transport was most convenient.
So, I take the train to the city, use my bike or walk for shopping, and use my car when I go to the coromandel.
Yes, I use digital / electronic goods. I’m quite keen to see oil subsidies and tax breaks redirected toward research in alternative materials.
Very few of my foods are cheap.
I bake my own bread and grow vegetables. When shopping I have a couple of bags I reuse.
Unfortunately, so many things are wrapped in plastic these days, it’s very difficult to avoid.
As Naturesong points out, existing in society without using oil (directly or indirectly) is pretty near impossible for us as individuals.
But the very fact that oil companies are finding it commercially viable to drill so deep or mine crappy oil sands demonstrates that the “low hanging fruit” is running out, oil-wise. Refusing to endanger other industries and the environment by desperately drilling the last drops makes oil even more expensive, so R&D into fossil-fuel replacements becomes more commercially viable and accelerates the society-wide transition away from oil.
We can’t stop using oil in our daily lives.
We can try to stop drilling more of it, though.
Yes, almost everything available today uses oil in its construction but most oil drilled is used for transport (69% to 97%).
I’m not really against drilling for oil, I just think we should use it for better purposes than transport especially in NZ where it’s possible to produce enough electricity to power transport. We may have to get rid of private motor vehicles but that’s ok because they’re a massive waste of resources anyway.
I had a feeling you would not engage honestly. You have 2 logical fallacies here; ad hominam where you cast David Cunliffe as economical with the truth, and then use that as a red herring to avoid adressing either of my points.
David Cunliffe did not claim there was a 70% chance of a spill.
He produced documentation that showed there was a 70% chance of a reportable incident
Amy Adams put forward the strawman that he was talking about spills. I see you are repeating that willful and dishonest mis-interpretation.
The incidence of spills in ultra-deep water (greater than 1500m) are about 1 in 19 (24 spills from 465 wells).
So, back to the question.
If oil is discovered, how much wealthier will we be?
And when an oil spill happens, how much wealthier will we be?
A spill of thousands of barrels means quite a lot.
Your hero Key wants to gamble with over $15b in annual revenue from tourism and fisheries for the sake of a drilling rig that probably won’t match that in its operational life.
Maybe thats the Nats plan, ruin the tourism industry and then the Bankers and other thieves, can come in and make us slaves to the rich in our own country.
Your link to spills were spills of just over 50 barrels.
How much wealthier will we be? Just ask the citizens of the Arabian states with oil.
IF a tiny oil spill occurs not a cent less wealthier.
That’s the bit that completely eludes the average RWNJs. They go on about how better off we will be and ignore the fact that it will only be the 1% at the top that will be better off.
The document includes spills from 50 barrels up but to 4.9 million barrels.
However, we can only assess the likely hood of a spill with this data, not the extent of the damage. For that we would turn to modelling of what a spill would look like in our region of the world.
Andarko have refused to release the modelling, and only say
In the environmental impact assessment it last month lodged with the Environmental Protection Authority for its Taranaki operation, the company conceded a loss of well control would hold “significant impacts” for the environment, but stated this was “extremely unlikely”.
Now, comparing Saudi Oil to New Zealand.
More than 95% of all Saudi oil is produced on behalf of the Saudi Government by the parastatal giant Saudi Aramco.
So, they get to keep their oil, and being a leader in OPEC as well owning 18% of the worlds oil, they get it all on their own terms.
And were you aware that they are currently trying to diversify their economy. Why would they need to do that?
New Zealand on the other hand, with “Lets make a deal” Key ….
we get either;
5% AVR, that is 5% of the net revenues obtained from the sale of petroleum or
20% APR, that is 20% of the accounting profit of petroleum production.
So, after the stuff is extracted shipped, processed or onsold, and the accountants go though it, we get royalties.
Whats the bet that the company makes an accounting loss, or ends up with token net revenues?
How much would you pay an accounting firm to ensure that happens?
Also, since there are enough known oil reserves in the world, that if we extracted them all and burnt the stuff, we’d literally cook ourselves. So, whatever oil was discovered, we cannot use all of it.
Oh, and for that pittance we assume all the risk of a spill, the cost of a clean up, the destruction of our fisheries, tourism, and Clean Green Image.
The image alone is valued in the region of 30B per year, every year.
So, again, how much wealthier will we be?
The wealth is not found in a polluting, dying industry.
The wealth is in clean energy solutions.
Great to see all that profit for the US and A. How much more before they’ll be able to house all their people? It wouldn’t cost that much, there are plenty of empty houses. Maybe they could fuel buses to transport homeless people to the empty houses. Ah, the wonders of profit!
As per normal the RWNJ fails to realise that the resource is more valuable than the electronic dollars.
Worse than that, they can’t even figure out the value in electronic dollars.
According to Wikipedia, NZ has oil reserves of 534 million barrels.
At $1-200 per barrel, I make that $50-100bil.
If the new deep sea exploration doubles NZ’s oil reserves, that’s maybe $200bil. “Trillions” my arse.
Not just nowhere near “trillions”, but only ten or fifteen years worth of tourism income alone – income that even the existence of exploration can endanger, let alone a moderate spill.
The conversation we are having about wealth and dollars is totally redundant: who gives a flying fuck if the oil extraction ends up killing the planet how many $s you made?
As Xtasy has painstakingly pointed out this government has been taking advice from UK advisors on how to deal with the sick and disabled. It also is practising a sanctions regime on the unemployed which I believe is being copied from the UK system. Over there it’s all got to the level of persecution of Beneficiaries as soon as they slip up or rightly refuse to not do workfare.
The extreme it’s got to over there is illustrated by this case :
“Half-blind woman crippled with back pain killed herself after benefits bosses stopped her disability payments – following a TWO MINUTE assessment
Jacqueline Harris, 53, was told she was fit to return to work
Widow was partially sighted and only able to walk with the aid of sticks
Christine Norman claims benefits ruling drove her sister to kill herself”
This morning Steven Joyce was commenting on Government expecting enterprises to estimate their needs for revenue for a future year so they approximate better to the actual amount. He said that public or private should be able to forecast correctly. I was remembering how he had to bail out MediaWorks which seemed an example of how difficult this is to do.
Tertiary educationals have had their buffer zone for repayment of over resourcing reduced from 3% to 1%. It must be hard to estimate right in this dynamic period of interesting times. So Government is squeezing these bodies for what reason? Trying to make provision of education harder? Along with a deep sense of distrust and distaste for any discipline other than an MBA with a PhD in how to extract millions of litres (dollars) from one lemon?
@CnrJoe… would be very interesting to see the detail of this statistic. And there’s nary a sewage pond to be seen throughout Southland. Just lots of rivers literally turning to shite
Will Fonterra pay for the cleanup? Unlikely since National Inc. nobbled the democratically elected ECan and other boards are stacked, and the RMA is being ‘streamlined’
Well, if you thought you’d seen all the madness and absurdity that could possibly come out of the financial system by now, you are definitely being caught on the wrong flat foot as we speak. And there can be no doubt that much more of this will be revealed as we go along. Jamie Dimon renting Buckingham Palace to celebrate his $13 billion settlement with US regulators is just the beginning, though it’s a pretty clear statement of just how untouchable too big to fail policies have made Wall Street and the City feel. And they don’t feel that way for nothing, in every sense of the word, count on it.
A Labour spokesman said this about the party at the Palace, which included appearances by the Royal Philharmonic and the English National Ballet: ““There is also the fact that this should be a special place. This is the home of the Queen. Where is it all going to end?“ Well, sir, maybe it’s time to wake up, because the new kings and queens of the world have taken over. And they intend to be loud and proud about it, like any group of conquerors throughout history ever did.
Stands our little attempts at “democracy” well on end do you think?
If oil is found in large quantities it would certainly raise the currency and make exporting difficult but not impossible. I have a Stressless recliner chair made in Norway for instance. It was expensive but absolute quality.The problem of being too affluent from oil riches could only arise under a National government. I for one would be happy to handle that crisis if and when it arises.
Energy is an effective tax on all activities and products in an economy. So you are right, but such an “uptick” is likely to make us more dependent on fossil fuels, not less, as we enjoyed another round of the good time ride.
The problem of being too affluent from oil riches could only arise under a National government.
hahahahahaha
The only people who would be able buy stuff would be the people getting the money and that won’t be 99% of the population. The only people National care about is the rich and they will do everything that they can to make them richer at our expense.
Norwegians can make quality stuff because they train craftspeople. We used to, but now we have a service economy with people who would have done apprenticeships finding themselves on a minimum wage or a grudgingly paid pittance of a benefit. Apart from yachts, what do we still make? A high dollar when we sell milk powder and our most creative people have moved overseas is a disaster, but I suppose it’ll make the next lot of ministerial Beemers a bit cheaper.
you do realise thats just key attempting to lay a very obvious trap?
Do you support the PM goading the opposition to behave irresponsibly?
Wasnt “show me the money” keys catch cry last time?
Isnt this now “go on, say something before you do your due dilligence”?
Did you spot that key claims its the oppositions money and not tax payer money?
Isnt waiting to see the state of the books before you commit to spending tax payer money a good idea?
Me – im less than impressed that our PM chose to use the media to engage in school yard taunts. Just how old is he? 12?
Many of the Standardistas, as you name them, don’t want Cunliffe to BUY back the shares either.
There have been many comments proposing that the shares should simply be cancelled, or taken back into state control with no compensation being paid at all.
There have been many comments proposing that the shares should simply be cancelled, or taken back into state control with no compensation being paid at all.
That’s not ideal and probably not necessary: you can just dilute the sons of bitches.
Hope a new Government is not going to do a buy back – renationalisation without compensation makes much more sense since the assets belonged to the past and present taxpayers of New Zealand and not the Government. The salutary lesson might teach the greedies a valuable lesson that falls short of violent revolution. On second thoughts, the French peasants and their quaint revolutionary technology sounds far more exciting – especially since the wailing of the shareholders/ticket-clippers would be short lived.
The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 11.4.1
If he’s not willing to be so rash as to commit to buy them back, then I think expecting him to take them back without compensation is a recipe for disappointment.
And CC, advocating murder of people you disagree with isn’t as hip as you think it is.
A functional definition of a psychopath is a person who cannot feel empathy for fellow human beings or shame or remorse for their atrocities and acts of cruelty. However, non-compliance with their schemes with whatever level of courage one has at any moment and educating others as to the shit really going down on this planet is the only effective course. Like many species of vermin, and the mythical vampires that they are, they can only function in the dark.
Sociopathic banksters won’t even get it when they’re waiting for their turn at the guillotine.
Richard S. Fuld Jr. of Lehman Brothers said. “I take it as a personal failure to lose money,” On the morning of March 17, 2008, justice would declare he should have been headed to prison instead of to work.
Richard Fuld, who early on that morning — at 5 a.m. — departed from his twelve-acre Greenwich estate with its twenty rooms, eight bedrooms, a tennis court, a squash court, and a pool house –one of five he owned—to be chauffer driven to deal with a possible run on banks and the bankruptcy of Bear Stearns, the smallest of Wall Street’s Big Five investment houses?
Richard Fuld who, among past winners of Fed largesse and insider information soon to be scapegoat along with Ken Lewis, on that morning was headed “right onto North Street toward the winding and narrow Merritt Parkway, headed for Manhattan”…starring “ out the window in a fog at the rows of mansions owned by Wall Street executives and hedge fund impresarios,” as described by Andrew Sorkin in Too Big to Fail?
Where “most of the homes had been bought for eight-figure sums and lavishly renovated during the second Gilded Age, which, unbeknownst to any of them, lest of all Fuld, was about to come to a crashing halt.”
And where now, all but a handful in the financial sector, thanks to U.S. taxpayers and the ownership of a printing machine, are still enjoying, on the streets where they live, a financial sector share of corporate profits that has risen to a new peak in the $450 billion range, according to the U.S. Dept. of Commerce, Bureau of Economic Analysis?
Crimes against humanity on a massive scale, the perpetuation of suffering and death, the oppression and subjugation of many for the profits of a few, none of this seems to register with you.
This ongoing, systematic violence and bloodshed goes unremarked upon, while you damn near faint with shock at the thought of anyone violently resisting these horrors.
Interesting moral compass you have there. Might want to get it re-calibrated though.
The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell …
CC advocates guillotining people who bought shares in Air New Zealand. The same people that James Henderson was so deeply concerned at having lost a few bucks the other day.
I told him I thought that wasn’t as hip as he thought it was.
I am pretty happy with where my moral compass is on this score.
You might want to re-examine yours if you think that the privatising of 20% of the shares in an airline that you keep control of (and which the opposition planned to sell 10 years previously) is “ongoing, systematic violence and bloodshed” that requires beheadings.
Because if the top 1% continue their extreme greed and exploitation much longer then the number of people suffering under poverty and war will reach a critical mass, the fabric of society will fall apart, and no amount of money will save them from sharing in the misery they have created
“You might want to re-examine yours if you think that the privatising of 20% of the shares in an airline that you keep control of (and which the opposition planned to sell 10 years previously) is “ongoing, systematic violence and bloodshed” that requires beheadings.”
Ah yes sorry Gormy, I forgot your rule about only looking at any given event in absolute isolation from every other event.
The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell …
What is the reason shareholders in Air New Zealand are to be beheaded? Is it unrelated to their shareholding in Air New Zealand? Makes as much sense as anything else you’ve pronounced on this topic, I suppose.
National’s full-on assault on democracy continues with an attempt to gut local democracy in Hawkes Bay in favour of a tiny , mayor plus nine member council for the entire Hawkes bay region. The autocratic and corporatist ambitions of Key and co know no bounds, they won’t be happy until the entire country is run by an unelected board of directors.
Local government amalgamation is a hot button issue in Hawkes Bay. Napier Mayor Bill Dalton was elected on a specific anti-amalgamation platform. looks like this is going to send Stuart Nash to parliament as Labour MP for Napier for sure.
The Ayatollah’s comments are simply speaking to his local political base. Both this agreement, and the secret talks held with the US in the months leading up to it, would have needed the go ahead from the Ayatollah to have even occurred.
As for Israel – to an outsider there is a lot of internal political pressure building up in that country, and also it’s spent too long delivering huge financial costs and political liabilities to the US for very little in return eg. Palestinian settlement situation getting worse not better.
Article IV
1. Nothing in this Treaty shall be interpreted as affecting the inalienable right of all the Parties to the Treaty to develop research, production and use of nuclear energy for peaceful purposes without discrimination and in conformity with articles I and II of this Treaty.
Your link only goes to the top of Kiwipolitico which is an active blog which means that the top article will change rapidly. My link goes to the actual article. This means that in a few months after the front page of Kiwipoliticao has changed people will still be able to find the article.
Bryce Edwards gives Labour a clear path to eliminate the National backing Maori Party
The future of the Maori Party in both Te Tai Hauauru and throughout the rest of the Maori seats might well depend on relations between the Labour and Mana parties. If those two parties end up agreeing to an accommodation pact in which Mana stands aside from five of the seven seats and Labour stands aside in Hone Harawira’s seat as well as Te Ururoa Flavell’s Waiariki seat, then the Maori Party might struggle to remain in Parliament.
What happened to the Foreshore and Seabed issue anyway? Isn’t that the reason for the Maori Party to exist? Was a billion dollars for Whanau Ora a good investment?
Please take some time to consider isgning this. None of us knows when we, a friend or other loved one, from illness, accident, or age may be disabled.
The petition reads:
“We, the undersigned, request the House of Representatives to urgently take all appropriate measures to ensure full access to public and commercial buildings for disabled people especially for new buildings in the Christchurch rebuild”
For the Earthquake Disability Leadership Group this means equality in access and that all people, including those with disabilities are able to enter, exit and move through a building in the same way as everybody else does.
The Building Act 2004 and the Building Code require all buildings to which the public are admitted (whether for free or by charge) to have reasonable and adequate facilities for disabled people to visit, work, and carry out normal activities there. The Building Act and Building Code do not require access or facilities for disabled people in residential housing.
The Department of Building and Housing administers the Act and regulations. Enforcement of the Act and regulations is carried out by territorial authorities, which issue building consents and code compliance certification for buildings that comply with the Act and regulations.
The Building Act also references the New Zealand Standard NZS 4121 (the code of practice for design for access and use of buildings by persons with disabilities) as a compliance document for the requirements of disabled people’s access.
No, Joyce is taking the opportunity from the earthquake to save commercial developers money by not having to make their buildings accessible. It is intended to bring it in across NZ.
New proposed ammendments to evidence act passed cabinet. BUT I wonder if they will change much.
One is that victims willbe told in advance if their sexual history is going to come up. That may dissauade them from appearing and have the opposite effect.
The victims previous sexual history has no bearing upon their being raped. As such, it should be forbidden to bring it up in court or anywhere. In fact, there’s probably quite a bit that’s irrelevant to the allegation and should be banned from being asked – what the victim was wearing comes to mind as well.
I agree. The ONLY possible evidence that might be relevant is if she has been proven to be a liar about being reaped before BUT a defendants previous offending, even the same type of offending s not allowed in, so logically….
Tell me fellow Standard contributors am I the only one to feel rather uncomfortably at the way the parole appeals for Ewen MacDonald was arrived,at.
I do not for one minute think he is a very nice person but the fact is he was found not guilty.
However the Serious sensible mob still seem to have a lot to say regarding this case.
The police (may be influenced by the SS bunch ?) are not planning to investigate further ,yet there is one other person who is suspect and in my personal opinion there could be one other .
Interesting you brought up the Scott Guy murder case Pink Postman. Does anyone else feel curious about the obsession the MSM have with this particular murder? There have been many equally bizarre murder inquiries – some of them unsolved – that have not received anything like the media attention this one has. Am I being a little precious when I look at the following:
1. Colour – white.
2. Status – well to do country folk with a farming background.
3. Good looking family.
4 Seemingly well educated and articulate.
4. National Party stalwarts.
Counter that with a brown skinned or white working class victim. Probably equally as bright if not brighter, but without the status symbol and few opportunities to make something of themselves. Tough bickies. Sorry n’ all that, but we’re not all that interested.
he was not guilty of the murder of scott guy, he is in prison for his other acts. Which, on a pathological scale are pretty scarey.
I was appalled recently to see a farmer who deliberately broke the tails of 150 cows got 8 months home detention. Cruelty o animals is wrong per se, but is frequently a harbinger of violence toward humans…
MacDonald’s apparantly cavalier attitude may be on a list of behaviours of pathalogical folks…
In the past five years the total assets on US bank books have risen by a ‘paltry’ $2.1 trillion while over the same period, Chinese bank assets have exploded by an unprecedented $15.4 trillion hitting a gargantuan CNY147 trillion or an epic $24 trillion – some two and a half times the GDP of China!
Putting the rate of change in perspective, while the Fed was actively pumping $85 billion per month into US banks for a total of $1 trillion each year, in just the trailing 12 months ended September 30, Chinese bank assets grew by a mind-blowing $3.6 trillion!
So when you lose out on that purchase of a home to a Chinese buyer who bid 50% over asking sight unseen, with no intentions to ever move in, you will finally know why this is happening.
So when you lose out on that purchase of a home to a Chinese buyer who bid 50% over asking sight unseen, with no intentions to ever move in, you will finally know why this is happening.
And that is why foreign ownership of NZ land and businesses need to be banned now. The way that things are going we will soon be serfs in our ow land as everything gets sold by the greedies for cash which is hot off the digital printing press.
Where is the ‘spinner’ Hooten, i would like to know from which side of the spectrum the ‘private polling’ came,(where does this put National then, 39%???, i wasn’t expecting that until after the Christmas break when everyone has had a chance to stop and think)…
Slavoj Zizek commenting on that fat gutted shameful Mayor of Toronto. Rob Ford makes Boris Johnson look the height of human nobility.
Zizek says that the left has put aside its traditional concerns and allowed politics to be parodied, become a fun show with people like Rob Ford, being outrageous, and still getting support from, and he uses the word, ‘cynical’ political supporters.
Labour has focussed on gay rights and people’s rights too single-mindedly and disregarded its other concerns with a disastrous outcome.
McFlock
I know you can be relied on to see through the glass darkly when it comes to feminiism or rape culture or gay rights or something that you can possibly take umbrage or create contention about. Did you look and listen to the link. Why don’t you specify his comment so we know what you are on about.
I think that the present bad situation for low income people with poor employment conditions, deteriorating everything might be what he had in mind when he said that Labour had failed to act to improve rights and the lives of all people which it says it is concerned about.
Firstly, the left has not “put aside” traditional concerns. It has simply recognised that inequality and the alienation of the proletariat extend farther than the mere bank balance and rights of employees.
Secondly, the Rob Fords of the world are not the fault of the left. At worst, they are the fault of a neolib culture which means that such folk (John Banks for example) hang on to the pay cheque when even thirty years ago a person would have had the sense of shame and dignity to resign. If anything they help the left, being obvious canker sores of the “fuck you” ruling class.
And thirdly, if the more insecure members of “the left” concentrated on improving workers’ rights themselves rather than bitching that teh gayz and teh wimmins are getting too much attention, the world would be a better place in so many fucking ways.
Firstly, the left has not “put aside” traditional concerns. It has simply recognised that inequality and the alienation of the proletariat extend farther than the mere bank balance and rights of employees.
I think thoughtful left watchers consider that the focus of Labour has been on the far extensions of inequality and the nearer ones have been alienated.
And Zizek being a poseur Bill. He is as full of interesting ideas and thinking as you are. And I have a lot of respect for you, though I do not agree with all your ideas.
I think thoughtful left watchers consider that the focus of Labour has been on the far extensions of inequality and the nearer ones have been alienated.
I was going to reply with a list of moral failings of the Right but realised that a mud slinging exercise would be futile. And I do agree that Labour in the past has given too much focus on identity politics at the expense of addressing the dramatically worsening socio economic inequality in NZ.
Neo-liberals, of which the Labour party still has way too many for my liking, are OK about extending human rights, so long as they don’t don’t conflict with, their running off with, “the money”.
Throwing progressives a few crumbs, like gay marriage, while they continue to burgle us.
We, however, are capable of multitasking!
There is no reason why we cannot address the rights of minorities, and other disadvantaged groups, along with the right to be free from poverty, and be fairly paid.
For example. gay rights, women’s rights and workers rights are not mutually exclusive. They are all part and parcel of a fair and decent society.
But, despite the broad church blah blah blah thing, what’s up with Shane Jones? Is there something I am missing? Commentators – help?
Labour deliberately or uncontrollably giving mixed messages?? Surely tactics and strategies are much better formulated with Cunliffe at the helm?
Shane has been, is, and will be, in the wrong party as long as he is in Labour. Time for the caucus and party to take the next step in terms of real change from within.
Speaking on Maori TV’s Te Kaea tonight, Jones was outspoken about attempts to stop Anadarko from deep sea drilling and said the protesters should remember that the company had a statutory right to be there.
Only if we, not the government, choose to extend them that right.
“Protesters need to bear in mind we are buying oil out of the Gulf of Mexico and other far-flung places when we should be focusing on making an industry in our own country.”
And the reason for that would be because our oil refinery doesn’t refine our oil.
Yeah, I’d say that it was time for Shane Jones to wander off and join United Future where he could fully support National while saying that he isn’t.
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Workers Now is a new slate of candidates contesting this year’s general election. James Robb and Don Franks are the people behind this initiative and they are hoping to put the spotlight on working people’s interests. Both are seasoned activists who have campaigned for workers’ rights over many decades. Here is ...
Buzz from the Beehive Politicians keen to curry favour with Māori tribal leaders have headed north for Waitangi weekend. More than a few million dollars of public funding are headed north, too. Not all of this money is being trumpeted on the Beehive website, the Government’s official website. ...
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Our Cranky Uncle Game can already be played in eight languages: English, Dutch, French, German, Italian, Portuguese, Spanish and Swedish. About 15 more languages are in the works at various stages of completion or have been offered to be done. To kick off the new year, we checked with how ...
The (new) Prime Minister said nobody understands what co-governance means, later modified to that there were so many varying interpretations that there was no common understanding.Co-governance cannot be derived from the UN Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples. It does not use the word. It refers to ‘government’ on ...
It’s that time of the week again when and I co-host our ‘hoon’ webinar with paying subscribers to The Kaka. Jump on this link for our chat about the week’s news with special guests Auckland Central MP Chloe Swarbrick and Auckland City Councillor Julie Fairey, including:Auckland’s catastrophic floods, which ...
In March last year, in a panic over rising petrol prices caused by Russia's invasion of Ukraine, the government made a poor decision, "temporarily" cutting fuel excise tax by 25 cents a litre. Of course, it turned out not to be temporary at all, having been extended in May, July, ...
This month’s open thread for climate related topics. Please be constructive, polite, and succinct. The post Unforced variations: Feb 2023 first appeared on RealClimate. ...
Buzz from the Beehive Two fresh press releases had been posted when we checked the Beehive website at noon, both of them posted yesterday. In one statement, in the runup to Waitangi Day, Maori Crown Relations Minister Kelvin Davis drew attention to happenings on a Northland battle site in 1845. ...
It’s that time of the week again when I’m on the site for an hour for a chat in an Ask Me Anything with paying subscribers to The Kaka. Jump in for a chat on anything, including:Auckland’s catastrophic floods, which are set to cost insurers and the Government well over ...
Australia’s Treasurer Jim Chalmers (left) has published a 6,000 word manifesto called ‘Capitalism after the Crises’ arguing for ‘values-based capitalism’. Yet here in NZ we hear the same stale old rhetoric unchanged from the 1990s and early 2000s. Photo: Getty ImagesTLDR: The rest of the world is talking about inflation ...
A couple of weeks ago, after NCEA results came out, my son’s enrolment at Auckland Uni for this year was confirmed - he is doing a BSc majoring in Statistics. Well that is the plan now, who knows what will take his interest once he starts.I spent a bit of ...
Kia ora. What a week! We hope you’ve all come through last weekend’s extreme weather event relatively dry and safe. Header image: stormwater ponds at Hobsonville Point. Image via Twitter. The week in Greater Auckland There’s been a storm of information and debate since the worst of the flooding ...
Hi,At 4.43pm yesterday it arrived — a cease and desist letter from the guy I mentioned in my last newsletter. I’d written an article about “WEWE”, a global multi-level marketing scam making in-roads into New Zealand. MLMs are terrible for many of the same reasons megachurches are terrible, and I ...
Time To Call A Halt: Chris Hipkins knows that iwi leaders possess the means to make life very difficult for his government. Notwithstanding their objections, however, the Prime Minister’s direction of travel – already clearly signalled by his very public demotion of Nanaia Mahuta – must be confirmed by an emphatic ...
Open access notables Via PNAS, Ceylan, Anderson & Wood present a paper squarely in the center of the Skeptical Science wheelhouse: Sharing of misinformation is habitual, not just lazy or biased. The signficance statement is obvious catnip: Misinformation is a worldwide concern carrying socioeconomic and political consequences. What drives ...
Mark White from the Left free speech organisation Plebity looks at the disturbing trend of ‘book burning’ on US campuses In the abstract, people mostly agree that book banning is a bad thing. The Nazis did us the favor of being very clear about it and literally burning books, but ...
Prime Minister Chris Hipkins has undergone a stern baptisim of fire in his first week in his new job, but it doesn’t get any easier. Next week, he has a vital meeting in Canberra with his Australian counterpart Anthony Albanese, where he has to establish ...
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Buzz from the Beehive Cost-of-living pressures loomed large in Beehive announcements over the past 24 hours. The PM was obviously keen to announce further measures to keep those costs in check and demonstrate he means business when he talks of focusing his government on bread-and-butter issues. His statement was headed ...
Poor Mike Hosking. He has revealed himself in his most recent diatribe to be one of those public figures who is defined, not by who he is, but by who he isn’t, or at least not by what he is for, but by what he is against. Jacinda’s departure has ...
New Zealand is the second least corrupt country on earth according to the latest Corruption Perception Index published yesterday by Transparency International. But how much does this reflect reality? The problem with being continually feted for world-leading political integrity – which the Beehive and government departments love to boast about ...
TLDR: Including my pick of the news and other links in my checks around the news sites since 4am. Paying subscribers can see them all below the fold.In Aotearoa’s political economyBrown vs Fish Read more ...
TLDR: Including my pick of the news and other links in my checks around the news sites since 4am. Paying subscribers can see them all below the fold.In Aotearoa’s political economyBrown vs Fish Read more ...
In other countries, the target-rich cohorts of swinging voters are given labels such as ‘Mondeo Man’, ‘White Van Man,’ ‘Soccer Moms’ and ‘Little Aussie Battlers.’ Here, the easiest shorthand is ‘Ford Ranger Man’ – as seen here parked outside a Herne Bay restaurant, inbetween two SUVs. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / ...
In other countries, the target-rich cohorts of swinging voters are given labels such as ‘Mondeo Man’, ‘White Van Man,’ ‘Soccer Moms’ and ‘Little Aussie Battlers.’ Here, the easiest shorthand is ‘Ford Ranger Man’ – as seen here parked outside a Herne Bay restaurant, inbetween two SUVs. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / ...
Transport Minister and now also Minister for Auckland, Michael Wood has confirmed that the light rail project is part of the government’s policy refocus. Wood said the light rail project was under review as part of a ministerial refocus on key Government projects. “We are undertaking a stocktake about how ...
Sometime before the new Prime Minister Chris Hipkins announced that this year would be about “bread and butter issues”, National’s finance spokesperson Nicola Willis decided to move from Wellington Central and stand for Ohariu, which spreads across north Wellington from the central city to Johnsonville and Tawa. It’s an ...
They say a week is a long time in politics. For Mayor Wayne Brown, turns out 24 hours was long enough for many of us to see, quite obviously, “something isn’t right here…”. That in fact, a lot was going wrong. Very wrong indeed.Mainly because it turns ...
One of the most effective, and successful, graphics developed by Skeptical Science is the escalator. The escalator shows how global surface temperature anomalies vary with time, and illustrates how "contrarians" tend to cherry-pick short time intervals so as to argue that there has been no recent warming, while "realists" recognise ...
Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTLDR: Here’s a quick roundup of the news today for paying subscribers on a slightly frantic, very wet, and then very warm day. In Aotearoa’s political economy today Read more ...
Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTLDR: Here’s a quick roundup of the news today for paying subscribers on a slightly frantic, very wet, and then very warm day. In Aotearoa’s political economy today Read more ...
Tomorrow we have a funeral, and thank you all of you for your very kind words and thoughts — flowers, even.Our friend Michèle messaged: we never get to feel one thing at a time, us grownups, and oh boy is that ever the truth. Tomorrow we have the funeral, and ...
Lynn and I have just returned from a news conference where Hipkins, fresh from visiting a relief centre in Mangere, was repeatedly challenged to justify the extension of subsidies to create more climate emissions when the effects of climate change had just proved so disastrous. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The ...
Lynn and I have just returned from a news conference where Hipkins, fresh from visiting a relief centre in Mangere, was repeatedly challenged to justify the extension of subsidies to create more climate emissions when the effects of climate change had just proved so disastrous. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The ...
A new Prime Minister, a revitalised Cabinet, and possibly revised priorities – but is the political and, importantly, economic landscape much different? Certainly some within the news media were excited by the changes which Chris Hipkins announced yesterday or – before the announcement – by the prospect of changes in ...
Currently the government's strategy for reducing transport emissions hinges on boosting vehicle fuel-efficiency, via the clean car standard and clean car discount, and some improvements to public transport. The former has been hugely successful, and has clearly set us on the right path, but its also not enough, and will ...
Buzz from the Beehive Before he announced his Cabinet yesterday, Prime Minister Chris Hipkins announced he would be flying to Australia next week to meet that country’s Prime Minister. And before Kieran McAnulty had time to say “Three Waters” after his promotion to the Local Government portfolio, he was dishing ...
The quarterly labour market statistics were released this morning, showing that unemployment has risen slightly to 3.4%. There are now 99,000 people unemployed - 24,000 fewer than when Labour took office. So, I guess the Reserve Bank's plan to throw people out of work to stop wage rises "inflation", and ...
Another night of heavy rain, flooding, damage to homes, and people worried about where the hell all this water is going to go as we enter day twenty two of rain this year.Honestly if the government can’t sell Three Waters on the back of what has happened with storm water ...
* Dr Bryce Edwards writes – Prime Minister Chris Hipkins continues to be the new broom in Government, re-setting his Government away from its problem areas in his Cabinet reshuffle yesterday, and trying to convince voters that Labour is focused on “bread and butter” issues. The ministers responsible for unpopular ...
Prime Minister Chris Hipkins continues to be the new broom in Government, re-setting his Government away from its problem areas in his Cabinet reshuffle yesterday, and trying to convince voters that Labour is focused on “bread and butter” issues. The ministers responsible for unpopular reforms in water and DHB centralisation ...
Hi,It’s weird to me that in 2023 we still have people falling for multi-level marketing schemes (MLMs for short). There are Netflix documentaries about them, countless articles, and last year we did an Armchaired and Dangerous episode on them.Then you check a ticketing website like EventBrite and see this shit ...
Nanaia Mahuta fell the furthest in the Cabinet reshuffle. Photo: Lynn Grieveson/Getty ImagesTLDR: PM Chris Hipkins unveiled a Cabinet this afternoon he hopes will show wavering voters that a refreshed Labour Government is focused on ‘bread and butter cost of living’ issues, rather than the unpopular, unwieldy and massively centralising ...
Nanaia Mahuta fell the furthest in the Cabinet reshuffle. Photo: Lynn Grieveson/Getty ImagesTLDR: PM Chris Hipkins unveiled a Cabinet this afternoon he hopes will show wavering voters that a refreshed Labour Government is focused on ‘bread and butter cost of living’ issues, rather than the unpopular, unwieldy and massively centralising ...
Shortly, the absolute state of Wayne Brown. But before that, something I wrote four years ago for the council’s own media machine. It was a day-in-the-life profile of their many and varied and quite possibly unnoticed vital services. We went all over Auckland in 48 hours for the story, the ...
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Pity the poor Brits. They just can’t catch a break. After years of reporting of lying Boris Johnson, a change to a less colourful PM in Rishi Sunak has resulted in a smooth media pivot to an end-of-empire narrative. The New York Times, no less, amplifies suggestions that Blighty ...
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Wayne Brown managed a smile when meeting with Remuera residents, but he was grumpy about having to deal with “media drongos”. Photo: Lynn Grieveson/Getty ImagesTLDR: In my pick of the news links found in my rounds since 4am for paying subscribers below the paywall:Wayne Brown moans about the media and ...
Wayne Brown managed a smile when meeting with Remuera residents, but he was grumpy about having to deal with “media drongos”. Photo: Lynn Grieveson/Getty ImagesTLDR: In my pick of the news links found in my rounds since 4am for paying subscribers below the paywall:Wayne Brown moans about the media and ...
Dr Bryce Edwards writes – Last night’s opinion polls answered the big question of whether a switch of prime minister would really be a gamechanger for election year. The 1News and Newshub polls released at 6pm gave the same response: the shift from Jacinda Ardern to Chris Hipkins ...
Hipkins’ aim this year will be to present a ‘low target’ for those seeking to attack Labour’s policies and spending. Photo: Lynn Grieveson/Getty ImagesTLDR: Anyone dealing with Government departments and councils who wants some sort of big or long-term decision out of officials or politicians this year should brace for ...
Hipkins’ aim this year will be to present a ‘low target’ for those seeking to attack Labour’s policies and spending. Photo: Lynn Grieveson/Getty ImagesTLDR: Anyone dealing with Government departments and councils who wants some sort of big or long-term decision out of officials or politicians this year should brace for ...
Last night’s opinion polls answered the big question of whether a switch of prime minister would really be a gamechanger for election year. The 1News and Newshub polls released at 6pm gave the same response: the shift from Jacinda Ardern to Chris Hipkins has changed everything, and Labour is back ...
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The clean up has begun but more rain is on the way. Photo: Lynn Grieveson/Getty ImagesTLDR: Auckland’s floods over the last three days are turning into a macroeconomic event, with losses from Aotearoa’s biggest-ever climate event estimated at around $500 million and Auckland’s schools all closed for a week until ...
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TLDR: Here’s the key news links and useful longer reads I’ve spotted since 4 am this morning, including:calls for a more ‘spongey’ urban infrastructure after Auckland’s floods;demands for an inquiry into Auckland Council’s communications failure;the latest on Chris Hipkins’ plans for Three Waters; inside the PR trainwreck that is Wayne ...
TLDR: Here’s the key news links and useful longer reads I’ve spotted since 4 am this morning, including:calls for a more ‘spongey’ urban infrastructure after Auckland’s floods;demands for an inquiry into Auckland Council’s communications failure;the latest on Chris Hipkins’ plans for Three Waters; inside the PR trainwreck that is Wayne ...
Mayor Wayne Brown, under fire for his communication failures, quietly visited the scene of the fatal Remuera slip on Sunday, with his staff taking photos for social media updates. Photo: Lynn Grieveson/Getty ImagesTLDR: The cleanup and the post-mortem have begun, even though the rain just keeps falling in Auckland after ...
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The Green Party is joining more than 20 community organisations to call for an immediate rent freeze in Tāmaki Makaurau Auckland, after reports of landlords intending to hike rents after flooding. ...
When Chris Hipkins took on the job of Prime Minister, he said bread and butter issues like the cost of living would be the Government’s top priority – and this week, we’ve set out extra support for families and businesses. ...
The Green Party is calling on the Government to provide direct support to low-income households and to stop subsidising fossil fuels during a climate crisis. ...
The tools exist to help families with surging costs – and as costs continue to rise it is more urgent than ever that we use them, the Green Party says. ...
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The Government is unlocking an additional $700,000 in support for regions that have been badly hit by the recent flooding and storm damage in the upper North Island. “We’re supporting the response and recovery of Auckland, Waikato, Coromandel, Northland, and Bay of Plenty regions, through activating Enhanced Taskforce Green to ...
Prime Minister Chris Hipkins has welcomed the announcement that Her Royal Highness The Princess Royal, Princess Anne, will visit New Zealand this month. “Princess Anne is travelling to Aotearoa at the request of the NZ Army’s Royal New Zealand Corps of Signals, of which she is Colonel in Chief, to ...
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25 cents per litre petrol excise duty cut extended to 30 June 2023 – reducing an average 60 litre tank of petrol by $17.25 Road User Charge discount will be re-introduced and continue through until 30 June Half price public transport fares extended to the end of June 2023 saving ...
The strong economy has attracted more people into the workforce, with a record number of New Zealanders in paid work and wages rising to help with cost of living pressures. “The Government’s economic plan is delivering on more better-paid jobs, growing wages and creating more opportunities for more New Zealanders,” ...
The Government is providing a further $1 million to the Mayoral Relief Fund to help communities in Auckland following flooding, Minister for Emergency Management Kieran McAnulty announced today. “Cabinet today agreed that, given the severity of the event, a further $1 million contribution be made. Cabinet wishes to be proactive ...
The new Cabinet will be focused on core bread and butter issues like the cost of living, education, health, housing and keeping communities and businesses safe, Prime Minister Chris Hipkins has announced. “We need a greater focus on what’s in front of New Zealanders right now. The new Cabinet line ...
Prime Minister Chris Hipkins will travel to Canberra next week for an in person meeting with Australian Prime Minister, Anthony Albanese. “The trans-Tasman relationship is New Zealand’s closest and most important, and it was crucial to me that my first overseas trip as Prime Minister was to Australia,” Chris Hipkins ...
The Government is providing establishment funding of $100,000 to the Mayoral Relief Fund to help communities in Auckland following flooding, Minister for Emergency Management Kieran McAnulty announced. “We moved quickly to make available this funding to support Aucklanders while the full extent of the damage is being assessed,” Kieran McAnulty ...
As the Mayor of Auckland has announced a state of emergency, the Government, through NEMA, is able to step up support for those affected by flooding in Auckland. “I’d urge people to follow the advice of authorities and check Auckland Emergency Management for the latest information. As always, the Government ...
Ka papā te whatitiri, Hikohiko ana te uira, wāhi rua mai ana rā runga mai o Huruiki maunga Kua hinga te māreikura o te Nota, a Titewhai Harawira Nā reira, e te kahurangi, takoto, e moe Ka mōwai koa a Whakapara, kua uhia te Tai Tokerau e te kapua pōuri ...
Carmel Sepuloni, Minister for Social Development and Employment, has activated Enhanced Taskforce Green (ETFG) in response to flooding and damaged caused by Cyclone Hale in the Tairāwhiti region. Up to $500,000 will be made available to employ job seekers to support the clean-up. We are still investigating whether other parts ...
The 2023 General Election will be held on Saturday 14 October 2023, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announced today. “Announcing the election date early in the year provides New Zealanders with certainty and has become the practice of this Government and the previous one, and I believe is best practice,” Jacinda ...
Jacinda Ardern has announced she will step down as Prime Minister and Leader of the Labour Party. Her resignation will take effect on the appointment of a new Prime Minister. A caucus vote to elect a new Party Leader will occur in 3 days’ time on Sunday the 22nd of ...
The Government is maintaining its strong trade focus in 2023 with Trade and Agriculture Minister Damien O’Connor visiting Europe this week to discuss the role of agricultural trade in climate change and food security, WTO reform and New Zealand agricultural innovation. Damien O’Connor will travel tomorrow to Switzerland to attend the ...
The Government has extended its medium-scale classification of Cyclone Hale to the Wairarapa after assessing storm damage to the eastern coastline of the region. “We’re making up to $80,000 available to the East Coast Rural Support Trust to help farmers and growers recover from the significant damage in the region,” ...
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Anadarko has started drilling for oil off the coast of Raglan.
Another nail in the coffin for New Zealand’s reputation as a leader in environmental matters.
A sad day.
YEAH to Greenie Jeanette Fitzsimons!!!!! …..former Green Party Leader and Green activist and researcher….What a gem of a woman!…what a hero she is…out there on the deep seas fighting against unsafe oil drilling off the coast of New Zealand. She makes me proud to be a New Zealander and proud to be a woman!
…..and also a big Yeah for Bunny McDairmaid( Greenpeace)!!!! …what a New Zealand hero she is! ….skipper of SV Tiama tracking the oil drilling ship Noble Bob Douglas
http://www.greenpeace.org/new-zealand/en/blog/Bunny-McDiarmid/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeanette_Fitzsimons
What fabulous women environmentalists!
Well said, chooky ! +1000%
Yep, agree 100% Chooky.
Great people with the courage of their convictions.
However when does it end how can we beat these Right Wing selfish greedy bastards .
We no sooner win one battle up up they come with some other ghastly scheme. However as the late Joe
Totally agree with Paul!
Unsure how a Government representing a country who has signed the Kyoto Protocol can stand up for deep sea drilling or any further drilling or extraction of fossil fuels which in turn create greenhouse gases.
When Simon Bridge’s grandkids are running around with masks on to survive, he may see the error of his ways and thinking. Good for NZ? He is supposed to be an intelligent man, and I suspect far more educated than the role model John Key that he appears to idolise.
The fact of the matter (quoting Simon), is that even with the stringent compliance necessary, New Zealand could not cope with an oil spill, and the events off Tauranga give evidence to the problems encountered and that was only small scale.
This Government and subsequent governments, should be promoting and investing in alternative energy, do their homework (what they get paid for) and see the reality of the contributions people such as Kessler have given to the world.
We could be World leaders yet again with inventing and promoting alternative energy sources.
Time for present and forward Governments to stop and think about the decisions they are making, and stop focusing on the short term monetary gains.
Global warming is happening, fossil fuels are contributing, let’s get behind positive steps to reduce fossil fuel extraction and hence useage and become part of the solution and not part of the problem.
The argument of “did you drive your car today” is only a valid argument if alternate modes of transport were freely available. I am sure if alternative green fuels were available, they would be the peoples choice.
So yes I agree…A sad day!
These are sad days indeed, and it benefits people to be real about that. It’s scraping the bottom of the barrel time, socio-politically speaking. Seen footage of the air pollution in large Asian cities, looks like Blade Runner (which is being remade) to me.
nooo!!!
..they’ve killed off brian..!
..w.t.f..!!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/25/family-guy-beloved-character-dies-shocker-video_n_4335575.html
phillip ure..
Stewie will have to repair his time machine, in some future episode.
i hope so..i hope so..
..it has to be all just a bad dream/time-machine thing..
..brian is the show..
..i mean..if the writers are bored..kill off who brian calls ‘the fatman’..
..but not the dog..!
..phillip ure..
Family Guy is one of the reasons I no longer watch TV.
For me thats South Park what a load of rubbish that is But sorry Draco but FG is at least funny.
You know, I have literally never before encountered someone who sees it that way around. You know what you get if you subtract all the “this is just like the time when I ___” randomness out of Family Guy? A less subversive version of All in the Family.
All in The Family was out of it’s time.
FYI folks!
It’s Tuesday 26 November 2013, about 7am and I’m about to get dressed, finish packing bag and get bus to 488 George St Sydney to attend a full day workshop at the Australian Public Sector Anti-Corruption Conference.
Have trimmed over 700 ‘business’ (NOT) cards, ready to do ‘swapsies’ with as many of the fellow attendees as possible.
ACTIVISM 101 – GET THEIR NAMES! 🙂
Tonight is a net-working event, so it will be quite a big day.
I have printed off copies of the request Lisa Prager and myself have made to the NZ Serious Fraud Office, requesting an investigation for alleged bribery and corruption by Mayor Len Brown and Sky City (Auckland), to discuss with anti-corruption experts and any Australian media who may be interested.
(It seems that many people I’ve spoken to here are aware of the Auckland Mayor ‘sex scandal’.
However, the fact that there was NO ‘due diligence’carried out by Auckland Council on the increased risk of money-laundering, arising from the NZ International Convention Centre (or – as I prefer to call it – the Sky City ‘money-laundering’ ) Act 2013, whilst on Mayor Len Brown’s ‘watch’, doesn’t appear to be so widely known, probably because of what seems to be effectively a mainstream media ‘blackout’ on this story?).
Meant of course in a caring way 🙂
If you would like to see a copy of this SFO complaint folks, you can check out http://www.pennybright4mayor.org.nz
Cheers!
Penny Bright
‘Her Warship’ 😉
Go Penny!
It seems that the Anti finning legislation is just another Smoke and Mirrors load of bullshit from the Nats as it is going to be phased in, in 3 years. So much for conservation from the Nats.
“Lost in the touchy-feel good images was the fine print: New Zealand’s intention to ban the practice is three years away and is only a proposal.
Conservationists worried about the status of many of our 113 shark species say there is no justification for the phase-in and fear fishing industry proponents will use a consultation period to water down the plan.”
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11161466
The whole approach to managing New Zealand’s fisheries needs a rethink.
From protecting all identified spawning areas to through to ensuring only New Zealander’s own and run the fishing boats. Dont get me started on longlines and bottom trawling.
I see that cameras on fishing boats are to be phased in over the next 2 years to help combat dumping. Its a band aid.
and from a vegan point of view..’don’t get me started’ on the similarities between the central nervous systems of fish and humans..
..and what the horrors for them of death from a hook thru the mouth..
..followed by suffocation and/or a head-bash..
.. must be like..
..eh..?..
..phillip ure..
I’m ok with eating dead things, though these days I comsume very little meat. A result of the change in my eating habits when I was a vegetarian.
I’m also of the belief that if you do not have the stomach to kill it, you should not eat it.
So, I’ve killed and eaten possums, chickens, duck, rabbits, goat, and fish. It’s the butchering I find more troubling than actually ending the animals life.
I’ve not killed a deer, pig, sheep or cow.
I’d like to see study of food sources including trips to farms and freezing works as part of the curriculum for every secondary school student so they can at least make properly informed decisions about what they eat.
@naturesong..
..i agree with yr last paragraph..
..and..so..yr ‘naturesong’ is a funeral dirge for the animals you eat..?
..and can i ask why you went veggo in the first place..?
..how long for..?
…and why you resumed carnivorous ways..?
..just curious..eh..?
..phillip ure..
I started eating mostly as a vegetarian when I was flatting with a couple of friends who were veges.
At that time, I’d eat meat when I visited my parents or sometimes when I went out.
I then turned full vegetarian when I shifted and started living with with what can only be described as a bunch of hippies.
Intelligent, informed, artistic, curious and healthy both in mind and body. Wonderful people.
It was the start of a great deal of learning for me, not only in food, but emotional health, group or tribal health.
All up I lived as a vegetarian for about 6 years.
I started eating meat again when I left New Zealand and lived in various places overseas. I found it difficult to maintain being a vegetarian as a single travelling person, though I did meet people along they way that managed it.
Not eating meat for me was never a moral decision as it is with some people.
Since I returned to New Zealand, I’ve not resumed a vegetarian lifestyle, and continue to eat meat about once per week.
You probably won’t believe this but I agree with you
I think we should eat a lot more possums. I tried it once and was vaguely impressed. It might be a good way of controlling their numbers and giving our native flora and fauna a bit more of a chance. I agree with you about trips to farms and meat works, especially battery hen factories and pig torture facilities. Dairy farms might be good as well, just to see the damage being done to the waterways.
I’m sure its only a matter of time until science gives us some ethical reasons not to be eating plants.
Whatcha gonna do then?
I don’t think the word ethics means what you think it does.
Really? I thought it meant something like – ” involving questions of right and wrong behavior : relating to ethics”
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ethical
Are you telling me vegans and vegetarians don’t consider eating meat as a question of right and wrong?
Some vegetarians choose that path due to their moral or ethical outlook.
However neither ethics nor morality are the result of empirical evidence or controlled experiments.
Yet people claim that fish can’t feel pain (or animals can’t feel emotion) and use science to back that up. Some scientists support that using the scientific method.
Probably not have the same energy that I have now to reply to such an idiotic and useless comment by you, clashman.
Oh dear. Phillip I think of this often when I eat fish. I reached my 30th anniversary of being vego last year. (I turned vego when I was 14) but have started eating fish occasionally. It’s gives me a protein burst that I seem to need more as I get older.
But what to do? The darlings suffer and we have a slack arse regulatory framework around marine protection, and I’m uncomfortable with being part of the problem It’s a quandary.
@ rosie..
“..But what to do? ..”
can i suggest a (considered) vegan diet..?
..if still consuming cheese/dairy..these are ‘heavy’ foods for the body to process..
..avocado and peanut butter are good sources of protein..
http://whoar.co.nz/?s=vegan+diet
(link has lots of other protein-source information..)
..there is one culinary thing i have to give the americans credit for..
..the peanut butter and jam combination..
..a good quality bread (toasted..)..with a good quality (not sugar-drenched) jam..overlaid with a healthy dollop of (extra crunchy)peanut butter..
..washed down with hot tea..is a fast-food heaven..
(and something weird is happening with me..i am getting urges to make (nut-laden) breads..and (not sugar drenched) jams..i dunno w.t.f. that is all about..)
phillip ure..
Thanks phillip 🙂
I did try vegan on and off for many of those years, it’s where my heart is at as far as the bovines are concerned (they are lovely animals) and for environmental reasons, but , oh! I have a terrible soft spot for cheese. Cheese and only cheese, out of all the variety of dairy products. Now days I try to avoid Fonterra products where possible and get goat cheese if I can ever afford it. About two thirds of my meals would be vegan.
Peanut butter – yes, the PIC;s one on wholegrain toast in the morning is a goer but PB + jam, I did give that a go as a teen but it felt a bit too Elvis for my tastes.
And avo’s. Regrettably they don’t agree with me. Regrettable because they are a great food and good in place of dairy fats.
I guess where I am now is in the place of a lapsed vego (pescetarian I think the word is)trying to mitigate the environmental and ethical impact of dietary requirements. And thats before my brand boycotts begin! Thats another level of avoidance due to not consuming food from corporates who have a track record of labour rights abuses.
(With apologies to TS readers for TMI)
and this one is a bit of a shocker for fans of the traditional kiwi-diet..
..esp xmas dinner edition..(death by butter..!..)
http://whoar.co.nz/2013/heres-how-much-butter-it-takes-for-an-all-paula-deen-thanksgiving-beware-the-bog-standard-kiwi-tucker-diet-eh/
(paula deen is an american celebrity chef..famous for her super-unhealthy recipies..
..(she fries creamed-rice..(!)..whoar..!.eh..?)
..it also has gifs..one of dean saying ‘please forgive me’..
..and as far as that traditional kiwi diet is concerned..it’s not that far from deen..
..have you read the edmonds cookbook lately..?
..’holy buckets of sugar and butter..!..batman..!’..
..phillip ure..
Paula Deen on the flying stick of butter has always been one of my favourite gifs of her.
Rosie, you get protein from most things you eat, plants are actually quite high in protein.
No need to get it from animals at all. When did you last hear of someone in the western world suffering from protein deficiency? Cheese is hard to give up but you can buy vegan cheeses nowadays, some good, some not so good. I make cheeses from nuts, mainly cashews and they are delicious. Lots of recipes on google!
Nuts are excellent, in particular walnuts. They are often provided in the diets of elderly people who are unable to eat large portions; contain most minerals etc.
“..and what the horrors for them of death from a hook thru the mouth..
..followed by suffocation and/or a head-bash..
..must be like..
..eh..?..”
Probably similar to the small creatures that get half chopped by the harvesting machines and then die slowly in the fields of grains and beans that provide the food you eat.
And I can imagine just how faulty those cameras will end up being.
Trillions of dollars worth of oil and gas simply waiting to be extracted. Anadarko are prepared to spend 1 million dollars a day to look for this oil. They obviously believe it is there. They will drill for 70 days and may well draw a blank (90% chance). Such is life. If they do strike oil then we all win. On Waitangi Day we may discover that New Zealand is richer than it is today
Or poorer. Depends on the costs, which do not figure in your analysis. A bit like those housing market models that do not allow for decreases in housing value.
The protest flotilla (six tiny boats) have given up and are on the way back to port already. The High Court cannot stop a perfectly legal activity. Roll on Waitangi Day when we can all discover if we are wealthier.
So, if they do discover oil.
How much wealthier will we be?
And given that there is a 1/20 chance of a spill, when there is a spill, how much wealthier will we be?
The Cunliffe was trying to claim there was a 70% chance of spill. You are now trying to claim that there is just a 5% chance, That figure is not believable as it not the Norwegian UK or USA experience at all. The Gulf of Mexico is still cleanly producing loads of oil and profits to the USA.
Not to the USA…to a small group of corporate scum only.
Don’t be such a fool. The Arabs sell oil correctly. Silly old New Zealand and USA just give it away to corporate scum bags
Questions for all who object to drilling and petroleum exploration.
Do you use an automobile?
Do you intend to keep using an automobile?
Do you use digital / electronic goods?
Do you eat cheap packaged foods?
I could carry on. If you want to stop it the only way is to stop consuming and using petrochemical products…which you will find pretty much impossible to do. We are all culpable, to change we need to embrace alternatives now, and cut our whole life expectations. If not, well we are fucked.
I have an automobile and use it when public transport, walking and cycling is inconvenient. One of the main considerations when buying my house was so that walking, cycling and public transport was most convenient.
So, I take the train to the city, use my bike or walk for shopping, and use my car when I go to the coromandel.
Yes, I use digital / electronic goods. I’m quite keen to see oil subsidies and tax breaks redirected toward research in alternative materials.
Very few of my foods are cheap.
I bake my own bread and grow vegetables. When shopping I have a couple of bags I reuse.
Unfortunately, so many things are wrapped in plastic these days, it’s very difficult to avoid.
That’s only half the equation.
As Naturesong points out, existing in society without using oil (directly or indirectly) is pretty near impossible for us as individuals.
But the very fact that oil companies are finding it commercially viable to drill so deep or mine crappy oil sands demonstrates that the “low hanging fruit” is running out, oil-wise. Refusing to endanger other industries and the environment by desperately drilling the last drops makes oil even more expensive, so R&D into fossil-fuel replacements becomes more commercially viable and accelerates the society-wide transition away from oil.
We can’t stop using oil in our daily lives.
We can try to stop drilling more of it, though.
it’s a case of +2 degrees, or +6 (no squiggly approx. key). 😛
It’s not impossible though, is it? So get started. Lead the way as the left like to say.
I’m pretty sure it is impossible in this society, especially if someone’s on an average income.
But I certainly try to limit the amount of fossil fuels I am responsible for.
Yes, almost everything available today uses oil in its construction but most oil drilled is used for transport (69% to 97%).
I’m not really against drilling for oil, I just think we should use it for better purposes than transport especially in NZ where it’s possible to produce enough electricity to power transport. We may have to get rid of private motor vehicles but that’s ok because they’re a massive waste of resources anyway.
I had a feeling you would not engage honestly. You have 2 logical fallacies here; ad hominam where you cast David Cunliffe as economical with the truth, and then use that as a red herring to avoid adressing either of my points.
David Cunliffe did not claim there was a 70% chance of a spill.
He produced documentation that showed there was a 70% chance of a reportable incident
Amy Adams put forward the strawman that he was talking about spills. I see you are repeating that willful and dishonest mis-interpretation.
The incidence of spills in ultra-deep water (greater than 1500m) are about 1 in 19 (24 spills from 465 wells).
So, back to the question.
If oil is discovered, how much wealthier will we be?
And when an oil spill happens, how much wealthier will we be?
A spill of 50 -100 barrels of oil 100km off shore means diddly squat.
like your comments, fistiani.
A spill of thousands of barrels means quite a lot.
Your hero Key wants to gamble with over $15b in annual revenue from tourism and fisheries for the sake of a drilling rig that probably won’t match that in its operational life.
Maybe thats the Nats plan, ruin the tourism industry and then the Bankers and other thieves, can come in and make us slaves to the rich in our own country.
“Confessions of an economic hitman…”
More diversion and red herrings.
Please show us all where you get the idea that a spill off the coast of Raglan will magically stop once 100 barrels have been spilt?
But first;
If oil is discovered, how much wealthier will we be?
And when an oil spill happens, how much wealthier will we be?
Your link to spills were spills of just over 50 barrels.
How much wealthier will we be? Just ask the citizens of the Arabian states with oil.
IF a tiny oil spill occurs not a cent less wealthier.
“How much wealthier will we be? Just ask the citizens of the Arabian states with oil.”
So not wealthier at all, unless we’re members of the elite? Good to know.
That’s the bit that completely eludes the average RWNJs. They go on about how better off we will be and ignore the fact that it will only be the 1% at the top that will be better off.
Spills less than 50 barrels were not included.
The document includes spills from 50 barrels up but to 4.9 million barrels.
However, we can only assess the likely hood of a spill with this data, not the extent of the damage. For that we would turn to modelling of what a spill would look like in our region of the world.
Andarko have refused to release the modelling, and only say
Now, comparing Saudi Oil to New Zealand.
More than 95% of all Saudi oil is produced on behalf of the Saudi Government by the parastatal giant Saudi Aramco.
So, they get to keep their oil, and being a leader in OPEC as well owning 18% of the worlds oil, they get it all on their own terms.
And were you aware that they are currently trying to diversify their economy. Why would they need to do that?
New Zealand on the other hand, with “Lets make a deal” Key ….
we get either;
5% AVR, that is 5% of the net revenues obtained from the sale of petroleum
or
20% APR, that is 20% of the accounting profit of petroleum production.
So, after the stuff is extracted shipped, processed or onsold, and the accountants go though it, we get royalties.
Whats the bet that the company makes an accounting loss, or ends up with token net revenues?
How much would you pay an accounting firm to ensure that happens?
Also, since there are enough known oil reserves in the world, that if we extracted them all and burnt the stuff, we’d literally cook ourselves. So, whatever oil was discovered, we cannot use all of it.
Oh, and for that pittance we assume all the risk of a spill, the cost of a clean up, the destruction of our fisheries, tourism, and Clean Green Image.
The image alone is valued in the region of 30B per year, every year.
So, again, how much wealthier will we be?
The wealth is not found in a polluting, dying industry.
The wealth is in clean energy solutions.
The right prefer “Key facts” which are mainly lies and misleading.
Are their wells owned by an overseas company?
when did he claim 70% chance of a spill? Link?
Great to see all that profit for the US and A. How much more before they’ll be able to house all their people? It wouldn’t cost that much, there are plenty of empty houses. Maybe they could fuel buses to transport homeless people to the empty houses. Ah, the wonders of profit!
As per normal the RWNJ fails to realise that the resource is more valuable than the electronic dollars.
It’s bizarre isn’t it. It’s like collecting points from a pin ball machine.
But if he gets more points than anyone else he wins!!!!!
He who dies with the most points…
Worse than that, they can’t even figure out the value in electronic dollars.
According to Wikipedia, NZ has oil reserves of 534 million barrels.
At $1-200 per barrel, I make that $50-100bil.
If the new deep sea exploration doubles NZ’s oil reserves, that’s maybe $200bil. “Trillions” my arse.
Not just nowhere near “trillions”, but only ten or fifteen years worth of tourism income alone – income that even the existence of exploration can endanger, let alone a moderate spill.
The conversation we are having about wealth and dollars is totally redundant: who gives a flying fuck if the oil extraction ends up killing the planet how many $s you made?
Yep.
We’re willing to sacrifice the NZ children and youth of today for the sake of trying to balance out electronic ledger entries.
So I think that the ‘wrong’ ethos is very well established.
With all of the 5% of the royalties. woohoo.
As Xtasy has painstakingly pointed out this government has been taking advice from UK advisors on how to deal with the sick and disabled. It also is practising a sanctions regime on the unemployed which I believe is being copied from the UK system. Over there it’s all got to the level of persecution of Beneficiaries as soon as they slip up or rightly refuse to not do workfare.
The extreme it’s got to over there is illustrated by this case :
“Half-blind woman crippled with back pain killed herself after benefits bosses stopped her disability payments – following a TWO MINUTE assessment
Jacqueline Harris, 53, was told she was fit to return to work
Widow was partially sighted and only able to walk with the aid of sticks
Christine Norman claims benefits ruling drove her sister to kill herself”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2513284/Half-blind-woman-crippled-pain-killed-benefits-bosses-stopped-disability-payments–following-TWO-MINUTE-assessment.html
And here in NZ:
“Winz forces Hamilton family to prove sons still disabled
‘To have to prove this is silly’ ”
http://www.stuff.co.nz/waikato-times/news/9437301/Winz-forces-Hamilton-family-to-prove-sons-still-disabled
The harassing condition is as follows one which is patently ludicrous: “Winz threatened to put a stop to disability payments for their two teenaged boys unless they could prove they still have their condition.”
Dyson did it oo. Under her regime my brother in law had to be retested, presumably winz thought there was a cure for cerebral palsy
Both Labour and National Govts have been crap at this.
This morning Steven Joyce was commenting on Government expecting enterprises to estimate their needs for revenue for a future year so they approximate better to the actual amount. He said that public or private should be able to forecast correctly. I was remembering how he had to bail out MediaWorks which seemed an example of how difficult this is to do.
Tertiary educationals have had their buffer zone for repayment of over resourcing reduced from 3% to 1%. It must be hard to estimate right in this dynamic period of interesting times. So Government is squeezing these bodies for what reason? Trying to make provision of education harder? Along with a deep sense of distrust and distaste for any discipline other than an MBA with a PhD in how to extract millions of litres (dollars) from one lemon?
U.S. Methane Study Says Emissions 50 Percent Higher Than EPA Estimates
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/25/us-methane-study-emissions_n_4339308.html
and according to my recent sums – in dairy cows alone – we/n.z have the a population of 1.3 billion people in terms of shit and piss
1.3 billion
that is one seriously stat there..cnr joe..
‘1.3.billion’..
..fuck..!
..phillip ure..
@CnrJoe… would be very interesting to see the detail of this statistic. And there’s nary a sewage pond to be seen throughout Southland. Just lots of rivers literally turning to shite
Sure thing
1 dairy cow = 17-20 humans worth of shit
1.26 million dairy cows in the Waikato = 17 million peoples worth of shit
2012 – new zild dairy herd 6.5 million cows = 1.300 000 000 peoples worth of shit
And farts. And piss
For milk. MILK !
Only counting dairy cows.
Google it up
Thanks.
Will Fonterra pay for the cleanup? Unlikely since National Inc. nobbled the democratically elected ECan and other boards are stacked, and the RMA is being ‘streamlined’
Here we are all arguing the toss and anticipating the “Left” being in power! Reality check time. Heres’ real power (from http://www.theautomaticearth.com/whos-really-king-of-the-world-today/ )
Well, if you thought you’d seen all the madness and absurdity that could possibly come out of the financial system by now, you are definitely being caught on the wrong flat foot as we speak. And there can be no doubt that much more of this will be revealed as we go along. Jamie Dimon renting Buckingham Palace to celebrate his $13 billion settlement with US regulators is just the beginning, though it’s a pretty clear statement of just how untouchable too big to fail policies have made Wall Street and the City feel. And they don’t feel that way for nothing, in every sense of the word, count on it.
A Labour spokesman said this about the party at the Palace, which included appearances by the Royal Philharmonic and the English National Ballet: ““There is also the fact that this should be a special place. This is the home of the Queen. Where is it all going to end?“ Well, sir, maybe it’s time to wake up, because the new kings and queens of the world have taken over. And they intend to be loud and proud about it, like any group of conquerors throughout history ever did.
Stands our little attempts at “democracy” well on end do you think?
Fishy if oil is found in large quantities our currency will sky rocket in value then all farming and other exporters will become uneconomic
If oil is found in large quantities it would certainly raise the currency and make exporting difficult but not impossible. I have a Stressless recliner chair made in Norway for instance. It was expensive but absolute quality.The problem of being too affluent from oil riches could only arise under a National government. I for one would be happy to handle that crisis if and when it arises.
happy with 5% royalties or are you banging down National’s door urging them to truly follow Norway’s policy
dutch disease
plus NZ has proven totally incapable of managing our currency to a lower rate and thinks its OK to kill exporters to get cheap imported toys and fuel.
If the price of gas went down I reckon we would see a big uptick in the local economy — it would be fantastic to be oil independent like Norway
Energy is an effective tax on all activities and products in an economy. So you are right, but such an “uptick” is likely to make us more dependent on fossil fuels, not less, as we enjoyed another round of the good time ride.
wont anadarko send it all offshore? Like our best fruit and vegs, meat and seafood?
hahahahahaha
The only people who would be able buy stuff would be the people getting the money and that won’t be 99% of the population. The only people National care about is the rich and they will do everything that they can to make them richer at our expense.
Norwegians can make quality stuff because they train craftspeople. We used to, but now we have a service economy with people who would have done apprenticeships finding themselves on a minimum wage or a grudgingly paid pittance of a benefit. Apart from yachts, what do we still make? A high dollar when we sell milk powder and our most creative people have moved overseas is a disaster, but I suppose it’ll make the next lot of ministerial Beemers a bit cheaper.
+1
That’s it exactly. We don’t have an economy any more, we have a financial roulette wheel.
See Cunners is not going to buy back MRP, Meridian and Air New Zealand shares. Maybe he is not as crazy as the Standardistas hope he is.
But he’s not saying he won’t either. And markets hate uncertainty.
you do realise thats just key attempting to lay a very obvious trap?
Do you support the PM goading the opposition to behave irresponsibly?
Wasnt “show me the money” keys catch cry last time?
Isnt this now “go on, say something before you do your due dilligence”?
Did you spot that key claims its the oppositions money and not tax payer money?
Isnt waiting to see the state of the books before you commit to spending tax payer money a good idea?
Me – im less than impressed that our PM chose to use the media to engage in school yard taunts. Just how old is he? 12?
The one thing that I’d like to see is the governments books open to everyone in real time.
heh – and in the computer age – is there any reason why this cant be done?
Plenty of reasons why it wouldnt be done though
That he’s already fallen in to, because he’s a dumbass.
how exactly?
all ive heard him say is “yeah nah – your just trying to trap me so you can call me a profligate communist”
Many of the Standardistas, as you name them, don’t want Cunliffe to BUY back the shares either.
There have been many comments proposing that the shares should simply be cancelled, or taken back into state control with no compensation being paid at all.
BTFD mate
That’s not ideal and probably not necessary: you can just dilute the sons of bitches.
Damn right we do. Selling anybodies assets without their permission happens to be theft after all and receivers of stolen goods don’t get compensated.
yeah, lets see him try that.
Hope a new Government is not going to do a buy back – renationalisation without compensation makes much more sense since the assets belonged to the past and present taxpayers of New Zealand and not the Government. The salutary lesson might teach the greedies a valuable lesson that falls short of violent revolution. On second thoughts, the French peasants and their quaint revolutionary technology sounds far more exciting – especially since the wailing of the shareholders/ticket-clippers would be short lived.
If he’s not willing to be so rash as to commit to buy them back, then I think expecting him to take them back without compensation is a recipe for disappointment.
And CC, advocating murder of people you disagree with isn’t as hip as you think it is.
This is Hip pretty baby…
Not as hip as violent murder, apparently.
like fine wines and cheese, tones soften with age.
Murder, Gormy? lolz.
We are all one, mate. All part of the greater whole.
“This is not war; it is pest control!” http://youtu.be/vu6_IxkAHsI
Yeah. Murder lolz. The funniest lolz there are. I laughed and laughed. Cracks you up too, I see Felix.
Ever heard of hyperbole, Gormy?
Are we allowed to discuss legal penalties for heinous crimes?
Funnier than rape, ya reckon?
A functional definition of a psychopath is a person who cannot feel empathy for fellow human beings or shame or remorse for their atrocities and acts of cruelty. However, non-compliance with their schemes with whatever level of courage one has at any moment and educating others as to the shit really going down on this planet is the only effective course. Like many species of vermin, and the mythical vampires that they are, they can only function in the dark.
Sociopathic banksters won’t even get it when they’re waiting for their turn at the guillotine.
Richard S. Fuld Jr. of Lehman Brothers said. “I take it as a personal failure to lose money,” On the morning of March 17, 2008, justice would declare he should have been headed to prison instead of to work.
Richard Fuld, who early on that morning — at 5 a.m. — departed from his twelve-acre Greenwich estate with its twenty rooms, eight bedrooms, a tennis court, a squash court, and a pool house –one of five he owned—to be chauffer driven to deal with a possible run on banks and the bankruptcy of Bear Stearns, the smallest of Wall Street’s Big Five investment houses?
Richard Fuld who, among past winners of Fed largesse and insider information soon to be scapegoat along with Ken Lewis, on that morning was headed “right onto North Street toward the winding and narrow Merritt Parkway, headed for Manhattan”…starring “ out the window in a fog at the rows of mansions owned by Wall Street executives and hedge fund impresarios,” as described by Andrew Sorkin in Too Big to Fail?
Where “most of the homes had been bought for eight-figure sums and lavishly renovated during the second Gilded Age, which, unbeknownst to any of them, lest of all Fuld, was about to come to a crashing halt.”
And where now, all but a handful in the financial sector, thanks to U.S. taxpayers and the ownership of a printing machine, are still enjoying, on the streets where they live, a financial sector share of corporate profits that has risen to a new peak in the $450 billion range, according to the U.S. Dept. of Commerce, Bureau of Economic Analysis?
Starving the masses while feeding the banking machine with free printed (by electronic key strokes) money.
Hi Gormy, the lolz was at you you fool.
Crimes against humanity on a massive scale, the perpetuation of suffering and death, the oppression and subjugation of many for the profits of a few, none of this seems to register with you.
This ongoing, systematic violence and bloodshed goes unremarked upon, while you damn near faint with shock at the thought of anyone violently resisting these horrors.
Interesting moral compass you have there. Might want to get it re-calibrated though.
Someone’s compass needs recalibrating, I accept.
CC advocates guillotining people who bought shares in Air New Zealand. The same people that James Henderson was so deeply concerned at having lost a few bucks the other day.
I told him I thought that wasn’t as hip as he thought it was.
I am pretty happy with where my moral compass is on this score.
You might want to re-examine yours if you think that the privatising of 20% of the shares in an airline that you keep control of (and which the opposition planned to sell 10 years previously) is “ongoing, systematic violence and bloodshed” that requires beheadings.
Why is that someone many here deride as a RWNJ is talking sense while others are howling at the moon ?
Strange Days.
Because if the top 1% continue their extreme greed and exploitation much longer then the number of people suffering under poverty and war will reach a critical mass, the fabric of society will fall apart, and no amount of money will save them from sharing in the misery they have created
“You might want to re-examine yours if you think that the privatising of 20% of the shares in an airline that you keep control of (and which the opposition planned to sell 10 years previously) is “ongoing, systematic violence and bloodshed” that requires beheadings.”
Ah yes sorry Gormy, I forgot your rule about only looking at any given event in absolute isolation from every other event.
What is the reason shareholders in Air New Zealand are to be beheaded? Is it unrelated to their shareholding in Air New Zealand? Makes as much sense as anything else you’ve pronounced on this topic, I suppose.
Frightening!
http://www.globalresearch.ca/why-tepco-is-risking-the-removal-of-fukushima-fuel-rods-the-dangers-of-uncontrolled-global-nuclear-radiation/5359188
National’s full-on assault on democracy continues with an attempt to gut local democracy in Hawkes Bay in favour of a tiny , mayor plus nine member council for the entire Hawkes bay region. The autocratic and corporatist ambitions of Key and co know no bounds, they won’t be happy until the entire country is run by an unelected board of directors.
Local government amalgamation is a hot button issue in Hawkes Bay. Napier Mayor Bill Dalton was elected on a specific anti-amalgamation platform. looks like this is going to send Stuart Nash to parliament as Labour MP for Napier for sure.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/9443440/Panel-Merge-Hawkes-Bay-councils
Israel, Iran, and the Bomb
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/avi-benhur/israel-iran-and-the-bomb_b_4335626.html?
Some, Israeli Concerns (other than being kept under a bushel regarding negotiations).
http://www.dw.de/israels-fears-over-iran-nuclear-deal/a-17254067?maca=en-rss-en-world-4025-rdf
-“the greatest diplomatic victory of the Islamic Republic since the Khomeini revolution”
(and they have not forgotten Munich 😉 , or, have they).
“[Israel]…”a rabid dog” pronounced Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, just the other day over a cup-of-cha.
The Ayatollah’s comments are simply speaking to his local political base. Both this agreement, and the secret talks held with the US in the months leading up to it, would have needed the go ahead from the Ayatollah to have even occurred.
As for Israel – to an outsider there is a lot of internal political pressure building up in that country, and also it’s spent too long delivering huge financial costs and political liabilities to the US for very little in return eg. Palestinian settlement situation getting worse not better.
just ‘another day at the office’ Message you later.
-Shalom
“He may huff and puff ” but Netanyahu and Israel must now Go It Alone
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/robert-fisk-he-may-huff-and-puff-but-benjamin-netanyahu-is-on-his-own-now-as-nuclear-agreement-isolates-israel-8960766.html
-Robert Fisk, The Independent.
Can Americans can read?
Fairly straight forward I would’ve thought.
Thanks for that. Not Can the Can aye!
btw, Welcome to a counter- Empire Multitude producing commons through immaterial labour 😀
Covering their bases, Pentagon Sells $10.8B worth of Bunker-Busters to U.A.E and Saudis
http://rinf.com/alt-news/editorials/saudi-arabia-and-u-a-e-preparing-for-war-with-iran-major-purchases-of-bunker-buster-bombs-and-missiles-from-pentagon-2/?
Lord of War
a speculative Low down from Kiwipolitico : ‘nested game’.
Apparently this link.
Nice write up by Pablo
works my end D.
Your link only goes to the top of Kiwipolitico which is an active blog which means that the top article will change rapidly. My link goes to the actual article. This means that in a few months after the front page of Kiwipoliticao has changed people will still be able to find the article.
Thanks, had to be a reason; I only had a ‘man’ look . 😀
In-Alien Death Cult- Santa Muerte
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25032305?
😎
(“Alien technology and human stupidity, an unbeatable combination”- The Doctor).
Bryce Edwards gives Labour a clear path to eliminate the National backing Maori Party
http://liberation.typepad.com/liberation/2013/11/maori-party-and-te-tai-hauauru-a-sign-of-looming-defeat-.html
ae, ka pai.
that makes much more sense than any deal with the maori party..
..who after election..could well turn around and support national..again..
..best to wipe them out..and be done with it..
..ensure a progressive govt..
..and start effecting some poverty-busting changes..
..i cannot think of single reason why such a lab/mana arrangement is not a good-deal..
..both battling to the death in those maori seats makes absolutely no sense for either..
..phillip ure..
What happened to the Foreshore and Seabed issue anyway? Isn’t that the reason for the Maori Party to exist? Was a billion dollars for Whanau Ora a good investment?
Please take some time to consider isgning this. None of us knows when we, a friend or other loved one, from illness, accident, or age may be disabled.
The petition reads:
“We, the undersigned, request the House of Representatives to urgently take all appropriate measures to ensure full access to public and commercial buildings for disabled people especially for new buildings in the Christchurch rebuild”
For the Earthquake Disability Leadership Group this means equality in access and that all people, including those with disabilities are able to enter, exit and move through a building in the same way as everybody else does.
The link to the online petition is https://www.change.org/en-AU/petitions/we-request-the-government-urgently-take-all-appropriate-measures-to-ensure-full-access-to-public-and-commercial-buildings-for-disabled-people-especially-for-new-buildings-in-the-christchurch-rebuild
Isn’t this already on the books?
http://www.odi.govt.nz/what-we-do/built-environment/index.html
No, Joyce is taking the opportunity from the earthquake to save commercial developers money by not having to make their buildings accessible. It is intended to bring it in across NZ.
New proposed ammendments to evidence act passed cabinet. BUT I wonder if they will change much.
One is that victims willbe told in advance if their sexual history is going to come up. That may dissauade them from appearing and have the opposite effect.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11163028
The victims previous sexual history has no bearing upon their being raped. As such, it should be forbidden to bring it up in court or anywhere. In fact, there’s probably quite a bit that’s irrelevant to the allegation and should be banned from being asked – what the victim was wearing comes to mind as well.
I agree. The ONLY possible evidence that might be relevant is if she has been proven to be a liar about being reaped before BUT a defendants previous offending, even the same type of offending s not allowed in, so logically….
Tell me fellow Standard contributors am I the only one to feel rather uncomfortably at the way the parole appeals for Ewen MacDonald was arrived,at.
I do not for one minute think he is a very nice person but the fact is he was found not guilty.
However the Serious sensible mob still seem to have a lot to say regarding this case.
The police (may be influenced by the SS bunch ?) are not planning to investigate further ,yet there is one other person who is suspect and in my personal opinion there could be one other .
the results of his personality assessments do not make comforting reading. It’s not a long sentence relatively speaking.
Interesting you brought up the Scott Guy murder case Pink Postman. Does anyone else feel curious about the obsession the MSM have with this particular murder? There have been many equally bizarre murder inquiries – some of them unsolved – that have not received anything like the media attention this one has. Am I being a little precious when I look at the following:
1. Colour – white.
2. Status – well to do country folk with a farming background.
3. Good looking family.
4 Seemingly well educated and articulate.
4. National Party stalwarts.
Counter that with a brown skinned or white working class victim. Probably equally as bright if not brighter, but without the status symbol and few opportunities to make something of themselves. Tough bickies. Sorry n’ all that, but we’re not all that interested.
Has the Women’s Weekly factor is my observation Anne
@ anne..+1..
phillip ure..
been wondering the same thing… the good thing is Mrs Guy has escaped the focus.
he was not guilty of the murder of scott guy, he is in prison for his other acts. Which, on a pathological scale are pretty scarey.
I was appalled recently to see a farmer who deliberately broke the tails of 150 cows got 8 months home detention. Cruelty o animals is wrong per se, but is frequently a harbinger of violence toward humans…
MacDonald’s apparantly cavalier attitude may be on a list of behaviours of pathalogical folks…
such a SHAME . 😎
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/9443197/Anadarko-approval-error-in-law
– Everyone needs a hobby I suppose
Noanimals were harmed – a rather disturbing read.http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/feature/
Hobbit hater!
Think that the US policy of Quantitative Easing is crazy? Then check out these graphs of China’s inconceivable, unsustainable, reality distorting capital injection into Chinese banks.
In the past five years the total assets on US bank books have risen by a ‘paltry’ $2.1 trillion while over the same period, Chinese bank assets have exploded by an unprecedented $15.4 trillion hitting a gargantuan CNY147 trillion or an epic $24 trillion – some two and a half times the GDP of China!
Putting the rate of change in perspective, while the Fed was actively pumping $85 billion per month into US banks for a total of $1 trillion each year, in just the trailing 12 months ended September 30, Chinese bank assets grew by a mind-blowing $3.6 trillion!
So when you lose out on that purchase of a home to a Chinese buyer who bid 50% over asking sight unseen, with no intentions to ever move in, you will finally know why this is happening.
yes, I believe they’ve experienced property bubbles at home. The money moves on.
And that is why foreign ownership of NZ land and businesses need to be banned now. The way that things are going we will soon be serfs in our ow land as everything gets sold by the greedies for cash which is hot off the digital printing press.
Hooton says Labour + Greens support at 49% in a private poll. https://twitter.com/MatthewHootonNZ/status/405180720651321344
Where is the ‘spinner’ Hooten, i would like to know from which side of the spectrum the ‘private polling’ came,(where does this put National then, 39%???, i wasn’t expecting that until after the Christmas break when everyone has had a chance to stop and think)…
Slavoj Zizek commenting on that fat gutted shameful Mayor of Toronto. Rob Ford makes Boris Johnson look the height of human nobility.
Zizek says that the left has put aside its traditional concerns and allowed politics to be parodied, become a fun show with people like Rob Ford, being outrageous, and still getting support from, and he uses the word, ‘cynical’ political supporters.
Labour has focussed on gay rights and people’s rights too single-mindedly and disregarded its other concerns with a disastrous outcome.
Rob Ford’s left wing?
Or is his refusal to resign somehow the fault of same-sex marriage?
McFlock
I know you can be relied on to see through the glass darkly when it comes to feminiism or rape culture or gay rights or something that you can possibly take umbrage or create contention about. Did you look and listen to the link. Why don’t you specify his comment so we know what you are on about.
I think that the present bad situation for low income people with poor employment conditions, deteriorating everything might be what he had in mind when he said that Labour had failed to act to improve rights and the lives of all people which it says it is concerned about.
Did watch vid.
It was rambling shit.
Firstly, the left has not “put aside” traditional concerns. It has simply recognised that inequality and the alienation of the proletariat extend farther than the mere bank balance and rights of employees.
Secondly, the Rob Fords of the world are not the fault of the left. At worst, they are the fault of a neolib culture which means that such folk (John Banks for example) hang on to the pay cheque when even thirty years ago a person would have had the sense of shame and dignity to resign. If anything they help the left, being obvious canker sores of the “fuck you” ruling class.
And thirdly, if the more insecure members of “the left” concentrated on improving workers’ rights themselves rather than bitching that teh gayz and teh wimmins are getting too much attention, the world would be a better place in so many fucking ways.
Firstly, the left has not “put aside” traditional concerns. It has simply recognised that inequality and the alienation of the proletariat extend farther than the mere bank balance and rights of employees.
I think thoughtful left watchers consider that the focus of Labour has been on the far extensions of inequality and the nearer ones have been alienated.
And Zizek being a poseur Bill. He is as full of interesting ideas and thinking as you are. And I have a lot of respect for you, though I do not agree with all your ideas.
well scratched gw
Maybe they should be thoughtful left do-ers then.
You are so right McFlock!
I was going to reply with a list of moral failings of the Right but realised that a mud slinging exercise would be futile. And I do agree that Labour in the past has given too much focus on identity politics at the expense of addressing the dramatically worsening socio economic inequality in NZ.
Zizek is a poseur. End.
Neo-liberals, of which the Labour party still has way too many for my liking, are OK about extending human rights, so long as they don’t don’t conflict with, their running off with, “the money”.
Throwing progressives a few crumbs, like gay marriage, while they continue to burgle us.
We, however, are capable of multitasking!
There is no reason why we cannot address the rights of minorities, and other disadvantaged groups, along with the right to be free from poverty, and be fairly paid.
For example. gay rights, women’s rights and workers rights are not mutually exclusive. They are all part and parcel of a fair and decent society.
Might catch Cunliffe on this side of the ditch tomorrow, which explains the “unavailable for comment” back in the Land of the Long White Cloud?
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/9445575/Drilling-could-split-Labour
But, despite the broad church blah blah blah thing, what’s up with Shane Jones? Is there something I am missing? Commentators – help?
Labour deliberately or uncontrollably giving mixed messages?? Surely tactics and strategies are much better formulated with Cunliffe at the helm?
Shane has been, is, and will be, in the wrong party as long as he is in Labour. Time for the caucus and party to take the next step in terms of real change from within.
Only if we, not the government, choose to extend them that right.
And the reason for that would be because our oil refinery doesn’t refine our oil.
Yeah, I’d say that it was time for Shane Jones to wander off and join United Future where he could fully support National while saying that he isn’t.
lolz
DTB
Do we get our oil partly digested, from Singapore or such? Is Marsden Refinery not set up to process our own oil?
Ihave some malware adware stuff, you know that underlines stuff when you browse and if you hit it, it’s an ad… anyone got instructions for removal, that wont cost me?
From memory I used malwarebytes – free download, for a virus like that (put in false hyper links)
http://www.malwarebytes.org/
Thanks Bill, trying it now. Much appreciated.