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Open mike 27/01/2011

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  1. Jenny 1

    NZ Not For Sale Campaign

    TPPA Teach-In & Strategy Gathering

    Where and When

    10.00am – 4.00pm
    Sunday February 20th
    Community Law Centre
    281 Madras St

    Keynote Speakers

    Murray Horton
    Bill Rosenberg
    Jane Kelsey

    Being held on the first day of the US-NZ Partnership Forum (a secretive & select gathering of 120 US & NZ business and political “leaders”) in Christchurch the objective of the Teach-in is to assist in building a national campaign opposed the TPPA with an emphasis on a ‘people centred’ alternative to the neo-liberal agenda exemplified by the free trade ideology underpinning the TPPA.

    The intended outcome of the Teach-in is the consolidation of a national network and the development of the ‘Christchurch Declaration’ a response to the Wellington Declaration –a statement of an alternative agenda.

    Visit the dedicated webpage for more information.
    (This site is still being established – check it regularly for updates)

    Contribute to the “Christchurch Declaration”

    Either email us or join the Google group if you’d like to get involved in the drafting of the declaration –

    The NZ Not for Sale Campaign
    Box 2258, Christchurch

    • grumpy 1.1

      Bugger me! Is Murray Horton still alive, almost worth going to see him hobbling around with his Zimmer frame.

    • Jenny 1.2

      The interesting thing about the Transpacific Partnership Agreement, is that it specifically binds any government that signs up to it to the removal of all restrictions on foreign investment – on pain of massive fines levied on any signatory government that breaks the TPPA with any restriction on foreign investment.

      How does this square up against John Key’s claim that the privatisations he has announced will be limited to a minority shareholding with the government holding a 51% controlling share?

      Under the TPPA this restriction on foreign investment would be illegal.

      Does John Key know this?

      Is the government planning to not sign up to the TPPA?

      Or will after selling off our state assets will the government then announce that under the terms of their international agreements, they can’t enforce the 51% government shareholding after all?

  2. Here is the second Interview I did with Kevin Barrett about my research into 911 and how it could have been prepared.

    • Santi 2.1

      Here we go again, Dutch Einstein. Make the tin-foil hat a bit thicker, uh?

      • travellerev 2.1.1

        Hia Smarty pants,

        Recently a FOIA (freedom of information) request was judged in favour of the lawyer who started it which unearthed piles of video’s and photo’s which were kept secret by NIST. One of these video’s can be seen here. It is a low quality slow motion video of the collapse of WTC7.

        If you can explain to me how a building higher than the Auckland sky tower twice reinforced to withstand the impact of a nuclear blast can collapse from the bottom up in 6.5 seconds I’ll consider taking my tinfoil head of , OK?

        The only THREE steel framed buildings to ever collapse in a free fall speed of 6.5, 10 and 11 seconds without the help of a controlled demolition collapsed in New York on 9/11 2001. Two were hit by planes and one was hit by nothing. All suffered from minor carbon fuel fires and in fact the hole made by one of the planes was so cold that a young woman by the name of Edna Cintron could hold on to the steel and wave to the helicopter filming her. If you can explain to me how a steel framed building can collapse into free fall speed into a pyroclastic flow of molton iron and concrete dust allegedly because the steel core and outer structure of the building had become so hot it started to buckle and collapse while a women can hold on to the steel standing in the very hole made by the plane within an hour of the impact while having all her hair and clothes untouched by the inferno I will also consider removing my tinfoil head.

        WTC 7 which collapsed in the afternoon at 5:20 pm held the NY headquarters of the CIA, Giuliani’s bunker and the files of several high profile Walls street banking scandals such as the ENRON collapse (Something Merryl Lynch John Key’s bank at the time was involved in) if you can explain to me how 19 young men of Arab descent could have planned the collapse of that building making the number of violations of the laws of Physics and exceptional number three I will not only take of my tinfoil head but I will throw in my tinfoil protected bunker just for laughs.

        Until that time I’m happy were I am thank you.

        • The Baron

          I can’t believe I am asking this… but even if there is something in this conspiracy, would you please tell us why it all matters?

          • Colonial Viper

            Because the event was used as the basis of a massive and prolonged war, greatly increased military-industrial spending, and justification to spy on, detain and curtail the civil liberties of ordinary Americans (and others) across the world.

            There’s a few more reasons but thats a start.

          • travellerev

            Wow Baron,

            Thanks for asking.

            Here are few reasons why it still matters and why everybody should educate themselves:

            1/ Two wars, started motivated by the attacks, which if we are correct are illegal and the people engaged in them including our own Helen Clark and John Key should be in an international court for war crimes are still raging.

            2/ At least a million Iraqis were killed and eight million of them were displaced and thousands of children are born with malformations and cancers because in these wars Depleted Uranium was used by the tons. Hundreds of thousands of US soldiers are ill as a result. Thousands of US soldiers died in those wars. UK soldiers, Canadian soldiers, German soldiers and New Zealand soldiers died in those wars.

            3/ Not only did almost three thousand people from all different nationalities and religions die on the day 911 itself but an additional 70.000 people are ill or dying as a result of breathing in those toxic dust. It took them more than 9 years to be acknowledged with funding for the medical care.

            4/ At least one New Zealander died in the attack.

            New Zealand is engaged in an illegal war of aggression and genocide as a result of the attacks which is why it should matter to every New Zealander.

            5/ In the aftermath of the attack in a very short time laws were changed and voted in world wide taking away a multitude of freedoms and rights to protect us from them bad terrorists which we should be very worried about.

            6/ And last but not least. If we are right and a group other then 19 young Muslim males perpetrated this crime. Than they are powerful enough to shut down Norad, clean up the biggest crime scene in US history without so much as a criminal investigation and start two wars in retaliation. If that is so we have a big problem.

            Hope this answers your question.

            • Colonial Viper

              Hmmmm you did better than me 😀

            • Deadly_NZ

              Sorry to burst your bubble but apart from the SAS all troops in Afganistan are there to help rebuilding the infrastructure. Same as in Iraq because Helen rightly said NO when asked for troops to fight.

              • The SAS is involved in acts of war and quite openly so. In fact our own Rambo was given a $ 35.000 media training to sell us the war.

                Helen Clark send (“Non combatant” army engineers etc into Iraq which would not have been send there without the US invading Iraq making NZ complicit in this war.

                I we are correct both wars are illegal, immoral and wars of aggression and genocide.

                In both situations one can not claim non-involvement just because your soldiers are not in the frontline. That’s like a gang banger standing on the lookout while his bigger more dangerous mates are killing someone saying he wasn’t involved. Bullies only succeed because they have their sycophants and sleezebag followers helping them and providing them with support and alibis.

                By the way; DEADLY-NZ, jeez

              • KJT

                Yeah. You get a medal for rebuilding infrastructure. Right!

                Lets be honest. We are there to protect the USA’s oil supply because a free trade agreement for farming was dangled in front of us. Though anyone with half a brain would know cows will fly before US politicians offend their farming lobby.

              • Vicky32

                “but apart from the SAS all troops in Afganistan are there to help rebuilding the infrastructure.”
                Or so we’re told!
                But even if that’s the case, the SAS are not the only ones there – or the first..

  3. Olwyn 3

    Phil Goff’s hair dye was included in Stuff’s trivia quiz this morning.

    • Tigger 3.1

      But no mention of Key’s wig…oh sorry ‘hairpiece’.

      • Olwyn 3.1.1

        No, and no one has publicly set out to put that rumour to rest. But whenever I see him speak I cannot help but glance at the point where the discreet auburn ends and they grey sideburns begin.

      • travellerev 3.1.2

        It looked like one to me too the other day and a bad fitting one at that. I would have thought that a man of his means vain enough to plonk a guinea pig on his head to cover baldness would be prepared to spend some money for a proper transplant. LOL

  4. logie97 4

    Just flicked through the telephone directory and came across some family names of Mums and Dads. Mr and Mrs:
    Aldgate, Whitechapel, Hawkins, Hotchin, Walters, Hart, Johnstone, Watson, Cumberbatch Fay, Brierley, Gibbs, Walker, Crowe, Richwhite, Coney, Judge, Smith, Hill, Hubbard, Myers, Richardson, Thompson, Alan, … in fact there are hundreds of thousands of Mums and Dads in New Zealand. Silly me.

    captcha: meaning

      • logie97 4.1.1

        … perhaps you should take a closer look at some of those names. Mr Key talks about Mums and Dads in a cutesy you-and-me fashion.
        Of course, from his privileged position, he cannot become a “Mum and Dad” investor as it would be considered “conflict of interest.” For one who has “researched” other matters of import in the world, I would have thought you might have recognised some of these Mums and Dads names…

        • travellerev

          I am sorry, I recognised only a few and if I’m correct those are some of the most privileged bastards over here. I am from Dutch descent and have only lived here 5.5 years and some of these names don’t mean the same to me as you. I could probably give you a list of the same names from Europe and you’d be blind-sided too. So thank you for giving me a nudge in the right direction. Always willing to learn.

          • logie97

            … some but not all Mums and Dads were fortunate enough to have a “few spare” dollars to splash around in the last fire sale of New Zealand’s assets. Some but not all Mums and Dads were a little careless with “their” dollars post 1987 stock market crises. Some but not all Mums and Dads names crop up more often than others when there is a fire sale in the offing … and some but not all Mums and Dads manage to invest in property through trusts and other channels, so as to avoid conflicts of interest.

    • ianmac 4.2

      Thanks Logie97. I thought they would have been mums and dads living in our street but clearly there is no place for glamorous mansions round here!

  5. Olwyn 5

    A less than impressed piece by Brian Fallow in the Herald: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10702279

  6. I certainly hope that people don’t view this as an isolated incident, both major parties are up to their neck in this and it is about time we start switching off mainstream media propaganda and get real! The government is CRIMINAL, they have failed the people time and time again because it is part of a global agenda run by elite bankers. Do some research into world bank white papers that were leaked where they map out in detail how to take over nations using privatization and holding a gun to the head of any party that doesn’t go along with it in the form of higher interest rates.
    Lets do what Jesus did and throw out the bankers!

    Vinny Eastwood

    Talk Show Host
    http://www.thevinnyeastwoodshow.com Available at http://www.americanfreedomradio.com
    “In a world so full of madness, If you lose your sense of humour you’ll go friggin’ nuts, it’s the lighter side of genocide.”

    “If the mainstream media won’t do their job, don’t fight them, just replace them, because they are no longer relevant.”

    Film Maker
    “Putting in what the media leave out, Bringing you news from the front lines, New Zealands alternative Media. MR NEWS”

    [lprent: I redacted the e-mail address (we don’t want e-mail addresses onsite to reduce spam-bot loads). Had to have a close look at this message because it was in the spam queue and looked like a spam comment at first glance. You might want to consider how to make such comments look less like spam. ]

    • You guys should sometimes listen to this NZ online radio station. They have quit an impressive line up of National and international guests.

      Today it was Jason Bermas one of the “loose change” boys and last week it was Cindy Sheehan who lost her son in Iraq and is one of my all time anti war heroes.

  7. randal 8

    do ya feel lucky punk.
    well; do ya?

  8. Bunji 9

    David Parker Press Release.

    Good to see him hitting all the right notes. My prize for best LP press release so far this year!

    • Colonial Viper 9.1

      Yeah but it could still be much punchier. Parker starts his press release with a 30 word unpunctuated sentence for gawds sakes.

  9. Draco T Bastard 10

    High food prices will harm the New Zealand economy

    We model the impacts of these high food prices on New Zealand and find that any gains to our export sector are overshadowed by a reduction in household spending, resulting in a welfare loss of $3.3 billion or 2.0% of GDP for New Zealand.

    So, all those high prices that the farmers have been crowing about? Yeah, they’re going to hit the economy where it hurts. The majority of people and the country as whole will be worse off.

  10. Pascal's bookie 11

    Chris Matthews can be an arsehole at times, but this is just magnificent:


    Blasting the crap out of some poor Tea Party professional hack.

  11. M 13

    Think I’ve found someone who can outdo Key. This guy has to be the most cruel SOB I’ve read about in some time:

    ‘ “Everybody’s suffering,” Chandler said. “And here I am, not scrimping and saving at all, with no demoralizing periods of financial hardship, or frantic weeks living paycheck to paycheck. What about me, you know? Where’s my struggle?”

    “Everyone’s supposed to get a fair shake at this misery,” Chandler added. “Even incredibly wealthy people of privilege like me.”‘


    Wonder if JK will have some of his quotes put onto prayer cards.

  12. Colonial Viper 14

    Banker bashing: Wealthy JP Morgan Boss will not tolerate unfair portrayal of good bankers any longer

    Apparently big banks being able to lobby Government with big money is ‘democratic’. And bankers are now a victimised underclass labelled unfairly in society.


    • Rosy 14.1

      Awsome comments on this, most of them completely unsympathetic. But then he’s in a reviled industry. Theone I like best is this from snix:

      ‘Blanket fiduciary fraud is unfair .
      “I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world, no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of majority but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.
      -Woodrow Wilson, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES 1913 – 1921
      We should learn from history this is an international hijack of democracy that started many years ago’

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