Open mike 27/03/2014

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1. Tigger 1

   27 March 2014 at 8:04 am

   http://m.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11227106

   The National Party interference at Maori TV will end in tears, probably those of Maxwell who isn’t up to the job, let alone able to deal with the mess created by how he was appointed.

   I predict a year of unhappiness followed by him being paid to leave.

   Truly appalling. And don’t defend him. Anyone who worked with him at TVNZ will tell you he is bad news.
   • Lanthanide 1.1

     27 March 2014 at 8:54 am

     That article says a whole bunch of people are upset but doesn’t give any indication as to why.

     Why is this guy so hated?
     • Not a PS Staffer 1.1.1

       27 March 2014 at 9:56 am

       The smoking gun lies in this sentence of the article:

       “It also emerged that Maori TV did not take up an offer from TVNZ chief executive Kevin Kenrick to discuss the reasons for Mr Maxwell leaving his role as general manager of TVNZ’s Maori and Pacific unit last year.”

       Kendrick is a very experienced senior manager with Telecom and House of Travel roles behind him. To not accept such an offer is criminal negligence from a corporate governance perspective.

       This story has legs……….
       • tc 1.1.1.1

         27 March 2014 at 1:27 pm

         Hope so, Maori TV has made good progress and runs some great locally made shows it’d be a shame to have it go backwards under a nat crony conflict monkey like maxwell
     • Tracey 1.1.2

       27 March 2014 at 5:04 pm

       an article without substance…. omg
2. Philj 2

   27 March 2014 at 8:21 am

   Xox
   Looking like the medium is more important than the message, to misquote Marshall McLuhan. He was so right.
3. phillip ure 3

   27 March 2014 at 9:08 am

   national radio has confirmed the internet party will not commit to rolling key/national..

   ..so that is any mana/dotcom-deal dead in the water…

   ..(and i wonder how any ‘lefties’ working for dotcom..

   …are feeling about now..?.)
   • bad12 3.1

     27 March 2014 at 9:43 am

     Not quite right Phillip, the Internet Party ‘cannot’ at this point commit to not having anything to do with National, a party spokesperson said on RadioNZ National this morning that until they have the party registered, candidates selected, and policy finalized they cannot make any commitments,

     there is a subtle difference in the words ‘will not’ and ‘cannot’ that appears to have escaped you,

     Meanwhile Mana Party Prez Annette Sykes has said, also on RadioNZ National that Mana and the Internet Party have a number of policies in common but She is waiting to see what policy the Internet Party has for Beneficiaries befor talks could be progressed, while also saying that the position of the Internet Party at present would be cutting the time to reach any electoral arrangement down to a slim margin…
     • phillip ure 3.1.1

       27 March 2014 at 10:44 am

       yes..there was all of that equivocation..

       ..another obvious reading is that they want to see if they even ‘need’ the mana party…

       ..and..as armstrong noted.. if after an initial poll-boost..that support drops away/becomes less certain….

       ..and dotcom then turns to the mana party..

       ..the mana party will then be in a much stronger negotiating-position..

       ..but even the faint whiff of any possibility of the/any internet party mp’s doing a post-election deal with key..

       ..leaves this deal ‘dead’..

       ..(and of course..re any poll-ratings..dotcom/internet party should be wary of rightwingers playing those polls..

       ..to give him/them what would be a false sense of security…

       ..and suppport that would not replicate at the polling booths..

       ..if i was advising the right..i wd tell them to do that..)
       • phillip ure 3.1.1.1

         27 March 2014 at 11:10 am

         selwyn manning has done an informed piece over at the daily blog..

         http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2014/03/27/its-show-time-today-for-the-kim-dotcom-internet-party/
       • bad12 3.1.1.2

         27 March 2014 at 12:43 pm

         Yep Phillip, i wouldn’t go so far as pronounce the last rites over a Mana/Internet Party alliance just yet,(although with every announcement it seems less likely),

         i am surprised that there is an intimation,(from Vernon Small), that DotCom has ‘mused’ that he might be able to work with Slippery the Prime Minister,(does anyone have a link that shows any such musings),

         That is the number 1 sticking point of course for the Mana Party, number 2 would be can Mana/DotCom draw up a simple agreement where they have X number of policies that they will push hard in any Labour/Green +Mana/Internet Government,

         With an agreement to vote Legislation by Legislation on that which has not been discussed and agreed that would come befor the House were they part of such a Government,(already assuming that confidence and supply for Labour/Green would be a given),such an arrangement does not seem too far from being possible,

         Number 3 of course would be how would the ‘electoral spoils’ be divvied up, assuming Hone holds Te Tai Tokerau, and, Annette Sykes takes Waiariki from Flavell, my thought would be for Mana to negotiate around allowing the next spot in the Alliance to go to DotCom and the next two spots to go to Mana,(that being as broad as i can conceive the gains from such an alliance to be at the 2014 election,

         The other negotiation should Annette not topple Flavell i would suggest should be from a point of the first seat off the list of such an alliance going to Mana, the next to Internet and then any following two also to Mana,

         If DotCom would be willing to accept such a deal then i suggest such a negotiation could be achieved within a week…
         • bad12 3.1.1.2.1

           27 March 2014 at 4:14 pm

           The latest from DotCom via the Herald online this afternoon is that He will definitely NOT have anything to do with the National party should the Internet Party have any electoral success in 2014,

           DotCom places the leak to Blubber boy over at ‘wail oil’ firmly at the feet of those operating out of the Beehives 9th floor,(as do i), and, says such behavior would prohibit Him having anything to so with Slippery and His Government,

           The question need be asked of the PM ”does He see that there could be a definite downside to using the arms of the State, namely the GCSB and SIS, against political opponents, sooner or later such behavior IF the PM is indulging it it will blow back in His face”…
           • phillip ure 3.1.1.2.1.1

             27 March 2014 at 4:56 pm

             that’s one essential box ticked..

             ..i looked at the precises of policy goals on their website..

             ..and i couldn’t see anything mana couldn’t support..

             ..the deal must definitely now be back ‘on’..

             ..and it must cause some rue on the right..

             ..that this shit-smearing camapign has blown up totally in their faces..

             ..and they ..by their own actions..

             ..have built one of the main pillars for a dotcom/mana-deal..

             ..i find that fucken hilarious..
             • phillip ure …

               27 March 2014 at 5:25 pm

               and those in need of a laff..

               ..cd go and read trevetts’ piece in the herald..

               ..where riding a dance-metaphor..she performs the last rites over any possibilities of a mana/dotcom-‘deal’..

               ..imnsho..trevett sets a new benchmark in ‘wrong’..

               ..and her effort is well worthy of the scoff..
               • bad12 …

                 27 March 2014 at 7:34 pm

                 The latest from DotCom from TV3 News, besides the addition of DotCom being shown wearing a world war two type kraut lid,(German helmet), in what He laughingly called a photo-op where the owner of the helmet asked Him to put it on so He could take some pics,

                 DotCom is now saying that He has an MP with an electoral seat ‘on board’, i had a bit of an ello ello ello what’s going on here then, and, come to the conclusion that DotCom, said to be an extremely shrewd negotiator is doing a little ‘bargaining’ with Hone and the Mana Party via the television news,

                 i seriously doubt DotCom has this ‘secret MP’ signed up to come out of the closet at some future date, i think that the crafty DotCom is simply trying to convince Mana that He has thus giving Himself what seems like a stronger bargaining position than He has,

                 What happens next, i am not going to speculate, it should be interesting tho and provide us with plenty of talking points…
4. Herodotus 4

   27 March 2014 at 9:16 am

   http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11227093
   So with these returns of 14-18% why are rents expected to increase ?
   http://www.interest.co.nz/property/68969/olly-newland-says-give-it-few-weeks-and-interest-rate-rise-news-will-be-fish-and-chip
   And why are CGT rates proposed to be at 15%, when the top PAYE top rate is twice the rate?
   How will this incentivise a change in investment attitudes?
   And remember that a CGT is only paid when it is realised ( ie sold) I would love to be paying 15% tax on such returns! banks offer 4% and your marginal tax rate applies. I am not a financial advisor, yet only 1 investment stands out even should labour win the next election !!
   • Draco T Bastard 4.1

     27 March 2014 at 10:44 am

     And why are CGT rates proposed to be at 15%, when the top PAYE top rate is twice the rate?
     How will this incentivise a change in investment attitudes?

     It won’t. In fact, as far as i can make out, it’s really not supposed to. IMO, It’s supposed to look like someone is doing something while not scaring the rich (ie, not actually doing anything).
5. bad12 5

   27 March 2014 at 9:33 am

   RIP Ernie Abbot, today is the 30th year since Ernie Abbot, a cleaner just doing His job,was killed by a bomb blast in the foyer of the Wellington Trades Hall…
   • RedLogix 5.1

     27 March 2014 at 10:32 am

     Thank you b12.
   • risildowgtn 5.2

     27 March 2014 at 10:47 am

     +1 and still no one has been arrested for this deed…….
     • bad12 5.2.1

       27 March 2014 at 12:08 pm

       As was pointed out on Morning Report, Police have said that the person that planted the bomb that killed Ernie could well be dead,

       From way back then, i remember this, The bomb was said to be encased in a small suitcase with a light green and white check pattern, remember ‘Bonita Banana stickers’, there was said to be one of these stickers attached to the small suitcase,(not much bigger than a brief-case but ‘squarer’,

       Again from memory, those particular banana stickers, stuck on banana’s of all places,were said to be yellow and blue in colours,

       Does that ring any bells in anyone’s memory???…
       • Rosie 5.2.1.1

         27 March 2014 at 1:17 pm

         Hi bad12

         This article indicates the sticker was the less commonly known brand of Rico banana’s:

         http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/9872150/30-years-on-Wellingtons-unsolved-Trades-Hall-mystery
         • bad12 5.2.1.1.1

           27 March 2014 at 4:03 pm

           Tah Rosie, my bad for relying on the memory befor posting that comment,Google is far better at remembering stuff than me…
           • Rosie 5.2.1.1.1.1

             27 March 2014 at 4:30 pm

             Theres others that remember only too well, as I found out last night. I had the privilege of speaking with someone close to what happened that day, which was a humbling experience for me.

             I think one day the full story will come out, or at least more of the pieces. Just not now.
             • Rosie …

               27 March 2014 at 5:02 pm

               PS, oh and on a completely different note, I did see your response yesterday re the flu topic and your subsequent air temperature theory…………..just didn’t get a chance to ponder and reply, and still don’t have the time, except to say that your approach of not staying stuck indoors in an overly heated and stuffy environment is most likely quite a healthy one.
               • bad12 …

                 27 March 2014 at 7:41 pm

                 You might have to read it again if you get the time Rosie, i think you have not quite grasped what i am saying…
6. The Al1en 6

   27 March 2014 at 10:08 am

   So, Mana party and .com – Astute politicking from Hone, or a sign of desperation in recognising Labour could sweep all but one of the Maori seats without outside intervention to bribe voters with things like free internet?
   • phillip ure 6.1

     27 March 2014 at 10:49 am

     i’m actually picking a mana poll-boost from all this.

     ..whatever the outcome of this pre-deal jousting/fence-sitting/brouhaha..

     ..it will be clear to all who want key gone..

     ..that of the minors the mana party is their most certain/staunch vote for that..

     ..that harawira/mana is not for turning..
     • David H 6.1.1

       27 March 2014 at 7:01 pm

       And then you get Pam Corkery writing this little gem. And she’s not what you would call complimentary to the National Party and it’s cronyism not complimentary at all.

       http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11227077
       • phillip ure 6.1.1.1

         27 March 2014 at 7:10 pm

         d’ya reckon corkery is auditioning for a list-placing..?
7. Papa Tuanuku 7

   27 March 2014 at 10:18 am

   No Derek, it’s not ok to call Native Affairs arse holes:

   See comment at 1 minute 23 seconds

   http://www.maoritelevision.com/news/national/native-affairs-kohanga-summary

   At 4.45, see:

   $2.5 million on legal fees with lawyers Chen Palmer.
   • ianmac 7.1

     27 March 2014 at 10:57 am

     Thanks for that link Papa Tuanuku. Much to my surprise (bewilderment?) I found the Parata interview and her explanation to be lucid and credible. Perhaps all those who have been howling for the Parata blood should take a look, though Parata’s dissembling and contradictory behaviour last week brought on her own head the dismay from Opposition.
8. Ennui 8

   27 March 2014 at 11:12 am

   Interesting times this week, maybe what will later be seen as the historic juncture when the American Empire was shown to be terminally knee capped in the Ukraine (and hence everywhere else).

   The US and Europe told Russia they were not welcome at the forthcoming G8 forum…..Russia said, “So what?”

   The US and Europe declared “sanctions” against individuals and assets…Putin said, “Lets see who hurts most from this…..hey Merkel, want the gas to keep flowing? Tell Bambam we don’t trade in US$ and we don’t need his goods….they all come from China so we might as well buy direct”.

   The US then went to work on the G20 summit….the Chinese, India and Brazil are making sounds that say, “We need Russian oil, and they have about 30% of the world supply”……

   The Russians meanwhile are considering what currency they will trade their oil in? They fear the $US is worthless because the US is technically insolvent.

   Crystal ball time……is the $US about to tumble as the default international trading currency? Will the Yuan or similar replace it? Or is it back to gold (Fort Knox has not been audited in years, it is rumored that there are claims (certificates for gold) that exceed the reserves by multiple times). The Germans asked the US for the return of their gold, it has not happened because it is not there, it is already probably in China and India. How will they react? What does this imply for confidence in the $US as a currency? Has the Emperor got any clothes?

   As Empires come apart at the seams events unfold that affect the small players at the imperial periphery. What does this mean for little old NZ? As Bob Dylan sang “times they are a changin..”
   • bad12 8.1

     27 March 2014 at 11:58 am

     i was thinking the other day,(i know what a surprise),when having a look at the history of the Crimea, hell we have come full circle, sitting on the edge of another insane act of mass murder that occurred in that very same place those many many years ago,

     Substitute a bankrupt Imperial England and its colonies with a bankrupt USA and its colonies(yes we are one even if we cannot see it), and all the players,having only stopped to change uniform and upgrade the means of mass murder seem to be all poised ready to resume the game,

     A little firm of Banksters are said to have quite a sizable chunk of the total world stocks of gold locked up in a very deep vault buried deep beneath their New York premises, that little firm,Goldman Saches,(sacks of gold man)…
   • Draco T Bastard 8.2

     27 March 2014 at 3:00 pm

     The US and Europe told Russia they were not welcome at the forthcoming G8 forum…..Russia said, “So what?”

     Linky?

     The Russians meanwhile are considering what currency they will trade their oil in?

     If they thought about it at all they’d realise that there’s only one currency that they should trade their oil in – the Ruble.

     Crystal ball time……is the $US about to tumble as the default international trading currency?

     It should have fallen as such when Nixon dropped it from the Gold Standard. At that point it was no longer a reserve currency because it was just the same as every other floating fiat currency.

     Will the Yuan or similar replace it?

     Shouldn’t do as reserve currencies are detrimental to free trade.

     Or is it back to gold (Fort Knox has not been audited in years, it is rumored that there are claims (certificates for gold) that exceed the reserves by multiple times).

     Nope because a) there isn’t enough gold in the world anyway and b) because, as you point out, there’s already more claims for gold than there is gold.

     Has the Emperor got any clothes?

     The entire system is bunk due to the actions of the capitalists.

     What does this mean for little old NZ?

     We have to become independent (read, neutral) and self-sufficient. Thankfully, we can do both due to the fact that we’re so far away from anybody else and have the necessary resources. The only problem to achieve this is the delusional Cult of the Individual that we’ve been following for the last 30 years.
     • Ennui 8.2.1

       27 March 2014 at 3:29 pm

       Linky http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-26722668

       All fun Draco and Bad. I think the real thing to note is that we have passed a historic juncture without any fanfare. A similar one was the Affair of the Diamond Necklace that Napoleon maintained was the moment credibility was lost by the Ancien Regime, and revolution became inevitable. At the time nobody seemed to notice.

       There is a good read from Ugo bardi on how empires collapse…http://cassandralegacy.blogspot.co.nz/2013/07/the-punctuated-collapse-of-roman-empire.html

       Fits this scenario really well.
   • Tracey 8.3

     27 March 2014 at 3:04 pm

     GIven Key is welcome, I imagine Russia is thinking it can’t be up to much anyway.
     • Ennui 8.3.1

       27 March 2014 at 3:30 pm

       +100
9. captain hook 9

   27 March 2014 at 11:35 am

   who saw that slimy little turd tony ‘gollum’ ryall accusing the NZLP of economic sabotage.
   If that is NEWS then why dont the MSM and TV1 check for facts instead of letting this little greaseball get away with a patently untrue falsehood.
   This is not political deabte but campaigning masquerading as NEWS but the simpletons at TV! are either completely cowed or in sympathy with the views expressed.
   • Tracey 9.1

     27 March 2014 at 3:05 pm

     with wide eyes and everything.
10. Not a PS Staffer 10

    27 March 2014 at 11:48 am

    Norm Kirk was Mayor of Kaiapoi

    “In 1951, Kirk became Chairman of the party’s Hurunui electorate committee. In 1953, Kirk led Labour to a surprising victory in elections for Kaiapoi’s local council, and he became the youngest mayor in the country at age 30.
    As mayor, Kirk showed great creativity and implemented many changes. He surprised officials by studying issues intensely, often emerging with better knowledge of his options than the people functioning as his advisors. He resigned as mayor on 15 January 1958 and moved his family to Christchurch.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Kirk

    The Labour Party, in general, under values Local Government as a training ground for politicians. Thankfully David Cunliffe DOES value local government and pushed for a RED LABOUR branding in his New Lynn patch (Whau Board). See this note form the Rosebank Business Association very National leaning CEO in their magazine.

    “Labour party leader David Cunliffe demonstrated his leadership skill, political nous and cunning in orchestrating the strategy around the election of all five of the Labour led tickets for the Whau Ward, plus the successful election of Councillor Ross Clow in the local body elections for the Local Whau Ward late last year. You only had to be at the public inauguration of these elected persons to see the overwhelming family and community support that they had built, more particularly from the ethnic communities. It was a revelation and Labour will I’m sure replicate this grass roots model for Central Government election success.” http://rosebankbusiness.co.nz/sites/default/files/aritcles/attachments/ROUNDABOUT%2088%20LR_0.pdf
11. Jan 11

    27 March 2014 at 2:28 pm

    “The European, Canadian, Australian, New Zealand, and UK governments have betrayed not only their own peoples but also the peoples of the entire world by lending the support of Western Civilization to Washington’s lawlessness.”
    – Paul Craig Roberts
    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article38061.htm
12. Tracey 12

    27 March 2014 at 5:10 pm

    Ruataniwha Water Storage Scheme

    Thursday, 27 March 2014, 3:26 pm
    Press Release: TrustPower
    Media Release

    27 March 2014

    Re: Ruataniwha Water Storage Scheme (“RWSS”)

    Trustpower announces that it has decided to withdraw as a potential investor in the RWSS. Trustpower has determined that it will not be possible to invest within its risk and return framework for a project of this nature.

    Accordingly, Trustpower has terminated its memorandum of understanding, signed in September 2013 with Hawkes Bay Regional Investment Company and Ngai Tahu Capital Limited.

    V J Hawksworth
    Chief Executive
13. Ergo Robertina 13

    27 March 2014 at 7:51 pm

    New research finds the more well-off suburbs in Sydney have some of the lowest immunisation rates in Australia. Not really surprising, but I suppose if you are not ground down by surviving day to day, you have more time and resources to question authority.
    • McFlock 13.1

      27 March 2014 at 8:46 pm

      And are maybe more inclined to think they know better than the general consensus of thousands of people who have spent decades actually knowing what they’re talking about.

      Further evidence that captialism isn’t a meritocracy, IMO.
14. joe90 14

    27 March 2014 at 10:19 pm

    Great article from David Byrne.

    But could we become more secure without abandoning the internet? What if there’s a third way? One that doesn’t involve either passive resignation to being exploited or a Luddite smash-the-looms fantasy. What if we began to develop and encourage the adoption of machines and a network that are actually secure – through which neither thieves, corporations, nor the NSA could track us – and what if these could be configured by us, to really do what we want them to do? To stop the spying, stealing and monitoring, but to allow other things to continue.

    What would that look like?

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/mar/24/david-byrne-nsa-rebuild-secure-internet
    • Populuxe1 14.1

      27 March 2014 at 11:35 pm

      And where does he post it? On the Internet.

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