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Open mike 29/03/2022

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  1. dv 1
    29 March 2022 at 8:28 am

    What were the comments act Will Smiths wife by chris Rock that caused will to crack.

    I have had a look, but can't be bothered trolling thru all the…..

    • ozaki 1.1
      29 March 2022 at 8:36 am

      He made a joke about Jada Smiths hair (looking forward to seeing her in GI Jane 2). He also made a couple jokes at the last Oscars about her too (she boycotted the last one & Rock said she wasn't even invited & then something about Will Smith getting overpaid for a movie that bombed).

      • dv 1.1.1
        29 March 2022 at 8:42 am

        Thanks. Seems relatively trivial.

        • Francesca 1.1.1.1
          29 March 2022 at 9:15 am

          Sort of. Will Smith's wife has alopecia, which must be distressing (no pun intended)

          Not really something to be mocked or made fun of .And apparently Chris Rock has history there.

          • dv 1.1.1.1.1
            29 March 2022 at 9:20 am

            Oh that's I bit different then Fr Not so trivial.

            • Belladonna 1.1.1.1.1.1
              29 March 2022 at 10:38 am

              Still not OK to take a swing at someone (especially on international TV and a major awards event).
              Smith had a virtually guaranteed platform (in his acceptance speech) to squash any inappropriate remarks made about him or his wife. Very easy for a highly-articulate man to make it very clear that Chris Rock was way out of line. Or even to create a media storm by walking out and making the acceptance speech to the waiting cameras – refusing to share the stage with him.

              Normalizing someone assaulting another person for 'dissing my wife' is not the sort of culture we want to see.

          • Blade 1.1.1.1.2
            29 March 2022 at 9:24 am

            Chris Rock is the Alan Duff of black culture. He isn't popular with certain sections of the black community who consider him a sell out. Here's an example below.

            If a NZ comedian( do we have any?) did anything similar, his/her life would be over.

          • Peter 1.1.1.1.3
            29 March 2022 at 10:47 am

            Other factors were obviously at play but it could be said that the slapper slapped the slappee for making fun of a health condition of his wife.

            CODA, which won the votes as best movie, is about issues to do with the deaf, hearing disabilities.

            What would the reaction have been had the comedian poked fun at deafness?

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CODA_(2021_film)

            The Academy Awards is a lavish marketing orgy and the slapper has done a fine service to that.

            Fittingly today some of the talk is of taking the award off Smith for what he did. So, yesterday he was the best actor because they voted for him to say his performance was of that quality, but today with the movie in the cans, the votes taken and the acknowledgements made, what is recorded is no longer of the required quality?

            Fittingly because of what it's all about. Eat your heart out Barnum & Bailey and Ringling, the circus is in town.

            (And no HIA for the slapped one? An opportunity missed.)

      • Jimmy 1.1.2
        29 March 2022 at 12:06 pm

        Imagine what would have happened if he made a joke about Alec Baldwin's wife!!!!

    • Puckish Rogue 1.2
      29 March 2022 at 12:16 pm

      Theres also the small matter of their famously open marriage, at least the wife really likes having an open marriage whereas Will may say the words but who really knows

      He probably got sick of the jokes about being a cuck ie you can fuck my wife but don't fuck with my wife is probably the easiest, laziest one

      He also used to be the biggest star (and deservedly so) but now hes on the decline, he also tried to jump start his sons career using his own capital but that went nowhere (again deservedly so)

      But what it does is show the utter hypocrisy of the woke, Hollywood left who claim to love freedom of speech but gave Will Smith a standing ovation when he won the Oscar

      So many memes can and will be made about this

  2. Sanctuary 2
    29 March 2022 at 8:45 am

    Nice to see the right wing vote for Auckland mayor smeared like an insect across a huge windscreen of choice, with 4-5 right wingers vying for the job.

  3. Francesca 3
    29 March 2022 at 9:39 am

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/roman-abramovich-and-peace-negotiators-suffered-suspected-poisoning-in-ukraine/J5TFX3HSN552VQG76CETZQGKSA/

    Once again the intrepid Bellingcat is at the core of these allegations

    Earlier, Bellingcat issued a statement saying it believed the three men had been the victim of a suspected poisoning.

    “Bellingcat can confirm that three members of the delegation attending the peace talks between Ukraine and Russia on the night of 3 to 4 March 2022 experienced symptoms consistent with poisoning with chemical weapons,” it said.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/28/abramovich-and-ukrainian-mp-may-have-been-poisoned-this-month

    Interesting that the Herald article did not include this:

    Later on Monday, Ukrainian officials poured cold water on the report. Asked about the suspected poisoning, Ukrainian negotiator Mykhailo Podolyak said “there is a lot of speculation, various conspiracy theories”.

    Rustem Umerov, another member of the negotiating team, urged people not to trust “unverified information”.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/28/abramovich-and-ukrainian-mp-may-have-been-poisoned-this-month

    or this :

    A US official said intelligence suggested the sickening of Abramovich and Ukrainian peace negotiators was due to an environmental factor, not poisoning.

    The US official told Reuters: “The intelligence highly suggests this was environmental,” adding: “Eg, not poisoning.” The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, declined to elaborate.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/28/russias-abramovich-suffered-symptoms-of-suspected-poisoning-reports

    Maybe there's one too many PR outfits in the mix

  4. joe90 4
    29 March 2022 at 10:21 am

    State sanctioned media has the floor.

    /

    We received another warning from Roskomnadzor. After that, we suspend the publication of the newspaper in the networks and on paper – “until the end of the“ special operation on the territory of Ukraine ”. Sincerely, the editors of the "Novaya Gazeta"

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/28/russian-news-outlet-novaya-gazeta-to-close-until-end-of-ukraine-war

  5. Blazer 5
    29 March 2022 at 10:30 am

    Reports that Zelensky ready to negotiate with Putin about Ukrainian neutrality.

    Lets hope progress is made to end this tragedy sooner rather than…later.

    Zelensky 'Ready' to Negotiate with Putin, Warns of 'Third World War' – Rolling Stone

  6. Francesca 6
    29 March 2022 at 10:41 am

    You said it Joe!
    joe904
    29 March 2022 at 10:21 am
    “State sanctioned media has the floor.”

    Gorby can commiserate with Chris Hedges

    YouTube has removed the entire six-year archive of the author’s show “On Contact.” This censorship, he says, is about supporting what I.F Stone reminded us is what governments always do — lie.

    https://consortiumnews.com/2022/03/28/chris-hedges-on-being-disappeared/

    • adam 6.1
      29 March 2022 at 2:37 pm

      "On Contact" was basically a book review show. With the majority being US written and published books at that.

      The ability of some to ignore the growing censorship in western media is frightening. But hypocrisy knows no bounds I guess.

  7. aj 7
    29 March 2022 at 12:54 pm

    Hedge's article is a chilling reminder of where we are right now. It used to be 'trust, but verify'. Now we can't even trust. We can pat ourselves on the back as much as we like but we are already in the abyss, not heading towards it, and I can't see a way back.

    • Francesca 7.1
      29 March 2022 at 1:36 pm

      An awful lot of suppression of opinion and news is now reaching peak insanity under cover of the Ukraine war.Will we ever have this reversed?

      I don't think so

  8. Stuart Munro 8
    29 March 2022 at 2:14 pm

    From the Telegram channel of Natalia Sindeeva, founder of TVRain:

    The case of the new Russian journalism: there are fewer independent media, but more 🤷 ♂️

    It's funny and fun, of course, to see how many (well, more or less, all) major media, one most important independent TV channel and one cult radio station split into dozens of Telegram channels, YouTube channels and other micro-media.

    Literally in a couple of weeks we have had and grew to a decent size of Astra, Kolezev turned into a fact full-fledged media, Venedictot re-launched the tg channel and gathered three more subscribers there, his team started the "Live Nail", in debt oh before that, at least two more important presenters have come away from her, and the rains are so and all in all they launched a whole dream of telegrams and new YouTube channels with live broadcasts: right now a debut (and very powerful) broadcast on the channel "All such a Mongait", two days ago the first broadcast was on Dziadko and Kotrikadze channel, where the post was already gathered you 100k subscribers, and there are still broadcasts by Denis Katayev and Bogdan Bakaleiko, let's not forget about the channel Sindeeva herself. And this is only a tenth of everything that has appeared in the last month.

    Both the views and the quality of broadcasting in all of our newly invented micro-media are no worse than the major media they worked in before. It turns out that with the collapse of large editions from their prints, many smaller, even more independent, purposeful, relentless and incapable media are formed, which are even more difficult to control and monitor. The most important paradox of this effect is that the benefit for viewers and readers is present in both cases. Information is like water, it will always find a click.

    (Translation's a bit iffy, but it seems the nodding dogs of RT won't have it all their own way)

  9. weka 9
    29 March 2022 at 3:41 pm

    Reason #379 why many women (and feminists) think gender identity ideology is regressive.

  10. ianmac 10
    29 March 2022 at 4:04 pm

    David Seymour was all set to embarrass the PM with questions aimed at the co-management with Iwi. Must be a win for Seymour?

    No. Jacinda handled the questions and in my book, humiliated Seymour. Master Class or was it a Mistress Class?

    https://ondemand.parliament.nz/parliament-tv-on-demand/?itemId=224056

  11. Tony Veitch (not etc.) 11
    29 March 2022 at 4:12 pm

    I’ll risk weka’s ire by posting this:

    Guy McPherson may (may) be overly pessimistic in his prognosis of the human race ending a couple of years after an ice-free Arctic, from habitat failure and catastrophic climate events . . .

    But the fact remains we’ve gone way beyond the time when a lot of people buying electric vehicles and planting their own home garden is going to arrest climate change!

    When Antarctic temperatures are 40 Celsius above normal and the east Antarctic ice-sheet is beginning to disintegrate, then only determined, world-wide, co-operative government forced action can make any difference.

    What we have instead is Russia bombing the hell out of the Ukraine!

    [TheStandard: A moderator moved this comment to Open Mike as being off topic or irrelevant in the post it was made in. Be more careful in future.]

    [I’ve moved your comment for two reasons. 1. I specifically said don’t bring McPherson-esque, it’s too late, rhetoric into this post (because it just depresses people and inhibits taking action). 2. because the post is for talking about what we can do, not moaning about what is wrong. I’m not seeing anything in your comment that fits with the kaupapa of the post. If you want to debate about what isn’t being done, there are plenty of other places to do it – weka]

    • weka 11.1
      29 March 2022 at 4:21 pm

      the problem with McPherson is the thinks he is right and that we should act based on his ideas, and that amounts to giving up. I consider him a traitor and I don't think I use that word for anyone else. He has no way to know if he is right or not, there's been plenty of knowledgeable people who have critiqued his analysis and found it wanting in terms of the science.

      My question for you is: why would you choose pessimism and non action over acting as if life matters and that gives all of life a chance? Even if humans don't survive, would you really not try and save the rest of nature? If it was your loved ones in a burning building, would you not do all you could to save them even if it seemed hopeless?

      • Tony Veitch (not etc.) 11.1.1
        29 March 2022 at 5:10 pm

        If it was your loved ones in a burning building, would you not do all you could to save them even if it seemed hopeless?

        Of course I would, and I feel the same way about the whole human race. My point was that we need concentrated and determined government-level action across the whole globe if we are to have any chance.

        Which is precisely what I am not seeing!

        • weka 11.1.1.1
          29 March 2022 at 7:20 pm

          that's you wanting to debate about what isn't happening, or what is wrong. The posts are for what is happening, and what we can do.

          Governments will follow our lead, they're not going to lead on this. And I disagree about the any chance. When things start collapsing, what we've done in the decades before will matter a great deal even if governments have been dragging the chain.

          I think in NZ we have a fair chance of pushing the government to action. But not by waiting for them.

    • weka 11.2
      29 March 2022 at 4:24 pm

      mod note.

  12. Belladonna 12
    29 March 2022 at 4:14 pm

    Sad to see Louisa Wall resign from Parliament

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/labour-mp-louisa-wall-resigns-after-14-years-in-parliament/SK6MRV6VV7GKROYDFDYNEGQTYQ/

    Openly citing her treatment during the 2020 campaign as a reason. It seems to have been made eminently clear to her that she had no future with Labour.

    I don't always agree with Wall – but admired the passion that she brought to Parliament – and her ability to build consensus across parties.

    Sad to see that these were not equally valued by her Labour colleagues. Her replacement in Manurewa has very large shoes to fill, and so far has only been in the headlines for the wrong reasons (in the splash zone for the inability of KO to maintain political neutrality)

    I hope that the timing of this announcement indicates that there is a great next career move for Louisa Wall on the horizon.

  13. Ad 13
    29 March 2022 at 4:42 pm

    Holy Jesus now where are we going to get scallops from?

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