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Open mike 29/05/2025

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  1. Todays Posts 1

    Today's Posts (updated through the day):

  2. ianmac 2

    Is it possible that Seymour/Atlas planned/wanted to have the biggest reaction to the Treaty Bill as a means to the end? The end is the passing of the Regulation Standards Bill into law. You see that the RS Bill is far more damaging than the Treaty one.

    But will the people have exhausted the will and means to raise much of a protest? Is Seymour counting on that exhaustion? And by being the Deputy PM has it given him added power?

    • arkie 2.1

      That may be the intention, but it will not work.

      Go to this web address:

      https://www.parliament.nz/en/pb/sc/make-a-submission/document/54SCFIN_SCF_E22299B3-B67B-4F74-023D-08DD9688D2C5/regulatory-standards-bill

      Scroll down and click the button when you are ready.

      Note: You do not have to use the whole form, you can write your actual submission (your comments and recommendations) in a document and upload it thus giving you time to edit, ponder, change, update, and get it just as you want. You can then also share that document to help others.

      You must have finalised you submission by 1pm on Monday 23rd June, 2025 NZ time

      Do it now!

      This is likely to be a highly visited submission page and may cause issues with the website as the deadline approaches, best to get in early and do it now.

      https://blog.mikeriversdale.co.nz/2025/05/regulatory-standards-bill-submissions.html

      https://www.parliament.nz/en/pb/sc/committees-press-releases/submissions-are-now-open-on-the-regulatory-standards-bill/

      • Karolyn_IS 2.1.1

        I submitted to the proposed Regulatory Standards Bill on a word document back in January. I will look at the actual Bill to see how much of my Jan submission I can re-use.

        This was Jane Kelsey's submission to the proposed RSB.

        • arkie 2.1.1.1

          This is another useful site for help building your submission to the bill underway in parliament now:

          How to make a Submission

          You don’t need to be an expert. You don’t need fancy words.

          We’ve listed some key points that you can select from to add to your submission, and space to add your own kōrero.

          Make your submission unique:

          We encourage you to use the space provided to tell the Select Committee about yourself – add your own story or kōrero to strengthen your submission.

          Personalised submissions will have a stronger impact.

          Make a submission today, because change starts with us.

          https://hapai.co.nz/regulatory-standards-bill/

      • ianmac 2.1.2

        Thanks for the link Arkie. My fear is that Seymour will carry on with the passing of the Bill regardless of what submissions say. The CoC has shown that they can ignore protests, or data, submissions and produce no justifications except empty rhetoric.

        • Incognito 2.1.2.1

          Fear not, it’s in the Coalition Agreement between National and ACT to pass “the Regulatory Standards Act as soon as practicable”.

        • ianmac 2.1.2.2

          This morning I read a column on New York Times outlining the effect that the pounding the confidence of the people in USA. (Disappeared behind a pay wall, M Geeson.)

          Like when Putin took over, the ruthless actions taken when dissent/protest occurred were devastating. Until the people adjusted to the new "normal."

          So in the USA, once the protests against Trump MAGA are exhausted they will accept the new "normal." So a few bad people get deported, Media is suppressed. Free Speech becomes limited. And that will become OK in time. The new "normal."

          In New Zealand, the reach of the RS Bill will create an anti-democratic climate which will slip by and we the people will be bluffed into acceptance, unless….

  3. Muttonbird 3

    The Federated Farmers™ New Zealand Government has released its policy document:

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/562530/sweeping-rma-changes-for-housing-freshwater-infrastructure-rules-proposed

  4. Drowsy M. Kram 4

    NAct, Atlas and other courtesans of the sorted will divert / distract like mad, but at some point the humans on spaceship Earth need to get on sustainable paths to the future. If we don't, then big economic problems will be the least of our worries.

    Keith Woodford traces the structural decline in per capita economic growth, with the average Kiwi having made minimal progress in their income-earning ability from early 2020 [29 May 2025]

    Leaders pushing GDP growth mantra risking charge of ‘ecocide [10 Feb 2025]
    We need to move beyond growth to a post-growth world—and this means replacing the goal of increasing GDP with the goal of improving human wellbeing, argues Mike Joy.

    The fundamental problem with continual growth is perfectly captured by the economist Kenneth Boulding and ecologist David Attenborough who have both said anyone who believes exponential growth can go on forever in a finite world is either a madman or an economist. Even the World Health Organization refers to policymakers as having a pathological obsession with GDP.

    Comment: The economic issue of importance (but ignored by most economists) is income and wealth distribution – with redistribution, we already have enough for everyone. The diversion from this, promoted by economists who are courtesans to the wealthy, is growth (grow the pie, rising tide floats all boats, and other myths).


    https://thespinoff.co.nz/society/16-08-2022/the-side-eyes-two-new-zealands-the-table

  5. tc 5

    When seymour becomes deputy PM I would dearly love someone in the media to take it upon themselves to bring him to account on school lunches.

    One topic, singular focus, keep at him and don't accept the distractive word salad drivel he serves up.

    He refuses to answer RNZ's valid questions on his Canadian Think Tank tenure and calls them crackpots.

    About time he respected the position he holds that we fund and not his backers and was made accountable.

    Media has been threatened by him and Peters so there's nothing to lose here for them IMO as the longer they stay in power the less viable their vocation becomes. It is pretty tenuous now here in NZ holding power to account with ongoing developments.

    • Bearded Git 5.1

      There are much bigger fish to fry. smileysmiley​​​​​​

    • SPC 5.2

      Perhaps ask him whether cutting food in schools and support to food banks +

      delayed pay parity, cancelled pay equity, No Fair Pay Agreements (Industry Awards), minimalist changes in MW each year and 4% Kiwi Saver contributions that Treasury says will lower future wages

      is part of an operation to starve Kiwis into migration to Australia

      Ethnic cleansing to bring in imports who do not know what the Treaty is, or what sort of society we had before the new neo-liberal Regulatory era, sounds like some sort of Atlas Network Capitalist "Zionism/paradise" on earth for the wealthy elite.

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