If would be funny but as traffic flows are what they are to see a bunch of selfish liberals think of their agenda at the cost to the many. To want a lane closed and set up barriers for a trial for a very few cyclists to take over a lane especially when the bridge during peak flows is already inadequate. Circle 5 kms either side of the bridge at guess how few cyclists travel between the circle weekdays.
sure the next crossing include this for the selescted few who would utilise this. But not the current crossing.
where is the business case to support this ??
Ps hope all goes well for JAG pregency
Do humans need a ‘business case’ for having babies? Not all impacts can and should be limited and reduced to simple dollar terms; this is where our current economic ideologies are counter-productive [no pun]. Ironically, today the report from the Climate Change Commission will be presented today. What will the ‘business case’ be, I wonder …
Chill. Exactly! You were talking about material stuff only. Just as well Government didn’t wait for Treasury or the RBNZ to prepare a ‘business case’ when it had to act last year. Maybe lives are more important than a ‘business case’? Neo-liberal thinking is so reductionist, short-termist, selfish, and shallow; makes for a good ‘business case’, doesn’t it?
Bikes and babies. A great way of spreading schmaltz on a serious economic and structural problem. Great middle class self-interest combining with future-needed requirements it seems to me. The women can rise for bikes and the environment, but are they there for poor mothers struggling for better conditions trying to balance babies and work and shelter and despair?
If women do have finer feelings and compassion for those women needing help in their community and wider society, it would be seen in great mass shows of concern and solidarity for the strugglers as noticeable and determined as for bike use. But bikes are now the sacred objects to be worshipped and nice people ride them; often rather unpleasant mothers battle with social problems and a dead-centred welfare system, they are not like nice middle-class people, not 'one of us'.
I wonder if Ms Genter considered the effect on the climate of her actions?
How embarrassing if a recommendation in the Climate Commission Report says we should reduce our use of Air Travel?
I understand she lives in Wellington. She would appear to have made a return trip from Wellington to Auckland, almost certainly by plane and at taxpayer expense to take part in this exercise. How much CO2 would this have generated?
Shouldn't someone who purports to care about the effect of mankind on the climate reduce her travel to whatever is really necessary?
Offsetting, is that the thing were rich tossers sooth their conscience by fucking rural communities with their pines while kicking the cc can down the rd, ??
"Shouldn't someone who purports to care about the effect of mankind on the climate reduce her travel to whatever is really necessary?"
Necessary for what?
If she wishes to take effective action against the climate it may be necessary to fly on a plane sometimes – or conversely – it is not necessary to never fly on a plane if that renders you less effective in addressing climate change
And concomitantly – it is therefore not necessary to never fly on a plane simply to avoid bogus accusations of hypocrisy by ideologues who want to dissolve large-scale collective action into individual choices – in order to ensure that no collective action in fact occurs
Ouch! Don't think there'll be any Pink Floyd music at the TYT offices for a while
One of the few rock stars who actually has an intelligent opinion about anything is Roger Waters. He's just brought the hammer down on some especially obnoxious and foolish Russiagaters…
He inspires many more. The people he "pisses off" do not represent anything like a significant number; they know that as well as we do. Fevered denunciation and smearing, like Ana Kasparian and Mr. Uygur reflexively do in this clip, are all they have to offer.
Yes, I saw that thanks Adrian. Wonder if Jesse Mulligan or Kim Hill or Kathryn Ryan will interview Matt Taibbi or Aaron Maté or Max Blumenthal some time in the near future. Or are they going to stick with the likes of Jonathan Freedland , Anne Applebaum and Alistair Campbell?
Bryce Edwards is simply using this piece as a stalking horse to launder far right talking points around "free speech” into mainstream discourse.
The clear implication that "the left" is responsible for the culture wars is nonsense. The origin of the culture wars lies in the political realignment of poor whites in the US South from the early sixties on as a reaction to the civil rights movement.
Of course, if you are a shill of the right it suits to project blame onto someone else if your desire is for a culture war on "free speech" as a distraction from the fact you have no answers to the multiple crises of modern zombie capitalism, and have given up even pretending to have any answers.
Edwards is not stupid, yet he continually – and deliberately in my opinion – continues to conflate "liberal" with the left. His out for this is to simply create a strawman – the "contemporary left" – on whose swinging corpse he can then hang various placards proclaiming it's guilt. His arguments may have held some water twenty years ago, describing what is best called Blairite/Clinton centrism which tarted itself up in the raiments of the left by hijacking it's primary political vehicles across the west. But like many academics in a ivory towers of what are fundamentally neoliberal in funding and outlook organisations his thinking has atrophied. That boat cast off with the GFC, with the collapse of centrism (as evidenced by the Pasokification of social democratic 'centrist" parties across Europe) indicating the left long ago parted ways with the sort of centrist liberal politics he accuses it of.
The truth of the matter is the right is formenting a distraction in the form of a culture war on the nebulous grounds of free speech and in order to get it it needs it's useful idiots in neoliberal academic organs to provide an intellectual framework.
The left can spend it's time much more profitably than debating these sterile, worn out arguments by seeking to own the future with practical solutions to todays and tomorrows issues.
[TheStandard: A moderator moved this comment to Open Mike as being off topic or irrelevant in the post it was made in. Be more careful in future.]
[I specifically said not to attack the author. Three day ban for wasting my moderator time and creating a hostile environment for the people who put up content. – weka]
You’re lucky I didn’t see the second comment, now in trash. Making a note in the backend for future reference. Count this as a second warning about ignoring moderation directions.
Sanctuary – I agree with your view entirely, the only view I've seen that states the right wing as responsible for our wokeness problem. It's just more division strategy from the neo liberal conservatives but it's not really working for them. I as a leftie don't have the slightest problem with it. Well said mate. I don't understand the moderation notes?
Did you read the post? There’s a note at the top saying debate the issues raised, don’t attack the author. It’s longstanding policy to not attack authors because getting posts up on TS is more important than commenters having wee anti author rants instead of engaging in debate. Sanctuary knows this. The blatant disrespect fir moderation is part of the ban.
had Sanctuary’s comment been made without the author attack it would still be under the original post and they wouldn’t have been banned.
I had to read the post before I could agree with it, yes? I note that a few other commenters have possibly attacked the author, although I wouldn't rate any of them (including Sanctuary) as attacks IMHO. This is not an attack on you and thanks for your input.
You said you didn’t understand the mod notes. I asked if you read the post because it clearly explains the boundaries at the top.
no one has to agree with posts. They do have to abide by moderation. I’m guessing you didn’t see Sanctuary’s second comment. They were basically trolling at that point.
I’ve got years of writing and moderation at TS as well as cross posting and encouraging new authors. I’ve been listening to writers say what’s hard about writing here. I have a pretty good idea of what is needed for robust debate and it isn’t long termers ignoring the rules of the site and doing whatever the hell they like.
calling an author a shill is an attack, as an example, and it’s a specious form of debate and it derails. Author attacks are designed to undermine the person, that’s bulkshit tactics.
One of the reasons I put the post up is because I want the left to take a long hard look at itself and go back to debating the issues. Apparently that’s too hard.
That kind of commenting also opens the way for other people to make defamatory comments which puts the site owners at risk.
@Sanctuary
"Edwards is not stupid, yet he continually – and deliberately in my opinion – continues to conflate "liberal" with the left"
This is THE major problem of the Left today..ie separating with extreme prejudice who and what are the Left in most people’s minds from who and what are the Centrist Liberals.
One of my sons is at Uni at the moment and even there they don’t make this critical distinction..except it seems when it suits the arguments of the status quo.
Sorry to see you got kicked off…seems a bit harsh.
Adrian, I feel many in the left drive this wedge themselves.
I always consider myself to be centralist economically, but definitely left socially. That position is based on my life experiences and observations. I have encountered many small business owners being the same.
Many times on TS (and in everyday life) i encounter many in the left that cannot see this is not a contradiction (necessarily) and just hurl personal abuse if one isn't 100% 'left', instead of accepting that a centralist-leftist has significant overlaps with the majority of the left.
I probably have not explained that well, but that's how I feel.
What link? I explained very patiently and carefully. I cannot do more than that. if you lack the experience, knowledge or are just so plain pig headed to understand something which is very basic then I really cannot help you.
This was two days ago. FFS. MOVE ON. THIS IS HARRESSMENT.
MODERATORS PLEASE NOTE. ‘NZ Perverse economy. This poster Louis is WAY out of line.
No need to be obtuse Peter Chch. You cant back up your claim that “Clark repeatedly lied to the media before finally coming clean and apologising for his lies”
You have done what you accused Clark of doing, you lied.
Feeling vulnerable over your ‘Clark hit job’? The pushback is fair, imho.
David Clark is now in charge? Are you joking.
The former Minister of Health who is on record knowingly lying about this very same DHB [Waikato?], who hid under his bed in Dunedin (when he wasn't out breaching lockdown rules) during the worst of the pandemic, who… too many screw ups to record.
He possibly could manage the parliamentary broom cupboard, but thats about his limit. Unbelievable.
Already put up a link date stamped the 30th which was Sunday. You don't speak for most Kiwis PeterChch and will remind you that Clark won his seat convincingly last year so obviously its not as you described. Besides, you have been caught out telling porkies. Very hypocritical of you.
Please note these continual personal attack from this idiot Louis. I put up with this idiot on Saturday with personal abuse. Still at it. Calling someone a lier with no grounds, on top of the endless shit I endured from this cretin on Saturday is not unacceptable!
Yesterday 30th, I asked you for a link to back up your claims, even Incognito said to you "You should still provide a link about all those lies by Clark to the media, thanks"
"Clark says he has already received an apology from acting board chairman Rabin Rabindran for not mentioning the extent of the problem – which supports Clark's version of what he was and wasn't told on March 13"
The quote is from your link that you posted and it doesn't back up your false claims. Why you persist in lying and digging an even greater hole for yourself PeterChCh, is anyone's guess.
…just a thought…from what you are saying….you are not Left socially…you are Liberal Socially…the Leftist position is based and revolves around Economic Theory.
"The independent advice was handed to the Minister today (Monday 31 May). The Commission will publish the advice on its website next Wednesday (9 June) once it has been tabled by the Minister."
When hearing about plans to build a tunnel from Auckland city to North Shore I think about our earthquake potential in NZ. A recent study on earthquake preparedness there contains this:
And it doesn't mention the huge cost of such a tunnel if we take it on though we are in a fast-fading economy. When we run out of houses to sell, we will have to sell ourselves in new ways, just to survive. The cost of a tunnel may be amortised over many decades, but if our economy declines we will be left with an enforceable debt as the financial institutions don't go in for compassionate jubilees for debt.* No, nay, never, anyway probably not now in Our Brave New World.
* The tendency for debts to grow faster than the population's ability to pay has been a basic constant throughout all recorded history. … The concept of a debt jubilee is not new. It dates back to biblical times and the Book of Leviticus where the Hebrews would every 50 years free slaves, prisoners and forgive debts.16/04/2012
Fascinating – kea may be more intelligent than we are – by applying their brain to achieve rational results that benefit them. We seem to believe in SEP – someone will rescue us from the horns of our dilemmas! Ouch! Old news piece from last year, still worth reading.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/410887/study-on-kea-notes-unprecedented-smart-behaviour Mar.4/20 In a paper published today in Nature Communications, University of Auckland experts found the birds can judge statistical odds in a way only ever seen before in infants and great apes. In a range of tests at the Willowbank Wildlife Reserve in Christchurch, kea worked out that choosing a particular coloured token always led to a food reward, and even managed to learn which of their rangers was most likely to pick the token they wanted.
Study co-author Alex Taylor, a psychologist who studies intelligence in animals and birds, said the behaviour they saw was unprecedented in birds.
Nice one. We definitely need more normalising stories.
yet, the politics.
so how do we do this then? I’d be happy to talk about women’s sex based rights and not talk about trans issues, but it’s really hard to do. I had a fair crack with the census post I wrote. But when left wing men are now taking the position that women don’t get to define their own politics and thus their lives, how is that different than what he is talking about in that post?
The debate isn’t sex based vs gender based rights. It’s existing sex based rights *and gender based rights vs removing sex based rights and replacing with only gender based rights.
Do you have a link about 'sex based' rights that is not just talking about gender-based ones? ie: it is about 'females' rather than 'women'. Doesn't sound like any UN Conventions I know of.
Not really my area at the international level, but I've seen GCFs talking about CEDAW as being sex based. A quick google found this,
Noting that the Universal Declaration of Human Rights affirms the principle of the inadmissibility of discrimination and proclaims that all human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights and that everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth therein, without distinction of any kind, including distinction based on sex,
I'm more familiar with the debate in the UK, where law gives rights to people who transition, and retains rights for women based on sex to the exclusion of males (including trans women) where necessary. Trans lobbyists like Mermaids have been trying to get this removed.
Important to also understand that the word gender is often used to mean sex, especially historically.
Another useful case to look at is in Canada where the Human Rights Tribunal ruled against a pre-op trans woman who was insisting that estheticians waxed their genitals.
Almost none of the Canadian mainstream media would cover the case while it was ongoing, such has been the success of the 'no debate' lobby. It was covered by some conservative media eg The Post Millennial. This is part of why left wing GCFs get called right wing, but where these were the only outlets available (there are also right wing GC people). GCFs went to the tribunal hearings and live tweeted them, which is how GCFs knew what was going on when the rest of the left was clueless. What this has meant is that most of the left don't actually know what the issues are.
That UK link you provided is relying on conflating 'male' with 'men' and 'female' with 'women' throughout.
Perhaps it is men that CGFs could usefully exclude without confusing things – otherwise I can easily see transmen being entitled to be in women's spaces (not that I think they would seek to be). Unless it is penises that are somehow the problem, which seems overblown?
"That UK link you provided is relying on conflating 'male' with 'men' and 'female' with 'women' throughout."
That seems to be what the Canadian case was mostly about. Though the court seemed to agree that not waxing a 'womans' penis wasn't discriminatory, (though the plantifs litigation may have been).
That UK link you provided is relying on conflating 'male' with 'men' and 'female' with 'women' throughout.
I don't think so, it's not conflation, it's normal use of language. Most English speakers understand that men = male and vice versa. And it's clear in the context. I'd certainly expect Labour MPs to read and and be able to understand it.
Perhaps it is men that CGFs could usefully exclude without confusing things – otherwise I can easily see transmen being entitled to be in women's spaces (not that I think they would seek to be).
It's males that are generally the problem. Sometimes they get called male, sometimes they get called men. This is one very good reason to talk about women and trans women, and men and trans men, rather than conflating the two. It's not GCFs that are confusing things.
Unless it is penises that are somehow the problem, which seems overblown?
do you honestly believe that women who have been raped should have to share space with people of whatever gender identity who are male bodied with genitals intact? Share a bedroom in a refuge with a man identifying as a woman? Share a changing room?
There's the Staniland Question:
Do you believe that male-sexed people have the right to undress and shower in a communal changing room with teenage girls?
Good ideas – even if they're controversial – deserve to be published, says Australian philosopher and bioethics professor Peter Singer. To this end, he's co-founded an online academic journal where people can publish under a pseudonym without fear of harassment or harm to their careers.
As a consequentialist and a utilitarian, Singer believes there are no such hard and fast rules.
"A consequentialist believes that whether an act is right or wrong depends on its consequences. So it's not just a matter of saying 'Here's a moral rule, you must never break it no matter what'. For a consequentialist, this 'no matter what' doesn't apply because there may be some circumstances in which a rule you never normally should break you should break because there'd be very bad consequences if you adhere to the rule.
The utilitarian part of it is 'what do you mean by good consequences?' and utilitarians say 'What I mean is something that reduces the amount of suffering in the world or increases the amount of happiness in the world'. We're basically talking about the well-being of people and non-human animals.
"We should be able to say 'yes it may cause some harm to some people but it's important for us to have free debate to find out what are the right views and what are the best policies for dealing with these issues?'"
Freedom of speech should not extend to protecting people's right to hate speech or any malicious incitement of violence, he says….
7th August 2021 7-9.45pm The Trusts Arena, Henderson – Singer will be speaking. $70 up. Funds to alleviate global poverty.
"We should be able to say 'yes it may cause some harm to some people but it's important for us to have free debate to find out what are the right views and what are the best policies for dealing with these issues?'"
Funny how it's always the same social groups his 'debate' causes harm to. And how his need to hear his own voice reliably outweighs that.
I don’t follow PS, or anybody, for that matter, but he does seem to appear in NZ media more than occasionally …
What groups (plural) are singled out and ‘victimised’ by his debates and do you think this is deliberate and intentional? Seems a bit of a contradiction to the PR around his visit and journal!?
In his book Practical Ethics, Singer argues the case for selective infanticide. He deems it unfair that "At present parents can choose to keep or destroy their disabled offspring only if the disability happens to be detected during pregnancy.14/08/2012 The case against Peter Singer – ABC News
However, Associate Minister of Health Ayesha Verrall told the House that financial support was offered to Laura Fergusson Trust. “No discussion was able to be entered into, because the trust informed the Ministry of Health that its decision was final,” Verrall said.
It seems impossible for people to make the reasoned moral judgments that must be made if we are to have any moral judgments at all. It is likely that the PTB will harden, throw their hands up in the air and say the matter is beyond them, and those who are unhappy can get some funds and carry out their own nursing and caring. But then, that is already happening and it will become more burdensome as help is lessened and people are unwilling to face their situation.
I'm always leery of comments about someone else having "no hope of a life" especially when based on perceived quality of life (rather than whether the body is in a condition consistent with the continuation of life). It tends to be a rather subjective assessment.
Now, personally, most babies only a few months old are largely uninteresting and unimpressive, especially prems. But there are two main differences between a born baby and pregnancy: they don't rely on someone else's body to live (by and large), and the birth delineation is a convenient ledge on an otherwise slippery slope.
The other less logical difference is "what sort of person makes a clinical decision to actively kill a baby that would otherwise live with only normal feeding and suchlike? I mean, scalpel? Drug injection? Seriously, wtf?"
I get palliative care for a baby that just has too much going on to survive, but Singer's idea seems to be actively deciding for another person that their quality of life is so unbearable they should die. The bit that the euthenasia act doesn't allow ("be competent to make an informed decision about assisted dying.").
Ah. So. The Gospel according to Greywarshark seems to state that killing a disabled baby is the bestest way of preventing abuse and neglect of that baby by a caregiver in the future.
AND, the $$$ that were being paid for that shitty care would have been better spent on those disabled folk with at least some hope of rehabilitation. Like the young woman tragically made a quadriplegic after a horse riding accident.
Here endeth the moral lessons from Greywarshark for today.
(Oh, a quadriplegic sitting in his chair to my right has a few choice words on this…but good manners prevent me passing them on.)
I have no issue at all with those who comment anonymously who are respectful and engage in good faith.
Although occasionally I do wonder exactly what reputation or position some other anonymous commentators are trying to protect.
Someone who claims the moral, reasoned high ground in advocating for the killing of disabled babies who have "no life" (and adds in an extra societal benefit in that the saved dollars can go towards supporting the clearly more worthy injured) must surely have spine enough to put their actual name and face to their views.
Those straight utilitarians are just a pain in the ass. They have so much in common with the more scientifically bogus parts of New Public Management theory in terms of inputs and outputs being applied to social outcomes.
You know Max, don’t you? He doesn’t register in the polls yet but his daddy still does. National can do with an aspiring DJ because JC makes awful scratchy noises, like an old broken LP on a wonky turntable.
Odd. A Radionz interview between Jesse Mulligan and Fed Farmers David Clark cannot be accessed as audio on Live Canterbury Flooding owing to 'copyright restrictions'.
A Radionz piece can't be repeated on another RNZ piece for copyright restrictions to whom? Is Radionz fragmenting and selling off pieces of itself to the National Radio listeners disadvantage? Is it dividing into units with each one making sufficient money to meet a target?
That is a fascinating theory but what do you base it on? There are 8 members on the Board. Only 2 of them were appointed by the then National Government. They were in December 2015 and September 2017.
The other 6 were all appointed after that date. In other words 6 of the 8, including the Chairman, were appointed by a Labour led Government. You are pretty desperate if you really think that 2 people can order the Board around aren't you?
I suppose that a leak was inevitable. With the matter, whatever it is, being passed on tt at least Hipkins and Mallard under the "No surprises" policy it would only be a matter of when, not if, it was leaked I would surmise.
It is of course time that Smith retired. He has been in the House since 1990 and that is certainly long enough for anyone. It is just a pity that Mallard doesn't go out the door with him. He has been there since 1984 after all. He really ought to be cast out into the outer darkness shouldn't he? Surely there is some senior figure in the Labour Party who can take heed of Eliot's words and ask "Who will rid me of this turbulent prat"
Then Trevor and Nick could be put out to pasture together. Let them spend their remaining time in the sunshine, even if they are really old bulls suitable only for the knacker's yard.
alwyn, why are you trying to blame Hipkins and Mallard? How does it have anything to do with them? In 3 and half years in government Labour haven't leaked a thing about National, so how do you know it wasn't someone within the National party? after all, doesn't National have form in that regard?
" In 3 and half years in government Labour haven't leaked a thing about National".
Ah what blissful belief in the purity of your chosen party. You don't really believe that do you? I mean seriously think that the Labour MPs are truly that saintly. The only way I would think your statement could be true would be if you extend to the whole group of MPs Helen Clark's immortal claim. " "It is a matter of judgment for the Prime Minister how I use information from official reports; by definition I cannot leak.".
Ah what blissful belief in the purity of your chosen party. You don't really believe that do you?
Alwyn, can you move this beyond what you believe? I agree it seems unlikely that, since winning the 2017 general election, Labour hasn't leaked anything about National, but (in the absence of evidence), it could be true – no?
Opposition National party people are sooo leaky; their 'leak prowess' is now the stuff of legend – yes Merv, I'm looking at you. What’s a ‘Labour leaker’ to do?
John Key: If you can't quit leaking, quit National
Former Prime Minister Sir John Key has a staunch message to any National MPs who continue to leak against the party: "If you can't quit leaking, quit the party".
Are you now suggesting that John Key doesn't lie, or at least sometimes doesn't lie?
from Sir (Honest) John Key's 2020 imperative "If you can't quit leaking, quit the [National] party".
Reckon it would be difficult to lie about everything; even inveterate liars can sometimes tell the truth – maybe this was such an occasion.
Btw, while you may consider inveterate' to be an appropriate descriptor of this particular 'Key habit', I would prefer 'shameless' – works for me thee.
But I've gone off topic:
Alwyn, can you move this beyond what you believe? I agree it seems unlikely that, since winning the 2017 general election, Labour hasn't leaked anything about National, but (in the absence of evidence), it could be true – no?
There must be at least one documented example – how difficult can it be?
Its not about Helen Clark though. Its been Jacinda's policy since coming into government that whatever involves the National party it's their business and despite media efforts to draw commentary from the PM Et al in her government they dont leak and neither do they put the boot in. Just because National are inclined to do it doesn't mean every other party does. The Greens don't do it either.
As usual, you’re all over the place, diverting, dodging, denying, but never answering the question with a straight answer. You, Sir, are not debating here, you are trolling again.
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The Ides of March brought me COVID followed by a bereavement. No wonder they tell you to be careful of them.I’m home now and have resumed the interrupted recuperation. Very much looking forward to getting back to regular things. Meanwhile, some thoughts…OneThis new Prime Minister guy just keeps getting more dire. ...
News that the Chinese ATP 40 cyber-hacking unit penetrated parliamentary internet networks in 2021 has renewed concerns about the PRC’s malign intentions in Aotearoa. But is the hack that significant given the length of time that has passed since its … Continue reading → ...
When Parliament passed the Intelligence and security Act in 2017, they assured us all that it was full of safeguards. Any intrusive surveillance of New Zealanders would be subject to a "triple lock", requiring the approval of the Minister and (supposedly independent) Commissioner of Intelligence Warrants, as well as post-facto ...
Eric Crampton writes – Richard Harman’s Politik newsletter provides a bit of the context that ought to have been showing up in other media reports on potential reductions in public service staffing. Media has been reporting on staffing cuts on the order of about 7%. Is that ...
Mike Grimshaw writes – It’s becoming increasingly apparent that many perceive free speech to have become the preserve of the politically right wing, the religiously conservative, the libertarian fringe, the anti-trans, the anti-Māori and…. well, just fill in with whatever groups or individuals you don’t like and don’t ...
Don Brash writes – As everybody who is not blind and deaf is aware, there is a huge political preoccupation with climate change at the moment, a widespread (though by no means unanimous) belief that global temperatures are rising mainly as a result of the greenhouse gases created ...
TL;DR: My six things to note in Aotearoa’s political economy on Wednesday, March 27 include:Chris Bishop laid out his vision for filling Aotearoa-NZ’s $100 billion infrastructure deficit in a speech yesterday, emphasising user pays and private funding, but failed to say how to achieve bipartisanship on population, public borrowing and ...
Bryce Edwards writes – Former Finance Minister Grant Robertson and former Prime Minister Chris Hipkins have been conveying how unhappy they are with the tax system. Last week in his valedictory speech, Robertson called for the introduction of a wealth or capital gains tax. And this week Hipkins ...
On February 14, 2023 we announced our Rebuttal Update Project. This included an ask for feedback about the added "At a glance" section in the updated basic rebuttal versions. This weekly blog post series highlights this new section of one of the updated basic rebuttal versions and serves as a ...
Buzz from the Beehive China has loomed large in Beehive considerations over the past 24 hours, largely because of that country’s mischief-making in the cyber espionage department. Two media statements emerged on that subject hard on the heels of the PM baulking at questions put to him on RNZ’s Morning ...
Chris Trotter writes – WHY IS THE NATIONAL PARTY doing so much for landlords, property developers, trucking, and construction companies, and so little for everybody who isn’t already pretty well-off? It’s as if protecting landlords’ investments and building apartments and roads now constitute the whole of National’s ...
Bryce Edwards writes – When she was campaigning to be Minister of Finance last year, Nicola Willis pledged that she would resign from the job if she failed to deliver tax cuts in her first Budget. Now, it’s that pledge, along with Prime Minister Christopher Luxon’s ...
Robert MacCulloch writes – The Reserve Bank has doubled staff numbers in five years to 510, with personnel costs rising to $80 million in 2023 from $32 million in 2018 – up by a whopping 150%. I guess when you print $50 billion and flood markets with liquidity, ...
The furore. In case you didn’t notice there was a controversy in the weekend involving dolphins in a little town off the South Island. Don’t panic, they haven’t declared independence and resumed whaling, this was simply a sailing event.The problem began when racing was cancelled on the opening day of ...
For 20 years or more, the case for a meaningful capital tax gains has been mulled over and analysed to death, including by the tax working group chaired by Sir Michael Cullen. More than once, the International Monetary Fund has said a CGT would be a good idea for New ...
TL;DR: My top 10 news and analysis links this morning include:Today’s must-read: The Public Health Communications Centre (PHCC) call for urgent preventive action and a risk assessment survey of long covid in this briefing noteLocal scoop: NZ road deaths surpass OECD rates, so why is the govt reversing safety plans? ...
This story was originally published by Grist and is part of Covering Climate Now, a global journalism collaboration strengthening coverage of the climate story. This story is part of a collaboration with Grist and WABE to demystify the Georgia Public Service Commission, the small but powerful state-elected board that makes critical decisions about everything from raising ...
This is a guest post from Robert McLachlan Global warming is accelerating; 2023 was off the charts. We need to stop burning fossil fuels. In New Zealand, transport accounts for half of all fossil fuels burnt. In the Emissions Reduction Plan, transport emissions fall 41% by 2035. As the ...
Labour productivity has been receding rapidly over the past two years, reversing a post-lockdown rise. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: My six things to note in Aotearoa’s political economy as at 6:26am on Tuesday, March 26 include:Workers have been treading water in output per hour worked for 12 years, ...
TL;DR: The key events to watch in Aotearoa-NZ’s political economy in the week to April 2 include:Today, Parliament resumes sitting at 2pm for the second week of a two-week session. Officials for SIS and GCSB report their annual reviews in public to the Intelligence and Security Select Committee from 5.10pm.Tomorrow, ...
Faced with a barrage of criticism over the promised tax cuts from usually supportive commentators, Finance Minister Nicola Willis yesterday reaffirmed her intention to include them in this year’s Budget. The Government is up against it over the cuts just about every way it turns. Commentators like Fran O’Sullivan, Matthew ...
Here’s my pick of today’s substack posts as of 6:26pm on Monday, March 25: writes via his substack that Market-rate housing will make your city cheaper writes via his substack about the problems talking to double-cab ute (truck) drivers about their vehicles. today about moments of radicalisation in ...
Buzz from the Beehive Just before Christmas, Finance Minister Nicola Willis delivered something that was pitched as a mini-budget and brayed about the decisive action being taken to repair the Government books and support income tax relief in Budget 2024. In a statement headed Fiscal repair job underway. she introduced ...
My sister Belinda asked Dad yesterday what one word would describe Mum best. He said: vivacious.If you only knew her from the photos on the slideshow we've made for today,you might wonder about that, because the camera tended to lie with Mum.If ever she saw a camera pointed at her, she ...
There are two major public consultations closing in the next week, Auckland Council’s Long Term Plan (LTP), and the draft Government Policy Statement on Land Transport (GPS). Closing dates and times: LTP closes Thursday 28 February, at 11.59pm – a minute to midnight! GPS closes Tuesday 2 April, at 12pm noon – note that’s ...
From Kiwiblog’s David Farrar – Bryce Wilkinson writes: Senior Fellow Bryce Wilkinson’s analysis reveals that since March 2009, New Zealand has spent $158 billion more overseas than it has earned, but its NIIP has only fallen by $32 billion.Statistics New Zealand shows that receipts from overseas reinsurers have ...
Is she hinting that the Coalition Government will have to back down on key promises it made in Opposition? Brian Easton writes – The Minister of Finance, Nicola Willis, is telling an evolving story about her fiscal challenges. In Opposition she was confident that she could ...
Dear Nicola Willis,Right now you’ve probably got lots of competing demands coming at you. Ministers who’ve inherited quite a mess, or so you’ve told us, looking for money in the budget to improve things. I imagine that’s why they came to parliament - to make things better.You’ll have to make ...
The Local Government, Transport and Auckland Minister hasthreatened councils with intervention if they don’t merge water assets to take them off balance sheet, just as the now-repealed Three Waters plan directed. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: My six things of note this morning for Monday, March 25 include:Simeon ...
A listing of 36 news and opinion articles we found interesting and shared on social media during the past week: Sun, March 17, 2024 thru Sat, March 23, 2024. Story of the week Thanks to John Mason having the stamina to sit down to watch "Climate - the Movie" ...
This morning the Q&A programme had Simeon Brown on to talk about National’s replacement for Three Waters. In case anyone’s forgotten the three are - drinking water, waste water, and sewerage. It’s quite important not to get them mixed up. In much the same way that you wouldn’t want to ...
Today’s newsletter comes with a mini-podcast conversation between me and my buddy Liv Tennet, talking about her time as a child actor in Lord of the Rings. It’s a conversation with a lot of giggles as she talks about falling off a horse, and becoming a meme. Read ...
The Desmog Climate Disinformation Database documents, "individuals and organisations that have helped to delay and distract the public and our elected leaders from taking needed action to reduce greenhouse gas pollution and fight global warming." It's a who's who of the organised climate change denial movement, in other words. In ...
Bob Edlin writes – A High Court judge has decided miscreants who have mana – or who claim to have mana – should be treated differently from miscreants who have none. It’s a ruling that suggests indigenous law-breakers have a better chance of securing a discharge without conviction ...
Welcome to the first, and possibly last, edition of Brickbats, Bouquets and Bull’s Wool. In which I’ll take a look at the events of the last week or so, and rate them.In such ratings the numbers usually have more to do with the opinions of the reviewer, than the actual ...
Roger Partridge writes – My earlier column this month, New Zealand’s highest court could be facing a turning point, prompted a flood of feedback from business readers and lawyers alike. A common query was what Parliament can do to restrain an overreaching judiciary. This week I discuss two steps Parliament ...
TL;DR: In today’s ‘six-stack’ of substacks at 6.16pm on Friday, March 22: writes about New Zealand's Building Boom—And What the World Must Learn From It over at his substack. challenges the Auckland Council’s use of a 3.8 degrees of warming forecast to oppose a wave-park and data centre project ...
Is she hinting that the Coalition Government will have to back down on key promises it made in Opposition?The Minister of Finance, Nicola Willis, is telling an evolving story about her fiscal challenges. In Opposition she was confident that she could deliver her promised income tax cuts. Appointed minister, she ...
Buzz from the Beehive Ministers of the Crown have drawn attention to one sector of the science sector which is unlikely to be subjected to heavy spending cuts, a state-funded broadcaster which is doing nicely, thank you, and a sporting event that had $5.4 million from the public purse puffed ...
Abbott’s Freestyle Libre sensors allow continuous glucose monitoring (CGM). The sensor is applied to the back of the patient’s arm, with a thin filament under the skin measuring glucose levels constantly. But it costs around $100 per sensor and must be replaced once every 14 days. Photo by BSIP/Universal Images ...
The Inspector General of Intelligence and Security (IGIS) recently released a report in which he exposes the existence of a foreign intelligence partner-controlled technological “capability” inside the headquarters of the GCSB, NZ’s 5 Eyes-affiliated signals intelligence collection and analysis agency. … Continue reading → ...
Peter Dunne writes – Nearly three decades after the introduction of MMP and multiparty governments there should be a greater level of understanding about their finer points than often appears to be the case. The reaction to the despicable outburst from the Deputy Prime Minister at the weekend highlights ...
The sweet kisses from fruit of summerHave slowly been turning dullerYou say, "those times"And "remember the daysWhen we went outside and there still was the shade?"Taking no reason into play…Autumn. Clear, blue days shortening to longer nights, growing colder. Aotearoa.That’s us. The temperature dropping, the looming car crash - so ...
Bryce Edwards writes – “It is often said that behind every great man is a great woman”. This is the pitch by the National Party Botany electorate branch to attend their “Ladies Afternoon Tea with Amanda Luxon”. For $110 including GST, you can turn up on Saturday 20 April ...
David Farrar writes – The Electoral Commission has published the expense returns for political parties for the 2023 election. I’ve put them in a table with how many votes a party got so we can see the spend per vote. National only spent $3.34 for every vote they got, almost ...
Winston Peters’ headline-making actions over the past week may have been a show of political power intended to strengthen his hand in Budget negotiations. It was no accident that his State of the Nation speech was as it was. He made it as New Zealand First Leader, not as Deputy ...
Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: The five things that mattered in Aotearoa’s political economy that we wrote and spoke about via The Kākā and elsewhere for paying subscribers in the last week included:Former Labour Finance Minister Grant Robertson bowed out of politics this week, giving a series of exit ...
Graham Adams writes — If you love the law or sausages, as the saying goes, best not to look too closely at how they are made. And after watching the orgy of self-pity when Newshub’s closure was announced on February 28, television journalism should definitely be added to the list of those ...
Venerable New Zealand political commentator, Chris Trotter (https://bowalleyroad.blogspot.com/), is a sad creature these days. Once one of the most reliable Leftist writers out there – Economic Left at that – Trotter seems to have absorbed the worldview of Auckland culture-war obsessives. It is not for me to categorise what he ...
The cruelty of short-term memory loss is that each time you ask where she is, you get the fresh shock and grief of the news. That was Dad's day yesterday.Comfortingly, it seems to be less so today. Last night he looked crumpled, today he seems more settled. There's a card ...
The Coalition Government’s plan to ‘get Auckland moving’ is a cuts cover-up that will ultimately cost Aucklanders more to move around the city, says Labour Auckland Issues spokesperson Shanan Halbert. ...
Slashing the Ministry of Pacific Peoples by 40% will have a devastating impact on pacific communities and further highlights how little this government cares about anything other than cutting taxes for the wealthiest few. ...
Labour has proposed an urgent inquiry to investigate the ever-increasing profits of supermarkets, aiming to lower costs for shoppers and food producers alike, says Labour Spokesperson for Commerce and Consumer Affairs Arena Williams and Primary Production Spokesperson Cushla Tangaere-Manuel. ...
With 14% of jobs on the line at the Ministry for Ethnic Communities, the responsible Minister Melissa Lee is failing to stand up for the very communities she’s meant to be representing. ...
COURT OF APPEAL: TRIFECTA OF VICTORY FOR NZ FIRST, TRIFECTA OF FAILURE FOR OPPONENTS For the third time since April 2020, New Zealand First has defeated the Serious Fraud Office and all those complicit in a malicious attack against a political party going about its lawful business in a lawful ...
The Green Party stands with people who live in public housing, people in dire housing need, experts and advocates in demanding better than the Government’s archaic approach to housing those who need our support the most. ...
New Zealand has recently lost the hosting rights of some major international sporting events including the America’s Cup, the Rugby Championship, Netball World Cup, and the Wellington Sevens. We are now at a huge risk of losing SailGP as well. And it won’t stop there. The recent issues with SailGP ...
A Member’s Bill drawn this week would modernise insurance law and make things fairer and more transparent for consumers, Christchurch Central MP Duncan Webb said. ...
The Minister for Disability Issues has confirmed she was aware of funding issues in mid-December and did nothing to stop it. On 14 March, she signed off on changes that were announced and implemented on 18 March without any consultation with disability communities. ...
Green Party MP Julie Anne Genter says her members' bill is an opportunity for the coalition government to plug the gap in electric vehicle incentives. ...
The National Government continues to talk about irresponsible tax cuts that will only drive up inflation, despite the country entering a technical recession. ...
The Minister for Disability Issues must act urgently to reinstate flexibility around the funding for disability support and apologise to disabled carers. ...
This story has been initiated by a leftie shill reporter who proactively sought to call a member of a former band, which disbanded twelve years ago, give their biased appraisal of what was said in my speech, and concocted a ham-fisted attempt at a story that does nothing but show ...
The Government has accepted Labour’s change to the Road User Charge (RUC) discount for hybrid vehicles, meaning there will still be some incentive for people to buy greener vehicles. ...
Many in the mainstream media have taken what was said in New Zealand First’s State of the Nation Speech in Palmerston North on Sunday and deliberately, deceitfully, and ignorantly misrepresented what I said and why I said it. The headlines and commentary on the news stated that I compared ‘co-governance ...
Kicking the most vulnerable people out of state housing and pushing them towards homelessness will result in a proliferation of poverty and trauma across our most vulnerable communities. ...
Te Pāti Māori co-leader and MP for Waiariki, Rawiri Waititi has penned a letter asking MPs to support his members bill to remove GST from all food. The bill is expected to go through its first reading in parliament this Wednesday. “I’m calling on all political parties to support my ...
Good afternoon. Thank you for, in your very busy lives, turning up to this meeting today. On October 14th last year New Zealanders overwhelmingly voted for change. That is exactly what this new government is bringing. New Zealand First campaigned to ‘take back our country’ and stop the disastrous economic ...
This year is about getting real with Kiwis and discussing the tough issues, as the National Government exacerbates inequality and divides New Zealand, Labour Leader Chris Hipkins said ...
The Government adding Significant Natural Areas (SNAs) to its already roaring environmental policy bonfire is an assault on the future of wildlife that makes Aotearoa unique. ...
After 12 years of fighting to protect our moana we are finding ourselves back at square one and back at court. Today, the Environmental Protection Agency is sitting in Hawera to reconsider an application from Trans-Tasman Resources to dig up 50 million tonnes of the seabed in South Taranaki. This ...
Minister Shane Jones’ decision to step away from a seabed mining project is evidence of the murky waters surrounding the Government’s fast-track legislation. ...
The growth of Treaty of Waitangi clauses in legislation caused so much worry that a special oversight group was set up by the last government in a bid to get greater coherence in the publicservice on Treaty matters. When ministers first considered the need for tighter oversight in 2021, there ...
The growth of Treaty of Waitangi clauses in legislation caused so much worry that a special oversight group was set up by the last government in a bid to get greater coherence in the publicservice on Treaty matters. When ministers first considered the need for tighter oversight in 2021, there ...
The Coalition Government’s miscalculation saga continues as it has forgotten an eyewatering $90 million gap in its interest deductibility cost figures, say Labour Finance spokesperson Barbara Edmonds and Revenue Spokesperson Deborah Russell. ...
He Pou a Rangi Climate Change Commission has today released advice that says if the Government doesn’t act now New Zealand is at risk of not meeting its climate goals. ...
The Coalition Government has today confirmed it is abandoning first home buyers who are struggling to get ahead, says Labour Finance spokesperson Barbara Edmonds. ...
Transport Minister Simeon Brown has welcomed the passing of legislation to move light electric vehicles (EVs) and plug-in hybrid electric vehicles (PHEVs) into the road user charges system from 1 April. “It was always intended that EVs and PHEVs would be exempt from road user charges until they reached two ...
New Zealand is strengthening its ability to combat illegal fishing outside its domestic waters and beef up regulation for its own commercial fishers in international waters through a Bill which had its first reading in Parliament today. The Fisheries (International Fishing and Other Matters) Amendment Bill 2023 sets out stronger ...
Economists Carl Hansen and Professor Prasanna Gai have been appointed to the Reserve Bank Monetary Policy Committee, Finance Minister Nicola Willis announced today. The Monetary Policy Committee (MPC) is the independent decision-making body that sets the Official Cash Rate which determines interest rates. Carl Hansen, the executive director of Capital ...
Apartment owners and buyers will soon have greater protections as further changes to the law on unit titles come into effect, Housing Minister Chris Bishop says. “The Unit Titles (Strengthening Body Corporate Governance and Other Matters) Amendment Act had already introduced some changes in December 2022 and May 2023, and ...
Foreign Minister Winston Peters will travel to Egypt and Europe from this weekend. “This travel will focus on a range of New Zealand’s traditional diplomatic and security partnerships while enabling broad engagement on the urgent situation in Gaza,” Mr Peters says. Mr Peters will attend the NATO Foreign ...
Transport Minister Simeon Brown is encouraging all road users to stay safe, plan their journeys ahead of time, and be patient with other drivers while travelling around this Easter long weekend. “Road safety is a responsibility we all share, and with increased traffic on our roads expected this Easter we ...
About 1.4 million New Zealanders will receive cost of living relief through increased government assistance from April 1 909,000 pensioners get a boost to Superannuation, including 5000 veterans 371,000 working-age beneficiaries will get higher payments 45,000 students will see an increase in their allowance Over a quarter of New Zealanders ...
Ensuring social housing is being provided to those with the greatest needs is front of mind as the Government restarts social housing tenancy reviews, Associate Housing Minister Tama Potaka says. “Our relentless focus on building a strong economy is to ensure we can deliver better public services such as social ...
The Kermadec Ocean Sanctuary will not go ahead, with Cabinet deciding to stop work on the proposed reserve and remove the Bill that would have established it from Parliament’s order paper. “The Kermadec Ocean Sanctuary Bill would have created a 620,000 sq km economic no-go zone,” Oceans and Fisheries Minister ...
Dam safety regulations are being amended so that smaller dams won’t be subject to excessive compliance costs, Minister for Building and Construction Chris Penk says. “The coalition Government is focused on reducing costs and removing unnecessary red tape so we can get the economy back on track. “Dam safety regulations ...
The coalition Government is expanding the medium-scale adverse event classification to parts of the North Island as dry weather conditions persist, Agriculture Minister Todd McClay announced today. “I have made the decision to expand the medium-scale adverse event classification already in place for parts of the South Island to also cover the ...
The passing of legislation giving effect to coalition Government tax commitments has been welcomed by Finance Minister Nicola Willis. “The Taxation (Annual Rates for 2023–24, Multinational Tax, and Remedial Matters) Bill will help place New Zealand on a more secure economic footing, improve outcomes for New Zealanders, and make our tax system ...
Science, Innovation and Technology Minister Judith Collins and Tertiary Education and Skills Minister Penny Simmonds today announced plans to transform our science and university sectors to boost the economy. Two advisory groups, chaired by Professor Sir Peter Gluckman, will advise the Government on how these sectors can play a greater ...
The Budget will deliver urgently-needed tax relief to hard-working New Zealanders while putting the government’s finances back on a sustainable track, Finance Minister Nicola Willis says. The Finance Minister made the comments at the release of the Budget Policy Statement setting out the Government’s Budget objectives. “The coalition Government intends ...
The coalition Government will look at options to address a zoning issue that limits how much financial support Queenstown residents can get for accommodation. Cabinet has agreed on a response to the Petitions Committee, which had recommended the geographic information MSD uses to determine how much accommodation supplement can be ...
Cabinet has agreed to a short extension to the final reporting timeframe for the Royal Commission into Abuse in Care from 28 March 2024 to 26 June 2024, Internal Affairs Minister Brooke van Velden says. “The Royal Commission wrote to me on 16 February 2024, requesting that I consider an ...
The coalition Government is delivering an $18 million boost to New Zealanders needing to travel for specialist health treatment, Health Minister Dr Shane Reti says. “These changes are long overdue – the National Travel Assistance (NTA) scheme saw its last increase to mileage and accommodation rates way back in 2009. ...
The Government is recognising the innovative and rising talent in New Zealand’s growing space sector, with the Prime Minister and Space Minister Judith Collins announcing the new Prime Minister’s Prizes for Space today. “New Zealand has a growing reputation as a high-value partner for space missions and research. I am ...
Foreign Minister Winston Peters has confirmed New Zealand’s concerns about cyber activity have been conveyed directly to the Chinese Government. “The Prime Minister and Minister Collins have expressed concerns today about malicious cyber activity, attributed to groups sponsored by the Chinese Government, targeting democratic institutions in both New ...
Independent Reviewers appointed for School Property Inquiry Education Minister Erica Stanford today announced the appointment of three independent reviewers to lead the Ministerial Inquiry into the Ministry of Education’s School Property Function. The Inquiry will be led by former Minister of Foreign Affairs Murray McCully. “There is a clear need ...
State Highway 1 across the Brynderwyns will be open for Easter weekend, with work currently underway to ensure the resilience of this critical route being paused for Easter Weekend to allow holiday makers to travel north, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says. “Today I visited the Brynderwyn Hills construction site, where ...
Introduction Good morning to you all, and thanks for having me bright and early today. I am absolutely delighted to be the Minister for Infrastructure alongside the Minister of Housing and Resource Management Reform. I know the Prime Minister sees the three roles as closely connected and he wants me ...
New Zealand stands with the United Kingdom in its condemnation of People’s Republic of China (PRC) state-backed malicious cyber activity impacting its Electoral Commission and targeting Members of the UK Parliament. “The use of cyber-enabled espionage operations to interfere with democratic institutions and processes anywhere is unacceptable,” Minister Responsible for ...
Foreign Minister Winston Peters and Defence Minister Judith Collins today announced New Zealand will provide logistics support for the upcoming Solomon Islands election. “We’re sending a team of New Zealand Defence Force personnel and two NH90 helicopters to provide logistics support for the election on 17 April, at the request ...
The European Union Free Trade Agreement Legislation Amendment Bill received Royal Assent today, completing the process for New Zealand’s ratification of its free trade agreement with the European Union. “I am pleased to announce that today, in a small ceremony at the Beehive, New Zealand notified the European Union ...
Public consultation on the terms of reference for the Royal Commission into COVID-19 Lessons has concluded, Internal Affairs Minister Hon Brooke van Velden says. “I have been advised that there were over 11,000 submissions made through the Royal Commission’s online consultation portal.” Expanding the scope of the Royal Commission of ...
Hardworking families are set to benefit from a new credit to help them meet their early childcare education (ECE) costs, Finance Minister Nicola Willis says. From 1 July, parents and caregivers of young children will be supported to manage the rising cost of living with a partial reimbursement of their ...
A specialised Independent Technical Advisory Group (ITAG) tasked with preparing and publishing independent non-binding advice on the design of a "green" (sustainable finance) taxonomy rulebook is being established, Climate Change Minister Simon Watts says. “Comprising experts and market participants, the ITAG's primary goal is to deliver comprehensive recommendations to the ...
Defence Minister Judith Collins has thanked the Chief of Army, Major General John Boswell, DSD, for his service as he leaves the Army after 40 years. “I would like to thank Major General Boswell for his contribution to the Army and the wider New Zealand Defence Force, undertaking many different ...
25 March 2024 Minister to meet Australian counterparts and Manufacturing Industry Leaders Small Business, Manufacturing, Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister Andrew Bayly will travel to Australia for a series of bi-lateral meetings and manufacturing visits. During the visit, Minister Bayly will meet with his Australian counterparts, Senator Tim Ayres, Ed ...
Government commits almost $3 million for period products in schools The Coalition Government has committed $2.9 million to ensure intermediate and secondary schools continue providing period products to those who need them, Minister of Education Erica Stanford announced today. “This is an issue of dignity and ensuring young women don’t ...
Good morning, it’s great to be here. First, I would like to acknowledge the New Zealand Institute of Building Surveyors and thank you for the opportunity to be here this morning. I would like to use this opportunity to outline the Government’s ambitious plan and what we hope to ...
Minister for Pacific Peoples Dr Shane Reti has announced the Government’s commitment to the Auckland Secondary Schools Māori and Pacific Islands Cultural Festival, more commonly known as Polyfest. “The Ministry for Pacific Peoples is a longtime supporter of Polyfest and, as it celebrates 49 years in 2024, I’m proud to ...
Before moving onto the substance of today’s address, I want to recognise the very significant and ongoing contribution the Breast Cancer Foundation makes to support the lives of New Zealand women and their families living with breast cancer. I very much enjoy working with you. I also want to recognise ...
New Zealand has notched up a first with the launch of University of Canterbury research to the International Space Station, Science, Innovation and Technology and Space Minister Judith Collins says. The hardware, developed by Dr Sarah Kessans, is designed to operate autonomously in orbit, allowing scientists on Earth to study ...
Introduction Thank you for inviting me to speak with you today and I’m sorry I can’t be there in person. Yesterday I started in Wellington for Breakfast TV, spoke to a property conference in Auckland, and finished the day speaking to local government in Christchurch, so it would have been ...
The Coalition Government is contributing more than $1 million to support the establishment of an emergency multi-agency coordination centre in Northland. Emergency Management and Recovery Minister Mark Mitchell announced the contribution today during a visit of the Whangārei site where the facility will be constructed. “Northland has faced a number ...
New Zealanders have enjoyed a broader range of voices telling the story of Aotearoa thanks to the creation of Whakaata Māori 20 years ago, says Māori Development Minister Tama Potaka. The minister spoke at a celebration marking the national indigenous media organisation’s 20th anniversary at their studio in Auckland on ...
Commercial catch limits for some fisheries have been increased following a review showing stocks are healthy and abundant, Ocean and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones says. The changes, along with some other catch limit changes and management settings, begin coming into effect from 1 April 2024. "Regular biannual reviews of fish ...
Opposition MPs and unions are criticising a proposal by New Zealand’s Ministry of Pacific Peoples to cut staff by 40 percent. The country’s largest trade union — The Public Service Association — says the ministry has informed staff that it is looking to shed 63 of 156 positions. Opposition MPs ...
A poem by Poetry Aotearoa Yearbook 2024 featured poet Carin Smeaton. Daughtr of the 90s when she gets promoted to usherette a baby blu eel carries her all the way up to mothership she’s hovering high she lets the underaged in to see keanu reeves she lets the only lonely ...
Analysis by Keith Rankin. Keith Rankin, trained as an economic historian, is a retired lecturer in Economics and Statistics. He lives in Auckland, New Zealand. My earlier article – Can ‘Good’ be the Greater Evil? – looked at the issue of how wars should end, and how Good versus Evil ...
The only published and available best-selling indie book chart in New Zealand is the top 10 sales list recorded every week at Unity Books’ stores in High St, Auckland, and Willis St, Wellington.AUCKLAND1 AMMA by Saraid de Silva (Moa Press, $38)A stunning debut novel reviewed by Brannavan ...
From Steve Martin to Ricky Stanicky, a pick’n’mix of things worth watching and listening to this long weekend. This is an excerpt from our weekly pop culture newsletter Rec Room. Sign up here. If you’re at a loss for something to occupy yourself with this Easter, don’t panic: The Spinoff’s got ...
Jesus had dinner with his 12 disciples right before he died. Noted historian Madeleine Chapman finds out who really deserved to be there.First published in 2018 but let’s be honest, the subject is timeless. As you sit on your couch this Easter Sunday, eating a chocolate egg you know ...
The newly-promoted Northern League club is on a mission to return to the National League for the first time in two decades. Plenty about domestic football in New Zealand has changed in that time – but the sense that this amateur competition is not an entirely level playing field remains. ...
NONFICTION 1 BBQ Economics by Liam Dann (Penguin Random House, $40) “It’s official,” wrote Dann nine days ago in the Herald, where he works as business editor at large, “we’re in recession.” Yeah, great. He delivered the bad stats: “GDP fell 0.1 percent in the December 2023 quarter, compared with ...
Comment: Every year on February 2, a dozen men in tuxedos and top hats approach the burrow of a groundhog in Gobbler’s Knob, Pennsylvania and entice the beaver-like rodent to emerge and predict the weather. If the groundhog, named Punxsutawney Phil, sees its own shadow when it is summoned, legend ...
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Bikes and babies 🙂
https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/parenting/baby/125276498/green-mp-julie-anne-genter-pregnant-with-second-child-you-have-kids-out-of-love
Busy
https://twitter.com/WomenInUrbanism/status/1398837018604425219
If would be funny but as traffic flows are what they are to see a bunch of selfish liberals think of their agenda at the cost to the many. To want a lane closed and set up barriers for a trial for a very few cyclists to take over a lane especially when the bridge during peak flows is already inadequate. Circle 5 kms either side of the bridge at guess how few cyclists travel between the circle weekdays.
sure the next crossing include this for the selescted few who would utilise this. But not the current crossing.
where is the business case to support this ??
Ps hope all goes well for JAG pregency
Do humans need a ‘business case’ for having babies? Not all impacts can and should be limited and reduced to simple dollar terms; this is where our current economic ideologies are counter-productive [no pun]. Ironically, today the report from the Climate Change Commission will be presented today. What will the ‘business case’ be, I wonder …
Ffs sake relax. I was taking about the bikes and bridges.
Chill. Exactly! You were talking about material stuff only. Just as well Government didn’t wait for Treasury or the RBNZ to prepare a ‘business case’ when it had to act last year. Maybe lives are more important than a ‘business case’? Neo-liberal thinking is so reductionist, short-termist, selfish, and shallow; makes for a good ‘business case’, doesn’t it?
Bikes and babies. A great way of spreading schmaltz on a serious economic and structural problem. Great middle class self-interest combining with future-needed requirements it seems to me. The women can rise for bikes and the environment, but are they there for poor mothers struggling for better conditions trying to balance babies and work and shelter and despair?
If women do have finer feelings and compassion for those women needing help in their community and wider society, it would be seen in great mass shows of concern and solidarity for the strugglers as noticeable and determined as for bike use. But bikes are now the sacred objects to be worshipped and nice people ride them; often rather unpleasant mothers battle with social problems and a dead-centred welfare system, they are not like nice middle-class people, not 'one of us'.
As with all major crises, the poor are always hardest hit. Climate Change will be no different and possibly worse than anything before.
A perfectly timed signal for the release of the Climate Commission roadmap to the government today.
Also nice to see a sitting government MP do a bit of gentle civil disobedience to push a policy point.
I wonder if Ms Genter considered the effect on the climate of her actions?
How embarrassing if a recommendation in the Climate Commission Report says we should reduce our use of Air Travel?
I understand she lives in Wellington. She would appear to have made a return trip from Wellington to Auckland, almost certainly by plane and at taxpayer expense to take part in this exercise. How much CO2 would this have generated?
Shouldn't someone who purports to care about the effect of mankind on the climate reduce her travel to whatever is really necessary?
It is called off-setting (AKA compensating) and doing her job as Green MP.
Stop you concern trolling with your disingenuous accusations of hypocrisy; a sure sign that you have nothing better than pathetic snide remarks.
Offsetting, is that the thing were rich tossers sooth their conscience by fucking rural communities with their pines while kicking the cc can down the rd, ??
Some folk use that ‘definition’, because it suits them.
Some folk like to lie to them selves,
12.15pm
So the Greens can litter & pollute because they are the greens ? I might join the Greens !! This offset sounds like a great idea.
With such a profound misunderstanding I’d suggest ACT might be a better fit for you or else, National.
Just curious alwyn – do you care about "the effect of mankind on the climate"?
This seems to be a bit of a bugbear for you. First Thunberg, now Genter.
Some MPs are simultaneously servile and self-serving – Genter is neither, imho.
"Shouldn't someone who purports to care about the effect of mankind on the climate reduce her travel to whatever is really necessary?"
Necessary for what?
Ouch! Don't think there'll be any Pink Floyd music at the TYT offices for a while
One of the few rock stars who actually has an intelligent opinion about anything is Roger Waters. He's just brought the hammer down on some especially obnoxious and foolish Russiagaters…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eztdgGYcOrY
Yea, big thumbs up.
Roger Waters is great–he must really piss off a number of people.
He inspires many more. The people he "pisses off" do not represent anything like a significant number; they know that as well as we do. Fevered denunciation and smearing, like Ana Kasparian and Mr. Uygur reflexively do in this clip, are all they have to offer.
Hi Morrissey, don't know if you saw this from Matt Taibbi?, it is of course a very very long list…
Master List Of Official Russia Claims That Proved To Be Bogus
https://taibbi.substack.com/p/aaugh-a-brief-list-of-official-russia
This was also worth watching…
Russiagate target Kilimnik speaks out on 'spy' claims, Trump-Russia conspiracy theories
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaPKvCUcrLM
Yes, I saw that thanks Adrian. Wonder if Jesse Mulligan or Kim Hill or Kathryn Ryan will interview Matt Taibbi or Aaron Maté or Max Blumenthal some time in the near future. Or are they going to stick with the likes of Jonathan Freedland , Anne Applebaum and Alistair Campbell?
Bryce Edwards is simply using this piece as a stalking horse to launder far right talking points around "free speech” into mainstream discourse.
The clear implication that "the left" is responsible for the culture wars is nonsense. The origin of the culture wars lies in the political realignment of poor whites in the US South from the early sixties on as a reaction to the civil rights movement.
Of course, if you are a shill of the right it suits to project blame onto someone else if your desire is for a culture war on "free speech" as a distraction from the fact you have no answers to the multiple crises of modern zombie capitalism, and have given up even pretending to have any answers.
Edwards is not stupid, yet he continually – and deliberately in my opinion – continues to conflate "liberal" with the left. His out for this is to simply create a strawman – the "contemporary left" – on whose swinging corpse he can then hang various placards proclaiming it's guilt. His arguments may have held some water twenty years ago, describing what is best called Blairite/Clinton centrism which tarted itself up in the raiments of the left by hijacking it's primary political vehicles across the west. But like many academics in a ivory towers of what are fundamentally neoliberal in funding and outlook organisations his thinking has atrophied. That boat cast off with the GFC, with the collapse of centrism (as evidenced by the Pasokification of social democratic 'centrist" parties across Europe) indicating the left long ago parted ways with the sort of centrist liberal politics he accuses it of.
The truth of the matter is the right is formenting a distraction in the form of a culture war on the nebulous grounds of free speech and in order to get it it needs it's useful idiots in neoliberal academic organs to provide an intellectual framework.
The left can spend it's time much more profitably than debating these sterile, worn out arguments by seeking to own the future with practical solutions to todays and tomorrows issues.
[TheStandard: A moderator moved this comment to Open Mike as being off topic or irrelevant in the post it was made in. Be more careful in future.]
[I specifically said not to attack the author. Three day ban for wasting my moderator time and creating a hostile environment for the people who put up content. – weka]
You’re lucky I didn’t see the second comment, now in trash. Making a note in the backend for future reference. Count this as a second warning about ignoring moderation directions.
Sanctuary – I agree with your view entirely, the only view I've seen that states the right wing as responsible for our wokeness problem. It's just more division strategy from the neo liberal conservatives but it's not really working for them. I as a leftie don't have the slightest problem with it. Well said mate. I don't understand the moderation notes?
Did you read the post? There’s a note at the top saying debate the issues raised, don’t attack the author. It’s longstanding policy to not attack authors because getting posts up on TS is more important than commenters having wee anti author rants instead of engaging in debate. Sanctuary knows this. The blatant disrespect fir moderation is part of the ban.
had Sanctuary’s comment been made without the author attack it would still be under the original post and they wouldn’t have been banned.
I had to read the post before I could agree with it, yes? I note that a few other commenters have possibly attacked the author, although I wouldn't rate any of them (including Sanctuary) as attacks IMHO. This is not an attack on you and thanks for your input.
You said you didn’t understand the mod notes. I asked if you read the post because it clearly explains the boundaries at the top.
no one has to agree with posts. They do have to abide by moderation. I’m guessing you didn’t see Sanctuary’s second comment. They were basically trolling at that point.
I’ve got years of writing and moderation at TS as well as cross posting and encouraging new authors. I’ve been listening to writers say what’s hard about writing here. I have a pretty good idea of what is needed for robust debate and it isn’t long termers ignoring the rules of the site and doing whatever the hell they like.
calling an author a shill is an attack, as an example, and it’s a specious form of debate and it derails. Author attacks are designed to undermine the person, that’s bulkshit tactics.
One of the reasons I put the post up is because I want the left to take a long hard look at itself and go back to debating the issues. Apparently that’s too hard.
That kind of commenting also opens the way for other people to make defamatory comments which puts the site owners at risk.
What is Pasokification?
The decline of left and centre left parties in Europe, see:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasokification
@Sanctuary
"Edwards is not stupid, yet he continually – and deliberately in my opinion – continues to conflate "liberal" with the left"
This is THE major problem of the Left today..ie separating with extreme prejudice who and what are the Left in most people’s minds from who and what are the Centrist Liberals.
One of my sons is at Uni at the moment and even there they don’t make this critical distinction..except it seems when it suits the arguments of the status quo.
Sorry to see you got kicked off…seems a bit harsh.
Adrian, I feel many in the left drive this wedge themselves.
I always consider myself to be centralist economically, but definitely left socially. That position is based on my life experiences and observations. I have encountered many small business owners being the same.
Many times on TS (and in everyday life) i encounter many in the left that cannot see this is not a contradiction (necessarily) and just hurl personal abuse if one isn't 100% 'left', instead of accepting that a centralist-leftist has significant overlaps with the majority of the left.
I probably have not explained that well, but that's how I feel.
Still waiting for that link Peter ChCh.
What link? I explained very patiently and carefully. I cannot do more than that. if you lack the experience, knowledge or are just so plain pig headed to understand something which is very basic then I really cannot help you.
This was two days ago. FFS. MOVE ON. THIS IS HARRESSMENT.
MODERATORS PLEASE NOTE. ‘NZ Perverse economy. This poster Louis is WAY out of line.
It was yesterday. You were asked to provide a link to support your claim of "repeated lies"
You said it Peter ChCh “Clark repeatedly lied to the media before finally coming clean and apologising for his lies”
Put up a link
You dogged and abused me on Saturday, I assume that is what you are still dogging and abusing me about today?
You really need a life Louis
Not Saturday, it was yesterday.
No need to be obtuse Peter Chch. You cant back up your claim that “Clark repeatedly lied to the media before finally coming clean and apologising for his lies”
You have done what you accused Clark of doing, you lied.
Feeling vulnerable over your ‘Clark hit job’? The pushback is fair, imho.
"Unbelievable" indeed.
That is all factual (ok, 'under his bed' was his displayed mindset rather than fact).
I think you will find most Kiwis (left or right) have little but contempt for Clark.
And no, not feeling vulnerable in any shape or form whatsoever. Just tired of the type of endless crap I got from Louis on Saturday.
Already put up a link date stamped the 30th which was Sunday. You don't speak for most Kiwis PeterChch and will remind you that Clark won his seat convincingly last year so obviously its not as you described. Besides, you have been caught out telling porkies. Very hypocritical of you.
This is the start of it. It progressed to the stage where he admitted he lied. It was well reported at the time but this sets the scene.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/leaked-email-contradicts-health-ministers-claim-that-he-was-briefed-about-only-one-leaky-building-at-middlemore/QVFU6ELYYYX2HARGO3QW4SEE5M/
MODERATORS
Please note these continual personal attack from this idiot Louis. I put up with this idiot on Saturday with personal abuse. Still at it. Calling someone a lier with no grounds, on top of the endless shit I endured from this cretin on Saturday is not unacceptable!
Yesterday 30th, I asked you for a link to back up your claims, even Incognito said to you "You should still provide a link about all those lies by Clark to the media, thanks"
Take note of the date
https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-30-05-2021/#comment-1795498
Doesn't back you up
"Clark says he has already received an apology from acting board chairman Rabin Rabindran for not mentioning the extent of the problem – which supports Clark's version of what he was and wasn't told on March 13"
No link for that claim Louis.
I can see you intend this to be a repeat of your Saturday crap. I will not reply to you anymore.
'Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience'. (Mark Twain)
[watching this thread, hoping I don’t need to become involved, which was forlorn hope 🙁
You made the assertion, you need to provide a link or withdraw and apologise.
I’ve put you in Pre-Moderation for now in anticipation of your response – Incognito]
The quote is from your link that you posted and it doesn't back up your false claims. Why you persist in lying and digging an even greater hole for yourself PeterChCh, is anyone's guess.
See my Moderation note @ 1:09 pm.
…just a thought…from what you are saying….you are not Left socially…you are Liberal Socially…the Leftist position is based and revolves around Economic Theory.
+1 Sanctuary
+10 Louis
Mod note for you.
The report on Climate Change is due out today.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/2018797656/climate-change-commission-to-present-final-report
We may have to wait (up to) 2 weeks to find out whats in it it seems
Oh no! That’s how they bury sensitive reports; in two weeks, we’ll have forgotten about it
Labour have until the end of the year to accept the recommendations or present their own plan. Crunch time
That’s a very long to wait for release of the full report to the public!
The report needs to be table in Parliament within two weeks so will then be publicly available.
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End of year is what happens next.
"The independent advice was handed to the Minister today (Monday 31 May). The Commission will publish the advice on its website next Wednesday (9 June) once it has been tabled by the Minister."
https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/SC2105/S00074/climate-change-commissions-final-advice-delivered-to-government.htm
When hearing about plans to build a tunnel from Auckland city to North Shore I think about our earthquake potential in NZ. A recent study on earthquake preparedness there contains this:
Eruptions in the Auckland volcanic field happen in a new location each time – rather than from one of the 53 existing cones and lakes – and they could be anywhere on land or in the sea. https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/443704/study-assesses-evacuation-window-for-aucklanders-in-volcanic-eruption
And it doesn't mention the huge cost of such a tunnel if we take it on though we are in a fast-fading economy. When we run out of houses to sell, we will have to sell ourselves in new ways, just to survive. The cost of a tunnel may be amortised over many decades, but if our economy declines we will be left with an enforceable debt as the financial institutions don't go in for compassionate jubilees for debt.* No, nay, never, anyway probably not now in Our Brave New World.
* The tendency for debts to grow faster than the population's ability to pay has been a basic constant throughout all recorded history. … The concept of a debt jubilee is not new. It dates back to biblical times and the Book of Leviticus where the Hebrews would every 50 years free slaves, prisoners and forgive debts.16/04/2012
Debt Jubilee for New Zealand – The Great Reset | Scoop News
https://www.scoop.co.nz › Top Scoops
Fascinating – kea may be more intelligent than we are – by applying their brain to achieve rational results that benefit them. We seem to believe in SEP – someone will rescue us from the horns of our dilemmas! Ouch! Old news piece from last year, still worth reading.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/410887/study-on-kea-notes-unprecedented-smart-behaviour Mar.4/20
In a paper published today in Nature Communications, University of Auckland experts found the birds can judge statistical odds in a way only ever seen before in infants and great apes.
In a range of tests at the Willowbank Wildlife Reserve in Christchurch, kea worked out that choosing a particular coloured token always led to a food reward, and even managed to learn which of their rangers was most likely to pick the token they wanted.
Study co-author Alex Taylor, a psychologist who studies intelligence in animals and birds, said the behaviour they saw was unprecedented in birds.
But this is hard to beat – the Japanese crow and the traffic nut cracker and light service.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGPGknpq3e0
The mundane reality of one transperson's life.
https://twitter.com/postingdad/status/1399085081130532868
Nice one. We definitely need more normalising stories.
yet, the politics.
so how do we do this then? I’d be happy to talk about women’s sex based rights and not talk about trans issues, but it’s really hard to do. I had a fair crack with the census post I wrote. But when left wing men are now taking the position that women don’t get to define their own politics and thus their lives, how is that different than what he is talking about in that post?
I've not seen a convincing explanation yet about why rights would be described as 'sex-based' rather than 'gender-based'.
The debate isn’t sex based vs gender based rights. It’s existing sex based rights *and gender based rights vs removing sex based rights and replacing with only gender based rights.
Do you have a link about 'sex based' rights that is not just talking about gender-based ones? ie: it is about 'females' rather than 'women'. Doesn't sound like any UN Conventions I know of.
Not really my area at the international level, but I've seen GCFs talking about CEDAW as being sex based. A quick google found this,
https://www.ohchr.org/en/professionalinterest/pages/cedaw.aspx
I'm more familiar with the debate in the UK, where law gives rights to people who transition, and retains rights for women based on sex to the exclusion of males (including trans women) where necessary. Trans lobbyists like Mermaids have been trying to get this removed.
https://legalfeminist.org.uk/2021/03/13/sex-based-rights-a-remedy-to-sex-based-wrongs/
Important to also understand that the word gender is often used to mean sex, especially historically.
Another useful case to look at is in Canada where the Human Rights Tribunal ruled against a pre-op trans woman who was insisting that estheticians waxed their genitals.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/transgender-woman-human-rights-waxing-1.5330807
Almost none of the Canadian mainstream media would cover the case while it was ongoing, such has been the success of the 'no debate' lobby. It was covered by some conservative media eg The Post Millennial. This is part of why left wing GCFs get called right wing, but where these were the only outlets available (there are also right wing GC people). GCFs went to the tribunal hearings and live tweeted them, which is how GCFs knew what was going on when the rest of the left was clueless. What this has meant is that most of the left don't actually know what the issues are.
Despite having 'Women' in its name.
yes. Most people believe that woman is a word used to mean biologically female.
Most women were happy to share that word with trans women up to the point that women's rights were put at risk.
eg you know exactly what I mean by the use of 'women's' in that second sentence.
That UK link you provided is relying on conflating 'male' with 'men' and 'female' with 'women' throughout.
Perhaps it is men that CGFs could usefully exclude without confusing things – otherwise I can easily see transmen being entitled to be in women's spaces (not that I think they would seek to be). Unless it is penises that are somehow the problem, which seems overblown?
"That UK link you provided is relying on conflating 'male' with 'men' and 'female' with 'women' throughout."
That seems to be what the Canadian case was mostly about. Though the court seemed to agree that not waxing a 'womans' penis wasn't discriminatory, (though the plantifs litigation may have been).
I don't think so, it's not conflation, it's normal use of language. Most English speakers understand that men = male and vice versa. And it's clear in the context. I'd certainly expect Labour MPs to read and and be able to understand it.
It's males that are generally the problem. Sometimes they get called male, sometimes they get called men. This is one very good reason to talk about women and trans women, and men and trans men, rather than conflating the two. It's not GCFs that are confusing things.
do you honestly believe that women who have been raped should have to share space with people of whatever gender identity who are male bodied with genitals intact? Share a bedroom in a refuge with a man identifying as a woman? Share a changing room?
There's the Staniland Question:
Interesting use of the word 'though' there Nic.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/2018797194/peter-singer-freedom-of-expression-and-cancel-culture
Re above link and Singer. Consequentialist….
As a consequentialist and a utilitarian, Singer believes there are no such hard and fast rules.
"A consequentialist believes that whether an act is right or wrong depends on its consequences. So it's not just a matter of saying 'Here's a moral rule, you must never break it no matter what'. For a consequentialist, this 'no matter what' doesn't apply because there may be some circumstances in which a rule you never normally should break you should break because there'd be very bad consequences if you adhere to the rule.
The utilitarian part of it is 'what do you mean by good consequences?' and utilitarians say 'What I mean is something that reduces the amount of suffering in the world or increases the amount of happiness in the world'. We're basically talking about the well-being of people and non-human animals.
"We should be able to say 'yes it may cause some harm to some people but it's important for us to have free debate to find out what are the right views and what are the best policies for dealing with these issues?'"
Freedom of speech should not extend to protecting people's right to hate speech or any malicious incitement of violence, he says….
7th August 2021 7-9.45pm The Trusts Arena, Henderson – Singer will be speaking. $70 up. Funds to alleviate global poverty.
https://events.humanitix.co.nz/peter-singer-auckland
More info: https://thinkinc.org.au/events/singer/?
Funny how it's always the same social groups his 'debate' causes harm to. And how his need to hear his own voice reliably outweighs that.
I don’t follow PS, or anybody, for that matter, but he does seem to appear in NZ media more than occasionally …
What groups (plural) are singled out and ‘victimised’ by his debates and do you think this is deliberate and intentional? Seems a bit of a contradiction to the PR around his visit and journal!?
Have a quick look at his public work on disability and infanticide
In his book Practical Ethics, Singer argues the case for selective infanticide. He deems it unfair that "At present parents can choose to keep or destroy their disabled offspring only if the disability happens to be detected during pregnancy.14/08/2012
The case against Peter Singer – ABC News
It would prevent this:
A woman in her 20s living with quadriplegia and unable to talk suffered "extensive blister burns" from urine after a nurse neglected her care for 12 hours.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/woman-in-20s-with-quadriplegia-suffers-blister-burns-due-to-lack-of-care/WAKF4IF74DO4GMP6BBBSETZEEY/
And that money and 24/7 care for someone who has no hope of a life could go to other needy disabled people like these:
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/woman-paralysed-in-horse-fall-takes-fight-over-closure-auckland-rehab-centre-parliament
It comes after hundreds of disabled people protested outside of Epsom’s Laura Fergusson Trust rehabilitation centre over the weekend.
The centre provided rehabilitation for young people with disabilities to escape the confines of their homes in the company of others their age.
But it closed last year, claiming it was short of funds, leaving those depending on its services devastated.
However, Associate Minister of Health Ayesha Verrall told the House that financial support was offered to Laura Fergusson Trust.
“No discussion was able to be entered into, because the trust informed the Ministry of Health that its decision was final,” Verrall said.
It seems impossible for people to make the reasoned moral judgments that must be made if we are to have any moral judgments at all. It is likely that the PTB will harden, throw their hands up in the air and say the matter is beyond them, and those who are unhappy can get some funds and carry out their own nursing and caring. But then, that is already happening and it will become more burdensome as help is lessened and people are unwilling to face their situation.
I'm always leery of comments about someone else having "no hope of a life" especially when based on perceived quality of life (rather than whether the body is in a condition consistent with the continuation of life). It tends to be a rather subjective assessment.
Now, personally, most babies only a few months old are largely uninteresting and unimpressive, especially prems. But there are two main differences between a born baby and pregnancy: they don't rely on someone else's body to live (by and large), and the birth delineation is a convenient ledge on an otherwise slippery slope.
The other less logical difference is "what sort of person makes a clinical decision to actively kill a baby that would otherwise live with only normal feeding and suchlike? I mean, scalpel? Drug injection? Seriously, wtf?"
I get palliative care for a baby that just has too much going on to survive, but Singer's idea seems to be actively deciding for another person that their quality of life is so unbearable they should die. The bit that the euthenasia act doesn't allow ("be competent to make an informed decision about assisted dying.").
Ah. So. The Gospel according to Greywarshark seems to state that killing a disabled baby is the bestest way of preventing abuse and neglect of that baby by a caregiver in the future.
AND, the $$$ that were being paid for that shitty care would have been better spent on those disabled folk with at least some hope of rehabilitation. Like the young woman tragically made a quadriplegic after a horse riding accident.
Here endeth the moral lessons from Greywarshark for today.
(Oh, a quadriplegic sitting in his chair to my right has a few choice words on this…but good manners prevent me passing them on.)
It's also laughable (bleakly) that 'freed up' funding would go to other disabled people.
Is that you Michael Laws?
Spouting your eugenicist shit from behind a coward's pseudonym?
Snort, that's funny.
Just a gentle reminder that pseudonyms are an important part of the culture here and for good reasons.
Happy to take a gentle knuckle- rapping weka.
I have no issue at all with those who comment anonymously who are respectful and engage in good faith.
Although occasionally I do wonder exactly what reputation or position some other anonymous commentators are trying to protect.
Someone who claims the moral, reasoned high ground in advocating for the killing of disabled babies who have "no life" (and adds in an extra societal benefit in that the saved dollars can go towards supporting the clearly more worthy injured) must surely have spine enough to put their actual name and face to their views.
Nine years ago this writer (i.e., moi) engaged in an epistolary exchange with Laws. His views were exactly as you describe: eugenicist….
https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-22022012/#comment-439366
Those straight utilitarians are just a pain in the ass. They have so much in common with the more scientifically bogus parts of New Public Management theory in terms of inputs and outputs being applied to social outcomes.
Funny you should say that: I had another convo here today about ‘business cases’ in the context of bikes & babies.
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How to turn attention away to a non-entity that is infinitesimally irrelevant (i.e. toi)!! Why don’t you start your own YT channel or a blog?
RNZ just announced Nick Smith is retiring June 10th.
Who’s next on the list, Max?
Umm, Max?
Smith is going now that we have found out about something he regrets and apologised for. Integrity much?
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/443742/national-mp-nick-smith-to-retire-from-parliament
It was only a matter of time until he blew a gasket.
You know Max, don’t you? He doesn’t register in the polls yet but his daddy still does. National can do with an aspiring DJ because JC makes awful scratchy noises, like an old broken LP on a wonky turntable.
Ahh, that was the second guess but I was stuck with Bradford.
Oh no, that Max is older even than unlicensed Tim!
I don't think National has any other qualified engineers on their team.
He did plenty of good stuff for Conservation.
He did plenty of good stuff for Conservation.
????!!?!?!?!?
The people who care about water pollution don't think so.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/assets/news_crops/41536/eight_col_20170904_083133.jpg?1504474292
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/horse-manure-sculpture-of-environment-minister-nick-smith-moves-to-nelson/72CA7IK4SCNOU34ECGEZLRNY5Q/
Thanks for that Morrissey – very good likeness of Nick Smith from the front anyway.
Harete Hipango, according to the Herald. Talk about turning good news into bad news.
Ticks a lot of boxes as a potential future deputy to Nat leader Luxon.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harete_Hipango
Not talented enough to challenge for the role herself, you mean?
Not our Harete.
Well he certainly wont be missed. In fact will Parliament even notice when he's gone?
Yes!! I clapped. Cinny would have been pleased.
I resisted the term Dr Custard…
Dr Custard doesn’t cut the mustard.
Odd. A Radionz interview between Jesse Mulligan and Fed Farmers David Clark cannot be accessed as audio on Live Canterbury Flooding owing to 'copyright restrictions'.
A Radionz piece can't be repeated on another RNZ piece for copyright restrictions to whom? Is Radionz fragmenting and selling off pieces of itself to the National Radio listeners disadvantage? Is it dividing into units with each one making sufficient money to meet a target?
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/443699/live-canterbury-flooding-updates-bridges-collapse-hundreds-of-homes-evacuated
https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/afternoons/audio/2018797701/update-on-flooding-in-mid-cantebury
The National Party placemen on the RNZ board are intent on ruining the public broadcaster. They almost managed to abolish Concert FM last year.
Unfortunately, as he showed during that debacle, the present minister does not appear to have any grasp on his job.
"The National Party placemen on the RNZ board".
That is a fascinating theory but what do you base it on? There are 8 members on the Board. Only 2 of them were appointed by the then National Government. They were in December 2015 and September 2017.
The other 6 were all appointed after that date. In other words 6 of the 8, including the Chairman, were appointed by a Labour led Government. You are pretty desperate if you really think that 2 people can order the Board around aren't you?
Now what do you base your claim on?
Usually means the audio contains copyrighted music.
Lose Yourself?
Pretty often
Don’t worry, be happy.
Even happier Nick Smith has resigned citing employment issues being leaked to the Media tomorrow.
Why on Earth does that make you happy? Why not smoke a joint?
Leaked?
I suppose that a leak was inevitable. With the matter, whatever it is, being passed on tt at least Hipkins and Mallard under the "No surprises" policy it would only be a matter of when, not if, it was leaked I would surmise.
It is of course time that Smith retired. He has been in the House since 1990 and that is certainly long enough for anyone. It is just a pity that Mallard doesn't go out the door with him. He has been there since 1984 after all. He really ought to be cast out into the outer darkness shouldn't he? Surely there is some senior figure in the Labour Party who can take heed of Eliot's words and ask "Who will rid me of this turbulent prat"
Then Trevor and Nick could be put out to pasture together. Let them spend their remaining time in the sunshine, even if they are really old bulls suitable only for the knacker's yard.
alwyn, why are you trying to blame Hipkins and Mallard? How does it have anything to do with them? In 3 and half years in government Labour haven't leaked a thing about National, so how do you know it wasn't someone within the National party? after all, doesn't National have form in that regard?
" In 3 and half years in government Labour haven't leaked a thing about National".
Ah what blissful belief in the purity of your chosen party. You don't really believe that do you? I mean seriously think that the Labour MPs are truly that saintly. The only way I would think your statement could be true would be if you extend to the whole group of MPs Helen Clark's immortal claim. " "It is a matter of judgment for the Prime Minister how I use information from official reports; by definition I cannot leak.".
Alwyn, can you move this beyond what you believe? I agree it seems unlikely that, since winning the 2017 general election, Labour hasn't leaked anything about National, but (in the absence of evidence), it could be true – no?
Opposition National party people are sooo leaky; their 'leak prowess' is now the stuff of legend – yes Merv, I'm looking at you. What’s a ‘Labour leaker’ to do?
But it was, and probably still is, an article of faith for most of the contributors to this blog that John Key was an inveterate liar.
Are you now suggesting that John Key doesn't lie, or at least sometimes doesn't lie? BLIP will not be pleased. How can we tell the difference?
Alwyn, not sure how you got:
from Sir (Honest) John Key's 2020 imperative "If you can't quit leaking, quit the [National] party".
Reckon it would be difficult to lie about everything; even inveterate liars can sometimes tell the truth – maybe this was such an occasion.
Btw, while you may consider inveterate' to be an appropriate descriptor of this particular 'Key habit', I would prefer 'shameless' – works for
methee.But I've gone off topic:
There must be at least one documented example – how difficult can it be?
Its not about Helen Clark though. Its been Jacinda's policy since coming into government that whatever involves the National party it's their business and despite media efforts to draw commentary from the PM Et al in her government they dont leak and neither do they put the boot in. Just because National are inclined to do it doesn't mean every other party does. The Greens don't do it either.
As usual, you’re all over the place, diverting, dodging, denying, but never answering the question with a straight answer. You, Sir, are not debating here, you are trolling again.