Paranoia, Bullshit and Ordinary Lives.

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The UK government just couldn’t help itself, could it? Faced with the possibility of scoring some points against Russia, well….grab that there opportunity with both hands and to hell with everything else, right?

I said a while back, and I’ll reiterate. The likely courier of the “Salisbury toxin” is Julia Skripal. Everything about her movements fit. And of course, that’s just speculation on my part. As to why she was carrying a toxin, or who she was carrying it for, or who might have been the intended target? I’ll pass.

Now, to cut the UK government some slack, she was comatose when they picked her up from a park bench, and so it might have seemed reasonable, to them anyway, to immediately jump to conclusions about some dastardly Russian government plot to knock off an ex-British spy they’d previously released from jail as part of some spy swap.

Having done that, and having unleashed a pile of shit off the back of their conviction, they effectively dug a hole for themselves.

I’m not going to run through how the UK government and mainstream media heaped speculation on top of baseless assertion on top of speculation as though that might finally amount to proof of some dastardly Russian stuff. If you’re happy to buy into the UK government’s line and run with it, then fine. I don’t care.

What I care about is if, as seems to be the case, two ordinary people have been thrown under some political juggernaut by a UK government trying to dig itself out of a hole it’s dug for itself. After six months or so, and with nothing to show for all the investigating we were told they were engaged in, they had to come up with something that might draw a line under things. The naming of the two Russians,  Alexander Petrov and Ruslan Boshirov was meant to be that line. Of course, being GRU officers, they’d never be heard from again – they’d simply be spirited away into the vast “nowhereness” of Russia as it were.

Except it seems that Alexander Petrov and Ruslan Boshirov are real people. And sure, The Guardian is waving it’s arms (no doubt other media is too) that when they were interviewed by RT, the two men who look like the two men in CCTV stills released by UK authorities, didn’t produce the false passports that would verify they really are who they say they are, although in Teresa May’s world, everyone knows they’re not who they say they are, and that their passports would prove that point beyond all doubt. Or something.

Here’s a link to the RT interview (video). And here’s a link to the full transcript of the RT interview.

Watch and/or read and come to your own conclusions.

And no – before the usual pom pom brigade flounce in with their usual tired routine, I’m not interested in defending some notion of the Russian government as a great and wonderful institution or set of institutions. In fact, I’ve as much interest in doing that as I have of defending the UK (or US, NZ or wherever else) governments as great and wonderful institutions – ie, none. Two ordinary citizens have had their lives fucked over by the latest in a long line of shenanigans between  despicable and paranoid state actors. I care for none of them.

And whereas I have precisely zero power to hold the Russian Federation and its bullshit to account, I can at least kick back against some of the bullshit we’re subjected to via media by dint of the New Zealand government’s cultural and historical  ties to other western governments. Neither you nor I can directly influence the policies of western governments beyond New Zealand’s shores. But we could stop mindlessly buying into their nonsense, and make it that bit more difficult for them to peddle bullshit.

We deserve better of ourselves on that front.

And so do Alexander Petrov, Ruslan Boshirov and the millions of anonymous and ordinary people who,  just like us, are impacted when governments and media are given a free uncritical pass to say as they will and to do as they like.

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  1. The Al1en 1
    14 September 2018 at 11:57 am

    Another Russian apologist topic 🙄

    Change the record, Irish, Ffs.

    • marty mars 1.1
      14 September 2018 at 12:01 pm

      Ha – have you moved yet?

    • RedLogix 1.2
      14 September 2018 at 12:10 pm

      Apologising exactly for what? Bill explicitly isn’t defending the RU; he made that very clear.

      Nah … it’s crazy old Cold War tropes that he’s challenging.

      • The Al1en 1.2.1
        14 September 2018 at 12:12 pm

        Nope, by design, Bill’s a Ruskie stooge. Check his post history.

        • RedLogix 1.2.1.1
          14 September 2018 at 12:26 pm

          And unlike most people here I’ve lived and worked for a period in Russia. Yes it’s very different as indeed all countries are; but it cured me of leaping reflexively to the idea that Russians are all demons.

          Russia is a tough country. It has a tough history and Putin is by modern liberal standards no angel. Neither Bill nor I would quibble that. At worst it’s political system is far too entangled with a thuggish kleptocracy; yet at his best Putin remains a remarkably accessible leader, given to long intelligent interviews and speeches and still hugely popular. Under his leadership the nation has clawed back from the brink of economic implosion in the 90’s.

          While at the same time any honest appraisal of the Western nations reveals our own list of strengths and weaknesses. While we do some things well, there is also a terrible legacy of military, political and economic disasters to consider. And in terms of leadership, Putin is makes the current crop of Western leaders look like the fools they are.

          The Cold War is over.

        • Bill 1.2.1.2
          14 September 2018 at 1:11 pm

          Nope, by design, Bill’s a Ruskie stooge. Check his post history.

          -sigh –

          Go ahead. Knock your self out finding so much as a comment, never mind a post, where I defend or promote the Russian Federation at an ideological level.

        • Morrissey 1.2.1.3
          14 September 2018 at 6:17 pm

          Idiot. You haven’t read Bill’s history any more than you’ve read any Russian or indeed any history at all.

          Get lost.

    • adam 1.3
      14 September 2018 at 6:13 pm

      It’s the lies that hurt…

  2. marty mars 2
    14 September 2018 at 12:00 pm

    Two ordinary people – really?

    Most that I’ve discussed this with think it’s pretty standard stuff. Spy stuff. The players all have a narrative and some believe whatever? But two innocent tourists? – I doubt many believe that.

    • Siobhan 2.1
      14 September 2018 at 12:42 pm

      (This is a repeat of my comment on open mike..which I should have put here..sorry)

      To start with it all sounded bizarrely ridiculous, till I actually read their story.
      From what I can see, and reading between the lines, they run a dodgy Health and Fitness Company and were in the UK to investigate some new sources of dodgy supplements/steroids..hence their obvious ‘fitness’. A situation complicated by their cosy sleeping arrangements…also this could explain the two visits to Salisbury, maybe a contact didn’t show or whatever happens in the murky world of ‘supplement’ buying and selling

      People have dodgy passports, lie and tell crappy fake tourist stories for all sorts of reasons other than being Russian spies..at this point I couldn’t in all conscience convict them in a court of law if I was on the jury, let alone the court of public opinion.

      • marty mars 2.1.1
        14 September 2018 at 12:53 pm

        I spose. They went past his house though didn’t they?

        • Francesca 2.1.1.1
          14 September 2018 at 1:12 pm

          Some 500 or more metres away that we know of
          Seems no neighbours in the cul de sac saw any shenanigans at the very exposed door of the Skripals in
          broad daylight,on a Sunday so most people at home

          • Francesca 2.1.1.1.1
            14 September 2018 at 1:23 pm

            Whatever dodgy stuff these guys were up to they are way too unpolished to be GRU agents entrusted with a hugely dangerous job with such high political stakes
            And we certainly wouldn’t be seeing them on TV

            • KJT 2.1.1.1.1.1
              14 September 2018 at 4:59 pm

              Secret agencies have a long history of incompetence.

              Secrecy allows a massive amount of unscrutinized ineptitude.

              As one whistle blower said, “the main reason why secrecy is invoked is too cover up Government, or secret service, incompetence or malfeasance” .

              We had our own example, with the bunch of French clowns, who sunk the rainbow Warrior.

              • Francesca …
                14 September 2018 at 6:33 pm

                By that standard the agents would never have been paraded on TV
                They would have disappeared

                • McFlock …
                  14 September 2018 at 6:52 pm

                  Only when their liability outweighs their usefulness.

                  No trial = no proof = no liability. Hell, they might even get a chat show out of it, or a sinecure as an MP. If they’re the guys in the picture and the guys in the picture did it.

        • Bill 2.1.1.2
          14 September 2018 at 1:15 pm

          If you’d watched the video, or read the transcript, you’d know the answer to that question.

          The fact you’re asking, suggests you just saw a headline and stuck your hand down your pants all excited like.

          • marty mars 2.1.1.2.1
            14 September 2018 at 1:30 pm

            Thanks bill – nice to know what’s on your mind.

            Please note the question mark I used and also that asking a question without knowing the answer is for idiots. The fact you didn’t notice that tells me youre potentially trying to pick a fight so I’ll not comment again.

      • Bill 2.1.2
        14 September 2018 at 1:27 pm

        I don’t see why it has to be “a dodgy” supplements business (though it could be).

        And Petrov (on the left in the interview), although incredibly defensive at even oblique suggestions he may be gay (he complains that photos of the room they were meant have stayed in shows only a single bed and goes on to “defend” booking twin shares), strikes me as a “stress monkey” way out of his comfort zone. Understandably so, but hardly GRU material.

        And Salisbury is an entirely legitimate (and probably very popular) destination for a day trip from London.

        Dodgy passports? Hang on. The names are the same as those released by UK authorities, right? (Christ! I had to check 🙂 ) So, no reason to introduce or explain away anything about dodgy passports. According to UK authorities (and the two men themselves) they’ve been on numerous trips to Europe for business and pleasure.

        • Dukeofurl 2.1.2.1
          14 September 2018 at 1:51 pm

          Notice how the journalist in the link you have is a Moscow correspondent for Guardian but doesnt do any independent reporting from Russia. None at all Its all just a rewrite of the Conservatives/Met/SIS press releases from London.

          The methods real assasins operate with accomplices safe houses etc was shown when Mossad killed the wrong person in Lillehammer in 1973. That was supposed to definite proof of the string of Israeli killings in Europe. Political response is different when Israel is involved.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lillehammer_affair

          • McFlock 2.1.2.1.1
            14 September 2018 at 2:02 pm

            No chance things have changed a bit in 45 years, especially given that it was such a clusterfuck and exposed so many unrelated resources?

          • Bill 2.1.2.1.2
            14 September 2018 at 3:19 pm

            Actually I had missed that it was Luke “swivel eyed” Harding 🙂

            He’s got a book out, right? And a very embarrassing interview (for him) with Aaron Mate somewhere on the RealNews. It’s an aside, but through the link 🙂

        • Gabby 2.1.2.2
          14 September 2018 at 5:00 pm

          I wonder what business they’re in billy. Import-export? Pharmaceuticals? Security?

        • KJT 2.1.2.3
          14 September 2018 at 5:01 pm

          As being queer is still a legal issue in Russia, that could be a valid reason for the “dodginess”?

          • Bill 2.1.2.3.1
            14 September 2018 at 5:45 pm

            As I commented on Open Mike this morning before this post went up – I’ve been around somewhat overwhelmed and stressed people who’ve had to go before the media -who’s general pattern of engagement and mannerisms would fit that guy like a glove. He’s genuine.

    • Booker 2.2
      14 September 2018 at 1:10 pm

      Yeah those guys in the interview are not telling the truth, that should be obvious to anyone. Look, when the second couple were poisoned, I started thinking it must be a lone wolf who had access gone crazy letting this stuff out – probably from nearby Porton Down. Now, I have no idea. I don’t believe we’re getting all the facts out of the UK government, and even sites like the Guardian highlight that the police haven’t released any more video (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/sep/13/spy-poisoning-suspects-interview-an-insult-to-publics-intelligence) – even though the UK littered in CCTV. But the release of this interview now makes Russia look more suspicious – keeping quiet would have worked better than put out a weird interview with the suspects like this.

      • Dukeofurl 2.2.1
        14 September 2018 at 1:38 pm

        First thing to remember is that you wont get ALL the information from the UK media.
        The main media outlets still operate under the D notice system ( now called a new name) which acts as censorship on what the Government doesnt want released.

        But that doesnt stop the official government line being the only story being told. people taking an interest will have noticed the complete lack of independent reporting of the main details by the major media other than official sources.

  3. McFlock 3
    14 September 2018 at 1:31 pm

    Personally, I don’t know if these two guys are involved. “Visiting the cathedral” is pretty thin, but whatevs. I’m pretty sure they will never be in a situation where their guilt or innocence is tested.

    As for your Yulia reckons, I think you’re barking up the wrong tree entirely. But then we take very different approaches to committing illegal acts, it seems.

  4. SPC 4
    14 September 2018 at 2:11 pm

    As to stuff in the media that is dubious – this “The likely courier of the “Salisbury toxin” is Julia Skripal. Everything about her movements fit. And of course, that’s just speculation on my part. As to why she was carrying a toxin, or who she was carrying it for, or who might have been the intended target? I’ll pass.” is right up there.

  5. mauī 5
    14 September 2018 at 2:12 pm

    RT kind of dropped the two guys in it by releasing a short snippet video of the interview first, complete with bad voiceovers. That made them look dodgy as f…. But the full half hour long interview is more convincing. The guys still look a bit dodgy. Skirting around their occupations and discussing why they get a single or a double room when they stay at places lol. But if they’re lying that was an impressive performance to hold up under 30 mins of Kim Hill like interrogation and on camera.

  6. veutoviper 6
    14 September 2018 at 2:28 pm

    OK, so they were in the UK to visit Stonehenge according to some here – in early March. (Although it now seems that they were interested in the Cathedral and its spire and clock – perhaps for the reasons below.)

    But lets look at visiting Stonehenge. March is not a time of year with any real significance to Stonehenge in terms of things like the Winter and Summer solstices etc.

    March is also not a great time to visit weather wise, and the number of tours and buses from Salisbury to Stonehenge (9 miles) are also limited.

    Just for the hell of it, I googled information re getting to Salisbury and Stonehenge from London. (I went to Stonehenge several times during my seven years living in London but that was in the swinging ’70s!)

    From what I have seen it is actually quicker and cheaper to take a bus tour from London to and from Stonehenge than try to do it independently. This includes day trips and half day trips although the latter are limited in March to afternoon half day tours only.
    https://www.londontoolkit.com/tours/premium_stonehenge.htm

    If you want to do the trip independently, then Stonehenge Tour buses run from the Salisbury Railway Station to and from Stonehenge – AND there are no public bus services to get the nine miles from Salisbury to Stonehenge and back.
    https://www.londontoolkit.com/whattodo/stonehenge.htm

    And here is another interesting point. Entry to Stonehenge is not free (it was in my day!) – AND you must book in advance. From the link below:

    Note: you cannot reserve tickets on-line on the day of your visit, you must reserve before midnight latest on the day before. Only a very small number of tickets are held back each day for walk-up visitors.

    https://www.londontoolkit.com/whattodo/stonehenge_times_prices.htm

    So for two guys who obviously have travelled outside Russia before – eg to Switzerland a number of times and to other European destinations – and had only two days in the UK on this trip with only limited time to visit Salisbury (and Stonehenge?) from London, they don’t seem to have done much planning for their trip to Stonehenge.

    Surely on their first day in Salisbury, if they really had wanted to visit Stonehenge and had not made advance arrangements, they would have found out about the buses, the need to book in advance etc and made such arrangements before they went to Salisbury in teh first place and/or back to Salisbury the very next day.

    OK – so that put housework off for another hour … What’s my next diversion?

    • Bill 6.1
      14 September 2018 at 3:04 pm

      Petrov – We travelled there to see Stonehenge, Old Sarum, and the Cathedral of the Blessed Virgin Mary. But it didn’t work out because of the slush.

      Bus tours take in all three of those locations in one fell swoop and can be booked on-line for £24 (valid for 48 hours and with a very limited number of tickets being with-held for casual visitors).

      But like you say, maybe not so popular to stand around on exposed hillsides in early March, so quite reasonable to “take a punt” on grabbing a ticket on the day – or cop out and just do the Cathedral.

      And from the interview, it would seem that Petrov and Boshirov took photographs. Who knows? They may be in them, and they might pass them to some Russian media outlet.

      I guess they could be in CCTV footage from around the Cathedral – if such footage still exists after this amount of time has passed.

      And I see that some outlets (eg – The Independent) are putting a lot of store in the fact they entered Britain on valid business visas but didn’t conduct business 🙂

    • Bill 6.2
      14 September 2018 at 4:53 pm

      Not sure how to cut and paste individual tweets, so here’s the text with a link to the thread.

      Old Sarum
      Mar 3
      ‏Old Sarum remains closed today, Saturday 3 March due to continuing adverse conditions. Let’s hope for a big thaw this weekend.

      Stonehenge
      ‏Mar 3
      WEATHER UPDATE: Stonehenge will remain closed today. We’re very sorry for any inconvenience. Any queries please contact customer services.

      Old Sarum
      Mar 4
      Old Sarum is still closed today as we clear the last drifts from the Inner Bailey.

      https://twitter.com/EHOldSarum

      So they may well have booked on line, traveled up and everything was canceled. Tickets are valid for 48 hours anyway, so they’ve gone back the next day and some of what they wanted to see was still closed, so (as before) settled for just doing the Cathedral.

      Nothing odd or preposterous in any of it. And if you want an idea of what the weather was like over those few days, then click following link for photos.

      http://www.salisburyjournal.co.uk/news/16057914.LIVE_Snow_in_Salisbury/

  7. Stuart Munro 7
    14 September 2018 at 2:39 pm

    It’s always the POMs, according to RT.

    Even the two men, asked who they blamed, blamed the POMs, not the poisoners. Poison is normal to them. So no reason they couldn’t poison the Skripals and then visit the cathedral. What else is there to do in Salisbury on a wet day after all.

    Travel to another country to spend thirty minutes looking at a cathedral?

    They’re paraphrasing Michael Palin’s euphemism “To my surprise we discovered a mutual interest in church architecture” without evidently recognizing it.

    • Bill 7.1
      14 September 2018 at 3:12 pm

      Sorry, what?

      The PM of the UK states quite categorically that two guys they have on CCTV are Russian agents and that they would want to charge them if Russia and the UK had an extradition arrangement.

      And it’s somehow crap that the two guys blame the UK government for fucking up their lives!?

      You think they should blame ….who? Who else pointed the finger at them? Who else has made it impossible for them to travel in Europe?

      • Stuart Munro 7.1.1
        14 September 2018 at 4:35 pm

        Ok – So at great trouble and expense, the UK have finally tracked down a couple of the many Russian murderers who have operated on their soil over the last few decades.

        Unapologetic is an understatement – no evidence of contrition or even consciousness of the fact that a crime has been committed, ordinary people slain (yet again) in the service of a murderous Russian exceptionalism.

        This a matter for the UK and Russia to work out Bill – you’ve no evidence beyond the usual bad faith reportage of RT and the gibbering inanity of the likes of Moonofalhambra or the cat guy.

        Are there no progressive issues requiring our attention in this hemisphere, after nine years of epic misgovernance? Or is Putin’s position so tender that he requires your support every day of the year?

        In the absence of further evidence the matter is best left to those involved.

        • Morrissey 7.1.1.1
          14 September 2018 at 4:39 pm

          Bill’s not supporting Putin. He’s questioning the motivation, and the reliability, of that rogue state Great Britain.

          • Stuart Munro 7.1.1.1.1
            14 September 2018 at 4:42 pm

            Yes he is – without a shred of evidence.

            But he appears to accept the accused poisoner’s story at face value – even promotes it – also without a shred of evidence.

            That’s pretty damned partisan.

            As for “Great Rogue State” many can lay that accusation against England. But not the genocidal murderers of the Chechens, not the invaders of Georgia and of the Ukraine. Those bastards, the Russians – are even worse.

            • Morrissey 7.1.1.1.1.1
              14 September 2018 at 4:59 pm

              Those bastards, the Russians – are even worse.

              No they’re not. Russia’s crimes—in particular this century— are minimal compared to Britain’s. Of course, if you want to ignore Britain’s key involvement in the destruction of Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen, and its funding and diplomatic support of ISIS, Saudi Arabia and Israel, then there is no problem.

              The real world, though, is more problematic.

            • Bill 7.1.1.1.1.2
              14 September 2018 at 5:31 pm

              But he appears to accept the accused poisoner’s story at face value – even promotes it – also without a shred of evidence.

              Do you really want to run through the interview and stack it against known facts? Maybe discern if there are any actual holes in their account?

              No. Of course not. As far as ideologues are concerned, I don’t go for what’s in the book, and that makes me and my opinions and thoughts, bad. End.

              I mean ffs, all this shite that would have people prove they didn’t do something, when they give a perfectly reasonable account of what they did do. What’s that about? How’s that work?

              It’s down to accusers to prove guilt, or at least establish a reasonable case for guilt. Saying that two guys, who went to a tourist destination, and who’s story pans out against known facts nevertheless did some weird door handle poisoning thing, needs to be backed up by much more than bald assertion and paranoid innuendo based on the sole fact that they’re Russian.

              • Stuart Munro …
                14 September 2018 at 6:07 pm

                “needs to be backed up by much more than bald assertion and paranoid innuendo based on the sole fact that they’re Russian.”

                Quite.

                And it is backed up, by an intensive investigation carried out by hundreds of trained investigators, chemists, and anti-terrorist specialists.

                But this is not enough for you. You are determined to insist, before that evidence is presented to a court, that these suspects are innocent tourists.

                And then you wonder why people speculate at what might impel you to such anomalous behavior.

                Are you having Putin’s baby, Bill? Because you have never produced any substantive cause for your position beyond a sustained sneer at anyone daring to question your essentially Lavrovian position.

                • Bill …
                  14 September 2018 at 6:55 pm

                  Fucking wow!

                  …it is backed up, by an intensive investigation carried out by,,,

                  No. An investigation isn’t “back up”. Only evidence that supports conclusions produced or reached by an investigation constitutes “back up”.

                  And on that front, after six months and whatever amount of money and number of personnel thrown at the thing, there are some CCTV stills and two names of two Russian men who were in Salisbury on March the 3rd and 4th.

                  From that, UK authorities have concluded that thems must be the guys. But as far as evidence goes…..nothing. Assertion, speculation and innuendo don’t count as evidence, not even if you stack one on the other all the way to the sky.

                  • Stuart Munro …
                    14 September 2018 at 8:52 pm

                    Riiight – the Skripals were poisoned immaculately no doubt – cos no Russian agent would ever contemplate doing such a thing, even under a government led by a cold war espiocrat.

                    There’s plenty of evidence. If your cathedral loving pair wish to maintain their innocence they need only correspond or cooperate with UK authorities, or contest the matter through the English courts – an affordance English spies poisoning Russians on their soil would not be offered.

                    • Bill …
                      14 September 2018 at 9:42 pm

                      This is just stupid talk Stuart. Whatever happened doesn’t come down to a) Russian agents did it or, b) there is no possible explanation.

                      And again, you say there is “plenty of evidence”, but there’s not. There’s plenty of noise by way of speculation and assertion. But there’s no evidence.

                    • Stuart Munro …
                      15 September 2018 at 9:15 am

                      @Bill

                      “Whatever happened doesn’t come down to a) Russian agents did it or, b) there is no possible explanation.”

                      Yes, you’ve been at pains to walk us through what you apparently conceive to be every other “possible explanation”, none of which are particularly persuasive.

                      Nor do you have anything to offer beyond a rather refined form of speculation – anything , anything whatsoever, that exonerates Russia.

                      Frankly you would do better to await the release of more evidence. This insistence that Russia cannot possibly be involved when they have so very much form for doing exactly the same kind of thing, they have the only plausible motive, and they are the only significant source of the material carries willful suspension of disbelief a little too far.

                    • Bill …
                      15 September 2018 at 11:04 am

                      An ex-British spy moving in circles that likely include (how to say?) a fair number of unsavory and/or dodgy and/or powerful individuals and their associates would, I think, offer up a veritable cornucopia of potential suspects and motives.

                      And that’s just going on the basis that Skripal was the intended target, which as you’ll be aware, isn’t something I’m taking as a read.

                      And these two guys seem to have done what many people from around Europe do. They flew to a foreign city for a few days intending to take in some local sights. They’re story stacks up – is internally coherent. So, as I said elsewhere, until such times as evidence is produced to say otherwise, these guys were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. (Burn the witch!) 🙂

                    • Stuart Munro …
                      15 September 2018 at 11:27 am

                      “They flew to a foreign city for a few days intending to take in some local sights.”

                      How very informed you claim to be with regard to their intentions, one of the hardest things to determine.

                      These are persons of interest who British authorities have stated are members of GRU.

                      They don’t fit the profile of average travelers – the average Russian earns in the order of $1000 US a month, and on such an income a casual trip to Salisbury from London at roughly $100 both ways is no negligible thing, much less two such trips.

                      In the circumstances – the poisoning of a former spy and an apparently innocent bystander – bears some further investigation, and traces of this uncommon poison in their accommodation are sufficient to establish a prima facie case. They are linked to the murder and to the attempted murder. No witch burning required.

                      But by all means persist in your denials – it worked a treat for Ahmadinejad.

        • Bill 7.1.1.2
          14 September 2018 at 5:10 pm

          Thing is, when people can’t engage with the substance of an opinion or analysis, but instead yell about supposed sources* and how they’re gibberish or what not, and/or attack the imagined motivation of the writer (in this case, me) then it’s usually a pretty good indication that the substance of what’s being proposed stacks up, and is being resisted for purely ideological reasons.

          Which is ironic given that one of the main charges usually made is about some unacceptable level of ideological support being offered to x,y or z 😉

          *None of those mentioned were even read in relation to this post. RT was linked solely because RT is the site carrying the interview and transcript

          • Stuart Munro 7.1.1.2.1
            14 September 2018 at 6:12 pm

            The thing is, when an author persists in speculating beyond the limits of the evidence he chooses to present, he erodes his credibility. If you indulged in such speculation a little more even handedly – sometimes condemning or even merely questioning the frequent murderous excesses of Russia, you might be viewed as something other than their ideological captive.

            I cannot recall your ever having done so.

            • Bill 7.1.1.2.1.1
              14 September 2018 at 7:05 pm

              So, see if you can wrap your head around this (it’s pretty simple). From the post –

              …before the usual pom pom brigade flounce in with their usual tired routine, I’m not interested in defending some notion of the Russian government as a great and wonderful institution or set of institutions […] whereas I have precisely zero power to hold the Russian Federation and its bullshit to account, I can at least kick back against some of the bullshit we’re subjected to via media…

              You get it? The propaganda I’m subjected to western propaganda, not Russian propaganda. Think of it like the weather. I react to the weather I’m subjected to, not some fucking storm or sunny spell in Alaska or wherever.

              • In Vino …
                14 September 2018 at 7:35 pm

                I am with Bill on this one. Russia has always been a country of murderous excesses, strong only when ruled with a rod of iron. We all know that, unless we have little understanding of history.
                So when Bill calls our own mendacious propaganda into question, I think he is quite right to do so.
                You have to be pretty one-eyed to attack Bill for being a Russia-lover simply because you like to think that the Russians are always worse than us.
                This is like 1984 or Brave New World… It seems that we must constantly generate big bullshit stories about an evil, external enemy.
                In 2001, Russia had collapsed, and terrorism became that external enemy.
                No longer scary enough now, so the evil Russians are being resurrected?
                Regardless of how bad the Russians may be, I do not like our own mendacious media trying to manipulate us.

                • Stuart Munro …
                  14 September 2018 at 8:40 pm

                  ” you like to think that the Russians are always worse than us”

                  I’m more concerned with what they do:
                  Routine killing of critical journalists
                  Routine poisoning of regime enemies or critics
                  Routine murder of opposition politicians
                  Routine demonization of uncle tom cobbly and all who criticizes them or any of the fatuous lies they promulgate faster than we can debunk them.

                  Don’t get me wrong – there is plenty to critique the UK for – but they don’t go as far. And I’m minded to believe that the difference is important – goes to the possibility of achieving any semblance of real democracy, like the one that may see Corbyn eventually reverse some of the worst excesses of Thatcherism for example.

                  There’s an agenda behind all this denialism that is tremendously corrosive of civic institutions like a free and fair press, of government that does not consist of military dictators or their spawn and so forth. And that agenda is hardwired into the propaganda of kleptostatists like Putin – one cannot simply repeat their lines without serving their agendas.

                  • In Vino …
                    16 September 2018 at 8:02 pm

                    The old paranoia and spreading fear..
                    Russia is far less dangerous than you pretend. And those who point this out are far less corrosive than you claim.
                    I remember claims in the late 70s that with the number of tanks and soldiers the USSR had, they would be on the banks of the Rhine river in 3 days should war break out. Later, I read the rebuttal in the English ‘Spectator’ magazine. One third of those tanks were like the RNZAF jet fighters: unavailable for combat because needing maintenance or repair. And the soldiers could not all advance westwards because they were needed where they were to keep people like Ukrainians etc under control.
                    Same bullshit about the danger of USSR subs with missiles: it was later admitted by the US that they were advanced enough to have a tracker/hunter sub on the tail of every noisy USSR sub. Easily detected and tracked… Inferior technology.
                    While Russia is a big country that uses its resources wisely, it is still in no position to attack the West militarily. Russia has always been a poor country compared to Western industrialised countries. It is still basically a poor country.
                    Nothing has changed about Russia’s despotic methods of rule. But that has been known for years. Why are you surprised about it? I rather suspect that the West is in control and manipulating all this Skripal crap.

                    • Stuart Munro …
                      16 September 2018 at 8:14 pm

                      Both sides exaggerated military threats – it was their job security.

                      But the miserable life of ordinary citizens under soviet repression was not exaggerated, nor was the viciousness of the secret war waged between those powers.

                      “I rather suspect that the West is in control and manipulating all this Skripal crap.”

                      Of course the West is playing the Skripal story to some extent. But pretending that Russia is not is fatuous.

                    • In Vino …
                      16 September 2018 at 10:16 pm

                      Well, we are nearly agreeing. Just a matter of which emphasis one finds appropriate? And is the West not grinding down many of its own citizens to a level of poverty that Russians have always known?

                    • Stuart Munro …
                      16 September 2018 at 10:42 pm

                      There’s a little more to contemporary Russian repression than economics – the kleptocracy has prevented the development of a credible democratic process and a mature judiciary, which is why they can still kill dissenters and inconvenient persons with such frequency.

                      They are also very active in the propaganda sphere, having recognized the efficacy of the Al Jazeera model in providing alternative or locally based rational perspectives, they modeled RT on it.

                      When we come to issues like the Skripals, or MH17, or Trump’s banking links, the propaganda storm follows a recognizable pattern (as do Israeli efforts to oust Jeremy Corbyn for that matter), a similar intelligence driven campaign presented in the media as news.

                      Real news follows certain rules – attribution of sources for example – which make following the skein of any untruth relatively easy.

                      I’m not sure if you are aware of the data journalism of Eliot Higgins of Bellingcat for example, but he was able to use facebook posts from Russian military families to identify the BUK that shot down MH17 while the official Russian line was still photoshopped pictures of a Ukrainian fighter. I’m pretty sure that he subsequently was tipped off to some of the satellite images his agency had to pay to see, by intelligence agencies who wanted that inconvenient-to-Russia truth to come out.

                      Russia in turn has largely co-opted Assange’s infrastructure for it’s own leaks, and RT has descended considerably from the journalistic model it initially ran while it was building credibility.

                      There’s a kind of dynamic tension between the self-styled great powers here, and I’m concerned when otherwise mature adults roll over and just sing RT cant – it adds nothing to debate – it’s designed not to get to the truth but to prevent rational analysis, And the upshot is a Left too divided to address issues like the bombing of civilians in Syria – which is absurd – because the infrastructure of oppression, of bombs and bombers, is never in the hands of the poor and the oppressed.

                    • In Vino …
                      17 September 2018 at 12:23 am

                      All fair and good – but I don’t like us rolling over and accepting obfuscatory bullshit from our own side either. Fair?

  8. Michael 8
    14 September 2018 at 2:41 pm

    It’s not clear whether these two men are, in fact, the innocent parties they claim to be. The Russian government is run by KGB dirty tricks operatives, for whom no lie is too great and no act is too foul, if it preserves their power and wealth. Where “Russia” is concerned (and I mean it’s government, which extend far wider and deeper than western governments), it is best not to take its statements at face value. Russia exploits western gullibility time and time again. Containment is the best policy unless or until Russia demonstrates that it will observe civilised norms of behaviour.

  9. esoteric pineapples 9
    14 September 2018 at 3:24 pm

    Good on you Bill for continuing to push this. All I know is that the UK government has been pushing a crock and so you can’t give any credence to anything they say whether it is true or not, because we will never know.

  10. esoteric pineapples 10
    14 September 2018 at 4:15 pm

    Anyone remember the Brazilian killed point blank on a train by British police who thought he was a terrorist. No one got found guilty of that.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2005/jul/24/july7.uksecurity3

    • James 10.1
      14 September 2018 at 4:23 pm

      Nice false equivalence.

      • esoteric pineapples 10.1.1
        14 September 2018 at 4:29 pm

        I don’t see why. The point is that the British security services are quite good at making lethal mistakes.

        • McFlock 10.1.1.1
          14 September 2018 at 4:49 pm

          In that case, people know who exactly fired the shots and who they worked for.

          Now, it is a good case study in how domestic law enforcement often covers its arse with flurries of disinformation (the allegation de Menezes had jumped turnstiles rather than paying, a brightened photo to make him look more like the suspect he was supposedly mistaken for, the “police!” identification call that was never made, etc), but it’s not comparable to factors in the Salisbury poisoning case. For a start, if they’d been responsible the brits would have cleaned up their poison bottle.

          • Dukeofurl 10.1.1.1.1
            14 September 2018 at 7:02 pm

            Its an example of ‘group think’

            They all end up making something implausible into something that is real.

            History of that in the Hillsborough Soccer stadium coverup, and BOTH The Irish Bloody Sundays ( Derry and Dublin) coverups.

            Interesting that an Irish Mp in the house of Commons was assaulted by other Mps when he tried to ask questions about the 1920 massacre at Croke Park

            • McFlock 10.1.1.1.1.1
              14 September 2018 at 9:26 pm

              The innocent Brazilian being shot was group think leading to a snap decision.

              The coverups aren’t. Those are directed actions. Pretty much always – someone is giving orders with the sole objective of muddying the waters to cover their own arse.

  11. esoteric pineapples 11
    14 September 2018 at 4:27 pm

    In societies where there is a certain level of freedom of information, one of the most effective ways to spread dis-information is simply put the message you want people to believe in the headline. Most people are too busy to follow the majority of news stories closely and so if they see a headline like “Two Russians behind plot discovered” they will simply take this as fact and then move on. Personally, I’ve found it amazing how many news stories I have found out more about later, contain facts that are completely the opposite of the picture I have built up at the time from the headlines.

  12. esoteric pineapples 12
    14 September 2018 at 4:39 pm

    These two guys strike me as a couple of patsies who were part of something but are being played as part of a bigger picture.

    • Stuart Munro 12.1
      14 September 2018 at 4:47 pm

      That may be true even if they are entirely guilty. It is not unheard of for self-styled great powers to abandon agents who become inconvenient.

  13. Andre 13
    14 September 2018 at 4:44 pm

    I’m interested in how a small dose of russian state media is like kryptonite to many of those normally possessed of media hyperscrutiny superpowers.

    • Stunned mullet 13.1
      14 September 2018 at 5:21 pm

      Bill still hasn’t forgiven the English for the outrages of Edward Longshanks.

      • adam 13.1.1
        14 September 2018 at 6:17 pm

        Another sad comment by Stunned Mullet attacking the author. Been a few this post mate, how about you actually run with facts than this BS your running with? Too soon?

  14. R.P Mcmurphy 14
    14 September 2018 at 4:47 pm

    well that was a marvellous exposition of marxist leninist stalinist mao tse tung thought!

    • marty mars 15.1
      14 September 2018 at 6:42 pm

      That’s a good link thanks. It’s funny this ‘no man would be seen wirh women’s perfume in their bag’ when like it’s not that unusual really.

    • Adrian Thornton 15.2
      14 September 2018 at 8:33 pm

      @Andre
      “I’m interested in how a small dose of russian state media is like kryptonite to many of those normally possessed of media hyperscrutiny superpowers”

      ….and then without the slightest hint of irony, actually puts up a Daily Mail link in support of his argument…a beautiful and hilarious moment on The Standard, unfortunately to late in the night for many others to enjoy, what a shame.

      • Andre 15.2.1
        14 September 2018 at 9:14 pm

        Do you have anything to say about the points made in that Daily Mail piece? Some of them you can even check out for yourself, such as the absence of snow or slush in the photos.

        As for interpreting the body language of someone from a different culture in a very odd setting and who may have had some very unusual training, it’s very easy for there to be a lot of seeing what you want to see.

        Lindy Chamberlain reportedly got falsely put away partly because of how her body language was interpreted. I have a cousin that spent months defending someone against a murder charge that came about primarily because first responders thought the accused’s body language “wasn’t right”. The case fell apart when fresh evidence turned up that completely exonerated the accused.

        • Bill 15.2.1.1
          14 September 2018 at 10:03 pm

          If you want pictures and reports of the weather over those days, go through the links I provided in this previous comment.

          As for the Mails “glaring flaws”

          1. What novichok in the room? The novichok that keeled over umpteen guests in the past six months? The novichok two guys decided to “test drive” in a hotel room because….I dunno…the door handles were a challenging shape?

          2. The day they flew into Britain, “everything” was at a stand still. And they stated they intended to be in London and do a day trip. No idea what’s so suspicious about that.

          3. On the Saturday, the problem was slush, not snow, making their feet wet and cold (and if you’ve never experienced slush, I’d suggest you hold your tongue on the whole “Russians and cold” front). Sunday afternoon, they said it got overcast and began to sleet.

          4. They went wandering, or struck off in the wrong direction? Of itself, a nothing. You’ve surely done it yourself in a new place, no?

          5. Well yes, no CCTV stills of them at the cathedral (released by UK authorities?) Apparently they took photos though, which I guess they may feature in and that media may convince them to show.

          6. As you can see from the link I’ve provided, both Stonehenge and Old Sarum were shut on the Saturday (3rd) because of snow and Old Sarum was still shut on the Sunday (4th). The Mail only mentions that Stonehenge was open on the Sunday.

          7. Date (or video tape time stamp?) are for the UK authorities to explain.

          8. I didn’t hear any official Russian statement claiming all the CCTV stills were faked.

          9. That the Skripals were poisoned on that day, doesn’t mean anything with regards their claims.

          10. I know nothing about flights being pre – booked for both Sunday and Monday.

          • Andre 15.2.1.1.1
            15 September 2018 at 5:58 am

            You appear to be confused about the difference in concentrations of a substance that are detectable and the concentrations that are immediately toxic. That something is detectable doesn’t mean it’s present in an amount that’s harmful, as shown by the meth house debacle. I’d be more interested in hearing about the detection methods and the probability of false positives, but then I wouldn’t necessarily expect that kind of detail about methods and capabilities to be publicly disclosed. If I were on a jury however, I would expect to hear it or I would consider talk about about results without talk about methods to be just a baffle with bullshit exercise.

            I’ve spent 6 years living where winter snow, and slush was present for months on end, and enjoy snow sports so most winters I’m around a fair bit of snow and slush and crap weather. I find the suggestion utterly laughable that someone from Russia (y’know, where there’s lots of snow and slush) travelling to where there had been a well publicised storm going on for the past week, would arrive with footwear so unsuitable they would need to alter their plans to buy replacements, as if they were going to Club Med. But hey, if you’re sufficiently motivated, I suppose you could swallow it with a straight face.

            Their explanation that they went through the same entry gate is very likely demonstrably false (remember the shouting about the different camera angles?), yet also corroborates a very good reason for the time stamps being the same: they were going through parallel passages at the same time.

            One add coincidence of timing could be just bad luck. Add up enough odd coincidences, however, and it starts to become reasonable to think it’s something other than just bad luck.

            • Bill 15.2.1.1.1.1
              15 September 2018 at 10:41 am

              I find the suggestion utterly laughable that someone from Russia […]would arrive with footwear so unsuitable …

              Here are two CCTV stills from a quick google image search. The first link is to one from the 3rd. The second to one from the 4th. Note the footwear. On the 3rd, they are wearing trainers. As you will know, you “can’t” wear trainers in slush.

              So yeah, maybe it’s funny they turned up in that gear. But they did. And their account of themselves stacks up. (Or are we to insist that Russians don’t fly to foreign cities for a two or three day break to take in some local sites…like people from every other damned country do?)

              https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/novichok-poisoning-probe-everything-we-know-about-prime-suspects-alexander-petrov-and-ruslan-a3928401.html

              https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/09/06/russias-military-intelligence-gru-isnt-stupid/

              Until some evidence to the contrary is produced, or unless the idea is simply to be led by paranoid bullshit about everything Russian, the situation is that those guys were in the wrong place at the wrong time.

              edit – in the interview they are quite clear that they don’t recall the exact situation re – the corridor, but state that they always go through the same queue at passport control because one of them has far better English than the other. As they say, the same time stamp – or is it a video run time stamp? – is down to UK authorities to explain.

            • RedLogix 15.2.1.1.1.2
              15 September 2018 at 11:00 am

              Nah … I don’t buy your ‘unsuitable’ footwear thing. I’ve travelled quite a bit to all sorts of odd climates and quite often I finish up either buying or being issued more suitable footwear when I arrive locally.

              Either big warm boots were too heavy pack or I just didn’t think it through. In my experience their narrative is not unreasonable.

        • Adrian Thornton 15.2.1.2
          14 September 2018 at 10:14 pm

          I don’t read The Daily Mail, especially if I can avoid it.

          I spent a few days on the jury of a sexual assault charge brought against a man on a 12 yo girl (the daughter of his girlfriend), it was obvious to me from the very beginning that something didn’t make sense in this case (keeping in mind that my own daughter was about 12 yo at the time, and I am pretty sure I would fuck up anybody who touched her in the way alleged) however 6 people on jury immediately made it clear in our first meeting, that they were sure he was guilty, 3 were undecided, and 3 leaning toward innocence.
          After three days, and having to endure what would have to have been the most incompetent defense lawyer in New Zealand, the jury was at 9 to 3 toward guilty.

          I was by this stage absolutely convinced that this guy was some sort of sad chump who had been used by some very manipulative people, who all seemed to have serious addiction problems. The accused seemed to be the only one working, he actually lived in Taranaki working as a linesman (or something similar), and would drive all the way the Bay on Friday evening to be with this woman and drive home Sunday night.
          As far as i could make out he spent most weekends working either on their cars or houses.
          The recorded police interview was just bizarre, it was like something from Monty Python,
          The Police interviewed the mother and her friend while the daughter was present…infact I think she might have been holding her mothers hand.

          I felt that justice would prevail though, as the two remaining people who thought he was innocent were two very strong and independent woman in their early 50’s.
          They both approached me together just before the final verdict was to be given, and said that they were very glad that I have been so outspoken in my defense of this man, whom they both believed to be innocent.

          When the jury gave it’s verdict, the judge wasn’t please at all and instructed us in no uncertain terms (I would say bullying tones were used) to go back and come to a consensus.
          The two woman caved within 5 minutes after that little bit of pressure from such an authority figure.

          I couldn’t believe my ears and eyes, these woman had succumbed so easily, wether he was innocent or not is not the point of the story, the point is 6 of our fellow citizens were prepared to convict and man and fuck up the rest of his life after hearing less than half a days evidence ( I think we all know why)
          2 others actually convicted him knowing he was innocent.

          Bill is just saying, sit back wait for some indisputable evidence and then make your judgment…and I agree.

          • RedLogix 15.2.1.2.1
            14 September 2018 at 10:56 pm

            Yup. Similar experience on a jury myself; although in this instance only one very quiet Indian woman and myself were convinced of his innocence. It was only at the very last moment that the judge allowed us to review some crucial police evidence again, that the false abduction and rape allegation became obvious to everyone.

            It all hinged on an absurd detail and I won’t rehash the whole story over 20 years later, but it did reveal to me how incredibly devious people can be and as you say, just how fickle juries can be. One young blowhard in particular was ideologically determined to convict simply on the grounds that ‘there is no such thing as a false rape allegation’. Got quite offensive about it, but we got no retraction when the truth became undeniable.

          • Morrissey 15.2.1.2.2
            15 September 2018 at 7:38 am

            Sounds like the sort of judge Chris “Haw Haw” Trotter would respect.

            https://morrisseybreen.blogspot.com/2018/01/chris-trotter-reckons-zimmerman-jury.html

            • Adrian Thornton 15.2.1.2.2.1
              15 September 2018 at 8:13 am

              Ha, thanks for that Morrissey, I don’t know what it is, but there something about Noelle McCarthy that makes me want to smash my head into the closest wall as soon as I hear her voice…turning off the radio also helps.

      • McFlock 15.2.2
        14 September 2018 at 9:48 pm

        To be fair, the Daily Mail actually putting up a coherent and apparently reasonable article is a bit suspicious, lol

        • Andre 15.2.2.1
          15 September 2018 at 4:02 am

          Yeah. The whole ‘consider the argument, don’t just dismiss it coz of where it came from’ thing was part of the motivation for posting it.

          • Bill 15.2.2.1.1
            15 September 2018 at 10:51 am

            It’s a litany of half truths, innuendo and misleading nonsense. In fact, the exact same pattern of presentation that marks the kind of propaganda that many around here immediately jump up to condemn as “fake” news.

  16. adam 16
    14 September 2018 at 6:44 pm

    Sheesh Bill your brave. But there is no point trying to defend ordinary people from the hard core devotees of liberalism on this site. They just don’t give a rats about the possibility of real people having their lives done over.

    • Bill 16.1
      14 September 2018 at 7:19 pm

      I just find it really weird (and quite fascinating) that so many people approach stuff like this as would members of some cult if their “received wisdoms” were subjected to criticism or scrutiny…y’know, ignore the substance of what’s being said and burn the witch! – or scream those self same “received wisdoms” or dogma at them 🙂

  17. corodale 17
    14 September 2018 at 7:03 pm

    Gas explosions in Massachusetts duplicated in Mexico yesterday. Stuxnet cyber attacks? Simple malfunctions, I suspect not.

    It would not surprise me if these are the real Russian attacks. But UK/May talk in riddles with symbolic lies. Don’t want to alarm folk, but perhaps Russians could potentially explode nuclear power plants via the internet… I suspect the truth is somewhere in this direction.

    Fiction may be as much as we can handle. On a planet this big, we may not be ready for the truth.

    Sorry if that sounds anti-Russian, I’m not trying to take sides, just pointing out what looks likely. Hey, it could be the Dems as part of their blue revolution. Time will tell.

  18. Adrian Thornton 18
    14 September 2018 at 8:24 pm

    I have just got home and watched the interview, those poor guys look like opossums in the preverbal headlight, I don’t profess to have any deep or special insight into human behavior, but I do know a scared one when I see one, and these guys looked liked they where right in the middle of a shitty journey to somewhere bad.

    I thought the interviewer was good, pretty pressing, someone made an comparison to Kim Hill, which I would agree with if we were maybe talking about Kim from a quite few years back.

    Thanks for your piece Bill.

  19. Richard 19
    14 September 2018 at 8:46 pm

    I hadn’t been convinced by Bill’s arguments about Russia and the UK till I saw those two Russian guys on RT.

    So clear they’re just tourists on a 2 day trip to the UK to Salisbury to see the cathedral. Everyone does that, so utterly believable.

    Kia kaha Bill keep standing up for Putin!

    • adam 19.1
      14 September 2018 at 10:10 pm

      Another lying troll, sheesh the idiots are out today.

      So where did Bill defend Putin?

      Or are you just another useful idiot for MI6 – oh look how easy it is, to play that game.

      • Richard 19.1.1
        15 September 2018 at 7:52 pm

        “So where did Bill defend Putin?”

        By taking RT’s talking points and other Russian disinformation and regurgitating it in blog after blog. Plop Bill into another decade and he’d probably be defending Mao and Stalin.

        And where did I lie? I’m afraid sarcasm doesn’t count in that regard.

  20. Jenny 20
    15 September 2018 at 2:20 am

    Comedy Gold

    Skripal suspects display impressive command of Wikipedia
    John Crace – The Guardian, September 13, 2018

    They were just two ordinary guys who had wanted to see Salisbury cathedral’s 123-metre spire

    ….A day after Vladimir Putin had announced it would be fine by him if the two men accused of the Salisbury poisonings chose to go on TV to give the version of events that had been agreed by the Russian security services, Alexander Petrov and Ruslan Boshirov found a gap in their busy diaries to squeeze themselves into a small Moscow studio. There they were confronted by the most feared interviewer in global broadcasting, Margarita Simonyan, RT’s editor-in-chief.

    Simonyan didn’t pull her punches. “You do look like the men in the pictures,” she began hesitantly. That’s because they were the men in the CCTV footage, both men replied…..

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  • The Case for a Universal Family Benefit
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    20 hours ago

  • A who’s who of New Zealand’s dodgiest companies
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    22 hours ago

  • On Lee’s watch, Economic Development seems to be stuck on scoring points from promoting sporting e...
    Buzz from the Beehive A few days ago, Point of Order suggested the media must be musing “on why Melissa is mute”. Our article reported that people working in the beleaguered media industry have cause to yearn for a minister as busy as Melissa Lee’s ministerial colleagues and we drew ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    23 hours ago

  • New Zealand has never been closed for business
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    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    24 hours ago

  • Stop the panic – we’ve been here before
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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    1 day ago

  • Melissa Lee and the media: ending the quest
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    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    1 day ago

  • The Hoon around the week to April 19
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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    1 day ago

  • The ‘Humpty Dumpty’ end result of dismantling our environmental protections
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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    1 day ago

  • Nicola's Salad Days.
    I like to keep an eye on what’s happening in places like the UK, the US, and over the ditch with our good mates the Aussies. Let’s call them AUKUS, for want of a better collective term. More on that in a bit.It used to be, not long ago, that ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    1 day ago

  • Study sees climate change baking in 19% lower global income by 2050
    TL;DR: The global economy will be one fifth smaller than it would have otherwise been in 2050 as a result of climate damage, according to a new study by the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research (PIK) and published in the journal Nature. (See more detail and analysis below, and ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    1 day ago

  • Weekly Roundup 19-April-2024
    It’s Friday again. Here’s some of the things that caught our attention this week. This Week on Greater Auckland On Tuesday Matt covered at the government looking into a long tunnel for Wellington. On Wednesday we ran a post from Oscar Simms on some lessons from Texas. AT’s ...
    Greater AucklandBy Matt L
    1 day ago

  • Jack Vowles: Stop the panic – we’ve been here before
    New Zealand is said to be suffering from ‘serious populist discontent’. An IPSOS MORI survey has reported that we have an increasing preference for strong leaders, think that the economy is rigged toward the rich and powerful, and political elites are ignoring ‘hard-working people’.  The data is from February this ...
    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    1 day ago

  • Clearing up confusion (or trying to)
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters is understood to be planning a major speech within the next fortnight to clear up the confusion over whether or not New Zealand might join the AUKUS submarine project. So far, there have been conflicting signals from the Government. RNZ reported the Prime Minister yesterday in ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    1 day ago

  • How to Retrieve Deleted Call Log iPhone Without Computer
    How to Retrieve Deleted Call Log on iPhone Without a Computer: A Step–by–Step Guide Losing your iPhone call history can be frustrating, especially when you need to find a specific number or recall an important conversation. But before you panic, know that there are ways to retrieve deleted call logs on your iPhone, even without a computer. This guide will explore various methods, ranging from simple checks to utilizing iCloud backups and third–party applications. So, let‘s dive in and recover those lost calls! 1. Check Recently Deleted Folder: Apple understands that accidental deletions happen. That‘s why they introduced the “Recently Deleted“ folder for various apps, including the Phone app. This folder acts as a safety net, storing deleted call logs for up to 30 days before permanently erasing them. Here‘s how to check it: Open the Phone app on your iPhone. Tap on the “Recents“ tab at the bottom. Scroll to the top and tap on “Edit“. Select “Show Recently Deleted“. Browse the list to find the call logs you want to recover. Tap on the desired call log and choose “Recover“ to restore it to your call history. 2. Restore from iCloud Backup: If you regularly back up your iPhone to iCloud, you might be able to retrieve your deleted call log from a previous backup. However, keep in mind that this process will restore your entire phone to the state it was in at the time of the backup, potentially erasing any data added since then. Here‘s how to restore from an iCloud backup: Go to Settings > General > Reset. Choose “Erase All Content and Settings“. Follow the on–screen instructions. Your iPhone will restart and show the initial setup screen. Choose “Restore from iCloud Backup“ during the setup process. Select the relevant backup that contains your deleted call log. Wait for the restoration process to complete. 3. Explore Third–Party Apps (with Caution): ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    1 day ago

  • How to Factory Reset iPhone without Computer: A Comprehensive Guide to Restoring your Device
    Life throws curveballs, and sometimes, those curveballs necessitate wiping your iPhone clean and starting anew. Whether you’re facing persistent software glitches, preparing to sell your device, or simply wanting a fresh start, knowing how to factory reset iPhone without a computer is a valuable skill. While using a computer with ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    2 days ago

  • How to Call Someone on a Computer: A Guide to Voice and Video Communication in the Digital Age
    Gone are the days when communication was limited to landline phones and physical proximity. Today, computers have become powerful tools for connecting with people across the globe through voice and video calls. But with a plethora of applications and methods available, how to call someone on a computer might seem ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    2 days ago

  • Skeptical Science New Research for Week #16 2024
    Open access notables Glacial isostatic adjustment reduces past and future Arctic subsea permafrost, Creel et al., Nature Communications: Sea-level rise submerges terrestrial permafrost in the Arctic, turning it into subsea permafrost. Subsea permafrost underlies ~ 1.8 million km2 of Arctic continental shelf, with thicknesses in places exceeding 700 m. Sea-level variations over glacial-interglacial cycles control ...
    Skeptical Science
    2 days ago

  • Where on a Computer is the Operating System Generally Stored? Delving into the Digital Home of your ...
    The operating system (OS) is the heart and soul of a computer, orchestrating every action and interaction between hardware and software. But have you ever wondered where on a computer is the operating system generally stored? The answer lies in the intricate dance between hardware and software components, particularly within ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    2 days ago

  • How Many Watts Does a Laptop Use? Understanding Power Consumption and Efficiency
    Laptops have become essential tools for work, entertainment, and communication, offering portability and functionality. However, with rising energy costs and growing environmental concerns, understanding a laptop’s power consumption is more important than ever. So, how many watts does a laptop use? The answer, unfortunately, isn’t straightforward. It depends on several ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    2 days ago

  • How to Screen Record on a Dell Laptop A Guide to Capturing Your Screen with Ease
    Screen recording has become an essential tool for various purposes, such as creating tutorials, capturing gameplay footage, recording online meetings, or sharing information with others. Fortunately, Dell laptops offer several built-in and external options for screen recording, catering to different needs and preferences. This guide will explore various methods on ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    2 days ago

  • How Much Does it Cost to Fix a Laptop Screen? Navigating Repair Options and Costs
    A cracked or damaged laptop screen can be a frustrating experience, impacting productivity and enjoyment. Fortunately, laptop screen repair is a common service offered by various repair shops and technicians. However, the cost of fixing a laptop screen can vary significantly depending on several factors. This article delves into the ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    2 days ago

  • How Long Do Gaming Laptops Last? Demystifying Lifespan and Maximizing Longevity
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    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    2 days ago

  • Climate Change: Turning the tide
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago

  • How to Unlock Your Computer A Comprehensive Guide to Regaining Access
    Experiencing a locked computer can be frustrating, especially when you need access to your files and applications urgently. The methods to unlock your computer will vary depending on the specific situation and the type of lock you encounter. This guide will explore various scenarios and provide step-by-step instructions on how ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    2 days ago

  • Faxing from Your Computer A Modern Guide to Sending Documents Digitally
    While the world has largely transitioned to digital communication, faxing still holds relevance in certain industries and situations. Fortunately, gone are the days of bulky fax machines and dedicated phone lines. Today, you can easily send and receive faxes directly from your computer, offering a convenient and efficient way to ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    2 days ago

  • Protecting Your Home Computer A Guide to Cyber Awareness
    In our increasingly digital world, home computers have become essential tools for work, communication, entertainment, and more. However, this increased reliance on technology also exposes us to various cyber threats. Understanding these threats and taking proactive steps to protect your home computer is crucial for safeguarding your personal information, finances, ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    2 days ago

  • Server-Based Computing Powering the Modern Digital Landscape
    In the ever-evolving world of technology, server-based computing has emerged as a cornerstone of modern digital infrastructure. This article delves into the concept of server-based computing, exploring its various forms, benefits, challenges, and its impact on the way we work and interact with technology. Understanding Server-Based Computing: At its core, ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    2 days ago

  • Vroom vroom go the big red trucks
    The absolute brass neck of this guy.We want more medical doctors, not more spin doctors, Luxon was saying a couple of weeks ago, and now we’re told the guy has seven salaried adults on TikTok duty. Sorry, doing social media. The absolute brass neck of it. The irony that the ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    2 days ago

  • Jones finds $410,000 to help the government muscle in on a spat project
    Buzz from the Beehive Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones relishes spatting and eagerly takes issue with environmentalists who criticise his enthusiasm for resource development. He relishes helping the fishing industry too. And so today, while the media are making much of the latest culling in the public service to ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    2 days ago

  • Again, hate crimes are not necessarily terrorism.
    Having written, taught and worked for the US government on issues involving unconventional warfare and terrorism for 30-odd years, two things irritate me the most when the subject is discussed in public. The first is the Johnny-come-lately academics-turned-media commentators who … Continue reading → ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    2 days ago

  • Despair – construction consenting edition
    Eric Crampton writes – Kainga Ora is the government’s house building agency. It’s been building a lot of social housing. Kainga Ora has its own (but independent) consenting authority, Consentium. It’s a neat idea. Rather than have to deal with building consents across each different territorial authority, Kainga Ora ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago

  • Coalition promises – will the Govt keep the commitment to keep Kiwis equal before the law?
    Muriel Newman writes – The Coalition Government says it is moving with speed to deliver campaign promises and reverse the damage done by Labour. One of their key commitments is to “defend the principle that New Zealanders are equal before the law.” To achieve this, they have pledged they “will not advance ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago

  • An impermanent public service is a guarantee of very little else but failure
    Chris Trotter writes –  The absence of anything resembling a fightback from the public servants currently losing their jobs is interesting. State-sector workers’ collective fatalism in the face of Coalition cutbacks indicates a surprisingly broad acceptance of impermanence in the workplace. Fifty years ago, lay-offs in the thousands ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago

  • What happens after the war – Mariupol
    Mariupol, on the Azov Sea coast, was one of the first cities to suffer almost complete destruction after the start of the Ukraine War started in late February 2022. We remember the scenes of absolute destruction of the houses and city structures. The deaths of innocent civilians – many of ...
    Open ParachuteBy Ken
    2 days ago

  • Babies and benefits – no good news
    Lindsay Mitchell writes – Ten years ago, I wrote the following in a Listener column: Every year around one in five new-born babies will be reliant on their caregivers benefit by Christmas. This pattern has persisted from at least 1993. For Maori the number jumps to over one in three.  ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago

  • Should the RBNZ be looking through climate inflation?
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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    2 days ago

  • Bernard's pick 'n' mix of the news links
    The top six news links I’ve seen elsewhere in the last 24 hours, as of 9:16 am on Thursday, April 18 are:Housing: Tauranga residents living in boats, vans RNZ Checkpoint Louise TernouthHousing: Waikato councillor says wastewater plant issues could hold up Sleepyhead building a massive company town Waikato Times Stephen ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    2 days ago

  • Gordon Campbell on the public sector carnage, and misogyny as terrorism
    It’s a simple deal. We pay taxes in order to finance the social services we want and need. The carnage now occurring across the public sector though, is breaking that contract. Over 3,000 jobs have been lost so far. Many are in crucial areas like Education where the impact of ...
    Gordon CampbellBy lyndon
    2 days ago

  • Meeting the Master Baiters
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    David FarrierBy David Farrier
    2 days ago

  • How extreme was the Earth's temperature in 2023
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    Skeptical Science
    3 days ago

  • Backbone, revisited
    The schools are on holiday and the sun is shining in the seaside village and all day long I have been seeing bunches of bikes; Mums, Dads, teens and toddlers chattering, laughing, happy, having a bloody great time together. Cheers, AT, for the bits of lane you’ve added lately around the ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    3 days ago

  • Ministers are not above the law
    Today in our National-led authoritarian nightmare: Shane Jones thinks Ministers should be above the law: New Zealand First MP Shane Jones is accusing the Waitangi Tribunal of over-stepping its mandate by subpoenaing a minister for its urgent hearing on the Oranga Tamariki claim. The tribunal is looking into the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago

  • What’s the outfit you can hear going down the gurgler? Probably it’s David Parker’s Oceans Sec...
    Buzz from the Beehive Point  of Order first heard of the Oceans Secretariat in June 2021, when David Parker (remember him?) announced a multi-agency approach to protecting New Zealand’s marine ecosystems and fisheries. Parker (holding the Environment, and Oceans and Fisheries portfolios) broke the news at the annual Forest & ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    3 days ago

  • Will politicians let democracy die in the darkness?
    Bryce Edwards writes  – Politicians across the political spectrum are implicated in the New Zealand media’s failing health. Either through neglect or incompetent interventions, successive governments have failed to regulate, foster, and allow a healthy Fourth Estate that can adequately hold politicians and the powerful to account. ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • Matt Doocey doubles down on trans “healthcare”
    Citizen Science writes –  Last week saw two significant developments in the debate over the treatment of trans-identifying children and young people – the release in Britain of the final report of Dr Hilary Cass’s review into gender healthcare, and here in New Zealand, the news that the ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • A TikTok Prime Minister.
    One night while sleeping in my bed I had a beautiful dreamThat all the people of the world got together on the same wavelengthAnd began helping one anotherNow in this dream, universal love was the theme of the dayPeace and understanding and it happened this wayAfter such an eventful day ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    3 days ago

  • Texas Lessons
    This is a guest post by Oscar Simms who is a housing activist, volunteer for the Coalition for More Homes, and was the Labour Party candidate for Auckland Central at the last election. ...
    Greater AucklandBy Guest Post
    3 days ago

  • Bernard's pick 'n' mix of the news links at 6:06 am
    The top six news links I’ve seen elsewhere in the last 24 hours as of 6:06 am on Wednesday, April 17 are:Must read: Secrecy shrouds which projects might be fast-tracked RNZ Farah HancockScoop: Revealed: Luxon has seven staffers working on social media content - partly paid for by taxpayer Newshub ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago

  • Fighting poverty on the holiday highway
    Turning what Labour called the “holiday highway” into a four-lane expressway from Auckland to Whangarei could bring at least an economic benefit of nearly two billion a year for Northland each year. And it could help bring an end to poverty in one of New Zealand’s most deprived regions. The ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    3 days ago

  • Bernard's six-stack of substacks at 6:26 pm
    Tonight’s six-stack includes: launching his substack with a bunch of his previous documentaries, including this 1992 interview with Dame Whina Cooper. and here crew give climate activists plenty to do, including this call to submit against the Fast Track Approvals bill. writes brilliantly here on his substack ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    4 days ago

  • At a glance – Is the science settled?
    On February 14, 2023 we announced our Rebuttal Update Project. This included an ask for feedback about the added "At a glance" section in the updated basic rebuttal versions. This weekly blog post series highlights this new section of one of the updated basic rebuttal versions and serves as a ...
    Skeptical Science
    4 days ago

  • Apposite Quotations.
    How Long Is Long Enough? Gaza under Israeli bombardment, July 2014. This posting is exclusive to Bowalley Road. ...
    Bowalley Road
    4 days ago

  • What’s a life worth now?
    You're in the mall when you hear it: some kind of popping sound in the distance, kids with fireworks, maybe. But then a moment of eerie stillness is followed by more of the fireworks sound and there’s also screaming and shrieking and now here come people running for their lives.Does ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    4 days ago

  • Howling at the Moon
    Karl du Fresne writes –  There’s a crisis in the news media and the media are blaming it on everyone except themselves. Culpability is being deflected elsewhere – mainly to the hapless Minister of Communications, Melissa Lee, and the big social media platforms that are accused of hoovering ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago

  • Newshub is Dead.
    I don’t normally send out two newsletters in a day but I figured I’d say something about… the news. If two newsletters is a bit much then maybe just skip one, I don’t want to overload people. Alternatively if you’d be interested in sometimes receiving multiple, smaller updates from me, ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    4 days ago

  • Seymour is chuffed about cutting early-learning red tape – but we hear, too, that Jones has loose...
    Buzz from the Beehive David Seymour and Winston Peters today signalled that at least two ministers of the Crown might be in Wellington today. Seymour (as Associate Minister of Education) announced the removal of more red tape, this time to make it easier for new early learning services to be ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    4 days ago

  • Bryce Edwards: Will politicians let democracy die in the darkness?
    Politicians across the political spectrum are implicated in the New Zealand media’s failing health. Either through neglect or incompetent interventions, successive governments have failed to regulate, foster, and allow a healthy Fourth Estate that can adequately hold politicians and the powerful to account. Our political system is suffering from the ...
    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    4 days ago

  • PM’s South East Asia mission does the business
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon has completed a successful trip to Singapore, Thailand and the Philippines, deepening relationships and capitalising on opportunities. Mr Luxon was accompanied by a business delegation and says the choice of countries represents the priority the New Zealand Government places on South East Asia, and our relationships in ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 hours ago

  • $41m to support clean energy in South East Asia
    New Zealand is demonstrating its commitment to reducing global greenhouse emissions, and supporting clean energy transition in South East Asia, through a contribution of NZ$41 million (US$25 million) in climate finance to the Asian Development Bank (ADB)-led Energy Transition Mechanism (ETM). Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and Climate Change Minister Simon Watts announced ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    22 hours ago

  • Minister releases Fast-track stakeholder list
    The Government is today releasing a list of organisations who received letters about the Fast-track applications process, says RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop. “Recently Ministers and agencies have received a series of OIA requests for a list of organisations to whom I wrote with information on applying to have a ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Judicial appointments announced
    Attorney-General Judith Collins today announced the appointment of Wellington Barrister David Jonathan Boldt as a Judge of the High Court, and the Honourable Justice Matthew Palmer as a Judge of the Court of Appeal. Justice Boldt graduated with an LLB from Victoria University of Wellington in 1990, and also holds ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Education Minister heads to major teaching summit in Singapore
    Education Minister Erica Stanford will lead the New Zealand delegation at the 2024 International Summit on the Teaching Profession (ISTP) held in Singapore. The delegation includes representatives from the Post Primary Teachers’ Association (PPTA) Te Wehengarua and the New Zealand Educational Institute (NZEI) Te Riu Roa.  The summit is co-hosted ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Value of stopbank project proven during cyclone
    A stopbank upgrade project in Tairawhiti partly funded by the Government has increased flood resilience for around 7000ha of residential and horticultural land so far, Regional Development Minister Shane Jones says. Mr Jones today attended a dawn service in Gisborne to mark the end of the first stage of the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Anzac commemorations, Türkiye relationship focus of visit
    Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters will represent the Government at Anzac Day commemorations on the Gallipoli Peninsula next week and engage with senior representatives of the Turkish government in Istanbul.    “The Gallipoli campaign is a defining event in our history. It will be a privilege to share the occasion ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Minister to Europe for OECD meeting, Anzac Day
    Science, Innovation and Technology and Defence Minister Judith Collins will next week attend the OECD Science and Technology Ministerial conference in Paris and Anzac Day commemorations in Belgium. “Science, innovation and technology have a major role to play in rebuilding our economy and achieving better health, environmental and social outcomes ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Comprehensive Partnership the goal for NZ and the Philippines
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon held a bilateral meeting today with the President of the Philippines, Ferdinand Marcos Jr.  The Prime Minister was accompanied by MP Paulo Garcia, the first Filipino to be elected to a legislature outside the Philippines. During today’s meeting, Prime Minister Luxon and President Marcos Jr discussed opportunities to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Government commits $20m to Westport flood protection
    The Government has announced that $20 million in funding will be made available to Westport to fund much needed flood protection around the town. This measure will significantly improve the resilience of the community, says Local Government Minister Simeon Brown. “The Westport community has already been allocated almost $3 million ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Taupō takes pole position
    The Government is proud to support the first ever Repco Supercars Championship event in Taupō as up to 70,000 motorsport fans attend the Taupō International Motorsport Park this weekend, says Economic Development Minister Melissa Lee. “Anticipation for the ITM Taupō Super400 is huge, with tickets and accommodation selling out weeks ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Cost of living support for low-income homeowners
    Local Government Minister Simeon Brown has announced an increase to the Rates Rebate Scheme, putting money back into the pockets of low-income homeowners.  “The coalition Government is committed to bringing down the cost of living for New Zealanders. That includes targeted support for those Kiwis who are doing things tough, such ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Government backing mussel spat project
    The Coalition Government is investing in a project to boost survival rates of New Zealand mussels and grow the industry, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones has announced. “This project seeks to increase the resilience of our mussels and significantly boost the sector’s productivity,” Mr Jones says. “The project - ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Government focused on getting people into work
    Benefit figures released today underscore the importance of the Government’s plan to rebuild the economy and have 50,000 fewer people on Jobseeker Support, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says. “Benefit numbers are still significantly higher than when National was last in government, when there was about 70,000 fewer ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Clean energy key driver to reducing emissions
    The Government’s commitment to doubling New Zealand’s renewable energy capacity is backed by new data showing that clean energy has helped the country reach its lowest annual gross emissions since 1999, Climate Change Minister Simon Watts says. New Zealand’s latest Greenhouse Gas Inventory (1990-2022) published today, shows gross emissions fell ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Earthquake-prone buildings review brought forward
    The Government is bringing the earthquake-prone building review forward, with work to start immediately, and extending the deadline for remediations by four years, Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk says. “Our Government is focused on rebuilding the economy. A key part of our plan is to cut red tape that ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Thailand and NZ to agree to Strategic Partnership
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and his Thai counterpart, Prime Minister Srettha Thavisin, have today agreed that New Zealand and the Kingdom of Thailand will upgrade the bilateral relationship to a Strategic Partnership by 2026. “New Zealand and Thailand have a lot to offer each other. We have a strong mutual desire to build ...
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  • Government consults on extending coastal permits for ports
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  • Inflation coming down, but more work to do
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  • School attendance restored as a priority in health advice
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  • Unnecessary bureaucracy cut in oceans sector
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  • Patterson promoting NZ’s wool sector at International Congress
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  • Removing red tape to help early learners thrive
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  • RMA changes to cut coal mining consent red tape
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  • McClay reaffirms strong NZ-China trade relationship
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  • Prime Minister Luxon acknowledges legacy of Singapore Prime Minister Lee
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon today paid tribute to Singapore’s outgoing Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong.   Meeting in Singapore today immediately before Prime Minister Lee announced he was stepping down, Prime Minister Luxon warmly acknowledged his counterpart’s almost twenty years as leader, and the enduring legacy he has left for Singapore and South East ...
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  • PMs Luxon and Lee deepen Singapore-NZ ties
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  • Antarctica New Zealand Board appointments
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  • Finance Minister travels to Washington DC
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  • Pet bonds a win/win for renters and landlords
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  • Long Tunnel for SH1 Wellington being considered
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  • New Zealand condemns Iranian strikes
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  • Huge interest in Government’s infrastructure plans
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  • Health Minister thanks outgoing Health New Zealand Chair
    Health Minister Dr Shane Reti has today thanked outgoing Health New Zealand – Te Whatu Ora Chair Dame Karen Poutasi for her service on the Board.   “Dame Karen tendered her resignation as Chair and as a member of the Board today,” says Dr Reti.  “I have asked her to ...
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  • Roads of National Significance planning underway
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  • Navigating an unstable global environment
    New Zealand is renewing its connections with a world facing urgent challenges by pursuing an active, energetic foreign policy, Foreign Minister Winston Peters says.   “Our country faces the most unstable global environment in decades,” Mr Peters says at the conclusion of two weeks of engagements in Egypt, Europe and the United States.    “We cannot afford to sit back in splendid ...
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  • NZ welcomes Australian Governor-General
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon has announced the Australian Governor-General, His Excellency General The Honourable David Hurley and his wife Her Excellency Mrs Linda Hurley, will make a State visit to New Zealand from Tuesday 16 April to Thursday 18 April. The visit reciprocates the State visit of former Governor-General Dame Patsy Reddy ...
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  • NZ and the US: an ever closer partnership
    New Zealand and the United States have recommitted to their strategic partnership in Washington DC today, pledging to work ever more closely together in support of shared values and interests, Foreign Minister Winston Peters says.    “The strategic environment that New Zealand and the United States face is considerably more ...
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  • Joint US and NZ declaration
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