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Parliamentary TV – should we shut it?

Written By: - Date published: 8:44 am, September 30th, 2019 - 51 comments
Categories: Dirty Politics, Gerry Brownlee, politicans, Politics, Simon Bridges - Tags: ,

Occasionally, this site puts up a video from parliament. Probably happens a few times per month at best.  Which since this site is one that is dedicated to politics in NZ indicates not a whole lot of interest. The number of readers of posts who click into those videos is a very small fraction of the post readers. So small that they barely register.

Outside of the video starved TV news micro-clips, I suspect that the few political sites around are probably one of the biggest users of  parliaments video outside of the politicians themselves. If only because the major media sites outside of TV don’t put them up virtually at all except as political advertising.

So are we, the public, getting value from it. Well yes. It stands as a record of the debate in parliament. But as far as I can tell – not that all that much. It is a marginal exercise at best.

It is useful to have to look up from dryness of Hansard and the even drier detail of the bills and law making that are the business of parliament and see what MPs are currently posturing like. 

So is it worth the costs, which are substantive. At best, and as a political aficionado,  I’d say that at best it is a toss-up.

But as soon as they start becoming feedstock for out of context, half arsed clickbait made by partisan dimwits, which is apparently what the National Party are making a unprincipled stand over – then their social cost goes up dramatically.

You only have to look at the US attack political social media advertising market in the US to see that. Such ‘fun’ masquerading under the cover of free speech  is simply the spreader of lying because of the short clipped editing and over messaging. Almost invariably the over message are at a total variance to the context of the original statements.

It used to be constrained by the cost of broadcast TV advertising in the US and the liability of the channels carrying such ads. But these days anyone with a dinky video editor can make them up and push them through facebook.

It isn’t something that our site has ever done, it used to be a favourite ploy of the paid-for-smearing site Whaleoil. And we have always had the capacity to make whatever we like from raw footage. Video editing is relatively simple, albeit tedious to do. But we made a conscious decision early on to not try to run material that didn’t have a clear and obvious personal opinion behind it – not to distort facts with implicit lying.

So, unlike Andrew Geddis, I simply can’t see any particular value of Parliamentary TV as a provider to content for attack clips. Especially if it appears there are none of safeguards and permission issues that every other provider of video has to be aware of. Ask any provider on TV, movies or documentaries about the legal constraints that they have and you will get an earful. In particular those related to the reuse of the images of people.

I simply can’t see any value in that use for the parliamentary feed, so if the National Party attempt to remove what safeguards there are on the feed, then I suspect that I and others will start playing around on avid or premiere pro with ‘humorous’ clips as a deterrence action. And we will explore the bottom end of the spectrum at  a personal level using the free and unencumbered footage from parliamentary TV. 

Interpersing images of pigs fucking and Gerry Brownlee speaking in the house. Or Simon Bridges talking up his contributions to raising bridges in Northland with the eventual result and the associated images of drooping failure. Or assisting Sarah Downie and Jamie-Lee Ross in their election campaigns by questioning their taste with the long soap opera glances across the house. These are easy to edit and message for me and any other juveniles. I’ll even help provide the online instructions about how to do it.

However I can’t see any particular benefit to our democracy in the MAD philosophy of simple deterrence of making such adverts descend immediately into the gutter. Given what Simon Bridges is advocating as free speech where the public pays for the feedstock and there are no constraints on its usage, we may as well just head there as fast as possible.

Or I could just start lobbying to kill the budget for parliamentary TV and remove the raw footage. I’m sure that despite the love that many politicians have for their own image, that they won’t mind. Otherwise I have some video that we cut…

But the simplest one would be to just retain some simple rules about usage. Which happen to look largely like the ones in place right now.

51 comments on “Parliamentary TV – should we shut it?”

  1. ianmac 1

    Brownlee argues that censorship depends on who is the censor. So who is the arbiter on what is fair/not fair reportage? Who decided that the Speaker should decide what is in and what is out?

    Anyway in the current ordered take-down which hasn't happened, where to next?

    • gsays 1.1

      "Anyway in the current ordered take-down which hasn't happened, where to next?"

      At the risk of sounding like a single issue enthusiast….

       

      Email/phone or visit your Nat MP and let them know you aren't happy with their actions.

    • lprent 1.2

      Or just ask for Parliamentary TV to be taken down.

      Effectively what the Nats claim that they are after is open slather on the images of the MPs from it.

      That isn't something that is allowed anywhere through the film, tv, or any video industry. You always require the permission through a payment or a waiver for the focus people either via the person or via the institution in almost all of the material you publish.

      In effect the National party is asking for that protection to be removed retrospectively from individuals and for parliament to not have a say in giving permission to authorise is. Plus they want taxpayers to foot the bill for footage to smear their opponents. Why should we pay for it?

      We don't really need the footage to be shot in the first place. It is mostly a vanity thing for MPs. It isn't a free speech issue. Not having the footage doesn't stop the Nats from saying what they want. It just stops them from misappropriating images of other people without permission.

      Just remove the budget for parliamentary TV and the issue goes away.

      • weka 1.2.1

        Lynn, can you please pop into the back end when you get a moment? ta.

      • mpledger 1.2.2

        Who owns the copyright to this media?  Copyright has pretty strict restrictions on what can be done with other peoples' published material.   Have National paid for the use of the material?   Have they got permission from the publisher?

        National appear to have absolutely no idea about the rules around copyright.   The Eminem fiasco, the budget hacking fiasco, the hacking of the Labour members database hasn't seemed to made any impression about their responsibilities around other people's data and art. 

    • Edit
      Fighting over what can be allowed to be used, and whether that is abused is another way of Parliament and our important political process being trivialised and our attention distracted from what the pollies are actually doing and saying about the essential, important, future things they need to inform themselves about and act on, plus the everyday mechanics of the polity, all of which we need to keep close to.   

      So get rid of the bloody tv – we were in error if we thought it would be of benefit.   Any benefits are outweighed by the disadvantages and the unintended consequences that have arisen.    It accentuates the posing and posturing of the time-wasters and malign white-anters in the Chamber and puts people off the idea of democracy and discussion, to be drawn to  a dictatorial but action-oriented government, which is a false, hopeful and simplistic alternative to replace democracy.   

      TV converts the Chamber of Parliament, into either a fun-palace or an equivalent to a what could be a computer game, or tv sitcom satire, and ultimately, a Chamber of Horrors.

    • lprent 1.4

      Who decided that the Speaker should decide what is in and what is out?

      Actually, that is easy to answer. Parliament decided that. The speaker is made that by the governor general at the behest of the house of representatives. ie usually by the majority of the house.

      I’d have to dig through the legislation to find the current enabling act, and the other one about their role.

      The speaker is responsible for enforcing the rules made by parliament for parliamentarians. They have a number of committees that look after their own rules. The privileges committee is pretty much the ‘court’ that teh speaker is subject to.

      The Geddis link in the post defines the current rules that Trevor Mallard is enforcing. Specifically that the National Party never sought nor gained permission from the people in the video for the use they made of their image.

      Not one of my stronger areas, the nebulous NZ constitution.

      I’d say to just toss the parliamentary broadcasts. If the National MPs can’t be trusted to adhere to their own rules and aren’t prepared to wait for the privileges committee, then turn off parliamentary TV. No different to what you’d do to any other child demanding their TV.

      • xanthe 1.4.1

        Well the Speaker will have to do something now!

        either shut down broadcasts  or

        the proper thing at this point would give each MP who has "defied" the ban a choice of apologize and remove the content or leave the chamber until they do.

        this could get interesting.

         

         

        • McFlock 1.4.1.1

          If all the tories get thrown out of the House, would that mean the government could pass whatever it wants without votes or extended debates against it?

          nice thought

      • Craig H 1.4.2

        Constitution Act 1986 has a section devoted to the election of the Speaker. 

        • lprent 1.4.2.1

          Yeah, that one I did know
          Doesn't say much about the role.

          12 Election of Speaker
          The House of Representatives shall, at its first meeting after any general election of its members, and immediately on its first meeting after any vacancy occurs in the office of Speaker, choose one of its members as its Speaker, and every such choice shall be effective on being confirmed by the Governor-General.

          13 Speaker to continue in office notwithstanding dissolution or expiration of Parliament
          A person who is in office as Speaker immediately before the dissolution or expiration of Parliament shall, notwithstanding that dissolution or expiration, continue in office until the close of polling day at the next general election unless that person sooner vacates office as Speaker.

    • Peter 1.5

      The Speaker might be like an umpire or referee in sport. He/she enforces the rules decided upon by others.

      Jerry Brownlee and Co. give Mallard some rules to enforce which Mallard duly does.  Brownlee throws a tantrum.

      What's the issue? The issue isn't Parliamentary TV or Mallard or political propaganda. It's the childish behaviour of the sad, sour member for Ilam and the moronic mob he appeals to.

  2. ianmac 2

    Maybe drop the Tv all together but how would Bridges get exposure for his histrionics? How sad.

    Of course for many, TV Parliament is the only way one can get some idea of who each MP is. Our own MP for instance sits smirking behind the Minister. Creepy.

    • lprent 2.1

      … Parliament is the only way one can get some idea of who each MP is.

      Well there are the older ways. Radio broadcasts (online I think), Hansard (online), turn up at local meetings, go to party selection meetings to kick out list MPs and local MPs. For local MPs, go to the electorate office, and of course the old favourite – find someone else who is more accessible in another party and vote them in.

      The problem is that I really don’t think that parliamentary TV offers much more. The smirk really doesn’t tell you much except that they are a fool who can twist their face on demand. Since that is a required skill for all politicians and other sales people like 2nd hand car sellers – I don’t think it adds much.

    • Janet 2.2

      I can,t afford travel to watch parliament so I appreciate being able to see it on TV. I just wish I had time to watch it more. It certainly widens one view of the individuals we have elected to rule our country.

      • aj 2.2.1

        I agree Janet. We cannot rely on accurate reporting in any medium anymore. It strengthens democracy that voters can watch it in action. Body language and facial expression is an important addition to spoken word. Fake news is a real threat to democracy and political parties should not be able manipulate videos to their own ends. Nothing is going to prevent proxies from doing this but direct manipulation by political parties should be banned. I can't see much wrong with the current rules and it will be interesting to see how the speaker handles this.

  3. weka 3

    Times I've found it useful have been watching maiden speeches, especially later when I want to look back and see what an MP was like in the past.

    There have been some key moments where having the video was of public importance eg when Labour and Green women MPs were thrown out of the house for objecting to John Key's comments about the opposition supporting rapists. I wanted to see that directly without it being filtered through MSM.

    There's value in having video (or audio) because you can get nuance from listening that is missing from the Hansard transcript. I guess we could have audio instead, but I assume National would just abuse that.

    Also, fuck National if we lost this because they're anti-social and unethical and don't give a shit about fairness. While I can see the temptation of taking this away from them, I'd rather parliament stood up to them now and said enough.  I had hoped the Speaker might do that but I see he wants to get rid of the standing order altogether.
     

  4. Nice touch from RNZ this morning…edited their interview with Brownlee down to a collection of "Um's" and "ers" for their soundbite advertisement.

    I like to think he choked on his full english brecky when he heard that nice bit of out of context editing…

     

  5. McFlock 5

    Well, it provides fodder for the msm as well – for better or worse. Maybe playing to the cameras isn't as good governance as making arguments of substance.

    Which could also be an argument against televising select committees.

    But there are other functions of government that can be televised without too much problem, to fill in the down-time of ptv. Conferences, ceremonies, youth parliaments, working groups, thinkpieces on governance and civics. A bit like cspan, being broader than just the oratory in the house.

     

     

  6. Climaction 6

    So we need publicly funded free to air broadcasting covering politics so that the public are informed, as long as it can’t be used or manipulated against us?

  7. Formerly Ross 7

    I don’t see a problem with filming Parliament. If filming were cancelled, splicing and dicing could still occur. MPs appear on tv now and again, and of course they are interviewed for radio. Their comments could be taken out of context. So, not filming Parliament probably won’t remove this issue although it would reduce the amount of material available to be used.

    • Dukeofurl 7.1

      Thats missing the main point – if politicians appear on  on any other medium , then to re use that material requires the consent of the broadcaster and a release from the person appearing. I think  passing on to third parties wouldnt be within the current  system either

  8. Drowsy M. Kram 8

    I would prefer that live broadcasting of NZ parliamentary sessions be retained – ending these broadcasts would play into the National party's hands/plans, imho.

    "Below is a list of [90] countries that have made live parliament sessions available to the citizens via television, radio and web-streaming. (Some unlisted countries might have TV stations that broadcast its sessions but unable to verify because their websites are down.)"
    https://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2018/01/23/how-many-countries-broadcast-their-parliamentary-assembly-sessions-live/

    The NZ link is at #91 on that list, but four listed countries apparently provide audio-only services, so we’re not quite at the end.

    "No matter the venue, what is critical is that parliaments see the broadcast of its work as a positive step in allowing a more open relationship between the institution and the citizens they represent."
    https://agora-parl.org/resources/aoe/broadcasting-parliament

  9. Sacha 9

    National's ethical vacuum will not be fixed by withdrawing some fodder.

  10. mac1 10

    Mr reading of this is an opposition who agreed one set of rules whilst in power and are now   out of power, intolerant of that fact, and very short of ammunition to fire at the government.

    The rules do not suit them in opposition, as they want to continue their well-funded dirty tricks campaigns.

    A cartoon shows that the opposition had finally found an an issue to protest about. Not lethal arms, not global warming, not hate speech, but "Freedom for Attack Ads" .

    Says it all. An opposition bereft of everything but money.

  11. soddenleaf 11

    I think the first poster hit the nail on the head, Brownlee. 

    You're going into the election, you can do away with all tv parliament censorship… …or lineup a dirty politics emotional attack line for yourself should you lose the election. So Bridges, Brownlee, argue FOR the censorship they now rail against.

    Brownlee wants to be known as something other than minister for earthquake recovery in chch. you know where the minister oversaw homeowners being cut and pasted out of hundreds if thousands alledgely, and not given current court decisions.

    So national lie the issue onto the legislation in govt, to argue for putting lies into others mouths, all to grab and move the agenda along, covering both arderns overseas trip and Changing the narrative around Brown Lee who oversaw the cutting and pasting of thousands of insurance holders…

     

    Any free press would want his resignation. freedom fighter for free speach… wtf. These people wate our money, fighting stuff they made up, to cover their own losses of money to us, and make themselves look like the good guys.

     

    Sack Brownlee

  12. mary_a 12

    I am deaf, so being able to assess events through the body/face language of the politicians on TV for me and many others with the same disability is very important. Parliamentary TV is vital to being able to keep up with that's going on in Parliament without any distortion by msm.

    Having the ability to face/lip read not only the MP up on their feet holding the floor, but also the "silent under the breath" comments made by other MPs sitting in the House, can be just as interesting and revealing, as the words of the MP speaking! Believe me I have picked up on a few WOW moments in this regard!! MPs need to be more vigilant when muttering to themselves or near MPs! 

     

  13. Stuart Munro. 13

    I don't see any particular reason Mallard should accommodate the Gnat abuse. He should name them and stop their pay till they take the offending material down. Of course they can try to change the rules through the standing orders committee, but they won't get a majority to do so anytime soon. So let them obey the rules – it would be a refreshing change for everyone.

    • lprent 13.1

      I am pretty sure that the speaker doesn't have that power to cut their pay. Somehow I don't think that the crown would have delegated that power to the speaker.

      Otherwise our current Mr Speaker would have been pretty poor many times in the past.

      • Craig H 13.1.1

        The Speaker can name MPs which effectively suspends them without pay but it's a controversial measure. 

        • Jum 13.1.1.1

          FFS Let's do this!

          Why on earth should taxpayers pay for dirty politics?

          Let’s remind all our mps who owns them.

      • Stuart Munro. 13.1.2

        There is a convention that speakers are not to be deliberately disrespected, as National are doing on this occasion, without so much as the ghost of a sniff of public interest. Trevor can give them a further notice period in the interests of not being unnecessarily punitive, but should not tolerate defiance for any great length of time, given who made this rule.

  14. Ken 14

    I think it's our right to see what goes on in Parliament – even if it is mostly boring AF.

    • lprent 14.1

      Question is if it is right for National to take material provided for the purpose you are describing and without paying or getting permission to do so, to commit theft by using it for a completely different purpose? Especially when National and the two shadow ministers concerned were directly responsible for putting in the current rules to prevent exactly this. The hypocrisy is extreme.

      Incidentally I'm sure that eminem and coldplay would have things to say about National's towards intellectual thievery and copyright fraud. I can’t see a copyright notice around, which means by default there is a copyright on the material.

      Personally I don’t see much value in the TV broadcasts. There have been a few valid reasons listed above. Maybe enough to justify the millions (probably tens) of dollars required to fund this each year.

      • Ken 14.1.1

        Of course the Nats have no right to edit the footage to suit their dastardly agenda, but we should all have the right to watch what goes on in our parliament if we wish to do so.

  15. Jum 15

    I want to watch parliament – small p because nats are wankers but seem to control the media.

    If they show their lies on their own website, whatever… If they show their manufactured lies on any other site, or through mainstream media, there should be instant prosecution in the interests of fair and objective media. If Labour wants to take the moral highground, no copying.

    Parliament is important to me to show the faces and the body language of the people that make our laws or try to prevent them working on our behalf. It keeps me informed of current bills, who is talking against them. I hope Labour re-attached the impact statements to the bills – nats ‘disappeared’ them between 2008 and 2017 so nobody knew the damage they were doing. I particularly like laughing at the antics of judith collins; she’s such a jerk telling our youth their ‘little’ protest wouldn’t matter. I hope somebody advertises that near and wide. It was on the programme Sunday. What were the protest numbers again? HUGE and GENUINE. Unlike little judith collins.

  16. Radio NZ programme "The House" lays out the issues clearly:

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/the-house/audio/2018715335/irony-and-advertising-the-parliament-video-ban 

    The current kerfuffle is over the rules about using the official TV footage of Parliament (Standing Orders Appendix D, part B 1 & 2). In full here is the section: […]

    The relevant bits are B1:2.1, B1:3 and B2. 

    In short, you can't use Parliament TV (PTV) footage of MPs in advertising without their permission. Also, you can't edit it so that it's not fair and accurate. Either is potentially a contempt of Parliament (which is very serious).

    See also: https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/the-house/audio/2018715520/punishing-contempt-what-could-happen-to-simon-bridges

    Technically, Parliament has the power to imprison Bridges for contempt. Unfortunately, the actual punishment will be much milder

  17. New view 17

    The amusing thing to me is that most of you here can’t see any value in the REAL stupidity of Parliamentary discussion but are happy to use any news article written by whatever self proclaimed expert from countless sources that may or may not be correct to backup your points of view on any subject. The comments here are chocked with backup articles which often are taken for fact when at best are the result of some study or article that people are happy to adopt when a few years down the track the opposite point of view is in fashion. I don’t watch parliament because it’s pathetic but it is real. I-don’t click on too many backup articles here because for everyone you look at there will be one with an opposing view. Who knows what is correct but we’ll use what we think proves our point. I don’t imagine I have many like minded spirits here but I don’t comment here to win a popularity poll. I don’t mean to belittle any commenters here it’s just an observation and my opinion. 

  18. peterlepaysan 18

    It is long overdue that Bridges grew up, and Brownlee.

    Both know that it was National that set rules about use of parliamentary television.

    Apparently it gives them right to flout them: a la Brownlee and airport security doors.

    The arrogant, mindless self entitlement is breath taking.

  19. peterlepaysan 19

    Parliamentary television should we shut it?

    Why not?

    Who watches it?

    Who is deprived?

     

  20. peterlepaysan 20

    Yes, OK.  I can easily agree that parliamentary TV should stay.

    I just wish politicians stop trying to manipulate it.  WE, the electorate, pay for it and own it.  Politicians can keep their grubby paws off my/ our property.

    Politicians are our servants and are required to respect our ownership rights.

    Politicians only have the rights we give them, not the ones they want/steal.

    • Yeah, yeah.   All true.   So wotcha gonna do to get better outcomes than the present?  Looking at them one thinks that they have a nerve to criticise teachers for not doing better with the mixed bag of children they get before them.    These are adults half of which would be hanging round the principals door if they were at school.    Old-time teachers would feel an itch in their hands to reach for the cane looking at these regular recalcitrants in Parliament.

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  • Lying about a failed war
    Since invading in 2001, the US has consistently claimed that their war in Afghanistan has been going well, even when it continued year after year after year. Of course, they were lying, and thanks to the Washington Post and the US Freedom of Information Act, we get to see just ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Artificial Intelligence and You
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    SciBlogsBy Robert Hickson
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  • Statistical manipulation to get publishable results
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    3 days ago
  • More lies on the Twitter (Dan Hodges edition)
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    3 days ago
  • LabourActivistPunchedMattHancock’sSPADGate
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    3 days ago
  • France’s anti-Zionism is anti-liberté
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    RedlineBy Daphna
    3 days ago
  • Another bus lockout
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Climate Change: Showing us how its done
    The government has been congratulating itself over the passage of the Zero Carbon Act, which sets out long-term emissions targets. But those targets are insufficient. Meanwhile, Denmark is showing us how its done:Denmark’s parliament adopted a new climate law on Friday, committing to reach 70% below its 1990 emissions in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • New Fisk
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Public sector dysfunction should not be allowed to undermine freedom of information
    Another day, another piece of legislation with a secrecy clause. This time its the innocuous-seeming Mental Health and Wellbeing Commission Bill, which (after establishing a new body and making it subject to the OIA in three different ways) includes the rapidly-becoming-standard clauses enabling it to request information from other public ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • “This is England, this knife of Sheffield steel…”
    The state of the United Kingdom is fractured, torn up, shredded. The Empire is gone, it died a long time ago. And yet, the country is still tracking with a lead in favour of the ones who play to the ingrained, class-bound division for political gain. It is a disgrace ...
    exhALANtBy exhalantblog
    5 days ago
  • CORSIA, coming soon to an airport near you
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    SciBlogsBy Robert McLachlan
    5 days ago
  • Cloaking hate speech and fake news in the right to free expression.
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    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    5 days ago
  • The Physics (and Economics, and Politics) of Wheelchairs on Planes
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    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    6 days ago
  • To Advance Civil Rights, Oppose Transgender Extremism
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    RedlineBy Daphna
    6 days ago
  • Faafoi should be fired
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Adrian Orr – The Reserve Bank’s Revolutionary Governor?
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    7 days ago
  • Driving Us Up The Poll.
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    7 days ago
  • Jordan Williams, Colin Craig podcast series announced
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    The PaepaeBy Peter Aranyi
    1 week ago
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    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    1 week ago
  • Scientific integrity requires critical investigation – not blind acceptance
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    1 week ago
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • More secrecy
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Unlikely online bully, Liam Hehir
    Check. Check. One, two, three, four. Is this thing ON? Hello readers, I logged in last night (yeah, it’s been a while) to mark THE END of the landmark legal case, Jordan Williams v Colin Craig, which (gulp) reached The Supreme Court, in which New Zealand’s most-defamed man was suing the politician he ...
    The PaepaeBy Peter Aranyi
    1 week ago
  • The Birth Of Israel: Wrong At The Right Time.
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    1 week ago
  • Hard News: Public Address Word of the Year 2019: Korero phase
    In an unreliable, strange and confusing world, Public Address is proud to present a measure of comfort and stability by annually asking everyone what words or phrases sum up the year that's been – and then giving some of them consumer goods as prizes for being clever or simply lucky.Well, ...
    1 week ago
  • Generalist to specialist
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    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    1 week ago
  • A “coincidence”
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Member’s Day
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Worse than I thought
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • The cannabis bill and the referendum
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Hard News: The Cannabis Legalisation and Control Bill: pretty good so far
    As you're probably aware, the draft bill outlining the proposed legal cannabis regime to be put to a referendum late next year was published yesterday, and has already attracted a flurry of comment. It's notable that a good deal of the comment is about proposals that aren't actually new.A minimum ...
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: Alignment
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • How climate change will affect food production and security
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    1 week ago
  • More bad faith
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Banning foreign money from our elections
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Reforming the Education Acts
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Bite-sized learning
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    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
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  • “Not The Labour Party We Once Knew.”
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    1 week ago
  • Marxist versus liberal methodology on transgender ideology/identity politics
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    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Book review: The Farm by Joanne Ramos
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    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Loosening the purse strings
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Climate Change: How to get there
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • anti-vaxxers in a measles epidemic: so many ways to be untruthful
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    SciBlogsBy Alison Campbell
    2 weeks ago
  • Is Youth Vaping a Problem in New Zealand?
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    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    2 weeks ago
  • In pursuit of “Freedom and Democracy”: Forever Wars in “America’s backyard”.
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    exhALANtBy exhalantblog
    2 weeks ago
  • November ’19 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
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    2 weeks ago
  • Whodunnit? Finding the mystery 1080 testing lab
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    SciBlogsBy Grant Jacobs
    2 weeks ago
  • Authoritarian Friends, Democratic Enemies.
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    2 weeks ago
  • Boris Johnson Goes Down
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    2 weeks ago
  • Interesting
    Within quick succession, Countdown maths wizard and twitterer Rachel Riley, alleged comedian David Baddiel and prominent lawyer Andrew Julius have all expressed very similar opinions / ideas:
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    2 weeks ago
  • Damn the Polls
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    2 weeks ago
  • Climate Change: Europe declares an emergency
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • A Bi-Partisan Commitment To X-ing “P”.
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    2 weeks ago
  • Advice about measles: when ignorance is definitely not a virtue
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    SciBlogsBy Alison Campbell
    2 weeks ago

  • Government takes bite out of loan sharks
    The days of vulnerable consumers falling victim to loan sharks, truck shops and other predatory lenders are numbered, following the Credit Contracts Legislation Amendment Bill passing its third reading tonight. “Too many Kiwis are being given loans that are unaffordable and unsuitable, trapping them in debt and leaving their families ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    9 hours ago
  • New Zealand safer as Terrorism Suppression (Control Orders Bill) becomes law
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    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    10 hours ago
  • Foreign Minister and Pacific Peoples Minister to visit Samoa
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    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    10 hours ago
  • New Pastoral Care Code will support tertiary students in 2020
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    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    11 hours ago
  • New infrastructure funding tool to build housing developments faster
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    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    13 hours ago
  • Vision to unite the primary sector launched today
    Agriculture Minister Damien O’Connor has welcomed the release of a bold new vision for the country’s vital food and fibre sector. “I’m delighted that New Zealand’s major farmer and grower organisations are today supporting the Primary Sector Council’s vision – Fit for a Better World,” he said. “The international consumers ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    14 hours ago
  • NZ congratulates PNG and Autonomous Bougainville Government on referendum
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    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    15 hours ago
  • Next steps for Upper North Island logistics
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    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    16 hours ago
  • Surgical mesh restorative justice report received
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    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    16 hours ago
  • The Water Services Regulator Bill – Taumata Arowai a milestone for drinking water safety
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    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    18 hours ago
  • Speech to new direction for criminal justice reform announcement
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    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    18 hours ago
  • New direction for criminal justice reform
    The Government is looking to turn around the long-term challenges of criminal justice by taking a new approach to break the cycle of offending to ensure there are fewer victims of crime. Justice Minister Andrew Little released two reports today, Turuki! Turuki! from Te Uepū Hāpai I te Ora, and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    18 hours ago
  • New law sets up $300m Venture Capital Fund
    New Zealand firms expanding beyond the start-up phase are set for more support after today’s passage of the Venture Capital Fund Bill, Associate Finance Minister David Parker said. The Bill, which establishes a $300 million Venture Capital Fund, puts in place a key initiative of the Wellbeing Budget’s economic package. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • New Zealand’s National Statement to COP25
    E ngā mana, e ngā reo, e ngā iwi, e ngā rau rangatira mā. Tēnā koutou, tēnā koutou, tēnā koutou katoa. Señora Presidenta, Excellencies, Delegates. International action A common thread that runs through the Paris Agreement is the commitment we have made to each other to do what we can to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • $12 billion in extra infrastructure investment
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    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Strong economy, careful spending gives $12bn of surpluses
    The Government is forecast to run $12 billion worth of surpluses across the four years to 2023/24 as the economy continues to grow. The surpluses will help fund day-to-day capital requirements each year. These include fixing leaky hospitals, building new classrooms to cover population growth and take pressure off class ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Priorities for 2020 Wellbeing Budget outlined
    Budget 2020 will continue the Coalition Government’s focus on tackling the long-term challenges facing New Zealand while also investing to future-proof the economy. When the Government took office in 2017 it was left with crumbling infrastructure, severe underinvestment in public services, degraded rivers and lakes, a housing crisis and rising ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Minister welcomes data-rich coastline mapping tool
    The Minister responsible for the Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Act 2011 (te Takutai Moana Act 2011), Andrew Little has welcomed the launch of an online geospatial tool that provides data-rich, dynamic coastline maps that will significantly boost research and evidence-gathering under the Act. Te Kete Kōrero a Te ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Chief Victims Advisor reappointed for a further two years
    The Chief Victims Advisor to Government Dr Kim McGregor, QSO, has been reappointed in her role for a further two years. Dr McGregor has held the role since it was established in November 2015. She provides independent advice to government on how to improve the criminal justice system for victims. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • New Zealand tsunami monitoring and detection system to be established
    Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters and Civil Defence Minister Peeni Henare have today announced the deployment of a network of DART (Deep-ocean Assessment and Reporting of Tsunami) buoys. “New Zealand and the Pacific region are particularly vulnerable to natural disasters. It is vital we have adequate warning systems in place,” ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • DART Buoys Announcement
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    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Final steps for racing industry reform
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    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Funding to promote New Zealand Sign Language initiatives
    Minister for Disability Issues, Carmel Sepuloni, is pleased to announce that $291,321 is to be awarded to national and local community initiatives to maintain and promote the use of New Zealand Sign Language (NZSL). “New Zealand is one of the few countries  in the world where Sign Language is an ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • How New Zealand defines and recognises veterans
    Minister for Veterans Ron Mark has announced today the Coalition Government’s initial response to work completed by the independent statutory body, the Veterans’ Advisory Board. “When Professor Ron Paterson completed his review of the Veterans’ Support Act in 2018, he made a number of recommendations, including one which I referred ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Government to fund lion’s share of Ohakea water scheme
    The Government will fund the bulk of the cost of a rural water supply for the Ohakea community affected by PFAS contamination, Environment Minister David Parker announced today at a meeting of local residents. This new water scheme will provide a reliable and clean source of drinking water to the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Prime Minister statement on White Island eruption
    I have had the opportunity to be briefed on the details of the volcanic eruption of Whakaari/White Island, off the coast of Whakatane in the Bay of Plenty.  The eruption happened at 2.11pm today.  It continues to be an evolving situation.  We know that there were a number of tourists ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Govt funds $100k for weather-hit communities
    Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and Minister of Civil Defence Peeni Henare have today confirmed initial Government support of $100,000 for communities affected by the severe weather that swept across the South Island and lower North Island over the weekend. The contribution will be made to Mayoral relief funds across the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Death of NZ High Commissioner to Cook Islands
    New Zealand's High Commissioner to the Cook Islands, Tessa Temata, died in Palmerston North over the weekend, Foreign Minister Winston Peters said today. Ms Temata, 52, had recently returned to New Zealand for medical treatment. "On behalf of the Government and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade, we extend ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
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