Polity: Key deluded on housing progress

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1. Tom Gould 1

   28 January 2015 at 1:32 pm

   Key knows precisely what he is doing, and so do his fat-cat backers and cronies. More ‘trickle up’ anyone?
2. Sacha 2

   28 January 2015 at 1:32 pm

   Govt’s biggest maths problem seems they’re getting rid of 8000 state houses but only adding 3000 more NGO rent subsidies. How does that work?
   • One Anonymous Bloke 2.1

     28 January 2015 at 1:39 pm

     It doesn’t. The policy has finally caught up with the hate-speech.
   • tracey 2.2

     28 January 2015 at 2:21 pm

     and a current wait-list of 5000
     • Sacha 2.2.1

       28 January 2015 at 2:29 pm

       with 3000 existing tenants to be ‘transitioned to independence’.
3. BLiP 3

   28 January 2015 at 1:58 pm

   . . . Is he deluded, or is he being deliberately misleading? . . .

   Both. John Key is deluded by his ideology AND is being deliberately misleading. Its how he rolls.
   • Peter 3.1

     28 January 2015 at 2:53 pm

     Yes, and he will always present a story that he knows the majority will accept. You can run any hidden agenda you like if you do enough to keep the majority onside. Key and his backers are not deluded, rather they are genius! Facts and the truth are irrelevant to these guys!
   • thechangeling 3.2

     28 January 2015 at 3:25 pm

     I’m assuming Crosby Textor wrote his speech in its’ entirety.
     • les 3.2.1

       28 January 2015 at 10:14 pm

       absolutely…they must be getting paid some…but they’re good.
       • adam 3.2.1.1

         29 January 2015 at 1:57 am

         Propaganda is what propaganda is. I say they are not that good. This is a speech which reeks of desperation, and a desperation, did I mention desperation. This style, whilst very productive as a one off – fails when repeated too often. We now have seen this style of speech from Key often. I for one was surprised, as now more are seeing this propaganda for what it is, propaganda.
4. tracey 4

   28 January 2015 at 2:19 pm

   “Residential construction increased 21 per cent last year and more than 24,000 building consents were issued – the highest number since 2008.”

   He would have access to the value of the work included in those consents (which can be indicatve of the selling price upon completion – but need to be careful with this one cos I think fees are based on the value of the work being done so it is sometimes written down – vto or someone else will know that better than me)

   He would have access to the areas where those consents are issued which can give an indication of resale price

   He would have access to how many of those consents are for new properties and how many are for work requiring a consent for an existing property

   He would have access to how many consents have been issued to developers (because most developers get a streamlined process compared to owner-consenters)

   Mind you, so do the journalists who would have known in general terms that both leaders would speak to affordability in auckland today and could have therefore deconstructed any claims each made.
5. Foreign waka 5

   28 January 2015 at 3:09 pm

   With the increase in private ownership of governmental social responsibility the only outcome will be slums. A Government that washes its hands of the poor, it stands to reason that they will be blaming the private owners and those in turn will point the finger at funding shortfalls towards the government.
   We have already proof with the housing of the elderly and the minimum wage paid to the people suppose to look after them. Same pattern, different group of people in need.
   Its all for the profit and this means that the government will allocate a budget sum that most likely will not cover the need. Lets see what will be on the cards in 3 -5 years time. I wish politicians could be held accountable for undue suffering inflicted on the poor.
   • tracey 5.1

     28 January 2015 at 3:16 pm

     private run (instead of public run), while it works is a great run and working is open to interpretation, any problems they liquidate or look to government to bail them out… or just walk away after years of taking their profit and then when it gets too hard…

     There is a reason NGO’s are being looked to, cos private enterprise sees no profit in affordable housing.
     • ghostwhowalksnz 5.1.1

       28 January 2015 at 3:32 pm

       I think we can look at the process used for aged care- not for profit at first then private profit makers come in
6. b waghorn 6

   28 January 2015 at 3:32 pm

   If developers passed on the savings from the reduced costs of the RMA (yeah right) how long would it take for the house price inflation to gobble it up any way.
   • ghostwhowalksnz 6.1

     28 January 2015 at 3:34 pm

     The RMA changes so far are mainly about big box retailers and high intensity farming -dairying getting a free ride
   • Murray Rawshark 6.2

     29 January 2015 at 2:14 am

     If the saving is $10k and we know some prices go up by $200k a week, about 16 days. For a house that goes up $100k a year, a month.
     • Murray Rawshark 6.2.1

       29 January 2015 at 6:11 pm

       Oops. That should have been $200k a year. If anyone read my comments, I’d look stupid.
       • lprent 6.2.1.1

         29 January 2015 at 6:49 pm

         I read them…
         • Murray Rawshark 6.2.1.1.1

           29 January 2015 at 7:59 pm

           I know. You make your iron hand visible every now and then.
           • lprent 6.2.1.1.1.1

             30 January 2015 at 12:05 am

             Hah! You are meant to look at the tattered velvet…
       • One Anonymous Bloke 6.2.1.2

         29 January 2015 at 8:10 pm

         All humans are stupid. Get over it 🙂
7. Neil 7

   28 January 2015 at 3:55 pm

   Keys speech should’ve been titled “How I’m going to pull the ladder up behind me, so nobody else can get the help I had.”
8. Macro 8

   28 January 2015 at 5:25 pm

   No he’s not deluded. Just, as always, deliberately misleading.
   But don’t worry folks – he and his mates are making a killing!
   Pity that it’s a killing made at the expense of the poor – but then they deserve it.
   They could be like Key (couldn’t they??)
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfgSEwjAeno
   ok its USA but were getting there!
   • Paul 8.1

     28 January 2015 at 7:26 pm

     Yes he and the media are being misleading.
     This is part of the plan.
     More for the super wealthy and less for everyone else.
   • Paul 8.2

     28 January 2015 at 7:26 pm

     Yes he and the media are being misleading.
     This is part of the plan.
     More for the super wealthy and less for everyone else.
9. linda 9

   28 January 2015 at 7:19 pm

   house prices have already gone past the point of no return and no amount of policy tweak is going to fix the situation indebtedness has gone past the point of no return with the housing market new Zealand looks a bleak place for gen x and y. the cure will be a reset or major correction sad part all of new Zealand montages are recourse mortgages
   unlike the us most are none recourse mortgages.
10. Lloyd 10

    28 January 2015 at 9:56 pm

    I am awaiting further logical announcements from the donkey such as:

    “Air New Zealand will sell one-third of its planes so it can carry more passengers”

    “Spark will pull up half of its fibre-optic cabling so that it can carry more internet traffic”

    “The rail network will be shut down completely so that it can carry more freight”

    and

    “Half the government fleet of BMW limousines will be sold so they can concentrate on carrying Gerry Brownlee around”

    I am sure at least one-third of the electorate will believe these are completely logical if the donkey says them.

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