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Public holiday on All Whites win?

Written By: - Date published: 12:28 am, June 24th, 2010 - 27 comments
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The All Whites series of draws has gripped the country’s imagination in a way that even the All Blacks’ demolition raid in Ireland and Wales can’t match. A win (and conceivably a draw if I read the pool numbers right) in the game against Paraguay would put us through to the final 16 for the first time ever.

According the the Dompost (not online) John Key asked his staff if he could stay on after the Italy match to watch the boys take on Paraguay but his staff said no (a little odd, that whole story). Asked if a win against Paraguay should warrant a public holiday, Key replied “Damn fine idea. I want the country to enjoy this. They’ll be dancing all over the place”. Fair enough, too, since he wanted his own holiday extended.

Well, Trevor Mallard has taken up the cause. Tomorrow, he will ask Parliament’s permission for it to debate a Bill that will create a one-off public holiday on Friday if the All Whites win.

The Stuff poll shows 66% support for the idea. I know I’d like the day off to recover 😀

It seems the Labour caucus is keen to back Mallard’s Bill:

Now, it’s just up to National.. and the All Whites.


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27 comments on “Public holiday on All Whites win?”

  1. seth 1

    Got a link for this supposed quote from Key? I saw the interview, and he said it would be a great idea, but wouldn’t be worth it as he wouldn’t be in the country to enjoy it.

    Sounds like someone is making up rubbish

    • Marty G 1.1

      seth. can you see the blue text with the word that says ‘replied’. That’s called a hyperlink.

      and isn’t your version kind of dickish? He would support it but doesn’t because he won’t be here? Man, he would have to be a cock to say that. What’s your source?

  2. Gosman 2

    How would this work exactly? The All Whites play their game in the early hours of Friday morning. The Bill will have to be passed before it is finished and means people don”t really have much time to plan for it. Perhaps it would be better to schedule any public holiday to a later date.

    That stated this is a little bit silly as we are only talking about getting through the first round of a sporting competition, (admittedly a quite prestigous one). Doing this would raise all sorts of problems not the least being what would happen if the team actually kept winning?

    • Marty G 2.1

      It’s passed before the game and is conditional. Other countries have done it. Pretty simple.

      • Lanthanide 2.1.1

        What, so everyone turns up to work on Friday and their benevolent employers tell them to go home? Some people stay home because they hear on the radio that it’s a holiday, but their employers *need* them at work, so have to ring everyone up and get them to come in?

        Seriously, put the holiday on Monday so everyone knows about it before hand. Also I suspect many businesses would be blind-sided by it, having not accounted for it in their budgets for staff payment (time and a half + day in lieu if they stay open) or in their production timelines etc. So better yet, have it for next Friday, or even the Monday after that. Never mind all of the people who are taking annual leave for whatever day it ends up being now having to be refunded for that, creating more work for accountants/payroll.

        Basically this is an incredibly stupid idea to have a holiday at such short notice.

        captcha: events

  3. mark 3

    If the all Whites win on Friday , then there is several hours only for food manufacturers to plan the destruction of their products that cant be delivered, sick and injured people to get well , people with empty larders to stock up ,fill empty fuel tanks etc .

    not to mention the businesses on the brink , having an extra day to plan how to tell their staff that not turning up at late notice , failing to deliver the urgent export order, means they are out of work on Monday
    Never mind , Trevor got his cynical piece of publicity , perhaps he can support his out of work colleagues with his ex ministerial credit card.

    A poorly thought out bill , that trivialises parliamentary law making as a means to get on the front page of the media.
    Mallard should be ashamed of himself

  4. tsmithfield 4

    Don’t get your hopes up too high for a holiday. Paraguay outclass us in every respect by a considerable margin. Plus this is a must win game for them as well. Personally I think Paraguay will give us an absolute rogering.

    Then again, I said that about our game against Italy as well and nearly fell over when I got up to see the score. So, my head tells me we are going to get thrashed. But my heart is hoping for the impossible. Who knows.

    • felix 4.1

      Probably best to find out the score before getting up if possible to avoid further risk of falls.

  5. Descendant Of Smith 5

    I’m all for supporting teams that win and all for public holidays for workers – but hell this is a minority sport in this country and having a public holiday for something like this makes us a seem more like a tinpot dictatorship than anything else.

    I hope they do get through to the next round and if they do good on em but what our world ranking may go from something like 78 to 60 – give us a break.

    We’d be celebrating mediocrity wouldn’t we.

    • Zorr 5.1

      Celebrating success on the world stage in one of the most watched competitions isn’t celebrating mediocrity. Celebrating mediocrity would be if Bronagh played seocial soccer and Key announced a public holiday based on the fact that her team didn’t lose for the first time in 5 years.

    • felix 5.2

      DoS, my feelings about all this are pretty much what the sprout said below, but what do you mean by “minority sport”?

      20 years ago perhaps.

      • Descendant Of Smith 5.2.1

        I’m pleased the All Whites are doing well but it is all relative.

        New Zealand has few adult football players and are clearly unable to capitalise on the larger number of players at school level – rugby easily dominates this and golf for instance exceeds the numbers in rugby. Touch rugby exceeds the number of adult football players and generally we would consider touch rugby as a minority sport..

        At a school level I believe numbers are relatively equal but clearly as the age rises soccer player numbers reduce significantly.

        Performance wise we are likely to see an occasional collection of good players and exposure to Aussie has certainly helped. The move by the Phoenix to Wellington has resulted in an increased support base but a lot of this is driven by the same casual support the Warriors get – it’s NZ taking on Aussie not the Phoenix or Warriors taking on Aussie.

        I and lots of others would have no interest in the Phoenix at all if it wasn’t for this aspect.

        Performance wise we hardly rank in the top echelon, we have few professional players and so on. There’s not too many countries lining up with a strong desire to beat the All Whites. Our playing style against top teams is to shut down if we get ahead – effective in getting a draw – not effective in winning.

        Minority in terms of adult playing, fan base, revenue gathering, ranking, confidence and results.

        I guess there is a point at which numbers are sufficient to move from being a minority sport to not and maybe football has reached that point – I’m not convinced though.

        I certainly rate the Maori win last night against England as much more entertaining and exciting and memorable.

        • felix 5.2.1.1

          Touch rugby exceeds the number of adult football players and generally we would consider touch rugby as a minority sport..

          Eh? Only if you don’t know what minority means.

          Minority in terms of adult playing, …

          Oh, you do. Weird.

          Have a squiz at this: http://www.activenzsurvey.org.nz/Results/2007-08-Active-NZ-Survey/Findings-200708-Active-New-Zealand-Survey/Sport-and-Recreation-Participation-Levels/

          That’s for nzers over 16.

          Anyone with kids can fill you in on what’s happening with the younger age groups.

          • Descendant Of Smith 5.2.1.1.1

            Partake and registered players are quite separate matters – I partake of alcohol but wouldn’t consider myself a drinker, I partake of soccer now and then but wouldn’t consider myself a soccer player.

            I follow the Phoenix with a degree of interest but wouldn’t call myself a fan.

            It’s a matter of degree and interpretation I guess.

            I was asked why I had that opinion – explained it.

            Remember I was commenting on whether there should be a holiday should the All Whites A. Actually win a game at the World Cup
            B. Progress to the next round
            C: Win the whole tournament

            • felix 5.2.1.1.1.1

              I suppose if you just ignore all the available information you might have a point.

              Like I said, go and see what’s happening in schools all over the country. An entire generation has turned it’s back on the oval in favour of the sphere.

              • Descendant Of Smith

                That’s not all the available information and this is turning into trolling so I won’t make any further comment after this.

                There’s information about the registered playing numbers and the lack of progression of soccer players transitioning from school to adulthood, there’s the impact of professional rugby increasing the number of rugby players after some declining years, there’s information about the browning of the population and the inability of both soccer and cricket to attract Maori and Pacific Island players in significant numbers, there’s the advent of many other sports which give players much more choice – my kids played canoe polo for instance a choice that was never available when I was at school.

                There’s hundred of angles you can take on this. It won’t change the fact that we are 78th in the world in soccer and consistently number one in rugby which was sorta the point..

                I wasn’t having a go at soccer, and I played soccer from a young age til the 6th form when I switched to rugby – you might like to imagine what it is like being the only boarding soccer player in a staunch rugby school. I was only making the point that the All Whites achievements come from a low base to start off with.

                Accolades yes holiday no.

                I should sometimes just make the point simply – justification can lead to pointless debate.

                I’m more than happy to agree to disagree.

                • felix

                  Well of of course I’m happy to disagree too – and I’m not trying to troll you, I just couldn’t help noticing that many of your statements contradict each other and many others are just wrong (consistently number one in rugby? Pull the other one).

                  Anyhoo I don’t much care for the holiday idea either – a slippery slope if you ask me. Righto the game is on I believe.

  6. This campaign makes me feel sick to think I have supported Labour.

    The video, the public holiday idea… who is the fuckwit running this show?

  7. freedom 7

    GO ALL WHITES
    now, this sort of idea of an instant day off can only come from people who work in an office with bugger all understanding of the real world most people live in.

    for most workers and most employers it is a lot more complicated than pressing the sleep button on a computer and turning up monday.
    it would also cost a fortune.

    and by the way i am sure the hospitality industry would be expected to be open to serve the brunches and beers, where is their day off to celebrate?

    basically the holiday is a poorly thought out reactionary idea that should be ignored
    a holiday for the teams’ return makes more sense

  8. Carol 8

    I’m interested in seeing how the NZ does at the world cup and will watch the next match (probably by recording it and watch it in the morning). I will be excited if they win. But, really, I don’t think it warrants a day off work.

    There are more important things going on in the world, and in NZ, and I suspect it’s largely a guy thing to get so excited about such a win.

    • freedom 8.1

      i think you would be suprised just how big the female support base is
      as a girlfriend of mine says “never underestimate the power of guys in tight shorts”

      • Carol 8.1.1

        The apeal of guys in tight shorts passes me by. And it undermines female interest in sports to claim it’s all about sex appeal. I do support the NZ soccer team. But even the tight shorts thing is hardly the basis for a public holiday.

        • uroskin 8.1.1.1

          If tights shorts were a valid reason for a public holiday, Melbourne would be on permanent vacation thanks to the AFL.

  9. swimmer 9

    I’m all for a holiday, go the all whites.

  10. WOOF 10

    It would be good to see the team fetch another victory 🙂

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