Red or blue?

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1. Lanthanide 1

   25 November 2011 at 12:36 pm

   If you’ve got a mum whose voting blue, send this to them:

   http://mum.decanker.com/

   Mum, it doesn’t take much to keep me in New Zealand. All I dream of is what your generation had – pride in my environment, a decent job, an affordable home and a fair society in which to raise children. Why did these become nice-to-haves?

   …

   I’m not really asking for much Mum; but when you’re in the polling booth this Saturday, can you just spare a thought for me and your grandchildren?”
   • Vicky32 1.1

     25 November 2011 at 11:38 pm

     My son has announced that if National get back in and if MMP is on the line, he’s off – granted he’s thought about it for years, but now he’s serious. He’s gone as far as researching what it will take to get his registration in each of 4 countries – and a now senior cardiothoracic staff nurse is much in demand…
2. Jimmy 2

   25 November 2011 at 12:44 pm

   Either way, I’m waking up with a wicked hangover….
3. kriswgtn 3

   25 November 2011 at 12:55 pm

   Red – cos blue doesnt feature in my country of birth
4. mickysavage 4

   25 November 2011 at 12:55 pm

   This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back.

   You take the blue pill – the story ends, you wake up in your bed and and your country’s assets are sold overseas. Your rights are taken away and family members who are beneficiaries are bashed.

   You take the red pill – things will change and I will show you how much fairer your country can be.
   • Rob 4.1

     25 November 2011 at 4:26 pm

     Really, we had 9 years of it previously and it wasnt that good, in fact it was pretty average.Finance companies bloomed, credit card debt scaled out of control, manufacturing left, shower heads were getting regulated, and poverty wasnt reduced or eliminated.

     The worst thing is that this time will bring Winston in with you, do you think nobody remembers this shit.
     • Colonial Viper 4.1.1

       25 November 2011 at 8:51 pm

       Yeah you might think it was average, what do you call John Key increasing the number of beneficiaries by 50% and forcing young mums to go work when their youngest turns 1?

       Oh yeah, usual Right Wing shite, that’s what.
5. Lanthanide 5

   25 November 2011 at 1:15 pm

   Just heard on the midday news on National Radio that two specialist lawyers were warning that National may not be able to create legislation as proposed that would limit the initial asset sales to 15% going to foreign companies. Specifically the trade agreements with Singapore and China would conflict with this, although it may be difficult for foreign nationals to mount a case that they were financially harmed by shares that they couldn’t purchase.
   • mickysavage 5.1

     25 November 2011 at 1:30 pm

     It would be impossible to exclude the Australians as well. They really are telling fibbies here.
6. ianmac 6

   25 November 2011 at 1:29 pm

   In the States red is Republican and Blue Democrats. Hope the new immigrant Americans don’t get confused.
   In spite of the low key (or is that low Key) election dialogue, it may be a very important historic election. It is still possible that the current opposition parties could win so until numbers prove otherwise on Saturday night, go Red or Green or even NZF.
7. Tiger Mountain 7

   25 November 2011 at 1:30 pm

   Spinning, spinning, spinning in this magic land…. the gargoyle is still at it today with new online columns at the NZ Herald and Fear Facts.
8. Maggie May 8

   25 November 2011 at 2:06 pm

   If you don’t vote to save our assets tomorrow I wonder how long before your kids turn against you for destroying their heritage and their country.

   So What will you say to your grandchildren when they ask you… Why did yo let it happen.
   • fender 8.1

     25 November 2011 at 2:27 pm

     The gutless blue followers will deny voting for them.
   • Bazar 8.2

     25 November 2011 at 4:53 pm

     I’d tell them they were the prelude to dark days.
     That we were just recovering from one international recession, and were looking at another bigger one looming on the horizon.

     It was an easy choice, choosing between a party that built and demonstrated its fiscal restraint, or a party that lead us into the recession, and for 2 years into the recession thought that spending was the fastest way to get out of debt.

     That’s what i’ll tell them.
     • Colonial Viper 8.2.1

       25 November 2011 at 8:55 pm

       And they will reply “fuck you were gullible old man, how did you figure that selling off our country to foreigners was going to make things better for any of us? Old fool”

       Followed by

       “the old mans pretty damn old but if we sell off one of his kidneys now we can get a bit of money up front out of the stingy prick, and he won’t notice for a few years that we’ve fucked him”

       Sweet karma.
       • Bazar 8.2.1.1

         25 November 2011 at 9:16 pm

         What was that you said Viper?
         I couldn’t hear over the celebrations of national winning its second term.

         But don’t sulk too hard, you’ll have another chance to turn nz into a communist welfare nation in 3 years time.
         • Colonial Viper 8.2.1.1.1

           25 November 2011 at 10:07 pm

           Ah Bazar, did you notice that this isn’t NZ’s Next Top Model?

           And I do know that Labour are the underdogs here. I give the NATs 2:1 odds to win, personally.

           But I also know that if they win, John Key and the National Govt are not going to be able to turn their frowns upside down.

           But don’t sulk too hard, you’ll have another chance to turn nz into a communist welfare nation in 3 years time.

           yup. Putting in an order of guillotines as we speak.
9. brett Dale 9

   25 November 2011 at 5:49 pm

   I perfer Inception to that kids movie.
   • Lanthanide 9.1

     25 November 2011 at 6:07 pm

     You always did strike me as a dreamer out of touch with reality where down was up and up was down, Brett.
     • brett Dale 9.1.1

       25 November 2011 at 8:55 pm

       Lanthanide:

       Not a dreamer at all, just think that Inception is the best fuckin movie ever, and the matrix was for little kids to go “oohhhhhhhh’, “Ahhhhhhhhh” at all the special effects.
       • Colonial Viper 9.1.1.1

         25 November 2011 at 10:09 pm

         You clearly didn’t have much insight into the original Matrix, which was a paradigm breaking artpiece.

         Admittedly no.s 2 and 3 were shite.
         • brett Dale 9.1.1.1.1

           25 November 2011 at 10:12 pm

           Colonial Viper:

           Thought the first matrix was good entertainment, hated the second, didnt go see the third, not a scifi guy, apart from the original starwars series, The original planet of the apes, and the rise of the planet of the apes, (which is the best movie about monkeys ever) just think Inception is the greatest movie I have ever seen.
           • felix 9.1.1.1.1.1

             25 November 2011 at 10:44 pm

             Yep it’s hard to think of a better monkey-related film, have to agree with that.
           • Vicky32 9.1.1.1.1.2

             25 November 2011 at 11:53 pm

             The original planet of the apes, and the rise of the planet of the apes, (which is the best movie about monkeys ever) just think Inception is the greatest movie I have ever seen.

             Just putting on my Nerd hat in order to point out that the Americans notwithstanding, apes are not monkeys. But you prolly knew that… Is  the fact that Americans coined ‘prolly’ evidence of their laziness or their stupidity?
   • Draco T Bastard 9.2

     25 November 2011 at 6:24 pm

     A dream within a dream within a dream.

     Yeah, I can see how that would appeal to the delusional RWNJs. They’re not connected to reality already.
     • brett Dale 9.2.1

       25 November 2011 at 8:56 pm

       Draco:

       Within a dream and then another dream.
       • Draco T Bastard 9.2.1.1

         25 November 2011 at 9:55 pm

         I suggest you go watch the movie again.
         • brett Dale 9.2.1.1.1

           25 November 2011 at 10:31 pm

           The last dream had four layers I think.
10. Cin77 10

    25 November 2011 at 8:49 pm

    Oh man, just got the sudden urge to watch The Matrix but I might watch V for Vendetta instead, seems so much more appropriate.
11. Olwyn 11

    25 November 2011 at 9:07 pm

    Amusing link from facebook:

    http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=282485968449607&set=a.185473948150810.42531.177559742275564&type=1&ref=nf
12. Afewknowthetruth 12

    25 November 2011 at 10:57 pm

    The original context was a choice between seeking [and discovering] the truth or being content to remain in a zombie-like state, deceived.

    In that sense, the vast majority of NZers choose the ‘blue pill’ every day, never questioning the nonsense churned out by the mainstream media or the vast majority of politicians.

    In the original context, the vast majority of political candidates (including those representing ‘red’ and ‘green’ parties) are offering the general public the blue pill ….. the one that says: ‘Keep believing in the system, even as it fails. Keep ignoring peak oil, keep ignoring the unravelling of the financial system and keep ignoring environmental collapse’.

    Little has changed since the parties’ response to peak oil (scroll down) was created several years ago

    http://www.oilcrash.com/

    except that Direct Democracy gave truth a go and failed to gain much traction, partly as a consequence of media manipulation and partly because the ‘dumbed-down masses’ prefered lies and delusions.

    ‘A husband and wife living with a couple of kids in a house in the suburb. The perfect combo, near the city but in the country, with large houses and lots. A car or two, maybe even a cat and a dog. This is what we should all strive to accomplish, the perfect little family in the perfect little household in the perfect little society. Society would take care of us, provide us with our food and water and other necessities, and in turn we would take care of society by adding to the economy through the jobs we do. It’s a nice little system in which everyone benefits. We as humans have achieved the perfect way of life. If only it were so.

    Unfortunately, this is not the case. The type of world we live in now is one where the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. Since the day of our birth we have been fed a convenient illusion, a picture of the world that hides the truth from us. One part of this illusion is the notion that we superior to our predecessors. We are smarter, have better tools, we have more knowledge, and we have a better quality of life than they did. We feel as if we are better than they are, and that humanity has reached a new level. However, in all this advance we have neglected one the most important concepts that our predecessors new and respected, a fundamental concept that will come back to haunt us in the near future. This concept is the idea that if you keep taking and using a resource, eventually this resource will disappear. If there is a bag of ten marbles, and you take a marble out every day, eventually all the marbles will be gone. This is simply common sense, and everyone can say that they know that if they keep using a resource it will be depleted. No one denies this.

    We all know this, but we fail to act upon it. The fact that resources are not infinite spells major disaster for our society, our way of life, and each and every one of us. The important distinction to make at this point is this: It is not the fact that resources are limited that is troublesome; it is our current way of life that disregards this fact that is troublesome. ‘

    The Convenient Illusion

    http://malthusia.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=1571

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