#Sheepgate – The Compensation payment for the claim that did not exist

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1. Sabine 1

   4 July 2016 at 10:27 am

   corruption.

   i think we should be now be past the ‘incompetence’ meme, they are not incompetent, they are corrupt to the core.
   • Pasupial 1.1

     4 July 2016 at 11:42 am

     I would rather go for the last option; that National are both corrupt and incompetent. The interesting thing is that their lies are starting to be investigated by post-Campbell TV3. Maybe Weldon leaving has something to do with that?
   • Henry Filth 1.2

     4 July 2016 at 5:30 pm

     But, while incompetent, they are stutteringly bad at corruption.

     Which is a good thing, when you think about it.
     • reason 1.2.1

       4 July 2016 at 9:58 pm

       tell it like it is henwy …. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX0XDHF3M60 no coowuption anyweah
2. Greg 2

   4 July 2016 at 10:42 am

   They backed a business man with dubious claims to royal connections, or backed the wrong prince to succeed
   http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/who-will-be-the-next-king-of-saudi-arabia

   http://www.newshub.co.nz/nznews/saudi-payment-illegal-in-other-countries-2015062419#axzz4DO6ugv9u

   this begs another case to be investigated:

   Its incredulous that IRD needed a extra 205 million dollars to make Keys pet project of zero rated tax company structures somehow compliant with EU laws.

   All for a business profiting a few lawyers and accountants to 23 million dollars.

   The Government could also bring forward a second tranche of anti-money laundering measures. Mr Key said while it was possible there were rogue trust companies, they had to meet laws, include money laundering laws, and Inland Revenue was recently given $205 million for compliance.’
   http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11636261

   In America would this be a legal case for racketeering, to convict corrupt politicians?
3. Wyndham 3

   4 July 2016 at 11:51 am

   Key is still maintaining with vehemence , that Phil Goff is to blame !
   • Greg 3.1

     4 July 2016 at 11:57 am

     Gambling for a FTA is what its all about, and they continue to bet on a failed prospect.

     What is Gambling?

     Gambling consists of making a bet on the outcome of some event. Bets may be placed on horse races, sports contests, or games of chance such as dice, cards, bingo, lottery, slot machines, or roulette. Bets usually consist of money or other assets which are won or lost depending on whether a correct or an incorrect prediction is made. The prospect of winning a large jackpot sometimes motivates people to take unusual financial risks and may lead to gambling addiction

     http://www.scientificpsychic.com/workbook/gambling.html
4. Mrs Brillo 4

   4 July 2016 at 12:23 pm

   And wasn’t that “satellite farm” in a third country just a paperwork facilitator enabling New Zealand to export live sheep under one guise, as breeding ewes, knowing fully well that the third country would immediately onsell them as an (illegal here) live sheep export for slaughter?

   Looks like it’s not only money we’re laundering, it’s quadrupeds.

   National’s New Zealand, the dirty washing machine of the South Pacific.
5. adam 5

   4 July 2016 at 12:45 pm

   Does Murray know something we don’t know? Like the rich Saudi is really the go to guy for ISIS, and Murray is doing his bit to protect NZ? Or like it really is like James Bond film and no one is sure who the bad guys are (though it probably is spectre) ? Murray knows that to keep everyone safe he must hand over the sheep, and the money? Murray knows, oh Murray knows.

   Poor attempts at satire aside, If Murray knows or does not know why he has handed over cash and sheep I think Murray is done. How many times can a Minister make mistakes in this government? It must be a new record for incompetence! And for a minister to publicly shows his stupidity – new record as well?!?!

   Personally, I hope the nats keep him, he goes a long way to show just how bloody awful they are, how stupid they are, and how shocking inept at the business of government this fifth nation government has truly become.
6. slumbergod 6

   4 July 2016 at 12:50 pm

   But of course the govt will cover it up like they always do because they are all as corrupt as each other. If they want to be buddy-buddies with evil arab regimes they should sell up and go live with them. Start by sending McCully over on a sheep transport the same as the sheep he sent.
7. Smilin 7

   4 July 2016 at 12:55 pm

   The whole thing a costly exercise in graft and sucking up to the Saudis to which we should not have had a bar of .
   The cost of this ill thought folly is absolutely treasonous to this nation and to anybody who can add 2+2 must feel absolutely had at this whole concept of farming
   You want sheep you arabs buy our meat or AI progeny straws and cut the crap
   This piece of political stupidity is beyond excuse or rectification and all the idiots who bought into this should be taken to account but as usual Key will gloss it up with another billion dollar false smile of borrowing and government responsibility will be waived with the intelligence of one – a sheep vote
8. Onesie 8

   4 July 2016 at 2:10 pm

   I wonder how much B____ made facilitating the deal…
9. AmaKiwi 9

   4 July 2016 at 3:36 pm

   For reasons of commercial sensitivity and National’s security there will be no further information released about this matter.
10. wyndham 10

    4 July 2016 at 4:10 pm

    Key will never dare to sack McCully, the master of dark forces in the National Party. He knows far too much. Not known as Machiavellian for nothing. Besides, he’s a great pal of the odious Boag.
11. Draco T Bastard 11

    4 July 2016 at 4:19 pm

    As Matthew Hooton has said there are worrying issues about whether this is evidence of incompetence or corruption.

    It appears to be incompetent corruption and as such McCully needs to go to jail for it and the receivers of it made persona non grata in NZ. Make it so that they can’t do business ever again in NZ.
    • Greg 11.1

      4 July 2016 at 5:24 pm

      good luck with that,

      The principle of collective responsibility underpins the system of Cabinet government. It reflects democratic principle: the House expresses its confidence in the collective whole of government, rather than in individual Ministers. Similarly, the Governor-General, in acting on ministerial advice, needs to be confident that individual Ministers represent official government policy. In all areas of their work, therefore, Ministers represent and implement government policy.

      http://www.cabinetmanual.cabinetoffice.govt.nz/5.11#5.22

      so not individually legally responsible,
      but they sure accept royal titles quickly enough when the retire!
      • Draco T Bastard 11.1.1

        4 July 2016 at 6:06 pm

        It reflects democratic principle: the House expresses its confidence in the collective whole of government, rather than in individual Ministers.

        True but if a single member has acted inappropriately they can be removed – see privileges committee actions. If a single member has committed a crime (unfortunately corruption doesn’t appear to be a crime in NZ) then that single MP can go to jail and, of course, be removed from parliament.

        People who are not of ‘good character’ can be prevented from owning business and land in NZ under present law.
        • Greg 11.1.1.1

          4 July 2016 at 8:25 pm

          We wouldnt know if they had committed a crime because NZ establishment cover it up, opps judicary,

          The New Zealand high court judge who is to chair the independent inquiry into child sex abuse has said she has no links to the establishment, telling MPs: “We don’t have such a thing in my country.”

          https://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/feb/11/justice-lowell-goddard-establishment-links-child-abuse-inquiry-truth-reconciliation

          =Prominent, oh wait, hmm,
12. Neil 12

    4 July 2016 at 5:48 pm

    Move along nothing to see here, Mc Cully has done no wrong & will keep his job.
    • Onesie 12.1

      4 July 2016 at 6:18 pm

      “McCully, Hamood and Assaf discussed the possibility of creating a satellite farm in Ethiopia, using official development assistance funds.” Stealing in any other language except NZ.
      • Greg 12.1.1

        5 July 2016 at 7:54 am

        Well the Saudi one was a epic fail, 2/3s of the lambs died in a dust storm,
        in the rest didnt get used for breeding stock just ended up on the dinner plate.
        Great way to treat a expensive delivery of mutton…
    • Draco T Bastard 12.2

      4 July 2016 at 10:08 pm

      What McCully did in most countries of the world is called a bribe and results in prison time.
13. P.H .Tredo 13

    4 July 2016 at 6:28 pm

    yet mor lies from the key govenment , How much more dose the rest of NZ need to be shown before action is taken to stop the rot
14. Gabby 14

    4 July 2016 at 6:59 pm

    Who’s Munter McMutton’s sheepfarmer friend/creditor/potential banker?
15. Stuart Munro 15

    4 July 2016 at 7:07 pm

    For 11 million they could’ve refitted a ship so that transported animals were not distressed. I could’ve been a cabinet minister, but I wasn’t stupid enough.
16. North 16

    4 July 2016 at 9:10 pm

    Mmmmm…….that McCully’s a piece of dodgy shit ain’t he ?
17. Samwise 17

    5 July 2016 at 11:04 am

    National is in it’s Third term defense-mode. They’ll never sack McCully, even if he was filmed shagging one of those sheep before sending it off to Saudi Arabia to die a pitiful death in a godforsaken desert.

    Phil Heatley was sacked for what, a couple of $79 bottles of wine put on his ministerial credit card?

    McCully wastes $11.5 million of our money and keeps his job.

    The difference is that Heatley had the misfortune to screw up in the wrong term.

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