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Shock horror, National is telling fibs about Labour’s Industrial Relations policy

Written By: - Date published: 8:00 am, June 27th, 2018 - 102 comments
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National is still trying to find this Government’s weaknesses.

It is that desperate it is going back to techniques that worked well back in 1975. It is attacking Labour over Industrial Relations and strike action.

The reality is that the attack is tenuous.

Sure there has been much more talk about strikes than there has been for a number of years. Workers who after a decade of cost accounting approaches to wage increases think that the new Government will be more receptive to the idea of giving them wage increases. So of course there is greater interest.  There is a lot of pent up pressure for wage increases.

But National is that desperate it is getting to the stupid stage of its analysis. And the dishonest.

Take for instance this from Radio New Zealand:

National leader Simon Bridges claims New Zealand has had more strikes and threats of industrial action under the present government than during the previous National government’s entire nine years in power.

National is keen to paint the current government as union-friendly – and said that meant more strikes.

Mr Bridges said that in under nine months, 32,000 workers had either been involved in industrial action or signaled an intention to do so.

He said this number far exceeded the 27,000 workers who took part in strike action during National’s three terms in power.

“This is remarkable. In nine months under this government we’ve seen more strikes in terms of people out there wanting to do it and doing it, than we saw in nine years under a National-led government,” Mr Bridges said.

His claims are reinforced by this tweet:

But let’s analyse the detail.  National is claiming that more workers have gone on strike OR indicated they may go on strike during this term than went on strike during the last Government’s term.

This is like saying because the number of homeless kids under this Government AND the number of kids who do not own Xboxes is greater than the number of homeless kids there were under the last Government things are getting worse.

Surely you say this cannot be true.  Well Alex Braae at the Spinoff has looked at the figures and shown cases where threatened but called off strike action has not been included in National’s figures.  He also identifies a strike that did occur, Junior Doctors in 2016, that has not been included in National’s analysis.  So the analysis is sloppy as well as comparing different things.

This is the sort of thing that you say when you sacrifice all pretence to wanting the support of people who understand statistics and only want the support of people who hate unions.

But this is not an unfortunate lapse of concentration on the part of National. It appears to be a design feature.

Because National came out with this tweet yesterday.

And Te Reo Putake had the perfect response.

TRP is dead right.  The problem is that National’s use of the video is, to use that word you use when you want to say something even stronger, disingenuous.

Jacinda Ardern did not give a “rock solid guarantee” there would be no national strikes.  She said there would be no national strikes as a result of the introduction of Labour’s proposed Fair Pay Agreement collective bargaining system.  Here is the video if you need proof (at 59:05).

Labour has consistently said that strikes and lockouts will be banned during bargaining negotiations under the Fair Pay Agreement collective bargaining system.

The discussion actually went like this.  The bolded words are the words that National trimmed from its video.

Hosking: In these one to two of these [negotiations] per year will you go back to seeing national strikes in an Industry

Ardern: No, no, we will not

Hosking: And that is a rock solid guarantee

Ardern: Yes, no we will not

National took Ardern’s comments out of context and actually shaved some of Mike Hosking’s words off to change completely the meaning of what was said.

And compare what was actually said to the contents of National’s tweet.  National’s social media gurus have taken Jacinda’s comment totally out of context and then misrepresented it.

Maybe they are that stupid they truly did not understand.  Maybe not.

So what sort of political discourse are we going to haven Aotearoa New Zealand?  One where the right and the left throw ideas at each other and rely on the good sense of the community at large to determine who should be trusted?  Or one where one side tells fibs and distorts?

Judging by National’s behaviour over the strike data the chances of an informed contest of ideas are not good.

102 comments on “Shock horror, National is telling fibs about Labour’s Industrial Relations policy ”

  1. One Anonymous Bloke 1

    If the National Party told the truth about their policy agenda people would question why they’re advocating a slow civil war.

    Of course they have to lie about it.

    • Gosman 1.1

      A slow civil war???

      • ropata 1.1.1

        Yes by dividing the nation into haves/have nots. Vilifying the poor. Selling out to foreigners and corporates. Working for the 1% and using dirty politics to split the 99% against each other. Importing 500000 foreigners in 10 years and pushing Kiwis out of housing and welfare.

        The Nats are dangerous parasitic class of selfish fuckwits who will stop at nothing to regain power. Lying and disdain for democracy is their MO and shit for brains Nat sycophants lap it up

        • Gosman

          Then pretty much the entire planet is in the midst of this slow civil war. How’s it working out for you?

          • ropata

            I am fine but poorer NZers are not. Class war is real.

            • Gosman

              If you’re stuck in a 1930’s mindset.

              • ropata

                Don’t get out much do you? We have been heading back that way for decades

              • Tricledrown

                Goose man your stuck in Fuedal times
                Dickensian times.
                If not for 1930’s labour /labor movements your education would not reached very high levels.
                You wouldn’t be a landlord so you would be a serf.

              • R.P Mcmurphy

                class warfare has been going on since the priest first seized control 5,000 years ago. the thirties were just an expression of the same impulse to drive the workers into the dust. if your comprehension of history only goes back eighty years then you should bone up on reality.

      • R.P Mcmurphy 1.1.2


  2. Sabine 2

    Simon Bridges and the No mates Party lying. Who would have thought.

  3. Ross 3

    Its worth noting that there are restrictions now on when strikes (and lockouts) can legally take place. For instance workers in an essential industry cannot strike unless the correct notice has been given. Workers cannot strike if such action is being taken within 40 days of negotiations beginning, or theres a current collective agreement etc. The suggestion that workers can strike when they feel like it is a Tory myth.


  4. Ross 4

    Gordon Campbell makes the point that strikes are a last resort, not that you would know that by listening to Simple Simon.


  5. Bill 5

    Am I reading the general thrust of this post correctly?

    The argument seems to be that workers aspirations need to be kept in check, and that NZ Labour will be the equal of National in that endeavour…and that that’s a good thing!

    I don’t understand this universe that would have us approve of NZ Labour putting even more proscriptions around industrial action.

    • adam 5.1

      Thanks Bill, I was reading this getting quite a sick feeling. It’s like the nat’s can lie, but it takes labour to keep workers into line.

    • Draco T Bastard 5.2


    • mickysavage 5.3

      Not at all. The article is about the extended spin National is relying on to bolster its claims and how their claims are untrue. Nothing more should be read into it.

      The post says “[t]here is a lot of pent up pressure for wage increases”.

      • Bill 5.3.1

        I fully get that the dominant theme’s meant to be about the lies of the National Party.

        But when lies are illustrated by mounting a defence around labour (the work force) having engaged in no more industrial action under NZ Labour than under National, and neutrally pointing to NZ Labour being in the throes of proscribing strike action around national awards, well…

        it’s fighting a losing fight on terms set down by an opposition that just reinforces a basic idea they peddle – ie, industrial action is bad.

        The National Party are disingenuous scum.
        Workers aren’t taking industrial action to improve their lot.
        NZ Labour are passing legislation to proscribe industrial action.

        Decry, lament and condemn.

        • Ross

          NZ Labour are passing legislation to proscribe industrial action.

          But as I explained above, there are already limits around when and how industrial action can be taken now and that applies to employees and employers.

          Workers aren’t taking industrial action to improve their lot.

          What then are they taking industrial action over, if not to improve their lot?

          • Bill

            I know NZ has highly restrictive Labour Laws. Are you saying that adding another layer of proscription is okay? Surely not.

            Second cut and pasted quote’s kinda cute. Pretty damned sure you understood the intended meaning of what I wrote.

            • Ross

              Another layer of proscription? We already have laws around when workers can and cannot strike so I’m not sure it’s another layer. It seems entirely reasonable that employees shouldn’t strike, or be locked out, while negotiating in good faith. An entire section of the ERA talks about good faith. It’s pretty important.

              I know NZ has highly restrictive Labour Laws.

              I have no idea what those are but it’s a line that employers use now and again. And, no, I don’t know what you meant.

        • mickysavage

          My perhaps foggy memory is that strikes during award negotiations were illegal.

          The post is not meant to say this is right or wrong. It is to point out that what National has been saying about labour’s position is demonstrably wrong.

          • marty mars

            Yes I read the post as being about the lies of the gnats and how desperate for traction they are rather than a critique of policy itself.

      • Michelle 5.3.2

        The problem is Mickey they got away with the spin for so long they think they can continue with the same old bull but finally the light has come on for some of our fellow kiwis hooray! . Unfortunately we still have too many that vote and think only about themselves rather than what is better for our country.

  6. Anne 6

    The Muldoon play-book between 1975 and 1984 is back in vogue. Scare tactics, lying, cheating, demonising and bullying were the hall marks of the Muldoon leadership.

  7. Kat 7

    Its quite clear and has been for many years, National will do and say anything to be in power and keep Labour out of power. That is what the National party is increasingly all about and running the country prosperously for all is a game plan to be avoided at all cost.

  8. Draco T Bastard 8

    Or one where one side tells fibs and distorts?

    National (and the right-wing in general) has to lie else very few would vote for them.

    Their actual policy goals are actually that bad for the majority of people. Follow National’s policy prescriptions and they will collapse society by creating ever more poverty and deprivation.

    • indiana 8.1

      You are absolutely right! After Labour took office the number of people living in cars dried up overnight…no more stories are being shopped to the media because there are no stories to push.

  9. Chris T 9

    Tis pretty funny, but please don’t tell me that out of the two major parties only National manipulates facts to push their message in opposition as that would be a bit silly.

    Or in power, to be frank, but to a lesser degree, as more analysis of their claims is done

    • Nick 9.1

      Chris…..’manipulated’ “facts” you say….. so the Natz edit into a lie, but you still read it as a “fact”?

  10. marty mars 10

    Yep TRP was correct – maybe he could do a guest post as he is very knowledgeable about this as are you Mickey 😁

    The gnats have kept their boot on the throat of the worker for nine long tears (apt typo) and it makes sense that when that pressure is taken off, it takes a while to regain equilibrium. As someone who has benefited, by the strong labour-union relationship, over recent weeks, I still have heaps of hope that any action will be quick and effective.

    • gsays 10.1

      You and I, both, are hoping for a swift resolution.
      The nurses started negotiating with the previous national regime, hence the industrial action now.

  11. James(uncommon) 11

    I started writing more but basically: shit like this works on the selfish, lazy citizens (the majority).

  12. veutoviper 12

    As well as the link to the RNZ Checkpoint item last night on National’s claims, it is well worth listening to the earlier RNZ Morning Report interview with Winston Peters:


    The first half of the exchange on Bridges’s Question 2 to Peters, as Acting PM, also gives context to the later Checkpoint item, with both the Speaker and Peters batting away Bridges’ claims with ease. Again, Bridges’ questions/claims take some issues out of context – eg JA;s statement about nationalwide strike action and Peters reiterates his earlier remarks on Morning Report:

    Video https://www.parliament.nz/en/watch-parliament/ondemand?itemId=201091

    Hansard https://www.parliament.nz/en/pb/hansard-debates/rhr/combined/HansDeb_20180626_20180626_12

    (In the second half of Q2, Peters’ strong defence of David Parker vis a vis Bridges’ question about Parker’s relationship with Darby is interesting as is his challenge to Bridges to make the claims outside of Parliament. LOL)

    • mickysavage 12.1

      Thanks VV. Peters’s treatment of Bridges is masterful!

      • patricia bremner 12.1.1

        Winston’s empathy for repressed workers’ hopes for improved conditions and pay came across clearly, as did his belief in negotiation and fairness.

        Sadly “fairness” is not in the Nat rule book, being devious and causing dissension is

        This twisting phrases out of context is a stupid ploy, as the internet quickly allows comparisons, to Bridges detriment.

        Thanks V.V. If Bridges thought he could dent the PM through attacking the Acting PM, he has had a harsh lesson. Bennett’s eye rolling LOL LOL. doesn’t help Simon

    • Gabby 12.2

      I look forward to Slick’s explanation when Soozie asks him why he lied.

    • Kevin 12.3

      The interesting thing for me about the one sided verbal joust in Parliament was Paula Bennett.

      She started off all smiles and as each minute passed the smile disappeared bit by bit to the point where she was probably mentally saying, “Simon, shut the fuck up”.

      Bridges was no match for Winston. who was clearly disappointed at the level of discourse.

      I hope Bridges stays as National leader for a very long time.

  13. Ad 13

    Arguing against pay increases for tens of thousands of New Zealanders is moronic.

    Excluding the top 3%, we all need to be paid more.

    Great that we still have our biggest remaining union – the state – now willing to really shell out.

  14. Enough is Enough 14

    You are very defensive about the National Party.

    I would rather ignore them and focus on the things the government are doing (good or bad).

    Talking about National on a daily basis gives them (and their lunatic mates) oxygen. Lets just suffocate them.

    • ropata 14.1

      It’s not a few bloggers giving the Noxious Party oxygen it’s the whole MSM, 45% of the electorate, and a fuckton of wealthy foreign sponsors.

      That’s why fringe dwelling troglodytes like TS are an important counternarrative

    • Gabby 14.2

      Especially when they’re being dicks right nuffy nuffy?

  15. Baba Yaga 15

    “National is still trying to find this Government’s weaknesses.”

    Really? I’ll help out. This government is incompetent, dishonest, weak and destructive to the economy. There. Where do I send the bill?

    • rod 15.1

      Baby Yappa, it’s about time you changed your nappies, your shite is endless.

    • Stuart Munro 15.2

      Try Key’s mansion in Hawaii.

      This government is infinitely better than the pathetic shambling morons presently occupying the opposition benches.

      The only thing they’re doing wrong is not rejecting the errors of the previous government forcefully and in their entirety.

      The worst government in NZ history has made a hell of a mess – it’s going to take a while to clean it up. Future messes could be prevented by incarcerating sources of corruption like Joyce, Collins, and Brownlee.

      • Draco T Bastard 15.2.1

        Future messes could be prevented by incarcerating sources of corruption like Joyce, Collins, and Brownlee.

        It’s becoming necessary that, when a government passes policy that they’re advised will be bad for the nation, that they all to go to jail when it becomes clear that what they were advised would happen actually happens.

        The advice can come from anywhere.

        • Stuart Munro

          Yes, it’s most unfortunate, but the current crop of Gnats’ loyalty no longer plausibly resides with our country. They act against the national interest to enrich themselves. And they’ve been quite happy to lie in pursuit of their goals. Such people are not fit to be in parliament, much less to govern.

      • patricia bremner 15.2.2

        + 1000% Stuart. This Government is changing or working towards changing many terrible known ills and a few hidden ones as well.

        The contrast is huge. As I said, when did the press last applaud a politician from the left? Jacinda has broken new ground at such a rate Bridges etc are floundering in her wake. They have “made stuff up” to try to cause a problem.

        Someone should have told them “Don’t throw shit into the wind!!”

        • Baba Yaga

          “Jacinda has broken new ground…”

          In failing to show leadership against incompetent and corrupt ministers.

          In failing to consult with industry when making decisions that critically effect them.

          In failing to maintain business confidence.

          In failing to maintain industrial harmony.

          In failing to protect NZ’ers from rising price inflation.

          In fact in failing at just about everything.

          • Stuart Munro


            She has shown strong leadership against corrupt ministers – by removing the previous government, who were comprised of nothing else.

            She has consulted with industry.

            If business confidence is so fragile it can’t survive enforcement of industrial laws, some of the incompetents need to find a new line of work.

            Yes price inflation is an issue – strong regulation is the answer – your seedy business mates won’t like it a bit.

            Infinitely better in every respect than the vile backward repressive troupe of gibbering buffoons under whose incompetent leadership NZ stagnated for most of the last decade.

            • Baba Yaga

              “She has shown strong leadership against corrupt ministers – by removing the previous government…”
              You mean she rigged the election!!??
              What has she done about Clare Curran? David Clark? Kelvin Davis?

              “She has consulted with industry.”
              The oil and gas industry? Nah.

              “If business confidence is so fragile it can’t survive enforcement of industrial laws, some of the incompetents need to find a new line of work.”
              It’s not that, it’s the constant flip-flopping, the mixed signals, the economic illiteracy.

              “Yes price inflation is an issue – strong regulation is the answer – your seedy business mates won’t like it a bit.”
              So your government has stuffed up the economy and now you advocate regulation to fix it!

              Incompetent, inept, corrupt. Labour NZ.

        • Stuart Munro

          Disgruntled former employees from the sleazy Coleman administration trying to strong arm the new minister. If there were any substance to it their avenue would be the police, not the Gnats.

          • Baba Yaga

            Civil servants whistle blowing on a incompetent bully boy trying to be a Minister.

            • Stuart Munro

              Unemployed Gnat rorters vice signaling in hopes of being picked up by a subsequent administration.

              • Baba Yaga

                So you know the political affiliations of these people? You really are full of yourself Stuart.

                • Stuart Munro

                  It’s not rocket science. These noisy supporters of “shit-in-the-walls” Coleman are, like you, unreliable sources.

                  Ordinary professionals just want to get on with the job – the screaming me me’s try and pin existing problems on a new minister – anomalous if they’re not toxic farright filth like yourself, BY.

                  • Baba Yaga

                    So you don’t. Just admit it.

                    • Stuart Munro

                      Fuck off Baba.

                      I know you’re more used to the company of munters who can’t add two and two, but toxic Gnat appointed board members dismissed by the coalition’s new broom are readily identified as haters and wreckers when they go to extraordinary lengths to drum up smears of a minister who is not long in the job.

                      A board appointment is not a life term, but going after the incoming minister in the press guarantees they won’t be considered for another anytime soon.

                    • Baba Yaga

                      As I said. You have no idea about their political affiliation. You come here and spread false claims around like fairy dust. I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve caught you out.

      • Baba Yaga 15.2.4

        “Try Key’s mansion in Hawaii.”

        Jealous much?

        • Stuart Munro

          Not even slightly.

          It’s a well established legal principle that wrongdoers shall not profit from their crimes.

          I had shares in Equiticorp during the period Key lied about.

          He owes a lot of New Zealanders a great deal of money.

          • Baba Yaga

            No, we owe him plenty. Key and his Government steered NZ through a recession (Labour’s recession), a GFC and catastrophic natural events. Our economy performed up with the very best in the OECD, and our reputation grew substantially. Labour are undoing all of that.

            • Stuart Munro

              We owe him a full investigation followed by sequestration of improperly obtained assets and a lengthy prison stay.

              Our economy was faked up by excessive immigration but per capita GDP declined, so it’s fair to say his administration was rubbish. But then the outcome for NZ formed no part of his ambition – he was there to self-enrich at our expense, as a parasite on our democracy.

              • Baba Yaga

                If you have evidence, initiate a judicial review. Put up or shut up.

                “but per capita GDP declined, ”

                “The GDP per Capita in New Zealand is equivalent to 292 percent of the world’s average. GDP per capita in New Zealand averaged 28616.10 USD from 1977 until 2016, reaching an all time high of 36842 USD in 2016 and a record low of 21506.50 USD in 1977.”

                How is GDP per capita tracking now Stuart?

                • Stuart Munro

                  Were I in a position to order a judicial review Baba, that worthless asshole would be in jail already – along with most of his colleagues.

                  “How is GDP per capita tracking now?”

                  We’re in the same morbid flat line, falling with respect to Oz, and likely to show cyclic decline as offshore property sales no longer buoy the $NZ to the same degree.

                  Robertson’s neo-liberal caution will not turn around a decade of irresponsible decisions this term.

                  Rejoice – you and your accomplices have completely fucked our country.

                  • Baba Yaga

                    No-one else has either Stuart. Care to retract you false claim about GDP per capita?

                    • Stuart Munro

                      It’s not false, as you know perfectly well.

                      None of the previous government’s claims of economic competence withstand even the simplest comparison with our trading partners.

                      We’ve gone backwards.

                    • Baba Yaga

                      “It’s not false…”

                      I proved it was false.

                      “The GDP per Capita in New Zealand is equivalent to 292 percent of the world’s average. GDP per capita in New Zealand averaged 28616.10 USD from 1977 until 2016, reaching an all time high of 36842 USD in 2016 and a record low of 21506.50 USD in 1977.”

                      Retract Stuart.

                    • Stuart Munro

                      You didn’t prove shit – and you never do.

                      Pretty soon you’ll run off and hide as usual – no-one believes a word you say – you’ve lied too often.

                    • babayaga

                      “You didn’t prove shit ”

                      So you don’t trust Trading Economics?

                    • babayaga

                      Once more:

                      “…per capita GDP declined…”

                      Shock horror, National is telling fibs about Labour’s Industrial Relations policy

                      “The GDP per Capita in New Zealand is equivalent to 292 percent of the world’s average. GDP per capita in New Zealand averaged 28616.10 USD from 1977 until 2016, reaching an all time high of 36842 USD in 2016 and a record low of 21506.50 USD in 1977.”

                      If GDP per capita reached an ‘all time high’ in 2016, how can it have declined?

                    • Stuart Munro

                      If GDP per capita reached an ‘all time high’ in 2016, how can it have declined?

                      Depends on the comparison doesn’t it. If you measure it in $US then foreign capital inflows will distort the apparent figure upward, if you use Australia as a baseline, their growth will render ours negative.

                      “So you don’t trust Trading Economics?”

                      They’re hardly my go to – and we’re halfway through 2018, they should have more recent numbers.

                    • babayaga

                      “Depends on the comparison doesn’t it. ”

                      No, it really doesn’t. The Trading Economics numbers are reliable. You f(*&’d up.

                    • Stuart Munro


                      You really shouldn’t go all dogmatic on something as inherently flexible as a bunch of statistics.

                      And you have to handle them in such a way as to realize the truth content, not just try to run the temporary value for a few cheap shots.

                      When the NZ dollar is high a $US comparative set of numbers skews the impression of NZ per capita GDP high. When it is compared to our major trading partners the relative efficacy of governance can occasionally be recognized.

                      And the quality of governance over the last decade is frankly rather poor. Nothing to boast of at all.

                      Why can’t you just come clean? All your claims of economic expertise are not borne out in reality. The Gnats were and are utterly useless economic managers, and the numbers prove it.

                      It’s not as if the negative local effects are not everywhere apparent. Homelessness. Poverty. Suicide. Crime. Vice. All the hallmarks of the decay of civilization.

                    • babayaga

                      “You really shouldn’t go all dogmatic on something as inherently flexible as a bunch of statistics.”

                      You really shouldn’t make up bulls&*t and think you can get away with it.

                    • Stuart Munro

                      I don’t think you’re really in a position to lecture me about making up bullshit Baba Yaga.

                      You’ve shown a remarkable proclivity for lying, your objection to me is that I’m telling you the truth.

                    • McFlock

                      Baby yoga doesn’t care who tells the truth. His only desire is to create in his little mind an excuse to gloat. Usually these excuses are imaginary, occasionally they are trivial. Never has one been deserved in reality.

                    • Baba Yaga

                      “I don’t think you’re really in a position to lecture me about making up bullshit Baba Yaga.”

                      Yeah, actually, I am. I’ve caught you out so many times. I admire your stubbornness though.

                    • Baba Yaga

                      “Baby yoga doesn’t care who tells the truth. ”

                      I suspect that you, like Stuart, actually believe the tripe Robbo used to spin about per capita GDP. More Labour lies.

                    • Stuart Munro

                      Actually you almost never catch anyone – your disregard for truth is so overt that most of your arguments fall over before you begin.

                      And this is no exception.

                    • David Mac

                      96% of people believe statistics can be skewed to blow a particular trumpet.

                      I guess I could find out but I’m lazy….I wonder if the capita component of GDP per capita includes the capita that are here on working visas or working illegally.

                    • Baba Yaga

                      “96% of people believe statistics can be skewed to blow a particular trumpet.”

                      You mean just like that statistic?

                    • David Mac

                      86% of people believe you are catching on.

                    • McFlock

                      So the question is now whether yogi is stupid or just has no sense of humour.

                    • babayaga

                      The question is whether or not you got the irony of David using a statistic to claim that “statistics can be skewed to blow a particular trumpet.”

                    • McFlock

                      That’s. The. Joke. You. Fool.

                    • Baba Yaga

                      “That’s. The. Joke. You. Fool.”

                      I know. But good attempt to rescue Stuart.

                    • Wow

                      I guess Baba Yaga doesn’t realise that 63.2% of all statistics are made up on the spot

                    • Baba Yaga

                      …they’re coming out the woodwork today…

                    • Incognito

                      Wow, you seem very confident about that prediction 😉

                    • Stuart Munro

                      You ain’t got shit Baba.

                      None of your blaming changes the fact that our per capita growth under the previous government was risible.

                      Of course the Right have nothing to show and must blame someone – Anyone – else. But it doesn’t make them even a caricature of a good government, for whom maintaining parity with Oz would be, not an aspiration, but a baseline.

                      Nice try though – by troll standards you shine – in the chthonic gloom under your bridge.

        • Brigid

          Jealous of Key?
          You’ve got to be joking. What earthly use is he to mankind or dog? What does he do?
          Does he even read? Can he use tools? Does he have any? Can he fix anything? Does he make anything?
          What a boring life having every thing done for you. No incentive or desire to learn anything.
          Getting his jollies by stroking young girls hair and being so thick and wankerish that it never occurred to him that his advances were not wanted.
          Yuk. Why would they be?

          He just spends his time gambling and increasing his bank balance, and consorting with people who are just as boring and uninteresting as he is.

          Nah fanks

    • Draco T Bastard 15.3

      That’s actually National.

      The nation and the economy have always done better under Labour.

    • patricia bremner 15.4

      BY, Send the bill to yourself, for the current costly ills were caused by your crowd.

    • Tricledrown 15.5

      Babygaga send the bill to SCF or Cera
      Fletcher Fonterra etc.

  16. JustMe 16

    The previous National government – from 2008 through to late 2017 – lived on Cloud Cuckoo-land(aka Planet Key).
    They would boast at Budget times that the economy was strong and everything was just so fine and dandy.
    More than a year ago I was chatting to a woman who works part-time as a receptionist and is on $52k for being a part-timer. She took whatever Bill English(the finance minister of the time)told NZers at a previous Budget as asbolute and questioned Gospel according to St Bill.
    The reality however is what many NZers see on a daily basis eg those who work in hospitals and even those who see homeless people in the streets.
    I am certain National will claim that homelessness was much worse under Labour and today(and quoting Paula Bennett) ‘homelessness is the sign of a growing economy….”
    Really and overall where are the morals and scruples of the NZ National Party MPs when they have to resort to fibbing about one thing or another just to get ‘press attention’?
    MPs no matter what political party they hark to are there in parliament to represent ALL NZers – even those taking industrial action in the form of strikes. For them to claim there were less strikes under the previous National government shows a manipulation of the media(something that the NZ National Party has in its pocket).
    Looking at the track record of John Key when he was prime minister of New Zealand he viewed even those who protested against the TPPA as being “Rent a Protestor’. That shows the shallow mentality of the National Party MPs. At the end of the day(as one would say)they have quickly forgotten who pays their wages and their perks of the job and that is NZ workers.

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    E oku manukura, nga pou haemata o te ngahere. e Piko o Te Mahuri, tera te tipu o te rakau. E tipu, e rea, ka puta, ka ora. Tena koutou katoa.   President Bacow, Provost Garber, Governing Boards and deans, And most importantly, graduates.   In Te Reo Māori, the ...
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  • Further support for eating disorder services
    People battling with eating disorders can expect more support being available with additional funding allocated. In addition to the $15.5 million spent each year, $3.9 million in extra funding over four years has been secured as part of Budget 2022. “This will help increase the capacity of eating disorder services ...
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    20 hours ago
  • New workforce frameworks support improved responses to family violence
    New workforce frameworks launched today will make an important difference to people impacted by family violence by strengthening responses and ensuring services support people’s safety, and long-term healing and wellbeing. “People have long been asking for workforces capable of providing safe, consistent, and effective responses to family violence, in ways ...
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    20 hours ago
  • Govt helps protect shops from ram raids
    The Government is providing further support to help Police protect small businesses affected by a spike in ram raids, Minister of Police Poto Williams says. $6 million from the Proceeds of Crime Fund will be invested in a crime prevention programme to be managed by Police which will include solutions ...
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    23 hours ago
  • New Matariki resources available for schools and kura
    Associate Minister of Education (Māori) Kelvin Davis has today announced 51 education resources that will help bring Mātauranga Māori to life. “Matariki is our first uniquely te ao Māori public holiday and is a time for us to remember the past, celebrate the present, and plan for the future. Matariki ...
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  • Government investing in warm, dry classrooms and new schools and kura
    Budget 2022 has taken capital investment in school property under this Government to $3.6 billion since 2018, Education Minister Chris Hipkins said today. “A further $777m in capital investment means new schools and kura, more classrooms, and includes $219m in capital funding that will go directly to schools over the ...
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    24 hours ago
  • Budget 2022 funding to lower the starting age for bowel screening for Māori and Pacific peoples
    60,000 more people to receive screening each year. Over $36 million across four years to shift the starting age for bowel screening from 60 years old to 50 years old for Māori and Pacific people. Associate Ministers of Health Peeni Henare and Aupito William Sio say Budget 2022 will ...
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  • Budget 2022 delivers new investment in our Māori and Pacific health workforce
    Budget 2022 will deliver 1900 new health workers and will support 2700 more students into training programmes through a $76 million investment to continue to grow the health workforce for our Māori and Pacific communities, Associate Ministers of Health Peeni Henare and Aupito William Sio announced today. “This Budget specifically ...
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  • Startup Advisors Council appointed
    The Government has appointed a Startup Advisors’ Council to help identify and address the opportunities and challenges facing high growth start-up businesses, Research, Science, and Innovation Minister Megan Woods, and Economic and Regional Development Minister Stuart Nash have announced. “Startups are major contributors to the knowledge and innovation that we ...
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  • Government targets innovation-led growth to turbo-charge business potential
    Hundreds of New Zealand companies are set to benefit from the launch of two new grants aimed at fuelling firms that want to innovate, Research, Science and Innovation Minister Megan Woods says. “This $250 million investment over the next four years is a sign of my commitment to some of ...
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  • Budget 2022 bolsters legal aid, ensures continued access to justice
    New Zealand’s legal aid scheme will be significantly strengthened with further investment from Budget 2022, Minister of Justice Kris Faafoi announced today. “Budget 2022 will help around 93,000 more people be eligible for legal aid from January 2023, fulfilling our election promise to make improvements to our court system so ...
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  • Positioning the Māori media sector for the future
    Investing in the Māori media sector over the next two years will support the industry while it transitions to a new public media environment, Minister for Māori Development Willie Jackson announced today. “By capturing and sharing local stories and innovative Māori content with New Zealand audiences, across a range of ...
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  • Rollout of cameras on fishing vessels to begin
    The Government has today confirmed key details of the nationwide rollout of cameras on commercial fishing vessels. Up to 300 inshore fishing vessels will be fitted with the technology by the end of 2024, providing independent, accurate information about fishing activity and better evidence for decision-making,” Oceans and Fisheries Minister ...
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    2 days ago
  • Speech for TRENZ Hui 2022: “Ready to Welcome”
    It is my pleasure to be here at TRENZ 2022. This is an event that continues to facilitate connection, collaboration and engagement between our businesses and key overseas markets. The conversations that happen here will play a crucial role in shaping New Zealand’s tourism recovery. That’s why TRENZ remains such ...
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  • Boosting the Māori economy through Progressive Procurement
    Māori businesses will play a vital role to help lift whānau Māori aspirations and dreams for a better life, while reinforcing New Zealand’s economic security. A successful Progressive Procurement initiative to diversify government spend on goods and services and increase Māori business engagement with government procurement is getting a further ...
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    2 days ago
  • Continuing to improve Māori employment outcomes through Cadetships
    The continued Budget 22 investment into the Cadetship programmes will ensure Māori thrive in the labour market, Minister for Māori Development Willie Jackson announced today. The Government will invest $25 million into the Cadetships programme, delivered by Te Puni Kōkiri. As the whole world struggles with rising inflation, the Government’s ...
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  • NZ committed to enduring partnership with Solomon Islands
    Foreign Minister Nanaia Mahuta and Minister of Defence Peeni Henare today announced the extension of the New Zealand Defence Force (NZDF) deployment to Solomon Islands, as part of the Pacific-led Solomon Islands International Assistance Force (SIAF). “Aotearoa New Zealand and Solomon Islands have an enduring and long-standing partnership,” Nanaia Mahuta said. ...
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  • NZ commits to enduring partnership with Solomon Islands
    Foreign Minister Nanaia Mahuta and Minister of Defence Peeni Henare today announced the extension of the New Zealand Defence Force (NZDF) deployment to Solomon Islands, as part of the Pacific-led Solomon Islands International Assistance Force (SIAF). “Aotearoa New Zealand and Solomon Islands have an enduring and long-standing partnership,” Nanaia Mahuta said. ...
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  • New Zealand Country Statement to the Seventy-fifth World Health Assembly, Geneva
    Director-General, esteemed fellow Ministers, and colleagues, tēnā koutou katoa. Greetings to all. Aotearoa New Zealand is alarmed at the catastrophic and complex health crisis evolving in Ukraine. We reiterate our call for an immediate end to Russian hostilities against Ukraine. Chair, this 75th Session of the World Health Assembly comes at ...
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  • Passport fees to increase from 25 May
    As part of a regular review by the Department of Internal Affairs, the fees for New Zealand passports will increase slightly due to the decrease in demand caused by COVID-19. Internal Affairs Minister Jan Tinetti says that the Government has made every effort to keep the increase to a minimum ...
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    2 days ago
  • Additional government support for Buller District flood recovery
    The Government is providing additional support to the Buller District Council to assist the recovery from the February 2022 floods, Minister for Emergency Management Kiri Allan announced today. “The Buller District has experienced two significant floods in short succession, resulting in significant impacts for the community and for Council to ...
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  • Government investment boosts coastal shipping in Aotearoa
    New Zealand is a step closer to a more resilient, competitive, and sustainable coastal shipping sector following the selection of preferred suppliers for new and enhanced coastal shipping services, Transport Minister Michael Wood has announced today.  “Coastal shipping is a small but important part of the New Zealand freight system, ...
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  • Speech on RM Reform to the Thomson Reuters Environmental Law and Policy Conference: 24 May 2022
    Tēnā koutou katoa It’s a pleasure to speak to you today on how we are tracking with the resource management reforms. It is timely, given that in last week’s Budget the Government announced significant funding to ensure an efficient transition to the future resource management system. There is broad consensus ...
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    3 days ago
  • Vision for Māori success in tertiary education takes another step
    Education Minister Chris Hipkins and Associate Education Minister Kelvin Davis have welcomed the release of a paper from independent advisory group, Taumata Aronui, outlining the group’s vision for Māori success in the tertiary education system. “Manu Kōkiri – Māori Success and Tertiary Education: Towards a Comprehensive Vision – is the ...
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  • Whānau Resilience focuses on wāhine and rangatahi
    The best way to have economic security in New Zealand is by investing in wāhine and our rangatahi says Minister for Māori Development. Budget 2022, is allocating $28.5 million over the next two years to strengthen whānau resilience through developing leadership within key cohorts of whānau leaders, wāhine and rangatahi ...
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  • Increase in funding secures future for Whānau Ora
    Whānau Ora Commissioning Agencies will receive $166.5 million over four years to help whānau maintain and build their resilience as Aotearoa moves forward from COVID-19, Minister for Whānau Ora Peeni Henare announced today. “Whānau Ora Commissioning Agencies and partners will remain a key feature of the Government’s support for whānau ...
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  • Govt invests in sustainable food producer
    The development of sustainable, plant-based foods and meat alternatives is getting new government backing, with investment from a dedicated regional economic development fund. “The investment in Sustainable Foods Ltd  is part of a wider government strategy to develop a low-emissions, highly-skilled economy that responds to global demands,” said Stuart Nash. ...
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  • New Zealand to stay at Orange for now
    With New Zealand expecting to see Omicron cases rise during the winter, the Orange setting remains appropriate for managing this stage of the outbreak, COVID-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins said today. “While daily cases numbers have flattened nationally, they are again beginning to increase in the Northern region and hospitalisation ...
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    3 days ago
  • Independent panel appointed to review electoral law
    Justice Minister Kris Faafoi today announced appointments to the independent panel that will lead a review of New Zealand’s electoral law. “This panel, appointed by an independent panel of experts, aim to make election rules clearer and fairer, to build more trust in the system and better support people to ...
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  • Board appointed for Auckland’s most transformational project
    Honourable Dame Fran Wilde will lead the board overseeing the design and construction of Auckland’s largest, most transformational project of a generation – Auckland Light Rail, which will connect hundreds of thousands of people across the city, Minister of Transport Michael Wood announced today. “Auckland Light Rail is New Zealand’s ...
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    3 days ago
  • Government continues record Māori Education investment
    Boost to Māori Medium property that will improve and redevelop kura, purchase land and build new facilities Scholarships and mentoring to grow and expand the Māori teaching workforce Funding to continue to grow the Māori language The Government’s commitment to the growth and development of te reo Māori has ...
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    3 days ago
  • PM attends Indo-Pacific Economic Framework talks ahead of US travel
    On the eve of Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern’s trade mission to the United States, New Zealand has joined with partner governments from across the Indo-Pacific region to begin the next phase of discussions towards an Indo-Pacific Economic Framework for Prosperity (IPEF). The Framework, initially proposed by US President Biden in ...
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    4 days ago
  • NZ to provide additional deployment to support Ukraine
    As part of New Zealand’s ongoing response to the war in Ukraine, New Zealand is providing further support and personnel to assist Ukraine to defend itself against Russia’s unprovoked and illegal invasion, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announced today. “We have been clear throughout Russia’s assault on Ukraine, that such a ...
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  • Stubbing out tobacco smuggling
    Budget 2022 is providing investment to crackdown on tobacco smuggling into New Zealand. “Customs has seen a significant increase in the smuggling of tobacco products into New Zealand over recent years,” Minister of Customs Meka Whaitiri says. This trend is also showing that tobacco smuggling operations are now often very ...
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  • Prime Minister to visit United States
    Prime Minister to lead trade mission to the United States this week to support export growth and the return of tourists post COVID-19. Business delegation to promote trade and tourism opportunities in New Zealand’s third largest export and visitor market Deliver Harvard University commencement address  Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern ...
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  • Prime Minister congratulates Anthony Albanese
    Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has congratulated Anthony Albanese and the Australian Labor Party on winning the Australian Federal election, and has acknowledged outgoing Prime Minister Scott Morrison. "I spoke to Anthony Albanese early this morning as he was preparing to address his supporters. It was a warm conversation and I’m ...
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  • Poroporoaki: Dame Aroha Reriti-Crofts DNZM CBE JP
    Tiwhatiwha te pō, tiwhatiwha te ao. Tiwhatiwha te pō, tiwhatiwha te ao. Matariki Tapuapua, He roimata ua, he roimata tangata. He roimata e wairurutu nei, e wairurutu nei. Te Māreikura mārohirohi o Ihoa o ngā Mano, takoto Te ringa mākohakoha o Rongo, takoto. Te mātauranga o Tūāhuriri o Ngai Tahu ...
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  • Boost for tourism networks as borders open
    Three core networks within the tourism sector are receiving new investment to gear up for the return of international tourists and business travellers, as the country fully reconnects to the world. “Our wider tourism sector is on the way to recovery. As visitor numbers scale up, our established tourism networks ...
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  • Law changes passed stopping tax evasion on water-pipe tobacco
    The Minister of Customs has welcomed legislation being passed which will prevent millions of dollars in potential tax evasion on water-pipe tobacco products. The Customs and Excise (Tobacco Products) Amendment Act 2022 changes the way excise and excise-equivalent duty is calculated on these tobacco products. Water-pipe tobacco is also known ...
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    7 days ago
  • Government support for Levin community hit by tornado
    The Government is contributing $100,000 to a Mayoral Relief Fund to help the Levin community following this morning’s tornado, Minister for Emergency Management Kiri Allan says. “My thoughts are with everyone who has been impacted by severe weather events in Levin and across the country. “I know the tornado has ...
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