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Shout out to The Standard

Written By: - Date published: 6:50 pm, September 18th, 2014 - 61 comments
Categories: david cunliffe, election 2014, labour - Tags:

A special call to work from David Cunliffe.

If you don’t already have an date with a political party of the left on Saturday, then the best thing you can do is to

  1. Firstly vote left (and maybe Labour).
  2. Find a party that can employ you constructively on Saturday on turning out the vote.

Labour has a pretty good election day organisation (even by my high standards). The Greens have been getting a lot better. I have no idea on Internet Mana (but I’d expect that they’ll say that it is bigger and better 😈 ). They all beat the parties of the right hands down on the ground. Help them out.

I’ll dig out some details about where to volunteer.

BTW: Hey, wasn’t that a nice gesture by David? Unexpected as well. Anyone else?




Note that you don’t have to be a member of a party to help them out on election day. When I was helping to organise it, we’d usually wind up with most of the people helping out as being family members and friends of party members.

Labour campaign is here.

Greens are here.

Internet Mana  are – ok I need some help here.

and for luck..

NZ First are here.

And there is usually a party afterwards as everyone waits for the results. Election day workers are invariably invited. 🙂

61 comments on “Shout out to The Standard”

  1. anker 1

    Will do David.

    And I’ve signed up to phone the punters!

  2. Zolan 2

    Just to emphasise how I read it–
    (1) and (2) don’t have to be the same party. Find where you can do the most good.

    • lprent 2.1

      Yes of course.

      I voted last weekend for the Greens (party vote) as per my decision back in 2012, and for (ironically) David Shearer of Labour for the electorate vote.

      But whoever you vote for on the left, get out and help people to get to the polling booths. Especially those with a history of not voting. If you don’t have a list of recalcitrant relatives and friends, then go work for a left party.

  3. weka 4

    “Find a party that can employ you constructively on Saturday on turning out the vote.”

    What is being done? What are the limitations (eg no advertising)?

    • Colonial Viper 4.1

      Parties need scrutineers at voting booths, they need people door knocking (you are allowed to remind people to vote, not tell them who to vote for), help transport voters to and from booths, check off lists, enter data etc.

      • weka 4.1.1

        cheers. Was there anything more about the problems with advance voting in Auckland? Are there scrutineers at the advance voting booths?

    • lprent 4.2

      They have even started to frown on rosettes. Usually what you do is either ring or doorknock people and remind them to vote.

      The trick is in knowing who to door knock or phone because there are only so many volunteers.

      There is also a need for people to observe at the polling booths for parties. This is to make sure that any nasty tricks by voters, other observers, parties, or even the polling staff are reported. It is a good task for those who don’t want to walk the streets. And they feed you as well.

      • weka 4.2.1

        ok, ta. My problem is that pretty much everyone I know is voting and the few that aren’t do so intentionally for political reasons so there’s no talking to them. Will ask around re the parties.

  4. alwyn 5

    No one can say that Labour don’t try to appeal to everyone in New Zealand.
    Every time you look at WhaleOil you see an ad for Labour.
    I’m not really sure it is a great use of the little money they have but it will help keep Cameron going.

    • lprent 5.1

      Well with his inflated ego and the life style that goes with it, he will need the money more than we do 🙂

      Mind you from what I hear Blomfield seems likely to take it all away from him..

      • alwyn 5.1.1

        A man with a sense of humour, even at this late stage in the campaign.
        Actually I have been most impressed with your tolerance of stirrers this election. I was expecting to have been banned at some stage, like last time.

        • lprent

          There have been a lot of bans over the last 6 months. However I managed my irritation levels by banning people behaving badly until after the election. It worked in many ways.

          The worst offenders disappeared, others moderated their behavior, and I and other moderators were less irritated and less likely to ban because of irritation of repeat offenders. Much more pleasant all round. I am sure that the banned found other places to try their behaviors on…

          Good thing too. Comments are about 4x 2011 and page views are double.

    • mickysavage 5.2

      It is the trouble with syndicated google ad feeds. Greens had the same problem. Steps are being taken as we speak …

      • alwyn 5.2.1

        Yes, it seems to bite everyone and I am quite sure it wasn’t intentional.
        I couldn’t help thinking it was funny though.
        I went there to see whether, as google seemed to be saying, there were pre-publication numbers for the Herald Poll due tomorrow. There were only the ones for a couple of minor parties but it was a surprise to see, at the top of the screen, a Labour Party ad.

  5. b waghorn 6

    The only thing I can do is say the only time of been in Auckland for a election was in 1984 and buy unplanned coincedence I’ll be there again this Sat so hope that’s a good omen.

  6. Binders full of women 7

    Onya David!
    BTW if anyone shares David’s optimism.. tomwaterhouse.com are currently offering $6 (six!) for a Labour PM and a mere $1.10 for a National PM. Shit if David put $1,000 on Winston he would get $51,000 (there isn’t a Winston option but ‘other’ is paying $51). I am a bit tempted to put $15 on DC.

    • alwyn 7.1

      You would actually do better on Ipredict for these wagers wouldn’t you?
      The pick that there will be a Labour PM is at 15c which implies $6.67. National is at 85c which is better than $1.10 also. It must also be easier to bet there than with an Australian bookie.
      Incidentally Ipredict betters seem to think there is twice the chance that Winston would support National than Labour.

      • Binders full of women 7.1.1

        Thanks… I just don’t understand stocks (other than my Mighty Rivers have gone down) and how you did the conversion… and too lazy to calculate it or take the tutorial.. do all stocks sell for $1? The tomwaterhouse odds are easy to follow for a sports junkie like myself…

  7. AsleepWhileWalking 8

    I like it!

  8. Weepus beard 9

    Hi Lyn. I am a professional photographer and have wanted to contribute to the Labour movement in some way.

    I am particularly interested in the reports that many working and non working families are sleeping in garages and cars and on the sofas of family members. I’d like to explore that in a photojournalist style.

    I’m no use this time around except for my vote but I’d like to find an avenue to tell the Labour story in pictures in the future, win or lose.

    • lprent 9.1

      I don’t work much with Labour these days. Work, a certain blog, and a namesake chew up too much time. However remind me *after* the election and I will push your email to people who will be interested both in politics and without.

      • Weepus beard 9.1.1

        That would be good thanks. I’d like to be able to make a proposal to a body who might be able to develop access to the many people who are really struggling. I think there is a story to be told there and the people who are living it are not able to speak.

    • halfcrown 9.2

      Good on Ya, Weepus.
      As far as I am concerned that would be an excellent project. This would hopefully bring it to the attention of the poverty denier’s out there.
      I feel a few public exhibitions would not go a miss in Foyer’s of places like the Hilton, the National party head quarters etc, so the fat cats could not miss seeing your photography as they enter or leave the premises. Also good photography should always be on show, and I am sure yours will be first class.

      Please keep us posted via The Standard on that one, as I will be interested in your work.

  9. Alistair Connor 10

    I was always a bit suspicious of David, since he was first selected in Titirangi. My mum always sang his praises. Well, she would, she was on his LEC. But then he turned up at Mum’s funeral in May, which was … unexpected, and very decent of him.

    That’s not my only element of analysis, of course, but a confirmation. He’s a careful triangulator: that seems to be in the job description; but his underlying instincts are sound, he should listen to them more often.

  10. Brian 11

    David looks more the PM every day. He will win and he WILL be great in the job.
    A new, positive direction for the country. Bring it on!!

  11. Craig Glen Eden 12

    Dc is a great block he will be a great PM and I think with some good support from some able Green ministers he could actually lead a progressive Government.

  12. mickysavage 13

    I spoke to a formerly National voter today who said that six weeks she could not stand Cunliffe. National’s assault on him this year working well. Now she is impressed by him after seeing what he is really like. It may be a shame the campaign was not longer and had less distractions …

    • Rodel 13.1

      My sister and niece who lean toward National went to listen to David Cunliffe speaking in Nelson. They were impressed by his honesty and modesty and said they will now vote Labour.

    • weka 13.2

      I’ve been trying to imagine what the campaign would have been like without Hager’s book or Greenwald and co.

      • Weepus beard 13.2.1

        Hager’s book and Greenwald and co. are vital and legitimate. In our fast changing world this information is valuable.

        To want that information not to come out is the same as applauding the National party and copyright infringing rowing eight gliding over smooth waters with not a care in the world.

        Yes, David Cunliffe is, like all of us, a spectator watching this dirty National government do its black ops business but he has stuck to his peoples’ message and stayed positive and confident.

        • weka

          Are you suggesting I didn’t want the information to come out? If so you are wrong and misunderstanding my comment.

          • Weepus beard

            No mate, I guess I’m not. Just that it’s all been done now and the Labour campaign and the Green campaign have to deal with the chips as they fall.

            As has been discussed, this is the very dirtiest election ever and I am happy about that because win or lose for a Labour lead government or opposition the microscope will be on our representatives for a while yet.

      • mac1 13.2.2

        Weka, we saw that campaign locally with a new nat candidate practising John Key politics with an attractive smile, no policy, an attack on the Left with his first sentence and a well-practised one liner to finish. No substance, no original ideas, just a smug, arrogant, born-to-rule new MP in waiting.

        Till 2017.

        Or later.

        • weka

          Yes, it might have been a tedium of National smile and wave and the MSM harassing Cunliffe 🙁

    • BM 13.3

      My cat who’s never voted at all, saw David Cunnliffe once and said,
      “There’s something about they guy I can really relate to, If I can raise the energy to get off the couch, he’s got my vote.”

      It’s going to be tight.

  13. Dont worry. Be happy 14

    Worrying about ACT getting in via Clutha. Ex Fed Farmer Pres standing there against the tobacco grovelist who is pretty woeful. Will have to contemplate my handle more….

  14. Sable 15

    Good luck to Internet Mana, the Greens and NZ First. One of you will get my vote. Its nice to have some good choices.

  15. Saarbo 16

    Spent the day yesterday dropping leaflets in our awesome little town, met heaps of friendly people who were all positive including the wife of the local head of the mongrel mob, pretty sure they’ll vote red. Anyway, getting stuck in on Saturday phoning, visiting and driving! We’ll give it our best shot!

  16. Weepus beard 17

    I have to do a Special vote. I think it’s because I moved and then re-registered via RealMe online, and too late for the role, rather than fill out the paper forms.

    Win for me, I can vote but do not appear on the role.

  17. weka 18

    What’s happening to the standard on Sat up until 7pm? Will comments be disabled or in premoderation?

  18. Guesting 19

    An apolitical immigrant today told me she had thought of voting ACT because they had a Chinese person promoting the Party on the hoarding (Epsom/Maugakiekie). I asked her to reconsider, citing their policy of arming shopkeepers.

    I truly hope policies are penetrating the apolitical ESOL immigrant group. Given my anecdote, I am not hopeful.

  19. Potato 20

    That was nice of David. Looking forward to his winners speech on Saturday night.

  20. Thinker 21

    Sorry to go on a tangent, but could anyone please provide:

    – the marginal seats this election, and

    – the indicator seats this election?

    I can’t find any reference online.

    Thanks for your help.

    • Pasupial 21.1


      This post by the Jackal has a list of candidates for all 71 electorate seats (it’s not stated, but I surmise that the names in bold are the incumbents):


      As for marginal & indicator seats, that varies depending on who you listen to. Ipredict has probabilities for each seat, but I won’t link to them as they are so susceptible to being gamed.

      Vital electorate seats in 2014:
      Te Tai Tokerau for IMP (& Waiariki as a possibility).
      Epsom for ACT (with Clutha-Southland as a distant possibility);
      Ōhāriu for UF;
      East-Coast Bays for CP;
      Waiariki for Māori Party (or possibly Ikaroa-Rāwhiti if IMP & Labour split the left vote and Marama Fox slips through on the right);
      Auckland Central may be important to get Ardern back in for Labour if their party vote collapses. She is one of many LP candidates who have gone list only (Parker, Mallard & Curran also spring to mind).
      National are likely to lose a few electorate seats, but with a 40-something% party vote that won’t have much impact on their parliamentary proportion. Clutha-Southland, Epsom & East-coast Bays are the three seats where a progressive voter should electorate vote National.

      An intriguing possibility is that Labour will get more electorate seats than party votes leading to an overhang in parliament. It would have been good strategy to have used this to the left’s advantage by encouraging a party vote for GP or IMP, and electorate vote for Labour. This is what I did; even though I despise David Clark, I loathe Michael Woodhouse – so I held my nose and voted for DC in Dn Nth & gave IMPs my party vote, even though I would have preferred Turei or Stewart.

      Unfortunately Labour’s decision to; not affirm, only deny, potential coalition partners has rather spoiled the likelihood of this.

  21. Pasupial 22

    Internet Party volunteers could contact:



    If you are in Dunedin North try; rjs@internet.org.nz, or; alp@internet.org.nz, for Dunedin South.

    Also MANA:


  22. One Anonymous Bloke 23

    Think how previous leaders rejected social media. “We don’t read blogs” etc…

    In part I suspect they were driven by the knowledge that engagement with activists can be spun as “moving to the far left”, and risk averse.

    David Cunliffe’s confidence is refreshing and very welcome in this quarter.

    Thanks for the shout out DC 🙂

  23. Rodel 24

    ‘David Cunliffe’s confidence is refreshing and very welcome in this quarter.’
    Nice statement! Must tell my friends.

  24. Rodel 25

    Great full page photo of the Conservatives in today’s newspapers.

    My Gawd what a strange lot of ‘right wing weirdos! (Thanks for that quote DC) – Rankin looks like Dame Edna beside the Craig possum in the headlights.

    Would be funny if it weren’t for the fact that their ideas are as weird as their photos.

  25. Enough is Enough 26

    Up against the most corrupt, dirtiest and self serving government in history, David Cunliffe is leading the main opposition party to probably its worst election result in history.

    That maybe because of the relative clear direction and strength of the Green policy platform.

    Whatever it is, I am in a pretty dark place at the moment thinking about what could and should have been.

    Here’s hoping the polls are all wrong and the blind optimism of some around here is warranted.

    • Awww 26.1

      Polls have been wrong before. That’s what I keep telling myself b/c I’m feeling depressed at the prospect of what might happen tomorrow.

  26. tanz 27

    How does NZ First fit in though? Winston is an ex National MP, I thought.

  27. exkiwiforces 28

    Voted two weeks ago while I was Darwin for the day a 700km round trip to the polling station. I have spit my vote again my local vote went to young Megan woods and my list vote went to winne as I wasn’t happy the way Labour was campaign in this election sorry Tim. Yes I was in NZ about 4 to 5 weeks ago for grandmother’s funeral who was a Labour member from Blackball to Nelson.

    Give them hell tomorrow and kick these assholes out

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