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Strewth, Aussie Government loses majority

Written By: - Date published: 4:53 pm, October 27th, 2017 - 51 comments
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This will teach the LibNats to attack Jacinda and Labour. Deputy Prime Minister Baranaby Joyce, who had been nominated for the kiwi of the year award, has been declared ineligible to be elected to the Australian Parliament because he is a kiwi. And so his fate will be decided in a by election. I understand that he has renounced his New Zealand citizenship so is again eligible to stand but you would think that after the number of Section 44 issues the Australian Parliament has had he would have been more careful.

Another 5 MPs have been declared to be ineligible, including 2 Green senators who had the decency to resign when their situation was first discovered, a One Nation senator, a National party senator and a LibNat senator.

The Government will be wanting the by election, scheduled for December 2, 2017 to be completed as soon as possible. He represented the seat of New England which appears to be very safe but by elections are funny things.  In the meantime Labor will want a vote of confidence to be held.

But serves him right.  It is funny that the so called lucky country which is meant to be a home to all races and ethnicities should have such a provision in its constitution.  But after Manus Island and the way this government has treated kiwis this Government deserves all the chaos this provision is causing.

51 comments on “Strewth, Aussie Government loses majority ”

  1. Ad 1

    Ha!!

    Awesome week!

  2. BM 2

    That’s really fucked NZ/AUS relations.

    Thanks, Labour.

    • Tracey 2.1

      I am tempted to start calling you Puddle. It is already totally fucked and one sided… you like your govts illegally constituted do you BM? Once the first people started getting rumbled Joyce would have known and coubted on a system not picking him up. Classy.

      In any event it wasnt chippy it was Aussie media. At some point in your life read some facts.

    • mickysavage 2.2

      Now you are trolling …

      • BM 2.2.1

        Ths is the guy Hipkins was asking questions about?, combine that with Arderns stance on Australians and university fees, I’d say while the Liberals remain in power the relationship between NZ/OZ will be frosty at best.

        • mickysavage 2.2.1.1

          Simple question. Show how Hipkins asking a generic question caused Joyce to lose his seat.

          And it is the Aussie decisions that are wrecking the relationship. Their treatment of the kiwis who breached their immigration rules was appalling. And their treatment of the refugees was even worse.

          • tracey 2.2.1.1.1

            BM has gone off the rails since he wanted Greens to prop up his team and they refused…

          • BM 2.2.1.1.2

            It demonstrated he was willing to undermine the current Australian government.

            I’d say life may start to get a bit tougher for those 650,000 kiwis living in Australia.

        • tracey 2.2.1.2

          You mean Australias stance of treating kiwis as International students … and the Oz media admitted it was them not Chippy…

          Yeah Under National… more recently Brownlee we have just been Noddy to Oz Big Ears.

    • Andre 2.3

      If only someone had thought of it earlier…

    • cleangreen 2.4

      BM=”Bloody Mindless”

      That suits you.

  3. tracey 3

    Labor claim to have legal advice that decisions made after he knew he was ineligible were ultra vires…

    He will most likely win back his seat but Labour are NOT offering a pair in the interim.

  4. Bill 4

    Hmm. This “need to be a national” malarky doesn’t sit well. And Micky, re your last para, I believe the situation is exactly the same here. So, for example (and god forbid, shoot me or section me) I couldn’t stand in NZ parliamentary elections.

    • Andre 4.1

      Looks like it’s a bit different here. Seems you can be a dual national and still get elected to parliament. But once you’re elected you can’t then take out citizenship in another country.

      https://teara.govt.nz/en/photograph/921/citizenship-of-members-of-parliament

      • weka 4.1.1

        That’s how I understand it too. To stand for parliament in NZ you have to have NZ citizenship, and in NZ you can hold dual citizenship but that doesn’t prevent you from standing for parliament. In Oz, you can have dual citizenship but if you want to stand for parliament you have to give up your non-Australian citizenship.

        The main problem I see with the NZ situation is the issue of how much it costs to get citizenship.

        • Andre 4.1.1.1

          It appears that if you were a permanent resident before 1975, then you can become an MP without NZ citizenship. Unless they’ve changed the rules since Matt Robson.

          “Despite having achieved high political office in New Zealand, Robson did not become a naturalised citizen until 2000. Under the terms of New Zealand’s Electoral Act 1993, anyone permanently resident before August 1975 has the right to vote and stand for election.”

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Robson

          • Macro 4.1.1.1.1

            A hang over of our colonial status – think of all those Brit immigrants – they didn’t renounce their UK citizenship nor become NZ citizens. Neither of my parents who immigrated from the UK in the 1920’s held a passport.

            • marty mars 4.1.1.1.1.1

              This is a question so I hope people don’t get upset

              Citizen
              Resident

              How can people living here without being citizens even get to vote? I dont understand the rationale. If someone could put a link of why this is i’d appreciate it. I’ve got friends becoming citizens now who delight in it. My father was English and eventually, I think, became a citizen. Is it the colonial mindset of seeing this place as a colony of the motherland or a way to retain heritage? I just don’t know the rationale.

              • Andre

                I suspect it’s another one of those colonial hangovers. It’s never become much of a political issue so it has never been brought into line with what almost all of the rest of the world does.

                Gotta say, I voted in two elections before I got my NZ citizenship and it felt really weird to me.

              • Macro

                I’m no expert on this so could be completely wrong, but as I understand it technically NZ is still a colony of the UK. The Status of Dominion implies we set our own rules and have our own Parliament but we still go to the Governor General for the warrant from the Queen to form our Parliament. Our armed forces are Royal (well Navy and Airforce anyway – which is a bit of a snub to the Army – but even the Brit Army is not Royal) ie the allegiance is to the Sovereign. My Naval parchment commission is signed by the Governor General, and is a commission granted by the Queen.
                It’s a vague area of constitutional law. But we are still part of the British Commonwealth – so the Queen is still our titular head of state – and will remain so until such time as we become a republic.

                • cleangreen

                  Very true Macro,

                  Also the passport claims we are “British subjects” which I actually like to be.
                  We may toss all those silly trade agreemaents out the dor and restart the “British Commonwealth” again as it is a far better arrangement than these coporate models are today.

                  Worth a thought to leave “our options” there if we decide to chuck the other trade agreements out.

      • Bill 4.1.2

        Ah. My bad. So not exactly the same. But still…

  5. exkiwiforces 5

    Holy Shit, I better put the telly on and crack a beer open!!

    It’s going to make reading tomorrow’s Oz interesting, but then again I think the NT News might a safer bet.

  6. exkiwiforces 6

    Tony Windsor has confirm he isn’t running for the federal seat of New England in the By-election on the 2 Dec.

    From 24 ABC News

  7. One Anonymous Bloke 7

    Right wing bigots make nationalist legislation. It turns around and ruins their day. I can’t decide between schadenfreude and pity.

  8. cleangreen 8

    Circus of comedies over there eh?

    Makes our new Govenment look very smart now doesnt it just.

    yes lets do this jacinda, let’s clean out the bee hive of those pesky national hornets from our newly cleaned beehive eh?

    Let us purge the agencies of those National ‘Cling-on’s that acted friendly to us lefties bt are just “slepper cells” waiting for the National ‘call to arms’.

    All agencies such as NZTA, Ministry of Transport, Environment, Treasury, MSD, Health housing, and public broadcasting and totally seperate again all the other agencies placed under Steven Joyce as schemed to put them together to hightly control them all under his former Propaganda agency he called MBIE “Ministry of bussiness Inivation & Employment” as this was the most corrupted agency of all.

    Let’s do this.

    • Exkiwiforces 8.1

      Yes it is bloody Circus, it’s like watching something from Yes Minster or something like a John Clarke inspired comedy series and the letters to the editor in Australia last weekend saying the New Zealand’s MMP was a circus well they need to have look in their front yard now.

      As I said earlier, it’s going to make for some interesting reading in tomorrow’s Oz paper when I grab morning cuppa at the Newsagents.

  9. Stunned mullet 9

    From outside this law does seem a bit daft for such a young country but I suspect there will be similar laws in place in many countries around the world.

    What was also daft was Chris Hipkins behaviour which under Helen would have seen him demoted down the ranks so fast his head would’ve been spinning if indeed it could even have occurred under H1 and H2.

  10. D'Esterre 10

    “but by elections are funny things.”
    That’s certainly true here. But not necessarily in Oz, it seems.
    One of my relatives, who’s an Oz citizen and takes an interest in politics, said this: “New England has been a national seat apart from the Tony Windsor years practically since federation. Not worth Labor spending money. Save it for the winnable contests.”
    As exkiwiforces has noted above, Windsor’s confirmed he won’t be standing.
    All very odd, in my view, especially compared to what happens here. I pointed out to said relative that a by-election was how Winston nabbed Northland after the 2014 election.
    Oz Labor should chance its arm on this one; I’d expect no less of NZ Labour in a similar situation.

  11. Mr Tank 11

    Look up Tony Windsor and then tell me Barnaby’s a dead cert! This by-election is going to be vicious…enjoy!

  12. D'Esterre 12

    Mr Tank: “This by-election is going to be vicious”

    What sort of a by-election will it be if there are no other candidates standing against Joyce?

    • cleangreen 12.1

      Poor old Barnaby has a very tricky sirname, and that may cause some issues as the infamous ‘Joyce’ we have over here, has made an arse of his National party and made a laughing stock of this country.

      So Barnaby may choose to change his sirname now as that name Joyce has been infamous for generations since “Lord Haw Haw” or otherwise known as ‘William Joyce” defected to Germany during the war from England to become the third Reich’s propaganda broadcasting ‘english speaking’ trumpet.

      He wrote a book called “Twylight over England” as a slag off to England.

      http://s3.spanglefish.com/s/35849/documents/twilight-over-england.pdf

      William Joyce was caught in 1945 by a british soldier trying to flee in the German forests.

      Then after a trial he was hung at Wandsworth prison in England in 1946, but his second wife (Margret) was pardoned and there was some discussion that a NZ man that was a close friend of Willliam Joyce may have bought her to NZ after the war.

      Joyce is an Irish famly name and relatives here in NZ/Australia may be related, so Barnaby and Steven Joyce could possibly be related also.

    • Exkiwiforces 12.2

      This mornings Weekend Australian newspaper is saying that the Shooters, Fishers and Farmers Party are looking at standing a candidate. This party won the NSW State seat of Orange a couple of mths ago and within 3% of winning another State seat of Murray.

      The red head/ cougar from Ipswich is refusing to say weather they would run candidate in New England atm.

      Also there is a rumour that a Ex Nationals member and current Tamworth councillor Mark Rodda might as a Inpendnet.

      The former senator from the red head/ cougar party, Malcolm Roberts is going to standing in Qld State elections in the seat of Ipswich which is Qld Labor’s safest seats, bearing in mind a number of seats around the Ipswich area in the last state election they did give the Qld Labor and Qld LNP a run for their money.

      Being a Ex resident of the Ipswich and the state seat of Lockery for 10yrs. They are a little bit strange mob out there when you throw in some very old school Labor and some farm cockies into the mix. The single ladies out there were very scary, but’s another story.

  13. Angel Fish 13

    AUS govt is acting like a typical boorish bully,
    NZ govt should not apologise for standing up for it’s own interest.
    AUS thinks it can push us around. Disgusting.

    • tracey 13.1

      You can see why though. Nats rolled over for 9 years so why would they think we are not pushovers?

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