Stupid myths on immigrant construction workers

Written By: - Date published: 9:16 am, September 8th, 2017 - 31 comments
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One of the dafter myths about the current burgeoning immigration industry is what people are being imported for. For instance, a common one is that we need skilled immigrants for the construction industry and this is a reason to keep immigration high. The following is a pretty typical quote by one of the numerically illiterate morons of the right (I have left in some of the context):-

On Wednesday, Little said the party would “reduce immigration numbers, [and] better match migrants with the skills our industries need” without giving details.

Act leader David Seymour questioned where the Opposition would make the cuts, with close to 9000 of the arrivals coming for construction related roles, at a time of housing shortage.

“[I]f they won’t cut construction workers, how will they keep their promises to cut immigration by 45,000 or more?,” Seymour said.

Which is just more Billshit, or in this case – just ignorant shit from Bill’s Act Rimmer sockpuppet back in April… The number doesn’t match up with anything. Just like Gower’s 56 thousand construction workers in the debate the other night.

Sure we could do with them. But we aren’t currently getting them. And those we do get or would have gotten are likely to be starting to eye up the reconstruction bonanza in the US after this climate change driven hurricane season of devastating hurricanes.

Brian Fallow has an interesting analysis of the breakdown of immigration figures in the NZ Herald this morning in Home building hits a roadblock.

As labour is one of those key constraints, it is instructive to look at what contribution immigration has been making to the supply of tradesmen.

Spoiler alert: it is not encouraging.

In the year to June 2016, New Zealand issued 193,000 work visas, the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment reports. This does not include 91,000 student visas which confer some limited work rights.

Of the 193,000 work visas, only a sixth (32,000) were in the essential skills category. The rest were to people on working holidays, family members, people in a transitional study-to-work category and seasonal workers for the horticulture sector.

Of the 32,000 people granted visas under the essential skills category, only one in four were first-timers. The rest were temporary migrants already here. So it is not a case of 32,000 people being added to the skilled workforce that year.

And a startlingly low proportion – 7 per cent, or 2233 to be precise – were classified as construction trades workers like carpenters, plumbers, plasterers, tilers and painters. If you include scaffolders and builders’ labourers, the proportion rises to nearly 10 per cent.

If they are typical of essential skills work visa recipients generally, only 800 were not already in the country.

The 2015-16 year was not an aberration. The proportions were similar in the two previous years.

The conclusion has to be that the impact of net migration flows on the housing market and the construction industry is overwhelmingly on the demand, not the supply, side.

Think about that. The biggest single infrastructure issue right now is in construction. That is because for the last 4 years National has been running our nett migration on policy settings that has culminated in 72 thousand nett inwards migration per year compared to a long term average over the past few decades of seldom reaching 20 thousand nett inwards migration. See the chart.

This inwards stream of people, especially in Auckland where the majority end up, has led to a flooded infrastructure on the the housing, roads, schools, and rapidly rising prices. It means that right now the view from my apartment looks like a crane convention – I can see 15 out of one window. That is something that I haven’t seen since the late 1980s – just about the time of the building crash.

But we have been getting 2 to 3 thousand skilled construction workers from that flood of migration. So who is working around those cranes? After all as Brian Fallow points out

Labour market statistics tell a more cheerful story. The June household labour force survey found that the number of people employed in the construction sector rose 17,900 or 8.2 per cent in the year to June.

At a guess I would say that most of our new construction workers are kiwis, not migrants. But that the industry is in at least part limited by the rate of uptake into those jobs.

Labour’s Kiwibuild category for immigration looks like a good idea. We actually need to compete on the global market for some skills. After all my export based industry in the IT sector is built on them. But even there, the actual numbers arriving in any one year are pretty low – in the low thousands. But even there I get the impression that the policies that the points system has been failing NZ and focusing on the wrong skills. Probably because it is mandated by technically illiterate politicians and their minions who are ignorant on what are skills.

We don’t need people to be rocket scientists to be a good trades person or for that matter to be good at building export software. So the points system actually tends to block a lot of the people that we want to import.

Meanwhile, I’d love to export some of the numerically unskilled like our own version of Rimmer and almost every right wing commenter. They seem to concentrate those who seem to be good at talking and obviously don’t do.

After watching media and especially our comments over the last few years,  I am sure that the fool level has been rising as they flood back here – as their host economies reject them.

I’m sure they could do well in Aussie again. Now could everyone please pray for a revival of their economy.

 

31 comments on “Stupid myths on immigrant construction workers”

  1. ianmac 1

    Jacinda says that they would target immigrant builders to carry out the build. I think she said that about 5,000 would be necessary as well as using our own NZers. From the figures above we imported only about 800 last year. Sounds good to me. Roll on Jacinda!

  2. popexplosion 2

    Migrants need homes, take up work or leave, so spend money in the economy. So I’m perplexed why did a US Senator claim migrant were taking jobs? Are republicans just stupid on economics? Is this why Key cut apprentices numbers and wouldn’t reinstate them after the chch earthquake… …seems stupid is catching amongst conservative types.

    • dukeofurl 2.1

      The migrants in the US situation were those there illegally who take low paying jobs where no questions were asked.
      The US also allows visas for higher computer skills but again they are paid less than the US workers who were doing the same job until the work was outsourced to a company with the business model of using imported workers on visas.

      • popexplosion 2.1.1

        Yet those underpaid serfs are still spending, paying rent, taxes, etc. The point being freeing up US tech workers to startup companies… …the essential stupidity is seeing migrants as net drags. Only lazy people think that migrants are taking their jobs, since opportunity knocks, even more so if they are underpaid since it lowers costs. So why are you sipping on the poor management memes of the right, they are incompetents when it comes to economics. Has the gfs not taught you anything.

        • dukeofurl 2.1.1.1

          ” The point being freeing up US tech workers to startup companies..”

          These are lower to mid level tech jobs who have been there for a while… the startups are bringing higher skilled people as well..because they are cheaper.

          So how is paying a migrant less than a US worker helping the economy. Those Us workers let go from good jobs are forced to take up lower skilled jobs or do the gig economy with insurance or holiday pay or promotions

          No one is saying slam the door shut, its just going back to the more sustainable levels of a few years back. Migrants are far more likely to sponsor other migrants, who dont have much in the way of skills we need.
          I have worked with some recent migrants who seemed to be very aware of ‘retirement housing’ that they mistakenly though was government provided, they were thinking about when they bought their parents to NZ.

          You have this baffling idea that the ‘economy’ is a person. It doesnt help the working population that the overall wage growth and opportunities for people born here are reduced. Any way the growth is illusory as per capita its non existent- NZ especially has exactly that situation.

          We cant kick out citizens but we can reduce inflow of non residents.

          • popexplosion 2.1.1.1.1

            CS skills are in high demand it does not follow the migrant has forced the displaced US employee into a lower paying job, and still so what,
            I. the US culture accepts this risk, I.e it’s unamerician, its how the US becomes the superpower that lowers prices to its people,
            ii. Migrant would be working outside the US in tech, so may still displace worker, drive down USwages, harms buying power of said US worker,

            NZ grows with migrants, it’s one of the stories of incompetence of National.
            They grew dairy but did not consider or care about runoff.
            They grew immigration, dotcom, students, etc but did nothing about housing but whine about RMA and slap themselves about filling stadiums.
            They grew tourism yet shit abounds, alongside over stretched infrastructure.
            Kids displaced to garages, cars, or left in mold homes.

            The right have no idea how to run a economy efficiently.

  3. Good post – sunlight and facts to clear the gnat shitcloud away. Good that kiwis are into construction – we will need that expertise to move the airports and roads as the sea rises and storms become bigger and more frequent.

    Also I remember bill whatisname in the debate saying, “who will pick the kiwifruit?” as if the numbnut can’t remember who used to do it – ffs pay decent money and people will pick the fucken fruit – I’ve done it and my mates have.

  4. Stuart Munro 4

    The thing about skilled construction workers – carpenters, plumbers and electricians – is that they would be accustomed to different standards and also in demand in their own communities. The employer demand is for un or semi-skilled workers who can be paid as unskilled. Same is true for dairy.

    The basic premise to which we need to return is that employers cannot access unskilled foreign workers, no matter what prodigies of dishonesty they perform.

    The use of contracts to avoid NZ minimums should also be looked at – I’d suggest that any foreign contract active in NZ that goes over three months should come under NZ employment law. And that so-called individual contracts can be defaulted back to minimum wages in the event that they did not exceed them.

    • Pat 4.1

      Theres an element of truth in what you say (esp. re unskilled demand) however there are holes being filled by overseas trained sub trades, carpenters fitter/welders up to draughtsmen, project managers and engineers etc……though theres plenty of examples of bogus quals and exploitation.
      The construction required in the immediate future is however going to require a sensible, well designed and enforced immigration element…alongside a public training initiative….which National have ignored for 9 years….imagine how many more capable tradesmen/technicians would be available now if they had started in 2010 (as they were advised)

      • Stuart Munro 4.1.1

        Well pardon my cynicism – but having watched the fishing industry deskilled by the use of migrants, and seeing the same thing happen to dairy and the trades – this is not a slippery slope the left should be going down.

        People can learn pretty quickly if it gets them a pay step – if semi-skilled is what’s needed then we can easily produce that in two years on the job.

        Reaching for immigration as the first or preferred solution should be right off the table until all the rorts have been wound up.

      • David Mac 4.1.2

        I agree Stuart and Pat, our planning for 5 -10 years down the track has been poor. I guess survival prompts governments to work with 3 year bite-size pieces.

        A building boom will create jobs far beyond those doing the building. White goods need selling, delivering, installing and servicing, builder’s utes need oil changes, nurseries will plant more seedlings.

        Current immigration does seem more and more like a solution to a problem we shouldn’t have for the want of a bit of forward planning. The kneejerk method of taking care of our country’s needs.

    • Cricklewood 4.2

      The big problem is actually sits around skilled experienced tradesmen specifically those with experience with NZ techniques and materials.

      There simply are not enough on the ground as there was a massive training gap as a result of the employment contracts act, outsourcing council contracts etc. Essentially apprenticeships dramaticlly reduced in number and we are now seeing the consequences and we are playing catch up.

      The other big issue sits around cost of living in Auckland, any good tradesman is far better off financially to live in the regions. I personally have 5 friends who have left in the last 2 years purely due to cost of living and fact of the matter is they are way better off in real terms given they can buy a house, dont have to sit in traffic etc.

      I dont see how you can attract the volume of tradesman to Auckland in the current enviroment and the industry is dangerously over leveraged as small companies have taken on large contracts beyond their ability to cash flow. Its not pretty out there.

  5. savenz 5

    The housing crisis has been manufactured from the demand side. For every so called construction worker there seems to be 90% of other migrants who are adding to the demand for housing! It’s a ponzi scheme through and through.

    Not only that the government figures apparently underestimate by about 30% at least the amount of new people living here. In the usual screw up, the immigration figures are based on what overseas people announce on their arrival cards – no one seems to be tracking actually what people are doing here once they get here.

    So many overseas people are not working either, they are having children, being educated here, retired or just don’t need to work. NZ is some sort of Ponzi scheme of lifestyle for the more affluent migrants who actually use facilities here and the working age ones go off and work overseas where the jobs and money is better.

    There seems to be an argument by the pro migrant lobby that NZ is so underpopulated that we could easily add millions more people in, no problem just get the locals to pay for more infrastructure to keep it all going, they cite the UK for example, “England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland make up an area of 242,000 square kilometres – ten percent smaller than NZ – yet they manage to fit 63 million people”. ( funny enough never China or India as population density examples, because nobody want to migrate there, and increasingly not the UK either, apparently the UK Indians are a new sector of people trying to migrate to NZ).

    Population density arguments seems to ignore than we live in a planet inhabited by other creatures and living things in an ecosystem that humans also depend on for survival. How many creature still live in the UK, what is the water and air quality like? Is the Thames swimmable, wadable or pristine? What about housing, Grenfell disaster does not seem to feature as an example of a haven of economic and social bliss that high population density arguers describe.

    Are we going to repopulate the Amazon, the Arctic, Africa and Antartica too and destroy their countries biodiversity to that over populated countries can migrate more people there and have more stores and sell more cornflakes in more places of the world?

    What happens to the local people who are ‘less competitive’ in this brave new world, none of this has been made clear? We are creating problems in this country not solving them.

    There has been a huge rise in world population figures as well as the pollution and climate change. There is zero provisioning for this in the NZ construction sector slowly turning out more houses and apartments without any provisioning for the future of this country not fit for purpose in a disaster ridden new world, large and energy inefficient for the most cases, less and less green spaces and with a lot more people to house, educate, medically treat, give disaster relief and give super too.

    Many of the new taxes being proposed discriminate more against locals than those recent migrants with options. Land taxes, capital gains taxes and congestion charges will all hit local workers on local (aka low incomes) more than those who are rich and have the ability to have other family members work offshore who probably already pay little to zero taxes here.

    This is not against migrants many of whom have made NZ a better place, but more a warning that there are consequences to how NZ has gone about it’s Laissez-faire immigration for the last decade and creating future economic, social and environmental problems, which are being swept up under the carpet and minimised.

  6. Pat 6

    lol…your cynicism would receive stiff competition from my own, however after 35 years in the trades (much of it in construction) i can safely say that the deskilling started long before immigration was ever an issue.
    Sadly due to the failings of the past 30 years, accentuated by the current governments incompetence (and the inherent reluctance of private industry to pay for training) we now find ourselves needing to both import labour WHILE training homegrown talents if we are to make any headway in solving this problem

    • David Mac 6.1

      The search for efficiency forces diminishing multi-skilling, we are becoming specialists, the playing field ever tilting towards specialisation. Not so long ago the same contractor dug and laid the drains, ran the internal pipes and put on the roof.

      I think we’ll see more of this. A worker can become a useful team player in a house framing gang or roofing crew much quicker than he/she would in a traditional apprenticeship setting.

      Mechanics used to do the lot, now we go to the air cond guy, brake guy or transmission guy. I don’t think this is necessarily a bad thing, when it comes to ramping up a mega build, it’s probably a good thing.

      • Pat 6.1.1

        its a great theory that frequently falls down in practice…..its almost an imposed tunnel vision akin to the silo mentality bemoaned of in bureaucracies (private and public)….the end result is diminished quality in the total product.

        • David Mac 6.1.1.1

          Please don’t trust the guy that does your wheel alignments to rebuild your trans Pat. I hear you, pre-drilled roofs, every hole aligning with fresh air etc. With a house, a good roof fit starts with the pouring of the footings.

          There are ways over the hurdles, factory built panels can be made to meet laser sighted accuracy. I think my car would be a less dependable vehicle if it had been built by 1 person rather than 5000.

          • Pat 6.1.1.1.1

            your car wasn’t built by a person at all…and therein lies the issue….when buildings are constructed by robots your quality issues due to specialisation will likely disappear (or at least diminish)…in the meantime human interaction and flaws will continue to play a significant role.
            …and your wheel alignment /trans analogy simply reinforces my point….however Id trust a few old school mechanics i know to do both (and ahead of the so called specialists)….the issue in the autostrade is the capital outlay increasingly required for income streams that don’t support the specialist equipment required, not the training or ability of the human doing the work

            • mikes 6.1.1.1.1.1

              I think wheel alignment is a bad example. Anyone can do a wheel alignment if they can learn to press a few buttons on a machine and bang the inside of a wheel with a hammer….hehehe

      • savenz 6.1.2

        @David Mac, I see the increase of specialists as a bad thing.

        Just to put in a bathroom for example which in the old days used to involved a builder, plumber and electrician nowadays we have labourers, plumbers and electricians, underfloor specialists, cabinet specialists, tilers, stoppers, engineers, waterproofing specialists etc. All these people now require co ordination and can not necessary be at the job when needed. Any delays in any one of the sub contractors affects the time frames of the other contractors, more people are added, accounts people, project manager etc to manage the processes. All these different tradespeople are driving around the roads in their vans from one end of the city to the other increasing congestion. Most of their time is going in traffic!

        A bathroom might take 1 week under the old system of generalists when the builder did most of it, now can easily take 6 weeks and cost 6 x as much with all the inefficiency. Bizarrely the builder has to work harder than before and has more risk as he’s now at the mercy of so many other people on the job. This also increased the insurances, the builder has to get legal advice and keep assets in trusts for the most part in case they get sued. Many tradespeople would prefer a return to the old days as would the consumer. This is why construction costs so much and why nobody can get small jobs done cheaply anymore.

        There is also the idea that the factory manufacturing model can work in social services. Know of one person who works for children in the courts and under the government they have reorganised the family court system to “save money” using a bank like work flow. As the person says, what took 3 days to get urgent court orders now takes 10 days. It’s crazy. People who are fighting for their kids don’t act like they are in a bank and politely queue up, transact and leave – they are angry, emotional and often don’t behave in a rational manner. You can’t make someone withdrawing money the same process as someone who might be losing their kids, but that is how the government thinks everything should be done. The government and their lackeys have zero clue and zero practicality and they don’t save money. They just screw up people’s lives.

        • Mad Plumber 6.1.2.1

          As someone who does more than the odd bathroom I do take issue with some of your comments
          In the old days the selection of fitting was pretty limited with the up market being those Royal blue, Chocolate and Almond Ivory Sanity fitting to name a few. No tiled showers and the odd heated floor.
          Today I am working on a Bathroom with taps obtained over the internet which as soon as I install them I am responsible for so hopefully the disclaimer from the owner will cover me. She also ordered some of the wrong bits.
          Tiled walls and floor that have to be waterproofed, not allowed to be walked on for a day then the time to tile ( on this job 2 bathrooms) Tiler already been 4 days and until he is finish I nor the Sparky can finish Oh and have now found out not enough tiles but still wants to more in next week.
          To do the above there is a builder,plumber,electrician,joiner and a plumber. Do not where you need an engineer.
          As to driving around and getting stuck in traffic, that is what you get for living in a city.
          On a more serious note obtaining staff and training is a more pressing concern and is not a problem that is going to be solved quickly. In the case of the two apprentices we have the biggest problem is keeping them at the block course as they get bored as the course has been dumb down so much.
          As an example the apprentices on one course were asked the make up of water and out of twenty or so only one could answer H2O , Bloody Hell.
          Lprent
          Gotten?

        • KJT 6.1.2.2

          And. You still need the person with experience in all those jobs, to make sure that they all fit together and are done properly.

          The myth that an accountant can manage tradesmen, was exploded long ago.

          And. It is time that we also got over the myth that if you are thick, you become a tradesman. You don’t have to be academic. Something which is overrated, in the Anglo Saxon world, anyway.

          Successful tradespeople have a huge range of skills, from technical ability in their trade, technical knowledge, people skills, business skills, open minds, critical thinking and ability to adapt.

          Apprenticeships in the 70’s produced well rounded, skilled and competent people.

          The removal of apprenticeships has resulted in a huge training gap, which should be filled by training young people.

          Importing marginally qualified and, ignorant of NZ construction, immigrants is only done to keep pay down.

      • Stuart Munro 6.1.3

        In fishing a major issue was that management did not possess the skills themselves, and readily fell into accountancy driven ideas of improvement. With the QMS, the fishermen were basically wiped out by the companies that had operated the markets – Sanford, Sealord, Independent. They tended to capitalize instead of upskilling, which did nothing for their ROI, and subsidize their inefficiency by increasing pressure on the resource or on lower level employees.

        Japan is the contrast to look at – they have a similar littoral fishable resource. But it returns 100x what NZ’s does, and employs a 100x as many people. Japanese people eat locally caught fish 4x a week or more. NZ people eat commercially caught fish roughly once a month. It’s a colonial industry, and it no longer belongs to us.

  7. garibaldi 7

    Stuart, pat, savenz… excellent thread, but it is not cynicism ,it is the truth.

  8. Once was Tim 8

    The labour.org.nz site’s posting on immigration policy appears to have been updated swince I last visted there.
    However! what really peeved me off was the gnat’s (and others) wilful misrepresentation of what it was intended to achieve. Initially there were 3 tranches – the third of which never seemed to be discussed in our wonderful MSM or elsewhere. (Perhaps they should have re-ordered it so that those with an agenda designed to justify their fuckups and record to date, and to introduce a policy that would at least partially coincide with the Greens and even NZF alike).
    Even now, the panick-stricken Natzis are trying to ride on this wave of the bullshit they’ve created.
    When I first looked at the policy (as it was first described), it was bleeding obvious that where skill shortages genuinely existed AND by region, an immigrant contribution would be welcomed.
    So (as they preface everything these days in the cool world),
    BECAUSE this government has deliberated over students coming to NZ to study shitty courses (such as Business Management – the content of which was so facile they’d probably already surpassed their lecturer/tutor’s knowledge in the course material provided, by comparison with their already 3rd World education knowledge),

    and BECAUSE many were promised bullshit opportunities such as relevant work experience and an income such that they’d be able to pay back the substantial loans, mortgages and debt incurred to come to NZ and study some of these brilliant PTE-provided issues of enlightenment,

    and BECAUSE the ‘export education sector’ has become such an earner for the Natzis’ mates and is reliant on a constant supply of suckers, and even intelligent people who have a reasonable expectation that this ‘1st World, least corrupt’ nation was legit and would never rip the vulnerable off,

    and BECAUSE the agents and charlatans who’ve lied, cheated, clipped the ticket and made very nice little earns on the back of their ‘clients – going forward – all enabled by a government policy and oversight of its regulatory authorities these ‘bloody immigrants’ are now here “taking all our bloody jobs”.

    Jesus!, they’re like rats aren’t they? Low Value, Not Genuine!!! Just Economic migrants trying to take us for a ride and displace us. (/sarc)
    Rather than operating with the very same creds and beliefs as the NZ economic migrant who fucks off across the Tassie because the wages are higher, or to our ‘Mother Nation’, but WORSE! – who then expects that when the shit hits the fan, they can always come back and survive. (DOUBLE STANDARD MUCH?)
    And FFS! Billshit English is using all this (and that thing in leopardskin) as evidence of success.

    So… (once again),
    the past nine years where immigration inward
    – based on an industry of ticket clippers, bullshit artists acting as consultants
    (who MAY just have an interest in other little earns – such as a recruitment of labour supply company, or even a PTE which can so easily go out of business and abrogate its liabilities), and under-resourced gubbamint departments (where its employees can ‘engage’ with the above – and IF not that, then go out and set themselves up in a business as experts in immigration/employment/education)…..

    We ARE where we are.
    We have regions where BECAUSE of government policy, the EXPERTISE and EXPERIENCE of whatever is relevant to that region IS NOW IN THE HANDS of the non-NZer, and who has (more often than not) in real debt – the likes of what many credit card holding NZers cannot comprehend.

    So… (again, going forward, ez a metta o’ fek, ekshully, en furtha more ez en iksarm pull):
    In Christchurch there are now bloody foreigners who hold the IP and experience and expertise that NU Zullners could have had
    Elsewhere, there are bloody foreigners who hold the IP and experience and expertise to deal with dairying and the means by which toxic cowshit could be dealt with
    In the Bay of Plenty, there are bloody foreigners versed in all stages of the Kiwifruit industry, from grading, new varieties, grafting, pruning, recognition of symptoms of the PSA virus and how it should best be dealt with, the effects of previous non-expert work,
    etc….
    And all of these exploited individuals willing and able to pass on/educate/elucidate their expertise to what Natzis describe as stoners unwilling to work will likely be tipped out.

    As just about EVERY international student or foreign work visa holder I’ve ever encountered says …. it’s all about the money.

    Probably the most arrogant thing that’s happening is that the Natzi’s think no-one is noticing – they are and its a tik tok scenario.
    Its not just a 14 deported student sob story, or a dairy farmer doing his best to ensure his cows don’t shit in rivers, or a building contractor ….. or even a legitimate and ethical immigration consultant or public servant resisting politicisation and the ministerial whispers from above, or an employee of what we once referred to as a Qango.

  9. Gristle 9

    The education and training industry who focus on overseas students are essentially selling NZ citizenship or residency. Would it not be better just to sell the residency and citizenship without the training etc.

    I am only pointing out that the current approach is economically inefficient as we could strip away all the cost and time associated with the training and processing. Visa, citizenship and permits need only take as long as it takes for funds to be transferred.

    Even Mr Theil shouldn’t have to wait the inordinate length of time he was required to wait and the 12 days he spent in country.

    • Pat 9.1

      Theil a bad example….he was a net loss to the country by 10s of millions…..as for direct sale , you would need to place an upper age limit on the purchaser to achieve the same ( and their target) demographic….and include a sleeping bag and tent in the price,.

      How about we elect a government with a semblance of a real economic plan?

  10. JC 10

    Great Post!

    Sadly…. Haven’t we had NINE years to sort this …. Out!…

    “We need calm heads and experienced minds at the helm to manage New Zealand’s construction sector through this period. We need long-term thinkers, not knee-jerk reactions and political posturing” i.e.,

    http://www.constructionnews.co.nz/opinion/editorial-august-september-2017.

    ” …. demand for construction-related occupations is also projected to increase (by around 56,000 employees); occupations that are expected to experience the largest growth include plumbers, electricians and civil engineering professionals.”..

    (Whatever happened to apprenticeships.. ?)

    or …

    httmps://www.branz.co.nz/cs_show_download.php?id=084f756ba55c5cca2a6ddb2e1b30ee18406cb4b7

    Or compare this “Futuristic wank from the Past… ,(2009), from the dishonorable, “Mr Coleman”

    ” Our Skilled Migrant Marketing Programme uses a combination of search engine optimisation techniques and online advertising to target skilled migrants in the United States and the UK. To date it has built up a database of over 67,000 prospective migrants. They are serious registrants, eager to move here – 52% want to move within 12 months – and are available to fill positions in key skill shortage areas. Over 55% are tertiary qualified and their average age is 35. Over 50% have skills included in the Skill Shortage list and over 15,000 have been linked to prospective New Zealand employers already.” …. (sic)

    https://www.beehive.govt.nz/speech/economic-impact-immigration

    Oh.. and about the Cranes .. It’s All sorted!

    https://www.cranes.org.nz/news/national-construction-pipeline-report-2016

    • Whatever happened to apprenticeships.. ?

      They cost money and so it’s cheaper to import talent trained elsewhere and let our own people’s skills deteriorate – according to NZ ‘managers’.

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    Back in June, the UK Court of Appeal ruled that that country's continued arms sales to Saudi Arabia were unlawful. So you'd expect that the UK government stopped approving them, right?Of course not:The government has apologised for breaching a court ruling against the sale of weapons to Saudi Arabia that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    23 hours ago
  • Covering up the cover-up
    Yesterday NZDF officials were put on the stand about the lies they had told over Operation Burnham, making implausible claims that it was all a big mistake. But along the way, we learned they had already been put on the spot about it by a previous Defence Minister, who had ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    24 hours ago
  • Not as important as they think they are
    Farmers have been whining a lot lately, about the methane targets in the Zero Carbon Bill, about Canterbury's proposed nitrogen limits, and about the government's new proposals to stop them from shitting in our lakes and rivers. These policies are "throwing farmers under the tractor", they will force farmers off ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 day ago
  • Behind Every Good Woman Should Stand – Another Good Woman.
    Alone, Alone, All, All, Alone: To argue that the Prime Minister is the victim of her advisers’ failure to keep her informed may offer Jacinda some measure of exoneration – but only at the cost of casting her as a hopeless political ingénue. A star-dusted muppet, whose only purpose is to ...
    1 day ago
  • Poor quality, poorly educated kiddie ‘Journalists’ spreading fake news
    In times of hysteria about the “World coming to an end” and “rising sea levels” so-called ‘Journalists’ who can barely spell words longer than four letters are having a ball! Though the majority of the Public have worked out that manmade climate change is nothing short of pseudo-science, and the ...
    An average kiwiBy admin@averagekiwi.com
    1 day ago
  • Chris Trotter on the BFD
    I don't want to give pblicity to certain parts of the internet that are better left to fester in their own irrelevance (I know, a bit like this place) but the listing of Chris Trotter as a 'author' on Cameron Slater's spinoff website, the BFD requires some explanation.Now, I don't ...
    2 days ago
  • Sex is not a spectrum
    The text below is a Twitter thread by Heather Heying that explains the essence of sexual reproduction and it long evolutionary history. She is an evolutionary biologist and a “professor-in-exile” after she and her husband, Bret Weinstein, stood up to supporters of an enforced “Day of Absence” for white staff and teachers ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 days ago
  • Climate Change: Trees, aviation, and offsets
    With crunch time for new Zealand climate policy approaching, most of the New Zealand media have got on board with a global reporting effort to cover the issue. There's one strand of stories today about polling and what it shows about changing public attitudes to the crisis, but the strand ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Pissing-Off The Israelis Is A High-Risk Strategy.
    Dangerous Foes: For those readers of Bowalley Road who feel disposed to dismiss any prospect of an Israeli destabilisation of New Zealand politics, the example of the United Kingdom repays close attention. Ever since the election of Jeremy Corbyn as leader of the British Labour Party, the Israelis have sanctioned, funded and ...
    2 days ago
  • Something to go to in Wellington
    Make It 16, the youth-led campaign to lower New Zealand's voting age, is holding an official campaign launch at Parliament this Friday from 16:30. If you'd like to attend, you can register using EventBrite here. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • A founding member responds to Peace Action Wellington
    by Don Franks It was a lovely sunny Wellington afternoon with blue skies above  the beaches.  In Courtenay Place, political activists packed out a stuffy upstairs room for an important meeting. The assembled pacifists, anarchists, communists and independent young radicals of Peace Action Wellington felt the need for a mission ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 days ago
  • “Mistakes and errors”
    Current and former NZDF top brass are being publicly grilled this week by the hit and run inquiry over their public responses to allegations of civilian casualties. Previously, they've claimed there were no casualties, a position which led them to lie to Ministers and to the public. Now, they're saying ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • “Homosexuality is same-sex attraction and relationships, not heterosexuals with delusions of gende...
    by Rafael D. Quiles (gender-critical gay man from Puerto Rico) The writing on the wall is right in people’s faces and people just don’t see it or don’t want to. What could actually possess a heterosexual male to want to feminize himself and claim that he is a lesbian? Because ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    3 days ago
  • Trump: “Where’s my favourite dictator?”
    From the Wall Street Journal:Inside a room of the ornately decorated Hotel du Palais during last month’s Group of Seven summit in Biarritz, France, President Trump awaited a meeting with Egyptian President Abdel Fattah Al Sisi. Mr. Trump looked over a gathering of American and Egyptian officials and called out in ...
    3 days ago
  • Magdalen Burns, 1983-2019, fighter for women’s liberation
    by the Redline blog collective At Redline we are very saddened to hear of the death of Magdalen Burns who passed away on the morning of Friday, September 13 (British time). Magdalen was a great fighter for the rights of women in general and lesbian women in particular, a defender ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    4 days ago
  • Parliament and the Executive
    The Brexit issue has certainly brought with it a series of apparently difficult constitutional issues, many of them concerning the respective roles of the executive and parliament. Most of them arise because of the unwillingness of MPs, despite their professions to the contrary, to be bound by a constitutional rarity ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    4 days ago
  • The Abigail Article; Martyn Bradbury’s Article, and My Response
    . . This blogpost is different to my usual format of reporting on issues… Since July 1011, I have blogged on a variety of political issues; near always political and/or environmental; mostly highly critical of the previous National Government. Other issues included Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands and repression of ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    4 days ago
  • Police will have to wear silly Buckingham Palace hats from now on, says Police Minister
    Those close to the Police Minister believe the initiative may be the result of Nash “seeing a great deal” on AliExpress. In a move that comes seemingly out of nowhere, Police Minister Stuart Nash announced this afternoon that he expects all frontline staff to don bearskin hats, famously worn by ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    5 days ago
  • A sensible crackdown
    The government has released its Arms Legislation Bill, containing the second tranche of changes to gun laws following the March 15 massacre. And it all looks quite sensible: a national gun register, higher penalties for illegal possession and dealing, tighter restrictions on arms dealers and shooting clubs, and a shorter ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • California bans private prisons
    Private prisons are a stain on humanity. Prison operators explicitly profit from human misery, then lobby for longer prisons terms so they can keep on profiting. And in the US, prison companies run not only local and state prisons, but also Donald Trump's immigration concentration camps. Faced with this moral ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Why PPPs are a bad idea
    When National was in power, they were very keen on Public-Private Partnerships (PPPs) - basicly, using private companies to finance public infrastructure as a way of hiding debt from the public. They were keen on using them for everything - roads, schools, hospitals. But as the UK shows, that "service" ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • A Movement That No Longer Moves.
    Moving And Shaking: There was a time when people spoke matter-of-factly about the “labour movement” – a political phenomenon understood to embrace much more than the Labour Party. Included within the term’s definition was the whole trade union movement – many of whose members looked upon the Labour Party as ...
    5 days ago
  • NZ ‘left’ politically embracing extreme postmodernism
    by Philip Ferguson Much of the left, even people who formally identify as marxists, have collapsed politically in the face of postmodern gender theory of the sort pioneered by American philosopher Judith Butler. For Butler even biological sex is socially constructed. “If the immutable character of sex is contested, perhaps ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    6 days ago
  • The obvious question
    The media is reporting that the (alleged) Labour party sexual assaulter has resigned from their job at Parliament, which means hopefully he won't be turning up there making people feel unsafe in future. Good. But as with everything about this scandal, it just raises other questions. Most significantly: why the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • The moment I found out that you found out, I acted swiftly
    By Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern I am every bit as angry as you are. I am every bit as disappointed as you must be. The people with power, oversight and the ability to do something about these processes within the Labour Party should be ashamed. Whoever those people are, I ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    6 days ago
  • This is why people hate property developers
    Property developers think there is an "oversupply" of houses in Auckland:High turnover rates and falling prices may be a sign that there are too many new houses going in to some parts of Auckland, commentators say. [...] Property developer David Whitburn said there was a "bit of an oversupply" in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Australia to Pacific: “Fuck you, you can all drown”
    World leaders are meeting in New York in two weeks for the 2019 Climate Action Summit, where they are expected to announce new and more ambitious targets to stop the world from burning. But the Australian Prime Minister won't be there, despite being in the USA at the time:Scott Morrison ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Implausible ignorance
    Labour Party president Nigel Haworth resigned yesterday over the party's sexual assault scandal. But while that's good news, its unlikely to take away the stench of a coverup. Because according to Paula Bennett in Parliament yesterday, pretty much everyone in the Prime Minister's office was involved as well:I have been ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Labour’s Fatal Flaw.
     Two-Faced? Labour insiders' commitment to the neoliberal status quo puts them at odds with their party’s membership; its trade union affiliates; and a majority of Labour voters, but this only serves to strengthen the perception they have of themselves as a special elite. Among the lesser breeds, they’ll talk up a ...
    6 days ago
  • Ten reasons the Tories do NOT want an election
    There has been a lot of talk about Boris Johnson wanting an election, and he has blustered with great gusto about 'chicken' Jeremy Corbyn refusing one, but I think there are many reasons why he is secretly glad he has been refused the opportunity:The Tories are an utter rabble,tearing themselves ...
    7 days ago
  • Prorogation Illegal, rule Scottish judges
    Scottish appeal court judges have declared that Boris Johnson’s decision to suspend parliament in the run-up to the October Brexit deadline is unlawful. The three judges, chaired by Lord Carloway, Scotland’s most senior judge, overturned an earlier ruling that the courts did not have the powers to interfere in the prime ...
    7 days ago
  • Let me explain what I meant by Everyday New Zealanders
    By Simon Bridges. The following is a press release from the office of Simon Bridges, leader of The National Party. Key ora, New Zealand. Happy Maori Language Week. Look, I’m writing to you today because I want to clear something up. There’s been a lot of kerfuffle around some things ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    7 days ago
  • Yes, the SIS is subject to the Public Records Act
    I understand there's some stuff going round about how the SIS "was removed from the list of public offices covered by the Public Records Act in 2017". The context of course being their records derived from US torture, which will be disposed of or sealed. The good news is that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • An evidence-based discussion of the Canadian fluoride/IQ study
    Dr. Christopher Labos and Jonathan Jarry discuss the recent Canadian fluoride/IQ research. They provide an expert analysis of the paper and its problems. Click on image to go to podcast. The critical debate about the recent ...
    7 days ago
  • Climate Change: Australia in denial
    Australia is burning down again, and meanwhile its natural disaster minister is denying climate change:Australia’s minister responsible for drought and natural disasters, David Littleproud, has said that he doesn’t “know if climate change is manmade”. Clarifying earlier comments that the question is “irrelevant” when considering the Coalition government’s response to ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Philippines activist speaking on the Duterte tyranny
    Auckland Philippines Solidarity is excited to host Professor Judy Taguiwalo for a speaking tour of NZ in September. She is a well-known activist in the Philippines and was a political prisoner under the Marcos dictatorship. Professor Taguiwalo briefly served as a Cabinet member under President Duterte but was forced from ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Disgust
    I have no special insights to offer on the Labour sexual assault coverup. All I have is disgust. Disgust that an organisation could fail its people so badly. Disgust that they punished the victims rather than the perpetrator. Disgust that its party hacks are apparently blaming the victims for demanding ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Speak Up for Women calls out Greens’ censorship
    This open letter to the Green Party was penned after an opinion piece by Jill Abigail, a feminist and founding member of the party, was censored by the Greens’ leadership. (Redline has reprinted her article here).The intolerance of the Green Party leaders and their acceptance of the misogyny of gender ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Member’s Day: End of Life Choice, part 3
    Today is a Member's day, and David Seymour's End of Life Choice Bill continues its slow crawl through its committee stage. They're spending the whole day on it today, though the first hour is likely to be spent on voting left over from last time. After that they'll move on ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Flight to Los Angeles turned back after passengers decide they don’t want to go anymore
    An ambitious plan to fly to Los Angeles petered out into a brief sight-seeing trip and a desire to return home and get some sleep before work tomorrow. Air New Zealand has confirmed a flight to Los Angeles last night was turned back about a quarter of the way into ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Indigenous Futures: defuturing and futuring – an analytical framework for policy development?
    There appears to be consensus – by omission – that the concept of indigenous futures should be accepted at face value. So I scavenged the internet to see if I could locate an academic descriptor or a framework around how we think about it as a concept, and whether it ...
    EllipsisterBy Ellipsister
    1 week ago
  • Cadbury rumoured to be releasing the Pineapple Trump
    Here’s another novelty chocolate to shove in your gob, New Zealand Cadbury could be seeking to make itself great again with a rumoured new release: Pineapple Trumps, a spin on its classic chocolate-encased pineapple treat and do-it-yourself tooth remover. The global confectionery manufacturer and bumbling “before” character in an infomercial, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • The coming resource war.
    During my time in the Pentagon I had the privilege of sitting down with military leaders and defence and security officials from a variety of Latin American nations. Sometimes I was present as a subordinate assistant to a senior US defence department official, sometimes as part of a delegation that ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    1 week ago
  • Māori Language Week with The Civilian
    Kia ora, Aotearoa. It’s that magical time of year. Te Wiki o te Reo Māori. In English, the week that frightens talk radio. As you probably know by now, all your favourite media outlets are participating, some more successfully than others. Stuff has changed its name to Puna for the ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Will Horizons act on climate change?
    Local body elections are coming up next month. And it looks like all Palmerston North candidates for Horizons (the Manawatu-Whanganui Regional Council) want to take action on climate change:Climate change is set to be a key issue in Palmerston North for the next three years if those wanting to get ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • BORA reform is stalled
    Eighteen months ago, the government promised to strengthen the Bill of Rights Act, by explicitly affirming the power of the courts to issue declarations of inconsistency and requiring Parliament to formally respond to them. So how's that going? I was curious, so I asked for all advice about the proposal. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Corbyn and Brexit
    As the Brexit saga staggers on, the focus is naturally enough on the Prime Minister and his attempts to achieve Brexit “do or die”. But the role played by the Leader of the Opposition is of almost equal interest and complexity. The first problem for Jeremy Corbyn is that he ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • A ditch for him to die in
    Last week, English Prime Minister Boris Johnson boldly declared that he would rather die be dead in a ditch than delay Brexit. Unfortunately for him, the UK parliament accepted the challenge, and promptly dug one for him. The "rebellion bill" requires him to ask for and secure yet another temporary ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Warning! Warning! Danger Jacinda Ardern! Danger Marama Davidson! Warning!
    Lost In Political Space: The most important takeaway from this latest Labour sexual assault scandal, which (if I may paraphrase Nixon’s White House counsel’s, John Dean’s, infamous description of Watergate) is “growing like a cancer” on the premiership, is the Labour Party organisation’s extraordinary professional paralysis in the face of ...
    1 week ago
  • Union solidarity with Ihumatao land occupation
    by Daphna Whitmore Every Sunday for the past two months unionists from First Union, with supporters from other unions, have set out to the Ihumatao land protest, put up gazebos and gas barbeques, and cooked food for a few hundred locals and supporters who have come from across the country. ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: The wrong kind of trees?
    Newsroom today has an excellent, in-depth article on pine trees as carbon sinks. The TL;DR is that pine is really good at soaking up carbon, but people prefer far-less efficient native forests instead. Which is understandable, but there's two problems: firstly, we've pissed about so long on this problem that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • No freedom of speech in Turkey
    Canan Kaftancioglu is a Turkish politician and member of the opposition Republican People's Party (CHP). Like most modern politicians, she tweets, and uses the platform to criticise the Turkish government. She has criticised them over the death of a 14-year-old boy who was hit by a tear gas grenade during ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Speaker: Tadhg Stopford: Why I’m standing for the ADHB
    Hi there, just call me Tim.We face tough problems, and I’d like to help, because there are solutions.An Auckand District Health Board member has nominated me for as a candidate for the ADHB, because her MS-related pain and fatigue is reduced with hemp products from Rotorua.  Nothing else helped her. If I ...
    1 week ago
  • Good little vassals
    The Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security has published their report on whether the SIS and GCSB had any complicity in American torture. And its damning. The pull quote is this:The Inquiry found both agencies, but to a much greater degree, the NZSIS, received many intelligence reports obtained from detainees who, ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Who Shall We Turn To When God, And Uncle Sam, Cease To Defend New Zealand?
    Bewhiskered Cassandra? Professor Hugh White’s chilling suggestion, advanced to select collections of academic, military and diplomatic Kiwi experts over the course of the past week, is that the assumptions upon which Australia and New Zealand have built their foreign affairs and defence policies for practically their entire histories – are ...
    1 week ago
  • The Politics of Opposition
    For most of the time I was a British MP, my party was out of government – these were the Thatcher years, when it was hard for anyone else to get a look-in. As a front-bencher and shadow minister, I became familiar with the strategies required in a parliamentary democracy ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • More expert comments on the Canadian fluoride-IQ paper
    The Green et al (2019) fluoride/IQ is certainly controversial – as would be expected from its subject (see If at first you don’t succeed . . . statistical manipulation might help and Politics of science – making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear). Anti-fluoride campaigners have been actively promoting it ...
    1 week ago
  • The return to guerrilla war in Colombia
    by Gearóid Ó Loingsigh On August 29th a video in which veteran FARC (Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia) commander Iván Márquez announced that they had taken up arms again was released. There was no delay in the reaction to it, from longtime Liberal Party figure and former president Uribe, for ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Air New Zealand identifies this enormous plot of unused land as possible second airport site
    Air New Zealand couldn’t believe its luck that this seemingly ideal piece of real estate had so far gone entirely unnoticed. Air New Zealand’s search for a site to build a second Auckland Airport may have made a breakthrough this afternoon, after employees scanning Google satellite imagery spotted a huge, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Redline on the Labour Party
    No-one on the anti-capitalist left in this country today puts forward a case that Labour is on the side of the working class.  There are certainly people who call themselves ‘socialist’ who do, but they are essentially liberals with vested interests in Labourism – often for career reasons. Nevertheless, there ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • New Fisk
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Labour’s failure
    When National was in government and fucking over the poor for the benefit of the rich, foodbanks were a growth industry. And now Labour is in charge, nothing has changed: A huge demand for emergency food parcels means the Auckland City Mission is struggling to prepare for the impending arrival ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Ardern attempts to vaccinate Clarke Gayford live on television to prove that it’s safe
    Gayford, pictured here on The Project, before things got wildly out of control. A bold public relations move by the Government to encourage parents to vaccinate their children has gone horribly wrong. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern appeared on tonight’s episode of Three’s The Project, where the plan was for her ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Has Mr. Whippy gone too far by parking on our front lawns?
    Mr. Whippy’s business model has driven it down a dark road of intimidation. Residents in major centres around the country are becoming disgruntled by the increasingly aggressive actions of purported ice cream company Mr. Whippy, who have taken to parking on people’s front lawns and doorsteps in a desperate attempt ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Cleaning up the water
    Today the government released its Action Plan for Healthy Waterways, aimed at cleaning up our lakes and rivers. Its actually quite good. There will be protection for wetlands, better standards for swimming spots, a requirement for continuous improvement, and better standards for wastewater and stormwater. But most importantly, there's a ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Fronting up
    Today I appeared before the Environment Committee to give an oral submission on the Zero Carbon Bill. Over 1,500 people have asked to appear in person, so they've divided into subcommittees and are off touring the country, giving people a five minute slot each. The other submitters were a mixed ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Politics of science – making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear
    Anti-fluoride activists have some wealthy backers – they are erecting billboards misrepresenting the Canadian study on many New Zealand cities – and local authorities are ordering their removal because of their scaremongering. Many New Zealanders ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Democracy – I Don’t Think So
    So, those who “know best” have again done their worst. While constantly claiming to be the guardians of democracy and the constitution, and respecters of the 2016 referendum result, diehard Remainers (who have never brought themselves to believe that their advice could have been rejected) have striven might and main ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 weeks ago
  • Government says it will now build just one really nice home
    Following publication of this article, the Ministry has requested it to be noted that this supplied image is not necessarily representative of what the final house will look like, and it “probably won’t be that nice.” As part of today’s long-anticipated reset of the Government’s flagship KiwiBuild policy, Housing Minister ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Imperialism and your cup of coffee
    Over the next week or two we will be running three synopses of parts of the opening chapter of John Smith’s Imperialism in the 21st Century (New York, Monthly Review Press, 2016).  The synopsis and commentary below is written by Phil Duncan. Marx began Capital not with a sweeping historical ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Still juking the stats
    The State Services Commission and Ombudsman have released another batch of OIA statistics, covering the last six months. Request volumes are up, and the core public service is generally handling them within the legal timeframe, though this may be because they've learned to extend rather than just ignore things. And ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago

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