Talk is cheap

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1. happynz 1

   8 August 2011 at 7:46 am

   On behalf of the Government, let me be clear that no one will be left to walk this journey alone. New Zealand will walk this journey with you. We will be there every step of the way. Christchurch; this is not your test, this is New Zealand’s test. I promise we will meet this test. …

   As we look to the future, New Zealanders should know that the Government is going to do everything we can to support the recovery and rebuilding of Christchurch.

   Yeah, I remember seeing that speech on the TV. Rarely did Key look up from the script he was reading. He squeaked and slurred his way through a speech that he likely didn’t write. Perhaps in his mind since he wasn’t the author of the piece it isn’t his responsibility to stand by the words.
2. Pascal's bookie 2

   8 August 2011 at 7:57 am

   “out of respect for them [the families], we won’t be commenting on the details of the meeting”

   So ‘out of respect’ he’s just going to imply they are liars rather than say so. Which also means he never said it, so can’t be called on it. Wanker.
3. Lazy Susan 3

   8 August 2011 at 7:58 am

   Tax cuts north of $50

   National is not going to be raising gst

   See how he talks out of the side of his mouth

   Meanspirited oportunist
   • felix 3.1

     8 August 2011 at 8:33 am

     He’s never been held to account for what he says at the end of that video either.
4. Colonial Viper 4

   8 August 2011 at 8:15 am

   BIG JOHN THE CON

   Key is letting the whole of the country down. He is happy to invoke the name of NZ, of honour and of respect at the drop of a hat. And within months it always becomes clear that he has no intention to follow through.

   He must be mad to think he can get away with this before an election. Look for the massive backpeddling on the issue the moment that it gains sufficient media attention.

   I reckon we need a weekly serial on television: “FAIR GO Prime Minister”.

   edit – 8:20am an hour after posting and it looks like the RWNJs haven’t figured out their lines for this issue yet.
   • jackal 4.1

     8 August 2011 at 10:25 am

     Let me guess what they will say… everybody loves John Key, just look at the brain fart polls. What a load of rubbish! Do those people who are not getting help in Christchurch “love” JK? Do the thousands of public sector workers who were laid off “love” JK? Do the families of the Pike River mine victims “love” JK for National destroying the safety inspectorate? Do the hundreds of thousands of unemployed and low waged who can’t afford to pay bills or buy food any longer because it’s to expensive “love” JK? Do the thousands who are no longer eligible for a benefit under new harsh criteria, who are effectively receive nothing “love” JK? Do the tens thousands of people National has made redundant “love” old JK? Do the 20% of children who continue to live in poverty “love” JK? Do the tens of thousands leaving New Zealand forever each week “love” JK? Do all the people who cannot afford the Kiwi dream “love” JK? Do the army personnel who have been laid off “love” JK? Do the woman and children who can no longer escape violent and abusive situations because National cut funding for Woman’s Refuges “love” JK? Do the foreign fishermen who are being abused and not paid “love” JK? Do the Iwi’s who were not consulted before seismic testing for deep sea oil drilling was undertaken “love” JK? Do Kiwi’s who were not consulted before huge amounts of forestry were sold to foreigners “love” JK? And what about the American’s “love” for JK when he was on Letterman, which resulted in a huge decrease in tourism? Do the 80% of student’s who think the VSM bill is dumb “love” JK? etc.
     • Deadly_NZ 4.1.1

       8 August 2011 at 6:49 pm

       And all those who left because of the way the government has treated them can also still vote. And I bet they don’t “love” JK.
       • rosy 4.1.1.1

         8 August 2011 at 6:54 pm

         Absolutely Deadly_NZ. I hope Labour and the Greens are using some serious news/advert space in expat newspapers/blogs/magazines.
         • jackal 4.1.1.1.1

           8 August 2011 at 7:59 pm

           It was interesting that in 2010, National took the vote away from people sentenced to any term of imprisonment instead of the previous policy of restricting voting for those serving three years or longer. This goes against the direction of most other countries and even the Attorney General thinks its inconsistent with the Bill of Rights Act. Perhaps Nact will also try to limit or take the vote away from expats. I presume expats and the incarcerated would be more likely to support progressive parties being that one group is leaving en masse to escape and the other is more likely to be incarcerated because of the negative effects of right wing policies.
5. freedom 5

   8 August 2011 at 8:44 am

   recall the PM’s statement on the day of the September quake? Live on camera, when he stated emphatically that the EQC had 15 billion dollars of cash reserves. Then within a week it was said to be 6 Billion then a few days later it had become 3 billion.
6. travellerev 6

   8 August 2011 at 8:59 am

   When a Wall street banker opens his mouth he lies. Simple!
   • Draco T Bastard 6.1

     8 August 2011 at 11:15 am

     Yep, same is true of the bankers support parties such as National as well.
7. vto 7

   8 August 2011 at 9:00 am

   Here you go…

   Compare Key’s forked tongue on refusing to help out earthquake victims….

   with this

   http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/christchurch-earthquake-2011/5404407/Brownlee-No-discussion-on-recovery-panel-pay

   More money for the bureaucrats and less money for the victims. Sums it up really, and it is disgusting.
   • travellerev 7.1

     8 August 2011 at 9:04 am

     So VTO,
     How is the mood changing with regards to John Key in Chch?
      
     • vto 7.1.1

       8 August 2011 at 9:38 am

       Well not the best news for te left perhaps. There is still the lingering “I like John Key, he’s cute and cuddly..” approach. Not a lot of appetitie for change. It may well be that, in spite of some discomfort with the nats and their actions and plans and their long ago Ecan firings, people are preferring stability rather than change. That there has been enough upheaval and disruption, so just stick with what we’ve got. The desire for stability may well rule the day. 2c.
       • Puddleglum 7.1.1.1

         8 August 2011 at 10:19 am

         It’s important to remember that, in 2008, Christchurch Central still had about 53% support for Labour/Greens/Progressives and, in Christchurch East, about 54%. In Wigram, it was just below 53%, Port Hills just over 53%, Ilam 35%, Waimakariri 40%.

         I’d be stunned if support for ‘the left’ remains the same in 2011 (and I’d think the election was rigged if it decreased from that). It will go up. 
     • happynz 7.1.2

       8 August 2011 at 4:16 pm

       Chatting with my neighbours in my Christchurch inner suburb I haven’t heard one positive word regarding John Key or the National government.

       Perennial also-ran National party hack list MP Nicki Wagner hasn’t fronted up to the public (that I am aware of), and like MP for Wigram wannabe Sam Collins, their literature has nothing about what they have done for Christchurch or any vision about what they plan to do. Both of them are vigorously coat-tailing John Key though.
       • felix 7.1.2.1

         8 August 2011 at 4:40 pm

         Every Nat MP is vigorously coat-tailing John Key. He really is all they’ve got.
8. Afewknowthetruth 8

   8 August 2011 at 9:05 am

   Key is just a professional liar. His job is to protect vested interests and to promote economic arrangements that are riddled with corruption and lies.

   The key to dealing with people like Key is to never believe a word they say.
   • Ianupnorth 8.1

     8 August 2011 at 9:12 am

     Oh come on, that’s really harsh, he is a very busy man, he is 50 on Tuesday and Bronagh (rhymes with Mona you know) will be busily baking him a cake like a good wife.
     http://iansescapevalve.blogspot.com/2011/07/collection-of-john-keys-lies.html
9. KJT 9

   8 August 2011 at 9:34 am

   Key is a puppet for the NZ equivalent of these people.

   http://kjt-kt.blogspot.com/

   http://www.monbiot.com/2011/08/01/how-the-billionaires-broke-the-system/

   “”There are two ways of cutting a deficit: raising taxes or reducing spending. Raising taxes means taking money from the rich. Cutting spending means taking money from the poor. Not in all cases of course: some taxation is regressive; some state spending takes money from ordinary citizens and gives it to banks, arms companies, oil barons and farmers. But in most cases the state transfers wealth from rich to poor, while tax cuts shift it from poor to rich.

   So the rich, in a nominal democracy, have a struggle on their hands. Somehow they must persuade the other 99% to vote against their own interests: to shrink the state, supporting spending cuts rather than tax rises. In the US they appear to be succeeding””.
   • Draco T Bastard 9.1

     8 August 2011 at 11:19 am

     They appear to be succeeding in NZ as well.
10. Afewknowthetruth 10

    8 August 2011 at 10:29 am

    NZ share market down 2% shortly after opening.

    This could all get very interesting. Not quite the death of global capitalism just yet, but the frauds in the system are starting to bring it down.

    I’m sure Mr Smileandwave will find someone else to blame for the catastrophe that underway in NZ.
11. MrSmith 11

    8 August 2011 at 11:58 am

    This is typical Key, his minders will be only wanting him seen in a horse drawn carriage, waving to his adoring subjects from now on. Also this is a great diversion, so they should be able to spin this out for a few weeks.
     
    They will risk the bad publicity from the no-shows and no-comments, they are playing the odds and stats now, if the noise gets loud enough they may get key too throw some money at the peasants. Prince John will be the hero again and they all lived happily ever after.
12. McFlock 12

    8 August 2011 at 12:18 pm

    wot, no tories yet?

    I would have thought they’d at least have put some pickets out – one of their reflexive responses, like “shame on you, politicising TWO tragedies!” [answer: if the government cannot or will not assist its citizens in the most dire need, what the hell is it good for?], “Helen did it too!” [linking to some completely irrelevant article that will buy a couple of hours of peteG fudging, rationalising and equivocating], or even the idiotic “don’t be so negative!”.

    Must be a royal wedding on or something.
13. JS 13

    8 August 2011 at 12:22 pm

    Worrying that he is seeing the crisis as a chance to justify and make cuts to employment rights and conditions.
14. Treetop 14

    8 August 2011 at 1:55 pm

    When the government put their own fiscal interest before supporting the families of those whose loved ones were killed in a building which was deemed to be safe, I consider that not making money available to the families is so mean spirted to the point where I seriously question the government having genuine compassion for the families who require legal support.
15. Puddleglum 15

    8 August 2011 at 2:21 pm

    It is hard to escape the conclusion that Key works on an expedient operating principle of interpersonal deception.
16. Tom Gould 16

    8 August 2011 at 2:33 pm

    Did this story actually make it into the print version of the Press? The unfavourable stories on Key usually don’t, where as the others, like the one about him ‘being a massive hit with women voters’?
17. tc 17

    8 August 2011 at 5:05 pm

    on another subject but realted to the vacuous rantings of our PM…he now reckons the price of milk is OK….based on 3/5th’s of 5/8ths of S.F.A. but as usual the MSM lapdogs have licked it up creating ‘news’ where none exists.
18. dad4justice 18

    8 August 2011 at 7:24 pm

    John Key should rename the Red Zone as the Dead Zone. Where has the money gone Gerry or should I ask Mr H. Frew? You pricks are filthy low down boys club c##ts. I know what’s going down Mr Key. [Don’t threaten the PM here please. r0b]
    • vto 18.1

      8 August 2011 at 7:32 pm

      talk is cheap [and don’t egg him on! r0b]
19. Tombstone 19

    9 August 2011 at 1:34 pm

    How much more evidence do Kiwi voters need before they wake up to this guy?! I mean his treatment of those families down here in CHCH is disgusting and no matter what your political leanings no leader should be afforded the luxury of being able to get away with that kind of ill treatment of people who have suffered so much in the most trying of circumstances. Where the hell are our morales as a society. Where the hell is John Key’s integrity?! He seems to know no bounds when it comes to treating people like shit and as a leader the guy absolutely sickens me. It also sickens me that people keep heaping praise on the guy when he has done nothing of any real value for this country and continues to turn his back on ordinary hard working Kiwis so as to keep his rich mates in pocket. God help the lot of us if this is the face of leadership and inspiration for the future!
20. In Vino Veritas 20

    18 August 2011 at 12:45 pm

    Jackal, you ask “Do the families of the Pike River mine victims “love” JK”. Well mate, they shouldn’t love anyone in the Labour Party, since it was those nobs that gave approval for the mine in the first place. These are the imbeciles that decided that coal was to be taken from the mine via a ‘drift’, a gently-sloping 5 degree tunnel 2.3 km (1.4 mi) long. Thats 2.3km long. The approval included four 1.5-metre (4.9 ft)-wide emergency escape shafts within the boundaries of Paparoa National Park. The mine was anywhere up to 200m deep, with most of the work at 160m. To escape an explosion and gas via a 160m vertical climb is nigh on impossible, as is running for your life in the dark for 2.3km. Had your nutcase Party allowed the access to be closer to the actual mine itself, who knows what may have happened. However, Chris Carter was more interested in getting $70K for conservation projects for you milksops than the safety of the miners. No number of mine safety inspectors is going to prevent something similar in future. Its a bloody risky business and whack jobs like you are always looking for someone to blame and perhaps you should be looking at blaming these twerps: Clark, Cullen, Goff, King, Carter and the rest of your wet party that were round at the time (2004).

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