Terrorist attack in New Lynn
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This year just got more incredible.
News broke this afternoon of an attack at Countdown Lynnmall where the assailant was shot and six people injured, three critically. Jacinda Ardern and Police Commissioner have just given a stand up conference and have advised that the assailant was ISIS inspired.
He was a known threat and was under monitoring. He was shot by a police tactical unit who had been following him as a matter of course.
Ardern indicated he had been under surveillance since 2016.
More to follow.
Update:
Al Noor Mosque has started a GiveALittle page for the New Lynn attack victims.
— Ben McKay (@benmackey) September 3, 2021
"All terrorists are the same regardless of their ideology whether it is white nationalism or ISIS they stand for hate and we all stand for peace and love" – Imam Gamal Foudahttps://t.co/BanfdINyoF
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- Government commits $20m to Westport flood protectionThe Government has announced that $20 million in funding will be made available to Westport to fund much needed flood protection around the town. This measure will significantly improve the resilience of the community, says Local Government Minister Simeon Brown. “The Westport community has already been allocated almost $3 million ...19 hours ago
- Taupō takes pole positionThe Government is proud to support the first ever Repco Supercars Championship event in Taupō as up to 70,000 motorsport fans attend the Taupō International Motorsport Park this weekend, says Economic Development Minister Melissa Lee. “Anticipation for the ITM Taupō Super400 is huge, with tickets and accommodation selling out weeks ...20 hours ago
- Cost of living support for low-income homeownersLocal Government Minister Simeon Brown has announced an increase to the Rates Rebate Scheme, putting money back into the pockets of low-income homeowners. “The coalition Government is committed to bringing down the cost of living for New Zealanders. That includes targeted support for those Kiwis who are doing things tough, such ...22 hours ago
- Government backing mussel spat projectThe Coalition Government is investing in a project to boost survival rates of New Zealand mussels and grow the industry, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones has announced. “This project seeks to increase the resilience of our mussels and significantly boost the sector’s productivity,” Mr Jones says. “The project - ...22 hours ago
- Government focused on getting people into workBenefit figures released today underscore the importance of the Government’s plan to rebuild the economy and have 50,000 fewer people on Jobseeker Support, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says. “Benefit numbers are still significantly higher than when National was last in government, when there was about 70,000 fewer ...1 day ago
- Clean energy key driver to reducing emissionsThe Government’s commitment to doubling New Zealand’s renewable energy capacity is backed by new data showing that clean energy has helped the country reach its lowest annual gross emissions since 1999, Climate Change Minister Simon Watts says. New Zealand’s latest Greenhouse Gas Inventory (1990-2022) published today, shows gross emissions fell ...1 day ago
- Earthquake-prone buildings review brought forwardThe Government is bringing the earthquake-prone building review forward, with work to start immediately, and extending the deadline for remediations by four years, Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk says. “Our Government is focused on rebuilding the economy. A key part of our plan is to cut red tape that ...1 day ago
- Thailand and NZ to agree to Strategic PartnershipPrime Minister Christopher Luxon and his Thai counterpart, Prime Minister Srettha Thavisin, have today agreed that New Zealand and the Kingdom of Thailand will upgrade the bilateral relationship to a Strategic Partnership by 2026. “New Zealand and Thailand have a lot to offer each other. We have a strong mutual desire to build ...2 days ago
- Government consults on extending coastal permits for portsRMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop and Transport Minister Simeon Brown have today announced the Coalition Government’s intention to extend port coastal permits for a further 20 years, providing port operators with certainty to continue their operations. “The introduction of the Resource Management Act in 1991 required ports to obtain coastal ...2 days ago
- Inflation coming down, but more work to doToday’s announcement that inflation is down to 4 per cent is encouraging news for Kiwis, but there is more work to be done - underlining the importance of the Government’s plan to get the economy back on track, acting Finance Minister Chris Bishop says. “Inflation is now at 4 per ...2 days ago
- School attendance restored as a priority in health adviceRefreshed health guidance released today will help parents and schools make informed decisions about whether their child needs to be in school, addressing one of the key issues affecting school attendance, says Associate Education Minister David Seymour. In recent years, consistently across all school terms, short-term illness or medical reasons ...2 days ago
- Unnecessary bureaucracy cut in oceans sectorOceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones is streamlining high-level oceans management while maintaining a focus on supporting the sector’s role in the export-led recovery of the economy. “I am working to realise the untapped potential of our fishing and aquaculture sector. To achieve that we need to be smarter with ...2 days ago
- Patterson promoting NZ’s wool sector at International CongressAssociate Agriculture Minister Mark Patterson is speaking at the International Wool Textile Organisation Congress in Adelaide, promoting New Zealand wool, and outlining the coalition Government’s support for the revitalisation the sector. "New Zealand’s wool exports reached $400 million in the year to 30 June 2023, and the coalition Government ...3 days ago
- Removing red tape to help early learners thriveThe Government is making legislative changes to make it easier for new early learning services to be established, and for existing services to operate, Associate Education Minister David Seymour says. The changes involve repealing the network approval provisions that apply when someone wants to establish a new early learning service, ...3 days ago
- RMA changes to cut coal mining consent red tapeChanges to the Resource Management Act will align consenting for coal mining to other forms of mining to reduce barriers that are holding back economic development, Resources Minister Shane Jones says. “The inconsistent treatment of coal mining compared with other extractive activities is burdensome red tape that fails to acknowledge ...3 days ago
- McClay reaffirms strong NZ-China trade relationshipTrade, Agriculture and Forestry Minister Todd McClay has concluded productive discussions with ministerial counterparts in Beijing today, in support of the New Zealand-China trade and economic relationship. “My meeting with Commerce Minister Wang Wentao reaffirmed the complementary nature of the bilateral trade relationship, with our Free Trade Agreement at its ...3 days ago
- Prime Minister Luxon acknowledges legacy of Singapore Prime Minister LeePrime Minister Christopher Luxon today paid tribute to Singapore’s outgoing Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong. Meeting in Singapore today immediately before Prime Minister Lee announced he was stepping down, Prime Minister Luxon warmly acknowledged his counterpart’s almost twenty years as leader, and the enduring legacy he has left for Singapore and South East ...4 days ago
- PMs Luxon and Lee deepen Singapore-NZ tiesPrime Minister Christopher Luxon held a bilateral meeting today with Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong. While in Singapore as part of his visit to South East Asia this week, Prime Minister Luxon also met with Singapore President Tharman Shanmugaratnam and will meet with Deputy Prime Minister Lawrence Wong. During today’s meeting, Prime Minister Luxon ...4 days ago
- Antarctica New Zealand Board appointmentsForeign Minister Winston Peters has made further appointments to the Board of Antarctica New Zealand as part of a continued effort to ensure the Scott Base Redevelopment project is delivered in a cost-effective and efficient manner. The Minister has appointed Neville Harris as a new member of the Board. Mr ...4 days ago
- Finance Minister travels to Washington DCFinance Minister Nicola Willis will travel to the United States on Tuesday to attend a meeting of the Five Finance Ministers group, with counterparts from Australia, the United States, Canada, and the United Kingdom. “I am looking forward to meeting with our Five Finance partners on how we can work ...4 days ago
- Pet bonds a win/win for renters and landlordsThe coalition Government has today announced purrfect and pawsitive changes to the Residential Tenancies Act to give tenants with pets greater choice when looking for a rental property, says Housing Minister Chris Bishop. “Pets are important members of many Kiwi families. It’s estimated that around 64 per cent of New ...4 days ago
- Long Tunnel for SH1 Wellington being consideredState Highway 1 (SH1) through Wellington City is heavily congested at peak times and while planning continues on the duplicate Mt Victoria Tunnel and Basin Reserve project, the Government has also asked NZ Transport Agency (NZTA) to consider and provide advice on a Long Tunnel option, Transport Minister Simeon Brown ...4 days ago
- New Zealand condemns Iranian strikesPrime Minister Christopher Luxon and Foreign Minister Winston Peters have condemned Iran’s shocking and illegal strikes against Israel. “These attacks are a major challenge to peace and stability in a region already under enormous pressure," Mr Luxon says. "We are deeply concerned that miscalculation on any side could ...5 days ago
- Huge interest in Government’s infrastructure plansHundreds of people in little over a week have turned out in Northland to hear Regional Development Minister Shane Jones speak about plans for boosting the regional economy through infrastructure. About 200 people from the infrastructure and associated sectors attended an event headlined by Mr Jones in Whangarei today. Last ...7 days ago
- Health Minister thanks outgoing Health New Zealand ChairHealth Minister Dr Shane Reti has today thanked outgoing Health New Zealand – Te Whatu Ora Chair Dame Karen Poutasi for her service on the Board. “Dame Karen tendered her resignation as Chair and as a member of the Board today,” says Dr Reti. “I have asked her to ...7 days ago
- Roads of National Significance planning underwayThe NZ Transport Agency (NZTA) has signalled their proposed delivery approach for the Government’s 15 Roads of National Significance (RoNS), with the release of the State Highway Investment Proposal (SHIP) today, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says. “Boosting economic growth and productivity is a key part of the Government’s plan to ...7 days ago
- Navigating an unstable global environmentNew Zealand is renewing its connections with a world facing urgent challenges by pursuing an active, energetic foreign policy, Foreign Minister Winston Peters says. “Our country faces the most unstable global environment in decades,” Mr Peters says at the conclusion of two weeks of engagements in Egypt, Europe and the United States. “We cannot afford to sit back in splendid ...7 days ago
- NZ welcomes Australian Governor-GeneralPrime Minister Christopher Luxon has announced the Australian Governor-General, His Excellency General The Honourable David Hurley and his wife Her Excellency Mrs Linda Hurley, will make a State visit to New Zealand from Tuesday 16 April to Thursday 18 April. The visit reciprocates the State visit of former Governor-General Dame Patsy Reddy ...1 week ago
- Pseudoephedrine back on shelves for WinterAssociate Health Minister David Seymour has announced that Medsafe has approved 11 cold and flu medicines containing pseudoephedrine. Pharmaceutical suppliers have indicated they may be able to supply the first products in June. “This is much earlier than the original expectation of medicines being available by 2025. The Government recognised ...1 week ago
- NZ and the US: an ever closer partnershipNew Zealand and the United States have recommitted to their strategic partnership in Washington DC today, pledging to work ever more closely together in support of shared values and interests, Foreign Minister Winston Peters says. “The strategic environment that New Zealand and the United States face is considerably more ...1 week ago
- Joint US and NZ declarationApril 11, 2024 Joint Declaration by United States Secretary of State the Honorable Antony J. Blinken and New Zealand Minister of Foreign Affairs the Right Honourable Winston Peters We met today in Washington, D.C. to recommit to the historic partnership between our two countries and the principles that underpin it—rule ...1 week ago
- NZ and US to undertake further practical Pacific cooperationForeign Minister Winston Peters has announced further New Zealand cooperation with the United States in the Pacific Islands region through $16.4 million in funding for initiatives in digital connectivity and oceans and fisheries research. “New Zealand can achieve more in the Pacific if we work together more urgently and ...1 week ago
- Government redress for Te Korowai o WainuiāruaThe Government is continuing the bipartisan effort to restore its relationship with iwi as the Te Korowai o Wainuiārua Claims Settlement Bill passed its first reading in Parliament today, says Treaty Negotiations Minister Paul Goldsmith. “Historical grievances of Te Korowai o Wainuiārua relate to 19th century warfare, land purchased or taken ...1 week ago
- Focus on outstanding minerals permit applicationsNew Zealand Petroleum and Minerals is working to resolve almost 150 outstanding minerals permit applications by the end of the financial year, enabling valuable mining activity and signalling to the sector that New Zealand is open for business, Resources Minister Shane Jones says. “While there are no set timeframes for ...1 week ago
- Applications open for NZ-Ireland Research CallThe New Zealand and Irish governments have today announced that applications for the 2024 New Zealand-Ireland Joint Research Call on Agriculture and Climate Change are now open. This is the third research call in the three-year Joint Research Initiative pilot launched in 2022 by the Ministry for Primary Industries and Ireland’s ...1 week ago
- Tenancy rules changes to improve rental marketThe coalition Government has today announced changes to the Residential Tenancies Act to encourage landlords back to the rental property market, says Housing Minister Chris Bishop. “The previous Government waged a war on landlords. Many landlords told us this caused them to exit the rental market altogether. It caused worse ...1 week ago
- Boosting NZ’s trade and agricultural relationship with ChinaTrade and Agriculture Minister Todd McClay will visit China next week, to strengthen relationships, support Kiwi exporters and promote New Zealand businesses on the world stage. “China is one of New Zealand’s most significant trade and economic relationships and remains an important destination for New Zealand’s products, accounting for nearly 22 per cent of our good and ...1 week ago
- Freshwater farm plan systems to be improvedThe coalition Government intends to improve freshwater farm plans so that they are more cost-effective and practical for farmers, Associate Environment Minister Andrew Hoggard and Agriculture Minister Todd McClay have announced. “A fit-for-purpose freshwater farm plan system will enable farmers and growers to find the right solutions for their farm ...1 week ago
- Fire engineering expertise may take a big hit with job cuts at MBIE
The public sector cuts are poised to take out a big chunk of expertise at the country's building regulator. ...1 hour ago - “Fast-track Law To Kill Kiwi”: Students Say Fight Against Anti-democracy Legislation Is Only Jus...
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- Things that go buzz in the night – our global study found there really are more insects out after ...Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Mark Wong, Forrest Fellow, School of Biological Sciences, The University of Western Australia Have you ever wondered if there are more insects out at night than during the day? We set out to answer this question by combing through the scientific ...3 hours ago
- Why don’t Australians talk about their salaries? Pay transparency and fairness go hand-in-handSource: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Carol T Kulik, Research Professor, University of South Australia IR Stone/Shutterstock In Australia, it’s not the done thing to know – let alone ask – what our colleagues are paid. Yet, it’s easy to see how pay transparency can make pay ...3 hours ago
- ‘Character’ And Its Impact On Immigration StatusThe Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment (MBIE) is sounding a warning to migrants, that running foul of the law may see them leaving the country prematurely. ...3 hours ago
- 20,000 more on jobseeker benefits than this time last yearThe government’s plan to get 50,000 people off jobseeker support by 2030 has had a rocky start, writes Catherine McGregor in this excerpt from The Bulletin, The Spinoff’s morning news round-up. To receive The Bulletin in full each weekday, sign up here. Beneficiary numbers are up – and so are ...4 hours ago
- All of the Raglan Roast cafes in Wellington, ranked from worst to bestRaglan Roast is a staple of Wellington coffee culture. But with five branches across the capital, which one is the best? I am a die-hard Raglan Roast fan. It’s consistently the most affordable cafe in Wellington, and one of the only places you can get a coffee after 3pm. So, ...6 hours ago
- Auckland uni students threaten rent strike over rising accommodation feesResidents of University of Auckland halls are being urged to withhold their accommodation fees from May 1, in a bid to force the university to take student concerns over rent hikes seriously. The University of Auckland is facing a strike from students over the cost of on-campus accommodation. The Students ...6 hours ago
- Warning of death from a million cuts as Oceans Secretariat dissolved
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- Wellington’s ebb and flow of public servantsThe thousands of government “back-office” job cuts are causing widespread pain in the capital city. In today’s episode of The Detail, we speak to three journalists and a think tank researcher, looking at the larger picture around the cuts and what effect it will have on Wellington, a city that’s ...6 hours ago
- New Zealand transport planning has gone off the railsOpinion: The famed American architect and urban designer Daniel Burnham once said, “Make no little plans. They have no magic to stir men’s blood!” Burnham wouldn’t have been referring to the transport plans in Aotearoa New Zealand over the past five years; projects so big they hadn’t the credibility to ...6 hours ago
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- Missy rustles to stardom in CanadaHineaupounamu ‘Missy’ Nuku has been scaling mountains in Canada for her college basketball team, the Lakeland Rustlers. Alberta is currently home for the 20-year-old point guard, who is in her first year of a scholarship at Lakeland College, where she is studying for a business degree. She has certainly made ...6 hours ago
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- Grattan on Friday: Ethnic tensions will complicate the Albanese government’s multicultural policy ...Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Michelle Grattan, Professorial Fellow, University of Canberra When ASIO boss Mike Burgess delivered his annual threat assessment earlier this year, he stressed the rising danger posed by espionage and foreign interference. “In 2024, threats to our way of life have surpassed ...12 hours ago
- Group plans work to improve safety of female MPsNew research shows harassment of elected officials - especially women - is on the rise. ...13 hours ago
- Ukraine warns of WW3 ahead of long-stalled Congress aid voteUkraine's Prime Minister says his country desperately needs the US to approve long-stalled security assistance. ...15 hours ago
- PSA astonished Education Minister expects hiring of contractors to review curriculumHiring contractors is an appalling solution when people who could do the work are losing their jobs, the PSA says. ...16 hours ago
- Crown lawyers attempt to block Waitangi Tribunal summons to Minister for ChildrenThe Tribunal had called on Minister for Children Karen Chhour to provide evidence at an urgent inquiry into the repeal of Section 7AA of the Oranga Tamariki Act. ...17 hours ago
- Luxon refuses to guarantee public consultation on AUKUS Pillar 2Prime Minister Christopher Luxon says it's "far too premature" to be confirming whether the public would be consulted on joining AUKUS Pillar 2. ...18 hours ago
- Visualising the 1800s or designing wedding invitations: 6 ways you can use AI beyond generating textSource: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By T.J. Thomson, Senior Lecturer in Visual Communication & Digital Media, RMIT University Midjourney image by T.J. Thomson As more than half of Australian office workers report using generative artificial intelligence (AI) for work, we’re starting to see this technology affect every ...18 hours ago
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- Choice and control: will NDIS reforms mean people with disability don’t get to decide who they liv...Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Di Winkler, Adjunct Associate Professor, Living with Disability Research Centre, La Trobe University Shutterstock/Ground Picture Many Australians with disability feel on the edge of a precipice right now. Recommendations from the disability royal commission and the NDIS review were released late ...19 hours ago
- Asbestos in playground mulch: how to avoid a repeat of this circular economy scandalSource: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Salman Shooshtarian, Senior Lecturer, School of Property, Construction and Project Management, RMIT University Salman Shooshtarian Asbestos has been found in mulch used for playgrounds, schools, parks and gardens across Sydney and Melbourne. Local communities naturally fear for the health of their ...19 hours ago
- Could Albanese’s bet on homegrown green industries be the boost our regions deserve?Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Madeline Taylor, Senior Lecturer, Macquarie University Cloudy Designs/Shutterstock Right now, there’s a global race underway. The goal: bring back manufacturing and energy jobs as the energy transition speeds up. In 2022, America launched its mammoth Inflation Reduction Act and the ...19 hours ago
- Watch: Prime Minister Christopher Luxon won't say if government will consult public on joining ...Asked multiple times if the public will be consulted on joining the defence pact, Luxon repeatedly said that was yet to be worked through. ...19 hours ago
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- Māori lawyers call Shane Jones' Waitangi Tribunal comments 'inappropriate'The Māori Law Society says his comments breach the principle of the separation of powers and the Cabinet Manual. ...20 hours ago
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- Australia’s new defence strategy is big on ideas, but lacks one key ingredient: well-trained soldi...Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Peter Layton, Visiting Fellow, Strategic Studies, Griffith University There have been a lot of defence announcements recently about buying new equipment, building up Australia’s manufacturing capabilities, creating local jobs, new legislation to support AUKUS and even a new defence chief. In ...21 hours ago
- What does Steve Smith’s Stateside signing mean for cricket in the US – and Australia?Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Tim Harcourt, Industry Professor and Chief Economist, University of Technology Sydney Steve Smith, one of this generation’s finest batters, has conquered much of the cricketing world during his career, and he now has set his sights on a new frontier: the United ...21 hours ago
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- Minister Concedes Contractors Will Be Hired To Do Work Of Axed Ministry Of Education StaffThe PSA can’t believe that the Minister of Education is happy for her ministry to hire contractors at the same time it is dismissing 565 workers. ...21 hours ago
- Attempt to bar diplomat from Myanmar military junta failsMyanmar community members applied to the courts to bar the diplomat from attending the Association of Southeast Asian Nations. ...22 hours ago
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- AUKUS Pillar 2 a 'fragrant, methane-wrapped bull***' – Bob CarrThe former Australian Foreign Minister has continued to warn New Zealand against joining the defence pact. ...22 hours ago
- Enforceable undertaking issued to abc accounting services limited after continued non-compliance.The Department of Internal Affairs (DIA) has accepted an enforceable undertaking agreement from ABC Accounting Services Limited (ABC) under section 81 of the Anti-Money Laundering and Countering Financing of Terrorism Act 2009 (AML/CFT Act). ...23 hours ago
- REVEALED: RNZ’s Hypocrisy Over Fair Digital News Bargaining BillThe Taxpayers’ Union can reveal that Radio New Zealand (RNZ) spent $71,842.53 on Facebook advertising over the past 12 months, despite earlier this year coming out in support of the Fair Digital News Bargaining Bill , which would force the likes ...23 hours ago
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- An updated tally of the public sector job cutsThe coalition government has made it well known it expects departments to cut roles. We break down the numbers as they currently stand. Updated: 12pm, April 18 Before last year’s election, both National and Act made it clear that the public service was squarely in their crosshairs. Both parties, now ...23 hours ago
- Confessions of an unlikely petrolheadCheckered Flag director Natalie Wilson on her lifelong love of motorsport, and the allure of Pukekohe Park Raceway. One childhood summer when my world revolved around winning stuff off the radio, I bagged tickets to Western Springs Speedway and then to Waikaraka Park in what was a dream season for ...23 hours ago
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- ‘The right person’: What did Solomon Islanders vote for?By Koroi Hawkins, RNZ Pacific editor in Honiara After a relatively well organised and peaceful day of voting in Solomon Islands yesterday, the electoral commission is working with donor partners to safely transport ballot boxes from polling stations all over the country to centrally located counting venues. It is a ...1 day ago
- What it’s like to be made redundant by the Ministry of EducationI was one of hundreds of people who lost my government job this week. Here’s exactly how it played out. It is a Friday. I’m in the middle of an online Teams hui working out the finer details of a series of workshops we’ll be presenting next week. It’s a ...1 day ago
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- Why the kookaburra’s iconic laugh is at risk of being silencedSource: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Diana Kuchinke, Lecturer in Ecology, Federation University Australia Linda Robertus/Shutterstock Once, while teaching a class of environmental science students in China’s Hebei University of Science and Technology, I asked who knew what a laughing kookaburra was. There were many blank faces. ...1 day ago
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Here he is.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/alleged-isis-sympathiser-found-guilty-of-possessing-objectionable-hymns-acquitted-of-video-and-knife-charges/JF6SXPT46W5YYDG5S5O6F53Y34/
I sincerely wish all those who were injured a safe and full recovery. Thanks to the police who intervened and ensured no further people were injured and to those who have been watching the POS since whenever. Thanks also to the health professionals who are caring for the injured.
A few thoughts though. Why was the POS in this case too cowardly to go to Syria and fight for ISIS. Why was the POS from Christchurch too cowardly to go to Syria and fight against ISIS. That is the best ever thing they could have done and with some luck both died there. What gives these 2 POS, and any other like them, the idea that they have the right to come to our country and commit atrocities like they have. Anyone who holds similar views to the 2 POS, do us all a favour, f off to a country where there is a war and get yourselves shot there.
Finally, Cuba has a law on it's books which allows someone to be jailed for Amenaza, loosely translated posing a menace or dangerousness to society. It has been used for political purposes in that country. The 2 POS referred to above certainly qualify in my mind for a law such as that.
He was stopped at the airport when trying to leave for Syria
'In 2017, he was arrested at the airport after telling a person at an Auckland mosque he wanted to go to Syria “to fight for Isis”.
should have had a one way trip. if he survived don't bother coming back
As if Aucklanders don't have enough on their plate. That sucks.
Ahh well McFlock, it does take our minds off how hard done by we Aucklanders have been feeling these past two weeks.
No disrespect to those directly affected – especially the innocent shoppers who found themselves in the firing line. The psychological scars at the least will be with them forever.
that's the benefit for the terrorist 🙁
Presumably martyrdom and going to heaven with all those virgins I think. .
or the "lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death"
collins and seymor will be grandstanding and blaiming Ardern for letting this happen even though he was under surveillance by tomorrow night,
It's all a big mess bwaghorn. That's what Judy said on TV tonight. A BIG MESS.
Not that I want them to follow this advice but I think they should keep right away from it. The security problem has existed during both parties rule. I can't see any good political angle here.
The obvious answer is the POLICE WATCHING him 'let it happen', not the PM
“The man police shot dead in an Auckland supermarket today after stabbing several shoppers is a known Isis sympathiser whom police had previously arrested for allegedly planning a "lone wolf" knife attack.
He had only recently been released from prison and was under constant surveillance from police, including an armed tactical team, and national security agencies.”
Why had he not been deported from NZ before now.
Probably not deported from NZ because of his citizenship status. Should citizenship laws/rules be re-written?
Pete in one,YES.
If he's a NZ citizen, he can't be deported. If he's a Sri Lankan citizen with permanent residency, it's quite likely unsafe to deport him because the Sri Lankan govt doesn't fuck around when it comes to Muslim terrorists.
All reports say hes a Sri Lankan national who arrived in 2011.
Hes been under investigation or tried since around 2016 or so. No way would he have been given citizenship, doubtfull even had residency.
Just searched the Immigration and Protection Tribunal decisions database for Sri Lankan nationals.
The there seems to be a number of decisions in the right time frame that are supressed due to appeals.
So it's likely the second one – not safe to deport him back to Sri Lanka. I can't imagine the answer to the question could be "It didn't occur to anyone to try and deport him," or "they couldn't be arsed," or "they wanted to give him a fighting chance to kill NZers."
Ummm the guys dead, (cant say I'll lose sleep) how could sending him back been worse, ?
Because it would set a precedent and others could be sent "back" and be freer to cause harm on a global scale because they aren't monitored at home and those might not, in fact, cause any harm here? It's a vexed issue.
The law deals with principles, not tactical contingencies. Either it's OK to deport someone to a country that will mistreat them, or it isn't. Either it's OK to deport a known extremist to a country that won't monitor his activities, or it isn't. There is no "Yeah, but this guy…"
Mistreat him ?
If he was doing what he did here, openly following a terrorist entity, talking about attacking non believers with knives ( which he has in possesion) then surely the laws in Sri Lanka could be used against him.
He would have had to face the consequences of his actions and threats and if thats in jail or worse ( capital punishment) in Sri Lanka so be it.
I didn't mean he'd be mistreated, I meant he might be free to create greater harm in a country that doesn't monitor as closely as we do. He'd, for example, be able to associate with other like-minded individuals, have access to networks not available here etc.
In other words, tossing him out of NZ because he’s a threat to us, might cause far greater harm somewhere else on the planet (and New Zealanders live in other parts of the world, as do other humans.
This would be Sri Lanka…I doubt there could be greater harm from one deportee compared to what they have been through for a long time.
We wouldnt be sending him to Luxembourg.
Yes, mistreat him. In this instance, the Sri Lankan govt is known to have been involved in torture, arbitrary imprisonment and extrajudicial executions of opponents. As mentioned above, it's either OK to deport someone to a country that will mistreat them, or it isn't. As far as I'm aware, NZ govt is in the "isn't" camp.
Stop the hand wringing,Milt.So what about other countrys, they should be able to deal with as they see fit,is OK that our Police force have to go around using deadly force because of that bad acters from other Gov't.
NZ citizens can be deported and 15 were deported between 2012 and 2019.
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It is hard for a person to lose citizenship once they have it. An adult who becomes a citizen in another country can choose to give up New Zealand citizenship. There is a formal process to control how this step is taken. Otherwise, the Minister can remove a person's citizenship only if the Minister is satisfied that:
https://oag.parliament.nz/2013/citizenship/part3.htm
Can't deport him, can't send him to jail but he is known to the PM and has 4 armed officers following him. Labour don't want 501 legislation and want to reduce the prison population.
what a f up for the government. Election please
DNFTT
A village idiot will be along shortly to do that..
… want to reduce the prison population.
Anyone with a conscience thinks that the prison population should be drastically reduced. With the eventual aim, of course, of abolishing that wretched and brutalising institution.
what a f up for the government.
The government knew he was going to attack people this afternoon, did it? From where did you obtain that intelligence?
Election please
I think that's the last thing the beleaguered Judith Collins and her Nasty Party colleagues would want right now.
"Five years later, in 2016 he was warned by the police after posting material on the internet.
'In 2017, he was arrested at the airport after telling a person at an Auckland mosque he wanted to go to Syria'
'In 2018, he admitted charges of distributing material and the offensive weapon charge was dropped.
Police wanted to charge him with engaging in a terrorist act by “planning or otherwise preparing to cause the death of, or serious bodily injury to one or more persons”.
Justice Downs questioned whether planning or preparing an attack constituted a terrorist act..
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300399197/why-supermarket-terror-attacker-wasnt-charged-under-terror-laws-despite-being-on-watchlist
Stupid twat Dogma. He spent 6 years living under the Key government and 4 years under the current government. He went on the terror watch list a year or two before Ardern became PM so… if anyone is to blame its the Nat. Govt.
In reality neither are to blame but obviously reality is something you don't have the grey matter to comprehend.
John Key would have been made aware of this as well 2016.
Terrorist my arse
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300316980/dunedin-supermarket-stabbing-accused-keeps-name-suppression-for-now
The Dunedin guy is well known & has mental issues. Stop conflating, show some respect for the victims.
Conflating my arse…both have mental health issues
What's your point here Pat. Better to say it out loud.
Already have…and if it aint plain enough for you then youre thick
[Ban until the morning to cool off. – weka]
I suspect that there are a number of political staffers working overtime trying to work out how to present views. I get the feeling the Crown's attempt to lift suppression orders is causing some nervousness. Meanwhile on twitter a whole lot of limited follower accounts with numbers at the end of their names have appeared.
Kiwiblog ….
Quick to judge and blame the gun buybacks ‘not working’
Complete fools
I just had a look. Fark …
Generally not the greatest of thinkers at kiwiblog. Like someone would be wandering Lynnmall with a semiautomatic weapon or a pump action shotgun or a pistol in the middle of a west Auckland shopping mall and could use it to defend anyone.
The Avondale police or the AOS would rightly consider any such ‘hero’ to be a problem and probably shoot them, or if they survived – charge them, convict them, and throw them in jail.
As group they really are as thick as two short planks at Kiwiblog. The people who exhibit actual logic are few and far between
". Like someone would be wandering Lynnmall with a semiautomatic weapon or a pump action shotgun or a pistol in the middle of a west Auckland shopping mall and could use it to defend anyone."
The picture at the top of this post shows just such a person. In fact he appears to be carrying two of the three weapons you mention. Are you saying that his actions are futile.
It shows someone who just happened to be wandering around Lynnmall with those weapons? Are you sure about that?
"who just happened to be wandering around". Am I sure of that? Of course not. I never made the statement though did I? Someone else did say something similar but it wasn't me. Stop trying to put words in my mouth.
Nobody did that. But folks seem to have foolishly assumed that the words that come out of your computer have some relevance to the words you quote at the beginning of your comment.
You OK Alwyn ? Being blind to context and all that.
Iprent You can be a nasty bastard sometimes,not a daily blog reader. with all due respect,Al
What does Kiwiblog have to do with The Daily Blog? Nothing I hope.
I seldom read the daily blog since Bomber asked me to remove it from the Feeds list years ago. It tended to be repetitive and rather boring with some of the authors (bomber in particular). I used to scan the listing and mostly just read the authors whose opinions were worth thinking about. I'd also sample the repetitive authors sometimes to see if I was still correctly guessing what they'd say. Once the listing was gone, then there wasn't an easy way to scan for content worth perusing with my limited time.
Same problem underlying problems with kiwiblog. It was too easy to guess what David Farrar would say next. Too easy to predict the general structure of any 'debate'. About the only thing of interest was predicting how long it would be before any well-argued contrarian opinions would get hidden. I don't think I have looked at KB in the last 6 months.
Incidentally I do the same thing with TV. Guessing the arc of a storyline from early on in a movie or TV series and then matching it with the book or other media that the script-writers plagiarised it from.
It isn't so much that I'm nasty (although I get quite irritated with repetitive bullshit), it is that I don't really have any time nor inclination to expand out other peoples assertions enough to point to the completely obvious flaws in their well-known arguments in a nice way.
Which is what my comment did in a sufficient and irritated way.
lprent Thanks for the reply,yes wrong blog(mind you me neither),and thanks again for clarification,you are doing good keeping this site up and running,cheers Al
The 2020 annual report of the Security Intelligence Service (SIS) said: "During the past year, between 30 and 50 individuals have been under active investigation by the NZSIS in relation to violent extremism at any one time."
Every one of these, unless they were born in NZ , should be deported back to wherever they came from.
It is clear we are starting to reap what we have sown” with the kind of immigration we opened up/allowed over the last more than 15 years.
Obviously we haven't imported a very good class of people, who background checks these people b4 they come into the country ?
What makes you think that these extremists under surveillance are all immigrants? The only thing that these extremists, share is that they hold extremist views and are so obsessive and fanatical that they are out of touch with reality.
Any person who think's it a great idea to go to a supermarket on a Friday afternoon, grab a knife and start stabbing people at random has mental problems. You can cloak that in ideology, that's fine, but that is not the act of a mentally well person. The humanity of the person has been poisoned. Brevik the same. What's his name in CHCH likewise. Ad Infinitum.
More of a cold blooded killer , than someone who fits into the mental health spectrum.
I think you are using the term too loosely…. and wrongly implicating an 'illness' at the core of his beliefs.
Probably. It angers me. The older I get the more difficultly I have handling mans inhumanity to man.
More ad nauseum….
Dunno about that one – there's probably a line between being unwell to the point it degrades your ability to know whether an action is right or wrong, and a deep political belief or hatred that skews or overrules your ethical calculations.
That having been said, being personally followed constantly by armed police for 4 or 5 years, even in L4 when they'd stick out like a sore thumb? That wouldn't help anyone's noggin.
Only been followed since his recent release from custody, by my read.
fair enough – still early days in the information. Some reports were even saying the first people he attacked were the officers following him.
aj they may have a mental problem, but the law has a really tight definition around criminal acts and mental illness.
If a defendent was so out of touch with reality at the time of the crime i.e. psychotic and believing their delusions or the voices in their head telling them to kill people, then their lawyer will plead not guitly by reason of insanity. Usually when this is the case and it is a geniune plea the crown lawyers agree and that person is sentenced to a secure mental health facility.
Otherwise, even if you have mental health problems, if you are not out of touch with reality, then you are responsibile for your actions.
The guy in Dunedin and the Isis supporter today are likely to have a very different profile. I don't know a lot about the psychology of terrorists. but there will be a unique way of conceptualizing them, in part to help us understand how come they become like this
Years (post 2001, but before 2010) ago at a foreign policy thinkfest I sat through some yank talking about a new word he'd developed to describe "extremist" beliefs (guess which religion he fixated on) as a pseudo-mental disorder. The word was Greek and everything lol.
To me it seemed like a large amount of effort just to avoid considering their actual motivations. Not sure any of the people in the room saw any useful application for it, either.
Arh yes….people and their psychological hypothesis that have not be tested…..
I doubt that pseudo mental disorder is in DSM 5, even as a disorder that warrents further. study.
But I know very little about the psychological profiles of terrorists. I imagine they have excessively rigid all or nothing thinking, lack of empathy, and intense loyalty to a political cause. With white supremiscists hard to imagine there isn't a good deal of narcissim "thinks they should only associate with "special people" and either idealizes or devalues others………but I am only speculating here.
Narcissism and psychopathy are hall-marks of terrorists be they of the right or the left.
For some, sure – the Norwegian dick comes to mind as being narcissistic and insecure, apparently he'd had a fair bit of plastic surgery and was incredibly image conscious.
But terrorism is a big field – crusaders, screwed up teens, mercenaries, people avenging family or personal trauma, and so on. Some are pretty sad characters.
The largest change in recent years, I suspect, is that a lot of the support pyramid is distributed online rather than personal contact. And that also involves the preparation of individuals.
Basically, there's a pyramid model of terrorism, where the actual terrorists are the pointy top, immediate logistics, commanders, training etc are just below, then there's less direct support in the community (money, resources, propaganda, recruitment to non-terrorist but allied political orgs), and then finally just the community perception – are these good guys or bad guys. So someone in the community might be identified as sympathetic, asked to help in a little way, and then there's a program of escalation, rewards for achievement, reinforcement that they're doing the right thing, and so on right up to when the recruit is at the pointiest end of the pyramid.
Nowadays a lot of the immaterial support comes online, so isolation helps escalate the motivations for actual murder.
And then there are the precipitating events that help motivate someone to put their fantasies into action – close people dying, redundancy/stress, that sort of thing.
Only 2-5% of people are actually able to kill without conscience, but the other bit of that is that almost anyone can be built up to kill with the right preparation and methodical psychological conditioning (in all senses of the word).
Why at that moment did he grab a knife at the supermarket ? Something he saw, heard, smelt triggered it, some remembered insult or snub or fear or grief, perhaps inherited. Was he acting reflexively or with the will to defend himself ? If the police had disabled him and preserved his life and he had lived to testify I might have got answers to at least some of my questions. Where do I look for answers now ?
I think Grafton Gully there is likely a well formuated body of literature on terrorists.
Yes. His ideation was centered on knives and murdering people. yes really.
He was reported as telling a jury…Take one knife off me and Ill get 5 more.
I don't doubt that he had homicidal ideation ghost. As I said I am not an expert in terrorists. But it sounds like he had homicidal ideation for sometime
Or he's just an evil scumbag who loves violence – – no need to stigmatise mental illness.
I'd say that a judge will be working tomorrow to hear appeals from the Government and the MSM.
Look for an amendment to the name suppression part of the Criminal Procedure Act 2011 sometime in the future.
Can refugees be deported?
Justice Downs when ruling against the Supression of Terrorism Act being used had a thought experiment about possibly 'a shopping mall knife attack in broad daylight.'
I read some very unflattering opinions online about Justice Downs who was appointed in 2016. Cant possibly repeat them here even though they are legally focused
This is what the Judge was reported as saying when this person couldnt be charged with planning an attack
‘He said he could not know what the planned “knife attack” scenario put forward by the Crown actually entailed, and therefore he could not evaluate it.
“Is it, for example, an attack in broad daylight in a busy shopping centre while the defendant repeatedly yells support for Islamic State? Or an attack under cover of darkness with no witnesses in which the defendant says nothing?”
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300399197/why-auckland-terror-attacker-wasnt-charged-under-terror-laws-despite-being-on-watchlist
Seems like scenario proposed was eventually real.
Its strange as the Terrorism Suppression Act does have a section on planning an attack, which is treated as it had occured.
Either the Police prosecutors need to appeal this kind of case faster, or New Zealand is going to need a dedicated court for anything with terror-related charges.
The Act spells out that planning is covered. The Judge seems to have decided that the case for planning wasnt 'specific' enough. ie day or night , location and methods.
All the better to appeal.
Yes. look how many times the Crown appealed the Kim Dotcom decisions even when it was a scintilla favourable to him- and he did the same when it came against him
Thats what the Court of Appeal is for creating a 'coat from cloth' in the way the bare words are interpreted. Especially when the clause is specifically about planning and preparation. The kitchen situation comes to mind.
Obviously not a lateral thinker, he wanted specifics ?
Yes. The judges comments were that the prosecution hadnt shown whether the defendant would attack 'under the cover of darkness' or 'in broad daylight in a shopping centre' [Yes he did say THAT]
Guess what. If people have or could possibly die what purpose does it achieve wheter its day or night.
Its the most absurd 'black letter lawyering' that you could imagine. This wasnt some ordinary person, they already would have had a preponderance of evidence of what his intentions would be. He even said so…'the 5 knives'
If the sentencing was absurd, why would govt decide the law needed changing?
Wasnt the sentencing, as the trial for the planning a terrorist attack didnt happen or charges dismissed ( not sure which)
The High Court judge ruled that the evidence from prosecution for his plan wasnt detailed enough. Wasnt helped by the case being heard by a very bright but pompous judge.
S25 of Terrorism Supression Act seems ridicuously brief compared to the convoluted legalese of other parts.
Yet S25 was the core of 'committing , planning, implementing' a terrorist act.
Where are you getting these impressions of the judge's character?
Section 25 defines "terrorist act" but you have to work through the offence defining sections to see what the elements of each offence is.
Another weak young man with an inflated sense of his own importance, I am guessing.
But he's a judge, he can't be that young.
…presumably you know I wasn't referring to the judge!
Yep – that would be Gabby
Most judges are not very worldly and are mainly ex Lawyers who are a different breed and a law unto themselves.
So the Prime Minister said that this attacked was Isis-inspired.
And also that the state had utilised every legal and surveillance power available to us to keep people safe from this individual.
"Last year, the Crown had sought to prosecute S under the Terrorism Suppression Act 2002, but a High Court judge ruled that preparing a terrorist attack was not in itself an offence under the legislation.
Neither defences give any comfort.
“On May 26 this year, he was found guilty by a jury of possessing propaganda-style material supportive of Islamic State.
He was acquitted on other charges of possessing a graphic video depicting a prisoner being decapitated and possession of an offensive weapon."
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/auckland-mall-terrorist-attack-isis-sympathiser-had-been-arrested-for-allegedly-planning-lone-wolf-knife-attack/YJMR4NTEU5Q6DO7NSZP7BGIKDM/
There must seriously be a Ministerial Inquiry into this.
If after the re-tooling and re-funding of the intelligence services and the focus on extremists we apparently have, why is it possible for them to harm us so much?
I am pleased that our Police were armed quick enough to shoot him.
But with the Afghan withdrawal and the 9/11 anniversary occurring so close now, we have both 15 March and early September to be super-vigilant for.
I expect, with COVID on top of that, we are going to have security screens for trains and malls. More and more freedoms lost to protect from a tiny few.
Can the Prime Minister not simply name and shame that super-risky few in New Zealand? I would prefer that their human rights were decreased rather than mine are continually eroded.
If the High Court can't protect us with prosecution of planned attack, I want to see the Police take this to the Supreme Court.
We don't deserve a diminished society.
Society/civilization has built-in, self-diminishment, doesn't it? We are crammed together, under-pressure, pointlessly-striving, spiritually-depleted, politically-manipulated, culturally-prejudiced and as a result, have to impose or live under a raft of restrictions on our behaviour. It's part & parcel of being civilised.
Exactly the opposite. We gathered together first in Gobekle Tepe to celebrate the cosmos 11,000 years ago and put walls up in Jericho two thousand years later to protect our rights from chaos and war.
We flourish through organisation, co-operation, and political organisation.
Maybe just wind it back a bit with the all-encompassing National Greographic abstract nouns about civilisation, and stick to the improvements we need to make right here and rightnow.
Well, we could foster cooperation, rather than competition (for a start).
How on earth do you think cities run?
I was alluding to the mechanics of the discussion here 🙂
I think cities run on complex, untidy, sometime decrepit lines like a poorly-constructed coral reef without the elegance and with a great deal of waste and loss of non-human life. There is a semblance of cooperation (stop at the red light!) and a mess of "cheats" (drive through if it's late at night and no one's about). Cities "run" but run badly and aren't sustainable in the long term.
"What man has done to man has no limit. He has tortured him; he has burned him; he has killed him; he has exploited him in every possible way—religious, political and economic. This has been the story of man against man; the clever exploit the stupid, the ignorant. All philosophies are intellectual and therefore not whole. These philosophies have enslaved man. They have invented concepts of what society should be and sacrificed man to their concepts; the ideals of the so-called thinkers have dehumanized man. Exploitation of another man or woman seems to be the way of our daily life. We use each other, and each one accepts this. Out of this peculiar relationship, dependence arises with all the misery, confusion and agony that is inherent in dependence. Man has been both inwardly and outwardly so treacherous to himself and to others. How can there be love in these circumstances?" —Krishnamurti
Schopenhauer was worse.
Not sure how the fatalists are really helping anything here.
Probably not helping, but teasing out the core reasons, perhaps.
Have you read of this experiment?
The "Universe 25" experiment is one of the most terrifying experiments in the history of science, which, through the behavior of a colony of mice, is an attempt by scientists to explain human societies. The idea of "Universe 25" Came from the American scientist John Calhoun, who created an "ideal world" in which hundreds of mice would live and reproduce. More specifically, Calhoun built the so-called "Paradise of Mice", a specially designed space where rodents had Abundance of food and water, as well as a large living space. In the beginning, he placed four pairs of mice that in a short time began to reproduce, resulting in their population growing rapidly. However, after 315 days their reproduction began to decrease significantly. When the number of rodents reached 600, a hierarchy was formed between them and then the so-called "wretches" appeared. The larger rodents began to attack the group, with the result that many males begin to "collapse" psychologically. As a result, the females did not protect themselves and in turn became aggressive towards their young. As time went on, the females showed more and more aggressive behavior, isolation elements and lack of reproductive mood. There was a low birth rate and, at the same time, an increase in mortality in younger rodents. Then, a new class of male rodents appeared, the so-called "beautiful mice". They refused to mate with the females or to "fight" for their space. All they cared about was food and sleep. At one point, "beautiful males" and "isolated females" made up the majority of the population. As time went on, juvenile mortality reached 100% and reproduction reached zero. Among the endangered mice, homosexuality was observed and, at the same time, cannibalism increased, despite the fact that there was plenty of food. Two years after the start of the experiment, the last baby of the colony was born. By 1973, he had killed the last mouse in the Universe 25. John Calhoun repeated the same experiment 25 more times, and each time the result was the same.
Calhoun's scientific work has been used as a model for interpreting social collapse, and his research serves as a focal point for the study of urban sociology.
~Dutch Medicine Man~
That's all from me.
Nope, a 1970s cannabilistic mouse experiment isn't helping either.
This post is discussing a terrorist attack just 5 kms from me.
Take mouse experiment bullshit off to Open Mike.
These philosophies have enslaved man.
They were less oppressive in general, than the sophistries that preceded them, and the postmodernism that came after them.
Surely he could have been held under the Mental Health Act as a Nut Job ?
The problem for the government is that we are now told that there is legislation pending that might have given the authorities the power to have (probably) prevented this incident but that has been moving very slowly through its various processes.
This is in stark contrast to the speed in which the very necessary guns laws were brought after the Christchurch Mosque attacks.
The existing legislation does cover planning a terrorist attack.
'(a)planning or other preparations to carry out the act, whether it is actually carried out or not:'
It was a very strange decision from an odd judge. It was clear to 'other preparations' covers a wider area than detailed plans or a specific time or day or method
From what I have heard in media from legal experts so far, isn't the fundamental issue that this would take our law into what people are thinking rather than doing (including speech acts)? I can understand judges wanting clarity from government about the boundaries of that change.
And government picking it up as a law change suggests validity.
The judges ruling led to that, he had a very narrow view on preparations. he was googling stuff , as they do.
If a judge was off the mark on something like that, I'd expect Crown Law or the Solicitor-General to appeal. If instead it is picked up by government as a required law change..
There is now a separate post about the legal aspects: https://thestandard.org.nz/the-politics-of-the-new-lynn-attack/
The law is a very grey area and subject to legal interpretation by a Judge, he obviously saw no risk to the community and ruled accordingly.
[Why are you using two different user names under the same Post? Looking at your history here it appears that this is a habit of yours, a bad habit, because it is deceptive to others. You seem to have had a few run-ins with Moderation here.
Please explain.
Please stick to one user name only when you comment here, from now on, thanks – Incognito]
See my Moderation note @ 12:51 pm.
Apologise sometimes forget which site I am on, have been inactive for a few years. Sincere apologies.
As a former MP for New Lynn who loves it still, I just want to register my shock and sadness that this has happened, my utter abhorrence of the cowardly attack on unarmed shoppers, and my deep sympathies to those injured and their familes.
As The Standard contributors are rightly doing in this thread, we will all need to consider the adequacy and operation of our anti terrorism laws, balanced with protection of the civil liberites that are the foundation of our beautiful and diverse community.
One thing is for sure – the lowlife who committed this act was rightly stopped by police before he could harm others, and we all wish the intervention could have saved those who were hurt.
My heart goes out to the New Lynn communitty, to Sri Lankan Kiwis who in no way share any responsibility for this, and especially for the vicitms and their families. Arohanui te whanau.
Thank-you David. That is obviously a very heartfelt contribution. May we see more of them from time to time at this site.
Thanks Anne I will look to drop un more oftne. Miss you guys!
Thanks David well said.
Aye arohanui te whanau.
Cheers man.
100% David.
The Herald, unusually , looks back in its archives for some relevant background which doesnt put Collins in a good light.. Could it again call into question her judgement.
When asked about this on RNZ.
‘Asked about her comments in 2013 about having no substantial or urgent concerns with New Zealand’s counter terrorism legislation, she said it was “really unfair” to ask her about decisions from eight years ago.’
So unfair is it?
Just a point of clarification.
Did the place take 60 secs to arrive, or was it over in 60 sec?
The head of police said it took the officers in the store 60 seconds after the attack started to confront and shoot the terrorist.
Thanks.
Now its changed to be longer …maybe 90 sec from the first stabbing to the undercover police moving from outside the entrance where they were waiting.
Now 150 seconds. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/auckland-mall-terrorist-attack-terrorists-history-in-courts-jail-judge-declined-gps-tracking-police-officers-waited-at-supermarket-entrance-up-to-two-and-a-half-minutes-between-first-of-7-stabbings-fatal-shooting/W6GC2GZQO6LZU33JNFMEYYPEFU/
Obviously the Police realized he was a high risk individual to the community, the Judiciary thought otherwise.
Got any links to support that claim?
Contains this afternoon's briefing from the PM (9m20 clip): https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/450756/new-lynn-terror-attack-update-every-legal-avenue-was-tried
Various short RNZ interviews in here: https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/450750/new-zealand-counter-terrorism-legislation-outdated-law-experts