“The degree to which you resist is the degree to which you are free”

Korean War veteran turned anarchist, folk singer, organiser and Wobbly, philosopher and one time US presidential candidate. In one of a series of interviews in 2004, Utah Phillips talks with deep ethical intelligence about the folk music movement in the US but much of what he says applies to activism and resistance everywhere.

He describes his process of refusing to cede his personal means of production, how he figured out how to make a living and not a killing, and his choices to not buy into the corporate music industry despite an offer from Johnny Cash. He also describes the organised folk scene as the healthiest movement in the US, where people are getting off the internet and organising via sharing food and music and doing that below the level that the media notice.

“I’m an anarchist, I don’t make rules for other people, I make rules for myself”.

(6 mins 29)

Utah Phillips and Ani DiFranco singing The Most Dangerous Woman (Mother Jones)

(3 mins 48)

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