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The more things change…

Written By: - Date published: 6:18 am, August 28th, 2008 - 18 comments
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70 years ago (more or less) and The Standard was correctly predicting a Labour victory as the ‘Nationalists’ ramped up a hollow election campaign. In true Standard-style, there’s even some stats. Click on the image for the full article.

18 comments on “The more things change… ”

  1. Labour have enjoyed gutter tactics within the Absolute Power regime for nearly a decade. Children of the future will study them as a case study in political corruption in social studies. People will ask how did you old chaps endure such government deception? With great difficulty will be the reply.
    Good things take time and you are history Miss Clark the dishonest one !!!! I savour the day someone opens your hideous dark agenda.

  2. monkey boy 2

    John Key has done the right thing. he has announced that he will not work with Winston peters post election, unless Peters clears his name over the Owen Glenn fiasco.
    Helen Clark has painted her prevarication as a ‘duty to be fair’ but few are fooled by this high-sounding bullshit – it is evident if this is about fair-play, then her continued employment of Winston is as effective as a sticking plaster over a severed artery.
    And still no election date announcement. Despite the fact we have endured restrictions over what we may or may not legally express since January 2008.
    Yesterday, it was suggested taht Labour must hold on as long as possible before an election as they have lots of legislation to pass first.
    I suggest that the only thing left for Helen Clark (if she wants to appear in possession of any ethical standing) will be to fast-forward the call for an election, it is the only way to blow this particular fiasco from the front pages.
    I thought that given the stacking of important positions with Labour-party ex-MPs and sympathisers would signal they are gearing up for this, coupled with the little things, like the Labour Party website now being chocka with policy announcements, and the judicious application of the ‘secret agenda’ meme now starting to bear fruit.
    The Labour-led Government (with apologies to the EC) is now like the Titanic in the hour after hitting the iceberg. It’s passengers all playing with the ice, on their ‘unsinkable’ vessel, the band in full swing, champagne on tap. While underneath them, the ship is silently shipping water.
    History has proven that when there is a scarcity of lifeboats, Helen Clark, rather than be pushed into the icey waters, will be the first to grab one for herself.
    Lee -monkeywithtypewriter

  3. Pascal's bookie 3

    “John Key has done the right thing. he has announced that he will not work with Winston peters post election, unless Peters clears his name over the Owen Glenn fiasco.
    Helen Clark has painted her prevarication as a ‘duty to be fair’ but few are fooled by this high-sounding bullshit”

    Lee, what actual difference is there between the two postions? I think you’ve been suckered by Key’s desk thumping bullshit. What Key is saying is that if the electorate returns WP, and Key needs him, then Key will give WP a fair hearing to, erm, clear his name.

  4. higherstandard 4

    Election dates should be enshrined in law not left up to the whim of incumbent governments.

  5. monkey-boy 5

    Bookie – You inadvertently nailed it with the term ‘desk-thumping’. It’s about perceptions. When Key does not state a positon he is ‘slippery’ when he does, he is ‘tubthumping. I thought of all people a Bookie would be averse to anyone having a bob-both-ways! I’m saying that the game is more subtle – Key is turning up the heat, because it suits National to have an earlier election.
    Clark may find herself with no other alternative than to go early if she is not careful. The Titanic shipping water? That’s a reference to how public perception will be affecting Helen and Labour after Key’s ‘desk-thumping’.
    And the band played on….
    Anyway gottsa go – have a nice day y’all and remember, – women and children first!
    Lee -monkeywithtypewriter

  6. Bill 6

    Monkey boy said – ”

    John Key has done the right thing. he has announced that he will not work with Winston peters post election, unless Peters clears his name over the Owen Glenn fiasco.”

    Thing is, that’s not what I heard him say on Campbell. What I heard him say was that he Peters would not be in a Nat led cabinet.

    That is a long way from ‘not working with’

    Anyway.

  7. slightlyrighty 7

    ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!

    You cannot be serious!

  8. dung_beetle 8

    The Standard – completely delusional since 1938.

  9. Patrick 9

    dung_beetle – The Standard were correct. Labour won 55% of the vote in 1938, despite MJS being seriously ill during most of the campaign.

    [lprent: I was about to censure you for talking about the opinions of a machine, but then I realised it was the origional Standard 😳 which probably did have editors. ]

  10. randal 10

    along with all the deluded nats who think they can bully everyone and every institution in the pantheon for their exclusive benefit. whata gang of frauds. the whole point of the westminster system is that the prime minister has the power to call an election when ever they see fit and not when the caterwalling claques demand it like boobies calling feed me feed feed me!!! mathewww hooton was nearly sh*tting himslef this morning on nine to noon. that is very much worth the price of admission. hohohohoho

  11. Daveski 11

    Randal – must say your posts have an inimitable flavour!

    No one here is denying that. What some of us are saying is it takes two to tango – you want policies and meaningful political engagement, call an election.

    Here’s a thought Randal. How about you write a Standard-flavour post if it was John Key who was holding out on calling an election. I’ll help you with some of the key words (geddit??):
    – scandal
    – secret agenda
    – slippery
    – metaphor (hell, if SP can sneak that one is so can i!)
    – hollow
    – anti-democratic

  12. Felix 12

    monkey-boy:

    It’s Key who’s having a bob each way, as in “absolutely wont work with him, not on my watch, no chance… unless he’s innocent in which case I take it all back”

    He’s not actually taking a position while pretending to take a firm one. Someone as smart as you shouldn’t be fooled by such a cheap and obvious trick.

  13. J Mex 13

    Looks like someone inadvertently left off the “humour” tag.

    Captcha: “County Oxford”. No relevence whatsoever!

  14. Patrick 14

    By the way, it’s great to see historical stuff like this, especially given the relevance of the source.

  15. Daveski 15

    Agreed Patrick

    Sadly, NZ has an ingrained antipathy towards history which is one of the reasons that blogs like this is one of the few places where you will see any genuine political debate

    My only comment is that the Labour party of 2008 is quite a different beast to the Labour party of 1938 although harking back to past glories is politics 101 stuff.

  16. Phil 16

    It’s official; Steve Pierson is actually Dr Who

  17. dung_beetle 17

    Patrick says: The Standard were correct. Labour won 55% of the vote in 1938, despite MJS being seriously ill during most of the campaign.

    dung_beetle says: Is Helen suffering from mental illness then? She appears to have no physical ailments. If you think that Labour are going to sweep 55% of this election vote then…

    The Standard – completely delusional since 1938

    Daveski says: blogs like this is one of the few places where you will see any genuine political debate…

    dunc_beetle laughs: blogs like this is one of the few places where you will see any genuine delusion…

    [lprent: Looks like another troll to me. I’ll let him roll their dung bundle for a while and observe to see if they can use their brains. So far looks at least vaguely amusing. I wonder if they have looked at About and Policy yet? ]

  18. monkey-boy 18

    Felix yes I understand what you are saying – I am talking about public perceptions and how it impacts on the election

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