The Power of Anger

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We’ve all felt it, anger, simmering or raging inside us. We have experienced it, at the hands of parents, partners, friends, teachers, colleagues, bosses, strangers, you name it. Most of us do almost anything to avoid it, to risk confrontation with another angry person or our angry self. Some of us can’t control it; they have so-called anger issues like Jake the Muss.

Generally, anger is perceived as a negative and even destructive emotion. Daily events that make us angry, e.g. the angry driver who cuts us off on the motorway and gives us the finger, are quickly and all too easily neutralised by going on-line and watching a ‘healthy’ dose of fluffy kittens (no offence to Mort) or smiling babies on social media or a violent movie in which the ‘good’ girl/guy (with whom we inevitably identify) always comes out on top. Suffice to say that this is often helped with a drink or some other mind-altering substance, i.e. self-medicating to de-stress. Life may not be perfect but it is tolerable this way, right?

Given that we have been brought up to treat anger with suspicion and fear even and thus something to be avoided, it comes as no surprise that many people have no idea how to deal with their own anger let alone that of others. Politicians are no exception. In fact, an angry politician is a bad or at least ineffective politician (e.g. “angry Andy”) because he or she is less rational and thus inferior because the thinking process and decision making is contaminated with/by emotions. Keep your emotions under control or even better, keep them out of the political process altogether, seems to be the dogma.

This perception of the role of anger in politics was confirmed again in a recent short discussion thread here on TS. Luckily, one commenter argued the opposite, that anger can be a catalyst for change. Indeed, anger can be a very powerful energy when harnessed and channelled appropriately. In fact, I’d argue that there’s not enough political anger in New Zealand. Instead, we have an apathetic populace and electorate and we have politicians who tippy-toe around the voters in fear of upsetting anybody and least of all the business community.

Anger can be an excellent motivator for action, e.g. when one is faced with an injustice be it a personal or social one. Instead of whinging & whining, moaning & complaining, criticising & ridiculing, we can all become activists in our own right to make this a better world, for ourselves and for others.

But here’s the thing, it is essential that our anger does not get its own voice. Rather, we need to get a handle on it and integrate into everything we think, say and do. And this is not a small task! The PC brigade is lurking around every corner. We must not upset anybody and even provide safe havens in universities for the precious little snowflakes who cannot handle too much human emotion on display. The latest fad on show on Netflix is the MMA (Mind Martial Art) of Tae Kondo which goes by the motto “Don’t be angry, be tidy”. The presumption is, I assume, that a tidy organized outer life with everything folded neatly away in tiny boxes in drawers leads to a serene peaceful inner life of joy and happiness. Hardly the world in which our raw emotions try to turn us into a raging Hulk in a blink of an eye.

This is nothing new but seems to come more to the fore around this time of the year when people feel (more) inclined to reflect and plan (dream) for the future. Yes, weed out harmful and (self-) damaging ideas but do not pretend you can or should throw away the negative stuff inside your head. There is no way we can shove the stuff we don’t like about ourselves in a rubbish bin or a drawer in the basement or attic and throw away the key thinking (hoping) that we’ll never have to deal with it again. The human psyche doesn’t work this way, apparently, and we would deny a large part of ourselves and stymie our psychological growth and development. Sweat the small stuff, it doesn’t matter how trivial it seems. If it helps us realise that there are no inner demons other than (only!) our shadow side then it becomes a very valuable thing or experience indeed.

However, there’s a more dangerous and sinister problem with not facing up to our ‘negative’ side. Some people are very good finding those messy drawers hidden in the basements of our psyche and they can use the contents to exploit our weakness and play us like a fiddle. Think of it like a computer hack in which the hacker can, in some cases, gain full control of your device, sometimes even without you realising it. Such people used to be called demagogues but nowadays they are most commonly called and known as populists.

We and politicians alike should face up (or down) to the side of ourselves we’d rather not know and use it to our advance. The energy that becomes available, instead of being used to keep the lid on our shadow side firmly down & closed, can be used to accomplish much-needed action for change. We will also gain a better understanding and appreciation of another person’s drive and passion and we will be better able to build bridges, find common ground, and collaborate instead of staying polarised and being defensive and competitive at the same time.

So, when you are angry, do not count till 10, but look inside and dig deep to find the origin of this anger, become aware and conscious of it. Then embrace it and make it your tool, your Stormbreaker so to speak, which only you can control. Alternatively, stick with the status quo and live long and prosper.

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  1. Gosman 1
    28 January 2019 at 9:02 am

    The trouble is that in searching for the ‘origin’ of the anger people are prone to being convinced that the cause is something that then leads to rather unpleasant and damaging consequences. Trump uses anger to motivate his support base in the USA. Maduro uses it for the same purpose in Venezuela. It becomes easy for despotic rulers and political movements to manipulate anger to serve their own ends because usually rationality and logic goes out the window when anger is involved.

    • Chris T 1.1
      28 January 2019 at 6:29 pm

      “Trump uses anger to motivate his support base in the USA.”

      Disagree with this

      Yes he does a few times, but think he more often uses irrational fear.

      Those different and unknown – Illegal immigrants
      Genuinely scary people he hypes up the likelihood of attacking the US en masse – Terrorists (But tbf every president has used this one since 9/11
      Everyone you hear apart from me is lying to you – His “fake news”. Congress etc etc

      Nutter, but you can’t deny he is a clever one

  2. Morrissey 2
    28 January 2019 at 9:19 am

    Maduro = Trump?!??!??

    Te Reo, LPrent—this idiocy has to stop.

    • Adrian Thornton 2.1
      28 January 2019 at 9:32 am

      +1, Gosman is pure trolling, of the most vile and revolting type.

      • Gosman 2.1.1
        28 January 2019 at 9:35 am

        You are quite right. Madure is much worse than Trump. At least Trump has democratic legitimacy.

        • te reo putake 2.1.1.1
          28 January 2019 at 9:39 am

          To be fair, Maduro got the majority of votes in his Presidential election. Trump … not so much.

          • Gosman 2.1.1.1.1
            28 January 2019 at 9:44 am

            Except Trump won in an election that wasn’t boycotted by the main opposition parties and that the opposition and many local and international election observers did not declare as being fixed.

            However I digress from the OP. I will refrain from further refererences to Trump or Maduro as I have made my point about them.

            • Morrissey 2.1.1.1.1.1
              28 January 2019 at 9:54 am

              In contrast to the likes of Nosmag, the editors of Forbes are serious and respected analysts. No friends of democratic government in South America, they were nonetheless left with no option but to praise the integrity and honesty of the 2013 Venezuelan election….

              Forbes praised the technology, the encryption, the multiple checks and proofs against vote-rigging of the Venezuela system – supported by the fact that in an election the international community expected Hugo Chavez’s preferred successor Nicolas Maduro to win easily, he scraped through by a mere 1.83%.

              Eugenio Martinez, writing for Forbes, had set out looking to prove that Maduro’s narrow win was a result of rigging – yet by the end of his investigation he had to conclude that it was proof of a world-class, democratic system:

              The system Venezuela uses has some of the most advanced and voter-friendly security features in modern elections. Voters use a touch-sensitive electronic pad to make and confirm their choices. After confirmation, the electronic vote is encrypted and randomly stored in the machine’s memories. Voters audit their own vote by reviewing a printed receipt that they then place into a physical ballot box.

              At the end of Election Day, each voting machine computes and prints an official tally, called a precinct count. It transmits an electronic copy of the precinct count to the servers in the National Electoral Council’s central facility, where overall totals are computed.

              By mutual agreement between the contenders, 52.98% of the ballot boxes are chosen at random, opened, and their tallies compared with the corresponding precinct counts. This audit step ensures that no vote manipulation has occurred at the polling place. The extent of this audit, the widest in automatic elections, leaves little room for questioning.

              The series of tests before, during, and after a Venezuelan election is thorough and intense, conducted in the presence of election officials and political parties to ensure proper functionality and full confidence in the system. When it comes to elections, Venezuela has become a highly advanced nation of auditors, with the most advanced audit tools at its disposal and a voting process that is as transparent as any in the world.
              Eugenio Martinez for Forbes”

              http://i2.wp.com/skwawkbox.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/forbes-venez.png?w=470&ssl=1

              http://i2.wp.com/skwawkbox.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/forbes-venez.png?w=470&ssl=1

              • Gosman …
                28 January 2019 at 10:01 am

                Ummm…. check the year and check when Maduro was re-elected.

              • The Al1en …
                28 January 2019 at 10:02 am

                And the 2018 election? Where he was re-elected to a second term, but the elections were controversial, with many opposition candidates barred from running or jailed, an opposition boycott and allegations of vote-rigging, triggering large protests.

                Almost the electoral definition of illegitimate.

                • Morrissey …
                  28 January 2019 at 10:03 am

                  Key word: “allegations.” All unfounded. The Communists used to boycott elections in many countries; did their absence from the polling invalidate the results?

                  • The Al1en …
                    28 January 2019 at 10:06 am

                    el chubbo thanks you for your blind faith and continued support

                    • Morrissey …
                      28 January 2019 at 10:27 am

                      You really are clueless. I don’t blindly support Maduro; the Venezuelan government, like every other government is deeply flawed.

                      Do you think a bloody insurrection against the Trump regime is justified? It is only in power because of massive voter disenfranchisement in Florida, Indiana, Illinois, and many other states. Unlike the allegations by the extreme right in Venezuela, the evidence against the Republicans is documented and overwhelming.

                      So when will you join the uprising? Or are you all mouth?

                    • Gosman …
                      28 January 2019 at 10:35 am

                      Everybody seems to be clueless on Venezuela except Morrisey and his small band of like minded hard core one-eyed leftists. Fair enough.

                    • The Al1en …
                      28 January 2019 at 3:10 pm

                      I don’t agree with your politics, Gosman, but you make much more sense on some of these issues than Breen ever will, and at least you’re not dishonest in how you put points over.

                      I mean look how he has linked voter disenfranchisement in the u.s presidential election with the massive vote rigging and jailing members of opposition by maduro in Venezuela, and asks if there’s a need for a bloody coup in the states 🙄

                      Classic morrissey.

      • Morrissey 2.1.2
        28 January 2019 at 9:37 am

        Vide his witless and illiterate—“Madure”—answer on this very thread.

    • te reo putake 2.2
      28 January 2019 at 9:37 am

      Gosman doesn’t make that case, Moz. He is saying that both politicians use anger as a motivating tool, which is probably correct.

      I know that unions use the phrase ‘Anger, Hope, Action’ as a strategic definition. That doesn’t mean they’re equivalent to Maduro or Trump either.

      So, the takeaway here is that if there is any idiocy on this post so far, it’s not coming from Gosman.

    • james 2.3
      28 January 2019 at 11:32 am

      You need to work on your comprehension. He said both use anger to motivate their support base.

      Not saying Maduro = Trump.

    • DJ Ward 2.4
      28 January 2019 at 12:06 pm

      Gosman was pointing out the use of the supporters anger. Both Trump and Maduro do it. So they are equal in that respect. There is differences between Trump and Maduro that they are not equal on.

      Clearly Maduro is a stereotype leftist dictator, while Trump is brilliant.

  3. Robert Guyton 3
    28 January 2019 at 9:20 am

    ” Democracy will always marginalise radicals.”
    Dennis Frank
    https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-28-01-2019/#comment-1576706
    “Democracy will always marginalise the angry”
    Robert Guyton

    • Dennis Frank 3.1
      28 January 2019 at 10:13 am

      Hmm. I notice you didn’t cite Angry Andrew as an example. Possibly because shifting him from leader to Minister of Justice & #8 in cabinet ranking isn’t marginalising?

      Then there’s JLR. Well and truly marginalised. Yet somehow still has his handle on Aristotle’s lever, and a place to stand from which he can move the National world.

      • patricia bremner 3.1.1
        28 January 2019 at 11:15 am

        Perhaps Frank because that anger was a right construct. “Angry Andy”
        It was how the right wanted one of our thoughtful fair politicians viewed.

        • Dennis Frank 3.1.1.1
          28 January 2019 at 11:43 am

          Yes it was framing by the right. And he’s become moderate since. Still, his anger at social injustice is typical of the chip-on-the-shoulder syndrome (which I carried a long time too)…

      • Adrian Thornton 3.1.2
        28 January 2019 at 3:15 pm

        It was the worse mistake Little ever made in his political career IMO, I don’t know who or why he softened his image, got rid of his glasses etc…probably one of the worse pieces of political advise for a while, but then I guess he went along with it.

        NZ was ready for a leader to be outraged at what had happened to our country, he could have made National own all their terrible and destructive policies (or lack of), instead National have waked away absolutely scott free, and now attack Labour on housing, but Labour ineptly left that door wide open for them, so they probably deserve it.

        The right Labour leader ( and party) would have relentlessly attacked Nationals housing record, and made them scared to even talk on the subject for at least a couple of years..but no yet another fail for positive pragmatism, pah!

        • Dennis Frank 3.1.2.1
          28 January 2019 at 3:48 pm

          I agree re righteous anger. It can be used to power social crusades and political programs very effectively. But it often isn’t effective, so learning about the downside is important too. Polarising is counter-productive.

          I do agree also re pragmatism having a downside too. There’s a trade-off, often. What is a useful tactical compromise to some will seem like a sell-out to others. Human nature both ways, and we waste time being unrealistic if we get bogged down in trying to assert that one is right and the other isn’t. Better to forge common ground where possible.

  4. Dennis Frank 4
    28 January 2019 at 9:30 am

    Thanks for that general view of the relevance of anger to politics. It suggests deeper dimensions to be explored, such as the relation of anger to evil. There’s the issue of how it operates as a handicap to political effectiveness, by making political activities part of the problem rather than part of the solution.

    There’s also the relevance of class analysis to contemporary society: how some social groups are disadvantaged structurally, and why, historically, and how comprehension can defuse collective anger by opening up a better path to the future for the group.

    Individual activists powered by anger easily go off the rails. Maduro doesn’t seem evil. He was a bus-driver. A sense of grievance motivating him into solidarity in politics with Chavez & others was totally understandable & valid. Crossing the line into unethical behaviour was not. Anger drives so many politicos into excess, and actions warped by the group belief-system occur when it over-rides conscience.

  5. Adrian Thornton 5
    28 January 2019 at 9:32 am

    People and politicians that should be, in New Zealand are definitely not angry and outraged nearly enough, most boring kiwis show and display far more feelings and emotion to their favorite sport than they would ever to any political issue..

    look at the ’81 Springbok Tour one of NZ greatest moments…politicians should always at the back of their minds have an inbuilt fear of the population.

    The Left has traditionally one of the natural homes for political anger and dissent, but with the recent rise over the past few decades of the ‘centre left’ liberal political cancer that has rendered this space toothless…much of this anger has moved to the Right…witness the rise of the extreme Right in Europe, but the demise of it in the UK where Corbyn’s Left has been an effective voice for angry disenfranchised citizens.

  6. Jenny - How to get there? 6
    28 January 2019 at 9:32 am

    The power of anger vs. the weakness of appeasement.

    Todd Muller the National Party Climate Change Spokesperson  has accused the government of being “blinded by Green Ideology’. 

    Instead of meekly keeping their silence, I have suggested that the Green Party needed to forcefully answer Todd Muller’s attack on the government. 

    I was told, that to answer Muller’s attack piece, would put in jeopardy any chance of a by-partisan accord with the National Party.

    In his public attack piece Todd Muller strongly and repeatedly and forcefully argued that New Zealand should not lead the world on climate change.

    While his party is still engaged in negotiation with the government, in so called ‘Good Faith’, for a bi-partisan climate accord. (An act of bad faith in itself). Todd Muller National’s climate change spokesperson repeatedly stated, and restated, one of his party’s bottom line demands – New Zealand must not lead the world on climate change.

    “It is absolutely critical that we move – but let’s not move at a pace that leaves businesses and communities behind and puts our economy at a competitive disadvantage with the rest of the world…..” Todd Muller

    “…..allowing science to paint the picture, with technology leading the way, pacing ourselves at the pace of our competitors, and being relentlessly honest about the economic implications of the transition.” Todd Muller

    “When our total emissions account for 0.17 per cent of total global emissions, leadership isn’t being first, fast and famous.” Todd Muller

    “Future generations will thank us for working with, and at the pace of, global partners….” Todd Muller

    National’s position as outlined by Todd Muller is in direct opposition to the advice of the recent past top scientific adviser to the National Government, Professor Gluckman, who wrote on the government website. That because of this country’s relatively small emissions our greatest contribution to fighting climate change will be by setting an example.

    In my opinion the negotiations between the government and the opposition for a climate accord need to be called off until National changes their position that we lag behind the world on climate change action.

    Muller’s argument is a rehash of John Key’s “Fast Follower” doctrine.  Any accord on climate change with the National Party pointless while they hold this position.

    If you take Muller’s cowardly argument to its logical conclusion, every country would/should follow every other country, just in case they give their competitors an advantage. 
    Muller’s nationalist right-wing viewpoint was put most bluntly by Donald Trump, who said, “climate change was created by the Chinese to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive.”  

    This fear of losing competitive advantage, is why the globe cannot agree on taking unified action on climate change. Every country, is waiting on every other country to do something before they act, in case they give their competitors an advantage.

    From a time when New Zealand led the world.

    “The Hunger Strike Medal”

    Claire Regnault is showing me a tiny object from 1914….

    It’s a little suffragette medal, and it was awarded to Frances Parker who was a New Zealander living in London. And coloquelly it’s known as “The Hunger Strike Medal”….

    It is an emblem of incredible courage and suffering and valor. Francis Parker was imprisoned several times between 1908 and 1914 in increasingly dire conditions for her protests….

    She was born in New Zealand her parents were English but they lived in Curow in Otago, and when she was about 22 she was sent to  the UK to go to university

    Francis Parker graduated from Cambridge 1899, by the turn of the 20 Century New Zealand women had already had the vote for three electoral cycles. But they were still the only women in the world to have that right….

    In Britain, some of them were starting to take the lead…..

    There are wonderful articles in the papers of when the New Zealand contingent would lead the marches to Hyde Park for these sort of big rallies, as whole possessors of the vote….

    ……She gives the example of a window smashing campaign in London that resulted in Parker’s arrest.

    “[It was] co-ordinated for a Friday at 5.45 [pm] exactly, all these women who seemed to be peacefully going around town shopping suddenly – and the newspaper descriptions are wonderful – from their handbags and their muffs came stones and batons and sticks and they began violently smashing windows,” Regnault says….

    ……Parker and her fellow demonstrators were treated as criminally insane or as hysterics.

    “Which is something that’s really emblematic of women who fought for their rights all through history, they’re always diminished or demeaned and it’s implied they’re mad or insane or criminals.”

    McFall describes Parker as a “political prisoner”, saying there was a “sadistic quality” to the way Parker was treated in prison.

    “With the force feeding, first of all from the cup then through a nose tube and then rectally – I had no idea that happened, I actually found that quite difficult to read in her account of it, that was printed afterwards under a pseudonym.

    “And then of course she talks about being violated vaginally as well, it’s very hard not to see this as a political act.”

    Today, the fight for women’s rights around the world continues. 

    In January 2017, after Donald Trump’s inauguration as US President, McFall took to the streets of Wellington as part of the global Women’s March.

    She held a sign saying: ‘Kate Sheppard sent me’. 

    https://www.radionz.co.nz/programmes/ours/story/2018642777/leah-mcfall-and-the-suffragette-medal

    • Jenny - How to get there? 6.1
      28 January 2019 at 4:54 pm

      Speaking of righteous anger moral outrage and hunger strikes;

      Why are our elected political leaders once so vocal on this issue before their election not speaking out about this?

      Have they lost their moral compass?

      Man dies at detention centre where New Zealanders are on hunger protest
      Mathew Theunissen – Radio New Zealand, January 26, 2019

      A man has taken his own life at Sydney’s Villawood Detention Centre, where detainees have been on a hunger protest for what they say is their unjust incarceration….

      …..”It’s an absolute tragedy that there should be another death. There’s been so many offshore and so many onshore and this is just going to add to the list of victims of mandatory detention in Australia.”

      Detainee Ali Yousuf, who’s being held at Melbourne Immigration Transit Accommodation facility, said that just before the suicide, the young man had a meeting with immigration officials who said he would be deported.

      “It was an African bloke, a young bloke,” he said.

      “He was seen by immigration and refused a visa. He wanted just to return to his family but they didn’t let him, they wanted to deport him … next week. And he killed himself.”….

      ……New Zealanders make up a large portion of detainees refusing meals at detention centres in Perth, Brisbane, Melbourne and Sydney.

      Some are now entering their 12th day with little or no food.

      Australian authorities deny there is a mass hunger strike taking place.

      RNZ approached the office of [Australian] Immigration Minister David Coleman on Tuesday for comment, but is yet to receive a reply……

      Why are MPs not demanding some answers from Coleman?

      Have our MPs fully briefed of the situation by the Australian Government and are just keeping silent?

      Do they believe the Australian Government denials that the New Zealand detainees are on hunger strike?

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1pqi8vjTLY

  7. Ad 7
    28 January 2019 at 9:52 am

    The right simply does anger better than the left.
    Leave them to it.

    We’ve seen anger unleashed in the United States and across elsewhere and its extremism is pretty much irrevocable.

    The best the left can muster is teenagers at conferences going weepie.
    Much more effective for the left because the left manipulates feminine-dominant emotions far better.

    • DJ Ward 7.1
      28 January 2019 at 12:07 pm

      Antifa?

    • Jenny - How to get there? 7.2
      28 January 2019 at 1:39 pm

      “….the left manipulates feminine-dominant emotions far better.” Ad

      A disgustingly patronisingly sexist comment if I ever saw one.

      Wonder you haven’t copped a ban. And a bloody long one.

      “…… women who fought for their rights all through history, they’re always diminished or demeaned …..”

      The Hunger Strike Medal

  8. RedLogix 8
    28 January 2019 at 10:26 am

    Well written and thoughtful post Incognito. It rates a careful read, because I suspect most people here will skim through it and then append their own misapprehensions in the comments.

    The energy that becomes available, instead of being used to keep the lid on our shadow side firmly down & closed, can be used to accomplish much-needed action for change. We will also gain a better understanding and appreciation of another person’s drive and passion and we will be better able to build bridges, find common ground, and collaborate instead of staying polarised and being defensive and competitive at the same time.

    Love it!

    • Adrian Thornton 8.1
      28 January 2019 at 12:04 pm

      Hate it!

      Why is it that the (so called) Left have always got to find common ground with the Right, do any of you really think the Right ever sit around hand wringing about building bridges with the Left…of course not, never, and why would they? they know how weak the Centre Left have become, how shit scared of perceived middle class backlash the Left is, so even the tiniest bit of pressure from National or the press always results in Labour shifting Right, never the other way around.

      The truth is that Right believe in their ideology and ideas and absolutely believe they are right in what they do, that is the one and only thing I admire about them…

      When will we ever have a Labour with that sort of conviction in what it believes again? I guess we will know when the Right start coming to us looking for common ground and compromise, so in other words, not any time soon.

      Fuck pragmatism.

      Turn Labour Left!

      • RedLogix 8.1.1
        28 January 2019 at 12:24 pm

        Maybe we keep losing ground because the left has forgotten how to negotiate political compromises everyone can live with.

        Instead of accepting that we aren’t going to get our way all the time, the left throws resentful little tantrums and whines a lot. And then wonder why no-one takes us seriously.

        • McFlock 8.1.1.1
          28 January 2019 at 12:52 pm

          Yup.

          Evangelicals stick by dolt45 through almost all his BS, even though he’s going to hell by their estimation. The opposite end of the spectrum despise anyone slightly to their right or too far to their left.

        • Adrian Thornton 8.1.1.2
          28 January 2019 at 12:58 pm

          No one takes us seriously because no one knows what we actually stand for or believe in or would get into the trenches and get dirty and fight for..that is exactly why we lose ground..that one reason and nothing else.

          No lines lines in the sand for the pragmatists.

          All that the Centre Lefts bending over and taking one for the team has got us is stagnant wages for most workers o for 20+ years, criminally unaffordable housing across the whole country, the largest blowout of wealth inequality recorded, our water and rivers fucked etc etc…yep that ol’ centrist pragmatism is such a powerful tool, a political movement that will empower and motivate the disenfranchised LOL…whatever, maybe you should make the time and go down to a building site or a orchard and talk with some workers sometime, and see what they make of your pragmatic Labour…you might well get a little shock pal.

          BTW I love the way that you centrists always frame the idea of standing absolutely by some sort set of Left wing principles or manifesto as something like this… “the left throws resentful little tantrums and whines a lot.” which is of course you buying right into and parrorting their narrative…isn’t that stange.

        • Siobhan 8.1.1.3
          28 January 2019 at 4:04 pm

          Our Left wing politicians have been very good at ‘not whining’ and negotiating political compromises for the last 40 years. And with Ardern ‘we’ are going nuclear on compromise.

          So tell me…hows the average workers wages and employment rights going? Up or down do you think?

          And how’s the average persons ability to pay the rent going?

          And the working classes…hows it going for them sending kids to University?

          https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2014/02/14/real-wages-the-brutal-truth/

          “The report said the lowest 20 percent of earners spent 54 percent of their income on housing in 2015, compared with just 29 percent in the late 1980s.”

          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12122733

          https://www.nowtolove.co.nz/lifestyle/career/dame-jenny-shipley-and-helen-clark-talk-about-their-friendship-38775

          You might not be angry, and our politicians aren’t angry, because this stuff doesn’t effect them or their friends, but someone out there is probably getting pretty disillusioned, and its just a matter of time before Right wing nutters start tapping into that resentment in a way nz hasn’t seen in a long time.

          (though, given the Wellington Student ‘rent crisis’ with nice kids from nice homes struggling, maybe our leaders will be forced into ‘anger’- ha!)

          • RedLogix 8.1.1.3.1
            28 January 2019 at 5:17 pm

            @Siobhan.

            I’ve no idea if you live with a partner or not, but I ask you to consider the last time you ‘won’ an argument with them, defeated them completely and got your own way entirely. How did that work out long term?

            Now of course if a couple really disagree and cannot live with it, then they can always go their own separate ways. Always unpleasant, sometimes ugly.

            Consider a nation; both the conservative and liberal minded people will tend to disagree with each other and the whole point of politics is to find solutions both groups can live with. The idea the left can ‘win’ or defeat the right in the long run is a dangerous delusion.

            Because if a nation cannot agree on the middle path, there is no option to walk away.

            • veutoviper 8.1.1.3.1.1
              28 January 2019 at 5:28 pm

              Another regular here might want to participate in that one. LOL.

            • Siobhan 8.1.1.3.1.2
              29 January 2019 at 11:45 am

              That sounds like a great argument for co dependency.

              If I had a partner who was ‘philosophical’ about seeing me homeless and ending up in the street, earning less than a livable wage, unable to access an urgent operation , and swamped with debt from some half arsed qualification , I would not present them with a compromise…I would divorce them.

              We are not on a middle path…we are on the road to nowhere…

              • RedLogix …
                29 January 2019 at 12:30 pm

                I would divorce them.

                Fair enough, that’s what I proposed a couple might do in such circumstances. But a whole nation? I’m not sure exactly how you think we might ‘divorce’ the roughly 40% of the population who are conservative.

                I’m not being pedantic here; if we want the left to make enduring gains, we have to find a way to take most people with us.

      • Gosman 8.1.2
        28 January 2019 at 12:39 pm

        Do you actually understand any right wing ideology or are you caught up in your cartoonish view of what it is they want to do?

      • OnceWasTim 8.1.3
        28 January 2019 at 12:49 pm

        Calm down Adrian! Rome wasn’t built in a day !
        And there’s a mountain of savs to suck, a load of ‘isms’ to consider in the deepest of detail), a number of horses in the stables to determine which is the best pronunciation of “EEEE ORRR”, as well as a Davos or two to get through before we can begin to address the issues (going forward)

        Do you think you could possibly benefit from an anger management course? In the meantime I might be able to offer you some relief from your frustration to give us a little time to schedule you an appointment with a counselor.

        • Adrian Thornton 8.1.3.1
          28 January 2019 at 1:42 pm

          @OnceWasTim
          Calm down Adrian! Rome wasn’t built in a day ! it is so easy for you to just say those few words, but why don’t you go and say that to the orchard workers out there today, sweating in 35+ degree heat, working for pretty much the same rates as they where getting 20+ years ago, and now paying half that hard earned money in fucking rent,…that is where all your bullshit compromise and pragmatism gets them..not you, so no I won’t calm down, maybe it is you who should be getting angry..ever thought about that.

          And maybe you should get some counselling to see what avoidance mechanisms you have unknowingly put into place in your sub conscience, that lets you so serenely live with your fellow citizens suffering.

          BTW mate you haven’t seen me angry yet, not even close.

          • OnceWasTim 8.1.3.1.1
            28 January 2019 at 4:02 pm

            I was debating whether or not to put in a “/sarc” at the end of that comment but thought you’d have got that anyway.
            I’m very familiar with orchard workers btw. You mention the 35 degree heat and shit money. You forgot to mention the shit accommodation many are living in, not to mention some working days on end because they’re expected to work while the weather holds because if it rains there can be no income.

            And as for the “BTW mate you haven’t seen me angry yet, not even close.”, that’s the thing I can’t understand why the caring and sharing government hasn’t yet picked up on – or at least just how bad things have become. Boiling point has been reached – not just with orchard workers, but with junior doctors and teachers and courier drivers and truck drivers and, and, and others.
            Good will goes only so far

            • OnceWasTim 8.1.3.1.1.1
              28 January 2019 at 4:16 pm

              Oh, btw, I just heard of a case of someone in the Nelson area.
              A 55 year old living in a shitty boarding house with a bedroom not much bigger than a telephone box with all his worldly goods – that is those that have not yet been sold off in order to pay for some pretty basic things like buying a Christmas present for his daughter, and buying a much needed tyre for the shit heap that is used to get him from a – b.
              Severely depressed with past suicidal events and disabilities.
              WINZ’s outsourced ticket clipper “workbroker” sucking on a series of cream cakes, and who is never avaialable, and who doesn’t keep appointments (the one that states ” we link the right people to the right jobs”) seems to think that some of that orchard work would be just the ticket.

      • Morrissey 8.1.4
        28 January 2019 at 1:45 pm

        Here’s John Pagani finding “common ground” with a couple of right wing thugs….

        https://morrisseybreen.blogspot.com/2019/01/wimp-walloping-williams-and-ralston-vs.html

        In the following link, you won’t know whether to laugh or cry as Jeremy Elwood bends over backwards to Nevil “Breivik” Gibson, Tim Watkin bows down to Michael Bassett, Duncan Webb genuflects to Neil Miller, and Brian Edwards agrees to everything snarled out by Michelle Boag….

        https://morrisseybreen.blogspot.com/2018/01/wimp-walloping.html

    • veutoviper 8.2
      28 January 2019 at 10:04 pm

      Incognito, I am with RedLogix on your post. Thanks Red – again you have said it better than I could have.

      A well thought out post that has left me still thinking, particularly about the paragraph that RedLogix has quoted.

      Based on the second half of that para, I drafted a long comment reflecting on some aspects of the way people interact here on the Standard – but it is one of those that I cannot decide whether to post or not!

      So I am following that old adage – sleep on it overnight …

      Pity I cannot run it by you first because I would welcome your views. But it is something I have been thinking about for some time recently and your post has really helped me clarify my thoughts, and change my focus somewhat.

      Tomorrow I will look at it again with fresh eyes.

  9. patricia bremner 9
    28 January 2019 at 10:40 am

    This may be on a “personal” level but I had a flash of that dark anger this morning.

    Apparently the billionaires at Davos consider extra taxes won’t help inequality.

    I paused and a flood of repugnance and fury swept over me. “The feck they don’t!!”

    I continued reading. Their rationalisation was they trusted private entities more than the government to spend their money.

    They warned the precariat could become dangerous. They could cause the rise of populism or socialism, and many didn’t realise the free stuff they got with democracy and how globalism could be under threat.

    Wow, it is all there in one bloody sentence. The middle class could be dangerous.
    Globalism with light taxes must be maintained.

    What great scheme did they offer to overcome inequality? Upskilling.

    Some admitted poaching employees wasn’t working any more , and there was a need to invest or offer incentives to employees to upskill, especially in the digital area. So how long will this last? Till they have built their A I? What then?

    So the most wealthy who are gaining wealth at an ever increasing rate believe extra tax won’t help inequality, while the precariat and the poor face shrinking worth.

    Here in NZ, Please Labour, introduce capital gains tax, also a more graduated tax table similar to Australia where the top rate is 45% and have a special rate for income over *million. say *two/ *five / *ten??

    Key used to call this anger “envy”…. the feck it is, you bumptious prat. It is disgust.

    • Gosman 9.1
      28 January 2019 at 10:45 am

      A good example of where anger isn’t really very helpful. You just got yourself worked up to little effect.

    • james 9.2
      28 January 2019 at 11:34 am

      “Here in NZ, Please Labour, introduce capital gains tax”.

      Here in NZ, Please Labour campaign on introducing a capital gains tax.

      Go on, please, please, please.

      You will lose so much of your vote it wont be fuuny (for them anyway)

  10. WeTheBleeple 10
    28 January 2019 at 12:01 pm

    If you are not outraged you’re just not paying attention. Sure, one can be philosophical about things but if your bullshit detector isn’t getting more hits than some pop tarts sex tape every time you turn on the news or listen to Gosman… you’re part of the problem.

    Hell, I was fed up decades ago. We were on the Waipa Council, clear felling riversides of trees enabling stock access while the goal was ‘to keep the water clean’, and all manner of other dumb shit. Watched all the regional rail disappearing – bah, screw these guys, I’m going bush.

  11. McFlock 11
    28 January 2019 at 1:11 pm

    The phrase drilled into me back in the day was “controlled aggression”, rather than anger.

    Anger can take control, skew your perceptions, make you do dumb mistakes or focus on the wrong target as more immediate threats emerge. It also burns out.

    You need to be controlled, assessing the situation and planning new ways to achieve your objective in a changing environment. Aggression provides energy and focus, but you need to keep your brain in control, not your glands.

    • Dennis Frank 11.1
      28 January 2019 at 1:33 pm

      “In many humans the reptilian cortex (agenda: territory and reproduction [in humans that translates to power and sex] is out of control and the amygdala stokes the fear that leads to more bad behavior. The prefrontal cortex is the key to our future if we can harness its power.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triune_brain

      “Howard Bloom, in his book The Lucifer Principle, references the concept of the triune brain in his explanations of certain aspects of human behavior. Arthur Koestler made MacLean’s concept of the triune brain the centerpiece of much of his later work, notably The Ghost in the Machine.” Both are essential reading!

      “Glynda-Lee Hoffmann, in her book, “The Secret Dowry of Eve, Women’s Role in the Development of Consciousness,” references the triune theory explored by MacLean, and she goes one step further. Her theory about human behavior and the problems we create with that behavior, distinguishes the prefrontal cortex as uniquely different from the rest of the neocortex. The prefrontal cortex, with its agenda of integration, is the part of the brain that can get the other parts to work together for the good of the individual.” Haven’t read that, but intend to.

      “The triune model of the mammalian brain is seen as an oversimplified organizing theme by some in the field of comparative neuroscience. It continues to hold public interest because of its simplicity. While technically inaccurate in many respects as an explanation for brain activity, it remains one of very few approximations of the truth we have to work with: the “neocortex” represents that cluster of brain structures involved in advanced cognition, including planning, modeling and simulation; the “limbic brain” refers to those brain structures, wherever located, associated with social and nurturing behaviors, mutual reciprocity, and other behaviors and affects that arose during the age of the mammals; and the “reptilian brain” refers to those brain structures related to territoriality, ritual behavior and other “reptile” behaviors.”

      So, a model that maps reality reasonably well. Anger is part of the mammalian contribution, driven by hormones, as far as I can tell. The key question: how does the mind rule the brain?

      • McFlock 11.1.1
        28 January 2019 at 1:39 pm

        Realistic training, stress inoculation, and more training.

        • Dennis Frank 11.1.1.1
          28 January 2019 at 1:51 pm

          Do you just mean self-discipline? Experientially, I’d agree, but I actually meant in respect of mind/brain interface. Reductionists don’t believe in mind, so their explanation is mechanistic. Part of the brain organises the whole. Their problem? No proof. Perhaps not even any evidence…

          • McFlock 11.1.1.1.1
            28 January 2019 at 2:17 pm

            All a bit beyond me today.

            But no, it’s not just “self-discipline”.

            I’ve seen someone freak out and start to get the adrenaline shivers over a cut toe, mostly because their (also drunk) friend was panicking right next to them. Had someone with an even worse foot injury start to do little teary-eyed smiles on the way to ED, simply because everyone around was calm, collected, and reassuring.

            When I was in one accident, I was fine, but a couple of bystanders were concerned because I was shaking. I knew that was just the adrenaline rush taking my fine motor skills, because that’s how people react to stress. I was fine. But I could have screwed myself up if I’d panicked, it compounds itself.

            I actually find it a constant source of fascination as to why I might experience even a small frisson of this or that emotion. Why am I defensive about X? Am I jealous? Why was my impulse to react like Y? And if I’m doing those things, do i need to break the pattern?

            It’s not so much toughing it out with self-discipline, it’s just removing “my body makes me feels this” from the list of “new shit I need to learn how to handle really fast”. If I know that feeling X is a physiological reaction that I will get over, I can remove that from the situation I am assessing – but use that energy if I need it.

            • Dennis Frank 11.1.1.1.1.1
              28 January 2019 at 2:33 pm

              Yes, I know what you mean. I’ve experienced that sense of self as objective observer on & off since I was a teenager, and experienced the tugging effect of emotions-driven responses attempting to dislodge my clarity of overview of contentious situations. I had a big anger problem, deriving from childhood. My second wife persuaded me to do psychotherapy on it. That was during ’83. Took a little more than a year & never been a problem since.

        • greywarshark 11.1.1.2
          29 January 2019 at 12:39 pm

          Putting the triune brain into an individual context which people can use is perhaps like the transactional analysis I have mentioned.

          Three main aspects to our thinking – Child, Adult, Parent. A lot of Adult thinking and explanation here today. Probably some Parent – embedded rules and guidelines some of which might be out of date or time. The Child allows creative desires to come forward, tries out different styles, allows unfettered brainstorming sessions.

          I’m OK – You’re OK Thomas Antony Harris
          and Games People Play by Eric Berne
          and Games Alcoholics Play
          are all on TradeMe at present from $20.

    • Jenny - How to get there? 11.2
      28 January 2019 at 6:05 pm

      “Depression is anger turned inward”
      Sigmund Freud

      Get me a sledge hammer: Depression is anger turned inward
      Christine Stapleton – PsychCentral, May 15, 2014

      About 8 years ago, during my last major depression, I was told that depression was anger turned inward and that if I did not get rid of my anger, I would not get better.

      This baffled me because at the time I felt nothing but hopelessness. I had emotionally flatlined. I didn’t feel angry. I felt exhausted. However, the people who told me this – my psych nurse and therapist – knew what they were talking about. They had spent decades treating people with depression. If they said I would not get well until I got rid of my anger, then I would get rid of my [depression*] [sic].

      My therapist gave me a whiffle bat and wanted me to beat a pillow. Really? A whiffle bat? A pillow? I figured that if the amount of anger in me was enough to reduce me to a listless, despondent lump of flesh, a whiffle bat was not going to do the trick.

      I put on my steel-toed work boots, found a metal baseball bat in the shed and drove to a junkyard. I asked the guys if I could have a few minutes alone with one of their vehicles. They raised their eyebrows and took me to a green truck. They left me alone.

      I have no idea how long I was there but when I had finished, there were no windows in the truck. The side-view mirrors were gone and there were some serious dents on the hood and quarter-panels where my bat and boots had seen some action.

      Being the good little doobee I am, I asked the guys if they wanted me to clean up my mess. They raised their eyebrows and said, “Don’t worry about it.”……

      It took nearly a week for the sore muscles to heal but I felt better. My therapist helped me learn ways to release my anger without shredding every muscle in my body. Screaming underwater in my pool or with the car windows rolled up and Alanis Morrisette blaring worked. Taking a metal baseball bat to a few pillows worked, too. Although replacing pillows started to add up.

      Today, I am dealing with some anger/rage again. I need to get rid of it before I can return to my regularly scheduled program: my job. The screaming underwater or destroying pillows ain’t going to be enough. I need to hit something…..

      Christine Stapleton has been a journalist for 35 years. She is now an investigative … for The Palm Beach Post. In 2006, began writing a blog for PsychCentral called Depression on My Mind….

      Speaking for myself, I would rather channel my righteous anger into something productive.

      At the political level if the Left don’t respond to people’s anger over inequality, climate change, The Right will

  12. greywarshark 12
    28 January 2019 at 9:44 pm

    Something to get angry about in NZ.
    https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/381133/tourist-demands-mean-rural-practices-left-without-gp-for-hours

    In an emergency, doctors have to abandon the patients at their practices to go out to help.

    They are worried that will happen more often as tourist numbers increase – and they will not have any extra support.

    Nestled near Aoraki-Mt Cook in the Mackenzie District is the rural town of Twizel. It has a population of fewer than 1500 but it swells dramatically during the summer months as tourists descend.

    Rural General Practice Network chief executive Dalton Kelly said in an emergency the doctor might have to go out with an ambulance or by themselves.

    “What that means is that the people who normally would be going to see the doctor in their practice or the nurse, they won’t have access to that person.

    “They may sit there for five to six hours not able to see their GP. But the tourist will be well looked after in bad circumstances.”

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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    1 day ago

  • Bernard's pick 'n' mix of the news links
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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    1 day ago

  • Gordon Campbell on the public sector carnage, and misogyny as terrorism
    It’s a simple deal. We pay taxes in order to finance the social services we want and need. The carnage now occurring across the public sector though, is breaking that contract. Over 3,000 jobs have been lost so far. Many are in crucial areas like Education where the impact of ...
    Gordon CampbellBy lyndon
    1 day ago

  • Meeting the Master Baiters
    Hi,A friend had their 40th over the weekend and decided to theme it after Curb Your Enthusiasm fashion icon Susie Greene. Captured in my tiny kitchen before I left the house, I ending up evoking a mix of old lesbian and Hillary Clinton — both unintentional.Me vs Hillary ClintonIf you’re ...
    David FarrierBy David Farrier
    1 day ago

  • How extreme was the Earth's temperature in 2023
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    Skeptical Science
    1 day ago

  • Backbone, revisited
    The schools are on holiday and the sun is shining in the seaside village and all day long I have been seeing bunches of bikes; Mums, Dads, teens and toddlers chattering, laughing, happy, having a bloody great time together. Cheers, AT, for the bits of lane you’ve added lately around the ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    2 days ago

  • Ministers are not above the law
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago

  • What’s the outfit you can hear going down the gurgler? Probably it’s David Parker’s Oceans Sec...
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    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    2 days ago

  • Will politicians let democracy die in the darkness?
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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago

  • Matt Doocey doubles down on trans “healthcare”
    Citizen Science writes –  Last week saw two significant developments in the debate over the treatment of trans-identifying children and young people – the release in Britain of the final report of Dr Hilary Cass’s review into gender healthcare, and here in New Zealand, the news that the ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago

  • A TikTok Prime Minister.
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    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    2 days ago

  • Texas Lessons
    This is a guest post by Oscar Simms who is a housing activist, volunteer for the Coalition for More Homes, and was the Labour Party candidate for Auckland Central at the last election. ...
    Greater AucklandBy Guest Post
    2 days ago

  • Bernard's pick 'n' mix of the news links at 6:06 am
    The top six news links I’ve seen elsewhere in the last 24 hours as of 6:06 am on Wednesday, April 17 are:Must read: Secrecy shrouds which projects might be fast-tracked RNZ Farah HancockScoop: Revealed: Luxon has seven staffers working on social media content - partly paid for by taxpayer Newshub ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    2 days ago

  • Fighting poverty on the holiday highway
    Turning what Labour called the “holiday highway” into a four-lane expressway from Auckland to Whangarei could bring at least an economic benefit of nearly two billion a year for Northland each year. And it could help bring an end to poverty in one of New Zealand’s most deprived regions. The ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    2 days ago

  • Bernard's six-stack of substacks at 6:26 pm
    Tonight’s six-stack includes: launching his substack with a bunch of his previous documentaries, including this 1992 interview with Dame Whina Cooper. and here crew give climate activists plenty to do, including this call to submit against the Fast Track Approvals bill. writes brilliantly here on his substack ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago

  • At a glance – Is the science settled?
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    Skeptical Science
    3 days ago

  • Apposite Quotations.
    How Long Is Long Enough? Gaza under Israeli bombardment, July 2014. This posting is exclusive to Bowalley Road. ...
    Bowalley Road
    3 days ago

  • What’s a life worth now?
    You're in the mall when you hear it: some kind of popping sound in the distance, kids with fireworks, maybe. But then a moment of eerie stillness is followed by more of the fireworks sound and there’s also screaming and shrieking and now here come people running for their lives.Does ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    3 days ago

  • Howling at the Moon
    Karl du Fresne writes –  There’s a crisis in the news media and the media are blaming it on everyone except themselves. Culpability is being deflected elsewhere – mainly to the hapless Minister of Communications, Melissa Lee, and the big social media platforms that are accused of hoovering ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • Newshub is Dead.
    I don’t normally send out two newsletters in a day but I figured I’d say something about… the news. If two newsletters is a bit much then maybe just skip one, I don’t want to overload people. Alternatively if you’d be interested in sometimes receiving multiple, smaller updates from me, ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    3 days ago

  • Seymour is chuffed about cutting early-learning red tape – but we hear, too, that Jones has loose...
    Buzz from the Beehive David Seymour and Winston Peters today signalled that at least two ministers of the Crown might be in Wellington today. Seymour (as Associate Minister of Education) announced the removal of more red tape, this time to make it easier for new early learning services to be ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    3 days ago

  • Bryce Edwards: Will politicians let democracy die in the darkness?
    Politicians across the political spectrum are implicated in the New Zealand media’s failing health. Either through neglect or incompetent interventions, successive governments have failed to regulate, foster, and allow a healthy Fourth Estate that can adequately hold politicians and the powerful to account. Our political system is suffering from the ...
    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    3 days ago

  • Was Hawkesby entirely wrong?
    David Farrar  writes –  The Broadcasting Standards Authority ruled: Comments by radio host Kate Hawkesby suggesting Māori and Pacific patients were being prioritised for surgery due to their ethnicity were misleading and discriminatory, the Broadcasting Standards Authority has found. It is a fact such patients are prioritised. ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • PRC shadow looms as the Solomons head for election
    PRC and its proxies in Solomons have been preparing for these elections for a long time. A lot of money, effort and intelligence have gone into ensuring an outcome that won’t compromise Beijing’s plans. Cleo Paskall writes – On April 17th the Solomon Islands, a country of ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • Climate Change: Criminal ecocide
    We are in the middle of a climate crisis. Last year was (again) the hottest year on record. NOAA has just announced another global coral bleaching event. Floods are threatening UK food security. So naturally, Shane Jones wants to make it easier to mine coal: Resources Minister Shane Jones ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago

  • Is saving one minute of a politician's time worth nearly $1 billion?
    Is speeding up the trip to and from Wellington airport by 12 minutes worth spending up more than $10 billion? Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: The six news items that stood out to me in the last day to 8:26 am today are:The Lead: Transport Minister Simeon Brown announced ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago

  • Long Tunnel or Long Con?
    Yesterday it was revealed that Transport Minister had asked Waka Kotahi to look at the options for a long tunnel through Wellington. State Highway 1 (SH1) through Wellington City is heavily congested at peak times and while planning continues on the duplicate Mt Victoria Tunnel and Basin Reserve project, the ...
    Greater AucklandBy Matt L
    3 days ago

  • Smoke And Mirrors.
    You're a fraud, and you know itBut it's too good to throw it all awayAnyone would do the sameYou've got 'em goingAnd you're careful not to show itSometimes you even fool yourself a bitIt's like magicBut it's always been a smoke and mirrors gameAnyone would do the sameForty six billion ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    3 days ago

  • What is Mexico doing about climate change?
    This is a re-post from Yale Climate Connections The June general election in Mexico could mark a turning point in ensuring that the country’s climate policies better reflect the desire of its citizens to address the climate crisis, with both leading presidential candidates expressing support for renewable energy. Mexico is the ...
    Skeptical Science
    3 days ago

  • State of humanity, 2024
    2024, it feels, keeps presenting us with ever more challenges, ever more dismay.Do you give up yet? It seems to ask.No? How about this? Or this?How about this?When I say 2024 I really mean the state of humanity in 2024.Saturday night, we watched Civil War because that is one terrifying cliff we've ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    4 days ago

  • Govt’s Wellington tunnel vision aims to ease the way to the airport (but zealous promoters of cycl...
    Buzz from the Beehive A pet project and governmental tunnel vision jump out from the latest batch of ministerial announcements. The government is keen to assure us of its concern for the wellbeing of our pets. It will be introducing pet bonds in a change to the Residential Tenancies Act ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    4 days ago

  • The case for cultural connectedness
    A recent report generated from a Growing Up in New Zealand (GUiNZ) survey of 1,224 rangatahi Māori aged 11-12 found: Cultural connectedness was associated with fewer depression symptoms, anxiety symptoms and better quality of life. That sounds cut and dry. But further into the report the following appears: Cultural connectedness is ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago

  • Useful context on public sector job cuts
    David Farrar writes –    The Herald reports: From the gory details of job-cuts news, you’d think the public service was being eviscerated.   While the media’s view of the cuts is incomplete, it’s also true that departments have been leaking the particulars faster than a Wellington ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago

  • Gordon Campbell On When Racism Comes Disguised As Anti-racism
    Remember the good old days, back when New Zealand had a PM who could think and speak calmly and intelligently in whole sentences without blustering? Even while Iran’s drones and missiles were still being launched, Helen Clark was live on TVNZ expertly summing up the latest crisis in the Middle ...
    Gordon CampbellBy lyndon
    4 days ago

  • Govt ignored economic analysis of smokefree reversal
    Costello did not pass on analysis of the benefits of the smokefree reforms to Cabinet, emphasising instead the extra tax revenues of repealing them. Photo: Hagen Hopkins, Getty Images TL;DR: The six news items that stood out to me at 7:26 am today are:The Lead: Casey Costello never passed on ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    4 days ago

  • True Blue.
    True loveYou're the one I'm dreaming ofYour heart fits me like a gloveAnd I'm gonna be true blueBaby, I love youI’ve written about the job cuts in our news media last week. The impact on individuals, and the loss to Aotearoa of voices covering our news from different angles.That by ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    4 days ago

  • Who is running New Zealand’s foreign policy?
    While commentators, including former Prime Minister Helen Clark, are noting a subtle shift in New Zealand’s foreign policy, which now places more emphasis on the United States, many have missed a key element of the shift. What National said before the election is not what the government is doing now. ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    4 days ago

  • 2024 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming News Roundup #15
    A listing of 31 news and opinion articles we found interesting and shared on social media during the past week: Sun, April 7, 2024 thru Sat, April 13, 2024. Story of the week Our story of the week is about adults in the room setting terms and conditions of ...
    Skeptical Science
    5 days ago

  • Feline Friends and Fragile Fauna The Complexities of Cats in New Zealand’s Conservation Efforts

    Cats, with their independent spirit and beguiling purrs, have captured the hearts of humans for millennia. In New Zealand, felines are no exception, boasting the highest national cat ownership rate globally [definition cat nz cat foundation]. An estimated 1.134 million pet cats grace Kiwi households, compared to 683,000 dogs ...

    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    5 days ago

  • Or is that just they want us to think?
    Nice guy, that Peter Williams. Amiable, a calm air of no-nonsense capability, a winning smile. Everything you look for in a TV presenter and newsreader.I used to see him sometimes when I went to TVNZ to be a talking head or a panellist and we would yarn. Nice guy, that ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    5 days ago

  • Fact Brief – Did global warming stop in 1998?
    Skeptical Science is partnering with Gigafact to produce fact briefs — bite-sized fact checks of trending claims. This fact brief was written by Sue Bin Park in collaboration with members from our Skeptical Science team. You can submit claims you think need checking via the tipline. Did global warming stop in ...
    Skeptical Science
    6 days ago

  • Arguing over a moot point.
    I have been following recent debates in the corporate and social media about whether it is a good idea for NZ to join what is known as “AUKUS Pillar Two.” AUKUS is the Australian-UK-US nuclear submarine building agreement in which … Continue reading → ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    6 days ago

  • No Longer Trusted: Ageing Boomers, Laurie & Les, Talk Politics.
    Turning Point: “What has turned me away from the mainstream news media is the very strong message that its been sending out for the last few years.” “And what message might that be?” “That the people who own it, the people who run it, and the people who provide its content, really don’t ...
    Bowalley Road
    6 days ago

  • Mortgage rates at 10% anyone?
    No – nothing about that in PM Luxon’s nine-point plan to improve the lives of New Zealanders. But beyond our shores Jamie Dimon, the long-serving head of global bank J.P. Morgan Chase, reckons that the chances of a goldilocks soft landing for the economy are “a lot lower” than the ...
    Point of OrderBy xtrdnry
    6 days ago

  • Sad tales from the left
    Michael Bassett writes –  Have you noticed the odd way in which the media are handling the government’s crackdown on surplus employees in the Public Service? Very few reporters mention the crazy way in which State Service numbers rocketed ahead by more than 16,000 during Labour’s six years, ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    6 days ago

  • Minister to Europe for OECD meeting, Anzac Day
    Science, Innovation and Technology and Defence Minister Judith Collins will next week attend the OECD Science and Technology Ministerial conference in Paris and Anzac Day commemorations in Belgium. “Science, innovation and technology have a major role to play in rebuilding our economy and achieving better health, environmental and social outcomes ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 hours ago

  • Comprehensive Partnership the goal for NZ and the Philippines
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon held a bilateral meeting today with the President of the Philippines, Ferdinand Marcos Jr.  The Prime Minister was accompanied by MP Paulo Garcia, the first Filipino to be elected to a legislature outside the Philippines. During today’s meeting, Prime Minister Luxon and President Marcos Jr discussed opportunities to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    13 hours ago

  • Government commits $20m to Westport flood protection
    The Government has announced that $20 million in funding will be made available to Westport to fund much needed flood protection around the town. This measure will significantly improve the resilience of the community, says Local Government Minister Simeon Brown. “The Westport community has already been allocated almost $3 million ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    19 hours ago

  • Taupō takes pole position
    The Government is proud to support the first ever Repco Supercars Championship event in Taupō as up to 70,000 motorsport fans attend the Taupō International Motorsport Park this weekend, says Economic Development Minister Melissa Lee. “Anticipation for the ITM Taupō Super400 is huge, with tickets and accommodation selling out weeks ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    20 hours ago

  • Cost of living support for low-income homeowners
    Local Government Minister Simeon Brown has announced an increase to the Rates Rebate Scheme, putting money back into the pockets of low-income homeowners.  “The coalition Government is committed to bringing down the cost of living for New Zealanders. That includes targeted support for those Kiwis who are doing things tough, such ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    22 hours ago

  • Government backing mussel spat project
    The Coalition Government is investing in a project to boost survival rates of New Zealand mussels and grow the industry, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones has announced. “This project seeks to increase the resilience of our mussels and significantly boost the sector’s productivity,” Mr Jones says. “The project - ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    22 hours ago

  • Government focused on getting people into work
    Benefit figures released today underscore the importance of the Government’s plan to rebuild the economy and have 50,000 fewer people on Jobseeker Support, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says. “Benefit numbers are still significantly higher than when National was last in government, when there was about 70,000 fewer ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Clean energy key driver to reducing emissions
    The Government’s commitment to doubling New Zealand’s renewable energy capacity is backed by new data showing that clean energy has helped the country reach its lowest annual gross emissions since 1999, Climate Change Minister Simon Watts says. New Zealand’s latest Greenhouse Gas Inventory (1990-2022) published today, shows gross emissions fell ...
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    1 day ago

  • Earthquake-prone buildings review brought forward
    The Government is bringing the earthquake-prone building review forward, with work to start immediately, and extending the deadline for remediations by four years, Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk says. “Our Government is focused on rebuilding the economy. A key part of our plan is to cut red tape that ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Thailand and NZ to agree to Strategic Partnership
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and his Thai counterpart, Prime Minister Srettha Thavisin, have today agreed that New Zealand and the Kingdom of Thailand will upgrade the bilateral relationship to a Strategic Partnership by 2026. “New Zealand and Thailand have a lot to offer each other. We have a strong mutual desire to build ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Government consults on extending coastal permits for ports
    RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop and Transport Minister Simeon Brown have today announced the Coalition Government’s intention to extend port coastal permits for a further 20 years, providing port operators with certainty to continue their operations. “The introduction of the Resource Management Act in 1991 required ports to obtain coastal ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Inflation coming down, but more work to do
    Today’s announcement that inflation is down to 4 per cent is encouraging news for Kiwis, but there is more work to be done - underlining the importance of the Government’s plan to get the economy back on track, acting Finance Minister Chris Bishop says. “Inflation is now at 4 per ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • School attendance restored as a priority in health advice
    Refreshed health guidance released today will help parents and schools make informed decisions about whether their child needs to be in school, addressing one of the key issues affecting school attendance, says Associate Education Minister David Seymour. In recent years, consistently across all school terms, short-term illness or medical reasons ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Unnecessary bureaucracy cut in oceans sector
    Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones is streamlining high-level oceans management while maintaining a focus on supporting the sector’s role in the export-led recovery of the economy. “I am working to realise the untapped potential of our fishing and aquaculture sector. To achieve that we need to be smarter with ...
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    2 days ago

  • Patterson promoting NZ’s wool sector at International Congress
    Associate Agriculture Minister Mark Patterson is speaking at the International Wool Textile Organisation Congress in Adelaide, promoting New Zealand wool, and outlining the coalition Government’s support for the revitalisation the sector.    "New Zealand’s wool exports reached $400 million in the year to 30 June 2023, and the coalition Government ...
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    3 days ago

  • Removing red tape to help early learners thrive
    The Government is making legislative changes to make it easier for new early learning services to be established, and for existing services to operate, Associate Education Minister David Seymour says. The changes involve repealing the network approval provisions that apply when someone wants to establish a new early learning service, ...
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    3 days ago

  • RMA changes to cut coal mining consent red tape
    Changes to the Resource Management Act will align consenting for coal mining to other forms of mining to reduce barriers that are holding back economic development, Resources Minister Shane Jones says. “The inconsistent treatment of coal mining compared with other extractive activities is burdensome red tape that fails to acknowledge ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago

  • McClay reaffirms strong NZ-China trade relationship
    Trade, Agriculture and Forestry Minister Todd McClay has concluded productive discussions with ministerial counterparts in Beijing today, in support of the New Zealand-China trade and economic relationship. “My meeting with Commerce Minister Wang Wentao reaffirmed the complementary nature of the bilateral trade relationship, with our Free Trade Agreement at its ...
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    3 days ago

  • Prime Minister Luxon acknowledges legacy of Singapore Prime Minister Lee
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon today paid tribute to Singapore’s outgoing Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong.   Meeting in Singapore today immediately before Prime Minister Lee announced he was stepping down, Prime Minister Luxon warmly acknowledged his counterpart’s almost twenty years as leader, and the enduring legacy he has left for Singapore and South East ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago

  • PMs Luxon and Lee deepen Singapore-NZ ties
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon held a bilateral meeting today with Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong. While in Singapore as part of his visit to South East Asia this week, Prime Minister Luxon also met with Singapore President Tharman Shanmugaratnam and will meet with Deputy Prime Minister Lawrence Wong.  During today’s meeting, Prime Minister Luxon ...
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    4 days ago

  • Antarctica New Zealand Board appointments
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters has made further appointments to the Board of Antarctica New Zealand as part of a continued effort to ensure the Scott Base Redevelopment project is delivered in a cost-effective and efficient manner.  The Minister has appointed Neville Harris as a new member of the Board. Mr ...
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    4 days ago

  • Finance Minister travels to Washington DC
    Finance Minister Nicola Willis will travel to the United States on Tuesday to attend a meeting of the Five Finance Ministers group, with counterparts from Australia, the United States, Canada, and the United Kingdom.  “I am looking forward to meeting with our Five Finance partners on how we can work ...
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    4 days ago

  • Pet bonds a win/win for renters and landlords
    The coalition Government has today announced purrfect and pawsitive changes to the Residential Tenancies Act to give tenants with pets greater choice when looking for a rental property, says Housing Minister Chris Bishop. “Pets are important members of many Kiwi families. It’s estimated that around 64 per cent of New ...
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    4 days ago

  • Long Tunnel for SH1 Wellington being considered
    State Highway 1 (SH1) through Wellington City is heavily congested at peak times and while planning continues on the duplicate Mt Victoria Tunnel and Basin Reserve project, the Government has also asked NZ Transport Agency (NZTA) to consider and provide advice on a Long Tunnel option, Transport Minister Simeon Brown ...
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    4 days ago

  • New Zealand condemns Iranian strikes
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and Foreign Minister Winston Peters have condemned Iran’s shocking and illegal strikes against Israel.    “These attacks are a major challenge to peace and stability in a region already under enormous pressure," Mr Luxon says.    "We are deeply concerned that miscalculation on any side could ...
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    5 days ago

  • Huge interest in Government’s infrastructure plans
    Hundreds of people in little over a week have turned out in Northland to hear Regional Development Minister Shane Jones speak about plans for boosting the regional economy through infrastructure. About 200 people from the infrastructure and associated sectors attended an event headlined by Mr Jones in Whangarei today. Last ...
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    7 days ago

  • Health Minister thanks outgoing Health New Zealand Chair
    Health Minister Dr Shane Reti has today thanked outgoing Health New Zealand – Te Whatu Ora Chair Dame Karen Poutasi for her service on the Board.   “Dame Karen tendered her resignation as Chair and as a member of the Board today,” says Dr Reti.  “I have asked her to ...
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    7 days ago

  • Roads of National Significance planning underway
    The NZ Transport Agency (NZTA) has signalled their proposed delivery approach for the Government’s 15 Roads of National Significance (RoNS), with the release of the State Highway Investment Proposal (SHIP) today, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says.  “Boosting economic growth and productivity is a key part of the Government’s plan to ...
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    7 days ago

  • Navigating an unstable global environment
    New Zealand is renewing its connections with a world facing urgent challenges by pursuing an active, energetic foreign policy, Foreign Minister Winston Peters says.   “Our country faces the most unstable global environment in decades,” Mr Peters says at the conclusion of two weeks of engagements in Egypt, Europe and the United States.    “We cannot afford to sit back in splendid ...
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    7 days ago

  • NZ welcomes Australian Governor-General
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon has announced the Australian Governor-General, His Excellency General The Honourable David Hurley and his wife Her Excellency Mrs Linda Hurley, will make a State visit to New Zealand from Tuesday 16 April to Thursday 18 April. The visit reciprocates the State visit of former Governor-General Dame Patsy Reddy ...
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    1 week ago

  • Pseudoephedrine back on shelves for Winter
    Associate Health Minister David Seymour has announced that Medsafe has approved 11 cold and flu medicines containing pseudoephedrine. Pharmaceutical suppliers have indicated they may be able to supply the first products in June. “This is much earlier than the original expectation of medicines being available by 2025. The Government recognised ...
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    1 week ago

  • NZ and the US: an ever closer partnership
    New Zealand and the United States have recommitted to their strategic partnership in Washington DC today, pledging to work ever more closely together in support of shared values and interests, Foreign Minister Winston Peters says.    “The strategic environment that New Zealand and the United States face is considerably more ...
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    1 week ago

  • Joint US and NZ declaration
    April 11, 2024 Joint Declaration by United States Secretary of State the Honorable Antony J. Blinken and New Zealand Minister of Foreign Affairs the Right Honourable Winston Peters We met today in Washington, D.C. to recommit to the historic partnership between our two countries and the principles that underpin it—rule ...
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    1 week ago

  • NZ and US to undertake further practical Pacific cooperation
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters has announced further New Zealand cooperation with the United States in the Pacific Islands region through $16.4 million in funding for initiatives in digital connectivity and oceans and fisheries research.   “New Zealand can achieve more in the Pacific if we work together more urgently and ...
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    1 week ago

  • Government redress for Te Korowai o Wainuiārua
    The Government is continuing the bipartisan effort to restore its relationship with iwi as the Te Korowai o Wainuiārua Claims Settlement Bill passed its first reading in Parliament today, says Treaty Negotiations Minister Paul Goldsmith. “Historical grievances of Te Korowai o Wainuiārua relate to 19th century warfare, land purchased or taken ...
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    1 week ago

  • Focus on outstanding minerals permit applications
    New Zealand Petroleum and Minerals is working to resolve almost 150 outstanding minerals permit applications by the end of the financial year, enabling valuable mining activity and signalling to the sector that New Zealand is open for business, Resources Minister Shane Jones says.  “While there are no set timeframes for ...
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  • Applications open for NZ-Ireland Research Call
    The New Zealand and Irish governments have today announced that applications for the 2024 New Zealand-Ireland Joint Research Call on Agriculture and Climate Change are now open. This is the third research call in the three-year Joint Research Initiative pilot launched in 2022 by the Ministry for Primary Industries and Ireland’s ...
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  • Tenancy rules changes to improve rental market
    The coalition Government has today announced changes to the Residential Tenancies Act to encourage landlords back to the rental property market, says Housing Minister Chris Bishop. “The previous Government waged a war on landlords. Many landlords told us this caused them to exit the rental market altogether. It caused worse ...
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  • Boosting NZ’s trade and agricultural relationship with China
    Trade and Agriculture Minister Todd McClay will visit China next week, to strengthen relationships, support Kiwi exporters and promote New Zealand businesses on the world stage. “China is one of New Zealand’s most significant trade and economic relationships and remains an important destination for New Zealand’s products, accounting for nearly 22 per cent of our good and ...
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  • Freshwater farm plan systems to be improved
    The coalition Government intends to improve freshwater farm plans so that they are more cost-effective and practical for farmers, Associate Environment Minister Andrew Hoggard and Agriculture Minister Todd McClay have announced. “A fit-for-purpose freshwater farm plan system will enable farmers and growers to find the right solutions for their farm ...
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