The view from the media room

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1. karol 1

   8 July 2014 at 12:06 pm

   Thanks, Lynn. A very useful report, showing views from both an insider and outsider perspective, unlike that of the main political journalists re the Labour Party reporting.

   Interesting the quote from Colin James about the bigger and more enthusiastic turn-out and response to Cunliffe than for Key at the Nats’ conference.
   • lprent 1.1

     8 July 2014 at 12:50 pm

     I thought so as well about that little tag at the end of article. I’m going to be interested in what he reports later in the week.

     The Labour party people are probably as happy and focused now as they were back in 1999. Really intent on being disciplined and getting a good result.

     The Greens I know are far far more focused than I have ever seen them.

     I suspect National is going to really have a problem this election. They’re going to have good clear and cohesive ideas coming at them from several directions. It is notable that they don’t appear to have any good ideas of their own at present.
     • ianmac 1.1.1

       8 July 2014 at 1:49 pm

       The bits I saw online seemed to show a more robust spontaneous audience than National’s and brief views of the National audience there were only grey (blue rinse) heads visible whereas at the Labour do, there seemed to be a wide cross-section of hair colours. What does it all mean? Rebirth? Regrowth? Positiveness? Hope so.
       • mickysavage 1.1.1.1

         8 July 2014 at 2:08 pm

         Yep a few years ago I used to be one of the youngest there. Now I am feeling my age …

         There was a good blend of ages, ethnicities, socio economic statuses and genders present. A bit like New Zealand really …
         • LynWiper 1.1.1.1.1

           8 July 2014 at 3:07 pm

           My thoughts exactly on the audience makeup mickeysavage. A truly diverse and real representation of New Zealanders. I was so glad I attended on Sunday and was very impressed with how cohesively the whole day ran. Heartened by how genuine all the speakers were, I also thoroughly enjoyed hearing from four of the new candidates who shared their individual stories and reasons for standing with refreshing passion and heart. Labour looks to be in very capable hands. David Cunliffe spoke naturally and delivered his speech superbly, concluding the day perfectly. Very encouraging indeed.
     • Macro 1.1.2

       8 July 2014 at 4:21 pm

       ” It is notable that they don’t appear to have any good ideas of their own at present.”
       Have they ever?
2. Ad 2

   8 July 2014 at 3:15 pm

   The helpful point about this post is that it invites the Labour campaign to consider messaging to the public through the eyes of the media staff themselves. Rather than railing righteous when they seem to do our beloved politicians wrong.

   They need handlers. They need charming, wining, dining, and loving. Yes loving.

   They need fresh stories with a variety of angles, not just the ones that are good for the story-wholesaler. They will only embed into your team when they trust you.

   They are of course a hateful and biased bunch – understood – but it is the media not the politicians these days who hold the keys to the hearts and minds of the voting public. Politicians and journalists are equally loathed, so there’s no skin off anyone’s nose here.

   So turn the heater on next time. Get them their favourite slippers.
   Treat them like the First Class passengers on an A380.

   The media staff, not the public, are the client.
   • Anne 2.1

     8 July 2014 at 3:56 pm

     Excellent points Ad.

     Labour has never done comfort and TLC very well. From my own experiences over the years the venues are either stiflingly hot but none of the organisers think to open any windows, or they’re freezing cold and none of them think to close the windows. It usually requires the somewhat embarrassing exercise of climbing over the audiences’ bodies to get to someone and ask them to do something about it.

     My other little bug bear…. when the leader of the Labour Party is being interviewed for the main networks
     (eg. Q&A or The Nation) can’t somebody control the off-stage noise emanating from excitable delegates who appear not to comprehend that there isn’t much use conducting these interviews if the TV audience can’t hear what is being said.

     Ahhh that’s better. Waited years to get the above off my chest.
   • mickysavage 2.2

     8 July 2014 at 7:06 pm

     Agreed Al that a charm offensive is now in order. I think that the Standard’s previous criticism of some of the worst media excesses was warranted though and would like to think that we collectively managed to get the media to reflect on issues. A recent example is the Donghua Liu stuff and the Herald did show some signs of being embarrassed.

     I don’t mind the media criticising Labour occasionally as long as it is shared around …
3. ianmac 3

   8 July 2014 at 4:58 pm

   Getting sick of Bryce Edwards. His roundup goes mostly for the negative anti-Labour commentary. Balanced? Fair? Biased? Shouldn’t bother to read his gloop.
   • karol 3.1

     8 July 2014 at 8:33 pm

     Yes. Edwards professes to know what the electorate think in this latest one – ie they are not in touch with notions of “identity politics” (by which he means gender/feminist politics, or “rape culture”. Yet reports say a high proportion of women have experienced domestic violence and/or sexual assault or violence. I guess those women aren’t on Edwards’ radar.
     • Colonial Viper 3.1.1

       8 July 2014 at 11:59 pm

       Yet another player in the media commentariat who seems to be aiming for a paid gig via the Right Wing.
4. Charlieboy 4

   8 July 2014 at 9:38 pm

   Edwards quotes Claire Robinson at length about how DC came to give the speech to the Women’s Refuge forum. Utter fiction! She just makes up a story about what she thinks is going on in his head as he walks into the room, and Edwards repeats it as fact. What corn flakes packet did these dudes get their degrees out of? Their commentary is certainly flakey.
   • Stephanie Rodgers 4.1

     8 July 2014 at 11:19 pm

     I found Robinson’s “analysis” a bit bizarre. It all rests on the idea that David Cunliffe had no idea who he was meeting with, he just walked out to a podium and went “oh my god, I’ve ended up at a Women’s Refuge meeting! Help!”
5. North 5

   9 July 2014 at 3:49 am

   Robinson is bizarre. In November 2011 I suggested by email that she should “Go run a corner dairy” on the strength of her facile contribution as a panelist following the TV Leaders’ Debate, her response – “Go fuck yourself.” Wow ! I clutched my pearls. From one so erudite ?
6. North 6

   9 July 2014 at 4:37 am

   Missed the edit – meant to add that frequently am left feeling that political ‘scientists’ wheeled so portentously onto various panels actually possess no more insight or nous than your average follower of matters political. The paucity of anything ‘special’ to say is reflected in burble anyone could summon up. Or in spin which betrays personal political persuasion. Q+A panelists, Robinson being one from time to time, strike me as very much like that. “Go fuck yourself” says it all really.

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