Nats “help” with more cuts

Written By: - Date published: 2:11 pm, October 18th, 2011 - 23 comments
Categories: class war, john key, national, welfare - Tags:

Amidst growing evidence of yet another broken 2008 election promise, John Key has nothing to offer except tired excuses:

Key admits underclass still growing

Prime Minister John Key has acknowledged that the “growing underclass” he promised to tackle in 2008 has probably grown further – rather than decreased – during his first term in government. …

He did not believe the government had not acted on its promise to tackle the issue.

“It’s a long, slow job and there’s a lot more to be done. I don’t accept there’s nothing that can be done, but it will take a long time to make those changes.”

He said he believed welfare reform – planned for National’s second term – would help lift people out of poverty. So too would education policies. …

He said the Government had also done the best it could, in difficult times, to insulate people from the recession.

In other news today, a typical example of the government doing the best it can to help out:

Charities’ food handouts at record after Govt cuts

The Government has slashed the number of food grants to needy families by 20 per cent, driving record numbers to seek food parcels from charities instead.

With friends like the Nats, you’ll never need an enemy…

23 comments on “Nats “help” with more cuts”

  1. Ianupnorth 1

    Building a brighter future!! (for the top 10% of earners only)

  2. Uturn 2

    “He said he believed welfare reform – planned for National’s second term – would help lift people out of poverty. So too would education policies. …”

    Uh oh, I really CAN wait to see how “lifting” people out of poverty turns into lifting them by the neck with a noose. Education has never been the answer, not in an organised school day type way. In NZ poverty of thought is a problem, but generally you can get by without becoming an intellectual. Lack of profitable work is a larger problem, since getting by without that is impossible.

    “He said the Government had also done the best it could, in difficult times, to insulate people from the recession.”

    I can only imagine this means his lot have borrowed some cash for something, cash our grandchildren will owe. I don’t buy it, that it was the only way. The problem is that the ideological blinkers of being a National Party member rules out all other options. There’s so much waste and excess in our country, I just don’t buy the necessity for borrow and cut slogans justified by “insulation” from the recession.

  3. mik e 3

    Muldoomism all over again with the baby face smiling assasin.Muldoomism came to an end because like 76 to 84 National under muldoom borrowed and hoped now under shonkey and dipstick we are repeating the policies of 20 and 30 years ago the credit rating agencies put us on watch just like now
    BORROW and HOPE!
    BORROW to WIN the ELECTION

  4. mik e 4

    PLONKEY opens wineries tour while economy continues to wobble precariously
    SLICKEY visits bid cleaning facility

  5. Craig Glen Eden 5

    So surely if your policies were working you would at least be moving closer to the desired outcome not moving away in every single out come wether it is closing the wage gap with Australia or increasing employment, increasing some positive out comes or at least one?

  6. Richard Down South 6

    What will this save, a few million dollars… this will cost peoples lives… break up homes… cause more strain on other social services, hospitals, schools, courts, police…

    *shakes his head*

    It’s almost at the point where I don’t want to live in NZ any more

    • big bruv 6.1

      The go, if you need any help with the one way airfare give me a shout.

      I am always happy to see the back of another socialist.

      • Richard Down South 6.1.1

        I’m all for people making their own way, but there should be a safety net… anyone with any decency will admit that:

        1) there aren’t alot of jobs out there, unless you have X years experience, and Y qualifications (yet it seems no ones willing to give people experience)

        2) The benefits as they stand, with the cuts that were set in by Ruth many moons ago, having been adjusted for the minimum inflation (not having been adjusted for the current rampant inflation) are a pittance, and id challenge you to try and live on one

        3) number 2 ties in with the standard of living, and the low wages NZ workers get in general

        4) unless you are earning a large 6+ figure salary, and saving a fair bit, then in the end, its easy to lose your job and then where would you be

        • Uturn 6.1.1.1

          You are right. What the bloke below this says about welfare never having worked is because welfare has always been about exclusion and punishment with a breadline existence. You don’t maintain a good potential workforce by pushing unemployeds to the fringe and starving them and then everynight at 6pm calling them bludgers.

  7. big bruv 7

    When it comes to welfare let the cuts be long and deep.

    At what stage do you guys admit that the social welfare system has not worked?

    • When you pay your debts BB.

      • big bruv 7.1.1

        Oh Micky, I thought you were a bit better than that. I thought you might have been able to cobble together a reasoned argument, seems I was wrong.

        Or do you have to take riding orders from head office?

        The cuts are coming, you know they are needed and you know they are right.

        • mickysavage 7.1.1.1

          Reasoned argument?

          Sure try this.  You had a bet with Blip and he nominated wikileaks to receive the proceeds.  You lost but did not pay the money to wikileaks.  The history is here.

          I agree with you that bludgers ought to be confronted and made to pay their debts.

          Doncha think? 

          • big bruv 7.1.1.1.1

            The cuts Micky, the cuts!

            No good trying to create a diversion, no good trying to change the subject. Man up and out together a reasoned argument as to why we should pay parasites more money…if you can.

            As for the bet, well you being a member of the legal fraternity would appreciate better than most that there is no way in hell that I was obliged to pay money to an organisation run by an alleged rapist.
            Come to think of it, you show your true colours (and demonstrate why the public have little faith in your ‘profession’) by being economical with the truth.

            Now Micky, back to the cuts…

            • Draco T Bastard 7.1.1.1.1.1

              There’s no point in discussing anything with you as you’re ideologically blind. You, quite simply, will not see the facts right in front of your face if they go against your faith and as all facts go against your faith that means that you cannot be reasoned with.

    • Tombstone 7.2

      And at what point in time big bruv will your lot admit that Key has done a shit job and that the country under his leadership has gone from bad to fuckin worse. National are shit and the sooner they’re gone the better for everyone.

      • big bruv 7.2.1

        Well Tombstone, at least you have got one thing right. When Key took over the country was in a bad state (bad is the term you used, come to think of it you will be banned from this site for telling the truth if you are not careful).

        Remember the decade of deficits that Cullen left us with?, the way the parasite gleefully said that he had “spent the lot” in an attempt to bankrupt the nation simply to get Labour back into office.

        That type of behaviour is why the people do not trust you lot, they do not trust the self serving union hacks, nor do they rate them (and who can blame them really, Beaumont, Fenton, Pilay and the other assorted union scum who pull the strings inside Labour)

        IMHO Key has not done enough to tackle the real issues, Welfare and the entitlement mindset of Kiwis needs to be addressed but one thing is for sure, the country is far better off with him as PM than it would have been with another term of the disastrous and failed Labour government.

        What really sticks in your throat of course is that you know that I am right, and at least 59.5% of Kiwis agree with me.

        • bbfloyd 7.2.1.1

          little bb…here we go… it’s the voice over guy again…. the improv at the start wasn’t bad, but you fell back on to the script too quickly……gave yourself away…..again..

        • kriswgtn 7.2.1.2

          hahahah delusional dickhead

  8. logie97 8

    Having gutted Kiwi Saver (“cumin ism by shtealth” according to Joky) they now plan to push it … so if you are looking for a flip-flop, how’s that for starters?

  9. Hami Shearlie 9

    National Party Code Words:

    Review = cut
    Reform = cut

    It would pay to actually help to create jobs before welfare is cut, unless Mr Key imagines the poor will simply oblige and die quietly in the gutter. In the real world if people don’t have enough to eat and clothe themselves, they will quite simply steal!! And probably from the rich in Remmers and Parnell. BTW didn’t Mr Key have a burglary some time ago? Think of all the laptops, jewellery and big tellies to be stolen in Mr Key’s protected little world. And while people go hungry, Mr Key happily overspends our money, with a plethora of bodyguards he takes with him every year to Hawaii.!!! Doesn’t he realise, he’s not important enough to kill!!!! He may smile 24/7 but most kiwis aren’t finding much to smile about lately!

    • felix 9.1

      “It would pay to actually help to create jobs before welfare is cut…”

      Yeah but that’s the trouble – it would pay. The workers. Too much. You can buy your labour much cheaper when it’s desperate and frightened.

      Brighter futures everybody and goodnight.

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  • Yes, the SIS is subject to the Public Records Act
    I understand there's some stuff going round about how the SIS "was removed from the list of public offices covered by the Public Records Act in 2017". The context of course being their records derived from US torture, which will be disposed of or sealed. The good news is that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • An evidence-based discussion of the Canadian fluoride/IQ study
    Dr. Christopher Labos and Jonathan Jarry discuss the recent Canadian fluoride/IQ research. They provide an expert analysis of the paper and its problems. Click on image to go to podcast. The critical debate about the recent ...
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  • Climate Change: Australia in denial
    Australia is burning down again, and meanwhile its natural disaster minister is denying climate change:Australia’s minister responsible for drought and natural disasters, David Littleproud, has said that he doesn’t “know if climate change is manmade”. Clarifying earlier comments that the question is “irrelevant” when considering the Coalition government’s response to ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
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  • Philippines activist speaking on the Duterte tyranny
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    RedlineBy Daphna
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  • Disgust
    I have no special insights to offer on the Labour sexual assault coverup. All I have is disgust. Disgust that an organisation could fail its people so badly. Disgust that they punished the victims rather than the perpetrator. Disgust that its party hacks are apparently blaming the victims for demanding ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
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  • Speak Up for Women calls out Greens’ censorship
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    RedlineBy Daphna
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  • Member’s Day: End of Life Choice, part 3
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
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  • Flight to Los Angeles turned back after passengers decide they don’t want to go anymore
    An ambitious plan to fly to Los Angeles petered out into a brief sight-seeing trip and a desire to return home and get some sleep before work tomorrow. Air New Zealand has confirmed a flight to Los Angeles last night was turned back about a quarter of the way into ...
    The CivilianBy admin
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  • Indigenous Futures: defuturing and futuring – an analytical framework for policy development?
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    EllipsisterBy Ellipsister
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  • Cadbury rumoured to be releasing the Pineapple Trump
    Here’s another novelty chocolate to shove in your gob, New Zealand Cadbury could be seeking to make itself great again with a rumoured new release: Pineapple Trumps, a spin on its classic chocolate-encased pineapple treat and do-it-yourself tooth remover. The global confectionery manufacturer and bumbling “before” character in an infomercial, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • The coming resource war.
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    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    2 weeks ago
  • Māori Language Week with The Civilian
    Kia ora, Aotearoa. It’s that magical time of year. Te Wiki o te Reo Māori. In English, the week that frightens talk radio. As you probably know by now, all your favourite media outlets are participating, some more successfully than others. Stuff has changed its name to Puna for the ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Will Horizons act on climate change?
    Local body elections are coming up next month. And it looks like all Palmerston North candidates for Horizons (the Manawatu-Whanganui Regional Council) want to take action on climate change:Climate change is set to be a key issue in Palmerston North for the next three years if those wanting to get ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • BORA reform is stalled
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Corbyn and Brexit
    As the Brexit saga staggers on, the focus is naturally enough on the Prime Minister and his attempts to achieve Brexit “do or die”. But the role played by the Leader of the Opposition is of almost equal interest and complexity. The first problem for Jeremy Corbyn is that he ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 weeks ago

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