Tolley keeps empty schools open

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1. Mr Magoo 1

   4 February 2010 at 11:08 am

   Oh please for the love of god. Can the righties come in and defend this??

   Pretty please with a washed out old politician on top??
   Come on, you know you want to! This here wagon still has a wheel or too left pa!

   Damn I could use the giggle today.

   In other news, john “that nice young man” key has stood fast next to his failing liability of a politician. I admire the solidarity and will just love the fall out.
2. toad 2

   4 February 2010 at 11:19 am

   No doubt she’ll try to blame it on a bureaucrat “failing to correctly advise her”.

   Interesting too that she’s refusing to front the media on the issue – maybe the nice Mr Key will have to front up for her on this one too.

   How can he continue to have confidence in such a train wreck of a Minister. I’m old enough to remember Merv Wellington, but I’ve becoing increasingly convinced that Tolley is an even worse Education Minister than he was.
3. Scribe 3

   4 February 2010 at 11:21 am

   Wouldn’t people in the Education Ministry be the ones charged with handling the paperwork for the closure of a school?

   Oh, and I think it’s a bit rich to say that parents didn’t want national standards. This was part of National’s election platform and barring a few teenage pregnancies, it was parents who overwhelming chose that party over any other.
   • r0b 3.1

     4 February 2010 at 12:45 pm

     barring a few teenage pregnancies, it was parents who overwhelming chose that party over any other

     Classy. And wrong too, unless you have your own personal definition of “overwhelming”.
     • felix 3.1.1

       4 February 2010 at 1:35 pm

       Scribe saw a map of the election results and thought that everyone in the blue electorates had voted National.

       He was overwhelmed.
4. toad 4

   4 February 2010 at 11:23 am

   The Minister has to sign off the consultation process to close a school.
   • Scribe 4.1

     4 February 2010 at 11:38 am

     Sorry, haven’t read all the info. Was all the relevant documentation given to her and she forgot to sign it?
     • lprent 4.1.1

       4 February 2010 at 11:42 am

       I gather so. However I guess we now know why she needed get more time to work in her portfolios, so one was removed.
       • Jewish Kiwi 4.1.1.1

         4 February 2010 at 11:45 am

         …or she was engrossed in Facebook’s Farmville while her intray piled up.

         (Happens to me, I am afraid to say)
       • spot 4.1.1.2

         4 February 2010 at 12:04 pm

         “I gather so” – in which case the relevant Private Secretary and Ministry officials are grossly incompetent.

         Which I seriously, seriously doubt.

         It sounds like classic “the means being more important than the ends” piece of process-following, which is understandable, for the most part these consultative measures are in place for good reason.

         However, you’d think the Minister, given reasonable grounds (and on advice from officials), could circumvent it out of common sense.

         ….ahh, common sense, I see.
         • snoozer 4.1.1.2.1

           4 February 2010 at 12:08 pm

           or, she could jsut have started the process in time.

           ministers don’t get to circumvent the rules whenever they believe it is ‘common sense’ to do so. We have rule of law, not rule of subjective ‘common sense’, precisely because ministers will tend to define ‘common sense’ through the prism of their political views and needs.
           • spot 4.1.1.2.1.1

             4 February 2010 at 12:36 pm

             Snoozer – don’t let my qualifiers get in the way of you making a point, you’ll find me agreeing with you.

             So, no grounds for discretion then?

             In which case this process is seen through to its conclusion. Fair enough, like I said, these measures are in place for good reason.

             On responsibility for triggering the process – clearly Ministry and Operational in detail, so she’s either vicariously responsible or, worse, directly.

             But we lack the background and detail to be certain.
5. Julie Fairey 5

   4 February 2010 at 11:27 am

   I thought the principal of Tomahawk School, Richard Aitken, was quite witty about it all on Campbell Live last night. Kind of ironic they are asking for the axe and not getting it!
6. Jewish Kiwi 6

   4 February 2010 at 11:29 am

   Did she really say that about Vice Chancellors? That is priceless.
   • snoozer 6.1

     4 February 2010 at 12:03 pm

     yeah, it’s true 🙂 that was some time early last year.

     Mallard makes a reference to it here http://www.parliament.nz/CmsSystem/Templates/Documents/DetailedListing.aspx?NRNODEGUID=%7B81A6F93D-1EE4-4555-8C13-D2CE20941627%7D&p=3&search=0
7. Lew 7

   4 February 2010 at 11:53 am

   I haven’t been able to track down the whole thing, but Kevin Fogarty (of Ukuleles in Schools) has a song about “Chopper”, a snippet of which was played on NatRad the other day.

   Chop chop dolly, that Anne Tolley, policy’s not great
   She’s dumbing down the children we’re supposed to educate
   No more money for music, art, science or PE
   Hey Anne Tolley, three R’s ain’t the key.

   L
8. tc 8

   4 February 2010 at 12:15 pm

   No surprises here however unlike the past gov’t who would have had the granny herald and other MSM oulets howling for heads to roll and banging the drum….contrast that to what we see now and you’d think everything is all rosy and fine.

   Tolley is a pin-up model for the low brow, low intellect, shut up and do as I say attitude that yields anger, frustration and poor outcomes……and she’s not alone.

   The bigger issue is a gutless do nothing PM who lacks the bollocks and talent to make the required changes……you have to have some sympathy for Johnny Clown, his hand is a very weak one with the ministers at his disposal.

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