Trump Chicago rally cancelled amid protests

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1. joe90 1

   12 March 2016 at 5:27 pm

   The linked Guardian article –

   After the postponement was announced, a Trump campaign statement said: “Mr Trump just arrived in Chicago and after meeting with law enforcement has determined that for the safety of all of the tens of thousands of people that have gathered in and around the arena, tonight’s rally will be postponed to another date.

   Oh look, Trump lied, again.

   9:25 p.m.

   A spokesman for the Chicago Police Department says the agency never recommended that Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump cancel his campaign rally in the city.

   CPD spokesman Anthony Guglielmi tells The Associated Press that the department never told the Trump campaign there was a security threat at the University of Illinois at Chicago venue. He said the department had sufficient manpower on the scene to handle any situation.

   Guglielmi says the university’s police department also did not recommend that Trump call off the event. He says the decision was made “independently” by the campaign.

   Trump cancelled the rally in Chicago due to what organizers said were safety concerns after protesters packed into the arena where it was to take place.

   Trump afterward told MSNBC in a telephone interview that he canceled the event because he didn’t “want to see people hurt or worse.” He said he thinks he “did the right thing.”

   Guglielmi says Trump never arrived at the Chicago venue.

   http://bigstory.ap.org/article/3cdda4be66f74874adaaa31ba49488e1/latest-trump-says-generals-will-play-their-own-game
   • alwyn 1.1

     12 March 2016 at 7:02 pm

     “Trump lied”.
     What is the “lie” you are talking about.
     The piece you quote says merely that Trump met with law enforcement people and that he decided to postpone the rally. It doesn’t claim that the Police recommended it.
     It is only the Guardian that says he cancelled on the advice of the Police. Trump can hardly be blamed by a false statement by a newspaper that dislikes him.
     Is there something else you are talking about because there is nothing here to justify your claim.
     • joe90 1.1.1

       12 March 2016 at 7:13 pm

       Really.

       “We met with security and the law enforcement, who I think did a terrific job, and they told me it’d be best not to go in and do the speech,” Trump reiterated in an interview with Fox News’ Sean Hannity after the postponed event.

       When asked again by Hannity on whether law enforcement motivated his decision, Trump again responded affirmatively.

       http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-stands-by-claim-chicago-police-advised-event-cancellation/article/2585631?custom_click=rss
       • alwyn 1.1.1.1

         12 March 2016 at 7:20 pm

         Thank you. There was something else and it justifies what you say.
         I just couldn’t see anything in the Guardian story.
2. Chooky 2

   12 March 2016 at 5:40 pm

   ‘Chicago Trump rally cancelled amid protests, chaos’

   https://www.rt.com/usa/335316-trump-rally-cancel-violence/

   …whoever cancelled it made a wise decision
   • OneTrack 2.1

     12 March 2016 at 6:36 pm

     Yeah, who knows what some twisted totalitarian leftist is likely to do when somebody says something they don’t approve of. Anything for the cause, Komrade, anything for the cause.
3. adam 3

   12 March 2016 at 5:48 pm

   Nice!
4. Pasupial 4

   12 March 2016 at 6:01 pm

   “Whatever happened to freedom of speech?”… You’re looking at it.

   There is a long history of violence at Trump events. In the past week alone, an attack on a non-violent protester led to criminal charges against a Trump supporter and Michelle Fields, a reporter for conservative website Breitbart News, was allegedly assaulted by Corey Lewandowski, Trump’s campaign manager.

   Trump has played a role in encouraging this culture of violence. When the Republican frontrunner appeared in St. Louis earlier on Friday, an event that featured more than 30 arrests, he complained “part of the problem and part of the reason it takes so long [to kick protesters out] is nobody wants to hurt each other anymore.” Trump added “There used to be consequences. There are none anymore. These people are so bad for our country. You have no idea folks, you have no idea.”

   Consequences: Freedom to speak implies; freedom to respond, not; compulsion to listen.
   • OneTrack 4.1

     12 March 2016 at 6:49 pm

     I know you lefties aren’t good at freedom of speech, but the freedom to respond means to respond with an alternative argument ie more speech, not a licence to cause mayhem trying to stop somebody saying something you don’t like. Just sayin.
     • Craig H 4.1.1

       12 March 2016 at 6:57 pm

       Freedom of assembly is also an important right.
     • Gangnam Style 4.1.2

       12 March 2016 at 7:49 pm

       Shit stirrer.
     • Ben 4.1.3

       12 March 2016 at 7:59 pm

       So throwing dildos and brown muck is not OK when you lack the intelligence to come up with a coherent arguement then?
       • weka 4.1.3.1

         12 March 2016 at 8:34 pm

         Throwing dildos and brown muck IS a coherent argument when you are talking to protofacists.
         • alwyn 4.1.3.1.1

           12 March 2016 at 9:33 pm

           You are crazy.
           Joyce and Brownlee protofacists?
           Absolutely crazy.
           • AB 4.1.3.1.1.1

             12 March 2016 at 10:10 pm

             If you take fascism to be a seamless alignment of state and corporate power and ‘proto’ to mean early (or very early), then he is not crazy at all. Certainly a lot less crazy than Key calling Working For Families “communism by stealth”.
             Notice he is not suggesting that it will inevitably move beyond ‘proto’. Nor is he suggesting that any of the surface trappings of early 20th century fascism such as mass rallies and strutting about in uniforms are present,(Though Brownlee might fancy the strutting bit).

             Think before you impugn the mental health of others.
           • weka 4.1.3.1.1.2

             12 March 2016 at 10:49 pm

             It was a throwaway line in reponse to OneTrack above who was making stupid generalisations. But it’s also true at a less hyperbolic level as AB points out.
           • adam 4.1.3.1.1.3

             13 March 2016 at 10:06 am

             A play on words, and of course in this case a humorous response from weka, is not an opportunity to personally attack.

             If you had any civility, you would have responded in kind. But, as we see from you all to often, it’s abuse. An instant attack of a women for for being nuts, for expressing an opinion.

             I for one am sick of this type of response, have a look in the mirror and ask your self why you are such a misogynist.
             • alwyn …

               13 March 2016 at 10:17 am

               Yes dear.
               Calling someone a fascist, or even a protofacist is not a humorous response to anyone.
               My views don’t depend in any way on whether someone is male or female. If they make sense I applaud. If they are silly I say so. Perhaps you should try it.
               By the way. I know of no rule that requires you to read anything I say. Why bother if it upsets you so much?
               • adam …

                 13 March 2016 at 10:27 am

                 Poor alwyn, not happy to be called out

                 Demeaning is cool for you – no point in forming an argument when you can just abuse a women ah?

                 Silly billy me, for thinking you could act like an adult.
               • Pasupial …

                 13 March 2016 at 12:02 pm

                 Just Fuck Off with that Shit Alwyn!

                 If you reply to someone’s comment, then yes; your comment will be read and probably responded to by that person (at least if they’ve got time, I don’t always manage it myself). Saying; “I know of no rule that requires you to read anything I say”, is like claiming that when you phone someone to shout abuse down the line at them, they have no need to listen to you. By the time they realize that your words are empty noise, your bile has already coated them.
                 • weka …

                   13 March 2016 at 12:31 pm

                   Let’s also note that I told him what I meant by the comment and he hasn’t replied to that. Because he’s not interested in what people mean, he just wants to be nasty to people he disagrees with politically. Can’t even be honest about it and tries to make out he’s just naming someone’s silly beliefs.

                   I just watched some video analysis of Trump that included quite a few clips of Trump’s nastiness. I though, that sounds like alwyn. The same slurring of the person in demeaning ways and pretending that its politics. It’s not.

                   The reason people are so alarmed by Trump isn’t his politics, it’s that he is deliberately inciting hatred. I don’t know what alwyn’s motivations are, but there is a similar kind of I would hurt you if I could. Trump is scarey because he has a huge amount of power and is actively wielding it to harm people. We’re relatively safe from alwyn but he reminds of the occassional person I’ve known who I wouldn’t trust if I lived in a state with no law and order. They have no inherent morals.
                   • alwyn …

                     13 March 2016 at 11:44 pm

                     @weka
                     I suppose I should simply say that, although you occasionally say something sensible, many of your comments can only be regarded as something that is expressed by a bird-brain.
                     I wonder if Adam would regard this as merely a play on words and a humorous comment? He seems to have a very low standard with respect to foolish statements by his friends.
                 • alwyn …

                   13 March 2016 at 1:06 pm

                   “If you reply to someone’s comment”.
                   That, as written is quite sensible. However if I reply to a comment by someone called “weka” it doesn’t require that “adam” needs to read it, does it?.
                   Unless they were the same person of course.
                   As for weka’s “It was just a throwaway line”.
                   I don’t regard calling anyone a facist, unless they are Mussolini or Hitler and their cohorts as being in any way humorous. Brownlee and Joyce aren’t and shouldn’t be described as such.
                   • adam …

                     13 March 2016 at 8:51 pm

                     Fascism is not just a historical occurrence.

                     Are you really that ignorant alwyn?

                     Do you understand what the definition of fascism is in a political sense?

                     Do you know the differences between ideologies?
                   • alwyn …

                     13 March 2016 at 11:36 pm

                     Yes you stupid idiot, I do no what I am talking about.
                     You clearly don’t have the faintest idea.
                     There is no conceivable way in which Joyce or Brownlee can be classed as a facist..
                     Now piss off you imbecile.
     • adam 4.1.4

       13 March 2016 at 10:18 am

       OneTrack knows no history, and it shows. Read a book, look at the past, have an well rounded opinion formed from expanding your mind. You might just learn what you said is utter dribble.

       May I point out Emma Goldman, and her campaign for women’s control of their own reproduction.

       Mother Jones, and her campaigns with miners.

       The whole anti-war movement – is engaged in free speech.

       Free speech means I get to say what you don’t like. Like your hate speech will destroy society. That if you say racist and demeaning things, I get to say you are a low life. And If what you says provokes violence and mayhem – then I get to call you on it.

       So OneTrack you have displayed you are an ignorant fool. Which is your right under the freedom of speech. I’m just using my freedom to encourage you to put your brain into gear a bit more, or failing that, let me offer you a napkin.
       • Colonial Viper 4.1.4.1

         13 March 2016 at 10:27 am

         The people who attacked the Trump event are not some modern day equivalent of Emma Goldman or Mother Jones.

         Attacking Trump supports the GOP establishment and the leadership prospects of that extreme Tea Partier known as Cruz.
         • adam 4.1.4.1.1

           13 March 2016 at 10:35 am

           In context I was pointing out the left have a longer history on freespeech.

           And If the GOP put up Cruz they are toast.

           Their own supporter base won’t vote in the general election. Look at the polls. Their own internal polling shows it.

           the average republican is a supporter of social security, and many basic provisions like Medicaid.

           Cruz, is a lame duck.
           • Pasupial 4.1.4.1.1.1

             13 March 2016 at 11:28 am

             This is an interesting piece from one of the protestors inside the building (without their words being refracted through the prism of the MSM):

             1. I am safe.

             2. Trump’s supporters are racist, nativist, bigoted thugs. Some of them are just profoundly ignorant and contrarian malcontents. Others are more dangerous.

             3. Don’t believe the Fox News lie. Almost all of the “fights” were started by Trump supporters. I was pretty close to several of them.

             4. There are lots of very angry and racially resentful white conservatives in this country. I know this to be true as an empirical fact. Seeing it first hand and listening to them behind me in line is another matter.

             5. The Chicago police exercised great restraint. They were professionals.

             6. Black conservative shuck and buck artists are everywhere. Several of them tried to earn points for their white masters by fighting Black Lives Matter and other protesters.

             7. I can be hard on America’s young people. Based on what I saw with the black, brown, white, yellow, and red brothers and sisters at the Chicago rally I think we may somehow be okay.

             8. When it was announced that the Trump rally was canceled some of his supporters looked like they were going to cry. Santa Claus ain’t coming to their house this year.

             9. I am unsure if Donald Trump ever intended to show up. He is a manager of optics and he may have just wanted to try to gain sympathy and win over more of the Reagan Democrats “law and order” types.

             10. There was lots of hippie-punching rhetoric and behavior to be had at the Chicago Trump rally.

             http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/3/12/1500117/-My-Experience-at-Donald-Trump-s-No-Show-Rally-In-Chicago-With-Video

             I mainly go to Daily Kos for the comics; Tom Tomorrow, K Chronicles etc. But it’s been fascinating reading while the candidate campaign has been going on. Another piece there quotes this Mario Savio speech:

             https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJKbDz4EZio

             Trump rallies are modern day cross burnings. They are modern day Nuremberg rallies. Seeing these young people going right into the belly of the beast has made me feel something in my middle-aged gut. These young people, they’re right. They’re amazing. They are taking the blows for the rest of us. I’m glad to see young liberals are joining them. I have tremendous respect for what they are doing. They are showing amazing courage and idealism. I couldn’t imagine attending any political rally for any reason, much less a Trump rally. Even to peacefully protest it.

             http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/03/12/1499600/-They-are-throwing-their-bodies-on-the-gears
         • weka 4.1.4.1.2

           13 March 2016 at 12:34 pm

           “Attacking Trump supports the GOP establishment and the leadership prospects of that extreme Tea Partier known as Cruz.”

           I suspect that some of the protestors don’t actually care about that as much as they care about the incitement of hatred that is going on that already directly affects them.
5. Colonial Viper 5

   12 March 2016 at 7:27 pm

   Wouldn’t be surprised if the Republican establishment helped set up this protest action against Trump. There will be more dirty tricks against him to come.
   • joe90 5.1

     12 March 2016 at 8:13 pm

     Soros!.
     /

     tillerylakelady
     ‏@tillerylakelady

     Soros funding #BlackLivesMatter to protest #Trump Rally in Chicago! #tcot

     https://twitter.com/tillerylakelady/status/708468428856827904

     Alex Seitz-Wald
     ✔
     ‎@aseitzwald

     Marco Rubio on Fox News: “I guarantee you some of these [protesters] are being paid to do it.”

     https://twitter.com/aseitzwald/status/708482315673014272
6. millsy 6

   12 March 2016 at 8:00 pm

   Trump is a godsend to the GOP — they can portray him as an extremist and make themselves more moderate when they are nothing of the sort.

   Us lefties can pat ourselves on the backs for keeping Trump out of power, then President Cruz can then sell off the Post Office, Amtrak and the TVA, launch a progrom against homosexuals in the teaching profession and the public service, ban any mention of evolution whatsoever and launch a constitutional amendment banning abortion.

   Cool.
   • Andre 6.1

     12 March 2016 at 8:27 pm

     Well yes, that was the plan for Rubio. To make it happen the Republican establishment were falling all over themselves telling everybody what a nasty oily PoS Cruz was too. Gonna be interesting watching them walk that back.
7. joe90 7

   12 March 2016 at 9:02 pm

   Rachel Maddow on violence at Trump rallies.

   (my bold)

   This is a classic strong man political tactic that we are used to seeing in other countries but not our own. Certainly not in the last 50 years or so, in which political events are generated to bring violence at the edges into the center. So that violence at these events, which may start organically, is in effect spot lit and encouraged to the point where it becomes something that is legitimately out of control of anyone. And then the spectacle of political violence is itself seen as something that is a problem that needs to be solved by this strongman character who incited the initial event in the first place.

   It’s political science in way. It’s not something that we’re used to seeing in American politics. But trying to gin up political violence for its electoral utility is inarguably what we are seeing here. I know the Trump campaign will not say that is what they’re doing. But when you look at the way that Mr. Trump has been talking about the organic existence of both protesters against him and violence toward those protesters at his event, when you look at the way that he has encouraged it in an escalating way leading to this inevitable event tonight in Chicago, I think that it is impossible to say that this is an accident.

   http://mediamatters.org/video/2016/03/11/rachel-maddow-it-is-impossible-to-call-violence/209204
   • emergency mike 7.1

     13 March 2016 at 2:58 am

     Nailed it. Such a sickening sense of deja vu from all this.
   • miravox 7.2

     13 March 2016 at 6:34 am

     “So that violence at these events, which may start organically”,

     The thing is – it doesn’t start organically. It’s sitting in people’s heads waiting for someone to say it’s ok to release it.

     Cruz and Rubio are very scary because you know exactly were they stand – and they stand at the worst end of Drumpf’s rhetoric. But they express it differently, which is why they don’t have the similar violence at their rallies (imo).

     He doesn’t approve after the fact, Drumpf gives permission for people to act out on that they already have festering in their heads.

     It’s leadership that allows this to be expressed openly. This is leadership of the worst kind.

     We’ve seen it happen in less violent forms all around the world when the dog whistlers strike a chord.
8. Steve Wrathall 8

   12 March 2016 at 9:29 pm

   Indulging in brownshirt tactics and showing they are opposed to free speech. These numpties are playing right into Trump’s hands.
   • joe90 8.1

     12 March 2016 at 9:36 pm

     Of course they did, Stevie.

     A message from UIC Police Chief Kevin Booker:

     The University of Illinois at Chicago worked with all appropriate agencies to address the security concerns associated with an event of this nature including the Secret Service, Chicago Police Department and Illinois State Police as well as campaign and protest organizers.

     The vast majority of attendees at today’s events exercised their Constitutional rights of free speech and free assembly peacefully.

     The abrupt announcement of the cancellation of the event created challenges in managing an orderly exit from the Pavilion, which nonetheless, was accomplished with no injuries or arrests.

     https://www.facebook.com/uic.edu/?fref=ts
   • emergency mike 8.2

     13 March 2016 at 3:11 am

     How about the people who repeat Trump’s spin lines on blogs? Are they playing into Trumps’s hands Steve?
     • North 8.2.1

       13 March 2016 at 11:22 am

       Brilliant how seamlessly Wrathall (ACT) aligns with Trump. Pathological though. Like we always suspected re ACT.
9. Psycho Milt 9

   13 March 2016 at 6:36 am

   Going out to fight your political opponents in the streets isn’t standing up for democracy, it’s just getting into fights in the street. Nett result is most likely extra votes for a politician perceived as a strong man who’ll put a stop to that sort of carry-on. In this contest, that’s Trump. These idiots would have been better off staying home.
   • miravox 9.1

     13 March 2016 at 7:40 am

     ” Nett result is most likely extra votes for a politician perceived as a strong man “

     Sometimes it works out that way, sometimes it doesn’t. Immediate thought is the anti-apartheid demos in NZ. The news at the time was vile, but in the end the people who didn’t like disruption could see the hardliners had got out of hand. Short story is that wasn’t good for the political establishment’s longevity.
     • Pasupial 9.1.1

       13 March 2016 at 11:54 am

       Psychomilt
       I see your and Joe90’s (quoting Rachael Maddow at comment 7 above) point about this conflict being engineered to serve Trump’s purposes. But there is no evidence (beyond the serial liar Trump’s word) that the protesters were there to; “[go] out to fight your political opponents in the streets”. Perhaps the protesters should have exercised Ghandi-esque passive resistance when confronted by the violence from Trump’s goons, but they didn’t seem to have the practice or discipline (yet).

       It is very easy to take a detached perspective from the other side of the world and talk about ideal actions. On the ground, if you were in Chicago and thought that; “Trump rallies are modern day cross burnings. They are modern day Nuremberg rallies”, then you might be driven to action no matter how flawed:

       There’s a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can’t take part! You can’t even passively take part! And you’ve got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels…upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you’ve got to make it stop! And you’ve got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it, that unless you’re free, the machine will be prevented from working at all!

       http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/03/12/1499600/-They-are-throwing-their-bodies-on-the-gears
10. ropata 10

    13 March 2016 at 11:34 am

    Trump is scaring the shit out of a lot of people, and enjoying it. The colossal fool is lighting a fire that he won’t be able to control.

    Violence and vulgarity: Admit it. You saw those two words in the title and knew this post was going to be about… https://t.co/ha167VmVJw— PZ Myers (@pzmyers) March 12, 2016
    • weka 10.1

      13 March 2016 at 1:12 pm

      I’m guessing he doesn’t care.
    • Colonial Viper 10.2

      13 March 2016 at 1:18 pm

      Just remember that this is a world that the Lefty liberals and the warmongering corporate loving Democrats have also played their part in creating.

      Where Trump has access to a massive undercurrent of anger and cultural alienation consisting of millions of Americans who have been ignored and left behind by the power elite.
      • weka 10.2.1

        13 March 2016 at 1:21 pm

        Where do you fit into that CV?
        • Colonial Viper 10.2.1.1

          13 March 2016 at 1:32 pm

          Just a nobody commentator on the other side of the world from the US. Where do you fit into it, weka?
          • weka 10.2.1.1.1

            13 March 2016 at 2:03 pm

            I think you are using false binaries in your analysis in an attempt to undermine the left. You also have a more grounded and nuanced analysis of class, but I haven’t heard it in a while, or it’s getting drowned out by the divide and damn sloganeering.

            As for where I stand, let’s just say that unlike some Labour critics I’ve never voted Labour.

            (edited)
            • Colonial Viper 10.2.1.1.1.1

              13 March 2016 at 2:15 pm

              Stating that the Left is stuck in the 19th/20th century, and that the establishment Left is now an integral part of the power elite, is hardly undermining it.

              It’s just pointing out the obvious.

              Plenty of Sanders and Trump supporters get it, for instance.
              • Chooky …

                13 March 2016 at 2:42 pm

                +100 CV

                The fact that Trump is hated by the Republican establishment and he is anti TPPA should give one pause for thought… and imo means he deserves some consideration, despite his other drawbacks

                “Donald Trump said today he would not ratify the TPPA if he become President later this year, as he said (quote) “12 countries are lining up to destroy themselves signing TPPA ” according to RNZ this morning.
                We don’t like Trump but he is right there on TPPA.”

                – See more at: http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2016/03/12/what-bernie-sanders-and-donald-trump-have-in-common/#sthash.I2fy5e3C.dpuf

                Trump is also against what USA has been doing in the Middle East

                ‘World would be a better place with Saddam, Gaddafi still in power – Trump’

                https://www.rt.com/usa/319681-trump-saddam-gaddafi-better/
                • Kiwiri …

                  13 March 2016 at 2:51 pm

                  Sanders has also just said he won’t send TPP to Congress and will fight any effort to pass TPP:

                  http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/03/12/sanders-accepts-challenge-kill-tpp-if-elected-nothing-clinton-so-far
                  • TheBlackKitten …

                    13 March 2016 at 3:48 pm

                    Sanders is also the only other candidate to touch on the subject of China and how the states is losing jobs because they can’t compete with the slave labour rates of China. He does not talk about it very much but he is the only other one apart from Trump to actually speak about it. All the rest just ignore it and yet it’s not only a huge issue for the states but for the whole western world that are loosing millions of jobs because of countries that will work their people in similar conditions to those of Victorian England.
                    Isn’t it funny that the only candidates that speak of China are the only two with no backing from the rich corporations?
                • Colonial Viper …

                  13 March 2016 at 2:52 pm

                  Thanks for the updates, Chooky and Kiwiri.
              • weka …

                13 March 2016 at 2:57 pm

                It’s how you are saying it and that you don’t say anything else that’s the problem. The false binary plays into the hands of people like Trump.

                I’m not sure if I would believe you if you are saying you don’t want to undermine the left.
                • ropata …

                  13 March 2016 at 4:35 pm

                  Does that mean we should all support Hillary? Vomit.

                  Honestly, she’s probably just as bad as Trump, at least he hasn’t actually committed any war crimes (yet)
                  • weka …

                    13 March 2016 at 5:25 pm

                    I don’t buy the war crimes argument. The guy is trying to incite a civil war at home. Probably better for the world than fucking over another country, but he’s not less damaging, his targets are just different.
11. TheBlackKitten 11

    13 March 2016 at 3:33 pm

    Sorry, but I am suspicious, although to many people Trump may be a racist insane bigot you do have to wonder why the rich in the states hate him so much and don’t want him to be the nominee. I can guarantee that their motives will be to do more with money than the safety of people or worrying that the republicans will loose to Hilliary with Trump.
    I think they are shit scared because he is going to do something about China and its about to cost the corporations billions which by the way, I think would be a good thing. Anyone here who disputes that then must support the slave labour laws that the Chinese force on their peasents that makes their economy so powerful and steals the jobs from ours. Trump has a lot of faults but his views on China are not one of them.
    I am suspicious of these sudden attacks at his rallies as they were not occurring four weeks ago. Don’t put it past the corporations to set this up by winding people up with Trumps racists slogans and the fact that he is doing so well in the primaries. I think people need to think further about Trump and ask themselves why is it that the 1 percent rich in America are starting to panic about his popularity. I bet my bottom dollar it has something to do with all the billions they will loose if they loose their acces to the chap slave labour of China.
    • joe90 11.1

      13 March 2016 at 9:10 pm

      you do have to wonder

      Fucking mysteries….
      /

      (March 1932 issue of Cosmopolitan – I Saw Hitler)

      But if you want to gauge the strength of the Hitler movement, imagine that in America, an orator with the tongue of the late Mr. Bryan and the histrionic powers of Aimee MacPherson, combined with the publicity gifts of Edward Bernays and Ivy Lee should manage to unite all the farmers, with all the white collar unemployed, all the people with salaries under $3000 a year who have lost their savings in bank collapses and the stock market and are being pressed for payments on the icebox and the radio, the louder evangelical preachers, the American Legion, the D.A.R., the Ku Klux Klan, the W.C.T.U., Mathew Woll, Senator Borah, and Henry Ford–imagine that, and you will have some idea of what the Hitler movement in Germany means.”

      http://isites.harvard.edu/fs/docs/icb.topic1292219.files/Week%205/I%20Saw%20Hitler!.pdf
      • joe90 11.1.1

        13 March 2016 at 9:35 pm

        meh, link above jiggers itself so here’s a hyperlink

        btw, them Trumpers are all class.

        The next time we see him, we might have to kill him

        http://www.insideedition.com/headlines/15177-trump-supporter-who-punched-protester-next-time-we-might-have-to-kill-him
12. Terry Milovich 12

    16 March 2016 at 1:30 am

    I just wonder who the first one to throw the stone. I mean, the supporters of Trump’s ideas can sometimes lose their temper very quickly but it might have been the opposition’s fault as well. It must have been really tough there though, since safety concerns usually means something big

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