web analytics

Turnbull out, Morrison In?

Written By: - Date published: 2:29 pm, August 23rd, 2018 - 100 comments
Categories: australian politics, class war, International, leadership - Tags:

It’s all turned to custard for Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull. Despite winning a leadership ballot earlier in the week, the vultures of the hard right kept circling and this morning several Cabinet Ministers announced that they had changed their minds and now believed Turnbull has to go.

It now looks as if Turnbull has accepted that he no longer has the numbers and ally, Treasurer Scott Morrison, is being primed to replace him. Morrison will likely face off against Australia’s nastiest politician, Peter Dutton, who will be looking to pick up the 8 further caucus votes he needs to take the reigns.

Whoever wins, Australia will probably end the day with a PM who has not been given a mandate to lead by Aussie voters. Weirdly, this is the eleventh time this has happened in 60 years and the third time in a decade.

In the last hour Parliament has been closed early, just before Question Time was due to be held.  Labor leader Bill Shorten was quick to point out what this means:

“Australia no longer has a functioning government. This is the ultimate admission of surrender, of a bankrupt government, of a failed government”.

 

UPDATE: Malcolm Turnbull calls press conference at 1PM AEST (3PM in NZ).

UPDATE: Turnbull expects a ballot tomorrow, will not stand.

UPDATE: Julie Bishop is doing the numbers, expected to run.

UPDATE (Friday arvo) Scott Morrison is PM.

 

 

100 comments on “Turnbull out, Morrison In? ”

  1. Ad 1

    Why Morrison not Bishop?
    She’s staunch and electable.

    • ScottGN 1.1

      Maybe she noted what they did to Gillard?
      At any rate she’s been staunch in saying that she won’t stand for the leaders job.

    • Exkiwiforces 1.2

      Old Julie doesn’t want the job, she is more of moderate Liberal than her female peers on the right.

      • Ad 1.2.1

        It’s the smart play for Bishop.

        Wait out the next election when they get done like a dinner by Labor, then go for leadership then.

        • Exkiwiforces 1.2.1.1

          I really don’t think she well make move the Libs top job now or after the next election as they have a few wee issues with the WA Libs atm.

    • One Two 1.3

      Perpetual #2’s like to retain the ability to knife whats head of them in the back…

      Bishop is a coward…not staunch or electable…

      If being a coward and lacking integrity are requirements for PM in the modern era….Bishops credentials are as solid as any other…

      Politics has failed in the anglo nations…those who vote for its continuation are are the problem…

  2. Morrissey 2

    Julie Bishop is one of the most disgraceful and reprehensible politicians in Australia. And that’s about as low and disgusting as anyone could be.

    In Canberra last week I met some Australian members of parliament. It gave me hope, because until I heard them speak I had always thought that Israel’s right wing politicians were the worst. —-(LAUGHTER)— I’ve never heard any Israeli politician speak about the Palestinian people the way that those Australian politicians did. But they are Australia’s problem, not mine. (LAUGHTER) I spoke with the Australian foreign minister; she talked and she was very nice but we could not agree on anything. (LAUGHTER)”

    —-Gideon Levy, speaking in Auckland, Dec. 3, 2017

    https://morrisseybreen.blogspot.com/2017/12/unbelievable-brutality-day-after-day.html

  3. thechangeling 3

    What are the ramifications for us?

    • Morrison is pretty pro-kiwi. He even worked here as director of Tourism NZ under the Clark government. He’s very matey with Murray McCully, though that doesn’t count for much these days.

      • WILD KATIPO 3.1.1

        Pretty pro Kiwi, eh?

        Hmmm….

        • greywarshark 3.1.1.1

          He’ll probably have to come down rwice as hard on us then, to show he is a lreal Ozzie.

          I have said they despise us as they have been able to pull a lot of wool over our eyes. But then I was forgetting that Key led the way to antipathy when he said he was going to drop our wages and encourage Oz business to come over here because of the lower costs. Australians didn’t appreciate that idea of competition; after all they have been staunch and kept their unions and wouldn’t want to limit their prosperity. So businesses would cop flak if they gave up on Oz workers to come here. And they all turn and give us the thumbs down.

      • Morrissey 3.1.2

        Morrison is pretty pro-kiwi.

        He is? Could you direct us to an instance of him speaking out against the rogue Australian regime’s brutal crackdown on “Kiwis”, i.e. Maori domiciled in Australia?

    • Exkiwiforces 3.2

      I think NZ will do rather well if SCO MO does become PM, but I’m really unsure of Buttons/ Cone Head atm, but my gut feeling is it maybe a frosty relationship as the right wing Liberals don’t really understand MMP and the effects of the Neo-Con/ Lib economic theory has had on little old NZ.

  4. Dennis Frank 4

    “Malcolm Turnbull says his intention is to call a Liberal party room meeting at midday tomorrow, if he sees the letter with a majority of MPs supporting Peter Dutton. The PM says it’s important to get the solicitor-general’s advice on his rival’s eligibility to sit in Parliament.” (ABC News)

    • Dennis Frank 4.1

      “Sydney University constitutional law professor Anne Twomey had earlier told Fairfax the case was “borderline”. “I do think there is a danger for him,” Professor Twomey said. “I think there is a reasonable case for his disqualification but he also has a reasonable defence.”” [from Stuff]

      So, in a battle between Dutton & Morrison, centrists have a choice between a rightist and a moderate? And the rightist has a 50-50 chance of being ineligible? Why would any centrist go for Dutton on that basis? Unless Morrison has alienated some centrists in the past, he should beat Dutton easily.

      “With Mr Dutton appearing set to become Prime Minister, Labor unsuccessfully tried to refer him to the High Court over his eligibility to sit in Parliament. The vote to send Mr Dutton to the High Court failed by the narrowest possible margin, 68 for and 69 against. Mr Turnbull voted with the rest of the Coalition against sending Mr Dutton to the High Court.”

      So when Turnbull resigns as PM, Labour ought to try that ploy again on the basis that Turnbull could switch his vote to secure that High Court verdict. [2nd quote from ABC]

      • dukeofurl 4.1.1

        Turnbull has referred Duttons eligibility to the Commonwealth Solicitor general, for ‘an opinion’

        I think thats seen as a way to run out the clock, but Duttons case in not exactly clear cut, as they said that Joyce was safe too ( and dint need to stand down) until Court said he was out.

      • Exkiwiforces 4.1.2

        I was listening to the ABC News Radio this afternoon around lunchtime and they did a piece on Buttons Child care centre with the reporter from the ABC who was working in co-junction with CH10.

        That the information they have gather of the last couple of weeks and Buttons reply which is dated back to around Apr of this yr saying he is in the clear, is fact wrong as child care subsidies came in force in Jul and are directly paided into the child care centres therefore Buttons is receiving income from the Commonwealth and in breach of Section 44 of the Constitution which was further backed up legal advice from a independent SC which then backed up from CH10’s SC as they were to run the story early this week before all this shenanigans started.

        So it’s looks like old Buttons might be on the long walk home back to Bis Vegas.

        • dukeofurl 4.1.2.1

          yes. Some 20 yrs ago a secondary school teacher who won a by election as an independent was rules as invalidly election as he as a school teacher at the time of nominations closed was considered to have a financial relationship with the Commonwealth. The weird bit was he was actually employed by the State of Victoria. Up till then ,it was thought only commonwealth employees had to resign before contesting.
          The Court seems to take a long bow on the financial connection, looking beyond who is actually getting the payment.
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_44_of_the_Constitution_of_Australia#Sykes_v_Cleary_(1992)

          • Exkiwiforces 4.1.2.1.1

            The courts here are very strict IRT to the constitution, as there is some stories coming out from WA IRT to the current leader of the WA Liberal leader a chap named Nahan who was born in the US and has a unpaid US tax bill I believe, hence why I didn’t think Julie will run the top job atm.

            • dukeofurl 4.1.2.1.1.1

              State parliament’s are not affected by the federal constitution rules for federal parliament only

              • Exkiwiforces

                Might be why that story has gone quite then and thank you for that wee bit of the constitution which I didn’t know about.

    • dukeofurl 4.2

      Interesting that he wants ‘the signed letter’ in his hand.
      In one of the Rudd -Gillard scraps there was supposed to be a similar ‘letter’ but it never turned up.

      I thought this part was interesting:
      ‘”[If a spill motion] is carried and there is a new leader of the Liberal Party, that person will have to obviously satisfy the Governor-General that they can command a majority on the floor of the House of Representatives,”

      So its counted as a new government not just a quick change of the name of the PM.

      I think Turnbull is threatening that in a coalition that has a 1 seat majority they might
      be a teensy – weensy bit short. That the GG might not accept say Dutton as PM and maybe , in delicious irony, offer the job to Shorten as caretaker while a new election is called toute suite.
      Maybe the Shorten part is unlikely, but a snap election is looking more likely

      • RedLogix 4.2.1

        Agreed. Turnbull is playing this as well as he can with the crap cards he’s been dealt. Almost feel a bit sorry for him.

        I think it’s clear that Turnbull is not going to sit on the backbench and he will likely resign Parliament as a matter of personal principle. He’s got no stomach to even loosely associate himself with the path Abbott has taken.

        But yes, demanding to see the letter is a smart move, while at the same time putting some pressure on via the Section 44c question. He may survive yet, or at least last long enough to see a more orderly transition to Morrison take place.

        In the end I suspect a lot of Australians will be sorry to see Turnbull pushed out like this, and the Liberal Party is in for a huge spanking come an election. Which given the Liberals seem fatally split and dysfunctional, looks increasingly necessary. If for no other reason that to avoid proroguing Parliament until sometime next year.

        Next crux looks like a caucus meeting tomorrow midday.

      • Exkiwiforces 4.2.2

        This is classic old Mal the inner lawyer coming out of him, which made him famous during the Spy Catcher Court case where he took on Brits and won.

        Yes it will be sad to see him go, but he is going out swinging as a good Aussie battler does when the chips are down. Some say Mal is toosmart for the Liberal Party when you look at some of the knuckle daggers in the Libs and he even a lot smarter than Shiffy Shorten if it wasn’t for the white anting by right wing of the Libs.

  5. dukeofurl 6

    Doesnt look like they are confident with a new leader that they can win a vote of confidence, so going to proroge parliament to avoid that happening.

    Do they even realise the hiding they are going to get at an election now, which ‘must’ be held by mid may next year. Doesnt sound like they can last till Xmas

  6. McFlock 7

    Please can we honour Dutton with a special and unrenouncable citizenship of NZ for one year?

    • dukeofurl 7.1

      That wont work.
      However his family company may be at risk for in receipt of money from the Commonwealth for childcare.
      A year or so back one Senator was removed because he owned an office building but then sold it to a business associate ,but loaned the money for that deal and that same building was leasing electorate office space for the Senator. It wasnt a direct ownership but you can see they did a deal to try and get around the rules but the court found the loan still meant a financial relationship existed.

      • McFlock 7.1.1

        lol why not?

        Worked on Joyce.

        • dukeofurl 7.1.1.1

          he had citizenship by descent from natural means. That sort of instant citizenship gambit was raised back then and was rubbished then.

          • McFlock 7.1.1.1.1

            Mostly on the grounds that it would be quite obvious interference in the Aussie electoral system – not that it wouldn’t work.

            And if Dutton takes command, I’m not sure our ANZAC relationship would be any worse.

            • dukeofurl 7.1.1.1.1.1

              No the high court rulings have excluded such artificial methods of being a citizen of a a foreign power. It has to be a ‘normal’ mthod of gaining citizenship. What you have described is abnormal

    • mickysavage 7.2

      Please can we honour Dutton with a special and unrenouncable citizenship of NZ for one year?

      How about refugee status 😀

  7. SPC 8

    There appears to be a curse on those in the office of PM of Australia, and as they bear responsibility for the treatment of New Zealanders in Oz there is a form of natural justice in play.

    It speaks to how Australians treat other people and following on from this, how they treat each other.

    The lack of civility and decency becomes a downward spiral. Or is that upward spiral, leading to the very top of their government.

    • RedLogix 8.1

      Yeah the karma is kinda appealing.

      But the cause is plain enough, extremists on both sides playing hyper-partisanship games over both illegal immigration and climate change. That’s the real lesson we should all take-away from this.

  8. Carolyn_Nth 9

    All NZ news media are now headlining that Bishop is going to run:

    Also being headlined in Aus media:

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/liberal-leadership-crisis-dutton-forces-intensify-push-for-second-challenge-20180823-p4zz66.html

    • Ad 10.1

      I’d replace Mal Turnbull with Mal Meninga

      • AB 10.1.1

        Yep- but OTOH, unlike Goldman Sachs, the Canberra Raiders are not a criminal organisation. (Well probably not, maybe, er…)
        Certainly however, Peter (creep me out) Dutton wouldn’t mess with Mal M.

  9. Anne 11

    Hold on to your hat:

    Aussie may be about to have their second female Prime Minister?

    Bet she won’t have to cope with the crap the first female PM was forced to endure.

    I wonder if Jacinda and Julie will get along? They ain’t peas in a pod that’s for sure. 🙂

  10. Muttonbird 12

    What the fudge is wrong with Australians? Whinging racist backstabbers to a man. Hard to believe they are our mates. I don’t want anything to do with them myself.

    • Draco T Bastard 12.1

      I don’t want anything to do with them myself.

      They continually prove that they don’t want anything to do with us so why do we as a nation hold on to the idea that they’re our mates.

      • RedLogix 12.1.1

        So much for caring and inclusive then.

        The crazy making circus we are witnessing (and trust me most Australians find it equally batshit nuts) is the consequence of knuckledragging extremists at both ends of the political spectrum blocking any sane compromises on both immigration and climate change for over a decade.

        Ultimately a lot of blame has to be levelled at the Australian Greens who obdurately blocked Kevin Rudds first carbon pricing/taxation scheme over a decade ago. It’s been pretty much downhill ever since.

        • Anne 12.1.1.1

          It has always been my belief that the extremists at both ends of the political spectrum play an important role in a democratic society. They have the tendency to eventually isolate themselves far from the main body of opinion and we inevitably end up with what most people want… a moderate and relatively sane government be they a tad to the left or the right. It plays out at national and international levels.

          Look at Trump. There’s a way to go yet, but he is becoming increasingly isolated from the main body of voter opinion.

          • RedLogix 12.1.1.1.1

            Yeah I get that. Extreme views are not always wrong, but it can take time to sort out the good ideas from the mass of bad ones.

            There is also a more pragmatic reason in favour of a moderate position. If say Labour want to find another 10 -15% more votes; are there more potential voters to the radically to left of them, or moderately just to the right?

            I know that doesn’t give a satisfying answer to most of the politically engaged activists here. Don’t shoot me because normal distribution.

            • KJT 12.1.1.1.1.1

              80% are known to prefer more socialist solutions than Labours.

              Which is why both Labour and National pretend to be more socialist and caring, in election year.

              The problem is Labour echos the right wing framing. Instead of showing it for the rubbish it is.

        • Draco T Bastard 12.1.1.2

          The crazy making circus we are witnessing (and trust me most Australians find it equally batshit nuts) is the consequence of knuckledragging extremists at both ends of the political spectrum blocking any sane compromises on both immigration and climate change for over a decade.

          Is it the extremists or the hierarchy?

          Ultimately a lot of blame has to be levelled at the Australian Greens who obdurately blocked Kevin Rudds first carbon pricing/taxation scheme over a decade ago.

          Citation needed for cause and effect.

          And, finally, WTF has this got to do with Australian policies that fuck over NZers and NZ?

          • RedLogix 12.1.1.2.1

            If MP’s from all sides of the House and Senate were free to vote as they wished, passing sane and moderate legislation on contentious issues would be easily passed by a majority of members.

            The problem is that hyper-partisan politics has derailed the old conventions, the idea of agreeing to disagree, setting aside differences and working towards the common national interest has been killed off.

            And now we are seeing a relatively small minority on extremist members, aided and abetted by an activist media, holding centrist policies and Prime Ministers to ransom. Repeatedly.

            As for policies that fuck over kiwis. Well yes, the political dysfunction has enabled execrable pollies like Button brain to do their worst, but ultimately NZ only has itself to blame for taking the relationship with Australia for granted. If we really wanted to retain freedom of movement and equal rights on both sides of the Tasman we should have been a lot more proactive in getting the terms written down long before Howard took a knife to them … and we should have not have pretended we could run an independent immigration policy while retaining an open border with Australia. The two ideas were never compatible.

            • Draco T Bastard 12.1.1.2.1.1

              If MP’s from all sides of the House and Senate were free to vote as they wished, passing sane and moderate legislation on contentious issues would be easily passed by a majority of members.

              Bollocks.

              The US actually has that system you know. Their party’s are not whipped to vote the same way.

              The problem is that hyper-partisan politics has derailed the old conventions, the idea of agreeing to disagree, setting aside differences and working towards the common national interest has been killed off.

              Although true that’s not, strictly speaking, the problem.

              The problem is that the policies that the parties and their members put forward and support are based upon ideology and often ignore facts.

              And now we are seeing a relatively small minority on extremist members, aided and abetted by an activist media, holding centrist policies and Prime Ministers to ransom.

              This assumes that centrist policies are viable and simply should go through.

              Yeah, no.

              If we really wanted to retain freedom of movement and equal rights on both sides of the Tasman we should have been a lot more proactive in getting the terms written down long before Howard took a knife to them … and we should have not have pretended we could run an independent immigration policy while retaining an open border with Australia. The two ideas were never compatible.

              Now that I can agree with.

              Of course, I don’t believe in open borders anyway.

          • Ad 12.1.1.2.2

            Plenty of literature on how the Greens fucked over Labor on the carbon tax in 2009. Naturally, the Greens argued that it didn’t go far enough. To kill the bill they sided with Tony Abbott and the Opposition.

            In that 2009 Senate vote, two Liberals crossed the floor and voted with Labor. Meaning the scheme could have narrowly passed if the Greens were on board.

            So if the Greens want to look like they can responsibily be in a government and enact actual policy, this is it right now.

            Now would be a great time for the Greens to unite with Labor toward the policy area that is right now wrecking yet another Australian Federal government: climate change.

            Because of course, it’s Australian climate policy that really fucks New Zealand over big time.

            • Draco T Bastard 12.1.1.2.2.1

              Thanks.

            • Exkiwiforces 12.1.1.2.2.2

              It was the dumbest move the Greens have ever made in a long time and I agree Australia won’t be in this mess atm and it has put Australia back by 10yrs in terms green power investment, technology, industry and manufacturing. When you consider all the rare earths, base metals in the ground here in Oz and they could’ve been world leader in this.

        • Muttonbird 12.1.1.3

          This is Greens’ fault? What planet are you living on?

          • RedLogix 12.1.1.3.1

            The same one Ad describes above, the one where in 2009 refused to support Rudds carbon tax (now widely regarded as a huge missed opportunity) because ‘it wasn’t good enough’.

            Well of course it wasn’t good enough, but it was achievable and would have been an initial step in the correct direction. Once accepted and entrenched it could have been improved on latter. But nope … Rudd’s signature policy was scuttled and this triggered the succession of leadership instability ever since. It hugely damaged the ALP and they still languish with that stigma, and most certainly it would not have handed Abbott all the ammunition he used to win the 2013 election.

            It could have been all so different.

            • RedLogix 12.1.1.3.1.1

              Just to correct the obvious omission:

              … “the one where in 2009 the Greens refused ” …

    • Exkiwiforces 12.2

      It’s the inner Australian Royalty (convict) in them coming out atm which I have convict from my Australia Grandmother side which is Irish which explains my Spanish looks along few other traits and we Red Coat on the other side.

      • RedLogix 12.2.1

        Only the toughest survived those very early days. We easily forget just what a brute and difficult life it was in Australia until almost the 60’s. The harsh climate, dangerous wildlife, poor transport, huge distances and small isolated communities could be pretty rough places to live. Especially for many women.

        And the cities were no better, an entrenched drinking culture, ready resort to fists, a fairly corrupt and brutal police force, combined with deeply conservative religious divisions and class snobbery was not pretty at all.

        And not forgetting the appalling position of the Aboriginal people.

        Yet the remarkable thing is that since roughly the time of Goff Whitlam (increasingly recognised as a transformative figure) the nation has changed very much for the better. There is still plenty to criticise if you look, and that tough convict legacy still shows its ugly head from time to time, but overall progress in the past 40 – 50 years has been extraordinary. I rate Australia as one of the two best countries in the world to live in. (The other being Canada.)

        • Muttonbird 12.2.1.1

          I rate Australia as one of the two best countries in the world to live in. (The other being Canada.)

          If you ignore the treatment of indigenous people in those two countries. Or perhaps that is a requirement on your rating system?

          • RedLogix 12.2.1.1.1

            If you want to make that your primary criterion then feel free to do so. The position and treatment of the indigenous peoples is certainly an important aspect of the story (and no I didn’t ignore it, my third para speaks directly to it) … but it would take a special kind of selectivity to make it the whole narrative.

            I spent a fair period of time working in the Canadian Arctic in 2016/7. Not many people, even Canadians get to visit Nunavut, the homeland of the Innuit peoples. Formed around 2000 its a state bigger than Western Europe with a population of around 34,000 across 17 settlements. I got to spend a week at Christmas in Cambridge Bay which is the administrative centre and the seat of their independent government.

            It was a challenging week. Absolutely in that short time I could only gather the most superficial of impressions and I’ve refrained from writing about it until now. There are a lot of obvious problems, the cultural dilution of television being one of the worst, closely followed by alcohol and the loss of talented young people to the south. But equally there is are plenty of optimistic signs and reasons to think these people will grasp and wrestle successfully their own destiny in years to come.

            As I type this I can look over at the inukshuk that was made for me, sitting rather spookily on my desk shelf. I’ve not a lot more to say, much of my time was spent resting, eating and listening to conversations in a very exotic location I never imagined in a million years I have the privilege to visit.

            • Muttonbird 12.2.1.1.1.1

              Thanks for your holiday journal but your third para about the plight of indigenous people in Australia 60 years ago was an afterthought rather than ‘speaking directly’.

              And has anything really changed for them the way you claim Australia has been transformed post Gough Whitlam?

              Relatively, I think not.

              I get a lot of stick for my position on the embedded racism indicated in centrist and mainstream Australia. The casual stuff they seem to produce and accept every single day.

              I don’t buy the claims that they are ‘working on it’. They’ve had enough time on this. I think they are quite happy ignoring it quite frankly, and to your suggestion that the extremes in Australia are the problem I’d also call bullshit. Because in the case of Aboriginal Australia, it has always been the centre doing the real damage.

              • RedLogix

                Well you accused me of ‘ignoring the plight of indigenous peoples’ even though that was not what I was addressing. Still I responded in good faith. Clearly you aren’t willing to reciprocate. Good night.

                • Muttonbird

                  Aussies (like yourself) never address the plight of indigenous people.

                  That’s the problem.

                  • RedLogix

                    Last I looked my passport still had New Zealand on the cover (so your snide dig in brackets is utterly wrong). And I’m not obliged to pretend I know anything more about how to solve the issue that you or pretty much anyone else does.

                    Ultimately it’s the Aboriginal people themselves who are the only people who can know what they want for themselves and I’m not inclined to try and speak for a people I barely know.

                    • Muttonbird

                      Fascinating. First you claim the current leadership crisis in the Aussie parliament is the fault of the Greens, and now you say the ball is the court of the Aboriginals.

                      Somehow they are in charge of their destiny?

                      I’d say you don’t have a clue but then you just display the same benighted position that mainstream Australia does. That the ‘Aboriginal problem’ is impossible to solve.

                      Australia seems so bewildered by this and paralysed by the guilt of the past.

                • Muttonbird

                  And if ‘responding in good faith’ means regaling the events from your last bus-tour in Canada then I’d hate to be a tenant of yours.

                  • RedLogix

                    You accused me of being unaware of the plight of indigenous peoples, and I responded with a small snapshot from an eight month period working in that area. If you knew anything at all about Cambridge Bay you would know that no-one gets there by bus trip. Its actually about a 4 hour flight north of Edmonton (itself well north) and you pretty much only get to stay there by invitation and arrangement with some locals.

                    But none of that is pertinent to what you are doing here, and I’m not participating any more.

        • Exkiwiforces 12.2.1.2

          Yeah, dad comes from Broken Hill and before that a little place called Condobolin when was he born in house with a dirt floor in the early 50’s. Broken Hill was a very tough and rough place in 50’ to 70’s to grow up in, let alone work and I’m only starting understand what dad went through. hell even my Australian grandfather because he an out of towner working in the Zinc Corporation Mine could be re-trench anytime as he carried a white or green card as he wasn’t from the Hill where as dad couldn’t be re- trench until the week- mth- yr he started at the Broken Hill Con Ltd Mine.

          • RedLogix 12.2.1.2.1

            Heh … my first big project here in Aus was at Nymagee about 50k north of Condobolin. Exactly the kind of place I had in mind when I wrote above. Unless you’ve lived there a while most kiwis have no idea just how hostile and different that sort of country is.

            Our best night at the Nymagee pub was when one disgruntled patron ( rock monkey of course) came back into the bar revving a running chainsaw. The bar manager whips out a shotgun and unloaded it through the roof. The deafening silence is the main thing I remember.

            • Exkiwiforces 12.2.1.2.1.1

              There are still some rough towns/ pubs around especially in the far outback where the pub is a one stop place and the nearest cop or services is half day or days drive to.

              We once drove to the Hill from Sydney in the mid 80’s and most dangerous place we stop out was Wilcannia and even dad was a wee bit worried as it a Government payday.

  11. Ad 13

    If Bishop gets the PM job she will dismiss Ardern’s refugee immigration sop like a Soprano.

  12. Exkiwiforces 14

    Well I go off to walk the jack and come to find the cougar (couple of chicken stragglers I know from I job I did in MER with her give her that nickname) from the West is now in running. WTF

    Hope she wins and gives the general election the fair crack at the whip against old shifty.

  13. Exkiwiforces 15

    Watch the ABC’s 730 Report tonight and they had two former Lib Party members one Amanda Vanstone and Andrew Hewson and jez did they rip into the Right wing of the Lib Party. Amanda even said a few things about the mad monk while under the
    leadership of old rat eyes Howard and she didn’t how back on her views about the mad monk even poor old Hewson couldn’t get a word as she went of a run away .50 cal HMG or belt fed 40mm AGL.

    Both of them want Buttons to win the leadership spill if does happen (from the sounds of it they stuck on 40 names atm), so the public can kick the Liberal Party where it hurts and force the right of the party to wake up to itself this is not the 1950’s or the 60’s but the 21st century and the people want to see action CC.

  14. Jackel 16

    I believe it’s a case of Australians not knowing how to spell, especially the word politic(s), possibly due to their nasal twang.

  15. millsy 17

    A key takeaway from all this is that the government doesn’t control Australia. The bankers do. As well as the miners. And Murdoch.

  16. Exkiwiforces 18

    Old Buttons has got the ok from the Solicitor General and now we wait for the 43 names on the petition.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-24/dutton-legal-advice-clears-path-for-pm-bid/10159702

  17. CHCOff 19

    As long as the political elite are in a state of constant jockeying for ‘influence’ and deals over one another, the more does the expansionist dragon claim as it’s own?

    Rocket science to any neo-liberal rorter worth his or her salt no doubt.

    “Former Trade Minister Andrew Robb walked out of the Cabinet and Parliament after negotiating the China-Australia Free Trade Agreement and into a $880,000-a-year job with a Chinese billionaire who has a 99-year-lease on the Port of Darwin. ”

    I don’t agree with the author’s association to lobbying by the way but what is described may have some relevance to the situation:

    https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/jamming-the-revolving-door-we-need-to-curb-rent-seekers-and-lobbyists,10892

  18. Dennis Frank 20

    Liberals meeting in ten minutes, watch ABC live here: http://www.abc.net.au/news/newschannel/

  19. Dennis Frank 21

    Julie Bishop eliminated in first ballot. Turnbull not yet resigned from parliament.

  20. Dennis Frank 22

    Scott Morrison elected Liberal Leader & Oz PM! 45-40, Dutton got the numbers wrong. Maybe set up by a few centrists…

  21. Timeforacupoftea 23

    Haaaa
    I heard on radio live tonight that Morrison is a Maori.

    Australia beats New Zealand to have a Maori Prime Minister to lead a country !

    Oh well we are very used to being beaten by Australia in every thing.

Recent Comments

Recent Posts

  • Joint Statement: New Zealand and Australian Trade Ministers
    Hon Damien O'Connor MP, New Zealand Minister for Trade and Export Growth, and Hon Dan Tehan MP, Australian Minister for Trade, Tourism and Investment, met virtually on Monday 20 September to advance trans-Tasman cooperation under the Australia-New Zealand Closer Economic Relations Trade Agreement (CER). CER is one of the most ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 hours ago
  • Prime Minister’s Post Cabinet Press Conference/COVID-19 Update opening statement
    ***Please check against delivery***   E te tī, e te tā, nau mai rā [To all, I bid you welcome]   As you will have seen earlier, today there are 22 new community cases to report; three of which are in Whakatiwai in the Hauraki area, and the remainder in ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 hours ago
  • Major milestones for Māori COVID-19 vaccine rollout as new campaign launches
    Whānau Ora and Associate Health (Māori Health) Minister Peeni Henare acknowledges two major milestones in the rollout of the COVID-19 vaccination programme for Māori. “I am very pleased to announce more than 50 percent of eligible Māori have received their first dose and 25 per cent are now fully vaccinated,” ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • Government funding to fight infectious diseases
    $36 million for research into Covid-19 and other infectious diseases The investment will improve our readiness for future pandemics Research will focus on prevention, control, and management of infectious diseases The Government’s investing in a new Infectious Diseases Research Platform to boost Aotearoa New Zealand’s Covid-19 response and preparedness for ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • Quarantine-free travel with Australia to remain suspended for a further 8 weeks
    Suspension to be reviewed again mid to late November Decision brought forward to enable access from Australia to first tranche of around 3000 rooms in MIQ Air New Zealand working at pace to put on more flights from Australia from October    The suspension of quarantine-free travel (QFT) with Australia has ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Extra support for Ethnic Communities to share vaccination information
    Extra support is being made available to Ethnic Communities to help them share COVID-19 vaccination information within their communities, Minister for Diversity, Inclusion and Ethnic Communities Priyanca Radhakrishnan said. “We know we need to get every eligible person in New Zealand vaccinated. A fund being launched today will allow for ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • School holidays remain unchanged for Auckland region
    School holidays in Auckland will continue to be held at the same time as the rest of the country, starting from Saturday, 2 October, Education Minister Chris Hipkins said today. “I’ve carefully considered advice on the implications of shifting the dates and concluded that on balance, maintaining the status quo ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Government continues crackdown on gangs and organised crime
    Operation Tauwhiro extended until March 2022 Since it was launched in February, Operation Tauwhiro has resulted in:   987 firearms seized $4.99 million in cash seized 865 people charged with a firearms-related offence Gangs and organised crime groups will continue to be relentlessly targeted with the extension of Police’s successful ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Speech to Body Positive 'HIV Treatments Update Seminar 2021'
    E ngā mana E ngā reo E ngā iwi Tēnā koutou katoa Ka huri ki ngā mana whenua o te rohe nei. Tēnā koutou. He mihi hoki ki a tatou kua tau mai nei I raro I te kaupapa o te rā. Nō reira tēnā koutou katoa Acknowledgements It’s a ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Power bill changes bring fairness to charges
    A key recommendation of an independent panel to make electricity charges fairer across all households will be put in place, the Energy and Resources Minister Megan Woods has announced. “Phasing out the regulations on ‘low-use’ electricity plans will create a fairer playing field for all New Zealanders and encourage a ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • NZ economy’s strong momentum will support rebound from Delta outbreak; COVID fund replenished
    The economy showed strong momentum in the period leading up to the recent Delta COVID-19 outbreak, which bodes well for a solid economic rebound, Grant Robertson said. GDP rose 2.8 percent in the June quarter, following on from a 1.4 percent increase in the previous March quarter. This was a ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Projects create benefits into the future
    Making a well-known lake swimmable and helping to halt the decline of the endangered hoiho/yellow-eyed penguins are among a suite of new projects being supported by the Government’s Jobs for Nature programme across the southern South Island, Conservation Minister Kiri Allan says. “It’s no secret that many of our most ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Opening statement for Whāriki Indigenous Small Business Roundtable
      Kei ngā tōpito e wha o te āo e rere ana te mihi maioha ki a koutou nō tawhiti, nō tata mai e tāpiri ana ki tēnei taumata kōrero mo te ao hokohoko arā mā ngā pākihi mo ngā iwi taketake Tēnā koutou, tēnā koutou katoa – Pai Mārire.  ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • New members appointed to Kāpuia
    The Government is adding four additional members to Kāpuia, the Ministerial Advisory Group on the Government’s Response to the Royal Commission of Inquiry into the terrorist attack on Christchurch mosques. “I’m looking forward to having Pamela MacNeill, Huia Bramley, Melani Anae and Katherine Dedo  join Kāpuia and contribute to this group’s ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Timeline confirmed for Emissions Reductions Plan
    Cabinet has agreed to begin consulting on the Emissions Reduction Plan in early October and require that the final plan be released by the end of May next year in line with the 2022 Budget, the Minister of Climate Change, James Shaw confirmed today. “Cabinet’s decision allows organisations and communities ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Pay parity pathway for early learning teachers confirmed
    Pay parity conditions and higher funding rates for education and care services will come into force on 1 January, 2022, Minister of Education Chris Hipkins confirmed today. The Government signalled this work in Budget 2021. “From 1 January, 2022, centres opting into the scheme will receive government funding and be ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Speech to the New Zealand Nurses Organisation Conference 2021
    Kia Ora tatau katoa.   Ka tuku mihi ki nga nēhi, He pou Hauora o Aotearoa, E ora ai tatou.   Whakatau mai  I runga i te kaupapa o te ra Te NZNO conference.   Tena koutou tena koutou Tena tatou katoa   Good morning, and thank you inviting me ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Government investment in farmer-led catchment groups sweeps past 150 mark
    171 catchment groups have now been invested in by the Government 31 catchment groups in the Lower North Island are receiving new support More than 5,000 farmers are focussed on restoring freshwater within a generation through involvement in catchment groups  Government investment in on-the-ground efforts by farmers to improve land ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Fight to protect kauri on track
    The Government is pitching in to help vital work to protect nationally significant kauri forests in Auckland, Minister of Conservation Kiri Allan says. “Ensuring the survival of these iconic trees for future generations means doing everything we can to prevent the potential spread of kauri dieback disease,” Kiri Allan said. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Joint statement of Mr Bernard Monk; Hon Andrew Little, Minister Responsible for Pike River Re-entry,...
    [Note: The Parties have agreed on terms to fully and finally settle the proceeding and will jointly issue the below statement.] At the heart of this litigation are the lives of the 29 men tragically lost at the Pike River mine on 19 November 2010 and to whom we pay ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • More financial support for businesses
    Today’s decision to keep Auckland in a higher COVID Alert Level triggers a third round of the Wage Subsidy Scheme which will open for applications at 9am this Friday. “The revenue test period for this payment will be the 14th to the 27th of September. A reminder that this is ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Aotearoa New Zealand provides further humanitarian support for Afghanistan
    Aotearoa New Zealand is providing a further $3 million in humanitarian assistance in Afghanistan, Foreign Minister Nanaia Mahuta announced today.  “There is significant humanitarian need in Afghanistan, with the crisis disproportionately affecting women and girls,” said Nanaia Mahuta. The UN has estimated that 80% of the quarter of a million ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Innovative te reo prediction tool announced in Te Wiki o Te Reo Māori
    A new Māori language prediction tool will play a key role in tracking our te reo Māori revitalisation efforts, Minister for Māori Development Willie Jackson announced today. He Ara Poutama mō te reo Māori (He Ara Poutama) can forecast the number of conversational and fluent speakers of te reo Māori ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Further Government support for people to access food and essential items
    The Government is responding to need for support in Auckland and has committed a further $10 million to help people access ongoing food and other essential items, Minister for Social Development Carmel Sepuloni announced today. This latest tranche is targeted at the Auckland region, helping providers and organisations to distribute ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Half a million Pfizer vaccines from Denmark
    The Government has secured an extra half a million doses of Pfizer COVID-19 vaccines from Denmark that will start arriving in New Zealand within days, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announced today. “This is the second and larger agreement the Government has entered into to purchase additional vaccines to meet the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Inland Revenue providing essential COVID support for businesses
    Inland Revenue is seeing increased demand for Resurgence Support Payments and other assistance schemes that it administers, but is processing applications quickly, Revenue Minister David Parker said today. David Parker said the Resurgence Support Payment, the Small Business Cashflow (loan) Scheme and the Wage Subsidy are available at the same ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • New Zealand marks 20th anniversary of 9/11 attacks
    New Zealand is expressing unity with all victims, families and loved ones affected by the September 11 2001 terrorist attacks, and all terrorist attacks around the world since, including in New Zealand. “Saturday marks twenty years since the 9/11 terrorist attacks in the United States, which killed nearly 3,000 people ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Speech to SPREP Environment Ministers
    Talofa Honourable Ulu of Tokelau Faipule Kelihiano Kalolo Tēnā koutou katoa and warm Pacific greetings from Aotearoa to your excellencies, ladies and gentlemen. The new science released by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change on 8 August paints an alarming picture of the projected impacts of climate change on the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Additional Resurgence Support Payments to support business
    Businesses affected by higher Alert Levels will be able to apply for further Resurgence Support Payments (RSP). “The Government’s RSP was initially intended as a one-off payment to help businesses with their fixed costs, such as rent. Ministers have agreed to provide additional payments to recognise the effects of an ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • More Dawn Raids scholarships announced
    Details of the ‘Manaaki New Zealand Short Term Training Scholarships’, a goodwill gesture that follows the Government’s apology for the Dawn Raids of the 1970s, were released today by Pacific Peoples Minister Aupito William Sio. “These scholarships that are targeted to the Pacific will support the kaupapa of the Dawn Raids’ ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • One-way quarantine-free travel for RSE workers starting in October
      One-way quarantine-free travel for Recognised Seasonal Employer (RSE) workers from Samoa, Tonga and Vanuatu starts in October New requirement for RSE workers to have received their first vaccination pre-departure, undertake Day 0 and Day 5 tests, and complete a self-isolation period of seven days, pending a negative Day 5 ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Govt boosts Pacific suicide prevention support
    Applications have opened for the Pacific Suicide Prevention Community Fund as the Government acts to boost support amid the COVID delta outbreak. “We know strong and connected families and communities are the most important protective factor against suicide and this $900,000 fund will help to support this work,” Health Minister ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Govt parks the expiry of licenses, WoFs and regos
    As a result of the Delta outbreak, driver licences, Warrants of Fitness (WoFs), Certificates of Fitness (CoFs), vehicle licences (‘regos’) and licence endorsements that expired on or after 21 July 2021 will be valid until 30 November 2021, Transport Minister Michael Wood has announced today. “While this extension won’t officially ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • COVID-19 community fund to provide support for vulnerable women and girls
    Minister for Women Jan Tinetti today announced a $2 million community fund that will provide support for women and girls adversely affected by COVID-19. “We know that women, particularly those who are already vulnerable, are disproportionally affected by the kind of economic disruption caused by COVID-19,” Jan Tinetti said. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Next phase of support for Fiji’s COVID-19 response announced
    A further NZ$12 million of support for Fiji’s COVID-19 response has been announced by Foreign Minister Hon Nanaia Mahuta today. The package builds on previous tranches of assistance Aotearoa New Zealand has provided to Fiji, totalling over NZ$50 million. “Fiji remains in a very challenging position in their response to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Robotic asparagus harvester aimed at addressing industry challenges
    The Government is backing a $5 million project to develop a commercial-scale autonomous robotic asparagus harvester, Agriculture Minister Damien O’Connor announced today. The Sustainable Food and Fibre Futures fund (SFF Futures) is contributing $2.6 million to the project. Project partner Robotics Plus Limited (RPL) will build on a prototype asparagus ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Additional Pfizer vaccines to arrive tomorrow
    More than a quarter of a million additional doses of the Pfizer vaccine are on their way from Spain to New Zealand, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announced today. The additional doses will arrive in Auckland on Friday morning to help meet the current surge in demand for vaccination. “It’s been ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Young people to have their voices heard in Youth Parliament 2022
    The dates and details for Youth Parliament 2022 have been announced today by Minister for Youth Priyanca Radhakrishnan, and the Speaker of the House of Representatives. Youth Parliament is an opportunity for 141 young people from across Aotearoa New Zealand to experience the political process and learn how government works. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Boosting support for tertiary students affected by COVID-19
    Students facing a hard time as a result of COVID-19 restrictions will continue to be supported,” Education Minister Chris Hipkins confirmed today. The Government is putting a further $20 million into the Hardship Fund for Learners, which will help around 15,000 students to stay connected to their studies and learning. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • COVID-19: Immediate relief available for Māori and iwi organisations
    The Government has reprioritised up to $5 million to provide immediate relief to vulnerable whānau Māori and communities during the current COVID-19 outbreak Minister for Māori Development Willie Jackson announced today. The COVID-19 2021 Whānau Recovery Fund will support community-driven, local responses to gaps in access and provision of critical ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago