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Warming to Shearer

Written By: - Date published: 10:40 am, May 13th, 2012 - 88 comments
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The recent beat-up over an imaginary challenge to Shearer’s leadership is well and truly behind us. Recent coverage has been quite positive, such as this anonymous editorial from a couple of weeks back:

Editorial: Labour leader shaping up as quiet achiever

They say Leader of the Opposition is the worst job in politics. It requires unceasing, carping criticism of everything the Government does and a relentlessly negative outlook on the country’s condition and prospects under current policies. Somehow this hapless individual is supposed to be popular too.

David Shearer, elected leader of the Labour Party after the last election, has clearly decided this job description is not for him. … Mr Shearer is clearly not a tub-thumping politician. He seems a normal, thoughtful, cautious and fair-minded citizen. The public has seen enough of him to come to that assessment. If he adopts a different manner now it will not ring true. People do not follow leaders who lack the confidence to be themselves.

The country is watching Mr Shearer with more interest than he may know. …

Shearer was chosen to lead Labour largely in the expectation that his real-world experience and well rounded character would be appealing to the electorate. That Shearer would be someone we could identify with. Time will tell, but I think it’s working. Over time the contrast with Key, who is now well and truly just “another bloody politician”, will be more and more pronounced.

Anyway – that blather is all just background excuse really, an excuse to steal this clip from Red Alert. Something different for an idle Sunday morning – David Shearer Unplugged:

88 comments on “Warming to Shearer ”

  1. Anne 1

    It was no coincidence that the two people who offer the most hope to the Labour Party – and indeed the country – were the two who were locked in the leadership battle last December. It was a tough call for most of us and quite distressing in a way. We recognised and applauded the talents of both, but we could only vote for one of them.

    David Shearer and David Cunliffe are different people, but they believe in the same things and in my view nicely compliment one another. Shearer’s strengths are now showing through and his innate ability to relate to people across the board is a huge plus. I know some people have criticised him for that, but I think it is very important. A prime minister who can take a cross-section of NZ society with him all the way is going to to be vital for the future prospects of this country.

    • seeker 1.1

      “It was a tough call for most of us and quite distressing in a way. We recognised and applauded the talents of both, but we could only vote for one of them.

      David Shearer and David Cunliffe are different people, but they believe in the same things and in my view nicely compliment one another.”

      Well said Anne. Distressing it certainly was. And now I’m a little more put out- I love “Classical Gas”,especially unplugged, and it looked like David S.could really deliver, but the clip ended. Blast!

    • CnrJoe 1.2

      he plays the guitar – enough 

      • seeker 1.2.1

        Not so enough, he surfs too! Don’t nag Cnr Joe, it is mum’s day and I’m a mum reminiscing.
        PS love David C. for his mind, knowledge and ability, still waiting to see David S’ mind, so don’t panic. “california dreaming on such a windy day………….”

  2. Te Reo Putake 2

    I might just be buying into a righty meme, but the first bit he plays (around the 20 second mark) sounds a lot like Hesitation Blues to me!

  3. TightyRighty 3

    So stolen board papers showing arguments regarding internal policies about party members are indicative of a nat civil war? But shearer muzzling his finance spokesman from speaking on his portfolio can be ignored because a paper regularly derided by all left commentators on the standard writes an editorial that is at best a back handed compliment and it’s subject can play the guitar. Well kum-by-fucking-yah civil war averted.

    • Tom 3.1

      Have a Bex, a cup of chai, and good lie-down before firing up the grey matter and engaging the motor nerves driving your keyboard.

      “Stolen board papers” ?

      “muzzling his finance spokesman” ?

      “a paper regularly derided by all left commentators on the standard’ ?

      I doubt that it passes the test of common sense.

      R0BINS is probably enjoying your provocation, but we could at least be civil to each other in the last island chain before Antarctica.

      • TightyRighty 3.1.1

        Board papers are hardly likely to be leaked with the recipients name all over them, where was dc on the nation this morning and the herald is frequently referred to as granny, a right wing mouthpiece and other ephitets designed to give the impression that is right leaning. Except when it presents an article that is positive about something the left holds fear, then it’s ok to reference it. How about showing some comprehension ability before just aimlessly quoting me and accusing me of lacking common sense? Another peasant to join cv. Incidentally, is cv robinsod after moving to Auckland? I miss that guy

        • Jackal


          The herald is frequently referred to as granny, a right wing mouthpiece and other ephitets designed to give the impression that is right leaning. Except when it presents an article that is positive about something the left holds fear, then it’s ok to reference it.

          LOL How could you not notice that commentators on The Standard reference articles that are from both sides of the spectrum? There is also the contention that many rightwing bloggers think the NZ Herald is a leftwing mouthpiece… so I guess in that respect they’re getting things about right.

          Personally I would like to see some new talented writers, being that many of the crusty old white contributors such as Paul Holmes, Fran O’sullivan and John Roughan are well past their used by dates and seem more intent on filling word counts instead of having anything pertinent to say.

          Hard left views have no voice at all in the NZ Herald, with most so-called leftwing correspondents always careful to frame their arguments to appeal to a rightwing market. This is in some ways understandable being that our MSM is largely controlled and dictated to by the neo-liberal agenda.

          If Key displayed any musical talent you could bet your bottom dollar he’d be headline news for instance.

          • TightyRighty

            I agree that when both sides accuse a third party of favouring the other, the third party is usually pretty fairly balanced. Hard left views have as little a place in mainstream media as hard right views do. Could that be because it’s mainstream? The idea though that our media is dictated to by those with a neo liberal agenda is pretty laughable. I find those that subscribe to that view also take the view the public have been conned and cant think for themselves. Or that labour not winning is because of some great con job, not because the public can see they aren’t fit to govern. Whether or national are is beside the point, the electorate chose what it viewed as the party that best suited
            It’s idea of what is needed to govern effectively at the moment.

            • Jackal

              You’re either trying to be funny TightyRighty or you’re a bit deluded! While we have articles like this one by Paul Holmes claiming that Waitangi day is “a bullshit day. It’s a day of lies. It is loony Maori fringe self-denial day,” that is obvious race baiting hate speech… and thinking this isn’t racism or part of the hard right agenda is simply ridiculous! Such articles aren’t isolated instances either… so I’m left wondering what planet you’re on?

        • Tom

          cd .. dunno. “granny herald” ? That’s a weak argument, and I’ve never used the term.

          Comprehension ability ? I don’t need to prove anything to you or anyone else.

          Me, a ‘peasant’ ? I think that says more about you than anyone else.

          Finally, I have no idea if cv is robinsod.

          Could you please be more explicit ?

    • Te Reo Putake 3.2

      As I know you are a person of principle, TR, I have no doubt at all that you aren’t making up that claim about ‘muzzling’. Especially so, as you are comparing it to actual physical evidence of a split in the Nat ranks. But others might be more cynical than I, so would you mind putting up your evidence?

      • TightyRighty 3.2.1

        Watch the nation this morning? See David Cunliffe on it? Hear Duncan garner talk about it. He was invited, I would have thought a platform such as that would be a perfect opportunity for labour as a party. Can’t see why shearer would want to forbid his appearance.

        • Te Reo Putake

          “can’t see why Shearer would want to forbid his appearance”
          Me neither, which was I was hoping you had something to back up your statement. But you’ve got nothing, have you?

          • TightyRighty

            Duncan garner talking about it? Much as you hate them both, someone high in labour is leaking to either whaleoil or dpf. They’re both saying how weird it is that dc would be forbidden by senior labour party cabinet members to appear. The commentators on red alert? criticism in cabinet of dc is one things, but preventing public appearances is rather weird. Especially as dc’s speech contained a rather wide range of sensible points that would resonate with the wider voting populace.

            • Te Reo Putake

              Wow! Garner, Farrar and Slater, that’s all the evidence I need, TR. I stand corrected, you are absolutely right, humble apologies for ever doubting that you’d have the facts at your fingertips!

              • TightyRighty

                The problem with your argument is that you are demanding facts on what is essentially an internal command given. No labour mp is going to come out and say “shearer said no to Cunliffe going on tv.” there are enough corroborative sources for what I am saying to make it true. And if the fact the opposition finance spokesperson didn’t appear on a nation wise televised political show even though they were invited to do so isn’t corroboration enough for you then you may as well give up arguing about politics at all with anyone. Your argument is invalid, but keeping sticking your head in the sand and demanding “evidence” because that will make it more valid.

                • Te Reo Putake

                  So, finally, you admit there is no evidence to back up your claim. That wasn’t so hard, was it? Shall we move on?

                  • TightyRighty

                    No, the evidence is their. Not meeting your obviously exacting standards for what constitutes evidence doesnt make the evidence less damning. I don’t see you crying out for evidence when other commentators make statements that fit with your idealogy that are base in corroborate statements. Try be consistent. Jokes, couldn’t expect that from someone who cheerleads for such a hypocritical party.

                    • felix

                      “Not meeting your obviously exacting standards for what constitutes evidence doesnt make the evidence less damning.”

                      And what were those “exacting standards”? Oh yeah, being able to show that any such evidence exists.

                      Jeez VoR, what a taskmaster you are.

                  • TightyRighty

                    How about Chris trotter in this mornings press? Shit, the evidence and proof is piling up. No wonder you’ve run away. Must hurt to get what you demanded in such a comical fashion

                • Hami Shearlie

                  FYI, David Cunliffe is not the finance spokesman – David Parker is! David Cunliffe is the Economic Development spokesman.

              • TightyRighty

                How is Brian edwards for you?

          • Ad

            The problem is when the ‘factoid” from Garner starts, facts afterwards get less material. From there, into the echo chambers of whale oil and kiwiblog, the actual damage – beyond any reality – is done.

            Garner can’t be blamed either – in the piece he claimed pretty authoritative high ranked Labour caucus sources.

            The base fault them is mismanagement within the Leader’s office, with the lesson: turn down Duncan Garner at your peril.

            • Vicky32

              Garner can’t be blamed either – in the piece he claimed pretty authoritative high ranked Labour caucus sources.

              And Garner is known for his truthfulness? 😀 😀 😀 Yeah, right….

          • Vicky32

            Me neither, which was I was hoping you had something to back up your statement. But you’ve got nothing, have you?

            If he has, I’d like to see it, and no, Garner’s word is not enough! He’s hardly the most unbiased or honest commentator…

            • Ad

              Problem with that is that for the MSM, reporters get to define truth pretty closely, unless someone better actually fronts up and redefines truth. What Garner said was the truth … because Labour let him. I would hope Shearer’s office get now that politics abhors a vacuum.

            • TightyRighty

              Brian Edwards? Hardly the biggest cheerleader for the right.

      • Bill 3.2.2

        TRP. A fair few comments about Cunliffe being muzzled here… http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-12052012/comment-page-1/#comment-470796

        I don’t actually care one way or the other (Was he, wasn’t he?). I’m just pointing out the discussion.

        Meanwhile, Labour leader gives us ‘The Blues’? Kind of appropriate, don’t you think? Okay, cheap and easy shot.

        More substantially, in the quoted editorial it is claimed that the job of opposition requires ;

        a relentlessly negative outlook on the country’s condition and prospects under current policies. Somehow this hapless individual is supposed to be popular too.

        Em. What about vision? What about formulating an attractive vision for the future and developing policies that would take ‘the country’ in that direction?

        Hmm. Guess we can’t expect that from a

        normal, thoughtful, cautious and fair-minded citizen.

        And I’m saying that because the implication is that he is a well adjusted individual. And that’s fine…all things being equal. But all things aren’t equal. The systems, instititional structures and behaviours, as well as the social norms he happily exists within as a ‘well rounded individual’ are radically fcked up.

        So if he’s a ‘normal, thoughtful, cautious and fair minded citizen’ he won’t be capable of discerning what it is that is fcked up. And so, with that in mind, he arguably gets mired in a rather pathetic and ineffective ‘lets be civilised and talk about it fairly and reasonably’ mindset when interacting with the current government or economic/social centers of power. And his prescriptions, because they rely on peoples’ mythical inherent reasonableness are only ever going to be ‘wet’ prescriptions for more of the same.

        John Key is a radical, cunning and manipulative bastard who has successfully ridden the wave produced by our radically fcked up socio/economic system(s). He epitomises ‘normal’. Shearer is ‘a nice guy’… someone who ‘has faith in human decency’ and is probably genuinely somewhat aghast at some of the things our socio/economic system throws up….except he cant see the systemic nature of the problem. He only sees people not acting as nicely as they might.

        Or at least, that’s the impression he gives and where his history as aid worker points to. Seems he couldn’t appreciate the systemic root of the problems he sought to alleviate through aid. Or if he did, he kept and continues to keep very, very quiet about it. Seems he thought that bad things happened and simply doing some good things in the midst of those bad things would eventually see everything turning out alright.

        The guy’s a waste of space in the current context where the market, more than a few governments and financiers have gone (for wont of a better term) feral.

        • s y d

          lol bill…after reading your comment the picture in my head….john keys at the top of the cliff throwing ****’s off, shearers at the bottom wringing his hands, asking john to not throw them so HARD…

  4. Ant 4

    I was pretty disappointed in his qualifying of support for gay marriage. It was pretty weak to be honest, how much detail do you really have to see to grant gay couples the same marriage rights as heterosexual couples?

    • Vicky32 4.1

      I was pretty disappointed in his qualifying of support for gay marriage. It was pretty weak to be honest, how much detail do you really have to see to grant gay couples the same marriage rights as heterosexual couples?

      Me, I thought it was reasonable, but then I would, wouldn’t I? Much better than Key and his “me-tooing” Obama! 
      Gayb marriage is a better distraction than bene bashing, at least here… where identity politics trumps sense.

      • felix 4.1.1

        “here… where identity politics trumps sense.”

        Serious question. Do you think it makes “sense” for the state to recognise all consenting adult couples, gay, straight or whatever, as equal at law?

        Note, I refer only to the state and the law, not the church and doctrine.

  5. Shearer is warm
    Tsipras is hot

  6. ianmac 7

    What may mark out to David Shearer’s long term credit, is that he doesn’t sound like a typical politician. Would we prefer the style of a Brownlie, or a Key, or a Joyce?
    No. Much prefer the humanity of Mr Shearer.

  7. BillODrees 8

    All the Labour and Greens peoples I talk to in West Auckland want Shearer and his team to be successful. He deserves time to grow into the job. I don’t believe he squashed David Cunliffe being on television with Ryall. He respects Cunliffe, otherwise he would not have made him the spokesman for Economic Development. Cunliffe is one of his best speakers. I saw him at Blockhouse Bay and he gave the correct type of speech for a Labour spokesperson.

  8. gobsmacked 9

    I might like Shearer as leader. I might not. I’m sure I’d like him a lot as a person, but as Labour leader, I can’t say, because I have no idea why he wanted to (a) join Labour, (b) lead the party or (c) become Prime Minister.

    It would be nice if he could tell us some time (and “to make a difference” isn’t an answer).

    Yes, Key will probably become more unpopular and Shearer (therefore) more popular, but so would Clark or Goff or Cunliffe or Robertson if they were leading the opposition to a government that is screwing its people, including its own voters.

    I hope we can set the bar a bit higher than “not Key”.

    • Blue 9.1

      My impression is that, having been an aid worker for a long time, he wanted to do something else, and thought politics might be the answer. The fact that he is friends with Phil Goff, and Phil no doubt kept asking him to do it, probably sealed the deal.

      I’m not sure how much consideration he gave to whether he is actually suited to politics, or what he thinks he can achieve if he does become Prime Minister.

      • Tom 9.1.1

        Didn’t he work as a parliamentary researcher for Labour .. for Goff ?

        • Anne

          I believe so, but it was well before Goff took over the leadership reigns so he is unlikely to have been directly working for Goff. He also stood as the Labour candidate in Whangarei before he went to work for the UN. Must have been well over 10 years ago now.

          So, he wasn’t exactly a political novice when he returned to NZ and stood in the Mt Albert seat.

  9. Dr Terry 10

    Only time will tell.I worry when I see right wing press talking up Shearer. Sorry, but whoever becomes leader is most unlikely to be God.
    Why must people never bother to consider leadership potential within the Greens?

    • alwyn 10.1

      I suspect that they look at the current Green party leadership and ask.
      My god, if Meteria Turei is the answer what on earth was the question?
      If she is the best the party has got they don’t have any leadership potential to consider.

    • Vicky32 10.2

      Only time will tell.I worry when I see right wing press talking up Shearer

      And that’s never going to happen! I worry that the left (real or faux) is constantly talking him down…

  10. Tom 11

    My problem with Shearer is that he was essentially parachuted into the position, unlike some who have done the hard yards and picked up a few skills, street credibility, and nous. He will always
    have that hanging over him until he proves himself. Learning on the job can be painful for all concerned.

    • alwyn 11.1

      The thing I am most curious about at the moment is how he will handle having to give a speech about the budget immediately after Bill English has presented it and with only the time it takes for English to give the speech in which to prepare.
      From his appearances on the various TV interview programs I think he is going to struggle. He behaves as if he simply hasn’t been around long enough to have mastered the art of presenting a reasonably rational argument off the cuff. Say what you like about Key he did manage that rather well.
      If Shearer runs to form it will come across as a stuttering performance with him looking desperate to come up with anything relevant.
      I think Shearer has been thrown in to the bearpit of a senior opposition role too soon to show up as a plausible leader. In this he is overshadowed by Norman and even by the old roue Winston.

      • Tom 11.1.1

        Agreed. Mind you, much of what I have said above also applied to Key ..

      • Ad 11.1.2

        Ah, but he will be able to play the guitar.

        This ain’t Bill Clinton and his saxophone.

        Just a nice dude with some O.E.

      • felix 11.1.3

        “Say what you like about Key he did manage that rather well.”

        When was that? All I ever saw him produce off the cuff was nasty, bullyish sneering and screeching.

        ps notice how people are starting to talk about Key in the past tense already?

        • alwyn

          I was talking about the speeches he made immediately after Cullen’s budget speeches when Key was Leader of the Opposition. You obviously can’t have listened to them.
          You may not have registered it yet but John Key is the Prime Minister so one obviously talks about his time as Leader of the Opposition in the past tense. That’s the same tense used for Phil Goff’s term and shortly what we will use for David Shearer.

          • felix

            Yeah those were the speeches I was thinking of, don’t remember anything particularly rational about them.

            Maybe I’m misremembering but as it turned out, his supposed financial prowess didn’t amount to much and in the end he left NZ’s economy much worse than he found it.

            (See? There it is again.)

            • alwyn

              Now I understand. When you say “notice how people are starting to …”
              you mean “Look everybody! FELIX is talking about Key …”.

      • Craig Glen Eden 11.1.4

        Sadly Alwyn everything you have said is true, watching Shearer is like watching a train wreck, the only thing thats worse is watching Mallard make an idiot of himself when ever he gets on TV, which he is very good at in my view.

  11. Olwyn 12

    I have not warmed to Shearer, largely for the reasons outlined by Bill and Gobsmacked: there is something either dumb or disingenuous about continuing to be amiable and “reasonable” when the feral aspects of the market are tearing lives apart. And I am deeply suspicious of a non-committal, so-called “centrist” stance in a Labour leader, along with attempts to obscure that non-position with “nice guy” imagery. Key’s cultivated image of transfigured mediocrity seemed designed to dupe the middle class into accepting a right wing agenda. Similarly, I cannot lose the suspicion, exacerbated by the rumour of Cunliffe’s being gagged, that Shearer’s image is designed to reassure the middle class that everything is still OK while the poor etc are abandoned, and BAU continues unabated. Shearer could dispel that fear, which I am sure others share, but he seems determined not to.

    Shearer got the LP leadership against the wishes of most of the members. He is an adult in a job that requires a thick skin. It is up to him to win people’s trust, and not up to them to abandon their critical faculties in salute to his “niceness.”

    I sometimes wish the right wing of the Labour Party would form a break-away group called something like “The People Who Still read the NZ Listener Party.”

  12. captain hook 13

    david shearer will make a very good prime minister as you will see in 2014 if not before if kweewee should happen to spit the dummy.

    • Fortran 13.1

      Yes, David Shearer will make a good Prime minister in 2014, but what will he have to concede to the Greens to get there ?

  13. vto 14

    Too many umms and arrghs and too much humility.

    More straight shooting, more vehemence, more confidence.

  14. bomber 15

    You are kidding right?

    Gagging Cunliffe is the most inane political self mutilation of the year – http://tumeke.blogspot.co.nz/2012/05/gagging-cunliffe-is-most-inane.html

    • Hami Shearlie 15.1

      Totally agree with you Bomber! All of the crazy Nact policies coming out and what are Labour doing? Scrapping with each other about who gets the limelight! We’ve got to ask ourselves, are they worthy of our votes and support? Who are the Caucus really thinking about? Obviously themselves, and their future aspirations, certainly not the lives of the ordinary working people of NZ! And in the meantime, Jonkey is trading once again, not with other peoples’ money this time, but with our country(not his – he won’t be staying to see the devastation he and his mates have caused here). Key’s boss at the moment is Big Business America. What they say goes! After all, most of his personal wealth is tied up in the Bank of America.

  15. The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 16

    I am so confused. I thought the civil war was in National.

  16. Raymond A Francis 17

    And then we get two statements on TV3 with:
    a/ Shearer say the it was Mr Cunclffe’s decision to not appear on the show
    b/ Cuncliffe saying it was a decision by the Labour “top team” not to appear
    Someone is lying or at least being economical with the truth, neither looks good in a government in waiting

    • just saying 17.1

      Someone is lying…..

      Shearer is really catching up with this being a politician thing. He’s on a roll now.

    • Olwyn 17.2

      Not necessarily lying. It could have been Cunliffe’s decision to abide by the top team’s decision. Since you cannot expressly forbid anyone from going on TV, he could always have done otherwise and faced the consequences.

      • OneTrack 17.2.1

        So David Cunliffe was lying when he said it was a decision of the “top team”?

        • Olwyn

          No. Neither were necessarily lying. It may be true that it was a decision of the top team, and also true that Cunliffe could have done otherwise, but thought it prudent no to.

    • What was interesting from TV3’s report tonight that I hadn’t heard before – Labour said they offered David Parker to appear instead because they thought he was a more appropriate spokesperson for the topic.

      But TV3 must have decided Cunliffe or nothing – nothing, that is, apart from their story on Cunliffe suppression, which they must have thought would be more attentioin attracting than Parker.

      I think this puts quite a different complexion on it. Does it show TV3 trying to dictate the narrative?

      • Colonial Viper 17.3.1

        That’s actually a fair question – why didn’t they show Parker?

        • just saying

          I understood the purpose of the item was to discuss Cunliffe’s recent speech. Have I got this wrong? Because if not, getting Parker on to discuss it would be kinda ridiculous. Or maybe interesting in itself…

          • Pete George

            It all started last Tuesday with The Nation approaching Mr Cunliffe to come on the programme.

            On Wednesday Mr Cunliffe says he is interested but says it must stay on economic issues.

            The Nation agrees in writing to that deal.

            Garner also said the same last night – that both him and his producer agreed not to ask anything about the speech and to stick to economic issues.

      • rosy 17.3.2

        Good spotting Pete. That does appear that TV3 is setting it’s own agenda. I wonder why?

      • Pete George 17.3.3

        Here it goes from tonight’s news:

        On Wednesday Mr Cunliffe says he is interested but says it must stay on economic issues.

        The Nation agrees in writing to that deal.

        But Mr Cunliffe says he has to run it by the “Labour’s media and top team”.

        He did and by Thursday last week – they stopped him appearing, saying David Parker was the man to speak to about Budget and economic issues.

        But Mr Cunliffe says it was a team decision and Mr Shearer says it was Cunliffe’s.

        “I consulted – we reached a team decision we offered our finance spokesman to talk about Budget issues it appeared to be a broader interview than economic development,” Mr Cunliffe says.

        “I didn’t stop David Cunliffe appearing it was his own decision,” Mr Shearer says.


        TV3 kept running their The Nation promotion, stopping Cunliffe appearing and different interpretations on who made the decision, Cunliffe or the Top Team.

        And nothing about why TV3 wouldn’t take Parker for the interview.

        • rosy

          Garner’s conclusion about leadership aspirations is spin. My spin from that clip would be that if it’s about the economy the Finance Spokesperson fronts, if it’s about economic development the Economic Development spokesperson fronts.

          Badly handled though.
          (and I do wonder how real Cunliffe’s ‘Real Labour’ might become if this stuff continues)

      • Socialist Paddy 17.3.4

        Geez I watched the clip and I got the really strong impression that one of them was telling the truth and one of them was spinning it.

        But Shearer I thought you were going to be different, a politician who was not a politician and not going to lie for advantage. Do you really expect us to believe that Cunliffe refused to front? If he is such an aggressive focused and driven careerist do you really expect us to believe that he would have given up a major TV slot? 

  17. Adele 18

    I had the misguided idea to comment on Red Alert (Shearer Unplugged). I am not impressed with the level of debate in that forum. Admittedly, I may be biased by the interactions I have here, at the Standard.

    I couldn’t even be bothered flourishing a parting sarcasm. A wasted effort on the mind numbingly dull. The emphasis of Red Alert is not to discuss or debate important issues in a frank and open manner concerning Labour. No, its purpose is to soft sell Labour and Shearer.

    He’s inarticulate but that’s okay because he can play the guitar! How fucking twee is this party – very.

    • Jim Nald 18.1

      You are not alone, Adele.
      If I were you, I would not bother with RA these days.

      Btw, after Annette King posted that stunningly wonderful Shearer guitar thingy, I posted the following which was awaiting moderation … and has not appeared … guess the comment got ‘moderated’ off:

      Jim Nald says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
      May 12, 2012 at 5:23 pm

      I am not sure why I visit this site these days.

      Oh well, better things to do and off to Youtube next.

  18. BillODrees 19

    Giving speeches in the Electorate to any size audience is one of the basic tasks any and every MP should fulfill.
    Giving speeches that cause for many people to think, debate, argue and slag is what every MP dreams about.
    I find it incomprehensible that a Labour front-bencher would be barred from making speeches in his or her electorate. Something is wrong at the top of the party. Is it to do with the staff changes? Is it to do with Grant Robertson’s ambitions?

  19. Anne 20

    Where does David Parker fit in to this jigsaw? Did he have a fit of pique when he learnt David Cunliffe had been invited on to the programme and not him? Did anyone in the ‘top team’ make any effort to find out TV3’s reason for approaching Cunliffe before hitting the ‘stop’ button?

    I am not impressed with the handling of this matter!

  20. Olwyn 21

    Sorry, his answer is from TV3’s perspective, not the Labour Party’s. I read your post too quickly.

    • Anne 21.1

      Thanks for the pointer to Brian Edwards Olwyn. Will read it later.

      Jim Mora’s Panel discussion at 4pm is with Brian Edwards and Milchelle Boag today.

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    I pānuitia i te rangi nei e te Minita mō ngā Whiriwhiringa Tiriti o Waitangi, e Andrew Little, kua tāmokohia tētahi Whakaaetanga Whakataunga i waenga i te Karauna me Ngāti Rangitihi, e whakatau ana i ngā kerēme hītori Tiriti o Waitangi a taua iwi. Ko Ngāti Rangitihi tētahi o ngā ...
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    23 hours ago
  • World Soil Day: valuing our soils key to a better world
    Agriculture Minister Damien O’Connor has marked World Soil Day (5 December) with a $6.25 million investment in mapping New Zealand’s most valuable soils which are vital to our economic, environmental and social wellbeing. “The more we know about our natural resources, including soils, the better we can make good sustainable ...
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    1 day ago
  • Government receives interim report from the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Historical Abuse
    The Government has received an interim report from the Royal Commission into Historical Abuse in State Care and in the Care of Faith-Based Institutions. The terms of reference for the Royal Commission required a progress report on the inquiry‘s work to date to be delivered to the Government by the ...
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    2 days ago
  • Minister of Foreign Affairs announces diplomatic appointments to Malaysia and Austria
    Foreign Minister Hon Nanaia Mahuta has announced Pam Dunn as New Zealand’s next High Commissioner to Malaysia and Brian Hewson as New Zealand’s next Ambassador to Austria and UN Permanent Representative, Vienna. Malaysia “New Zealand and Malaysia enjoy a warm bilateral relationship. We have had diplomatic relations for more than 60 years, ...
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    2 days ago
  • Intention to appoint a Commission for Tauranga City Council
    Minister of Local Government, Hon Nanaia Mahuta, has confirmed the Tauranga City Council has been advised of her intention to appoint a Commission in response to significant governance problems among the Council’s elected representatives and the findings of an independent review. “I have been closely watching the conduct of the ...
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    2 days ago
  • Pacific Health Scholarships 2021 about improving access to healthcare for Pacific communities
    Associate Minister of Health, Aupito William Sio is calling on any Pacific students studying health or disability-related courses to apply now for a Ministry of Health Pacific Health Scholarship. “These scholarships acknowledge the vital role Pacific people play in our health workforce. This was most visible through our Pacific workforce's ...
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    2 days ago
  • Speech to Auckland Trade and Economic Policy School
    CHECK AGAINST DELIVERY   Thank you for the opportunity to speak today. I want to recognise the hard work of the University of Auckland’s Public Policy Institute in putting on this event. Bringing together internationally recognised leaders and thinkers on trade and economic policy, with exporters, business leaders, diplomats, economists, ...
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    2 days ago
  • NCEA Level 1 changes give students a broader foundation
    The Government is making changes to NCEA Level 1 to ensure it remains a strong, credible qualification that supports young people into employment and further education, Education Minister Chris Hipkins said today. “Last term, the Government initiated a wide-scale review of the National Certificates of Educational Achievement (NCEA), involving consultation ...
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    3 days ago
  • Crown accounts reflect positive economic trend
    The Government’s books were again better than expected as the economy continued to recover post COVID lockdown, the Finance Minister Grant Robertson says. The Crown Accounts for the four months to the end of October were far more favourable than what was forecast in the Pre-election Economic and Fiscal Update ...
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    3 days ago
  • Increase to supplier diversity through new procurement target for Maori Business
    Māori enterprises are in line for greater opportunities to do business with government agencies under an initiative to spread the benefits of the economic recovery.  The Ministers for Māori Development and Economic and Regional Development have announced a new target to encourage public service agencies to cast the net ...
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    4 days ago
  • Climate emergency declaration will be matched with long-term action
    Today’s climate emergency declaration will be backed with ambitious plans to reduce emissions, the Minister for Climate Change, James Shaw today. “Our Government has put New Zealand at the forefront of climate action over the last three years. Declaring a climate emergency and backing this with long-term action to reduce ...
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    4 days ago
  • Celebrating the success of Prime Minister’s Oranga Tamariki Award winners
    28 young achievers who have been in the care of Oranga Tamariki or involved with the youth justice system have received Oranga Tamariki Prime Minister Awards in recognition of their success and potential, Children’s Minister Kelvin Davis announced today. At the awards ceremony in Parliament, Kelvin Davis congratulated the rangatahi ...
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    4 days ago
  • Public sector to be carbon neutral by 2025
    Public sector to be carbon neutral by 2025 Immediate focus on phasing out largest and most active coal boilers Government agencies required to purchase electric vehicles and reduce the size of their car fleet Green standard required for public sector buildings The Government has launched a major new initiative to ...
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    4 days ago
  • Government fulfils election undertaking on new top tax rate
    The Government will today keep its election promise to put in place a new top tax rate of 39 per cent on income earned over $180,000. “This will only affect the top two per cent of earners. It is a balanced measure that is about sharing the load so everyone ...
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    4 days ago
  • Sir Robert Martin re-elected to UN Committee
    New Zealand welcomes the news that Sir Robert Martin has been re-elected to the Committee on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities, says Foreign Minister Nanaia Mahuta and Minister for Disability Issues Carmel Sepuloni. “Sir Robert has been a lifetime advocate for persons with disabilities and his experience brings a ...
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    4 days ago
  • New rules to protect Kiwis from unaffordable loans
    The Government is making sure all consumers who borrow money get the same protections, regardless of where they get their loans.   “Building on the work to crack down on loan sharks last year, we’re now making the rules clearer for all lenders to help protect borrowers from unaffordable loans” ...
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    4 days ago
  • New visitor attraction to boost tourism
    The opening of the first major new tourism attraction since the global outbreak of COVID-19 closed borders to international travellers will provide a welcome boost to visitor numbers in our largest city, says Tourism Minister Stuart Nash. Mr Nash has this afternoon taken part in the official opening ceremony of ...
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    5 days ago
  • Govt moves on drug checking to keep young New Zealanders safer this summer
    The Government will pass time limited legislation to give legal certainty to drug checking services, so they can carry out their work to keep New Zealanders safer this summer at festivals without fear of prosecution, Health Minister Andrew Little says. Next year the Government will develop and consult on regulations ...
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    5 days ago
  • Public Service Commissioner reappointed
    Minister for the Public Service Chris Hipkins announced today that Public Service Commissioner Peter Hughes CNZM has been reappointed for three years. The Public Service Commissioner is appointed by the Governor-General on the recommendation of the Prime Minister. “Mr Hughes’ reappointment reflects the need for strong leadership and continuity to ...
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    5 days ago
  • Pōwhiri marks the start of a critical year for APEC
    New Zealand kicked off its APEC host year today, with a pōwhiri taking place on Wellington’s waterfront with local iwi Te Atiawa, and a number of Government ministers welcoming representatives from the other 20 APEC economies. “APEC is a hugely important international event, and New Zealand is hosting amidst the ...
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    5 days ago
  • Speech at APEC 21 Opening Pōwhiri
    9am, Tuesday 1 DecemberTe Whare Waka o Pōneke, Wellington Central He Mihi Kei aku rangatira no ngātapito e whā o te ao huri noa, tātou e huihui mai nei. Tēnā rā kōutou katoa. He tangiapakura ki ngā tini aituā kei waenganui i a tātou, ka tangi tonu te ngākau ki ...
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    5 days ago
  • Government extends business debt relief to October 2021
    To assist with the ongoing economic recovery from COVID-19, rules allowing affected businesses to put their debt on hold have been extended by 10 months. “New Zealand’s economy is recovering better than we expected, but the impacts of the pandemic are far-reaching and some businesses need continued support to keep ...
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    5 days ago
  • Bill introduced to support workers with 10 days sick leave
    The Government is delivering on a key commitment by introducing a Bill to Parliament to expand sick leave entitlements from five days to ten days a year, Workplace Relations and Safety Minister Michael Wood announced today. “COVID-19 has shown how important it is to stay at home when people are ...
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    6 days ago
  • Progress on pay equity for DHB staff
    Today’s initial agreement between DHBs and the PSA on pay equity for clerical and administration staff is an important step toward better, fairer pay for this crucial and largely female workforce, Health Minister Andrew Little says. If ratified, the agreement between the Public Service Association and the country’s 20 District ...
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    6 days ago
  • Iconic Milford Track officially reopens
    One of New Zealand’s premier hikes and a cornerstone of the Te Anau community, the Milford Track has officially reopened, “From today, hikers booked on the popular Great Walk will be able to complete the walk end-to-end for the first time since early February,” Minister of Conservation Kiri Allan says. ...
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    6 days ago
  • Support for farmers beefed up ahead of La Niña
    Further funding for feed support services and new animal welfare coordinators will help farmers who continue to feel the effects of an extended drought, says Rural Communities Minister Damien O’Connor. “In March this year, I classified the drought in the North Island, parts of the South Island and the Chathams ...
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    1 week ago
  • Next steps for Christchurch Hospital campus redevelopment
    Canterbury DHB will be better placed to respond to future demand for services and continue to deliver high quality care, with the next stage of the campus redevelopment programme confirmed, Health Minister Andrew Little says. The Government has approved $154 million in funding for the construction of a third tower ...
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    1 week ago
  • Five Power Defence Arrangements Defence Ministers’ Joint Statement
    The Defence Ministers from Australia, Malaysia, New Zealand, Singapore and United Kingdom reaffirmed their nations’ continued commitment to the Five Power Defence Arrangements (FPDA), and commended the achievements over the past 49 years as the FPDA moves towards its 50th Anniversary in 2021.  The Ministers recognised the FPDA’s significant role ...
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    1 week ago
  • Jobs for Nature funding protects health of Hawke’s Bay waterways
    A joint Government and Hawke’s Bay Regional Council project will invest $4.2 million to protect local waterways, enhance biodiversity and employ local people, Environment Minister David Parker announced today.   Over two years, the Hāpara Takatū Jobs for Nature project will fence 195km of private land to exclude stock from vulnerable ...
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    1 week ago
  • New Year border exception for seasonal workers in the horticulture and wine industries
    2000 additional RSE workers to enter New Zealand early next year employers must pay these workers at least $22.10 an hour employers will cover costs of managed isolation for the RSE workers RSE workers will be paid the equivalent of 30 hours work a week while in isolation From January ...
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    1 week ago
  • Government increases support for New Zealanders to work in seasonal jobs
    The Government is offering further financial support for unemployed New Zealanders to take on seasonal work. These new incentives include: Up to $200 per week for accommodation costs $1000 incentive payment for workers who complete jobs of six weeks or longer increasing wet weather payments when people can’t work to ...
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    1 week ago
  • Government receives Royal Commission of Inquiry report into the Terrorist Attack on Christchurch Mos...
    Minister for Internal Affairs Jan Tinetti has today received the Royal Commission of Inquiry report into the Terrorist Attack on Christchurch Mosques, and will table it in Parliament on Tuesday December 8. “I know this will have been a challenging process for whānau, survivors and witnesses of the terrorist attack ...
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    1 week ago
  • New Zealand Government to declare a climate emergency
    The Government will declare a climate emergency next week, Climate Change Minister James Shaw said today.                                       “We are in the midst of a climate crisis that will impact on nearly every ...
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    1 week ago
  • Call for urgent action on Pacific conservation
    A declaration on the urgency of the global biodiversity crisis and the need for immediate, transformative action in the Pacific was agreed at a pan-Pacific conference today. The 10th Pacific Islands Conference on Nature Conservation and Protected Areas is taking place this week across the Pacific.  Minister of Conservation Kiritapu ...
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    1 week ago
  • Speech from the throne
    E aku hoa i te ara o te whai, Kia kotahi tā tātou takahi i te kō, ko tōku whiwhi kei tō koutou tautoko mai. Ko tāku ki a koutou, hei whakapiki manawa mōku. He horomata rangatira te mahi, e rite ai te whiwhinga a te ringatuku, me te ringakape ...
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    1 week ago
  • Keynote address to Chartered Accountants Australia and New Zealand conference
    Speech to the CAANZ conference - November 19, 2020 Thank you, Greg, (Greg Haddon, MC) for the welcome. I’d like to acknowledge John Cuthbertson from CAANZ, the Commissioner of Inland Revenue Naomi Ferguson, former fellow MP and former Minister of Revenue, Peter Dunne, other guest speakers and CAANZ members. I ...
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    2 weeks ago
  • Expert independent advisory group appointed to strengthen the future of Māori broadcasting
    A panel of seven experts are adding their support to help shape the future of Māori broadcasting, Minister for Māori Development Willie Jackson has announced today. “Today I will meet with some of the most experienced Māori broadcasters, commentators and practitioners in the field. They have practical insights on the ...
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    2 weeks ago
  • Government to review housing settings
    New Zealand’s stronger-than-expected economic performance has flowed through to housing demand, so the Government will review housing settings to improve access to the market, the Finance Minister Grant Robertson announced today. “Our focus is on improving access to the housing market for first home buyers and ensuring house price growth ...
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    2 weeks ago
  • Crown accounts reflect Govt’s careful economic management
    The better-than-expected Crown accounts released today show the Government’s careful management of the COVID-19 health crisis was the right approach to support the economy. As expected, the Crown accounts for the year to June 2020 show the operating balance before gains and losses, or OBEGAL, was in deficit. However that ...
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    2 weeks ago
  • Community launch marks next step in addressing racism in education
    The launch of Te Hurihanganui in Porirua today is another important milestone in the work needed to address racism in the education system and improve outcomes for Māori learners and their whānau, Associate Education Minister Kelvin Davis says. Budget 2019 included $42 million over three years to put Te Hurihanganui ...
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    2 weeks ago