What Government crisis?

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1. Brian Tregaskin 1

   19 September 2018 at 5:13 pm

   Its the classic “dead cat” trick
   https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/97215740
   We have seen this movie before.
   • Dukeofurl 1.1

     19 September 2018 at 6:04 pm

     That one was interesting as it was ‘a political opinion piece’ by non gallery general reporter, indicates that no one else would touch it.
     Doesnt seem to have written much this year for Stuff- back room boy for National ?
     • tc 1.1.1

       19 September 2018 at 6:06 pm

       If only we had some standards to label the blatant opinionating as such.
2. Dennis Frank 2

   19 September 2018 at 5:19 pm

   It certainly felt like a crisis looming but I do agree they have nipped it in the bud. Good to see agreement reached on some of the problem areas finally.
   • tc 2.1

     19 September 2018 at 6:08 pm

     There’s always a crises looming when the media’s owners aren’t getting what they want.
3. Muttonbird 3

   19 September 2018 at 5:37 pm

   I bet the press gallery are fuming.
   • mosa 3.1

     19 September 2018 at 6:03 pm

     Lets hope it gets hot enough to burn them.
4. mosa 4

   19 September 2018 at 6:07 pm

   Toba o’Brian is certainly not flavour of the month.
   Jacinda gave her a ” Helen Clark death stare ” at the post cabinet press conference an a swift rebuttal.
   Its time this government put on its boxing gloves and deal some real blows.
   • Brian Tregaskin 4.1

     19 September 2018 at 6:49 pm

     “Tova o’Brian is certainly not flavour of the month.
     Jacinda gave her a ” Helen Clark death stare ” at the post cabinet press conference an a swift rebuttal.
     Its time this government put on its boxing gloves and deal some real blows.”

     I think o’Brian is impartial and does not favour either the left or right. I really rate her.
     • Ffloyd 4.1.1

       19 September 2018 at 6:58 pm

       Brian. You’re kidding RIGHT!!!
       • SpaceMonkey 4.1.1.1

         20 September 2018 at 10:39 am

         I think it’s difficult to say. As someone else on here pointed out a while ago Tova’s a student of Patrick Gower’s gotcha school of political reporting. So she may more interested in looking for the headline oppotunities wherever they come from, rather than being placed anywhere on the political spectrum. That said, it still doesn’t produce a high quality level of journalism, and I still have a clear image in my mind of her harassing Laila Harre re Internet Party/Mana Party on election night in 2014. It was totally over the top in yer face stuff… sad!
5. SPC 5

   19 September 2018 at 6:22 pm

   By July 2020, or from July 2020 to June 2021? There is a significant difference, as the later would require the next government to continue with the policy. That is, it would be part of the next coalition talks.
6. Exkiwiforces 6

   19 September 2018 at 6:29 pm

   What the NZ Government is crisis WTF, only because two bits of policy still being haggle over, it’s more like running over a couple possums after a few ales at the Tapawera pub after a days fishing and hunting the upper reaches of the Mot.

   You want a Government in crisis try the muppets in Oz. Talk about a bloody rock show over here atm.
   • Dennis Frank 6.1

     19 September 2018 at 6:51 pm

     Yeah, I found this: “Prime Minister Scott Morrison has cancelled an upcoming meeting with the states and territories, as he deals with a growing chorus of complaints about bullying and intimidation within the Liberal Party as well as a significant rethink of government policy.” http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-18/coag-cancelled-by-scott-morrison-to-address-bullying-policy/10268486?section=politics

     “The leaks this week have been prolific, distracting and damaging… the former Liberal deputy condemned unacceptable behaviour in Canberra, flatly rejected the `nothing to see here, move on’ line, and delivered a tough message on women. “I say to my party … it is not acceptable for us to have in 2018 less than 25 per cent of our parliamentarians as female. It is not acceptable for our party to contribute to the fall in Australia’s ratings from 15th in the world in terms of female parliamentarian representation in 1999, to 50th today,” Ms Bishop said.
     http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-07/michelle-grattan-scott-morrison-ticks-the-boxes-but-dysfunction/10212090?section=politics
     • Exkiwiforces 6.1.1

       19 September 2018 at 8:58 pm

       The way things are going here atm SCO MO is going to have a minority government after the Wentworth by- election with an independent wining and she is paying good odds atm according to my bookie, as she has hired a Oz Labor numbers man which has upset some in the Labor Party and royally piss off the Libs big time including the Rainbow branch of the Lib Party in she and Christine Abbott (the mad monk sister) are good mates.
   • Prickles 6.2

     19 September 2018 at 8:48 pm

     Agreed – I keep getting messages from friends and former colleagues in Oz asking if they can please have Jacinda – or at least share her.
     • Exkiwiforces 6.2.1

       19 September 2018 at 9:02 pm

       75% of the General pop of Oz are still immature to have either a women pm or a real coalition government and half of them can’t understand why we have MMP or understand it.
       • greywarshark 6.2.1.1

         20 September 2018 at 10:31 am

         Exkiwi
         We both have some with this problem. More in Oz than NZ but we still have people here who can’t see how MMP enriches the dialogue around politics and forces some things to the surface that show up as scum that the powerful would like to be in the shadows.

         Because of the unwillingness to learn, take notice, daily watch and think about how politics works, how society works, how political and government and administration and cultural systems work together or fragmented, we have ended up with the steaming pile of machine-follower and efficiency merchants following private sector interests that we have now.

         The latest here is that the city areas are pushing for on-line voting despite the knowledge that it opens wide the door to manipulation by powerful interests, and now the knowledge that it can be hacked and the warning given today about this very reality in the USA. Don’t want to know is the theme for today wherever it is convenient to take that position.

         20/9/18 – https://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/2018663331/online-voting-for-local-council-elections-crazy-expert

         May 2018-https://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/104203408/auckland-council-pushes-for-online-voting-trial
         • Exkiwiforces 6.2.1.1.1

           20 September 2018 at 10:38 pm

           Sorry for my late reply is was Vet day for our two dogs.

           I have a awful lot of issues IRT to online elections IRT that your vote democratic vote should be private fullstop. That down the track that certain groups could be bared from exercise their democratic right to vote, I notice this is has or is already happening in some places in the states (I must apologise as I’ve lost the link), which is on top what is going on in China atm which is very scary and very 1984.

           I’ve been exposed to some of this technology in the Gan and else while trying to locate of people interest, with a few lads (not my one’s btw) clowning around with this technology who suddenly find themselves in the poo especially one is stateside etc.

           Your paragraph also sums up my view as well and we only to look at what was going on with Cambridge what’s its name which very scary indeed.
7. Ankerrawshark 7

   19 September 2018 at 7:59 pm

   1055 + needs to be the new mantra when these arseholes bring up crap like coalition is crumbling etc. what a crock that is. Feeling angry about the bull shit spin
   • Chuck 7.1

     19 September 2018 at 8:33 pm

     https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/has-cabinet-really-signed-off-on-1055-items/ar-BBNxfVg?ocid=spartanntp

     “In the meantime, let’s call on some close reading skills to better understand Mr Peters’ tweet.”

     Peters is the king of “bullshit spin”
     • adam 7.1.1

       19 September 2018 at 9:05 pm

       Can’t actually discuss anything with you when all you do is emotional slagging.

       So in response to you statement – Yeah, nah.

       It’s just more pitiful angst from you chunk, and quite frankly like your other rwnj buddies, it is getting really tired mate.
       • Chuck 7.1.1.1

         20 September 2018 at 8:17 am

         “Can’t actually discuss anything with you when all you do is emotional slagging.”

         Happy to discuss anything with you adam, however for the “emotional slagging” you need to look in the mirror buddy!
         • adam 7.1.1.1.1

           21 September 2018 at 2:33 am

           Love how dishonest with yourself you are Chunk.
     • Ankerrawshark 7.1.2

       19 September 2018 at 9:18 pm

       What bull shit your talking chuck.

       The journalists got an acknowledgement of the request and confirmation the information will be provided. This doesn’t prove Peters is bullshiting or spinning at all. Surely standard procedure for requests for information
       • Chuck 7.1.2.1

         20 September 2018 at 8:24 am

         Ankerrawshark nothing is standard procedure when dealing with Winston Peters.
         • Kevin 7.1.2.1.1

           20 September 2018 at 1:23 pm

           And yet the right were desperate to be in coalition with him. Go figure…
           • Chuck 7.1.2.1.1.1

             20 September 2018 at 1:39 pm

             Not desperate enough to give Winston what he wanted…that award goes to Labour.
             • Muttonbird …

               20 September 2018 at 1:44 pm

               And isn’t the country doing well because of it?
     • Michelle 7.1.3

       20 September 2018 at 11:42 am

       No disagree with you chucky the king of bullshert spin is johkey not Winny.
       why do you think he quit ?
8. In Vino 8

   19 September 2018 at 10:06 pm

   Chuck chucks pure chunder. He is a long-standing troll, probably working under several different names as well. The language patterns suggest to me that a number of these right-wing trolls are a few different people using a good number of different names. Ignore Chuck.
   • Kat 8.1

     19 September 2018 at 11:37 pm

     Gets hard to ignore when he “chucks” up all over our screens and then for the other cling-on’s BM, James et al to roll around in it.
   • Chuck 8.2

     20 September 2018 at 12:47 pm

     In Vino, you are over thinking things. I am only Chuck or Chucky or Chunk (or any other variation of Chuck the good folk here can dream up).

     “The language patterns suggest to me that a number of these…”

     Man, I thought you had retired from the CIA…
     • In Vino 8.2.1

       20 September 2018 at 4:23 pm

       No, they keep calling me back as a highly-paid consultant.
9. AB 9

   19 September 2018 at 10:55 pm

   National and their media supporters always wanted to believe that the Coalition would disintegrate in acrimony.
   It was the self-consoling myth they constructed to get over the grief of losing the election. So it’s no surprise that it took only the slightest scent of friction in the Coalition to have them ecstatic and shouting “told you so”.
   They are wrong – and they’re also pathetic and childish.

   What’s good though, is that they’ve just cried wolf – and it’s been shown to be complete bollocks. They can’t do it again without becoming a laughing stock. As a certain loony, far-right, narcissistic broadcaster used to say “happy days”.

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