When campaigns go bad

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1. Stephen D 1

   8 October 2020 at 7:54 am

   It’s beginning to look like Judith is having to run this campaign by herself. Discussing policy, organising walkabouts, 2 hours with Hosking.
   Have the rest of the National Campaign team decided enough was enough, and have walked away completely to distance themselves from the oncoming disaster of a 20 something result?
   • I Feel Love 1.1

     8 October 2020 at 8:01 am

     My impression too, she seems very alone.

     Also, "dumb dumb dumb".
2. Robert Guyton 2

   8 October 2020 at 8:01 am

   The Civilian makes merry with the situation:

   " The unveiling of the stunt by television news this evening has prompted a hurried removal of all future planted supporters, of which there are said to be hundreds.

   1 News spoke with a woman this evening who has been glued to the pavement in Anzac Square, just outside the Dunedin Railway Station, in anticipation of a coming visit by Collins.

   “They installed me here about three days ago,” she told 1 News’ Jessica Mutch, “and I hear Judith is coming tomorrow, I think, and I’ve had plenty of time to rehearse the lines, so, hopefully…”"

   http://www.thecivilian.co.nz/national-party-scrambles-to-remove-hundreds-of-supporters-pre-planted-over-a-week-in-advance/
3. Ad 3

   8 October 2020 at 8:09 am

   This is beginning to make up for 2014.

   I might even start enjoying it if it keeps up.
   • Antonina 3.1

     8 October 2020 at 7:16 pm

     It will take a lot to make up for 2014!!
4. mac1 4

   8 October 2020 at 8:29 am

   Collins comes to our town on Friday. I suspect the local MP, who has his problems with the locals regarding him as ineffectual and lazy, is regretting her pending visit.

   On the subject of having the supporters come out, a National Party spokesperson came to town to talk to the Chamber of Commerce. If the local National members who were unconnected to any local business had not been there he'd have been pretty lonely.

   At least they know not to go to a pub two weeks before an election and risk the feedback from going round the tables meeting and greeting. Instead they sat at a safe table, like Judith did with her candidates Lee and Mellow in Ponsonby.

   National- being seen but not daring to meet.
5. observer 5

   8 October 2020 at 8:45 am

   It couldn't have happened to a nicer pair – Judith and Hamish deserve each other.

   PS Benedict Collins, not Arnold. Though some angry Nats might think he's a traitor …
6. mosa 6

   8 October 2020 at 9:04 am

   I am surprised she hasn't dragged that shyster Key along on her meet the grateful public walkabouts.
   • Wensleydale 6.1

     8 October 2020 at 9:27 am

     Key probably values too much the tattered vestiges of his reputation to risk utter ruination at the hands of a Collins 'walkabout'.
     • Chris 6.1.1

       8 October 2020 at 12:13 pm

       Yes, key wouldn't darken collins' door.
7. Patricia Bremner 7

   8 October 2020 at 9:26 am

   It is rather a case of "Where is the Public when you need them?"

   Condescension is not attractive, with her scoffing and grating laugh very offensive.

   Her looking glass told her she was charming, and she believed her own PR, so it must be galling for her to realise we don't buy her makeover.

   Poor wee thing. I am enjoying this.
8. Enough is Enough 8

   8 October 2020 at 9:33 am

   CB poll out tonight isn't there?

   It will be very interesting as the only regular poll over the campaign.

   Has Judith done enough to bring any voters back to National and deny Labour an historic majority.

   I am picking L47, Green 5, National 32, Act 8, Maori 2, NZ1 2, Ncon 2.
   • Dennis Frank 8.1

     8 October 2020 at 10:20 am

     Seems reasonable. I'll take a punt on Lab 48, Nat 33, Greens 7, Act 5, MP 2, NZF 2, ANZ 1.5, NC 1.5. I'm factoring in Judith's dog whistle as getting a few strays back in behind…
   • Chris 8.2

     8 October 2020 at 12:17 pm

     Collins' recent gaffs like the public prays and policy on the hoof / leaking / disunity fiasco will make this poll particularly interesting. If those things don't bring support down close to where English was in 2002 little else will.
     • mac1 8.2.1

       8 October 2020 at 12:39 pm

       After the poll tonight, and then Judith's public meeting in a 700 seat theatre, tomorrow, we'll see. Last year at a Chamber of Commerce meeting in the same theatre Ardern got three hundred. I'm picking, like you, Chris, a 2002 scenario.
       • Chris 8.2.1.1

         8 October 2020 at 1:26 pm

         I'm hoping it'll be like 2002, but what makes collins so divisive and polarising also makes predicting the public's response to her behaviour difficult. The nats put her in there because there was nobody else while they groomed the next john key, they were polling so low they'd given up winning, it was an opportunity to finally end her champing at the bit to be PM, but importantly she also had the potential to save a few jobs by bringing support up to or above 30%. It's the latter we're all hoping she fails to do, of course, although if she'd played her cards right she may've managed to pull it off. The public prayers in particular, I think, may have put a lot of people off. Tonight could be a litmus test. Here's hoping.
       • mac1 8.2.1.2

         9 October 2020 at 1:25 pm

         Report from the meeting in Blenheim. Collins spoke in the smaller side theatre to about 180 people including four NZLP members. Mostly an older audience attending, Collins, ironically standing in front of her poster with "Strong Tea Moro Bars Better Scones" on it, criticised the government for speaking in slogans.

         A stalwart Nat in front of me told me he saw the election as a foregone conclusion…….. and that he saw that Labour could govern alone and didn't want the Greens involved.
     • woodart 8.2.2

       8 October 2020 at 4:40 pm

       there were more parliamentary lifeboats for defecting natz to swim to in 2002. now, there is only one that is going to be in welly next term. natz who actually care about others would rather go down on the good shit,er ,ship national ,than climb onto tinydancers dingy, and be surrounded with gun nuts and worse.?
9. Muttonbird 9

   8 October 2020 at 10:05 am

   Labour should just quietly announce JA will be with Helen White in Ponsonby on Monday lunchtime after her 2 hour Hoskings interview which she should do in studio as opposed to Collins who phoned it in on a terrible line.

   The contrast to Collins' manufactured walkabout would create memorable pictures.
10. Tricledrown 10

    8 October 2020 at 10:22 am

    The Strong team has a Strong Stench of swamp gas as trolls,Back Stabbers ,sycophantic supporters all writhing in the sewer of Dirty politics that has more leaks than a sieve.

    All Nationals past lies and cunning plots have come home to roost ,the rot has set in and looks terminal.
11. ScottGN 11

    8 October 2020 at 10:28 am

    Judith’s stand up after touring the Potemkin Village in Ponsonby

    “I’ll tell you what Tova/Susie/Jenna, there will no more of this nonsense once I become Empress of all the Russias!”.
12. Peter 12

    8 October 2020 at 10:29 am

    It was funny early this morning hearing the radio callers so upset about the state broadcaster not just highlighting Collins Ponsonby day but opining on it.

    Apparently Collins being one of the first items on state radio and TV everyday with nothing events and her mindless comments is good. Critical for us to see her, hear her.

    Being on there exhibiting mindlessness when they don't like it is bad. I love it.
13. Byd0nz 13

    8 October 2020 at 10:30 am

    2 hours with Hosking, yuk, why bother. Hope she has a sick bag in her purse.
    • Kiwijoker 13.1

      8 October 2020 at 10:50 am

      Birds of a feather!
    • Wensleydale 13.2

      8 October 2020 at 11:11 am

      She'll be in her element. Hosking will nod sagely, smile agreeably, and once again expound on the countless ways the current government is a cancer upon the nation. He's an obedient minion. Collins will love it.
14. Brian Tregaskin 14

    8 October 2020 at 11:17 am

    There is a lot more to the story here –read the comments

    https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2020/10/07/come-on-auckland-central-national-voters-you-dont-want-to-have-anything-to-do-with-hamish-price-do-you/
15. ScottGN 15

    8 October 2020 at 12:38 pm

    So this morning National wheeled out Key to put in a good word for Jude. The fact they put him onto Hosking’s show on NewstalkZB, probably the most reliably pro National radio show in the country, really tells us that they’re way more worried about losing their voters than trying to pick up any off Labour.
    • Dennis Frank 15.1

      8 October 2020 at 1:51 pm

      I get a whiff of circling the wagons. Funny that Key agreed to be a wagon – after Collins wrote that stuff in her memoir about him being mean to her, which then got splashed all over the media. Must mean he retains a tribal affinity for National, I suppose. Or keen to become our US ambassador asap…
    • Chris 15.2

      8 October 2020 at 2:03 pm

      Collins had one job and one job only which was to save a few nat jobs. The outcome's still not clear but hopefully she's managed to stuff that up. too.
    • Incognito 15.3

      8 October 2020 at 2:34 pm

      JPK said this of JC:

      … she's looked confident and strong …

      https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/10/nz-election-2020-sir-john-key-showers-judith-collins-with-praise-says-she-s-campaigning-really-really-well.html

      Keeping up the appearances is all that matters because perception rules in politics. Never mind that confidence doesn’t mean competence and strong doesn’t mean capable. Faint praise 😉
      • mac1 15.3.1

        8 October 2020 at 3:22 pm

        Here's what John Key is reported in the above Incognito’s citation as saying.

        "The reality is – I think she's been campaigning really really well."

        This man believes that reality is what he thinks!

        "Cogito ergo est." (That's for In Vino.)
16. Sacha 16

    8 October 2020 at 2:19 pm

    Best short clip from the TVNZ story – note the fake interaction right at the start.

    https://twitter.com/joshwlkr/status/1313725621801947138
17. Incognito 17

    8 October 2020 at 2:20 pm

    Just one word: shambolic.
    • AB 17.1

      8 October 2020 at 2:42 pm

      With emphasis on the first syllable. It appears that Jude both receives and gives devotion of dubious veracity.
      • Incognito 17.1.1

        8 October 2020 at 2:47 pm

        Shambolic

        /ˈʃambɒlɪk/
        • greywarshark 17.1.1.1

          8 October 2020 at 3:47 pm

          Lots of bollocks – hyperbolic.
      • woodart 17.1.2

        8 October 2020 at 4:45 pm

        also known as " both sucks and blows"
18. Adrian 18

    8 October 2020 at 2:54 pm

    In yesterdays 3 way interview Mellow took credit for organising the greeters. Wants to be an MP but couldn't even get that right.
    • Incognito 18.1

      8 October 2020 at 2:59 pm

      There’s nothing wrong with inviting supporters over for a meet & greet. However, the media smelled a rat because it was more staged than The Truman Show.
19. Muttonbird 19

    8 October 2020 at 4:11 pm

    Party supporters usually identify themselves by wearing rosettes or T-shirts, or carrying signs.

    Not these ones though, they went incognito.
    • Peter 19.1

      8 October 2020 at 4:31 pm

      You mean trying not be be seen to belong to the National rabble with it being preferable pretending to be a normal citizen on the street?😊
    • woodart 19.2

      8 October 2020 at 4:47 pm

      what would you call a blue plant?
      • AB 19.2.1

        8 October 2020 at 5:47 pm

        "Algae". On a bilious day, "pond scum".
20. ken 20

    8 October 2020 at 4:42 pm

    Judith wanted to be the mean girl, and make Jacinda cry.

    Now it's Judy's turn to cry.
21. ScottGN 21

    8 October 2020 at 5:28 pm

    How could it possibly not occur to any of Collins’s media people that cancelling a media visit to a supporter at the last minute and not letting them know might generate a few unhelpful headlines?
    • Andre 21.1

      8 October 2020 at 5:44 pm

      Totes worth it to avoid having to choke down cheese rolls and pretend to like them.
22. Red Blooded One 22

    8 October 2020 at 5:36 pm

    https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/07-10-2020/judith-collins-walks-into-a-nightmare-on-ponsonby-road/

    Well I've not heard of that particular Optometrist shop in Ponsonby before, but I know where I'm going for my long overdue eye test next time I make the 5 hour drive to Auckland.
23. Ffloyd 23

    8 October 2020 at 8:04 pm

    John Key. .. Yesterdays Man….. man.
24. froggleblocks 24

    8 October 2020 at 9:22 pm

    “a nasty, offensive and divisive self important fool of a man that should be avoided at all costs by any candidate.”

    Wouldn't that also sum up Simon Lusk pretty well?

    So why are you taking Simon's appraisal of Hamish as if it has any merit or value whatsoever?
    • PsyclingLeft.Always 24.1

      9 October 2020 at 1:13 pm

      Well…could be it takes a slime (Lusk) to know another slime (Price) ?

      https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/19-10-2018/i-am-just-motivated-to-cut-throats-meet-jami-lee-rosss-political-mastermind/

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