Will National think of the children?

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1. BernyD 1

   4 September 2012 at 3:29 pm

   They are using those children as a bludgeon against their parents at the moment.
   Can’t have them fed and happy just yet, sorry , toodle pip.
2. Roy 2

   4 September 2012 at 3:34 pm

   Children don’t vote, so to the Tories, they don’t count.
   • mike e 2.1

     4 September 2012 at 4:40 pm

     National are a bunch of bean brained bean counters who can only think short term 3 monthly reporting like in the share market 1 yearly like farming small business and 3 yearly election cycle.
     Our children are our future so lack of investment with an aging population is going to lead to our next generations being stuck in poverty not paying much tax costing us money rather than increasing money fow in the economy.
     Which means our older population will have to make up the shortfall as well.
     Dumb and Dumber
     Rednecks ranting and dog whistling only incresaes the short sightedness of Nactionaluf supporters compounding the $6 to now $8 billion drag on the economy!
3. Carol 3

   4 September 2012 at 3:35 pm

   You know National will do their Orwellian thing, and continue to claim their anti-beneficiary policies are there for the children – probably something like encouraging parents to get to work is good for the children.

   Meanwhile,

   Banks will continue to claim that his Charter schools will help children that are failing and continue to accuse the left of blaming our education (20%) fail rate on poverty.
   • BernyD 3.1

     4 September 2012 at 3:37 pm

     Exactly, and they engineered the whole thing to take down the Teachers Union.
   • mike e 3.2

     4 September 2012 at 4:47 pm

     Carol the 1in 4 children now 1in5 children the right whinger mantra is an out and out lie their are less than 14% of children failing at school.
     Nactuf are using out of date data to push out of date policy.
     The 14% figure is a 2010 stat that now maybe less than 10% with the rate of change that labours 2003 policy targeting this poor performance has achieved.
     National have stuffed up education and NZeds future again!
     Demoralizing the worlds best teachers to push a failed policy.
4. vto 4

   4 September 2012 at 3:43 pm

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5. vto 5

   4 September 2012 at 3:47 pm

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   Will National thnk of the children?

   National think of the stock exchange, the NZX.
   National think of the finance company investors needs.
   National think of the dairy farmers needs.
   National think of Mediawork funding requirements.
   National think of tax cuts for the high income earners.
   National think of raising GST.
   National think of taking ownership of electricity companies out of everyone’s hands and into the wealthy’s hands.

   National do not think of children and the proof is in their actions. Despicable.
   • Colonial Viper 5.1

     4 September 2012 at 3:57 pm

     National do not think of children and the proof is in their actions.

     Well, I think you are being too unkind: private schools did get an extra $30M.
     • Clashman 5.1.1

       4 September 2012 at 4:25 pm

       To help the rich parents of those children avoid an increase in fees.
     • mike e 5.1.2

       4 September 2012 at 4:52 pm

       Plus hand outs to Destiny rescuing a private school in the northisland $3.5 million.
       While state schools have had their funding cut by stealth.
6. Olwyn 6

   4 September 2012 at 4:15 pm

   This is the paragraph of Tapu Misa’s that caught my eye;

   “Has the child poverty focus backfired on children? In acknowledging that children bear the brunt of poverty, and in talking about child poverty rather than family poverty, have we removed children from the context of their poverty, which is first and foremost their families, and encouraged the mindset that only children deserve help? Have we set up parents to take the fall for being poor?”

   If National does turn its attention to child poverty, it might well involve punishing the parents to save their children. This could mean extending the restricted card method of paying benefits, or even greater nasties; removing children and putting them with “nice” families, who could do with a little state help with their mortgages, for example.

   It is yet another area where the left leaves the door open to right wing appropriation. “We have to talk about child poverty,” goes the thought, “because talking about poverty qua poverty is too risky.” However, children are poor because their parents are poor, and categorising child poverty as something separate from their parents’ poverty has sinister connotations. When that shill of the right John Armstrong took up child poverty it rang alarm bells for me.
   • Colonial Viper 6.1

     4 September 2012 at 4:21 pm

     Lefties are hopeless at framing. Especially when they are Lefties not willing to confront the real issues – parents without jobs, parents with jobs which pay too little, parents without access to the support and advice that they need, parents who too often themselves grew up in bad environments.
7. muzza 7

   4 September 2012 at 4:53 pm

   Until such time as serious conversation around the availability of funds, which play off society against eachother have been adressed, then there is little possibility of addressing poverty of any kind!

   The same old situation applies, that its health, versus education, or grannys hip versus teacher funding and so it goes on. Funding, or more accurately the borrowing which pays for our services and infrastructure, is used as the core factor of turning people against eachother.

   Until we are talking openly about why NZ is borrowing in the first place, then topics such as poverty will never be viable, let alone solveable.

   The core issue of most any topic you can name which affects our communities, our cities and out country, is tied to a monetary value, which is tied to borrowing. We break this open, and we will then clear the path to discuss our country’s road to recovery!

   Who will take up the challenge…
8. Draco T Bastard 8

   4 September 2012 at 5:47 pm

   There are not enough jobs because the economy remains stalled in recession mode.

   No, there are not enough jobs because that would require the capitalists to pay people and thus eat into the profit.
   • Roy 8.1

     5 September 2012 at 11:14 am

     What Draco said.
9. Dr Terry 9

   4 September 2012 at 6:57 pm

   Key and his lot suffer themselves from “poverty” – poverty of conscience and of compassion in all extremity. Is such becoming more and more noticeable in politicians of every brand?

   Meanwhile Key has given away yet more of this nation’s self-respect as he subordinates it to American might and colonization.
10. AC 10

    4 September 2012 at 8:14 pm

    National doesn’t give a stuff about children. It just wants cheap labour. Have kids looking for work instead of going to school will bring down expenditure. Like a scene from or the poorest part of India. Heaps homeless children begging in the streets being passed by the occasional Rolls-Royce.
11. xtasy 11

    4 September 2012 at 10:39 pm

    Well, I am waiting for Paula Bennett to pull another bad example rabbit out of the hat, rather than her and National “thinking” too much about the growing number of poor kids.

    She will come with another extreme abuse case, giving her the chance to blame the lot of kids primarily on their oh so bad parents, who drink, drug, gamble, cook up P in their homes and hence not look after their children.

    Is that not the constant broken record tune coming from National?

    Also are parents and their kids constantly going through supposed income cycles, one moment falling into a poverty survey category, then the next day earning real money from real jobs?

    And for the ‘Granny Herald’, I am still waiting on some stories that I suggested their journalists should perhaps rather be writing than celebrity and “lifestyle” topics they cover too much of. Susan St John does not work for the Herald, and Tapu disclosed herself, that she is rather a kind of “self employed” column writer. That leaves Armstrong, who writes incoherent stories most the times, mostly being very reserved with any criticism of the present government.

    So for that sake I can only agree with ‘vto’.
    • xtasy 11.1

      5 September 2012 at 9:22 pm

      SHE – PAULA- DELIVERED, like on command today, starting another witch-hunt against wanted crims that may be on benefits and not get tracked down yet!

      She never disappoints me, this woman, I can absolutely rely on her. Soon she will rely on me and others too, for her appalling treatment of beneficiaries, witch hund and actual breaches of law, the show down is coming!
12. Draco T Bastard 12

    5 September 2012 at 2:13 pm

    Gareth Morgan makes a quick comment about the benefits of a universal child benefit.

    With WFF the effective tax rates people pay on their additional income are at eye-watering levels, nearly 100% in some cases. You have to get a dramatically better job to escape these punishing claw back provisions and that’s unrealistic for most people. So they don’t bother. They are stuck, unable to boost their income a little by their own efforts. No that is “dopey”.

    A universal payment avoids all this, delivering help to parents but not trapping them further.
    • xtasy 12.1

      5 September 2012 at 9:25 pm

      Draco – Gareth has at times some good and smart ideas, so do other economists, but the problem is, we are locked into this “global scenario”, so it limits very, very much, what any people and country can do within, as it will often lead to a high price to pay otherwise.

      There must be a new “international” on economic, social and environmental policies, that is the only solution to the world’s economic and other problems. Division and competition at the lowest ever denominator is destructive and solves NADA!
13. captain hook 13

    5 September 2012 at 2:14 pm

    the only children the nats care about are their own.
    • BernyD 13.1

      6 September 2012 at 5:34 pm

      They’d be happy to send them off to Borstel as well, it would only take them speaking out of turn
14. Fortran 14

    5 September 2012 at 2:17 pm

    Sadly Tapu Musa says the same thing every weekly edition.
    All she does is re write and express the same thing.
    She finds nothing new – and has become boring really.
    Her ideas were good, but she is stale now.

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