Will the Republicans have the courage of their gun convictions?

Written By: - Date published: 10:20 am, March 29th, 2016 - 20 comments
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The Republican National Convention is in Ohio this July. Ohio has an “open carry” law, guns can be carried in public. The particular venue, the Quicken Loans Arena, does not allow guns. Change.org has the following petition

RECOGNIZE OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO OPEN CARRY FIREARMS AT THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL CONVENTION AT THE QUICKEN LOANS ARENA IN JULY 2016

SUMMARY: In July of 2016, the GOP will host its convention at the Quicken Loans Arena in Cleveland, Ohio. Though Ohio is an open carry state, which allows for the open carry of guns, the hosting venue—the Quicken Loans Arena—strictly forbids the carry of firearms on their premises.

This is a direct affront to the Second Amendment and puts all attendees at risk. As the National Rifle Association has made clear, “gun-free zones” such as the Quicken Loans Arena are “the worst and most dangerous of all lies.” The NRA, our leading defender of gun rights, has also correctly pointed out that “gun free zones… tell every insane killer in America… (the) safest place to inflict maximum mayhem with minimum risk.” (March 4, 2016 and Dec. 21, 2012)

All three remaining Republican candidates have spoken out on the issue and are unified in their opposition to Barack HUSSEIN Obama’s “gun-free zones.”Donald Trump said “I will get rid of gun-free zones on schools—you have—and on military bases on my first day. It gets signed my first day…you know what a gun-free zone is to a sicko? That’s bait.” (Jan. 8. 2016)

Ted Cruz has accurately pointed out “shooting after shooting after shooting happens in so called gun-free zones.” He continued, “look, if you’re a lunatic ain’t nothing better then having a bunch of targets you know that are going to be unarmed.” (Dec. 4, 2015)

And Ohio Governor John Kasich has been a leader in this movement to eliminate deadly “gun-free zones” starting with his brave decision to fight the Democrats and end “gun-free zones” at National Guard facilities in Ohio. (Dec. 18, 2015)

We must take a stand. We cannot allow the national nominating convention of the party of Lincoln and Reagan to be hijacked by weakness and political correctness. The policies of the Quicken Loans Arena do not supersede the rights given to us by our Creator in the U.S. Constitution.

Will the Republicans have the courage of their convictions and arrange for open carry at the Convention? If not, why not?

Armed, angry, violent Trump vs. Cruz supporters – what could possibly go wrong?

It shouldn’t need saying but – these are rhetorical questions, hopefully sanity will prevail and the guns will stay at home. The problem of how to explain this to their base is left as an exercise for the Republicans.

– Expat

20 comments on “Will the Republicans have the courage of their gun convictions?”

  1. Andre 1

    The tyrannical evil overlord government has once again stripped the beaten-down populace of their God-given Second Amendment right to personally carry around an arsenal suitable for the defence of a small island nation wherever they choose.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/republican-convention-guns-petition_us_56f70018e4b014d3fe234d28

  2. Macro 2

    Can they bring their tanks, flamethrowers, grenades, cannon, and machine guns as well?
    This is a God given right.
    The shouting of “Yee! Haw!” and the random discharging of all weapons on the successful nomination of Trump will be a sight to be seen – from a long way off!
    The presentation of the Darwin Award of the year will follow immediately after the Convention.

  3. red-blooded 3

    According to a commentator on RNZ, this petition started as a joke, mocking the extreme pro-gun hysteria in the Republican Party, but then candidates and supporters signed up in all seriousness and started protesting their constitutional right to wave deathly weapons around just because they want to. They couldn’t see the satire. Are we surprised..?

  4. Lanthanide 4

    Hahahahahahahahahahahaha.

  5. Nick 5

    A friend who works in the US thinks Trump will be shot by some lunatic…..I thought its possible, but never thought it might be by accident at the Repub convention…..

    • Stuart Munro 5.1

      I think Trump is in more danger of being shot by someone relatively sane – Trump has the lunatic vote sewn up.

  6. Visubversa 6

    Yes, by all means – arm the Republican delegates to the teeth. Then when some Bubba drops his gun and it goes off, they can all shoot each other in panic. The last man standing (with his gun in his hand) can then be shot by the cops when they arrive. You could raise the average IQ of the Republican Party by several points that way.

    • Anne 6.1

      That scenario would make a good John Oliver sketch. The only trouble is: Poe’s law might intervene and 1/3 of the nation will think it’s for real.

  7. One Anonymous Bloke 7

    The policies of the Quicken Loans Arena do not supersede the rights given to us by our Creator in the U.S. Constitution.

    Hyperationalist is taking the piss. I expect quite a few of the petition’s signatories don’t exactly harbour goodwill towards Republicans either.

    • Macro 7.1

      Of course he/she is taking the piss – and at the same time pointing out the absurdity of the present fetish in the US by the maniacal right for the wearing of guns, and their desire for “open carry” into all public places.
      The second amendment has long lost its meaning and value. There is no longer a threat of invasion by Britain on a then relatively small nation struggling to establish itself without a large standing army and the need for its citizens to have weapons to defend themselves against an invading army. The US should have scrapped the bloody thing once it had passed its use by date. More fool them.

      • Richard McGrath 7.1.1

        Good lord, there are still some people that believe the second amendment was intended to allow the populace to arm themselves against foreign invaders.

        It was included as a means of allowing the population to protect themselves against the government, should it become tyrannical.

        • joe90 7.1.1.1

          should it become tyrannical.

          Perhaps…

          What does the hidden history mean with respect to how the Second Amendment should be interpreted? I do not in this Article take any position with respect to “original intent.” Nevertheless, two items of significance ought to be mentioned. First, the Second Amendment was written to assure the South that the militia — the very same militia described in the main body of the Constitution — could be armed even if Congress elected not to arm them or otherwise attempted to “disarm” them. From our perspective today, this may seem like a small matter since Congress retained exclusive authority to determine the composition of the militia, and, thus, who could enjoy the right to bear arms. However, in the context of the concern and circumstances of the time, it was significant. The Amendment deals with keeping and bearing arms in the militia, subject to federal and state regulation. Therefore, to the extent original intent matters, the hidden history of the Second Amendment strongly supports the collective rights position.

          Second, the Second Amendment lives two lives: one in the law and the other in politics, public policy, and popular culture. The hidden history has ramifications in the second realm as well. The Second Amendment takes on an entirely different complexion when instead of being symbolized by a musket in the hands of the minuteman, it is associated with a musket in the hands of the slave holder.

          https://web.archive.org/web/20000816064706/http://www.saf.org/LawReviews/Bogus2.htm

        • Macro 7.1.1.2

          What ever! The fact is it has long outlived its original purpose and should have been sent to the dustbin years ago.

          • Richard McGrath 7.1.1.2.1

            Problem is, dictators have a history of confiscating firearms once they seize power, in order to prevent uprisings.

            • Macro 7.1.1.2.1.1

              🙄
              I know the USA is a society that lives in fear. But really!
              Talk about conspiracy theories.
              Dictators would not live long in the states – even moderates have trouble surviving.
              incidentally your interpretation has been disputed
              the 2nd amendment as it was finally written and endorsed reads
              “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”
              Which would seem to indicate that the intention was what I mooted first. Yes the amendment is to enshrine a right from British law which went back further with despotic monarchs – and we can see how well that went for them in the end. But the actual requirements for the amendment have long since past, and it now needs to be undone and private weapons limited to sporting and collectors use only

  8. Andre 8

    Kind of a shame this was done on Change.org instead of We The People. If they get to 100 000 on We The People, the White House has to respond. Surely Obama could have some fun with it.

  9. UncookedSelachimorpha 9

    Just signed it myself, enough support might put the GOP in an awkward position! The comments on the site are hilarious – about 50% of signatories are taking the piss – people from all over the world, trying to get maximum guns at the GOP convention.

    A few of the comments:

    “Let’s make the 2016 RNC Convention the safest convention in history!” (South Carolina)

    “I’m signing because Republican-backed legislation allowing open-carry and restriction-free concealed is supposed to protect my freedom and make me safer, isn’t it?” (Las Vegas)

    “If there is an attack on the arena, the more bullets flying, the safer the attendees will be.” (California)

    “What could go wrong?” (Canada)

    “GREAT IDEA!” (Italy)

    “If the RNC & NRA want guns in schools & hospitals, why not at the convention? I’m all for it, unless you’re a bunch of lying hypocrites.” (Chicago)

    “I live a long way from the Convention” (Australia)

    “The only way to keep our Republican heroes safe is to surround then with gun-totin’ good guys, just like Jesus told us in the Constitution” (Canada)

    ….It’s worth a chuckle!!

  10. millsy 10

    Ironically, in the GOP’s favourite era, the Wild West, there were strict restrictions on guns.

  11. Wainwright 11

    It’s not the GOP’s decision, it’s the Secret Service.

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  • Implausible ignorance
    Labour Party president Nigel Haworth resigned yesterday over the party's sexual assault scandal. But while that's good news, its unlikely to take away the stench of a coverup. Because according to Paula Bennett in Parliament yesterday, pretty much everyone in the Prime Minister's office was involved as well:I have been ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Labour’s Fatal Flaw.
     Two-Faced? Labour insiders' commitment to the neoliberal status quo puts them at odds with their party’s membership; its trade union affiliates; and a majority of Labour voters, but this only serves to strengthen the perception they have of themselves as a special elite. Among the lesser breeds, they’ll talk up a ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Ten reasons the Tories do NOT want an election
    There has been a lot of talk about Boris Johnson wanting an election, and he has blustered with great gusto about 'chicken' Jeremy Corbyn refusing one, but I think there are many reasons why he is secretly glad he has been refused the opportunity:The Tories are an utter rabble,tearing themselves ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Prorogation Illegal, rule Scottish judges
    Scottish appeal court judges have declared that Boris Johnson’s decision to suspend parliament in the run-up to the October Brexit deadline is unlawful. The three judges, chaired by Lord Carloway, Scotland’s most senior judge, overturned an earlier ruling that the courts did not have the powers to interfere in the prime ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Let me explain what I meant by Everyday New Zealanders
    By Simon Bridges. The following is a press release from the office of Simon Bridges, leader of The National Party. Key ora, New Zealand. Happy Maori Language Week. Look, I’m writing to you today because I want to clear something up. There’s been a lot of kerfuffle around some things ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Yes, the SIS is subject to the Public Records Act
    I understand there's some stuff going round about how the SIS "was removed from the list of public offices covered by the Public Records Act in 2017". The context of course being their records derived from US torture, which will be disposed of or sealed. The good news is that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • An evidence-based discussion of the Canadian fluoride/IQ study
    Dr. Christopher Labos and Jonathan Jarry discuss the recent Canadian fluoride/IQ research. They provide an expert analysis of the paper and its problems. Click on image to go to podcast. The critical debate about the recent ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Climate Change: Australia in denial
    Australia is burning down again, and meanwhile its natural disaster minister is denying climate change:Australia’s minister responsible for drought and natural disasters, David Littleproud, has said that he doesn’t “know if climate change is manmade”. Clarifying earlier comments that the question is “irrelevant” when considering the Coalition government’s response to ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Philippines activist speaking on the Duterte tyranny
    Auckland Philippines Solidarity is excited to host Professor Judy Taguiwalo for a speaking tour of NZ in September. She is a well-known activist in the Philippines and was a political prisoner under the Marcos dictatorship. Professor Taguiwalo briefly served as a Cabinet member under President Duterte but was forced from ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • Disgust
    I have no special insights to offer on the Labour sexual assault coverup. All I have is disgust. Disgust that an organisation could fail its people so badly. Disgust that they punished the victims rather than the perpetrator. Disgust that its party hacks are apparently blaming the victims for demanding ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Speak Up for Women calls out Greens’ censorship
    This open letter to the Green Party was penned after an opinion piece by Jill Abigail, a feminist and founding member of the party, was censored by the Greens’ leadership. (Redline has reprinted her article here).The intolerance of the Green Party leaders and their acceptance of the misogyny of gender ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • Member’s Day: End of Life Choice, part 3
    Today is a Member's day, and David Seymour's End of Life Choice Bill continues its slow crawl through its committee stage. They're spending the whole day on it today, though the first hour is likely to be spent on voting left over from last time. After that they'll move on ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Flight to Los Angeles turned back after passengers decide they don’t want to go anymore
    An ambitious plan to fly to Los Angeles petered out into a brief sight-seeing trip and a desire to return home and get some sleep before work tomorrow. Air New Zealand has confirmed a flight to Los Angeles last night was turned back about a quarter of the way into ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Indigenous Futures: defuturing and futuring – an analytical framework for policy development?
    There appears to be consensus – by omission – that the concept of indigenous futures should be accepted at face value. So I scavenged the internet to see if I could locate an academic descriptor or a framework around how we think about it as a concept, and whether it ...
    EllipsisterBy Ellipsister
    2 weeks ago
  • Cadbury rumoured to be releasing the Pineapple Trump
    Here’s another novelty chocolate to shove in your gob, New Zealand Cadbury could be seeking to make itself great again with a rumoured new release: Pineapple Trumps, a spin on its classic chocolate-encased pineapple treat and do-it-yourself tooth remover. The global confectionery manufacturer and bumbling “before” character in an infomercial, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • The coming resource war.
    During my time in the Pentagon I had the privilege of sitting down with military leaders and defence and security officials from a variety of Latin American nations. Sometimes I was present as a subordinate assistant to a senior US defence department official, sometimes as part of a delegation that ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    2 weeks ago

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