Labour recycling Ministers, says National
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Oh c’mon they’ve got fresh faces too I mean look at… um, Key. Yeah he’s new and then there’s um Bob Clarkson and David Bennet and… um… Johnathon Coleman and Judith Collins. Oh no hold on they’re all crazy aren’t they. Jesus the Nats really are starved of talent when you look at it. I guess you could say that this tired old lot didn’t do such a bad job last time around did they? No actually, what am I thinking, they did, didn’t they? They did a really really bad job of it. Remind me, why the hell does anybody want them back?
“This is further exemplified by the fact that Annette King now holds Police and Justice at the same time. That has not happened since at least 1975 – if ever
What does Power mean by this? I mean either it happened in 1975 or it didn’t – is he just too lazy to find out? I’m astounded that he’d put something like this in a media release – it’s as if he’s saying “I’ve got a research unit at my disposal but I still can’t be bothered trying to get my facts right for the public or even trying to cover my disregard up”. What a tosser.
“There’s poison running through these veins… Your poison”
Wait a minute!
Are you saying that nearly all of National’s front bench are from the National Government that saw:
wages down,
unemployment up,
infrastructure investment down,
higher crime
lower superannuation payments
booming student loans
and eventually collapsed when Winston Peters wouldn’t let them sell off Wellington Airport?
but, but these guys are the same guys now asking us to trust them to deliver higher wages, lower crime etc, eh?
I’m so confused
Don’t forget the safe pair of hands that is Tau Henare. Seems they actually were that desperate for brown faces.
Hmm top eight eh, lets see
Helen Clark – elected 1981, PM since 1999
Michael Cullen – elected 1981
Jim Anderton – elected 1984
Phil Goff – elected 1981
Annette King – elected 1984
Pete Hodgson – elected 1990
Parekura Horomia – elected 1999
Chris Carter – elected 1993 (but dumped from 96-99)
I make that a combined 160 years in parliament.
So, what exactly is your point there Tiny?
You know, I look at those eight guys, and putting ideology aside for a moment, I ask: which of them would you want as the public face of your party? OK, Bill English is clearly competent, no question … but who else? At least four of them (Henare, Mapp, McCully, Williamson) shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near the media, ever. And I’m being kind, stopping at four.
My point is that National’s line that Labour is ‘tired’ and stacked with ‘recycled ministers’ is hypocritical when you look at their own team, which is full of recycled faces from the 1990s.
Do I have to explain everything to you Santa?
And um Paula Bennett – no, she’s mad as well isn’t she… wait wait, there’s that one from Play School – old what’s her name… Jacquie Dean oh no she fell for that stupid water-ban gag didn’t she? Um, well what about…
Tane – and Labour’s is full of recycled faces from the 80’s – how is that an improvement? Next you’ll be trotting out the line that Labour is better because it is more experienced!
Thre’s also the point that while the Labour front bench can point to 8 years of
solid growth,
record wages
record low unemployment,
lower crime,
interest-free loans,
improving health and education metrics,
four weeks annual leave
parental Leave
20Free
Working for Families
the Cullen Fund
Kiwisaver etc etc
and all national can offer is the same old faces from the 1990s, who want you to give power back to them and trust them not to make a mess of it like last time
No, I’m not commenting on Labour at all. They’ve got a range of faces from the 80s through the 90s and the 2000s. As Clark points out, “half the ministers in today’s line up were not in cabinet after the 1999 election and almost half were not in the post 2002 one either.”
But that’s beside the point. I’m simply saying it’s rather rich for National to pretend it’s all shiny and new when as soon as you look beyond the shiny new face of John Key you find it’s the same old National Party of the 1990s, with the addition of Tau Henare as their token brown.
Do I have to keep explaining everything to you Santa?
And what about that “heaven help us” at the end of the release.
Dog-whistle for the EB?
…and then there’s that one from Timaru um, Jo , that’s right, Jo Goodhew no, I’m not sure I even know what she looks like, well what about that other one the all black or son of an all black or whatever he was – he’s still going well… what’s that? He’s in deep with the EB? Well that’s not so bad I mean so’s John but I guess that’s not the point…
gosh what a bunch of dynamic go-getters the National front bench are.
so white, so male, so middle-aged.
Gee Tiny, I must have missed the press release where National claimed its shadow team was shiny and new. Can you point it out?
Here a couple of starter links for your research
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA0710/S00585.htm
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA0710/S00592.htm
Its easy for Clark to point to favourable stats when there are 26 in the executive – I’m waiting for Sambo to come along and claim that it is the median term length that should be highlighted.
The reality is that the faces of the govenment such as Clark, Cullen, Goff, and King were ministers in the 80’s, while Anderton was Labour party president in the 80s. I mean, really, who knows what Rick Barker, Mita Ririnui, or Mahara Okeroa really do.
Lets face it, Labour has the tired faces out there in politics right now. No amount of Labour or union spin can change that.
Better watch out Spout, Tau might pull your tie for that one.
Robespierre – your party got rid of Field just in time eh?
Tane: Your post doesn’t explain the whole story. Get it straight will you. What about…
– Hon Georgina Te Heuheu (Former Minister for Courts)
– Hon Clem Simich (the unforgettable Minister of Police)
– Hon David Carter (National’s last Associate Minister for Food Fibre)
– John ‘Hone’ Carter (Former whip in the 90s)
John Key’s a fucking hypocrite called Labour Ministers recycled. Especially considering he’s just a recycled version of the woman who recruited him to the National Party – Jenny Shipley.
santy, everyone knows Tau is a potato, beige on the outside but white through and through.
Hey Susan, dearie
How about this list:
Ruth Dyson
Harry Duynhoven
Lianne Dalziel
David Parker
Or maybe this one?
Dover Samuels
Marian Hobbs
John Tamihere
David Benson-Pope (x2)
Taito Phillip Field
…and Clem (nah he’s old isn’t he) and Chester and Pansy (I quite like her) and Georgina whoops she’s still on the party shit-list for being brown isn’t she (oh and it was so funny when Gerry was Maori spokesman wasn’t it? and there’s…
Oh and Claws – they’re not my party. I love it when you do the whole straw man thing, it’s just so clever. Fuck off.
My biatch Zoster said the same thing
http://kiwiblogblog.wordpress.com/2007/10/31/views-on-the-reshuffle/
Zos is arguing, and I agree, that this reshuffle really puts the heat on National’s underperforming hasbeens. The only fresh face in its top pecking order, Simon Power, is going to get pasted by Goff. The government is supposed to be on the defensive and the Opposition on the attack, but I see a shift. I think this Opposition is going to be pushed into a defensive position.
Robespierre – try to have an original though at least once a day eh?
Spout – Better than brown on the outside and hopeless through and through like the current minister.
What like you?? Get real santa and/or fuck off.
Shit. I think Maurice Williamson’s photo-self just hypnotised me.
Mate, whose side are you on? Showing that stellar fresh lineup is going to persuade everyone to vote National!
Jordan – don’t be deceived by the youth, energy, intellect and diversity. Beneath the facade they are eeevil – eeeevilll! (Where’s Buffy when you really need her…)